[kj] (OT) Police Brutality part 2

[sade1]

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From: Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
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Push me and I will resist, this behaviour’s not unique
 
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Sent: Saturday, 18 April 2009 11:33
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Humans can put themselves(or better said, other humans) in a black hole where laws and/or morality won't reach, or only help one side over the other. When it's clear you're stuck and not about to be let out of that, you fight. 
Those situations are found in everyday life, not just in big global situations.

 
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On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 3:45 AM, Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
If police brutality is part of a bigger picture, then so is civilian violence.
 
I'm not inclined to consider the opinions/message of people who see no problem with committing acts of violence and destruction. Their message obviously isn't terribly important to them or they wouldn't compromise it  
 
 
 
i cant think of an example, but i'm sure there is one, of how sometimes violence/dastardly deeds may be the ONLY way to fight for your rights... the world is not a fair place, and sometimes needs must...
 
dodge the bullets or carry the gun!
 
 
 
 
 
(and the message promoted by legitimate protesters) by behaving like thugs. Basically, the moment you decide that your personal opinion gives you the right to trash and loot other people's property and indulge in casual violence, you stop having anything interesting to say or the right to say it. 
 
Most of the people at the G20 conference didn't feel obliged to throw bricks through windows or set fire to building. Anyone who can't manage that should stay at home; they're not needed.
 
Jim.

--- On Fri, 17/4/09, Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:
So let me get this right- the fact that I disagree with violence and
destructive behaviour is simply me thinking what the Establishment *wants*
me to think?

No...that's not my angle at all. I disagree that much focus should go on
the damage caused by a small percentage of rioters, I explained that I
think the big issue is their message(s).

I always though it was a part of my near-total dislike of violence and
destruction in any form. Well, now I know better. I'm just a tool of the
establishment.

I never said that.

I doubt you read that part of the message,

I did :)

but I'm also firmly against police brutality and firmly in favour of
people's right to protest. Guess that's also me just thinking what 'the
establishment' wants me to think.

I am against police brutality too...you're on about me calling you a drone
again. I didn't.

I think you should probably get to know me a little better before you
dismiss me as an establishment drone, thanks.

Shout the drinks and bring along your CV and three references, and you've
got a deal. 


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