[kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone own any unmixed demos from Pandemonium era?

[drunk wish]

Early uk promo cassettes had the original Mathematics. I don't think it
ever officially made it onto cd. We need someone with an original tape
and good gear with which to transfer it.



T.

From: npscott at blueyonder.co.uk
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:13:30 +0100
Subject: Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone own any unmixed demos	from Pandemonium era?










I wonder if anyone actually owns a full wav from the 
original source, I mean it was never released on cd anywhere was it?  
Certainly not on the Alchemy and War Dance CD collectives.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  death 
  watch 
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  band!) 
  Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 1:04 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [kj] non-album tracks 
  enquiry - Anyone own any unmixeddemos from Pandemonium era?
  
I got all excited by that torrent and then on closer inspection 
  realized the version of Mathematics... is an mp3. If anyone has a full .wav of 
  the original Mathematics, I would love that - they indeed missed a huge 
  opportunity not including the original mixes on the reissue. Maybe we'll yet 
  see some sort of "Inside Pandemonium" set.

T.


  
  From: npscott at blueyonder.co.uk
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Thu, 25 
  Sep 2008 12:51:08 +0100
Subject: Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone 
  own any unmixed demos from Pandemonium era?


  
  

  This had put me in geek mode, and I have tracked 
  down a torrent that has collectively, including Mathematics Of Chaos original 
  mix, all the Pandemonium Era Mixes.
   
  After hearing how much better the original 
  Millennium is, and knowing how much better the Pandemonium original mix is, I 
  wished they would ahve put the originals on the remaster.
   
  Strange as well how in the US on the original 
  pressing of Pandemonium Album it didnt have the Cybersank mix of Pandemonium 
  on it unlike the UK version, and the CD Single of Millennium had the original 
  Mix on it whereas we were denied it in the UK.
   
  Speaking of Cybersank, does anyone know anything 
  about the remixers?....nothing crops up on Wiki, all I know is they did 
  Pandemonium, Millennium and swedish rockers Clawfinger's "Warfair" 
  remixes.
   
  Torrent linky http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4372734/Killing_Joke_-_Pandemonium_Album_Remixes_FLAC
  
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    unmiceddemosfromPandemonium era?
    

    Neil

I'll 
    have a look if I still have it.
Welcome back by the way - see you next 
    week!



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    Hey Bob, yes, my mistake, it says Zoo on it so I have the US 
    edition then. 
Who'd have thunk it.

Now I have to find that 
    original mix of Mathematics that I have somewhere.

OK enough 
    nerdiness
N


    2008/9/25 Bob Barathy <bbarathy at btinternet.com>

    
      
      Hi Neil. Check your CD 
      again. If the CD is blue and the liner says Zoo on it anywhere then it's 
      the US  version; which featured the original Aotearoa mix on it (and 
      the UK CD did not). I've never heard of a limited UK CD with Aotearoa on 
      it but if I'm wrong please let me know!
       
      boBToo
      www.killingjoke.co.uk
      www.teamkinetic.co.uk
      www.bobtoo.co.uk
      
        
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        Behalf Of Termite
Sent: 24 September 2008 
        22:51
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        Subject: Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone own any 
        unmiceddemosfromPandemonium era?


        
        
        
        Just looking at my UK CD original of the 
        Millennium single cat no. BFLD12 and it doesnt have the Aotearoa Mix of 
        it on there?!?!
         
        1) Millennium (Cyersank Edit)
        2) Millennium (Back To Orion 
        Mix)
        3) Millennium (Cyersank Extended) * Same 
        version as on the Album
        4) Millennium (23 Minutes To Midnight 
        Mix)
        5) Millennium (Dissolving Particle Reaction 
        Mix)
         
        So does this mean that there was a limited 
        edition CD single with the Aotearoa Mix on it?
        
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          Original Message ----- 
          From: 
          Neil 
          Perry 
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          A 
          list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
          Sent: 
          Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:26 PM
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          Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone own any unmiceddemosfrom 
          Pandemonium era?
          

          Just looking at my (UK) copy of the CD single - it has 
          six versions of Millennium
on it and a version of Exorcism. The 
          first track, the 'Aotearoa Mix', is the original
version of 
          Millennium that was on the Pandemonium promos before they went
and 
          replaced it with an inferior version. Honest, 
          guv.

Neil



          2008/9/24 Termite <npscott at blueyonder.co.uk>

          
            
            Certainly in the UK nope, The 
            Millennium CD Single has the Cybersank Radio Edit and the full 
            length Cybersank mix (which also appears on the album) but even the 
            remastered album contains the full length Cybersank 
mix.
             
            Has anyone got the original from the 
            promo to kindly upload to rapidshare or anything?
            
              
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              Original Message ----- 
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              Neil 
              Perry 
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              list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
              
              
              
              Sent: 
              Wednesday, September 24, 2008 8:29 PM
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              Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone own any unmiced 
              demosfrom Pandemonium era?
              

              The 'original' version of Millennium is on the CD 
              single - is that the one
you meant? It was on the first promos 
              of Pandemonium before they
went and changed it and put the 
              cyber versions on instead.

N in N


              2008/9/24 Termite <npscott at blueyonder.co.uk>

              
                
                Thanks for that, shame isn't 
                it?  Would be really interesting hearing that tune in its 
                original mix.  Same with Millennium, although Pandamonium 
                has been released as an original version, as well as with the 
                cheese rock overstabbings of the Cybersank mix, Millennium as 
                far as I am aware has never been released without the Cybersank 
                mixes.
                 
                Anyone close to the band that has 
                obtained unmixed versions of Millennium, Four Stations Of The 
                Sun and Another Cult Goes Down?
                
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                  Original Message ----- 
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                  Javier Garcia 
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                  Killing Joke (the band!) 
                  Sent: 
                  Wednesday, September 24, 2008 4:36 PM
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                  Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry
                  
As far as i remember and as weird as it may 
                  sound there's no other version than that "Portobello mix", 
                  it's on the Pandemonium remaster and i have it on the Exorcism 
                  single on vinyl too. 

Javier 
mexcity 
                  








                  
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I 
                    don't think it appears on the Pandemonium single, certainly 
                    not in the UK, only on the Exorcism 10" & CD, unless you 
                    mistakingly mean it also features on the Pandemonium album 
                    (remaster) . :-) 



My question, however, 
                    refers to whether anyone knows if Another Cult Goes Down has 
                    ever appeared or leaked in a none remixed format. Certainly 
                    on both the Exorcism single and Pandemonium Album remaster 
                    it is the Portobello Mix. 



If my memory 
                    serves me correctly I am sure there was a demo leak of Four 
                    Stations Of The Sun which wasn't a remix, so really I just 
                    want to know if anyone either has a leak or at least knows 
                    if Another Cult Goes Down exists out there other than in the 
                    bands archived master tapes unabridged. I would be 
                    interested hearing it as a demo. 



As it 
                    states Portobello mix by the way, does anyone know who 
                    actually was behind doing the remix, I presume Youth? It 
                    does sound very dub. 

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Another Cult Goes down also 
                    appears on the Pandemonium Single as well. 
                    









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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:15:51 +0100 
                    

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Speaking of Another Cult Goes Down 
                    (I have always loved that track), do you, or anyone else 
                    know whether it has ever been leaked anywhere as a demo or 
                    in a none remixed format??? (not the Portobello mix) 
                    

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>Another Cult Goes Down 

                    




>Four Stations of the Sun 

                    




>Drug 





>Hollywood 

                    Babylon 




>Mass 

                    





These all date from the 
                    Pandemonium/Democracy era, line up would be 
                    Jaz/Geordie/Youth and "drummer" (probably Dugmore) 
                    





ACGD was on the Exorcism EP, FSOTS 
                    was only released in a remixed form (can't remember what 
                    single it turned up with off the top of my head though), 
                    Drug turned up on the soundtrack for Mortal Combat 2, 
                    Hollywood Babylon was on the soundtrack for Showgirls and 
                    Mass the B Side to Democracy 
                    






>Cheers! 

                    





This wasn't a KJ track; it was a 
                    comedy series about a bar in Boston 
                    







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