[kj] [OT] More Palin

[Alexander Smith]

"I'm just amazed at all the attacks going out on Palin and it  
irritated me to
the point of feeling the need to respond. "

That you're amazed that so many people find her beyond reproach is  
something I find exasperating. LIFT YOUR HEAD FROM THE SAND, man.  
She's a giant step backwards waiting to happen.

Alex in NYC



On Sep 12, 2008, at 6:23 PM, The Exorcist wrote:


> I'm frankly not crazy about what's out there from either aisle.

>

> Nor did I vote for McCain in the primaries either.

> (Though I tend to lean right in my votes)

>

> I'm just amazed at all the attacks going out on Palin and it  

> irritated me to

> the point of feeling the need to respond.

>

> While we most definitely don't agree with views (which is how the  

> world works in general

> and I love it!), attacks ought to be applied to both sides.

>

> (It was also nice to see that Palin did not say that our mission in  

> Iraq is god's plan, but that we

> should pray that it's in his plan and that we are doing the right  

> thing. I was very disturbed by the

> youtube clip and it now puts it more into perspective.

>

> Kennedy and other presidents have said lines similar to the ones  

> Palin had said.

>

> JFK----

>

> "And yet the same revolutionary beliefs for which our forebears  

> fought are still at issue around the globe--

> the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of  

> the state, but from the hand of God."

>

> "With a good conscience our only sure reward, with history the final  

> judge of our deeds, let us go forth to lead the

> land we love, asking His blessing and His help, but knowing that  

> here on earth God's work must truly be our own.")

>

> High taxes or low taxes? War or no War? More gov't programs or less?  

> Healthcare: private, national, bit of

> both?

>

> When the media went after Palin for not knowing about "Foreign  

> Policy" and not being ready

> I don't recall anyone doing that to Obama when the Russian-Georgian  

> spat broke out. And

> that was something like a mini surprise test where we got to see  

> both presidential candidates react.

>

> I do believe Obama has been handled with kid gloves and I base it on  

> observations like what I

> had listed in the previous post. No one on "The Gathering" said "OMG  

> Obama doesn't understand

> how the UN works or how our military chain of command works". But  

> Palin doesn't know "The Bush

> Doctrine" (which there are quite a few interpretations) and all of a  

> sudden the battle cry "She's not ready".

>

> The whole experience thing is out the window as both Obama and Palin  

> have little national experience

>  and I don't think it can be used anymore.

>

> Any questions or criteria that are thrown to/applied to one  

> candidate should be thrown at/applied to the other as well.

>

> Just like in basketball, if both teams shoot and miss, it stays 0-0,  

> not 1-0.

>

> This post has nothing to do with pro-Palin/anti-Obama (though I am  

> clearly not an Obama fan)

> it's about equal objectivity as I see it.

>

> (You'll also notice I don't start any "Pro Palin" or "Anti Obama"  

> threads. I just respond to it)

>

> Have a lovely weekend Karen,

> (It's rainy and crappy here)

> Yos

>

> At 05:26 PM 9/12/2008, Karen Weil wrote:

>> Sorry, Exorcist, but respectfully, I don't share your views.

>> And I doubt she knows how the government works any better.

>> Tell you what: Please tell me why you like (or don't) Palin. I  

>> really would like to know.

>> You're an intelligent person, so I'd welcome your thoughts.

>>

>> Best,

>>

>> Karen

>> ----- Original Message -----

>> From: The Exorcist

>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 2:12 PM

>> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] More Palin

>> Doesn't know the bush doctrine?

>> How about Obama who is running for President not knowing about

>> UN policy? Recall the "lets go to the UN and go after Russia" while  

>> forgetting

>> that Russia has Veto Power?

>> Or when Barack Obama said, "I'm going to call in the Joint Chiefs  

>> of Staff, and give them a new mission,

>> and that is to bring the war in Iraq to a close."

>> The problem is that the Joint Chief of Staff does not have  

>> operational command of the U.S. Military. So he

>> has no clue how the gov't works as well.

>>

>> Hmmmm....

>> I guess that sorta evens out the "best candidate" arguemtn ehhh?

>> At 03:53 PM 9/12/2008, Karen Weil wrote:

>>>

>>> Doesn't know the Bush Doctrine? Blamed Russia for the for the  

>>> conflict over there? Still connecting Iraq to 9/11.

>>> Somebody tell us again why McCain picked this woman -- it sure as  

>>> hell wasn't because she was the best candidate.

>>> Sad, sad, sad.

>>>

>>> k.w.

>>> ----- Original Message -----

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>>> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 11:49 AM

>>> Subject: [kj] [OT] More Palin

>>>

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>>>

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> Darwinism.

> We cannot allow the fittest to survive on our pages. Your loss is  

> someone

> else's gain, and your gain is someone else's loss. Therefore, losers  

> contribute

> to the society and winners take away from it. Being a winner is  

> unethical, while

> a society of losers is happy and striving as a collective. In the  

> spirit of diversity,

> inclusiveness, and collectivism our contests shall have no winners.

> Everyone is declared a loser, which in our book means an ethical  

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