[kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman on the economic crisis

[Stephen Lawrence]

ok brendan so you are telling me that you are not interested in discovering new horizons and possible ways to become a free man ..your choice 
 


From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 10:12:11 +1000
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman on the economic crisis







The quotes on the following pages are almost all completely appropriate as responses on my behalf Stephen:
 
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/r/robert_anton_wilson.html
 




From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence
Sent: Friday, 1 May 2009 08:36
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman on the economic crisis
 
brendan you talk a good talk about the system but i'm surprised you don't see it for what it is especially if you visit truthout etc ..it is a small group of corporations who with the clever use of the english language have enslaved the masses and brainwashed them into believeing that governments are working for them whilst they work in return ...it's the other way around they are leeches who are bleeding the masses to death ..and the key enslaving tool is MONEY ..check out TPUC .ORG an enlightening way out of this 
 

> Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 04:56:02 +1200

> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman on the economic crisis

> 

> He's about as liberal as he feels he can be within the confines of the

> political / social structure he works within, that's my take. I tend to

> agree with you, and have stronger opinions about the Fed and the US Govt,

> regulation etc, but where I work I keep all of that to myself. Pragmatism

> vs idealism I suppose.

> 

> If you watch that video you'll see that he's basically a realist about the

> extent to which society does what needs to be done (i.e. only to a limited

> extent, and sometimes not at all), due to realpolitik. He's clear on that

> point. He also tries to avoid some of the more political / social

> commentary, being an economist. (And yeah, I personally agree that you

> can't totally divorce the economic from the social / political...)

> 

> Politically you'd probably get more out of Noam Chomsky, or Dean Baker and

> the guys at www.alternet.org or www.truthout.org.

> 

> In terms of Krugman being behind the govt / taxpayer support of financial

> institutions, he's a realist there as well. Pragmatically how much of a

> mess would it be for the govt to nationalise and split up all of these

> large institutions in one hit...the economic fallout would be huge. Long

> term I think it's what needs to be done, they can't be allowed to get 'too

> big to fail' ever again. But the real pain from the economic fallout in

> the whole system falling over and being built up again, is beyond most

> incumbent politicians', and most people's, will...

> 

> >

> > I thought he was good on the war and torture (which are subjects now

> > forgotten in the haze of a mystery flu). But, as an economist he supports

> > the continuance and acceleration of Bush's insanity of propping up

> > malinvestments and failed performance with huge spending. This is the

> > Keynesian madness that got us to the point of collapse, and now with the

> > new puppet in the White House is leading to outright fascism. The Federal

> > Reserve designed this disaster, why should we give them more power?

> >

> > Didn't mean to piss on anyone's parade, I didn't get much sleep.

> >

> >

> >

> >> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 16:20:12 +1000

> >> From: "Brendan Quinn" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

> >> Subject: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman on the

> >> economic crisis

> >> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'"

> >> <gathering at misera.net>

> >> Message-ID: <2A08447174E44AB0AD0433DBCDBED5F9 at HeadHigh>

> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

> >>

> >> Excellent analysis / 101 on the GFC - Global Financial Crisis - by Paul

> >> Krugman.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1924996584154381146

> >> <http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1924996584154381146&ei=VMD4ScTGN5X

> >> 8qAPEq6TpCw&q=economic+crisi>

> >> &ei=VMD4ScTGN5X8qAPEq6TpCw&q=economic+crisi

> >

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