[kj] non-album tracks enquiry ... cybersank mixes

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Termite wrote:
As much as they sound somewhat cheesily mid 90's chug rock now, I do
wonder however if Millennium & Pandemonium would have been such the hits
they became at the time without Cybersanks mixing.....

To that point, I had a friend in the '90s who I tried to get into
Killing Joke. He loved the whole Pandemonium album, liked the
performance on Jon Stewart. Then he really, *really* loved the cybersank
mix of "Pandemonium" (in the U.S. the LP had the non-cybersank mix, so
that remix was a treasure). But he thinks Every. Other. Bit. of Killing
Joke is crap.

Come to think of it, he's a bit of an a$$hole, too. Could be a
coincidence. :)

Termite wrote:

> Great info there, never realised that...must be where the mp3's leaked

> on the net have come from that source. So its only a UK promo

> cassette (not final release cassette) that contains Mathematics Of

> Chaos (Aotearoa Mix) on it?

>

> We need Youth or Greg Hunter on here to leak original mixes, or

> definitely an Inside Pandemonium release would be very interesting

> indeed. Mathematics Of Chaos other than on promo besides, Four

> Stations Of The Sun and Another Cult Goes Down have never seen any

> sort of original mix release.

>

> As much as they sound somewhat cheesily mid 90's chug rock now, I do

> wonder however if Millennium & Pandemonium would have been such the

> hits they became at the time without Cybersanks mixing.....

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> *From:* drunk wish <mailto:dwish2000 at hotmail.com>

> *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>

> *Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2008 3:28 PM

> *Subject:* Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone own any

> unmixeddemos from Pandemonium era?

>

> Early uk promo cassettes had the original Mathematics. I don't

> think it ever officially made it onto cd. We need someone with an

> original tape and good gear with which to transfer it.

>

> T.

>

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> From: npscott at blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:npscott at blueyonder.co.uk>

> To: gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>

> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:13:30 +0100

> Subject: Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone own any

> unmixed demos from Pandemonium era?

>

> I wonder if anyone actually owns a full wav from the original

> source, I mean it was never released on cd anywhere was it?

> Certainly not on the Alchemy and War Dance CD collectives.

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> *From:* death watch <mailto:dwish2000 at hotmail.com>

> *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>

> *Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2008 1:04 PM

> *Subject:* Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone own any

> unmixeddemos from Pandemonium era?

>

> I got all excited by that torrent and then on closer

> inspection realized the version of Mathematics... is an mp3.

> If anyone has a full .wav of the original Mathematics, I would

> love that - they indeed missed a huge opportunity not

> including the original mixes on the reissue. Maybe we'll yet

> see some sort of "Inside Pandemonium" set.

>

> T.

>

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> From: npscott at blueyonder.co.uk

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:51:08 +0100

> Subject: Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone own any

> unmixed demos from Pandemonium era?

>

> This had put me in geek mode, and I have tracked down a

> torrent that has collectively, including Mathematics Of Chaos

> original mix, all the Pandemonium Era Mixes.

>

> After hearing how much better the original Millennium is, and

> knowing how much better the Pandemonium original mix is, I

> wished they would ahve put the originals on the remaster.

>

> Strange as well how in the US on the original pressing of

> Pandemonium Album it didnt have the Cybersank mix of

> Pandemonium on it unlike the UK version, and the CD Single of

> Millennium had the original Mix on it whereas we were denied

> it in the UK.

>

> Speaking of Cybersank, does anyone know anything about the

> remixers?....nothing crops up on Wiki, all I know is they did

> Pandemonium, Millennium and swedish rockers Clawfinger's

> "Warfair" remixes.

>

> Torrent linky

> http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4372734/Killing_Joke_-_Pandemonium_Album_Remixes_FLAC

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> *From:* Rob's Arse <mailto:joker at Z6.com>

> *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>

> *Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2008 11:44 AM

> *Subject:* Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone

> ownany unmiceddemosfromPandemonium era?

>

> Neil

>

> I'll have a look if I still have it.

> Welcome back by the way - see you next week!

>

>

>

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> --- 65snoopy at gmail.com <mailto:65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:

>

> From: "Neil Perry" <65snoopy at gmail.com

> <mailto:65snoopy at gmail.com>>

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

> <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>

> Subject: Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone own

> any unmiceddemosfromPandemonium era?

> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:34:57 +0200

>

> Hey Bob, yes, my mistake, it says Zoo on it so I have the

> US edition then.

> Who'd have thunk it.

>

> Now I have to find that original mix of Mathematics that I

> have somewhere.

>

> OK enough nerdiness

> N

>

> 2008/9/25 Bob Barathy <bbarathy at btinternet.com

> <mailto:bbarathy at btinternet.com>>

>

> Hi Neil. Check your CD again. If the CD is blue and

> the liner says Zoo on it anywhere then it's the US

> version; which featured the original Aotearoa mix on

> it (and the UK CD did not). I've never heard of a

> limited UK CD with Aotearoa on it but if I'm wrong

> please let me know!

>

> boBToo

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> -----Original Message-----

> *From:* gathering-bounces at misera.net

> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>

> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net

> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>]*On Behalf

> Of *Termite

> *Sent:* 24 September 2008 22:51

> *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> *Subject:* Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry -

> Anyone own any unmiceddemosfromPandemonium era?

>

> Just looking at my UK CD original of the

> Millennium single cat no. BFLD12 and it doesnt

> have the Aotearoa Mix of it on there?!?!

>

> 1) Millennium (Cyersank Edit)

> 2) Millennium (Back To Orion Mix)

> 3) Millennium (Cyersank Extended) * Same version

> as on the Album

> 4) Millennium (23 Minutes To Midnight Mix)

> 5) Millennium (Dissolving Particle Reaction Mix)

>

> So does this mean that there was a limited edition

> CD single with the Aotearoa Mix on it?

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> *From:* Neil Perry <mailto:65snoopy at gmail.com>

> *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke

> (the band!) <mailto:gathering at misera.net>

> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:26 PM

> *Subject:* Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry -

> Anyone own any unmiceddemosfrom Pandemonium era?

>

> Just looking at my (UK) copy of the CD single

> - it has six versions of Millennium

> on it and a version of Exorcism. The first

> track, the 'Aotearoa Mix', is the original

> version of Millennium that was on the

> Pandemonium promos before they went

> and replaced it with an inferior version.

> Honest, guv.

>

> Neil

>

>

> 2008/9/24 Termite <npscott at blueyonder.co.uk

> <mailto:npscott at blueyonder.co.uk>>

>

> Certainly in the UK nope, The Millennium

> CD Single has the Cybersank Radio Edit and

> the full length Cybersank mix (which also

> appears on the album) but even the

> remastered album contains the full length

> Cybersank mix.

>

> Has anyone got the original from the promo

> to kindly upload to rapidshare or anything?

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> *From:* Neil Perry

> <mailto:65snoopy at gmail.com>

> *To:* A list about all things Killing

> Joke (the band!)

> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>

> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 24, 2008

> 8:29 PM

> *Subject:* Re: [kj] non-album tracks

> enquiry - Anyone own any unmiced

> demosfrom Pandemonium era?

>

> The 'original' version of Millennium

> is on the CD single - is that the one

> you meant? It was on the first promos

> of Pandemonium before they

> went and changed it and put the cyber

> versions on instead.

>

> N in N

>

> 2008/9/24 Termite

> <npscott at blueyonder.co.uk

> <mailto:npscott at blueyonder.co.uk>>

>

> Thanks for that, shame isn't it?

> Would be really interesting

> hearing that tune in its original

> mix. Same with Millennium,

> although Pandamonium has been

> released as an original version,

> as well as with the cheese rock

> overstabbings of the Cybersank

> mix, Millennium as far as I am

> aware has never been released

> without the Cybersank mixes.

>

> Anyone close to the band that has

> obtained unmixed versions of

> Millennium, Four Stations Of The

> Sun and Another Cult Goes Down?

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> *From:* Javier Garcia

> <mailto:jagargal at lycos.com>

> *To:* A list about all things

> Killing Joke (the band!)

> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>

> *Sent:* Wednesday, September

> 24, 2008 4:36 PM

> *Subject:* Re: [kj] non-album

> tracks enquiry

>

> As far as i remember and as

> weird as it may sound there's

> no other version than that

> "Portobello mix", it's on the

> Pandemonium remaster and i

> have it on the Exorcism single

> on vinyl too.

>

> Javier

> mexcity

>

>

>

>

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> *Subject : *Re: [kj]

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> *Date : *Wed, 24 Sep 2008

> 09:45:15 +0100

>

> *From : *"Terrnite"

> <npscott at blueyonder.co.uk

> <mailto:npscott at blueyonder.co.uk>>

>

> *To : *"A list about all

> things Killing Joke $the

> band!$"

> <gathering at misera.net

> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>

>

>

>

> I don't think it appears

> on the Pandemonium single,

> certainly not in the UK,

> only on the Exorcism 10" &

> CD, unless you mistakingly

> mean it also features on

> the Pandemonium album

> (remaster) . :-)

>

>

>

> My question, however,

> refers to whether anyone

> knows if Another Cult Goes

> Down has ever appeared or

> leaked in a none remixed

> format. Certainly on both

> the Exorcism single and

> Pandemonium Album remaster

> it is the Portobello Mix.

>

>

>

> If my memory serves me

> correctly I am sure there

> was a demo leak of Four

> Stations Of The Sun which

> wasn't a remix, so really

> I just want to know if

> anyone either has a leak

> or at least knows if

> Another Cult Goes Down

> exists out there other

> than in the bands archived

> master tapes unabridged. I

> would be interested

> hearing it as a demo.

>

>

>

> As it states Portobello

> mix by the way, does

> anyone know who actually

> was behind doing the

> remix, I presume Youth? It

> does sound very dub.

>

> ----- Original Message -----

>

> From: J Casavola

>

> To: A list about all

> things Killing Joke (the

> band!)

>

> Sent: Wednesday, September

> 24, 2008 3:39 AM

>

> Subject: Re: [kj]

> non-album tracks enquiry

>

>

>

>

>

> Another Cult Goes down

> also appears on the

> Pandemonium Single as well.

>

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>

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> From:

> npscott at blueyonder.co.uk

> <mailto:npscott at blueyonder.co.uk>

>

>

> To: gathering at misera.net

> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>

>

> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008

> 16:15:51 +0100

>

> Subject: Re: [kj]

> non-album tracks enquiry

>

>

>

>

>

> Speaking of Another Cult

> Goes Down (I have always

> loved that track), do you,

> or anyone else know

> whether it has ever been

> leaked anywhere as a demo

> or in a none remixed

> format??? (not the

> Portobello mix)

>

> ----- Original Message -----

>

> From: Phillipps Marc

>

> To:

> jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk

> <mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>

> ; A list about all things

> Killing Joke (the band!)

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> Sent: Tuesday, September

> 23, 2008 3:15 PM

>

> Subject: Re: [kj]

> non-album tracks enquiry

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>

>

>

>

> >Another Cult Goes Down

>

>

>

> >Four Stations of the Sun

>

>

>

> >Drug

>

>

>

> >Hollywood Babylon

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> >Mass

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>

> These all date from the

> Pandemonium/Democracy era,

> line up would be

> Jaz/Geordie/Youth and

> "drummer" (probably Dugmore)

>

>

>

>

>

> ACGD was on the Exorcism

> EP, FSOTS was only

> released in a remixed form

> (can't remember what

> single it turned up with

> off the top of my head

> though), Drug turned up on

> the soundtrack for Mortal

> Combat 2, Hollywood

> Babylon was on the

> soundtrack for Showgirls

> and Mass the B Side to

> Democracy

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> >Cheers!

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> This wasn't a KJ track; it

> was a comedy series about

> a bar in Boston

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> Marc.

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