[kj] OT: Question for the Righties

[Karen Weil]

Boy, no kidding, Bette!
Killing joke doesn't begin to describe it. 

k.w.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bette Dillinger 
  To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 11:42 AM
  Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Question for the Righties


   "A person who is hesitant when they are speaking is usually being dishonest."
   
  Haaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!  You are hilarious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  Quite the opposite, love.  Have you ever see a dictator "hesitate" when asked a question?  A very malignant narcissist "hesitate"?  No, because they have a "perfect" (to them) rehearsed dogmatic script in their mind.  Read the "Culture of Narcissism" by Lasch and then get back to me.
  I bet ya the gal of the week, Ms Palin, never hesitates......Drill baby Drill!
   
  What a killing joke.   
   
  Bette D.




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  From: fluke1 at live.co.uk
  To: gathering at misera.net
  Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:15:47 +0000
  Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Question for the Righties

  "Personally, when someone answers a impromptu, serious question smoothly and quickly I don't hear an honest person. I hear a prepared soundbite, a used car salesman. A person more interested in talking than listening. While someone who hesitates slightly or speaks somewhat haltingly to me comes across as thoughtful and honest."
   
     A person who is hesitant when they are speaking is usually being dishonest . 
  Try it for yourself : Describe your today today in detail . Describe in as much detail as possible what you have done since your alarm went off this morning (Do it in your head) . 
     O.K. Now do the same thing , but this time make a pack of lies up . Begin your explanation with : "I didn't go to bed last night because I fell asleep on the train on the way home............" , now finish that off, making things up as you go along . 
     You will find that in the second scenario, you will begin to be hesitant as you explain , this is because you have to think about what you are saying .
    Obamas hesitancy was because he was being insincere 
   
   
   
   


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  Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:15:43 -0700
  From: culturevirus at yahoo.com
  To: gathering at misera.net
  Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Question for the Righties



        This is how Obama typically appears in unscripted interviews and situations where he is speaking off the cuff. The difference between Obama and Bush is that when Obama does speak it is generally in complete sentences, using proper syntax and expressing coherent thoughts. I don't think Bush is half as stupid as his detractors make him out to be, but he is among the worst extemporaneous speakers I've seen. Surpassed only by certain infamous beauty pageant contestants.

        Obama wasn't asked when a baby becomes a "living being" he was asked "at what point does a baby gets human rights, in your view" (two very different questions). His answer to Pastor Warren was flippant without a doubt. But the explanation in the Stephanopoulos interview was much better and accurately reflects the deeply troubling nature of the question and the divide that exists within the Xian church regarding the issue. There is very little in the Scriptures for Xians to go on regarding the issue and there is a divide, although most err on the side of caution. The question of when the fetus becomes "a person" or receives "the soul" is a technical and intellectual question. One with profound theological implications. One that mankind has been pondering for a long time, hence the strongly divided positions on the issue.

        Personally, when someone answers a impromptu, serious question smoothly and quickly I don't hear an honest person. I hear a prepared soundbite, a used car salesman. A person more interested in talking than listening. While someone who hesitates slightly or speaks somewhat haltingly to me comes across as thoughtful and honest. Or that they are trying to be respectful to those who will hold contrary views and that they are framing the answer in a way that shows they understand their opponents viewpoint. 

        I am culturevirus

        --- On Tue, 9/9/08, fluke fluke <fluke1 at live.co.uk> wrote:

          From: fluke fluke <fluke1 at live.co.uk>
          Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Question for the Righties
          To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
          Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 3:30 AM


          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpoAVAA1F30&feature=related
           
           
          Going by this interview , Obama seems hesitant , stuttering  and unsure of himself . He seems to have to think what he says before he says it , this is a common trait with people who aren't being honest. He is either trying to deceive the electorate because he isn't being honest , either that or he has trouble speaking coherently , either way, that makes him unfit to be President of any Country .
              He comes across as being insincere , like he is trying to sell himself,  like he is saying what the electorate want to hear .
            He initially said that the issue of when a Baby becomes a living being was above his payscale , he admitted that he didn't have an answer, then he tried to justify his ignorance by getting technical and quasi intellectual .
             People dislike George Bush because they class him as being an idiot because of the way that he comes across on screen well sorry , but Obama comes across  asn being even bigger idiot . 
            Surely the U.S. can manage to find one coherent person to lead their Country ?
           
           
           
           

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          From: vassifer at earthlink.net
          To: gathering at misera.net
          Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 19:48:58 -0400
          Subject: [kj] OT: Question for the Righties





          Serious question for the Neo-cons/McCain-supporters/Skeptics here:


          What *exactly* is so wrong with Obama? Why do you vilify him for a perceived lack of substance? How is he any less genuine than his opponents?


          Do tell. I'm all ears.


          Alex in NYC






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