[kj] rebellion?

[Brendan]

You'd have to be brave advertising your fascist leanings in NZ...although
having said that I've seen swastika tatts on black gang members. Cluey
bunch. They mean it more like anti-everything as opposed to pro-Nazi /
fascism. Hence the Mongrel Mob british bulldog symbol, trying to deface
what they perceived to be the very symbol of britishness (is it?).


> white laces in nz used to mean 'loner' i think red was nazi, and yellow

> was

> something too...

> it was never taken too seriously tho, but i was aware that it was about...

>

>

>

>

>

> "due to a lack of trained trumpeters, the end of the world has been

> postponed indefinitely..."

>

>

> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 5:12 AM, Matthew Burke <marsboy1 at msn.com> wrote:

>

>>  I recall that, in the US, red laces mean you've participated in a

>> physical

>> attack against a minority.  They're "earned", not just something you

>> pick up

>> in a shoe shop for a splash of color.

>>

>>

>> >

>> > Message: 1

>> > Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:48:43 +1200 (NZST)

>> > From: "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

>> > Subject: Re: [kj] rebellion?

>> > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"

>> > <gathering at misera.net>

>> > Message-ID:

>> > <46208.203.185.215.144.1249958923.squirrel at mail.orcon.net.nz>

>> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1

>> >

>> > I read a book called F?hrer Ex by Ingo Hasselbach, who was a leading

>> Neo

>> > Nazi figure in the 80s or 90s I think, ended up changing his mind

>> about

>> > it, wrote a book and went around talking to kids in school about

>> racism /

>> > fascism. (I had a mate who was in the anti-fas who reckons he only

>> changed

>> > his spots when he got busted, but who knows. Sounds like he had a shit

>> > time growing up in East Germany under the Stasi and being a Nazi was

>> the

>> > perfect way to rebel against them as fascism is the idealogical

>> opposite

>> > to comminism, in theory). Anyway apparently over there red bootlaces

>> meant

>> > anarchist, white was fascist, and black was neutral. If I remember

>> > correctly.

>> >

>> > > That can actually be true, sometimes. Next time you see a video on

>> > > YouTube of Neo-Nazis, check out the laces on their boots. A lot of

>> the

>> > > times they're white laces. Unfortunately, I have met a few of these

>> > > douchebags and they did have white laces indeed. One had a RAHOWA

>> ball

>> > > cap.

>> > >

>> > > Like anything, just seeing someone with white laces is nothing to

>> accost

>> > > them about,t hough. They may not know what the hell they are doing,

>> like

>> > > all the kids who have "88" after their usernames online because they

>> > > thought it was some punk thing.

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > Alex Smith wrote:

>> > >> I seem to remember reading a piece in SPIN magazine about

>> twenty-five

>> > >> years ago that said you could tell what type of skinhead someone

>> was

>> > >> (i.e. racist or not) by the color of the laces on their Doc

>> Martens.

>> > >>

>> > >> Yeah, whatever.

>> > >>

>> > >> Alex in NYC

>> > >>

>> > >>

>> > >>

>> > >>

>> > >

>> > > _______________________________________________

>> > > Gathering mailing list

>> > > Gathering at misera.net

>> > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering

>>

>>

>> _______________________________________________

>> Gathering mailing list

>> Gathering at misera.net

>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering

>>

>>

> _______________________________________________

> Gathering mailing list

> Gathering at misera.net

> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering

>