[kj] (OT) Police Brutality part 2

[Darren A. Peace]

Oh Bette.

 

(slips on comic book guy fat suit).

 

Killer's Kiss (Frank Silvera)

Dr Strangelove (James Earl Jones)

 

At least.

 

Not leading roles, though, and although Crothers was a cook in The Shining,
he's really there as a fantastic shaggy dog. Manfully struggles across half
the continental United States to save Our Hero Danny, only to ...

 

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Hungerford, UK

 

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Bette Dillinger
Sent: 19 April 2009 01:02
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Police Brutality part 2

 

   A white woman coined the term "latent racism".  She did one of the most
famous experiments involving "latent racism" by dividing school kids based
on eye color.
   It seems some are making my point for me.  Why did Spike Lee come up?
Because he is black?  Imagery is powerful, isn't it?  
   Are there no "white" directors who are latently racist, like the director
of that piece of excrement "Monster's Ball"?  Shit, even Stanley Kubrick
cast only person of color in his entire ouvre(I know a comic book guy will
prove me wrong..lol)....the Scatman Caruthers character in "The
Shining".....where he played a cook.    
   Also, don't get me wrong, I am not saying I am above this.  Everyone has
been socialized with these images.  But you have to recognize them first, I
would say.

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From: gregslawson at msn.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 19:08:05 -0400
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Police Brutality part 2

The whole ending of Spike Lee's hit movie "Do the Right Thing" was, I think,
trying to portray latent racism (in the character played by Danny Iello, the
pizza shop owner).
 

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Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:09:46 -0700
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Police Brutality part 2

I'm not sure how Spike Lee espouses "latent racism" but latent just means
that it's present it 

just hasn't reared its ugly head yet; asymptomatic.  Like that, yeah, it's
pretty prevalent, but yeah 

it is very much a social construct, and a False one, too.


 

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From: GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com>
To: gathering <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 9:29:37 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Police Brutality part 2

I think that whole "latent racism" argument, espoused by folks such as Spike
Lee (esp. in "Do the RIght Thing") is very cynical. Racism is a SOCIAL
construct. It's not natural (that's why it doesn't exist in young children)
but is so ingrained in society that it may seem like we all have latent
racism, when in fact we're really absorbing bad ideas that exist in the
media, government, advertising, etc. Just my dos pesos.
Greg
 

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From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 03:44:48 +0100
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Police Brutality part 2

i dont,and i am certain alot of other people do not either,as for the
majority of the police,ive made my point on that clearly in an erlier post
majority of em are instinutionally racist bastards.....
 
milindafgrant
 

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From: bettedillinger at live.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 20:20:27 -0400
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Police Brutality part 2

Everyone has latent racism.
 

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From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 20:19:43 +0100
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Police Brutality part 2

i just dont want to generalise but the police are institutionally
racist,there maybe a few exceptions of those who are not, i am talking about
the majority who are racist;(
 
milindafgrant
 

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From: gregslawson at msn.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:03:15 -0400
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Police Brutality part 2

It's true that psych factors may be important, but a bigger issue is that
the whole "culture" of the police is to get away with abusing people,
covering it up, and being sworn to secrecy. There was an excellent book
about 20 years ago, called I think "The Code of Silence", by a former US
police chief, that detailed all this...
 

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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 18:40:03 +0000
From: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Police Brutality part 2


I'm sure there are psychological factors at work in determining their
personality types, just like all of us. There isn't anything that *forces*
the individual to behave in that fashion, however. There are no doubt a
wealth of psychological issues and problems that go into the make-up of a
violent policeman- some of which are genuinely worthy of sympathy- but we
all know where psychology ends and choice begins. 

 

Jim.

 

From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 02:29:01 +1000
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Police Brutality part 2

If police brutality is part of a bigger picture, then so is civilian
violence.

 

I agree but police brutality is more onerous than civilian brutality - and
judges will take this into account in their sentencing- because they are
provided enhanced powers of physical intervention (legal rights, training,
equipment, back up from thousands of other cops and civilians etc), in
return for the responsibility to defend us. Misusing that privilege to do
the opposite is especially wrong.and deserves stronger punishment (insofar
as we currently favour punishment as opposed to 'correction'). They are
letting us down more than the random idiots because they are the ones we
entrust our security to. In a lot of ways we are more vulnerable to their
misuse of power than we are to random idiots, we've got no real recourse to
resist or defend ourselves. They will just escalate the confrontation
quicker and harder than we ever can. Some of us have a chance against
randoms, no one really has a chance against the police force, right or
wrong. 

  

Ever heard a cop describe the police force as the biggest gang in the
country? I have. 

  

Most of the people at the G20 conference didn't feel obliged to throw bricks
through windows or set fire to building. Anyone who can't manage that should
stay at home; they're not needed. 

  

That might be a clue as to why they feel like they do and do what they do.
I'm not so much defending violent behaviour, as trying to explain it. There
was a study I was reading about recently in New Scientist that said schools
that fit a certain profile were more likely to have mass killings. The
profile included a cliquey, elitist, non-inclusive atmosphere. Again I'm not
blaming that alone for the killings, but it could have played a part.
Anti-social acts are caused by anti-social people, and there's a reason why
people are anti-social, society bears some blame for that. Like it bears
some of the blame for the systemic problems in our police forces. 

  

  

 

 

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