From killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com Sun Feb 1 00:32:06 2009 From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com (The Exorcist) Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 00:32:06 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks In-Reply-To: <0CFDE267-4200-4E0E-8EBB-66199AE47DE6@earthlink.net> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072376@mr-pants.the-lab.local> <6461981F-3B5A-4900-90AB-B079CC74BA96@earthlink.net> <1646350c0901311216mf52c824tc62ca2fdc8cc3243@mail.gmail.com> <1646350c0901311424w6d2ca965q94b95129bbb23c73@mail.gmail.com> <0CFDE267-4200-4E0E-8EBB-66199AE47DE6@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <0KED00N6PGQ313E0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> DON'T YOU DARE TELL ME WHAT THE FUCK TO DO!!! :) At 05:44 PM 1/31/2009, Alexander Smith wrote: >Everyone on this list needs to chill the hell out a little bit. > >Alex in NYC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Sun Feb 1 02:47:00 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 18:47:00 +1100 Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks In-Reply-To: References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072376@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: Greg - we're all aware of any amount of John Lydon interviews talking about the demise of music and basically how his band was the be all and end all, everything that had gone before sucked, music as an art form was dead etc etc, but I personally can't remember grunge a) existing as a coherent movement other than in the eyes of the press / record companies marketing depts., and b) having a figurehead - other than Kurt Cobain, who was perplexed about the whole thing and unfit to represent his peers anyway. He never spouted off like Lydon in interviews, he did the usual rock-star sabotage the seriousness of the interview, crack jokes and get through the whole thing while being off your tits schtick, but that was about it. He didn't have a manifesto - he liked what he liked (Queen, Killing Joke amongst others).? I think you're confusing what the lesser music journos and marketers said vs what the reality was. If you're interested, there's a couple of docos on the whole movement, lots of pretty honest interviews with musicians who lived through it all, most of whom didn't touch that success, and they sum it up pretty realistically. There was little else going on musically (in the public eye) other than what'd been done before, people got interested in the Seattle thing cos the musicians up there were pretty creative because they had fuck all else to do and little contact with other bands, so they did their own thing, and a lot of it was pretty cool, but it got out of hand and made into something it wasn't. To me Punk came along, and yeah, had big enough balls to challenge the status quo and rip it up, but to make out like the grunge movement, which didn't really even exist, had the same aspirations or wanted to emulate punk.I can't see it. To me, there were a handful of brilliant Seattle bands that put out a more realistic rock / metal sound that owed more to classic / stadium / 70s rock (Big Rock was another tentative term before they settled on 'Grunge'), metal and punk, and were a welcome move away from Warrant and Whitesnake and the like. And bands like Alice in Chains owed more to metal than 'grunge.' (Despite being a glam rock band until Kim Thayil showed Jerry Cantrell how to play in drop D and they then changed their image and used drop D exclusively, but we won't go there..) Soundgarden were a bit different because they did a lot of experimentation all over the show in the early days, but they covered rock classics like Smokestack Lightning, Big Bottom by Spinal Tap, Earache My Eye by Cheech n Chong.One Minute of Silence (the metal version) by John Lennon.they were more about metal than punk, and were quite tongue in cheek. Big Dumb Sex being a case in point. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of GREG SLAWSON Sent: Sunday, 1 February 2009 05:23 To: gathering Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks Finally a true brother, b! I've always hated grunge too, from the start--it paraded itself as the new "punk" but to me, it always sounded like Led Zep/Aerosmith/Iron Maiden, etc. --all the music punk was against! I'll take Blag Flag any day over that crap! > Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:01:54 +0100 > From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > On 1/31/09, ade wrote: > > > I think we got there due to me being sick of Alex trashing almost everyhing > > I fucking post on this list, frankly. If he chips in, it's likely he's > > telling me I'm WRONG. It's a good job he's a journalist - he's always > > right... > > You know, i have to agree with his viewpoint on Denis Leary. No Cure > For Cancer was good, his performance on MTV Live was ace, but > everything after that was boring crap, including his half arsed movie > career. > > As for Soundgarden vs Stone Temple Pilots, you can take them both and > flush tem out the toilet, along with every fucking band that sounds > even REMOTELY like any of them. The ONLY band EVER out of the whole > "grunge" wave EVER worth more than two shits is Tribe After Tribe from > South Africa, the rest can go autocopulate, devour feces and perish! > > > b > Grunge hater since day one > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____ HotmailR goes where you go. On a PC, on the Web, on your phone. See how. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pmdavies at gmail.com Sun Feb 1 02:57:44 2009 From: pmdavies at gmail.com (iPat) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 07:57:44 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks In-Reply-To: <0KED00N6PGQ313E0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072376@mr-pants.the-lab.local> <6461981F-3B5A-4900-90AB-B079CC74BA96@earthlink.net> <1646350c0901311216mf52c824tc62ca2fdc8cc3243@mail.gmail.com> <1646350c0901311424w6d2ca965q94b95129bbb23c73@mail.gmail.com> <0CFDE267-4200-4E0E-8EBB-66199AE47DE6@earthlink.net> <0KED00N6PGQ313E0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Message-ID: <1646350c0901312357w598b702fw2cb70aa5dfd42f71@mail.gmail.com> s t o p s h o u t i n g On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 5:32 AM, The Exorcist wrote: > DON'T YOU DARE TELL ME WHAT THE FUCK TO DO!!! > > :) > Martin Luther King's Dream is no longer a Dream. It's become an intellectual commodity, a plastic-wrapped piece of schmaltz, a gift wrapped platitude so far removed from its revolutionary roots as a Che Guevara T shirt. one size fits all From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Sun Feb 1 03:24:18 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 19:24:18 +1100 Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks In-Reply-To: References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072376@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: <999A8D77370049FC8FF2F99CE93A6F27@Soundgardener> Hype! doco: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue2l7Mzd5iw &feature=related Grunge VH1 special: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VK-IB3e_glc _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: Sunday, 1 February 2009 18:47 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks Greg - we're all aware of any amount of John Lydon interviews talking about the demise of music and basically how his band was the be all and end all, everything that had gone before sucked, music as an art form was dead etc etc, but I personally can't remember grunge a) existing as a coherent movement other than in the eyes of the press / record companies marketing depts., and b) having a figurehead - other than Kurt Cobain, who was perplexed about the whole thing and unfit to represent his peers anyway. He never spouted off like Lydon in interviews, he did the usual rock-star sabotage the seriousness of the interview, crack jokes and get through the whole thing while being off your tits schtick, but that was about it. He didn't have a manifesto - he liked what he liked (Queen, Killing Joke amongst others).? I think you're confusing what the lesser music journos and marketers said vs what the reality was. If you're interested, there's a couple of docos on the whole movement, lots of pretty honest interviews with musicians who lived through it all, most of whom didn't touch that success, and they sum it up pretty realistically. There was little else going on musically (in the public eye) other than what'd been done before, people got interested in the Seattle thing cos the musicians up there were pretty creative because they had fuck all else to do and little contact with other bands, so they did their own thing, and a lot of it was pretty cool, but it got out of hand and made into something it wasn't. To me Punk came along, and yeah, had big enough balls to challenge the status quo and rip it up, but to make out like the grunge movement, which didn't really even exist, had the same aspirations or wanted to emulate punk.I can't see it. To me, there were a handful of brilliant Seattle bands that put out a more realistic rock / metal sound that owed more to classic / stadium / 70s rock (Big Rock was another tentative term before they settled on 'Grunge'), metal and punk, and were a welcome move away from Warrant and Whitesnake and the like. And bands like Alice in Chains owed more to metal than 'grunge.' (Despite being a glam rock band until Kim Thayil showed Jerry Cantrell how to play in drop D and they then changed their image and used drop D exclusively, but we won't go there..) Soundgarden were a bit different because they did a lot of experimentation all over the show in the early days, but they covered rock classics like Smokestack Lightning, Big Bottom by Spinal Tap, Earache My Eye by Cheech n Chong.One Minute of Silence (the metal version) by John Lennon.they were more about metal than punk, and were quite tongue in cheek. Big Dumb Sex being a case in point. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of GREG SLAWSON Sent: Sunday, 1 February 2009 05:23 To: gathering Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks Finally a true brother, b! I've always hated grunge too, from the start--it paraded itself as the new "punk" but to me, it always sounded like Led Zep/Aerosmith/Iron Maiden, etc. --all the music punk was against! I'll take Blag Flag any day over that crap! > Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:01:54 +0100 > From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > On 1/31/09, ade wrote: > > > I think we got there due to me being sick of Alex trashing almost everyhing > > I fucking post on this list, frankly. If he chips in, it's likely he's > > telling me I'm WRONG. It's a good job he's a journalist - he's always > > right... > > You know, i have to agree with his viewpoint on Denis Leary. No Cure > For Cancer was good, his performance on MTV Live was ace, but > everything after that was boring crap, including his half arsed movie > career. > > As for Soundgarden vs Stone Temple Pilots, you can take them both and > flush tem out the toilet, along with every fucking band that sounds > even REMOTELY like any of them. The ONLY band EVER out of the whole > "grunge" wave EVER worth more than two shits is Tribe After Tribe from > South Africa, the rest can go autocopulate, devour feces and perish! > > > b > Grunge hater since day one > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____ HotmailR goes where you go. On a PC, on the Web, on your phone. See how. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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"I crush your head". :) At 02:57 AM 2/1/2009, iPat wrote: >s t o p s h o u t i n g > >On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 5:32 AM, The Exorcist > wrote: > > DON'T YOU DARE TELL ME WHAT THE FUCK TO DO!!! > > > > :) > > > >Martin Luther King's Dream is no longer a Dream. It's become an >intellectual commodity, a plastic-wrapped piece of schmaltz, a gift >wrapped platitude so far removed from its revolutionary roots as a Che >Guevara T shirt. one size fits all >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering at misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:58:51 -0500 From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks (I truly hope you didn't take my post seriously.) On that note, a better reply would be. "I crush your head". :) At 02:57 AM 2/1/2009, iPat wrote: s t o p s h o u t i n g On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 5:32 AM, The Exorcist wrote: > DON'T YOU DARE TELL ME WHAT THE FUCK TO DO!!! > > :) > Martin Luther King's Dream is no longer a Dream. It's become an intellectual commodity, a plastic-wrapped piece of schmaltz, a gift wrapped platitude so far removed from its revolutionary roots as a Che Guevara T shirt. one size fits all _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Twice the fun?Share photos while you chat with Windows Live Messenger. 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URL: From pmdavies at gmail.com Sun Feb 1 10:35:03 2009 From: pmdavies at gmail.com (iPat) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:35:03 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks In-Reply-To: <0KEE00D5W6YPXNX0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072376@mr-pants.the-lab.local> <6461981F-3B5A-4900-90AB-B079CC74BA96@earthlink.net> <1646350c0901311216mf52c824tc62ca2fdc8cc3243@mail.gmail.com> <1646350c0901311424w6d2ca965q94b95129bbb23c73@mail.gmail.com> <0CFDE267-4200-4E0E-8EBB-66199AE47DE6@earthlink.net> <0KED00N6PGQ313E0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> <1646350c0901312357w598b702fw2cb70aa5dfd42f71@mail.gmail.com> <0KEE00D5W6YPXNX0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Message-ID: <1646350c0902010735m650caea2x5f0245ea1a4882e0@mail.gmail.com> you'll never take the chelsea! your going home in a fking ambulance hit im on the ead hit im on the ead hit him on the ead with a baseball bat oh yeah oh yeah right! with that its off to watch the footie! c'mon the chels! On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 2:58 PM, The Exorcist wrote: > (I truly hope you didn't take my post seriously.) > > On that note, a better reply would be. "I crush your head". :) > > At 02:57 AM 2/1/2009, iPat wrote: > > s t o p s h o u t i n g > > On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 5:32 AM, The Exorcist > wrote: >> DON'T YOU DARE TELL ME WHAT THE FUCK TO DO!!! >> >> :) >> > > Martin Luther King's Dream is no longer a Dream. It's become an > intellectual commodity, a plastic-wrapped piece of schmaltz, a gift > wrapped platitude so far removed from its revolutionary roots as a Che > Guevara T shirt. one size fits all From pmdavies at gmail.com Sun Feb 1 10:36:55 2009 From: pmdavies at gmail.com (iPat) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:36:55 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks In-Reply-To: References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072376@mr-pants.the-lab.local> <6461981F-3B5A-4900-90AB-B079CC74BA96@earthlink.net> <1646350c0901311216mf52c824tc62ca2fdc8cc3243@mail.gmail.com> <1646350c0901311424w6d2ca965q94b95129bbb23c73@mail.gmail.com> <0CFDE267-4200-4E0E-8EBB-66199AE47DE6@earthlink.net> <0KED00N6PGQ313E0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> <1646350c0901312357w598b702fw2cb70aa5dfd42f71@mail.gmail.com> <0KEE00D5W6YPXNX0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Message-ID: <1646350c0902010736j3aa4c510paff910bd3073d19b@mail.gmail.com> we don't wear socks with sandals! On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:17 PM, fluke fluke wrote: > Can I join in ? > What are we arguing about ? > I can be bothered to read all the posts > Israel was defending itself, Hammas are terrorists , there is no global > warming , Bildernberg group do not rule the World and neither do green > lizards............and the Democracy album wasn't very good ...........and > the UK invented Punk .....who f'king wants it ? > Martin Luther King's Dream is no longer a Dream. It's become an intellectual commodity, a plastic-wrapped piece of schmaltz, a gift wrapped platitude so far removed from its revolutionary roots as a Che Guevara T shirt. one size fits all From rkpettiford at yahoo.com Sun Feb 1 14:00:57 2009 From: rkpettiford at yahoo.com (Kevin Richard) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:00:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 65, Issue 2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <861529.14720.qm@web59802.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> It is snowing like mad here in west sussex UK just in case you like to know From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Sun Feb 1 15:09:47 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 07:09:47 +1100 Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks In-Reply-To: <027501c983ff$9f9c9cb0$ded5d610$@com> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072376@mr-pants.the-lab.local> <6461981F-3B5A-4900-90AB-B079CC74BA96@earthlink.net> <1646350c0901311216mf52c824tc62ca2fdc8cc3243@mail.gmail.com> <1646350c0901311424w6d2ca965q94b95129bbb23c73@mail.gmail.com><0CFDE267-4200-4E0E-8EBB-66199AE47DE6@earthlink.net> <027501c983ff$9f9c9cb0$ded5d610$@com> Message-ID: <921FAFACB1B1452DAA967EBE373E92BF@Soundgardener> PS: Yeah that photo you linked to is an aberration, should never have seen the light of day. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: Sunday, 1 February 2009 10:57 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks Maybe not everyone. I don't like Soundgarden much. I found the early, squealy albums unpleasant, and the last one dull and contrived. I actually like the first STP album more than all but "Superunknown", and think that Soundgarden looked really, really silly. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f4/Sg91promo.jpg But that means nothing other than that it's how I feel. No-one here has any disproportionate force behind their views, imnsho, even the irritating, bombastic ones like me. I still think Axl should be peeled, though. Darren Hungerford, UK -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexander Smith Sent: 31 January 2009 22:44 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks I wasn't referring to YOU when I alluded to Year Zero. "Year Zero" is shorthand for Punk Rock's myopic scorched earth policy of renouncing all that came before it. Everyone on this list needs to chill the hell out a little bit. Alex in NYC On Jan 31, 2009, at 5:24 PM, iPat wrote: > not what i said, > i never referred to year zero, although i don't really know what you > mean exactly by that. > > My point is that while we can sometimes take ourselves out to > different genres where one or two finds may be the exception, you will > generally be disposed to what you initially were turned on by. I may > have a few 'metal' tracks in my collection but in general im more > likely to default to where my journey really started, which is > naturally influenced by the peer group at the time. > > For me, where i was in the UK at that time, it was the early 70's > skinhead music which set me off due to my peers influence. I've never > worn a rocker style leather jacket synonymous with rock music. The > status quo rocker scene was the antithesis of my 'culture' and the > music was abhorrent. That's not to say i don't have the odd early > AC/DC or Pink Floyd track and you know my feelings on Rush. Whether > any so called celeb is into a band has no effect on me but can > titillate others to no end. That's people for you. > > I had a branch of industrial music that went off with mainly psychick > tv but a lot of krautrock' industrial stuff didn't interest me as > Orbital or Spiral tribe held little interest for Metallica fans. In > fact my PTV collection is quite large with all the literature that i > had and i think i will give it a suitable collector. Flat mates at the > time fcking hated it, unable to understand my hysterics when 'Jesus > Christ Walks on Water' was blasted out the window on number 10 volume > control to the neighborhood. > > The crux of the matter though, is that the more i experience a wider > scope of music, i find myself defaulting to the original inspirations. > Whether you find the same is irrelevant in that you are you and of > course your experiences will be unique to your disposition. I'll wager > there is a disposition though. A recent remark on someone on this list > in private correspondence has also shown him to deferring to his > Groundhogs, Hawkwind, Todd Rundgren, Peter Green Fleetwood Mac. All of > which i find completely abhorrent unless i want to pretend to be a > music snob and pretend there's some intellectual relevance to it. > there's not, i simply dont get off on it. > > It's like gigs, it simply amazes me that i can go to gigs and there's > never a fight anymore......where are the balls ; ) > > So whilst you may not agree with it, it is because i am not you as you > are not me. I'm right though and i blame it on mother.......... : 0 > > On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Alexander Smith > wrote: >> >> I never fully subscribed to all that 'Year Zero' stuff. I love lots >> of >> metal. I adore Punk Rock. I like an unwieldy dollop of so-called >> 'classic >> rock.' I like bits of reggae. I like a lot of dance music. There's >> more than >> enough crap that I *don't* like, but at the end of the day, music >> is music. >> I'm too old to define myself by any single genre anymore. >> >> Henry Rollins of Black Flag, by the way (since they were invoked >> earlier) is >> a huge fan of Ted Nugent, Van Halen and Aerosmith. >> >> Alex in NYC > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Sun Feb 1 15:22:06 2009 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 20:22:06 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097114@mr-pants.the-lab.local> But they look gorgeous! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 01 February 2009 20:10 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks PS: Yeah that photo you linked to is an aberration, should never have seen the light of day. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: Sunday, 1 February 2009 10:57 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks Maybe not everyone. I don't like Soundgarden much. I found the early, squealy albums unpleasant, and the last one dull and contrived. I actually like the first STP album more than all but "Superunknown", and think that Soundgarden looked really, really silly. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f4/Sg91promo.jpg But that means nothing other than that it's how I feel. No-one here has any disproportionate force behind their views, imnsho, even the irritating, bombastic ones like me. I still think Axl should be peeled, though. Darren Hungerford, UK -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexander Smith Sent: 31 January 2009 22:44 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks I wasn't referring to YOU when I alluded to Year Zero. "Year Zero" is shorthand for Punk Rock's myopic scorched earth policy of renouncing all that came before it. Everyone on this list needs to chill the hell out a little bit. Alex in NYC On Jan 31, 2009, at 5:24 PM, iPat wrote: > not what i said, > i never referred to year zero, although i don't really know what you > mean exactly by that. > > My point is that while we can sometimes take ourselves out to > different genres where one or two finds may be the exception, you will > generally be disposed to what you initially were turned on by. I may > have a few 'metal' tracks in my collection but in general im more > likely to default to where my journey really started, which is > naturally influenced by the peer group at the time. > > For me, where i was in the UK at that time, it was the early 70's > skinhead music which set me off due to my peers influence. I've never > worn a rocker style leather jacket synonymous with rock music. The > status quo rocker scene was the antithesis of my 'culture' and the > music was abhorrent. That's not to say i don't have the odd early > AC/DC or Pink Floyd track and you know my feelings on Rush. Whether > any so called celeb is into a band has no effect on me but can > titillate others to no end. That's people for you. > > I had a branch of industrial music that went off with mainly psychick > tv but a lot of krautrock' industrial stuff didn't interest me as > Orbital or Spiral tribe held little interest for Metallica fans. In > fact my PTV collection is quite large with all the literature that i > had and i think i will give it a suitable collector. Flat mates at the > time fcking hated it, unable to understand my hysterics when 'Jesus > Christ Walks on Water' was blasted out the window on number 10 volume > control to the neighborhood. > > The crux of the matter though, is that the more i experience a wider > scope of music, i find myself defaulting to the original inspirations. > Whether you find the same is irrelevant in that you are you and of > course your experiences will be unique to your disposition. I'll wager > there is a disposition though. A recent remark on someone on this list > in private correspondence has also shown him to deferring to his > Groundhogs, Hawkwind, Todd Rundgren, Peter Green Fleetwood Mac. All of > which i find completely abhorrent unless i want to pretend to be a > music snob and pretend there's some intellectual relevance to it. > there's not, i simply dont get off on it. > > It's like gigs, it simply amazes me that i can go to gigs and there's > never a fight anymore......where are the balls ; ) > > So whilst you may not agree with it, it is because i am not you as you > are not me. I'm right though and i blame it on mother.......... : 0 > > On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Alexander Smith > wrote: >> >> I never fully subscribed to all that 'Year Zero' stuff. I love lots >> of >> metal. I adore Punk Rock. I like an unwieldy dollop of so-called >> 'classic >> rock.' I like bits of reggae. I like a lot of dance music. There's >> more than >> enough crap that I *don't* like, but at the end of the day, music >> is music. >> I'm too old to define myself by any single genre anymore. >> >> Henry Rollins of Black Flag, by the way (since they were invoked >> earlier) is >> a huge fan of Ted Nugent, Van Halen and Aerosmith. >> >> Alex in NYC > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephen.l at live.com Sun Feb 1 15:58:48 2009 From: stephen.l at live.com (Stephen Lawrence) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 20:58:48 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks In-Reply-To: <0CFDE267-4200-4E0E-8EBB-66199AE47DE6@earthlink.net> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072376@mr-pants.the-lab.local> <6461981F-3B5A-4900-90AB-B079CC74BA96@earthlink.net> <1646350c0901311216mf52c824tc62ca2fdc8cc3243@mail.gmail.com> <1646350c0901311424w6d2ca965q94b95129bbb23c73@mail.gmail.com> <0CFDE267-4200-4E0E-8EBB-66199AE47DE6@earthlink.net> Message-ID: i'm on your side alex in fact i loved the glowsticks comment i burst out laughing i watch what goes on here and no longer comment as like you said people are too uptight and up thier ass here > From: vassifer at earthlink.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:44:27 -0500> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks> > I wasn't referring to YOU when I alluded to Year Zero. "Year Zero" is > shorthand for Punk Rock's myopic scorched earth policy of renouncing > all that came before it.> > Everyone on this list needs to chill the hell out a little bit.> > Alex in NYC> > > > On Jan 31, 2009, at 5:24 PM, iPat wrote:> > > not what i said,> > i never referred to year zero, although i don't really know what you> > mean exactly by that.> >> > My point is that while we can sometimes take ourselves out to> > different genres where one or two finds may be the exception, you will> > generally be disposed to what you initially were turned on by. I may> > have a few 'metal' tracks in my collection but in general im more> > likely to default to where my journey really started, which is> > naturally influenced by the peer group at the time.> >> > For me, where i was in the UK at that time, it was the early 70's> > skinhead music which set me off due to my peers influence. I've never> > worn a rocker style leather jacket synonymous with rock music. The> > status quo rocker scene was the antithesis of my 'culture' and the> > music was abhorrent. That's not to say i don't have the odd early> > AC/DC or Pink Floyd track and you know my feelings on Rush. Whether> > any so called celeb is into a band has no effect on me but can> > titillate others to no end. That's people for you.> >> > I had a branch of industrial music that went off with mainly psychick> > tv but a lot of krautrock' industrial stuff didn't interest me as> > Orbital or Spiral tribe held little interest for Metallica fans. In> > fact my PTV collection is quite large with all the literature that i> > had and i think i will give it a suitable collector. Flat mates at the> > time fcking hated it, unable to understand my hysterics when 'Jesus> > Christ Walks on Water' was blasted out the window on number 10 volume> > control to the neighborhood.> >> > The crux of the matter though, is that the more i experience a wider> > scope of music, i find myself defaulting to the original inspirations.> > Whether you find the same is irrelevant in that you are you and of> > course your experiences will be unique to your disposition. I'll wager> > there is a disposition though. A recent remark on someone on this list> > in private correspondence has also shown him to deferring to his> > Groundhogs, Hawkwind, Todd Rundgren, Peter Green Fleetwood Mac. All of> > which i find completely abhorrent unless i want to pretend to be a> > music snob and pretend there's some intellectual relevance to it.> > there's not, i simply dont get off on it.> >> > It's like gigs, it simply amazes me that i can go to gigs and there's> > never a fight anymore......where are the balls ; )> >> > So whilst you may not agree with it, it is because i am not you as you> > are not me. I'm right though and i blame it on mother.......... : 0> >> > On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Alexander Smith > > wrote:> >>> >> I never fully subscribed to all that 'Year Zero' stuff. I love lots > >> of> >> metal. I adore Punk Rock. I like an unwieldy dollop of so-called > >> 'classic> >> rock.' I like bits of reggae. I like a lot of dance music. There's > >> more than> >> enough crap that I *don't* like, but at the end of the day, music > >> is music.> >> I'm too old to define myself by any single genre anymore.> >>> >> Henry Rollins of Black Flag, by the way (since they were invoked > >> earlier) is> >> a huge fan of Ted Nugent, Van Halen and Aerosmith.> >>> >> Alex in NYC> > _______________________________________________> > Gathering mailing list> > Gathering at misera.net> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Check out the new and improved services from Windows Live. Learn more! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/132630768/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephen.l at live.com Sun Feb 1 15:58:51 2009 From: stephen.l at live.com (Stephen Lawrence) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 20:58:51 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks In-Reply-To: <0CFDE267-4200-4E0E-8EBB-66199AE47DE6@earthlink.net> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072376@mr-pants.the-lab.local> <6461981F-3B5A-4900-90AB-B079CC74BA96@earthlink.net> <1646350c0901311216mf52c824tc62ca2fdc8cc3243@mail.gmail.com> <1646350c0901311424w6d2ca965q94b95129bbb23c73@mail.gmail.com> <0CFDE267-4200-4E0E-8EBB-66199AE47DE6@earthlink.net> Message-ID: i'm on your side alex in fact i loved the glowsticks comment i burst out laughing i watch what goes on here and no longer comment as like you said people are too uptight and up thier ass here > From: vassifer at earthlink.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:44:27 -0500> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks> > I wasn't referring to YOU when I alluded to Year Zero. "Year Zero" is > shorthand for Punk Rock's myopic scorched earth policy of renouncing > all that came before it.> > Everyone on this list needs to chill the hell out a little bit.> > Alex in NYC> > > > On Jan 31, 2009, at 5:24 PM, iPat wrote:> > > not what i said,> > i never referred to year zero, although i don't really know what you> > mean exactly by that.> >> > My point is that while we can sometimes take ourselves out to> > different genres where one or two finds may be the exception, you will> > generally be disposed to what you initially were turned on by. I may> > have a few 'metal' tracks in my collection but in general im more> > likely to default to where my journey really started, which is> > naturally influenced by the peer group at the time.> >> > For me, where i was in the UK at that time, it was the early 70's> > skinhead music which set me off due to my peers influence. I've never> > worn a rocker style leather jacket synonymous with rock music. The> > status quo rocker scene was the antithesis of my 'culture' and the> > music was abhorrent. That's not to say i don't have the odd early> > AC/DC or Pink Floyd track and you know my feelings on Rush. Whether> > any so called celeb is into a band has no effect on me but can> > titillate others to no end. That's people for you.> >> > I had a branch of industrial music that went off with mainly psychick> > tv but a lot of krautrock' industrial stuff didn't interest me as> > Orbital or Spiral tribe held little interest for Metallica fans. In> > fact my PTV collection is quite large with all the literature that i> > had and i think i will give it a suitable collector. Flat mates at the> > time fcking hated it, unable to understand my hysterics when 'Jesus> > Christ Walks on Water' was blasted out the window on number 10 volume> > control to the neighborhood.> >> > The crux of the matter though, is that the more i experience a wider> > scope of music, i find myself defaulting to the original inspirations.> > Whether you find the same is irrelevant in that you are you and of> > course your experiences will be unique to your disposition. I'll wager> > there is a disposition though. A recent remark on someone on this list> > in private correspondence has also shown him to deferring to his> > Groundhogs, Hawkwind, Todd Rundgren, Peter Green Fleetwood Mac. All of> > which i find completely abhorrent unless i want to pretend to be a> > music snob and pretend there's some intellectual relevance to it.> > there's not, i simply dont get off on it.> >> > It's like gigs, it simply amazes me that i can go to gigs and there's> > never a fight anymore......where are the balls ; )> >> > So whilst you may not agree with it, it is because i am not you as you> > are not me. I'm right though and i blame it on mother.......... : 0> >> > On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Alexander Smith > > wrote:> >>> >> I never fully subscribed to all that 'Year Zero' stuff. I love lots > >> of> >> metal. I adore Punk Rock. I like an unwieldy dollop of so-called > >> 'classic> >> rock.' I like bits of reggae. I like a lot of dance music. There's > >> more than> >> enough crap that I *don't* like, but at the end of the day, music > >> is music.> >> I'm too old to define myself by any single genre anymore.> >>> >> Henry Rollins of Black Flag, by the way (since they were invoked > >> earlier) is> >> a huge fan of Ted Nugent, Van Halen and Aerosmith.> >>> >> Alex in NYC> > _______________________________________________> > Gathering mailing list> > Gathering at misera.net> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Check out the new and improved services from Windows Live. Learn more! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/132630768/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From heiferboy at robinsonworld.freeserve.co.uk Sun Feb 1 16:16:28 2009 From: heiferboy at robinsonworld.freeserve.co.uk (Stephen Robinson) Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 21:16:28 +0000 Subject: [kj] Its all falling apart at the seams................... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3a79d21058a.2a000fea@smtp.freeserve.com> Depends on which bank he's got his pention funds in. > > > > > Is Jaz laughing about it ? > > > > > > > > > From dpeace at bigfoot.com Sun Feb 1 16:37:51 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 21:37:51 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097114@mr-pants.the-lab.local> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097114@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: <000c01c984b5$55e3cfb0$01ab6f10$@com> "Gorge" being the operative syllable. Jesus Christ! A ladyboy, an Arctic explorer Yeti, Howard Jones and the fellow to the right of the ThumbBoy photo! Slightly back on topic, however: http://www.konformist.com/2000/bill-hicks.htm Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade Sent: 01 February 2009 20:22 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks But they look gorgeous! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 01 February 2009 20:10 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks PS: Yeah that photo you linked to is an aberration, should never have seen the light of day. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpeace at bigfoot.com Sun Feb 1 19:25:51 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 00:25:51 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks In-Reply-To: <15BBA1D3A2C4464188BDC72B9D949E31@Soundgardener> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072375@mr-pants.the-lab.local> <032EF75ADBE84DA68881A6F6BC61F69B@Soundgardener> <15BBA1D3A2C4464188BDC72B9D949E31@Soundgardener> Message-ID: <002601c984cc$ce2759d0$6a760d70$@com> I think my favourite Aristophanes line is about how rain is God pissing through a sieve. Either from "Frogs" or "Clouds", can't remember which. And I'm thankful that the "comedy is the new rock & roll" nonsense was euthanised. Horrible idea, aggravated by working a while back with a Jongleurs zombie who insisted on using the phrase "observational comedy" in every sentence and then explaining what it means, as though I were both 7 and unable to speak English. Still, he liked the Steve Miller band, and I got him to go to a non-fancy dress board meeting dressed as Roy "Chubby" Brown, so all ended well. Like Hicks (mainly for religious diatribes rather than right-on boredom), think Leary is a weasel-faced also-ran who made the grave mistake of involving himself in that appalling fireman TV series. Meh. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 31 January 2009 09:25 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks I think people taking comedy seriously has something to do with the ancient role of the court jester, poking fun at the King etc. Like Jaz & BPF mentioned in that brief interview that went around a while ago. We expect them to amuse us, but there's also that angle of social critique. Challenging values and challenging authority. With the better comedians that is.you're not really gonna get it from Larry the Cable Guy, or Seinfeld (but you *might* from Larry David). Christ if I remember back far enough (Classical Studies at school in '91) there was a Greek slave comic playwright who took the piss out of those in power, Aristophanes.and even though he was a slave who viciously & publicly ridiculed those in power, he got away with it because he did it with great humour. It's hard to feel outrage about something when an entire auditorium is cracking up about it... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristophanes So elevating a comic who challenges the status quo to heroic proportions isn't anything new. Hicks always said he attacked things that offended his sense of reason, and after hearing that and going back over his stuff, it's quite a theme. Not that it's anything unique in comedy. But the extent to which he's worshipped, I stand by it - hence the staunch defence, 15+ years after the event. No one has ever made me laugh as hard and at the same time articulated a sense of outrage at the primitive state of civilisation. Basically take your peak experiences with whatever art or literature or whatever that has really elevated your consciousness, that's how it felt for me, listening to Hicks for the first time. So yeah, he's up there with Hendrix and Robert Anton Wilson and Soundgarden and my other heroes, but not because of some cult of personality or posthumous popularity. And I can forgive the bits where he goes over the top, to the same extent I forgive Jaz for the same. Seems to go hand in hand with 'being out there'. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 19:44 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'; 'Alex Smith' Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks Oh no how'd we get into this? I thought I was raising an in joke between Ade and me re SG vs STP to a) illustrate how I felt about Hicks vs Leary, and b) make sure that it was taken light-heartedly. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 08:40 To: Alex Smith; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > PS: Soundgarden is, was, and e'er shall be LIGHT YEARS better than STP. I'm sure they are mate, but how do I *make* myself like Soundgarden & not like STP ? What I actually said was that I preferred STP is all. I'm supposed to be wrong, how? -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Alex Smith Sent: 30 January 2009 21:09 To: ade; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks I saw Leary perform 'No Cure for Cancer' live in a tiny club in the West Village, thanks. Hicks is funny, but has since become deified to ridiculous degrees. Also, Hicks had a tiresomely sanctimonious quality to his work which made me enjoy it less than Leary's. My opinion. Alex in NYC PS: Soundgarden is, was, and e'er shall be LIGHT YEARS better than STP. -----Original Message----- From: ade Sent: Jan 30, 2009 3:30 PM To: Alex Smith , "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Subject: RE: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks I get the feeling you've not actually seen the material that I argue (amongst many others) Leary clearly ripped from Hicks. In that case, how can you pass judgement? I loved Leary's 'No Cure for Cancer', until I got into Hicks. I couldn't believe I was hearing the same jokes VERY DISTINCTIVE jokes being repeated right back at me - that totally destroyed No Cure for cancer for me. Keep your fingers in your ears, it's only my opinion. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Alex Smith Sent: 30 January 2009 18:38 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks The perils and ramifications of smoking aren't really "niche" material. You may not like Dennis Leary -- fair enough -- but to accuse him of ripping off Hicks in that capacity is pretty unfair. Alex in NYC -----Original Message----- From: Brendan Quinn Sent: Jan 30, 2009 12:46 PM To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks We were comparing them because they covered similar material, that I'm pretty sure Hicks came up with and Leary stole. Specifically the voicebox gag. I could be wrong, but that's the accusation. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alex Smith Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 03:59 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks You seem to be equating them merely on the fact that they're both "angry" comedians. That's not much to go on. I mean, why not toss Don Rickles into the mix too, then? Alex in NYC -----Original Message----- From: Brendan Quinn Sent: Jan 30, 2009 10:31 AM To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks Not a fair comparison.because? _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexander Smith Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 23:15 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks was capable of being. I love both, but it's not really a fair comparison. Alex in NYC On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote: Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=? Please show working. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;) >From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is Denis Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because there's no cure for cancer"' -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 29 January 2009 04:57 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks The only other comedians I'd put in that category (and none as good as Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who's a surprising find actually. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8 PS: I haven't watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but from memory it's pretty cool. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Bette Dillinger Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks Hey everyone! Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it. In the US David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the routine of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994 because it was considered too "controversial". The routine that sullied his relationship with the media to a degree. His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make this shit up.)......... Damn, it has been 14 years! Are there any comedians that are flying under the radar that should be checked out? I am still looking for one whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour. Bette _____ size=2 width="100%" align=center> Windows LiveT: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. Check it out. _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpeace at bigfoot.com Sun Feb 1 19:26:16 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 00:26:16 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT : White Lies In-Reply-To: <20090130041715.1FEBE928@resin15.mta.everyone.net> References: <20090130041715.1FEBE928@resin15.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <002b01c984cc$dcbcb800$96362800$@com> My timeline: Saw them on that ghastly Jools honkytonk program, noted as interesting and to look out for album. Heard "Unfinished Business" on (of all things) the radio - daughter insisting on Radio One in the car to subject me to R&B bollocks has the occasional benefit, although introducing me to the delights of Yo Yo or whatever he's called not being one of them. Remind self to watch out for album. Put out feelers. Receive email from friend in A&R who has a promo of album, who is kind enough to send me a rip. Become aware of rusty grindings as hype machine shifts up a gear. Points lost, but superceded by frequency of album on ipod playlist. Decide EST is brilliant. Order Death & Unfinished Business singles. Note with disappointment that only limited album is to be vinyl permutations. If I like an album, I'll buy any limited version or, in the absence of a limited run, download it (normally from dodgy torrent) until the standard version is in the HMV sales. Realise I'm still listening to album daily. Succumb, and pay what goes for full price these days for the standard CD. Admire CD on shelf, and wonder if the Editors guy did the artwork for this too. Wonder why reviews all mention Cope and Joy Division, but not early OMD, who are a distinct influence? Realise I like every track on the album, and wonder if I've heard a stronger debut in the last year, despite occasionally awkward lyrics. And to clear up any confusion, I also very much like Editors and Interpol, both of whom I've also really rated live. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Rob's Arse Sent: 30 January 2009 12:17 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT : White Lies I even BOUGHT it! Not just an illegal download, I PAID. MONEY. www.iamscuzzy.com www.myspace.com/scuzzywear --- fatpotanga at gmail.com wrote: From: fatpotanga To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)" Subject: Re: [kj] OT : White Lies Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:45:34 +0000 Yup - me too & I wholeheartedly agree with your 'grumpy old grumbling' line. It's all very pipe & slippers "Now, when I were a lad..." :) On 30 Jan 2009, at 09:41, Janean Lancaster wrote: >From what I?ve heard, me too. Don?t know whether the whole album will stand up to repeated listens or not yet though, but the single has so far. Can?t understand grumpy old grumbling about ?rip-offs? ? if the music?s great I just don?t care. 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Will listen to both in their respective entireties this week for a decent re-appraisal. Alex in NYC On Feb 1, 2009, at 7:25 PM, Darren A. Peace wrote: > I think my favourite Aristophanes line is about how rain is God > pissing through a sieve. Either from "Frogs" or "Clouds", can't > remember which. > > And I'm thankful that the "comedy is the new rock & roll" nonsense > was euthanised. Horrible idea, aggravated by working a while back > with a Jongleurs zombie who insisted on using the phrase > "observational comedy" in every sentence and then explaining what it > means, as though I were both 7 and unable to speak English. Still, > he liked the Steve Miller band, and I got him to go to a non-fancy > dress board meeting dressed as Roy "Chubby" Brown, so all ended well. > > Like Hicks (mainly for religious diatribes rather than right-on > boredom), think Leary is a weasel-faced also-ran who made the grave > mistake of involving himself in that appalling fireman TV series. Meh. > > Darren > Hungerford, UK > > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net > ] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn > Sent: 31 January 2009 09:25 > To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > I think people taking comedy seriously has something to do with the > ancient role of the court jester, poking fun at the King etc. Like > Jaz & BPF mentioned in that brief interview that went around a while > ago. We expect them to amuse us, but there?s also that angle of > social critique. Challenging values and challenging authority. With > the better comedians that is?you?re not really gonna get it from > Larry the Cable Guy, or Seinfeld (but you *might* from Larry David). > Christ if I remember back far enough (Classical Studies at school in > ?91) there was a Greek slave comic playwright who took the piss out > of those in power, Aristophanes?and even though he was a slave who > viciously & publicly ridiculed those in power, he got away with it > because he did it with great humour. It?s hard to feel outrage about > something when an entire auditorium is cracking up about it... > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristophanes > > So elevating a comic who challenges the status quo to heroic > proportions isn?t anything new. > > Hicks always said he attacked things that offended his sense of > reason, and after hearing that and going back over his stuff, it?s > quite a theme. Not that it?s anything unique in comedy. But the > extent to which he?s worshipped, I stand by it - hence the staunch > defence, 15+ years after the event. No one has ever made me laugh as > hard and at the same time articulated a sense of outrage at the > primitive state of civilisation. Basically take your peak > experiences with whatever art or literature or whatever that has > really elevated your consciousness, that?s how it felt for me, > listening to Hicks for the first time. So yeah, he?s up there with > Hendrix and Robert Anton Wilson and Soundgarden and my other heroes, > but not because of some cult of personality or posthumous popularity. > > And I can forgive the bits where he goes over the top, to the same > extent I forgive Jaz for the same. Seems to go hand in hand with > ?being out there?. > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net > ] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn > Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 19:44 > To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'; 'Alex Smith' > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > Oh no how?d we get into this? I thought I was raising an in joke > between Ade and me re SG vs STP to a) illustrate how I felt about > Hicks vs Leary, and b) make sure that it was taken light-heartedly? > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net > ] On Behalf Of ade > Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 08:40 > To: Alex Smith; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > > PS: Soundgarden is, was, and e'er shall be LIGHT YEARS better than > STP. > > I'm sure they are mate, but how do I *make* myself like Soundgarden > & not like STP ? What I actually said was that I preferred STP is > all. I'm supposed to be wrong, how? > -----Original Message----- > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net > ]On Behalf Of Alex Smith > Sent: 30 January 2009 21:09 > To: ade; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > I saw Leary perform 'No Cure for Cancer' live in a tiny club in the > West Village, thanks. > > Hicks is funny, but has since become deified to ridiculous degrees. > Also, Hicks had a tiresomely sanctimonious quality to his work which > made me enjoy it less than Leary's. > > My opinion. > > Alex in NYC > > PS: Soundgarden is, was, and e'er shall be LIGHT YEARS better than > STP. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ade > Sent: Jan 30, 2009 3:30 PM > To: Alex Smith , "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" > Subject: RE: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > I get the feeling you've not actually seen the material that I argue > (amongst many others) Leary > clearly ripped from Hicks. In that case, how can you pass judgement? > > I loved Leary's 'No Cure for Cancer', until I got into Hicks. I > couldn't believe I was hearing the > same jokes VERY DISTINCTIVE jokes being repeated right back at me - > that totally destroyed > No Cure for cancer for me. > > Keep your fingers in your ears, it's only my opinion. > -----Original Message----- > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net > ]On Behalf Of Alex Smith > Sent: 30 January 2009 18:38 > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about > all things Killing Joke (the band!)' > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > The perils and ramifications of smoking aren't really "niche" > material. You may not like Dennis Leary -- fair enough -- but to > accuse him of ripping off Hicks in that capacity is pretty unfair. > > Alex in NYC > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brendan Quinn > Sent: Jan 30, 2009 12:46 PM > To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > We were comparing them because they covered similar material, that > I?m pretty sure Hicks came up with and Leary stole. Specifically the > voicebox gag. I could be wrong, but that?s the accusation. > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net > ] On Behalf Of Alex Smith > Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 03:59 > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about > all things Killing Joke (the band!)' > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > You seem to be equating them merely on the fact that they're both > "angry" comedians. That's not much to go on. I mean, why not toss > Don Rickles into the mix too, then? > > Alex in NYC > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brendan Quinn > Sent: Jan 30, 2009 10:31 AM > To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > > > > > Not a fair comparison?because? > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net > ] On Behalf Of Alexander Smith > Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 23:15 > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > > Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks > was capable of being. I love both, but it's not really a fair > comparison. > > Alex in NYC > > > > On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote: > > > Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots > > If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=? > > Please show working. > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net > ] On Behalf Of ade > Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24 > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;) > > From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's > transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is > Denis Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because > there's no cure for cancer"' > -----Original Message----- > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net > ]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn > Sent: 29 January 2009 04:57 > To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > The only other comedians I?d put in that category (and none as good > as Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who?s a > surprising find actually. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8 > > PS: I haven?t watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but > from memory it?s pretty cool. > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net > ] On Behalf Of Bette Dillinger > Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34 > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > > Hey everyone! > Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it. In the > US David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST > the routine of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994 > because it was considered too "controversial". The routine that > sullied his relationship with the media to a degree. > > His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal > executor of the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but > then you can't make this shit up.)......... > Damn, it has been 14 years! Are there any comedians that are flying > under the radar that should be checked out? I am still looking for > one whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour. > > Bette > size=2 width="100%" align=center> > Windows Live?: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. 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URL: From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Sun Feb 1 19:59:15 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:59:15 +1300 (NZDT) Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks In-Reply-To: <41355979-E94D-4192-B4E6-5181DDA98E80@earthlink.net> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072375@mr-pants.the-lab.local> <032EF75ADBE84DA68881A6F6BC61F69B@Soundgardener> <15BBA1D3A2C4464188BDC72B9D949E31@Soundgardener> <002601c984cc$ce2759d0$6a760d70$@com> <41355979-E94D-4192-B4E6-5181DDA98E80@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <29607.203.210.68.145.1233536355.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> You'll need half a pound of hash, a hot summer's day and several trips in order to make that test scientific. > > Inspired by all this, I've ripped both HATE RANTS IN E-MINOR by Bill > Hicks and NO CURE FOR CANCER by Denis Leary onto my iTunes/iPod. Will > listen to both in their respective entireties this week for a decent > re-appraisal. > > Alex in NYC > > > > On Feb 1, 2009, at 7:25 PM, Darren A. Peace wrote: > >> I think my favourite Aristophanes line is about how rain is God >> pissing through a sieve. Either from "Frogs" or "Clouds", can't >> remember which. >> >> And I'm thankful that the "comedy is the new rock & roll" nonsense >> was euthanised. Horrible idea, aggravated by working a while back >> with a Jongleurs zombie who insisted on using the phrase >> "observational comedy" in every sentence and then explaining what it >> means, as though I were both 7 and unable to speak English. Still, >> he liked the Steve Miller band, and I got him to go to a non-fancy >> dress board meeting dressed as Roy "Chubby" Brown, so all ended well. >> >> Like Hicks (mainly for religious diatribes rather than right-on >> boredom), think Leary is a weasel-faced also-ran who made the grave >> mistake of involving himself in that appalling fireman TV series. Meh. >> >> Darren >> Hungerford, UK >> >> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net >> ] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn >> Sent: 31 January 2009 09:25 >> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks >> >> I think people taking comedy seriously has something to do with the >> ancient role of the court jester, poking fun at the King etc. Like >> Jaz & BPF mentioned in that brief interview that went around a while >> ago. We expect them to amuse us, but there?s also that angle of >> social critique. Challenging values and challenging authority. With >> the better comedians that is you?re not really gonna get it from >> Larry the Cable Guy, or Seinfeld (but you *might* from Larry David). >> Christ if I remember back far enough (Classical Studies at school in >> ?91) there was a Greek slave comic playwright who took the piss out >> of those in power, Aristophanes and even though he was a slave who >> viciously & publicly ridiculed those in power, he got away with it >> because he did it with great humour. It?s hard to feel outrage about >> something when an entire auditorium is cracking up about it... >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristophanes >> >> So elevating a comic who challenges the status quo to heroic >> proportions isn?t anything new. >> >> Hicks always said he attacked things that offended his sense of >> reason, and after hearing that and going back over his stuff, it?s >> quite a theme. Not that it?s anything unique in comedy. But the >> extent to which he?s worshipped, I stand by it - hence the staunch >> defence, 15+ years after the event. No one has ever made me laugh as >> hard and at the same time articulated a sense of outrage at the >> primitive state of civilisation. Basically take your peak >> experiences with whatever art or literature or whatever that has >> really elevated your consciousness, that?s how it felt for me, >> listening to Hicks for the first time. So yeah, he?s up there with >> Hendrix and Robert Anton Wilson and Soundgarden and my other heroes, >> but not because of some cult of personality or posthumous popularity. >> >> And I can forgive the bits where he goes over the top, to the same >> extent I forgive Jaz for the same. Seems to go hand in hand with >> ?being out there?. >> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net >> ] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn >> Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 19:44 >> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'; 'Alex Smith' >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks >> >> Oh no how?d we get into this? I thought I was raising an in joke >> between Ade and me re SG vs STP to a) illustrate how I felt about >> Hicks vs Leary, and b) make sure that it was taken light-heartedly >> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net >> ] On Behalf Of ade >> Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 08:40 >> To: Alex Smith; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks >> >> > PS: Soundgarden is, was, and e'er shall be LIGHT YEARS better than >> STP. >> >> I'm sure they are mate, but how do I *make* myself like Soundgarden >> & not like STP ? What I actually said was that I preferred STP is >> all. I'm supposed to be wrong, how? >> -----Original Message----- >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net >> ]On Behalf Of Alex Smith >> Sent: 30 January 2009 21:09 >> To: ade; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks >> I saw Leary perform 'No Cure for Cancer' live in a tiny club in the >> West Village, thanks. >> >> Hicks is funny, but has since become deified to ridiculous degrees. >> Also, Hicks had a tiresomely sanctimonious quality to his work which >> made me enjoy it less than Leary's. >> >> My opinion. >> >> Alex in NYC >> >> PS: Soundgarden is, was, and e'er shall be LIGHT YEARS better than >> STP. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ade >> Sent: Jan 30, 2009 3:30 PM >> To: Alex Smith , "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" >> Subject: RE: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks >> I get the feeling you've not actually seen the material that I argue >> (amongst many others) Leary >> clearly ripped from Hicks. In that case, how can you pass judgement? >> >> I loved Leary's 'No Cure for Cancer', until I got into Hicks. I >> couldn't believe I was hearing the >> same jokes VERY DISTINCTIVE jokes being repeated right back at me - >> that totally destroyed >> No Cure for cancer for me. >> >> Keep your fingers in your ears, it's only my opinion. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net >> ]On Behalf Of Alex Smith >> Sent: 30 January 2009 18:38 >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about >> all things Killing Joke (the band!)' >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks >> The perils and ramifications of smoking aren't really "niche" >> material. You may not like Dennis Leary -- fair enough -- but to >> accuse him of ripping off Hicks in that capacity is pretty unfair. >> >> Alex in NYC >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Brendan Quinn >> Sent: Jan 30, 2009 12:46 PM >> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks >> We were comparing them because they covered similar material, that >> I?m pretty sure Hicks came up with and Leary stole. Specifically the >> voicebox gag. I could be wrong, but that?s the accusation. >> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net >> ] On Behalf Of Alex Smith >> Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 03:59 >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about >> all things Killing Joke (the band!)' >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks >> >> You seem to be equating them merely on the fact that they're both >> "angry" comedians. That's not much to go on. I mean, why not toss >> Don Rickles into the mix too, then? >> >> Alex in NYC >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Brendan Quinn >> Sent: Jan 30, 2009 10:31 AM >> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks >> >> >> >> >> >> Not a fair comparison because? >> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net >> ] On Behalf Of Alexander Smith >> Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 23:15 >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks >> >> >> Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks >> was capable of being. I love both, but it's not really a fair >> comparison. >> >> Alex in NYC >> >> >> >> On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote: >> >> >> Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots >> >> If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=? >> >> Please show working. >> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net >> ] On Behalf Of ade >> Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24 >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks >> >> LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;) >> >> From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's >> transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is >> Denis Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because >> there's no cure for cancer"' >> -----Original Message----- >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net >> ]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn >> Sent: 29 January 2009 04:57 >> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks >> The only other comedians I?d put in that category (and none as good >> as Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who?s a >> surprising find actually. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8 >> >> PS: I haven?t watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but >> from memory it?s pretty cool. >> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net >> ] On Behalf Of Bette Dillinger >> Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34 >> To: gathering at misera.net >> Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks >> >> >> Hey everyone! >> Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it. In the >> US David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST >> the routine of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994 >> because it was considered too "controversial". The routine that >> sullied his relationship with the media to a degree. >> >> His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal >> executor of the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but >> then you can't make this shit up.)......... >> Damn, it has been 14 years! Are there any comedians that are flying >> under the radar that should be checked out? I am still looking for >> one whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour. >> >> Bette >> size=2 width="100%" align=center> >> Windows Live?: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. Check >> it out. >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From humanhybrid666 at gmail.com Mon Feb 2 01:28:34 2009 From: humanhybrid666 at gmail.com (bongo) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 19:28:34 +1300 Subject: [kj] OT : White Lies In-Reply-To: <002b01c984cc$dcbcb800$96362800$@com> References: <20090130041715.1FEBE928@resin15.mta.everyone.net> <002b01c984cc$dcbcb800$96362800$@com> Message-ID: sounds a bit like the Killers to me, moreso than Joy Division anyways.. nice tho =) . -- "due to a lack of trained trumpeters, the end of the world has been postponed indefinitely..." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pmdavies at gmail.com Mon Feb 2 05:10:19 2009 From: pmdavies at gmail.com (iPat) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 10:10:19 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT : White Lies In-Reply-To: <002b01c984cc$dcbcb800$96362800$@com> References: <20090130041715.1FEBE928@resin15.mta.everyone.net> <002b01c984cc$dcbcb800$96362800$@com> Message-ID: <1646350c0902020210o31bfaf70t73a99edd4a6169c5@mail.gmail.com> Comparison wise, you could also add British Sea Power into that group which have lasted longer in my playlist i'll give them a go though On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Darren A. Peace wrote: ..... > Wonder why reviews all mention Cope and Joy Division, but not early OMD, who > are a distinct influence? Realise I like every track on the album, and > wonder if I've heard a stronger debut in the last year, despite occasionally > awkward lyrics. > > > > And to clear up any confusion, I also very much like Editors and Interpol, From Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk Mon Feb 2 05:19:46 2009 From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk (Janean Lancaster) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 10:19:46 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales References: Message-ID: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DACE@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> True, but the excitement is gone. Having access to anything I want at my fingertips means the thought of going into town on a bus and buying a CD is no longer appealing. ________________________________ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of fluke fluke Sent: 30 January 2009 17:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales "I agree about missing the old days - sitting on a bus, poring over the artwork of the goodies in your bag on the journey home from the shops." I have some good news for you Janean. Buses still run. Shops still sell C.D.s There is nothing to stop you jumping on a bus, buying a C.D. and then looking at it on the bus on the way home, theres nothing at all to stop you doing that . There's no need to miss the old days . ________________________________ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:56:38 +0000 From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales li.EC_MsoNormal, .ExternalClass div.EC_MsoNormal {margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;} .ExternalClass a:link, .ExternalClass span.EC_MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;} .ExternalClass a:visited, .ExternalClass span.EC_MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;} .ExternalClass span.EC_EmailStyle17 {font-family:Arial;color:windowtext;} .ExternalClass span.EC_EmailStyle18 {font-family:Arial;color:navy;} @page Section1 {size:595.3pt 841.9pt;} .ExternalClass div.EC_Section1 {page:Section1;} That pretty much sums up how I feel about it too. I download in order to hear stuff, and my favourites are bought on CD. Only because I want to be able to re-rip at higher bitrates as my hard drives/ipods increase capacity. I've not paid for very many downloads. I agree about missing the old days - sitting on a bus, poring over the artwork of the goodies in your bag on the journey home from the shops. I too spend much more on gigs. If album downloads were lossless and included a nice PDF of artwork/lyrics/credits/whathaveyou that you could print off to get stuck into while listening to the music, I would be glad to see the back of CDs. And I would have so much more shelf space at home. ________________________________ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 30 January 2009 15:28 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales Do we have many people who work in the music industry on the list? I wanted to voice an opinion about the decline in CD sales. I read these articles all the time, on tech sites and general news, about the *terrible* decline in CD sales revenue and how it's affecting Sony and Time Warner and Geffen and all the other music companies. And then I get into the comments section, and the thing that strikes me is...people seem to take the problem seriously. But I can't really see a problem? Haven't we all been bitching about record companies since the day dot? Artists and consumers alike? Aren't they the toll-booth between legitimate artists and people who would benefit from their art? Don't they artificially ratchet up the prices to consumers and down the prices to the artists, didn't they charge more for CDs than cassettes despite cassettes costing more to make (50% premium is the price I remember paying in the late 80s / early 90s in NZ, $30+ vs $20). Don't they develop these shit Britney Spears and boy bands that have no artistic merit whatsoever and pollute our youth with mediocrity and perpetuate these negative stereotypes? Didn't we have to pay a small fortune to change the media format of our collections from records or cassettes to CDs, despite having - surely, already purchased the rights to the content? Why are they complaining that we're getting a free ride in the current conversion? Haven't the artists been complaining about being ass-raped by these guys ever since Motown records, or before? Okay, so piracy is illegal, a whole generation is getting stuff for free and artists are losing out. But are they really? Are they artists that tour? Because while my CD spend has all but dried up to a flaccid husk of its previous self, my gig spend has at least compensated, probably moreso, esp considering I have more disposable cash than when I was a destitute student and buying CDs. And if it's a tough 5-10+ year transition into the digital age...well if we do away with the record company tax / toll-booth that sits in between artists and their audience - who cares? What did these guys do anyway? Did they scout talent that now won't come to light? Ever heard of the internet? If I can hear about fucking ThumbMan (which admittedly brightened my life for a good 45 seconds), then I'm pretty sure I'll her about the next Radiohead without Subpop telling me all about it. To me the main loss is the kids who are getting all this music for free and therefore fail to appreciate what it's like to work a shit job and save up for a few weeks to get the latest Led Zep or to flesh out their Sabbath collection, walk home with a record burning a hole in their bag, and then listen to it the whole way through while looking at the artwork and smoking some oregano their mates sold them as hash and having the single best day of their lives until the lose their virginity, but I digress.... People losing jobs isn't nice to see, but that's a whole different debate. ________________________________ Beyond Hotmail - see what else you can do with Windows Live Find out more! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Mon Feb 2 06:37:50 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 22:37:50 +1100 Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks In-Reply-To: <29607.203.210.68.145.1233536355.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072375@mr-pants.the-lab.local> <032EF75ADBE84DA68881A6F6BC61F69B@Soundgardener><15BBA1D3A2C4464188BDC72B9D949E31@Soundgardener><002601c984cc$ce2759d0$6a760d70$@com><41355979-E94D-4192-B4E6-5181DDA98E80@earthlink.net> <29607.203.210.68.145.1233536355.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <4BF24AEBFA124BD99289600597AC7D91@Soundgardener> http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&v=Kpmb0SYRGhE Wow...Superletterman actually had the balls to apologise and question his own actions in cutting Bill. And be honest about it being him who did it. Hate it when people do that atonement shit and make it harder to be pissed off at them. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Sent: Monday, 2 February 2009 11:59 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks You'll need half a pound of hash, a hot summer's day and several trips in order to make that test scientific. > > Inspired by all this, I've ripped both HATE RANTS IN E-MINOR by Bill > Hicks and NO CURE FOR CANCER by Denis Leary onto my iTunes/iPod. Will > listen to both in their respective entireties this week for a decent > re-appraisal. > > Alex in NYC > > > > On Feb 1, 2009, at 7:25 PM, Darren A. Peace wrote: > >> I think my favourite Aristophanes line is about how rain is God >> pissing through a sieve. Either from "Frogs" or "Clouds", can't >> remember which. >> >> And I'm thankful that the "comedy is the new rock & roll" nonsense >> was euthanised. Horrible idea, aggravated by working a while back >> with a Jongleurs zombie who insisted on using the phrase >> "observational comedy" in every sentence and then explaining what it >> means, as though I were both 7 and unable to speak English. Still, >> he liked the Steve Miller band, and I got him to go to a non-fancy >> dress board meeting dressed as Roy "Chubby" Brown, so all ended well. >> >> Like Hicks (mainly for religious diatribes rather than right-on >> boredom), think Leary is a weasel-faced also-ran who made the grave >> mistake of involving himself in that appalling fireman TV series. Meh. >> >> Darren >> Hungerford, UK >> >> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net >> ] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn >> Sent: 31 January 2009 09:25 >> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks >> >> I think people taking comedy seriously has something to do with the >> ancient role of the court jester, poking fun at the King etc. Like >> Jaz & BPF mentioned in that brief interview that went around a while >> ago. We expect them to amuse us, but there's also that angle of >> social critique. Challenging values and challenging authority. With >> the better comedians that is.you're not really gonna get it from >> Larry the Cable Guy, or Seinfeld (but you *might* from Larry David). >> Christ if I remember back far enough (Classical Studies at school in >> '91) there was a Greek slave comic playwright who took the piss out >> of those in power, Aristophanes.and even though he was a slave who >> viciously & publicly ridiculed those in power, he got away with it >> because he did it with great humour. It's hard to feel outrage about >> something when an entire auditorium is cracking up about it... >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristophanes >> >> So elevating a comic who challenges the status quo to heroic >> proportions isn't anything new. >> >> Hicks always said he attacked things that offended his sense of >> reason, and after hearing that and going back over his stuff, it's >> quite a theme. Not that it's anything unique in comedy. But the >> extent to which he's worshipped, I stand by it - hence the staunch >> defence, 15+ years after the event. No one has ever made me laugh as >> hard and at the same time articulated a sense of outrage at the >> primitive state of civilisation. Basically take your peak >> experiences with whatever art or literature or whatever that has >> really elevated your consciousness, that's how it felt for me, >> listening to Hicks for the first time. So yeah, he's up there with >> Hendrix and Robert Anton Wilson and Soundgarden and my other heroes, >> but not because of some cult of personality or posthumous popularity. >> >> And I can forgive the bits where he goes over the top, to the same >> extent I forgive Jaz for the same. Seems to go hand in hand with >> 'being out there'. >> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net >> ] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn >> Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 19:44 >> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'; 'Alex Smith' >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks >> >> Oh no how'd we get into this? I thought I was raising an in joke >> between Ade and me re SG vs STP to a) illustrate how I felt about >> Hicks vs Leary, and b) make sure that it was taken light-heartedly. >> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net >> ] On Behalf Of ade >> Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 08:40 >> To: Alex Smith; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks >> >> > PS: Soundgarden is, was, and e'er shall be LIGHT YEARS better than >> STP. >> >> I'm sure they are mate, but how do I *make* myself like Soundgarden >> & not like STP ? What I actually said was that I preferred STP is >> all. I'm supposed to be wrong, how? >> -----Original Message----- >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net >> ]On Behalf Of Alex Smith >> Sent: 30 January 2009 21:09 >> To: ade; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks >> I saw Leary perform 'No Cure for Cancer' live in a tiny club in the >> West Village, thanks. >> >> Hicks is funny, but has since become deified to ridiculous degrees. >> Also, Hicks had a tiresomely sanctimonious quality to his work which >> made me enjoy it less than Leary's. >> >> My opinion. >> >> Alex in NYC >> >> PS: Soundgarden is, was, and e'er shall be LIGHT YEARS better than >> STP. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ade >> Sent: Jan 30, 2009 3:30 PM >> To: Alex Smith , "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" >> Subject: RE: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks >> I get the feeling you've not actually seen the material that I argue >> (amongst many others) Leary >> clearly ripped from Hicks. In that case, how can you pass judgement? >> >> I loved Leary's 'No Cure for Cancer', until I got into Hicks. I >> couldn't believe I was hearing the >> same jokes VERY DISTINCTIVE jokes being repeated right back at me - >> that totally destroyed >> No Cure for cancer for me. >> >> Keep your fingers in your ears, it's only my opinion. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net >> ]On Behalf Of Alex Smith >> Sent: 30 January 2009 18:38 >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about >> all things Killing Joke (the band!)' >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks >> The perils and ramifications of smoking aren't really "niche" >> material. You may not like Dennis Leary -- fair enough -- but to >> accuse him of ripping off Hicks in that capacity is pretty unfair. >> >> Alex in NYC >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Brendan Quinn >> Sent: Jan 30, 2009 12:46 PM >> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks >> We were comparing them because they covered similar material, that >> I'm pretty sure Hicks came up with and Leary stole. Specifically the >> voicebox gag. I could be wrong, but that's the accusation. >> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net >> ] On Behalf Of Alex Smith >> Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 03:59 >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about >> all things Killing Joke (the band!)' >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks >> >> You seem to be equating them merely on the fact that they're both >> "angry" comedians. That's not much to go on. I mean, why not toss >> Don Rickles into the mix too, then? >> >> Alex in NYC >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Brendan Quinn >> Sent: Jan 30, 2009 10:31 AM >> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks >> >> >> >> >> >> Not a fair comparison.because? >> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net >> ] On Behalf Of Alexander Smith >> Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 23:15 >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks >> >> >> Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks >> was capable of being. I love both, but it's not really a fair >> comparison. >> >> Alex in NYC >> >> >> >> On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote: >> >> >> Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots >> >> If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=? >> >> Please show working. >> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net >> ] On Behalf Of ade >> Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24 >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks >> >> LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;) >> >> From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's >> transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is >> Denis Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because >> there's no cure for cancer"' >> -----Original Message----- >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net >> ]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn >> Sent: 29 January 2009 04:57 >> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks >> The only other comedians I'd put in that category (and none as good >> as Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who's a >> surprising find actually. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8 >> >> PS: I haven't watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but >> from memory it's pretty cool. >> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net >> ] On Behalf Of Bette Dillinger >> Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34 >> To: gathering at misera.net >> Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks >> >> >> Hey everyone! >> Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it. In the >> US David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST >> the routine of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994 >> because it was considered too "controversial". The routine that >> sullied his relationship with the media to a degree. >> >> His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal >> executor of the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but >> then you can't make this shit up.)......... >> Damn, it has been 14 years! Are there any comedians that are flying >> under the radar that should be checked out? I am still looking for >> one whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour. >> >> Bette >> size=2 width="100%" align=center> >> Windows LiveT: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. Check >> it out. >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From npscott at blueyonder.co.uk Mon Feb 2 07:19:21 2009 From: npscott at blueyonder.co.uk (Termite) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:19:21 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales In-Reply-To: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DACE@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> References: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DACE@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> Message-ID: <2735CB2631EC4717B703AF3691B8CEF4@NickScottPC> This has touched a cord with me too :-( The delightful time of being young having Vinyl to mull over the sleeve artwork the lyrics first went, then just like yourself the joy of eagerly going into town to buy a CD mulling over the contents on the way home on the bus has now gone. Whilst still able to do that as fluke has mentioned, we also have to remember High St retail is ont he decline, I prefer myself now to buy a CD online where it can be 1/3rd cheaper with free delivery and I dont have to think about fuel costs. ----- Original Message ----- From: Janean Lancaster To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales True, but the excitement is gone. Having access to anything I want at my fingertips means the thought of going into town on a bus and buying a CD is no longer appealing. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of fluke fluke Sent: 30 January 2009 17:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales "I agree about missing the old days - sitting on a bus, poring over the artwork of the goodies in your bag on the journey home from the shops." I have some good news for you Janean. Buses still run. Shops still sell C.D.s There is nothing to stop you jumping on a bus, buying a C.D. and then looking at it on the bus on the way home, theres nothing at all to stop you doing that . There's no need to miss the old days . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:56:38 +0000 From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales li.EC_MsoNormal, .ExternalClass div.EC_MsoNormal {margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;} .ExternalClass a:link, .ExternalClass span.EC_MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;} .ExternalClass a:visited, .ExternalClass span.EC_MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;} .ExternalClass span.EC_EmailStyle17 {font-family:Arial;color:windowtext;} .ExternalClass span.EC_EmailStyle18 {font-family:Arial;color:navy;} @page Section1 {size:595.3pt 841.9pt;} .ExternalClass div.EC_Section1 {page:Section1;} That pretty much sums up how I feel about it too. I download in order to hear stuff, and my favourites are bought on CD. Only because I want to be able to re-rip at higher bitrates as my hard drives/ipods increase capacity. I've not paid for very many downloads. I agree about missing the old days - sitting on a bus, poring over the artwork of the goodies in your bag on the journey home from the shops. I too spend much more on gigs. If album downloads were lossless and included a nice PDF of artwork/lyrics/credits/whathaveyou that you could print off to get stuck into while listening to the music, I would be glad to see the back of CDs. And I would have so much more shelf space at home. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 30 January 2009 15:28 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales Do we have many people who work in the music industry on the list? I wanted to voice an opinion about the decline in CD sales. I read these articles all the time, on tech sites and general news, about the *terrible* decline in CD sales revenue and how it's affecting Sony and Time Warner and Geffen and all the other music companies. And then I get into the comments section, and the thing that strikes me is.people seem to take the problem seriously. But I can't really see a problem? Haven't we all been bitching about record companies since the day dot? Artists and consumers alike? Aren't they the toll-booth between legitimate artists and people who would benefit from their art? Don't they artificially ratchet up the prices to consumers and down the prices to the artists, didn't they charge more for CDs than cassettes despite cassettes costing more to make (50% premium is the price I remember paying in the late 80s / early 90s in NZ, $30+ vs $20). Don't they develop these shit Britney Spears and boy bands that have no artistic merit whatsoever and pollute our youth with mediocrity and perpetuate these negative stereotypes? Didn't we have to pay a small fortune to change the media format of our collections from records or cassettes to CDs, despite having - surely, already purchased the rights to the content? Why are they complaining that we're getting a free ride in the current conversion? Haven't the artists been complaining about being ass-raped by these guys ever since Motown records, or before? Okay, so piracy is illegal, a whole generation is getting stuff for free and artists are losing out. But are they really? Are they artists that tour? Because while my CD spend has all but dried up to a flaccid husk of its previous self, my gig spend has at least compensated, probably moreso, esp considering I have more disposable cash than when I was a destitute student and buying CDs. And if it's a tough 5-10+ year transition into the digital age.well if we do away with the record company tax / toll-booth that sits in between artists and their audience - who cares? What did these guys do anyway? Did they scout talent that now won't come to light? Ever heard of the internet? If I can hear about fucking ThumbMan (which admittedly brightened my life for a good 45 seconds), then I'm pretty sure I'll her about the next Radiohead without Subpop telling me all about it. To me the main loss is the kids who are getting all this music for free and therefore fail to appreciate what it's like to work a shit job and save up for a few weeks to get the latest Led Zep or to flesh out their Sabbath collection, walk home with a record burning a hole in their bag, and then listen to it the whole way through while looking at the artwork and smoking some oregano their mates sold them as hash and having the single best day of their lives until the lose their virginity, but I digress.. People losing jobs isn't nice to see, but that's a whole different debate. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Beyond Hotmail - see what else you can do with Windows Live Find out more! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Mon Feb 2 07:21:38 2009 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:21:38 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09711A@mr-pants.the-lab.local> I wonder if it's just part of getting older? -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Termite Sent: 02 February 2009 12:19 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales This has touched a cord with me too :-( The delightful time of being young having Vinyl to mull over the sleeve artwork the lyrics first went, then just like yourself the joy of eagerly going into town to buy a CD mulling over the contents on the way home on the bus has now gone. Whilst still able to do that as fluke has mentioned, we also have to remember High St retail is ont he decline, I prefer myself now to buy a CD online where it can be 1/3rd cheaper with free delivery and I dont have to think about fuel costs. ----- Original Message ----- From: Janean Lancaster To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales True, but the excitement is gone. Having access to anything I want at my fingertips means the thought of going into town on a bus and buying a CD is no longer appealing. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of fluke fluke Sent: 30 January 2009 17:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales "I agree about missing the old days - sitting on a bus, poring over the artwork of the goodies in your bag on the journey home from the shops." I have some good news for you Janean. Buses still run. Shops still sell C.D.s There is nothing to stop you jumping on a bus, buying a C.D. and then looking at it on the bus on the way home, theres nothing at all to stop you doing that . There's no need to miss the old days . _____ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:56:38 +0000 From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales li.EC_MsoNormal, .ExternalClass div.EC_MsoNormal {margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;} .ExternalClass a:link, .ExternalClass span.EC_MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;} .ExternalClass a:visited, .ExternalClass span.EC_MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;} .ExternalClass span.EC_EmailStyle17 {font-family:Arial;color:windowtext;} .ExternalClass span.EC_EmailStyle18 {font-family:Arial;color:navy;} @page Section1 {size:595.3pt 841.9pt;} .ExternalClass div.EC_Section1 {page:Section1;} That pretty much sums up how I feel about it too. I download in order to hear stuff, and my favourites are bought on CD. Only because I want to be able to re-rip at higher bitrates as my hard drives/ipods increase capacity. I've not paid for very many downloads. I agree about missing the old days - sitting on a bus, poring over the artwork of the goodies in your bag on the journey home from the shops. I too spend much more on gigs. If album downloads were lossless and included a nice PDF of artwork/lyrics/credits/whathaveyou that you could print off to get stuck into while listening to the music, I would be glad to see the back of CDs. And I would have so much more shelf space at home. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 30 January 2009 15:28 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales Do we have many people who work in the music industry on the list? I wanted to voice an opinion about the decline in CD sales. I read these articles all the time, on tech sites and general news, about the *terrible* decline in CD sales revenue and how it's affecting Sony and Time Warner and Geffen and all the other music companies. And then I get into the comments section, and the thing that strikes me is...people seem to take the problem seriously. But I can't really see a problem? Haven't we all been bitching about record companies since the day dot? Artists and consumers alike? Aren't they the toll-booth between legitimate artists and people who would benefit from their art? Don't they artificially ratchet up the prices to consumers and down the prices to the artists, didn't they charge more for CDs than cassettes despite cassettes costing more to make (50% premium is the price I remember paying in the late 80s / early 90s in NZ, $30+ vs $20). Don't they develop these shit Britney Spears and boy bands that have no artistic merit whatsoever and pollute our youth with mediocrity and perpetuate these negative stereotypes? Didn't we have to pay a small fortune to change the media format of our collections from records or cassettes to CDs, despite having - surely, already purchased the rights to the content? Why are they complaining that we're getting a free ride in the current conversion? Haven't the artists been complaining about being ass-raped by these guys ever since Motown records, or before? Okay, so piracy is illegal, a whole generation is getting stuff for free and artists are losing out. But are they really? Are they artists that tour? Because while my CD spend has all but dried up to a flaccid husk of its previous self, my gig spend has at least compensated, probably moreso, esp considering I have more disposable cash than when I was a destitute student and buying CDs. And if it's a tough 5-10+ year transition into the digital age...well if we do away with the record company tax / toll-booth that sits in between artists and their audience - who cares? What did these guys do anyway? Did they scout talent that now won't come to light? Ever heard of the internet? If I can hear about fucking ThumbMan (which admittedly brightened my life for a good 45 seconds), then I'm pretty sure I'll her about the next Radiohead without Subpop telling me all about it. To me the main loss is the kids who are getting all this music for free and therefore fail to appreciate what it's like to work a shit job and save up for a few weeks to get the latest Led Zep or to flesh out their Sabbath collection, walk home with a record burning a hole in their bag, and then listen to it the whole way through while looking at the artwork and smoking some oregano their mates sold them as hash and having the single best day of their lives until the lose their virginity, but I digress.... People losing jobs isn't nice to see, but that's a whole different debate. _____ Beyond Hotmail - see what else you can do with Windows Live Find out more! _____ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com Mon Feb 2 07:23:49 2009 From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:23:49 +0100 Subject: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales In-Reply-To: <2735CB2631EC4717B703AF3691B8CEF4@NickScottPC> References: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DACE@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> <2735CB2631EC4717B703AF3691B8CEF4@NickScottPC> Message-ID: Fun fact (if anyone gives a fuck about it) is that in 2008, vinyl sales increased by 70% here in Denmark. There's a certain duality between listening to crappy mp3's on a Nokia phone to and from work, and then being a vinyl snob when i come home. I bet Freud had something to say about that. From bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com Mon Feb 2 07:25:16 2009 From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:25:16 +0100 Subject: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09711A@mr-pants.the-lab.local> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09711A@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: On 2/2/09, ade wrote: > I wonder if it's just part of getting older? You ARE old, badboy! :) b From npscott at blueyonder.co.uk Mon Feb 2 07:26:39 2009 From: npscott at blueyonder.co.uk (Termite) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:26:39 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09711A@mr-pants.the-lab.local> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09711A@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: I think its a mixture of both Ade to be honest, you tend to "obsess" more over things when younger I think. I certainly for one did. ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales I wonder if it's just part of getting older? -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Termite Sent: 02 February 2009 12:19 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales This has touched a cord with me too :-( The delightful time of being young having Vinyl to mull over the sleeve artwork the lyrics first went, then just like yourself the joy of eagerly going into town to buy a CD mulling over the contents on the way home on the bus has now gone. Whilst still able to do that as fluke has mentioned, we also have to remember High St retail is ont he decline, I prefer myself now to buy a CD online where it can be 1/3rd cheaper with free delivery and I dont have to think about fuel costs. ----- Original Message ----- From: Janean Lancaster To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales True, but the excitement is gone. Having access to anything I want at my fingertips means the thought of going into town on a bus and buying a CD is no longer appealing. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of fluke fluke Sent: 30 January 2009 17:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales "I agree about missing the old days - sitting on a bus, poring over the artwork of the goodies in your bag on the journey home from the shops." I have some good news for you Janean. Buses still run. Shops still sell C.D.s There is nothing to stop you jumping on a bus, buying a C.D. and then looking at it on the bus on the way home, theres nothing at all to stop you doing that . There's no need to miss the old days . -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:56:38 +0000 From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales li.EC_MsoNormal, .ExternalClass div.EC_MsoNormal {margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;} .ExternalClass a:link, .ExternalClass span.EC_MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;} .ExternalClass a:visited, .ExternalClass span.EC_MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;} .ExternalClass span.EC_EmailStyle17 {font-family:Arial;color:windowtext;} .ExternalClass span.EC_EmailStyle18 {font-family:Arial;color:navy;} @page Section1 {size:595.3pt 841.9pt;} .ExternalClass div.EC_Section1 {page:Section1;} That pretty much sums up how I feel about it too. I download in order to hear stuff, and my favourites are bought on CD. Only because I want to be able to re-rip at higher bitrates as my hard drives/ipods increase capacity. I've not paid for very many downloads. I agree about missing the old days - sitting on a bus, poring over the artwork of the goodies in your bag on the journey home from the shops. I too spend much more on gigs. If album downloads were lossless and included a nice PDF of artwork/lyrics/credits/whathaveyou that you could print off to get stuck into while listening to the music, I would be glad to see the back of CDs. And I would have so much more shelf space at home. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 30 January 2009 15:28 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales Do we have many people who work in the music industry on the list? I wanted to voice an opinion about the decline in CD sales. I read these articles all the time, on tech sites and general news, about the *terrible* decline in CD sales revenue and how it's affecting Sony and Time Warner and Geffen and all the other music companies. And then I get into the comments section, and the thing that strikes me is...people seem to take the problem seriously. But I can't really see a problem? Haven't we all been bitching about record companies since the day dot? Artists and consumers alike? Aren't they the toll-booth between legitimate artists and people who would benefit from their art? Don't they artificially ratchet up the prices to consumers and down the prices to the artists, didn't they charge more for CDs than cassettes despite cassettes costing more to make (50% premium is the price I remember paying in the late 80s / early 90s in NZ, $30+ vs $20). Don't they develop these shit Britney Spears and boy bands that have no artistic merit whatsoever and pollute our youth with mediocrity and perpetuate these negative stereotypes? Didn't we have to pay a small fortune to change the media format of our collections from records or cassettes to CDs, despite having - surely, already purchased the rights to the content? Why are they complaining that we're getting a free ride in the current conversion? Haven't the artists been complaining about being ass-raped by these guys ever since Motown records, or before? Okay, so piracy is illegal, a whole generation is getting stuff for free and artists are losing out. But are they really? Are they artists that tour? Because while my CD spend has all but dried up to a flaccid husk of its previous self, my gig spend has at least compensated, probably moreso, esp considering I have more disposable cash than when I was a destitute student and buying CDs. And if it's a tough 5-10+ year transition into the digital age...well if we do away with the record company tax / toll-booth that sits in between artists and their audience - who cares? What did these guys do anyway? Did they scout talent that now won't come to light? Ever heard of the internet? If I can hear about fucking ThumbMan (which admittedly brightened my life for a good 45 seconds), then I'm pretty sure I'll her about the next Radiohead without Subpop telling me all about it. To me the main loss is the kids who are getting all this music for free and therefore fail to appreciate what it's like to work a shit job and save up for a few weeks to get the latest Led Zep or to flesh out their Sabbath collection, walk home with a record burning a hole in their bag, and then listen to it the whole way through while looking at the artwork and smoking some oregano their mates sold them as hash and having the single best day of their lives until the lose their virginity, but I digress.... 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URL: From bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com Mon Feb 2 07:32:13 2009 From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:32:13 +0100 Subject: [kj] (totally OT) Train schedules Message-ID: Any of you fine gentle(wo)men who can point me to the fastest way to get from Oxford to Bicester and back? If you're in the neighbourhood i'd even offer a beer for some good advice :) b From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Mon Feb 2 07:40:07 2009 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:40:07 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09711B@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Yeah, spot-on. At one time carrying a bag full of old Bauhaus vinyl was a trip, finding that mint condition 12" copy of JD's Transmission caused palpitations, but now I have numerous bills to pay & blah blah blah... 'life' has taken over! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Termite Sent: 02 February 2009 12:27 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales I think its a mixture of both Ade to be honest, you tend to "obsess" more over things when younger I think. I certainly for one did. ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales I wonder if it's just part of getting older? -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Termite Sent: 02 February 2009 12:19 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales This has touched a cord with me too :-( The delightful time of being young having Vinyl to mull over the sleeve artwork the lyrics first went, then just like yourself the joy of eagerly going into town to buy a CD mulling over the contents on the way home on the bus has now gone. Whilst still able to do that as fluke has mentioned, we also have to remember High St retail is ont he decline, I prefer myself now to buy a CD online where it can be 1/3rd cheaper with free delivery and I dont have to think about fuel costs. ----- Original Message ----- From: Janean Lancaster To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales True, but the excitement is gone. Having access to anything I want at my fingertips means the thought of going into town on a bus and buying a CD is no longer appealing. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of fluke fluke Sent: 30 January 2009 17:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales "I agree about missing the old days - sitting on a bus, poring over the artwork of the goodies in your bag on the journey home from the shops." I have some good news for you Janean. Buses still run. Shops still sell C.D.s There is nothing to stop you jumping on a bus, buying a C.D. and then looking at it on the bus on the way home, theres nothing at all to stop you doing that . There's no need to miss the old days . _____ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:56:38 +0000 From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales li.EC_MsoNormal, .ExternalClass div.EC_MsoNormal {margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;} .ExternalClass a:link, .ExternalClass span.EC_MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;} .ExternalClass a:visited, .ExternalClass span.EC_MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;} .ExternalClass span.EC_EmailStyle17 {font-family:Arial;color:windowtext;} .ExternalClass span.EC_EmailStyle18 {font-family:Arial;color:navy;} @page Section1 {size:595.3pt 841.9pt;} .ExternalClass div.EC_Section1 {page:Section1;} That pretty much sums up how I feel about it too. I download in order to hear stuff, and my favourites are bought on CD. Only because I want to be able to re-rip at higher bitrates as my hard drives/ipods increase capacity. I've not paid for very many downloads. I agree about missing the old days - sitting on a bus, poring over the artwork of the goodies in your bag on the journey home from the shops. I too spend much more on gigs. If album downloads were lossless and included a nice PDF of artwork/lyrics/credits/whathaveyou that you could print off to get stuck into while listening to the music, I would be glad to see the back of CDs. And I would have so much more shelf space at home. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 30 January 2009 15:28 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales Do we have many people who work in the music industry on the list? I wanted to voice an opinion about the decline in CD sales. I read these articles all the time, on tech sites and general news, about the *terrible* decline in CD sales revenue and how it's affecting Sony and Time Warner and Geffen and all the other music companies. And then I get into the comments section, and the thing that strikes me is...people seem to take the problem seriously. But I can't really see a problem? Haven't we all been bitching about record companies since the day dot? Artists and consumers alike? Aren't they the toll-booth between legitimate artists and people who would benefit from their art? Don't they artificially ratchet up the prices to consumers and down the prices to the artists, didn't they charge more for CDs than cassettes despite cassettes costing more to make (50% premium is the price I remember paying in the late 80s / early 90s in NZ, $30+ vs $20). Don't they develop these shit Britney Spears and boy bands that have no artistic merit whatsoever and pollute our youth with mediocrity and perpetuate these negative stereotypes? Didn't we have to pay a small fortune to change the media format of our collections from records or cassettes to CDs, despite having - surely, already purchased the rights to the content? Why are they complaining that we're getting a free ride in the current conversion? Haven't the artists been complaining about being ass-raped by these guys ever since Motown records, or before? Okay, so piracy is illegal, a whole generation is getting stuff for free and artists are losing out. But are they really? Are they artists that tour? Because while my CD spend has all but dried up to a flaccid husk of its previous self, my gig spend has at least compensated, probably moreso, esp considering I have more disposable cash than when I was a destitute student and buying CDs. And if it's a tough 5-10+ year transition into the digital age...well if we do away with the record company tax / toll-booth that sits in between artists and their audience - who cares? What did these guys do anyway? Did they scout talent that now won't come to light? Ever heard of the internet? If I can hear about fucking ThumbMan (which admittedly brightened my life for a good 45 seconds), then I'm pretty sure I'll her about the next Radiohead without Subpop telling me all about it. To me the main loss is the kids who are getting all this music for free and therefore fail to appreciate what it's like to work a shit job and save up for a few weeks to get the latest Led Zep or to flesh out their Sabbath collection, walk home with a record burning a hole in their bag, and then listen to it the whole way through while looking at the artwork and smoking some oregano their mates sold them as hash and having the single best day of their lives until the lose their virginity, but I digress.... People losing jobs isn't nice to see, but that's a whole different debate. _____ Beyond Hotmail - see what else you can do with Windows Live Find out more! _____ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jerry at fleamusic.com Mon Feb 2 07:59:48 2009 From: jerry at fleamusic.com (Jerry Butson) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:59:48 +0000 Subject: [kj] (totally OT) Train schedules In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6bd06be20902020459i7426ad5em33712d837dbb37c8@mail.gmail.com> You're coming all this way to go to BICESTER? It all depends on when you're travelling but check thetrainline.com, you can put in your own dates/times and get a choice of trains. Alternatively i'll drive you there... jerry 2009/2/2 Bo Krogsgaard > Any of you fine gentle(wo)men who can point me to the fastest way to > get from Oxford to Bicester and back? > > If you're in the neighbourhood i'd even offer a beer for some good advice > :) > > > b > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > -- fleamusic p.o. box 70 witney oxfordshire ox29 4ga u.k. tel/fax: +44 (0) 1865 881859; cell +44 (0) 7939 228435 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pmdavies at gmail.com Mon Feb 2 08:15:31 2009 From: pmdavies at gmail.com (iPat) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:15:31 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09711B@mr-pants.the-lab.local> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09711B@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: <1646350c0902020515k1e1a718eu91d3fcbb6aa2d8b9@mail.gmail.com> i go to the city centre independent record shop and spend a while in it, speaking to the staff that i have known for upto 28 years. They can point me to recommendations, talk about the families, any gigs coming up,....chew the fat. Cant do that in a zaavi or hmv. Where's your local independent? On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 12:40 PM, ade wrote: > Yeah, spot-on. At one time carrying a bag full of old Bauhaus vinyl was a > trip, finding that mint condition 12" copy of JD's Transmission caused > palpitations, but now I have numerous bills to pay & blah blah blah... > 'life' has taken over! From dpeace at bigfoot.com Mon Feb 2 08:20:19 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:20:19 -0000 Subject: [kj] (totally OT) Train schedules In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <009c01c98539$00d5ee20$0281ca60$@com> Hi Bo. I'm sure others have replied, but JIC: www.nationalrail.co.uk Oxford to Bicester Town seems to run about every 2 hours, and takes 21 minutes, with one stop at Islip. Darren Hungerford, UK From bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com Mon Feb 2 08:24:08 2009 From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 14:24:08 +0100 Subject: [kj] (totally OT) Train schedules In-Reply-To: <6bd06be20902020459i7426ad5em33712d837dbb37c8@mail.gmail.com> References: <6bd06be20902020459i7426ad5em33712d837dbb37c8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 2/2/09, Jerry Butson wrote: > You're coming all this way to go to BICESTER? Yeah well, a man's gotta do what a boy can't! Thanks for the link, and the beer offer is still on :) b From Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk Mon Feb 2 08:33:26 2009 From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk (Janean Lancaster) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:33:26 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09711A@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DAD4@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> I think I obsessed over things more when I was a teenager just because I had plenty more "me time", shut in my bedroom with records/posters/daydreams. I certainly can and do still get obsessive about things to some degree. ________________________________ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Termite Sent: 02 February 2009 12:27 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales I think its a mixture of both Ade to be honest, you tend to "obsess" more over things when younger I think. I certainly for one did. ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales I wonder if it's just part of getting older? -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Termite Sent: 02 February 2009 12:19 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales This has touched a cord with me too :-( The delightful time of being young having Vinyl to mull over the sleeve artwork the lyrics first went, then just like yourself the joy of eagerly going into town to buy a CD mulling over the contents on the way home on the bus has now gone. Whilst still able to do that as fluke has mentioned, we also have to remember High St retail is ont he decline, I prefer myself now to buy a CD online where it can be 1/3rd cheaper with free delivery and I dont have to think about fuel costs. ----- Original Message ----- From: Janean Lancaster To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales True, but the excitement is gone. Having access to anything I want at my fingertips means the thought of going into town on a bus and buying a CD is no longer appealing. ________________________________ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of fluke fluke Sent: 30 January 2009 17:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales "I agree about missing the old days - sitting on a bus, poring over the artwork of the goodies in your bag on the journey home from the shops." I have some good news for you Janean. Buses still run. Shops still sell C.D.s There is nothing to stop you jumping on a bus, buying a C.D. and then looking at it on the bus on the way home, theres nothing at all to stop you doing that . There's no need to miss the old days . ________________________________ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:56:38 +0000 From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales li.EC_MsoNormal, .ExternalClass div.EC_MsoNormal {margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;} .ExternalClass a:link, .ExternalClass span.EC_MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;} .ExternalClass a:visited, .ExternalClass span.EC_MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;} .ExternalClass span.EC_EmailStyle17 {font-family:Arial;color:windowtext;} .ExternalClass span.EC_EmailStyle18 {font-family:Arial;color:navy;} @page Section1 {size:595.3pt 841.9pt;} .ExternalClass div.EC_Section1 {page:Section1;} That pretty much sums up how I feel about it too. I download in order to hear stuff, and my favourites are bought on CD. Only because I want to be able to re-rip at higher bitrates as my hard drives/ipods increase capacity. I've not paid for very many downloads. I agree about missing the old days - sitting on a bus, poring over the artwork of the goodies in your bag on the journey home from the shops. I too spend much more on gigs. If album downloads were lossless and included a nice PDF of artwork/lyrics/credits/whathaveyou that you could print off to get stuck into while listening to the music, I would be glad to see the back of CDs. And I would have so much more shelf space at home. ________________________________ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 30 January 2009 15:28 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales Do we have many people who work in the music industry on the list? I wanted to voice an opinion about the decline in CD sales. I read these articles all the time, on tech sites and general news, about the *terrible* decline in CD sales revenue and how it's affecting Sony and Time Warner and Geffen and all the other music companies. And then I get into the comments section, and the thing that strikes me is...people seem to take the problem seriously. But I can't really see a problem? Haven't we all been bitching about record companies since the day dot? Artists and consumers alike? Aren't they the toll-booth between legitimate artists and people who would benefit from their art? Don't they artificially ratchet up the prices to consumers and down the prices to the artists, didn't they charge more for CDs than cassettes despite cassettes costing more to make (50% premium is the price I remember paying in the late 80s / early 90s in NZ, $30+ vs $20). Don't they develop these shit Britney Spears and boy bands that have no artistic merit whatsoever and pollute our youth with mediocrity and perpetuate these negative stereotypes? Didn't we have to pay a small fortune to change the media format of our collections from records or cassettes to CDs, despite having - surely, already purchased the rights to the content? Why are they complaining that we're getting a free ride in the current conversion? Haven't the artists been complaining about being ass-raped by these guys ever since Motown records, or before? Okay, so piracy is illegal, a whole generation is getting stuff for free and artists are losing out. But are they really? Are they artists that tour? Because while my CD spend has all but dried up to a flaccid husk of its previous self, my gig spend has at least compensated, probably moreso, esp considering I have more disposable cash than when I was a destitute student and buying CDs. And if it's a tough 5-10+ year transition into the digital age...well if we do away with the record company tax / toll-booth that sits in between artists and their audience - who cares? What did these guys do anyway? Did they scout talent that now won't come to light? Ever heard of the internet? If I can hear about fucking ThumbMan (which admittedly brightened my life for a good 45 seconds), then I'm pretty sure I'll her about the next Radiohead without Subpop telling me all about it. To me the main loss is the kids who are getting all this music for free and therefore fail to appreciate what it's like to work a shit job and save up for a few weeks to get the latest Led Zep or to flesh out their Sabbath collection, walk home with a record burning a hole in their bag, and then listen to it the whole way through while looking at the artwork and smoking some oregano their mates sold them as hash and having the single best day of their lives until the lose their virginity, but I digress.... 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Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales i go to the city centre independent record shop and spend a while in it, speaking to the staff that i have known for upto 28 years. They can point me to recommendations, talk about the families, any gigs coming up,....chew the fat. Cant do that in a zaavi or hmv. Where's your local independent? On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 12:40 PM, ade wrote: > Yeah, spot-on. At one time carrying a bag full of old Bauhaus vinyl was a > trip, finding that mint condition 12" copy of JD's Transmission caused > palpitations, but now I have numerous bills to pay & blah blah blah... > 'life' has taken over! _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From stronkle at hotmail.co.uk Mon Feb 2 08:41:18 2009 From: stronkle at hotmail.co.uk (Carlos Fandango) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:41:18 +0000 Subject: [kj] Tribute Message-ID: http://www.the12barswindon.com/get/gigs Saturday 9th May 2009 TRANSMISSION THE SOUND OF JOY DIVISION + 1000 Planets (KillingJoke Set) Devoted to recreating the atmosphere of a live Joy Division gig, Transmission emulate the sound of one of the most inventive, evocative and influential groups of their era. Joy Division were formed in the late 1970s and dissolved in May 1980 after the suicide of lead singer Ian Curtis. 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URL: From pmdavies at gmail.com Mon Feb 2 09:10:07 2009 From: pmdavies at gmail.com (iPat) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 14:10:07 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT: List of Independent Record Shops that give you that special feeling Message-ID: <1646350c0902020610k266bff7w72c4a39cda143544@mail.gmail.com> OK so to move this on why don't we list city/town and name of Independent Aberdeen 1UP records; Cavern records; both Belmont St iPat Swansea Derricks Records, Oxford St iPat Birmingham Swordfish Ade On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 1:33 PM, ade wrote: > I used to do that at the old second-hand record shops I frequented in my 20's, but they've closed or I don't go near them anymore in daily life. There's a few so-called independents in B'ham, but they've always been too 'hip' & scenesterish for me to be that interested. Swordfish I like though - I go in there most times I'm up B'ham. > > -----Original Message----- > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of iPat > > i go to the city centre independent record shop and spend a while in > it, speaking to the staff that i have known for upto 28 years. They > can point me to recommendations, talk about the families, any gigs > coming up,....chew the fat. > > Cant do that in a zaavi or hmv. Where's your local independent? > From 65snoopy at gmail.com Mon Feb 2 10:46:23 2009 From: 65snoopy at gmail.com (Neil Perry) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:46:23 +0100 Subject: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ Message-ID: Hello everyone and belated New Year greetings. What I want to know is, has anyone here ever, in the last two or even three decades, ever seen ZZ Top play? I was sat at the computer the other morning and girlfriend happens to mention that ZZ Top are playing here in Oslo. I didn't think much of it but then checked it out and they are playing a club, I guess it holds around 400 people. The tickets were going on sale that particular morning at 9am - I looked at the clock and it was 8.59, so WITHOUT THINKING I immediately went and bought a pair of tickets for um, cough, a moderately large amount of cash. (A day later, it was sold out.) What have I done? Should I be happy/excited? Someone reassure me, please... N -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fluke1 at live.co.uk Mon Feb 2 10:56:35 2009 From: fluke1 at live.co.uk (fluke fluke) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:56:35 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You should get rid of your Girlfriend . Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:46:23 +0100 From: 65snoopy at gmail.com To: gathering at misera.net Subject: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ Hello everyone and belated New Year greetings. What I want to know is, has anyone here ever, in the last two or even three decades, ever seen ZZ Top play? I was sat at the computer the other morning and girlfriend happens to mention that ZZ Top are playing here in Oslo. I didn't think much of it but then checked it out and they are playing a club, I guess it holds around 400 people. The tickets were going on sale that particular morning at 9am - I looked at the clock and it was 8.59, so WITHOUT THINKING I immediately went and bought a pair of tickets for um, cough, a moderately large amount of cash. (A day later, it was sold out.) What have I done? Should I be happy/excited? Someone reassure me, please... N _________________________________________________________________ Twice the fun?Share photos while you chat with Windows Live Messenger. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/uk/windows/windowslive/products/messenger.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joker at Z6.com Mon Feb 2 10:55:40 2009 From: joker at Z6.com (Rob's Arse) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 07:55:40 -0800 Subject: [kj] (totally OT) Train schedules Message-ID: <20090202075540.1FE401F3@resin09.mta.everyone.net> When you looking at travelling Bo? There are train stations in both towns. www.iamscuzzy.com www.myspace.com/scuzzywear --- bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com wrote: From: Bo Krogsgaard To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Subject: [kj] (totally OT) Train schedules Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:32:13 +0100 Any of you fine gentle(wo)men who can point me to the fastest way to get from Oxford to Bicester and back? If you're in the neighbourhood i'd even offer a beer for some good advice :) b _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of www.worldmap.com) From sneakypete at uwclub.net Mon Feb 2 11:00:59 2009 From: sneakypete at uwclub.net (Peter Moltesen) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:00:59 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT: List of Independent Record Shops that give you thatspecial feeling In-Reply-To: <1646350c0902020610k266bff7w72c4a39cda143544@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090202160107.33FC410565@mailwash5.pair.com> Swordfish isn't the shop it was in my opinion It doesn't get half the new releases it used to And even for psych & prog CD reissues its not as good as it used to be Though its worth trawling through the vinyl racks The second hand bit at the back (only open on Saturdays) Is worth perusing - you can find some nice slabs of second hand vinyl For very reasonable prices. I fear the internet is taking its toll Tempest is pretty good for 'indie'/'alternative' (for want of better Words) type things And if you're feeling adventurous, head for King's Heath - for Polar Bear Records - by far the best record shop in Brum, just round the corner from the Hare & Hounds. The geezer who runs it, Steve, is a really nice bloke and very knowledgeable. Everything from 70's prog & krautrock & Jazz, To Black Metal, punk, Nick Cave etc etc, avant rock and beyond. Also lots of vinyl - new and second hand Peter -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of iPat Sent: 02 February 2009 14:10 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: [kj] OT: List of Independent Record Shops that give you thatspecial feeling OK so to move this on why don't we list city/town and name of Independent Aberdeen 1UP records; Cavern records; both Belmont St iPat Swansea Derricks Records, Oxford St iPat Birmingham Swordfish Ade On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 1:33 PM, ade wrote: > I used to do that at the old second-hand record shops I frequented in my 20's, but they've closed or I don't go near them anymore in daily life. There's a few so-called independents in B'ham, but they've always been too 'hip' & scenesterish for me to be that interested. Swordfish I like though - I go in there most times I'm up B'ham. > > -----Original Message----- > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of iPat > > i go to the city centre independent record shop and spend a while in > it, speaking to the staff that i have known for upto 28 years. They > can point me to recommendations, talk about the families, any gigs > coming up,....chew the fat. > > Cant do that in a zaavi or hmv. Where's your local independent? > _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From planetary at socal.rr.com Mon Feb 2 11:08:25 2009 From: planetary at socal.rr.com (The Mighty TB) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:08:25 -0800 Subject: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <11B1865EE76C42EDBAFCF938B14F21BB@Bell2007PC> "Neil Perry" wrote: > Hello everyone and belated New Year greetings. > > What I want to know is, has anyone here ever, in the last two or even > three > decades, ever seen ZZ Top play? > > I was sat at the computer the other morning and girlfriend happens to > mention that ZZ Top are playing here in Oslo. I didn't think much of it > but then checked > it out and they are playing a club, I guess it holds around 400 people. > The tickets > were going on sale that particular morning at 9am - I looked at the clock > and it > was 8.59, so WITHOUT THINKING I immediately went and bought a pair of > tickets > for um, cough, a moderately large amount of cash. (A day later, it was > sold > out.) > > What have I done? Should I be happy/excited? > > Someone reassure me, please... You'll have fun. I've seen ZZ Top a few times since the late 70's, always in arenas, usually in decent to excellent seats and have enjoyed their shows but it's never been anything special. Usually, their arena stage show was littered with ridiculously over the top props and gimmicks. However, a couple years ago, I saw them in a House Of Blues club (the same one KJ played in Hollywood last year) and it was outstanding. Billy Gibbon's is still an understated master on guitar and overall the band is still pretty sharp live. They do a few of the old goofy moves onstage during songs like in the old MTV videos but it never crosses the cheese factor line. The band really shines in a club setting these days. The only negatives I can come up with is that they use backing tapes and even a hidden singer or prerecorded vox for several of their "Eliminator" mid 80's era songs (Legs, Sharp Dressed Man, Gimme All Your Lovin) usually played during the encore. And of course, you gotta like their style of Texas blues, otherwise you may be in for a tough evening. T.B. From joker at Z6.com Mon Feb 2 11:09:51 2009 From: joker at Z6.com (Rob's Arse) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:09:51 -0800 Subject: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ Message-ID: <20090202080951.1FE40CC8@resin09.mta.everyone.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 65snoopy at gmail.com Mon Feb 2 11:24:52 2009 From: 65snoopy at gmail.com (Neil Perry) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 17:24:52 +0100 Subject: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ In-Reply-To: <11B1865EE76C42EDBAFCF938B14F21BB@Bell2007PC> References: <11B1865EE76C42EDBAFCF938B14F21BB@Bell2007PC> Message-ID: heh heh.. OK that was the sort of answer I was looking for. I think my split-second decision was based entirely on when they appeared on the Tube in the UK (the tv show, not the transport system) around the time of Sharp Dressed Man etc, and Billy Gibbons's sound was fucking fantastic - I'm sure it is on YouTube somewhere. I have a few of the pre-mega stardom albums which I listen to every now and then, so I don't mind those Texass blues... I think I was more worried about the cheese factor. I've always liked his guitar playing so as long as he's still cranking it up and out, I figure it'll be a good night. N PS And cheese matures with age, right? 2009/2/2 The Mighty TB > "Neil Perry" wrote: > > > Hello everyone and belated New Year greetings. >> >> What I want to know is, has anyone here ever, in the last two or even >> three >> decades, ever seen ZZ Top play? >> >> I was sat at the computer the other morning and girlfriend happens to >> mention that ZZ Top are playing here in Oslo. I didn't think much of it >> but then checked >> it out and they are playing a club, I guess it holds around 400 people. >> The tickets >> were going on sale that particular morning at 9am - I looked at the clock >> and it >> was 8.59, so WITHOUT THINKING I immediately went and bought a pair of >> tickets >> for um, cough, a moderately large amount of cash. (A day later, it was >> sold >> out.) >> >> What have I done? Should I be happy/excited? >> >> Someone reassure me, please... >> > > You'll have fun. I've seen ZZ Top a few times since the late 70's, always > in arenas, usually in decent to excellent seats and have enjoyed their shows > but it's never been anything special. Usually, their arena stage show was > littered with ridiculously over the top props and gimmicks. However, a > couple years ago, I saw them in a House Of Blues club (the same one KJ > played in Hollywood last year) and it was outstanding. Billy Gibbon's is > still an understated master on guitar and overall the band is still pretty > sharp live. They do a few of the old goofy moves onstage during songs like > in the old MTV videos but it never crosses the cheese factor line. The band > really shines in a club setting these days. > > The only negatives I can come up with is that they use backing tapes and > even a hidden singer or prerecorded vox for several of their "Eliminator" > mid 80's era songs (Legs, Sharp Dressed Man, Gimme All Your Lovin) usually > played during the encore. And of course, you gotta like their style of > Texas blues, otherwise you may be in for a tough evening. > > T.B. > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jerry at fleamusic.com Mon Feb 2 11:27:27 2009 From: jerry at fleamusic.com (Jerry Butson) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:27:27 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ In-Reply-To: References: <11B1865EE76C42EDBAFCF938B14F21BB@Bell2007PC> Message-ID: <6bd06be20902020827y5ae7cecdna2691a94844bc74@mail.gmail.com> If you hold up a lighter during "Rough Boy" you could always set light to their beards... 2009/2/2 Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> > heh heh.. > > OK that was the sort of answer I was looking for. I think my split-second > decision was based entirely on when they appeared on the Tube in the UK > (the tv show, not the transport system) around the time of Sharp Dressed > Man etc, > and Billy Gibbons's sound was fucking fantastic - I'm sure it is on YouTube > somewhere. > I have a few of the pre-mega stardom albums which I listen to every now and > then, > so I don't mind those Texass blues... I think I was more worried about the > cheese > factor. I've always liked his guitar playing so as long as he's still > cranking it up and out, I figure it'll be a good night. > > N > > PS And cheese matures with age, right? > > 2009/2/2 The Mighty TB > > "Neil Perry" wrote: >> >> >> Hello everyone and belated New Year greetings. >>> >>> What I want to know is, has anyone here ever, in the last two or even >>> three >>> decades, ever seen ZZ Top play? >>> >>> I was sat at the computer the other morning and girlfriend happens to >>> mention that ZZ Top are playing here in Oslo. I didn't think much of it >>> but then checked >>> it out and they are playing a club, I guess it holds around 400 people. >>> The tickets >>> were going on sale that particular morning at 9am - I looked at the clock >>> and it >>> was 8.59, so WITHOUT THINKING I immediately went and bought a pair of >>> tickets >>> for um, cough, a moderately large amount of cash. (A day later, it was >>> sold >>> out.) >>> >>> What have I done? Should I be happy/excited? >>> >>> Someone reassure me, please... >>> >> >> You'll have fun. I've seen ZZ Top a few times since the late 70's, always >> in arenas, usually in decent to excellent seats and have enjoyed their shows >> but it's never been anything special. Usually, their arena stage show was >> littered with ridiculously over the top props and gimmicks. However, a >> couple years ago, I saw them in a House Of Blues club (the same one KJ >> played in Hollywood last year) and it was outstanding. Billy Gibbon's is >> still an understated master on guitar and overall the band is still pretty >> sharp live. They do a few of the old goofy moves onstage during songs like >> in the old MTV videos but it never crosses the cheese factor line. The band >> really shines in a club setting these days. >> >> The only negatives I can come up with is that they use backing tapes and >> even a hidden singer or prerecorded vox for several of their "Eliminator" >> mid 80's era songs (Legs, Sharp Dressed Man, Gimme All Your Lovin) usually >> played during the encore. And of course, you gotta like their style of >> Texas blues, otherwise you may be in for a tough evening. >> >> T.B. >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > -- fleamusic p.o. box 70 witney oxfordshire ox29 4ga u.k. tel/fax: +44 (0) 1865 881859; cell +44 (0) 7939 228435 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 65snoopy at gmail.com Mon Feb 2 11:32:47 2009 From: 65snoopy at gmail.com (Neil Perry) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 17:32:47 +0100 Subject: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ In-Reply-To: <6bd06be20902020827y5ae7cecdna2691a94844bc74@mail.gmail.com> References: <11B1865EE76C42EDBAFCF938B14F21BB@Bell2007PC> <6bd06be20902020827y5ae7cecdna2691a94844bc74@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I could be making this up to continue justifying this to myself, but didn't Raven get pally with Billy Gibbons at one point - around the time of Pigface touring? I think Gibbons came to the gig in Texas and ended up inviting them all to his house ... or something. 2009/2/2 Jerry Butson > If you hold up a lighter during "Rough Boy" you could always set light to > their beards... > > 2009/2/2 Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> > > heh heh.. >> >> OK that was the sort of answer I was looking for. I think my split-second >> decision was based entirely on when they appeared on the Tube in the UK >> (the tv show, not the transport system) around the time of Sharp Dressed >> Man etc, >> and Billy Gibbons's sound was fucking fantastic - I'm sure it is on >> YouTube somewhere. >> I have a few of the pre-mega stardom albums which I listen to every now >> and then, >> so I don't mind those Texass blues... I think I was more worried about the >> cheese >> factor. I've always liked his guitar playing so as long as he's still >> cranking it up and out, I figure it'll be a good night. >> >> N >> >> PS And cheese matures with age, right? >> >> 2009/2/2 The Mighty TB >> >> "Neil Perry" wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hello everyone and belated New Year greetings. >>>> >>>> What I want to know is, has anyone here ever, in the last two or even >>>> three >>>> decades, ever seen ZZ Top play? >>>> >>>> I was sat at the computer the other morning and girlfriend happens to >>>> mention that ZZ Top are playing here in Oslo. I didn't think much of it >>>> but then checked >>>> it out and they are playing a club, I guess it holds around 400 people. >>>> The tickets >>>> were going on sale that particular morning at 9am - I looked at the >>>> clock and it >>>> was 8.59, so WITHOUT THINKING I immediately went and bought a pair of >>>> tickets >>>> for um, cough, a moderately large amount of cash. (A day later, it was >>>> sold >>>> out.) >>>> >>>> What have I done? Should I be happy/excited? >>>> >>>> Someone reassure me, please... >>>> >>> >>> You'll have fun. I've seen ZZ Top a few times since the late 70's, >>> always in arenas, usually in decent to excellent seats and have enjoyed >>> their shows but it's never been anything special. Usually, their arena stage >>> show was littered with ridiculously over the top props and gimmicks. >>> However, a couple years ago, I saw them in a House Of Blues club (the same >>> one KJ played in Hollywood last year) and it was outstanding. Billy >>> Gibbon's is still an understated master on guitar and overall the band is >>> still pretty sharp live. They do a few of the old goofy moves onstage >>> during songs like in the old MTV videos but it never crosses the cheese >>> factor line. The band really shines in a club setting these days. >>> >>> The only negatives I can come up with is that they use backing tapes and >>> even a hidden singer or prerecorded vox for several of their "Eliminator" >>> mid 80's era songs (Legs, Sharp Dressed Man, Gimme All Your Lovin) usually >>> played during the encore. And of course, you gotta like their style of >>> Texas blues, otherwise you may be in for a tough evening. >>> >>> T.B. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gathering mailing list >>> Gathering at misera.net >>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> >> > > > -- > fleamusic p.o. box 70 witney oxfordshire ox29 4ga u.k. > > tel/fax: +44 (0) 1865 881859; cell +44 (0) 7939 228435 > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Either you or her is waiting for someone better to come along . Do the right thing Neil. get rid. Sorry for being personal., but have you taken her up the aisle yet ? Females don't usually comply at first, but you need a bit of perseverance , a bit of drink sometimes helps , get her drunk then slip it in when shes unaware , pop it whens shes a bit drunk, take her out for meal, have some wine, then pop the question in a romantic setting. Don't take her up the aisle when you are drunk though , you may not remember it and some Women are content with getting taken up the aisle just once . You don't want to do the deed and then have no recollection of it afterwards Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 17:32:47 +0100 From: 65snoopy at gmail.com To: jerry at fleamusic.com; gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ I could be making this up to continue justifying this to myself, but didn't Raven get pally with Billy Gibbons at one point - around the time of Pigface touring? I think Gibbons came to the gig in Texas and ended up inviting them all to his house ... or something. 2009/2/2 Jerry Butson If you hold up a lighter during "Rough Boy" you could always set light to their beards... 2009/2/2 Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> heh heh.. OK that was the sort of answer I was looking for. I think my split-second decision was based entirely on when they appeared on the Tube in the UK (the tv show, not the transport system) around the time of Sharp Dressed Man etc, and Billy Gibbons's sound was fucking fantastic - I'm sure it is on YouTube somewhere. I have a few of the pre-mega stardom albums which I listen to every now and then, so I don't mind those Texass blues... I think I was more worried about the cheese factor. I've always liked his guitar playing so as long as he's still cranking it up and out, I figure it'll be a good night. N PS And cheese matures with age, right? 2009/2/2 The Mighty TB "Neil Perry" wrote: Hello everyone and belated New Year greetings. What I want to know is, has anyone here ever, in the last two or even three decades, ever seen ZZ Top play? I was sat at the computer the other morning and girlfriend happens to mention that ZZ Top are playing here in Oslo. I didn't think much of it but then checked it out and they are playing a club, I guess it holds around 400 people. The tickets were going on sale that particular morning at 9am - I looked at the clock and it was 8.59, so WITHOUT THINKING I immediately went and bought a pair of tickets for um, cough, a moderately large amount of cash. (A day later, it was sold out.) What have I done? Should I be happy/excited? Someone reassure me, please... You'll have fun. I've seen ZZ Top a few times since the late 70's, always in arenas, usually in decent to excellent seats and have enjoyed their shows but it's never been anything special. Usually, their arena stage show was littered with ridiculously over the top props and gimmicks. However, a couple years ago, I saw them in a House Of Blues club (the same one KJ played in Hollywood last year) and it was outstanding. Billy Gibbon's is still an understated master on guitar and overall the band is still pretty sharp live. They do a few of the old goofy moves onstage during songs like in the old MTV videos but it never crosses the cheese factor line. The band really shines in a club setting these days. The only negatives I can come up with is that they use backing tapes and even a hidden singer or prerecorded vox for several of their "Eliminator" mid 80's era songs (Legs, Sharp Dressed Man, Gimme All Your Lovin) usually played during the encore. And of course, you gotta like their style of Texas blues, otherwise you may be in for a tough evening. 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URL: From angrytomhanks at yahoo.com Mon Feb 2 12:10:31 2009 From: angrytomhanks at yahoo.com (Leigh Newton) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:10:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks References: <1672909.1233345860359.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <336397.9970.qm@web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> HA! Ex.Act.Ly. http://www.nightruiner.com http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale ________________________________ From: Alex Smith To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) ; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 3:04:19 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks With all due respect, Brendan, this is like dredging up the ol' "Eighties"/"Come As You Are"/"Life Goes On"/"Baby, Come Back" debate. Alex in NYC -----Original Message----- From: Brendan Quinn Sent: Jan 30, 2009 2:53 PM To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks Well, unfair in your opinion, I beg to differ based on how I see it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Hicks#Allegations_of_plagiarism_towards_Denis_Leary http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE4sK_yYtGQ ________________________________ From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alex Smith Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 05:38 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); ' A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks The perils and ramifications of smoking aren't really "niche" material. You may not like Dennis Leary -- fair enough -- but to accuse him of ripping off Hicks in that capacity is pretty unfair. Alex in NYC -----Original Message----- From: Brendan Quinn Sent: Jan 30, 2009 12:46 PM To: "' A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks We were comparing them because they covered similar material, that I?m pretty sure Hicks came up with and Leary stole. Specifically the voicebox gag. I could be wrong, but that?s the accusation. ________________________________ From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alex Smith Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 03:59 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); ' A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks You seem to be equating them merely on the fact that they're both "angry" comedians. That's not much to go on. I mean, why not toss Don Rickles into the mix too, then? Alex in NYC -----Original Message----- From: Brendan Quinn Sent: Jan 30, 2009 10:31 AM To: "' A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks Not a fair comparison?because? ________________________________ From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexander Smith Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 23:15 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks was capable of being. I love both, but it's not really a fair comparison. Alex in NYC On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote: Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=? Please show working. ________________________________ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;) From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is Denis Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because there's no cure for cancer"' -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 29 January 2009 04:57 To: ' A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks The only other comedians I?d put in that category (and none as good as Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who?s a surprising find actually. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8 PS: I haven?t watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but from memory it?s pretty cool. ________________________________ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Bette Dillinger Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks Hey everyone! Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it. In the US David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the routine of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994 because it was considered too "controversial". The routine that sullied his relationship with the media to a degree. His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make this shit up.)......... Damn, it has been 14 years! Are there any comedians that are flying under the radar that should be checked out? I am still looking for one whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour. Bette ________________________________ size=2 width="100%" align=center> Windows Live?: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. Check it out. _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From angrytomhanks at yahoo.com Mon Feb 2 12:16:46 2009 From: angrytomhanks at yahoo.com (Leigh Newton) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:16:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072375@mr-pants.the-lab.local> <032EF75ADBE84DA68881A6F6BC61F69B@Soundgardener> <15BBA1D3A2C4464188BDC72B9D949E31@Soundgardener> Message-ID: <75120.23224.qm@web65505.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Leary gets a free pass for life all because of the TV show Rescue Me. http://www.nightruiner.com http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale ________________________________ From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 4:25:05 AM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks I think people taking comedy seriously has something to do with the ancient role of the court jester, poking fun at the King etc. Like Jaz & BPF mentioned in that brief interview that went around a while ago. We expect them to amuse us, but there?s also that angle of social critique. Challenging values and challenging authority. With the better comedians that is?you?re not really gonna get it from Larry the Cable Guy, or Seinfeld (but you *might* from Larry David). Christ if I remember back far enough (Classical Studies at school in ?91) there was a Greek slave comic playwright who took the piss out of those in power, Aristophanes?and even though he was a slave who viciously & publicly ridiculed those in power, he got away with it because he did it with great humour. It?s hard to feel outrage about something when an entire auditorium is cracking up about it... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristophanes So elevating a comic who challenges the status quo to heroic proportions isn?t anything new. Hicks always said he attacked things that offended his sense of reason, and after hearing that and going back over his stuff, it?s quite a theme. Not that it?s anything unique in comedy. But the extent to which he?s worshipped, I stand by it - hence the staunch defence, 15+ years after the event. No one has ever made me laugh as hard and at the same time articulated a sense of outrage at the primitive state of civilisation. Basically take your peak experiences with whatever art or literature or whatever that has really elevated your consciousness, that?s how it felt for me, listening to Hicks for the first time. So yeah, he?s up there with Hendrix and Robert Anton Wilson and Soundgarden and my other heroes, but not because of some cult of personality or posthumous popularity. And I can forgive the bits where he goes over the top, to the same extent I forgive Jaz for the same. Seems to go hand in hand with ?being out there?. ________________________________ From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 19:44 To: ' A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'; 'Alex Smith' Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks Oh no how?d we get into this? I thought I was raising an in joke between Ade and me re SG vs STP to a) illustrate how I felt about Hicks vs Leary, and b) make sure that it was taken light-heartedly? ________________________________ From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 08:40 To: Alex Smith; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > PS: Soundgarden is, was, and e'er shall be LIGHT YEARS better than STP. I'm sure they are mate, but how do I *make* myself like Soundgarden & not like STP ? What I actually said was that I preferred STP is all. I'm supposed to be wrong, how? -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Alex Smith Sent: 30 January 2009 21:09 To: ade; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks I saw Leary perform 'No Cure for Cancer' live in a tiny club in the West Village , thanks. Hicks is funny, but has since become deified to ridiculous degrees. Also, Hicks had a tiresomely sanctimonious quality to his work which made me enjoy it less than Leary's. My opinion. Alex in NYC PS: Soundgarden is, was, and e'er shall be LIGHT YEARS better than STP. -----Original Message----- From: ade Sent: Jan 30, 2009 3:30 PM To: Alex Smith , " A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Subject: RE: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks I get the feeling you've not actually seen the material that I argue (amongst many others) Leary clearly ripped from Hicks. In that case, how can you pass judgement? I loved Leary's 'No Cure for Cancer', until I got into Hicks. I couldn't believe I was hearing the same jokes VERY DISTINCTIVE jokes being repeated right back at me - that totally destroyed No Cure for cancer for me. Keep your fingers in your ears, it's only my opinion. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Alex Smith Sent: 30 January 2009 18:38 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); ' A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks The perils and ramifications of smoking aren't really "niche" material. You may not like Dennis Leary -- fair enough -- but to accuse him of ripping off Hicks in that capacity is pretty unfair. Alex in NYC -----Original Message----- From: Brendan Quinn Sent: Jan 30, 2009 12:46 PM To: "' A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks We were comparing them because they covered similar material, that I?m pretty sure Hicks came up with and Leary stole. Specifically the voicebox gag. I could be wrong, but that?s the accusation. ________________________________ From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alex Smith Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 03:59 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); ' A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks You seem to be equating them merely on the fact that they're both "angry" comedians. That's not much to go on. I mean, why not toss Don Rickles into the mix too, then? Alex in NYC -----Original Message----- From: Brendan Quinn Sent: Jan 30, 2009 10:31 AM To: "' A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks Not a fair comparison?because? ________________________________ From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexander Smith Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 23:15 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks was capable of being. I love both, but it's not really a fair comparison. Alex in NYC On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote: Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=? Please show working. ________________________________ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;) From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is Denis Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because there's no cure for cancer"' -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 29 January 2009 04:57 To: ' A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks The only other comedians I?d put in that category (and none as good as Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who?s a surprising find actually. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8 PS: I haven?t watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but from memory it?s pretty cool. ________________________________ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Bette Dillinger Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks Hey everyone! Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it. In the US David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the routine of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994 because it was considered too "controversial". The routine that sullied his relationship with the media to a degree. His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make this shit up.)......... Damn, it has been 14 years! Are there any comedians that are flying under the radar that should be checked out? I am still looking for one whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour. Bette ________________________________ size=2 width="100%" align=center> Windows Live?: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. Check it out. _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From planetary at socal.rr.com Mon Feb 2 12:22:45 2009 From: planetary at socal.rr.com (The Mighty TB) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:22:45 -0800 Subject: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ In-Reply-To: References: <11B1865EE76C42EDBAFCF938B14F21BB@Bell2007PC> Message-ID: "Neil Perry" wrote: > heh heh.. > > OK that was the sort of answer I was looking for. I think my split-second > decision was based entirely on when they appeared on the Tube in the UK > (the tv show, not the transport system) around the time of Sharp Dressed > Man > etc, > and Billy Gibbons's sound was fucking fantastic - I'm sure it is on > YouTube > somewhere. > I have a few of the pre-mega stardom albums which I listen to every now > and > then, > so I don't mind those Texass blues... I think I was more worried about the > cheese > factor. I've always liked his guitar playing so as long as he's still > cranking it up and out, I figure it'll be a good night. ZZ Top has kind of moved away from the instantly listenable radio-friendly singles the last decade or so back to a more traditional, although somewhat generic Texas blues/rock sound and vibe. The last really catchy tune they've done that stood out for me was "Beatbox" off the "XXX" album from about '99. The last couple albums are solid but unmemorable. But yeah, Billy's still a badass on guitar and they seem to be playing a lot of tunes off "El Loco" these days which is still my favorite album by them. T.B. From bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com Mon Feb 2 12:28:40 2009 From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 18:28:40 +0100 Subject: [kj] (totally OT) Train schedules In-Reply-To: <20090202075540.1FE401F3@resin09.mta.everyone.net> References: <20090202075540.1FE401F3@resin09.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: On 2/2/09, Rob's Arse wrote: > When you looking at travelling Bo? > There are train stations in both towns. First coming weekend in March i can get my arse off of work. I can pretty much find my way to Oxford from London but Bicester is like "yeah right, is that an actual place?" in my book. And i cannot ask said girl i'm gonna visit cos it's a surprise thingie connected to her birthday and all, which is why i ask here. b From dwish2000 at hotmail.com Mon Feb 2 12:31:37 2009 From: dwish2000 at hotmail.com (drunk wish) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 17:31:37 +0000 Subject: [kj] management contact? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Does anyone have a current management contact for KJ? T. _________________________________________________________________ The new Windows Live Messenger. You don?t want to miss this. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/messenger.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Mon Feb 2 13:12:39 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 05:12:39 +1100 Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks In-Reply-To: <336397.9970.qm@web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <1672909.1233345860359.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <336397.9970.qm@web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2644C4F572C84C6C976A1AA34D9DE16E@Soundgardener> Exactly.what? If you don't want to take part in a thread, there's plenty on tv on I'm sure. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Leigh Newton Sent: Tuesday, 3 February 2009 04:11 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks HA! Ex.Act.Ly. http://www.nightruiner.com http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale _____ From: Alex Smith To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) ; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 3:04:19 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks With all due respect, Brendan, this is like dredging up the ol' "Eighties"/"Come As You Are"/"Life Goes On"/"Baby, Come Back" debate. Alex in NYC -----Original Message----- From: Brendan Quinn Sent: Jan 30, 2009 2:53 PM To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks Well, unfair in your opinion, I beg to differ based on how I see it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Hicks#Allegations_of_plagiarism_towards_De nis_Leary http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE4sK_yYtGQ _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alex Smith Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 05:38 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); ' A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks The perils and ramifications of smoking aren't really "niche" material. You may not like Dennis Leary -- fair enough -- but to accuse him of ripping off Hicks in that capacity is pretty unfair. Alex in NYC -----Original Message----- From: Brendan Quinn Sent: Jan 30, 2009 12:46 PM To: "' A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks We were comparing them because they covered similar material, that I'm pretty sure Hicks came up with and Leary stole. Specifically the voicebox gag. I could be wrong, but that's the accusation. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alex Smith Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 03:59 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); ' A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks You seem to be equating them merely on the fact that they're both "angry" comedians. That's not much to go on. I mean, why not toss Don Rickles into the mix too, then? Alex in NYC -----Original Message----- From: Brendan Quinn Sent: Jan 30, 2009 10:31 AM To: "' A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks Not a fair comparison.because? _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexander Smith Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 23:15 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks was capable of being. I love both, but it's not really a fair comparison. Alex in NYC On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote: Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=? Please show working. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;) >From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is Denis Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because there's no cure for cancer"' -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 29 January 2009 04:57 To: ' A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks The only other comedians I'd put in that category (and none as good as Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who's a surprising find actually. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8 PS: I haven't watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but from memory it's pretty cool. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Bette Dillinger Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks Hey everyone! Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it. In the US David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the routine of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994 because it was considered too "controversial". The routine that sullied his relationship with the media to a degree. His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make this shit up.)......... Damn, it has been 14 years! Are there any comedians that are flying under the radar that should be checked out? I am still looking for one whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour. Bette _____ size=2 width="100%" align=center> Windows LiveT: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. Check it out. _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blazingstar418 at yahoo.com Mon Feb 2 13:17:29 2009 From: blazingstar418 at yahoo.com (Blazingstar418) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 10:17:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Tribute Message-ID: <780016.8811.qm@web57103.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Speaking of tribute bands..... ?I drum in a Siouxsie and the Banshees tribute band called Spellbound. www.myspace.com/spellboundsf ?We've also got an excellent Joy Division tribute band here in San Francisco called Dead Souls? (www.myspace.com/deadsoulssf) ?Michael Garcia and I have a Sisters of Mercy tribute band called The Reptile House (www.myspace.com/thereptilehaus) who are playing with Dead Souls and an excellent Cure tribute called Japanese Baby (www.myspace.com/japanesebabysf) in a few weeks. I know that most of you won't be making it due to things like, the distance of thousands of miles, but I swear it'd make you feel 30 years younger if you did!? ;) A L P --- On Mon, 2/2/09, Carlos Fandango wrote: From: Carlos Fandango Subject: [kj] Tribute To: gathering at misera.net Date: Monday, February 2, 2009, 5:41 AM #yiv1982509905 .hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv1982509905 { font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} http://www.the12barswindon.com/get/gigs ? Saturday 9th May 2009 TRANSMISSION THE SOUND OF JOY DIVISION + 1000 Planets (KillingJoke Set) Devoted to recreating the atmosphere of a live Joy Division gig, Transmission emulate the sound of one of the most inventive, evocative and influential groups of their era. Joy Division were formed in the late 1970s and dissolved in May 1980 after the suicide of lead singer Ian Curtis. The remaining members went on to form New Order and have achieved much critical and commercial success. The influence of Joy Division, however, was far reaching. They were considered the pioneering band of the post-punk movement of the late 1970s and early 1980s. More than 20 years on you can still relive the dark cavernous sound of Joy Division through Transmission one of the leading UK tribute bands. website: http://www.transmissionlive.com http:// www.myspace.com/transmissionlive http:// www.myspace.com/1000planets Doors open: 20:00 Admission: ?6 (adv) ?6 (door) ? ? ? ? Beyond Hotmail - see what else you can do with Windows Live Find out more! -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com Mon Feb 2 14:04:07 2009 From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com (The Exorcist) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 14:04:07 -0500 Subject: [kj] (totally OT) Train schedules In-Reply-To: <6bd06be20902020459i7426ad5em33712d837dbb37c8@mail.gmail.co m> References: <6bd06be20902020459i7426ad5em33712d837dbb37c8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0KEG005D4CYXVZG0@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> KJ transportation. Beware! Rides are subject to change at random whims! :) Sorry, I couldn't resist. :) At 07:59 AM 2/2/2009, Jerry Butson wrote: >You're coming all this way to go to BICESTER? > >It all depends on when you're travelling but check >thetrainline.com, you can put in your own >dates/times and get a choice of trains. Alternatively i'll drive you there... > >jerry > >2009/2/2 Bo Krogsgaard ><bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com> >Any of you fine gentle(wo)men who can point me to the fastest way to >get from Oxford to Bicester and back? > >If you're in the neighbourhood i'd even offer a beer for some good advice :) > > >b -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Mon Feb 2 14:52:49 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 06:52:49 +1100 Subject: [kj] (totally OT) Train schedules In-Reply-To: <0KEG005D4CYXVZG0@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> References: <6bd06be20902020459i7426ad5em33712d837dbb37c8@mail.gmail.com> <0KEG005D4CYXVZG0@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Message-ID: <11FA8F25460E4E16ACDD12DA5AD34CAE@Soundgardener> It's time travel now though - timewave - in the time it took you to read this email you all aged 400 years. Hence the yawning. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of The Exorcist Sent: Tuesday, 3 February 2009 06:04 To: jerry at fleamusic.com; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (totally OT) Train schedules KJ transportation. Beware! Rides are subject to change at random whims! :) Sorry, I couldn't resist. :) At 07:59 AM 2/2/2009, Jerry Butson wrote: You're coming all this way to go to BICESTER? It all depends on when you're travelling but check thetrainline.com, you can put in your own dates/times and get a choice of trains. Alternatively i'll drive you there... jerry 2009/2/2 Bo Krogsgaard Any of you fine gentle(wo)men who can point me to the fastest way to get from Oxford to Bicester and back? If you're in the neighbourhood i'd even offer a beer for some good advice :) b -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Alex in NYC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Mon Feb 2 17:32:37 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 14:32:37 -0800 Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072376@mr-pants.the-lab.local><6461981F-3B5A-4900-90AB-B079CC74BA96@earthlink.net><1646350c0901311216mf52c824tc62ca2fdc8cc3243@mail.gmail.com><1646350c0901311424w6d2ca965q94b95129bbb23c73@mail.gmail.com> <0CFDE267-4200-4E0E-8EBB-66199AE47DE6@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <0B0BB205791E491FBF3D754477D138BA@edweil> Amen, Alex! k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexander Smith" To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks >I wasn't referring to YOU when I alluded to Year Zero. "Year Zero" is >shorthand for Punk Rock's myopic scorched earth policy of renouncing all >that came before it. > > Everyone on this list needs to chill the hell out a little bit. > > Alex in NYC > > > > On Jan 31, 2009, at 5:24 PM, iPat wrote: > >> not what i said, >> i never referred to year zero, although i don't really know what you >> mean exactly by that. >> >> My point is that while we can sometimes take ourselves out to >> different genres where one or two finds may be the exception, you will >> generally be disposed to what you initially were turned on by. I may >> have a few 'metal' tracks in my collection but in general im more >> likely to default to where my journey really started, which is >> naturally influenced by the peer group at the time. >> >> For me, where i was in the UK at that time, it was the early 70's >> skinhead music which set me off due to my peers influence. I've never >> worn a rocker style leather jacket synonymous with rock music. The >> status quo rocker scene was the antithesis of my 'culture' and the >> music was abhorrent. That's not to say i don't have the odd early >> AC/DC or Pink Floyd track and you know my feelings on Rush. Whether >> any so called celeb is into a band has no effect on me but can >> titillate others to no end. That's people for you. >> >> I had a branch of industrial music that went off with mainly psychick >> tv but a lot of krautrock' industrial stuff didn't interest me as >> Orbital or Spiral tribe held little interest for Metallica fans. In >> fact my PTV collection is quite large with all the literature that i >> had and i think i will give it a suitable collector. Flat mates at the >> time fcking hated it, unable to understand my hysterics when 'Jesus >> Christ Walks on Water' was blasted out the window on number 10 volume >> control to the neighborhood. >> >> The crux of the matter though, is that the more i experience a wider >> scope of music, i find myself defaulting to the original inspirations. >> Whether you find the same is irrelevant in that you are you and of >> course your experiences will be unique to your disposition. I'll wager >> there is a disposition though. A recent remark on someone on this list >> in private correspondence has also shown him to deferring to his >> Groundhogs, Hawkwind, Todd Rundgren, Peter Green Fleetwood Mac. All of >> which i find completely abhorrent unless i want to pretend to be a >> music snob and pretend there's some intellectual relevance to it. >> there's not, i simply dont get off on it. >> >> It's like gigs, it simply amazes me that i can go to gigs and there's >> never a fight anymore......where are the balls ; ) >> >> So whilst you may not agree with it, it is because i am not you as you >> are not me. I'm right though and i blame it on mother.......... : 0 >> >> On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Alexander Smith > > wrote: >>> >>> I never fully subscribed to all that 'Year Zero' stuff. I love lots of >>> metal. I adore Punk Rock. I like an unwieldy dollop of so-called >>> 'classic >>> rock.' I like bits of reggae. I like a lot of dance music. There's more >>> than >>> enough crap that I *don't* like, but at the end of the day, music is >>> music. >>> I'm too old to define myself by any single genre anymore. >>> >>> Henry Rollins of Black Flag, by the way (since they were invoked >>> earlier) is >>> a huge fan of Ted Nugent, Van Halen and Aerosmith. >>> >>> Alex in NYC >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From karen.weil at sddt.com Mon Feb 2 17:56:44 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 14:56:44 -0800 Subject: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ References: <11B1865EE76C42EDBAFCF938B14F21BB@Bell2007PC> <6bd06be20902020827y5ae7cecdna2691a94844bc74@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: And don't forget the Jack Daniels! ; p k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jerry Butson To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ If you hold up a lighter during "Rough Boy" you could always set light to their beards... 2009/2/2 Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> heh heh.. OK that was the sort of answer I was looking for. I think my split-second decision was based entirely on when they appeared on the Tube in the UK (the tv show, not the transport system) around the time of Sharp Dressed Man etc, and Billy Gibbons's sound was fucking fantastic - I'm sure it is on YouTube somewhere. I have a few of the pre-mega stardom albums which I listen to every now and then, so I don't mind those Texass blues... I think I was more worried about the cheese factor. I've always liked his guitar playing so as long as he's still cranking it up and out, I figure it'll be a good night. N PS And cheese matures with age, right? 2009/2/2 The Mighty TB "Neil Perry" wrote: Hello everyone and belated New Year greetings. What I want to know is, has anyone here ever, in the last two or even three decades, ever seen ZZ Top play? I was sat at the computer the other morning and girlfriend happens to mention that ZZ Top are playing here in Oslo. I didn't think much of it but then checked it out and they are playing a club, I guess it holds around 400 people. The tickets were going on sale that particular morning at 9am - I looked at the clock and it was 8.59, so WITHOUT THINKING I immediately went and bought a pair of tickets for um, cough, a moderately large amount of cash. (A day later, it was sold out.) What have I done? Should I be happy/excited? Someone reassure me, please... You'll have fun. I've seen ZZ Top a few times since the late 70's, always in arenas, usually in decent to excellent seats and have enjoyed their shows but it's never been anything special. Usually, their arena stage show was littered with ridiculously over the top props and gimmicks. However, a couple years ago, I saw them in a House Of Blues club (the same one KJ played in Hollywood last year) and it was outstanding. Billy Gibbon's is still an understated master on guitar and overall the band is still pretty sharp live. They do a few of the old goofy moves onstage during songs like in the old MTV videos but it never crosses the cheese factor line. The band really shines in a club setting these days. The only negatives I can come up with is that they use backing tapes and even a hidden singer or prerecorded vox for several of their "Eliminator" mid 80's era songs (Legs, Sharp Dressed Man, Gimme All Your Lovin) usually played during the encore. And of course, you gotta like their style of Texas blues, otherwise you may be in for a tough evening. 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I can> pretty much find my way to Oxford from London but Bicester is like> "yeah right, is that an actual place?" in my book.> > And i cannot ask said girl i'm gonna visit cos it's a surprise thingie> connected to her birthday and all, which is why i ask here.> > > b> _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_explore_012009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From bettedillinger at live.com Mon Feb 2 19:00:49 2009 From: bettedillinger at live.com (Bette Dillinger) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 19:00:49 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks In-Reply-To: <4BF24AEBFA124BD99289600597AC7D91@Soundgardener> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072375@mr-pants.the-lab.local> <032EF75ADBE84DA68881A6F6BC61F69B@Soundgardener><15BBA1D3A2C4464188BDC72B9D949E31@Soundgardener><002601c984cc$ce2759d0$6a760d70$@com><41355979-E94D-4192-B4E6-5181DDA98E80@earthlink.net> <29607.203.210.68.145.1233536355.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <4BF24AEBFA124BD99289600597AC7D91@Soundgardener> Message-ID: Man, I thought that was a narcissistic bullshit fest. Letterman's motivation seemed to be for him to "have the last word on the situation and be done with it" because it was *very dodgy* what they did to BH. Of course Letterman had to always orient the discussion back to him (even though looking superficially upset now, he stated in a 1995 documentary definitively that it was "management's" decision to delete the material). Bill Hicks' mother's face said it all when he tried to apologize to her. Too little, too late. > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz> To: gathering at misera.net> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 22:37:50 +1100> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&v=Kpmb0SYRGhE> > Wow...Superletterman actually had the balls to apologise and question his> own actions in cutting Bill. And be honest about it being him who did it.> > Hate it when people do that atonement shit and make it harder to be pissed> off at them.> > -----Original Message-----> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On> Behalf Of Brendan> Sent: Monday, 2 February 2009 11:59> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks> > You'll need half a pound of hash, a hot summer's day and several trips in> order to make that test scientific.> > >> > Inspired by all this, I've ripped both HATE RANTS IN E-MINOR by Bill> > Hicks and NO CURE FOR CANCER by Denis Leary onto my iTunes/iPod. Will> > listen to both in their respective entireties this week for a decent> > re-appraisal.> >> > Alex in NYC> >> >> >> > On Feb 1, 2009, at 7:25 PM, Darren A. Peace wrote:> >> >> I think my favourite Aristophanes line is about how rain is God> >> pissing through a sieve. Either from "Frogs" or "Clouds", can't> >> remember which.> >>> >> And I'm thankful that the "comedy is the new rock & roll" nonsense> >> was euthanised. Horrible idea, aggravated by working a while back> >> with a Jongleurs zombie who insisted on using the phrase> >> "observational comedy" in every sentence and then explaining what it> >> means, as though I were both 7 and unable to speak English. Still,> >> he liked the Steve Miller band, and I got him to go to a non-fancy> >> dress board meeting dressed as Roy "Chubby" Brown, so all ended well.> >>> >> Like Hicks (mainly for religious diatribes rather than right-on> >> boredom), think Leary is a weasel-faced also-ran who made the grave> >> mistake of involving himself in that appalling fireman TV series. Meh.> >>> >> Darren> >> Hungerford, UK> >>> >>> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net> >> ] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn> >> Sent: 31 January 2009 09:25> >> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'> >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks> >>> >> I think people taking comedy seriously has something to do with the> >> ancient role of the court jester, poking fun at the King etc. Like> >> Jaz & BPF mentioned in that brief interview that went around a while> >> ago. We expect them to amuse us, but there's also that angle of> >> social critique. Challenging values and challenging authority. With> >> the better comedians that is.you're not really gonna get it from> >> Larry the Cable Guy, or Seinfeld (but you *might* from Larry David).> >> Christ if I remember back far enough (Classical Studies at school in> >> '91) there was a Greek slave comic playwright who took the piss out> >> of those in power, Aristophanes.and even though he was a slave who> >> viciously & publicly ridiculed those in power, he got away with it> >> because he did it with great humour. It's hard to feel outrage about> >> something when an entire auditorium is cracking up about it...> >>> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristophanes> >>> >> So elevating a comic who challenges the status quo to heroic> >> proportions isn't anything new.> >>> >> Hicks always said he attacked things that offended his sense of> >> reason, and after hearing that and going back over his stuff, it's> >> quite a theme. Not that it's anything unique in comedy. But the> >> extent to which he's worshipped, I stand by it - hence the staunch> >> defence, 15+ years after the event. No one has ever made me laugh as> >> hard and at the same time articulated a sense of outrage at the> >> primitive state of civilisation. Basically take your peak> >> experiences with whatever art or literature or whatever that has> >> really elevated your consciousness, that's how it felt for me,> >> listening to Hicks for the first time. So yeah, he's up there with> >> Hendrix and Robert Anton Wilson and Soundgarden and my other heroes,> >> but not because of some cult of personality or posthumous popularity.> >>> >> And I can forgive the bits where he goes over the top, to the same> >> extent I forgive Jaz for the same. Seems to go hand in hand with> >> 'being out there'.> >>> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net> >> ] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn> >> Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 19:44> >> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'; 'Alex Smith'> >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks> >>> >> Oh no how'd we get into this? I thought I was raising an in joke> >> between Ade and me re SG vs STP to a) illustrate how I felt about> >> Hicks vs Leary, and b) make sure that it was taken light-heartedly.> >>> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net> >> ] On Behalf Of ade> >> Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 08:40> >> To: Alex Smith; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)> >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks> >>> >> > PS: Soundgarden is, was, and e'er shall be LIGHT YEARS better than> >> STP.> >>> >> I'm sure they are mate, but how do I *make* myself like Soundgarden> >> & not like STP ? What I actually said was that I preferred STP is> >> all. I'm supposed to be wrong, how?> >> -----Original Message-----> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net> >> ]On Behalf Of Alex Smith> >> Sent: 30 January 2009 21:09> >> To: ade; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)> >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks> >> I saw Leary perform 'No Cure for Cancer' live in a tiny club in the> >> West Village, thanks.> >>> >> Hicks is funny, but has since become deified to ridiculous degrees.> >> Also, Hicks had a tiresomely sanctimonious quality to his work which> >> made me enjoy it less than Leary's.> >>> >> My opinion.> >>> >> Alex in NYC> >>> >> PS: Soundgarden is, was, and e'er shall be LIGHT YEARS better than> >> STP.> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> -----Original Message-----> >> From: ade> >> Sent: Jan 30, 2009 3:30 PM> >> To: Alex Smith , "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"> >> Subject: RE: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks> >> I get the feeling you've not actually seen the material that I argue> >> (amongst many others) Leary> >> clearly ripped from Hicks. In that case, how can you pass judgement?> >>> >> I loved Leary's 'No Cure for Cancer', until I got into Hicks. I> >> couldn't believe I was hearing the> >> same jokes VERY DISTINCTIVE jokes being repeated right back at me -> >> that totally destroyed> >> No Cure for cancer for me.> >>> >> Keep your fingers in your ears, it's only my opinion.> >> -----Original Message-----> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net> >> ]On Behalf Of Alex Smith> >> Sent: 30 January 2009 18:38> >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about> >> all things Killing Joke (the band!)'> >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks> >> The perils and ramifications of smoking aren't really "niche"> >> material. You may not like Dennis Leary -- fair enough -- but to> >> accuse him of ripping off Hicks in that capacity is pretty unfair.> >>> >> Alex in NYC> >>> >> -----Original Message-----> >> From: Brendan Quinn> >> Sent: Jan 30, 2009 12:46 PM> >> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"> >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks> >> We were comparing them because they covered similar material, that> >> I'm pretty sure Hicks came up with and Leary stole. Specifically the> >> voicebox gag. I could be wrong, but that's the accusation.> >>> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net> >> ] On Behalf Of Alex Smith> >> Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 03:59> >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about> >> all things Killing Joke (the band!)'> >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks> >>> >> You seem to be equating them merely on the fact that they're both> >> "angry" comedians. That's not much to go on. I mean, why not toss> >> Don Rickles into the mix too, then?> >>> >> Alex in NYC> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> -----Original Message-----> >> From: Brendan Quinn> >> Sent: Jan 30, 2009 10:31 AM> >> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"> >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Not a fair comparison.because?> >>> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net> >> ] On Behalf Of Alexander Smith> >> Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 23:15> >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)> >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks> >>> >>> >> Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks> >> was capable of being. I love both, but it's not really a fair> >> comparison.> >>> >> Alex in NYC> >>> >>> >>> >> On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote:> >>> >>> >> Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots> >>> >> If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=?> >>> >> Please show working.> >>> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net> >> ] On Behalf Of ade> >> Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24> >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)> >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks> >>> >> LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;)> >>> >> From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's> >> transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is> >> Denis Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because> >> there's no cure for cancer"'> >> -----Original Message-----> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net> >> ]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn> >> Sent: 29 January 2009 04:57> >> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'> >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks> >> The only other comedians I'd put in that category (and none as good> >> as Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who's a> >> surprising find actually.> >>> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8> >>> >> PS: I haven't watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but> >> from memory it's pretty cool.> >>> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net> >> ] On Behalf Of Bette Dillinger> >> Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34> >> To: gathering at misera.net> >> Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks> >>> >>> >> Hey everyone!> >> Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it. In the> >> US David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST> >> the routine of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994> >> because it was considered too "controversial". The routine that> >> sullied his relationship with the media to a degree.> >>> >> His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal> >> executor of the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but> >> then you can't make this shit up.).........> >> Damn, it has been 14 years! Are there any comedians that are flying> >> under the radar that should be checked out? I am still looking for> >> one whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour.> >>> >> Bette> >> size=2 width="100%" align=center>> >> Windows LiveT: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. 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It's a good job he's a journalist - he's always> > right...> > You know, i have to agree with his viewpoint on Denis Leary. No Cure> For Cancer was good, his performance on MTV Live was ace, but> everything after that was boring crap, including his half arsed movie> career.> > As for Soundgarden vs Stone Temple Pilots, you can take them both and> flush tem out the toilet, along with every fucking band that sounds> even REMOTELY like any of them. The ONLY band EVER out of the whole> "grunge" wave EVER worth more than two shits is Tribe After Tribe from> South Africa, the rest can go autocopulate, devour feces and perish!> > > b> Grunge hater since day one> _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: E-mail. Chat. Share. 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Or, arguing fiercely more like, because for all that this Jazz fellow was pretty funny, he was also an obstreperous bastard, and we just couldn't take his claims seriously. "We're descended from aliens, who built the pyramids" was a key theme. "I moved to Iceland to escape the apocalypse." All this, put forth aggressively, followed by "I co-wrote the New Zealand national anthem, with Mauris." "Bollocks" we said. Bit of googling the next day and it turned out he wasn't lying. But also our man 'Jazz' had failed to tell us his most outstanding claim to fame, that he was in fact Jaz Coleman, frontman of the occasionally mind-blowing post-punk outfit Killing Joke. http://www.theskinny.co.uk/article/44629-holiday-snapshorts ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos - Free Try it Now! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Mon Feb 2 19:55:15 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:55:15 -0800 Subject: [kj] ot-back from new york/washington ect References: Message-ID: Wow -- sounds like you had one fantastic time! What an incredible experience for you! Glad we crazy Americans didn't frighten you away! ; P k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: melinda grant To: thegathering mailing list Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [kj] ot-back from new york/washington ect hi karen,thanks for the welcome---well the best part was the inorguation(carnt spell that one lol) and the value for money everything was so cheap,all the people were so friendly,i just loved the snow in ny ;D and the fab ny accent--philly and new jersey,washington people were great as well and i liked the areas--of course i loved seeing my relatives many i have over there,over 30 cousins to start with to mention A FEW wow --also found out i hav welsh in my ancestry as well some blue eyed blond guy married one of my ancestor relatives way back he was a welsh man ;)--i want to return in the summer--cheers melinda ps one of my relatives is also a reverant and he is really funky and with it lol e ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: karen.weil at sddt.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:01:55 -0800 Subject: Re: [kj] ot-back from new york/washington ect Welcome back to the UK, Milinda. Hope you had a smashing time in the U.S. of A. KJ gossip? I wish -- but there *have* been trivia contests! What did you enjoy most about visiting Ameirca, BTW? Best, k.w. The States ----- Original Message ----- From: melinda grant To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 6:37 AM Subject: [kj] ot-back from new york/washington ect hi all back from my travels to new york-plus west coast of u.s.a,i know ny is west coast--so did i miss anything whilst away? any k.j gossip? any gossip about anything else lol? had a great time btw and still feel jetlagged--cheers ;) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Windows Live Hotmail just got better. 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URL: From killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com Mon Feb 2 20:21:07 2009 From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com (The Exorcist) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 20:21:07 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks In-Reply-To: <2644C4F572C84C6C976A1AA34D9DE16E@Soundgardener> References: <1672909.1233345860359.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <336397.9970.qm@web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <2644C4F572C84C6C976A1AA34D9DE16E@Soundgardener> Message-ID: <0KEG00MIOUFAW2A0@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Ha! Exactly! Do I now get a pat on the back or a kick in the ass? :) (Having an iPat kick in the ass does not count as a twofer!) At 01:12 PM 2/2/2009, Brendan Quinn wrote: >Exactly what? If you don?t want to take part in >a thread, there?s plenty on tv on I?m sure. > > >---------- >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net >[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Leigh Newton >Sent: Tuesday, 3 February 2009 04:11 >To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > >HA! Ex.Act.Ly. > >http://www.nightruiner.com >http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope >http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale > > > >From: Alex Smith >To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the >band!) ; A list about all >things Killing Joke (the band!) >Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 3:04:19 PM >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > >With all due respect, Brendan, this is like >dredging up the ol' "Eighties"/"Come As You >Are"/"Life Goes On"/"Baby, Come Back" debate. > >Alex in NYC > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Brendan Quinn >Sent: Jan 30, 2009 2:53 PM >To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks >Well, unfair in your opinion, I beg to differ based on how I see it: > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Hicks#Allegations_of_plagiarism_towards_Denis_Leary > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE4sK_yYtGQ > > >---------- >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net >[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alex Smith >Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 05:38 >To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the >band!); ' A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > >The perils and ramifications of smoking aren't >really "niche" material. You may not like Dennis >Leary -- fair enough -- but to accuse him of >ripping off Hicks in that capacity is pretty unfair. > >Alex in NYC >-----Original Message----- >From: Brendan Quinn >Sent: Jan 30, 2009 12:46 PM >To: "' A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > >We were comparing them because they covered >similar material, that I?m pretty sure Hicks >came up with and Leary stole. Specifically the >voicebox gag. I could be wrong, but that?s the accusation. > > >---------- >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net >[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alex Smith >Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 03:59 >To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the >band!); ' A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > >You seem to be equating them merely on the fact >that they're both "angry" comedians. That's not >much to go on. I mean, why not toss Don Rickles into the mix too, then? > >Alex in NYC > >-----Original Message----- >From: Brendan Quinn >Sent: Jan 30, 2009 10:31 AM >To: "' A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > >Not a fair comparison because? > > >---------- >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net >[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexander Smith >Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 23:15 >To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > >Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and >sanctimonious as Bill Hicks was capable of >being. I love both, but it's not really a fair comparison. > >Alex in NYC > > > >On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote: > > > >Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots > >If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=? > >Please show working. > > >---------- >From: >gathering-bounces at misera.net >[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] >On Behalf Of ade >Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24 >To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > >LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;) > > From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to > circulate about Leary's transformation and > subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is > Denis Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? > Answer: Because there's no cure for cancer"' >-----Original Message----- >From: >gathering-bounces at misera.net >[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On >Behalf Of Brendan Quinn >Sent: 29 January 2009 04:57 >To: ' A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks >The only other comedians I?d put in that >category (and none as good as Hicks) would be >George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who?s a surprising find actually. > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8 > >PS: I haven?t watched this in ages so apologies >if it sucks, but from memory it?s pretty cool. > > >---------- >From: >gathering-bounces at misera.net >[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] >On Behalf Of Bette Dillinger >Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34 >To: gathering at misera.net >Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > >Hey everyone! > Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try > to catch it. In the US David Letterman will be > showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the > routine of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by > Letterman in 1994 because it was considered too > "controversial". The routine that sullied his > relationship with the media to a degree. > >His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony >that the legal executor of the estate is the ex >attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make this shit up.)......... >Damn, it has been 14 years! Are there any >comedians that are flying under the radar that >should be checked out? I am still looking for >one whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour. > >Bette > >---------- >size=2 width="100%" align=center> >Windows Live?: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more >ways to connect. >Check >it out. > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering at misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering at misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com Mon Feb 2 20:22:19 2009 From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com (The Exorcist) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 20:22:19 -0500 Subject: [kj] Tribute In-Reply-To: <780016.8811.qm@web57103.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <780016.8811.qm@web57103.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0KEG00K38UHEKNH0@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> I'd be non existent! At 01:17 PM 2/2/2009, Blazingstar418 wrote: >Speaking of tribute bands..... > > I drum in a Siouxsie and the Banshees tribute band called Spellbound. >www.myspace.com/spellboundsf > > We've also got an excellent Joy Division tribute band here in San > Francisco called Dead Souls (www.myspace.com/deadsoulssf) > > Michael Garcia and I have a Sisters of Mercy tribute band called > The Reptile House (www.myspace.com/thereptilehaus) who are playing > with Dead Souls and an excellent Cure tribute called Japanese Baby > (www.myspace.com/japanesebabysf) in a few weeks. > >I know that most of you won't be making it due to things like, the >distance of thousands of miles, but I swear it'd make you feel 30 >years younger if you did! ;) > >A L P -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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At 04:14 PM 2/2/2009, Karen Weil wrote: >Say that with a smile, Ex! : ) > >k.w. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: The Exorcist >To: A list about all things Killing >Joke (the band!) >Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 9:32 PM >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > >DON'T YOU DARE TELL ME WHAT THE FUCK TO DO!!! > >:) > >At 05:44 PM 1/31/2009, Alexander Smith wrote: >>Everyone on this list needs to chill the hell out a little bit. >> >>Alex in NYC > > >---------- >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering at misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering at misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bettedillinger at live.com Mon Feb 2 20:25:28 2009 From: bettedillinger at live.com (Bette Dillinger) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 20:25:28 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks In-Reply-To: References: <2911346.1233340704779.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: No argument, Leary admitted it to Colleen McGarr (BH's fiance and manager). There were witnesses. It is documented in the UK bio of Hicks. There is also footage of BH listening to Leary's album on a Sacred Cow Productions tape when they were on their wacky way to Waco after he was done mixing RIEM. Hicks started at the age of 12 writing material.......Leary.......er, after Emerson? Hicks was living with his very fundamentalist parents at 12, so smoking was not his primary concern....he raged when the audience goaded him to continue. Leary liked the attention. But let's not talk of the past. *Smoking* is not the issue. Giving another fevered ego media air time as the latest "hip" comedian when he just stole a dying man's act is....that is the whole irony and tragedy of the BH saga. Also seeing that his poor ol' mama is the only one left to defend him is pathetic. I felt so sorry for her whilst watching that Letterman show. But forget it, he's dead. Why should we remember? Morals? Values? Wha? They mean nothing in a Post Modern world that is as advanced as ours. Unbelievable. From: wessidetempest at hotmail.comTo: vassifer at earthlink.net; gathering at misera.netDate: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:53:21 -0500Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks The argument that Leary ripped of Hicks has been on going for a looong time. There is a story that Leary didn't even start doing the smoking bitter gag until Hicks was dead. And there was something dodgy about Leary and HIcks death (as far as comments or something). Honestly I cannot be bothered. I follow the comedian world pretty regularly and so much time has passed that it's almost a moot point. Bill Hicks, who I think is excellent, is certainly not the first to be a venomous comedian that used smoking as part of the schtick. He certainly took it up a notch.When comedians die unexpectedly fans put them into some sort of stratosphere that is not always realistic.Chris Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:38:23 -0500From: vassifer at earthlink.netTo: gathering at misera.net; gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks The perils and ramifications of smoking aren't really "niche" material. You may not like Dennis Leary -- fair enough -- but to accuse him of ripping off Hicks in that capacity is pretty unfair.Alex in NYC -----Original Message----- From: Brendan Quinn Sent: Jan 30, 2009 12:46 PM To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks We were comparing them because they covered similar material, that I?m pretty sure Hicks came up with and Leary stole. Specifically the voicebox gag. I could be wrong, but that?s the accusation. From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alex SmithSent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 03:59To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks You seem to be equating them merely on the fact that they're both "angry" comedians. That's not much to go on. I mean, why not toss Don Rickles into the mix too, then? Alex in NYC -----Original Message----- From: Brendan Quinn Sent: Jan 30, 2009 10:31 AM To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks Not a fair comparison?because? From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexander SmithSent: Friday, 30 January 2009 23:15To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks was capable of being. I love both, but it's not really a fair comparison. Alex in NYC On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote: Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=? Please show working. From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of adeSent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;) >From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is Denis Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because there's no cure for cancer"' -----Original Message-----From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan QuinnSent: 29 January 2009 04:57To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks The only other comedians I?d put in that category (and none as good as Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who?s a surprising find actually. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8 PS: I haven?t watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but from memory it?s pretty cool. From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Bette DillingerSent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34To: gathering at misera.netSubject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks Hey everyone! Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it. In the US David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the routine of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994 because it was considered too "controversial". The routine that sullied his relationship with the media to a degree. His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make this shit up.).........Damn, it has been 14 years! Are there any comedians that are flying under the radar that should be checked out? I am still looking for one whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour. Bette size=2 width="100%" align=center> Windows Live?: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. Check it out. _______________________________________________Gathering mailing listGathering at misera.nethttp://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering Windows Live? Hotmail??more than just e-mail. 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Grrrrrr..... om: bq at soundgardener.co.nzTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 04:56:32 +1100Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales It seems to me like we?re in a kind of limbo state, artists are either shy of releasing new stuff until they are confident about how / which medium to do it on, either that of they have all gone to shit. Jaz pointed out in that NZ interview that Reznor has a good model for making money, with high priced collectable stuff for a smaller amount of fans?but I can?t see that working as well for newer bands as opposed to established acts. Mind you most decent bands these days seem to be the 70 / 80s / 90s bands still going or reformed anyway? And I?d prefer to see distribution going local / decentralised as opposed to getting centralised through the likes of Amazon and the big supermarkets. The idea of buying a CD in a supermarket?ugh. Feels totally wrong. From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Jerry ButsonSent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 03:49To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales Unstructured stream of consciousness: I work in the music business (when they'll let me) and, whilst I don't have any figures as to the supposed decline in CD (as opposed to any other format) sales, it's not rocket science to suppose that this is the case. The thing is the record companies used to have the monopoly on distribution. With any decline in physical sales they'll have less stuff to ship which will affect the people who sell it to the shops, make it, package it, design it, print it, put it into boxes and take it to the shops. The major companies still distribute their own physical product but they're downsizing, but it's the companies that only do distribution that are suffering (bye bye Pinnacle, EUK). Digital distribution isn't controlled by the record companies so they can't lay a claim to it in the way they did when they ran huge distribution companies. If anyone is making huge profits from distributing digital music it ain't the record cos. I just heard today that Amazon did amazin' business at Xmas. That won't hurt the record cos (though I bet Amazon drive a hard deal) but it will hurt the record retailer (bye bye Zavvi, who were caught nastily between the closing door of declining high street sales and the frame of their distributor, EUK, going bust). But the big record cos are shrewd multi-national players and they won't go down just like that, will they? They're very good at what they do, they just have to find new ways to do it, so they're busy snapping up little companies that have merchandising rights to print t-shirts et al and look at buying up rights to sell things that still make money. The thing is that the predicament the record companies find themselves in will actually make things worse for anyone who's not into mass-market rock and manufactured pop. these companies won't just give up. Like in say they're very good at what they do and it's easy to say bye bye to their bottom rung of loss-making guitar bands whilst hyping up Sugababes and X-factor winners to an ever eager army of TV fans, courtesy of the ever-hungry media who love a good rags to riches story. So more records/downloads/whatever by fewer singers get sold to more people. They won't just give up. Where this leaves OUR kind of music is questionable. On the one hand the bands of today have unprecedented levels of control over their own marketing and distribution, gaining support virally from networking sites, underage gigs and P2P sites. On the other hand no one's going to take a chance on them unless they've already shown they've got what it takes. The musician of today not only has to be a musician but also a business (wo)man and we get bombarded by more and more mediocre bands who know how to design a web site. So the record company of yesteryear (while they chose who they were going to promote and ultimately who we were going to listen to) had a purpose in that they allowed musicians to be musicians without having to worry about the other stuff, gave them a load of money (that had to be paid back in the same way as a student loan) and said to them "go and do what you do best". I don't care where the music comes from, I just love music. But the business is/was my livelihood so I have a vested interest in it continuing. Anyone still awake? jerry (the other one) 2009/1/30 Janean Lancaster I digressed a little there and didn't even mention the record companies. Yeah ? sod 'em. Money-grabbing-middle-men. From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Janean LancasterSent: 30 January 2009 15:57 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales That pretty much sums up how I feel about it too. I download in order to hear stuff, and my favourites are bought on CD. Only because I want to be able to re-rip at higher bitrates as my hard drives/ipods increase capacity. I've not paid for very many downloads. I agree about missing the old days - sitting on a bus, poring over the artwork of the goodies in your bag on the journey home from the shops. I too spend much more on gigs. If album downloads were lossless and included a nice PDF of artwork/lyrics/credits/whathaveyou that you could print off to get stuck into while listening to the music, I would be glad to see the back of CDs. And I would have so much more shelf space at home. From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan QuinnSent: 30 January 2009 15:28To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'Subject: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales Do we have many people who work in the music industry on the list? I wanted to voice an opinion about the decline in CD sales. I read these articles all the time, on tech sites and general news, about the *terrible* decline in CD sales revenue and how it's affecting Sony and Time Warner and Geffen and all the other music companies. And then I get into the comments section, and the thing that strikes me is?people seem to take the problem seriously. But I can't really see a problem? Haven't we all been bitching about record companies since the day dot? Artists and consumers alike? Aren't they the toll-booth between legitimate artists and people who would benefit from their art? Don't they artificially ratchet up the prices to consumers and down the prices to the artists, didn't they charge more for CDs than cassettes despite cassettes costing more to make (50% premium is the price I remember paying in the late 80s / early 90s in NZ, $30+ vs $20). Don't they develop these shit Britney Spears and boy bands that have no artistic merit whatsoever and pollute our youth with mediocrity and perpetuate these negative stereotypes? Didn't we have to pay a small fortune to change the media format of our collections from records or cassettes to CDs, despite having ? surely, already purchased the rights to the content? Why are they complaining that we're getting a free ride in the current conversion? Haven't the artists been complaining about being ass-raped by these guys ever since Motown records, or before? Okay, so piracy is illegal, a whole generation is getting stuff for free and artists are losing out. But are they really? Are they artists that tour? Because while my CD spend has all but dried up to a flaccid husk of its previous self, my gig spend has at least compensated, probably moreso, esp considering I have more disposable cash than when I was a destitute student and buying CDs. And if it's a tough 5-10+ year transition into the digital age?well if we do away with the record company tax / toll-booth that sits in between artists and their audience ? who cares? What did these guys do anyway? Did they scout talent that now won't come to light? Ever heard of the internet? If I can hear about fucking ThumbMan (which admittedly brightened my life for a good 45 seconds), then I'm pretty sure I'll her about the next Radiohead without Subpop telling me all about it. To me the main loss is the kids who are getting all this music for free and therefore fail to appreciate what it's like to work a shit job and save up for a few weeks to get the latest Led Zep or to flesh out their Sabbath collection, walk home with a record burning a hole in their bag, and then listen to it the whole way through while looking at the artwork and smoking some oregano their mates sold them as hash and having the single best day of their lives until the lose their virginity, but I digress?. People losing jobs isn't nice to see, but that's a whole different debate. _______________________________________________Gathering mailing listGathering at misera.nethttp://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -- fleamusic p.o. box 70 witney oxfordshire ox29 4ga u.k.tel/fax: +44 (0) 1865 881859; cell +44 (0) 7939 228435 _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? 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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:32:02 +0000From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.ukTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks >Are there any comedians that are flying under the radar that should be checked out? I am still >looking for one whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour. Mark Thomas is good, as is Rob (or does he call himself Robert these days?) Newman http://www.markthomasinfo.com/ http://www.robnewman.com/ I am currently enjoying a lot of what Tim Minchin is doing, not exactly in the same political vein but very funny all the same http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp22Rh2c-3o Marc (back from a bout of that norovirus thing) From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Bette DillingerSent: 29 January 2009 01:34To: gathering at misera.netSubject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks Hey everyone! Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it. In the US David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the routine of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994 because it was considered too "controversial". The routine that sullied his relationship with the media to a degree. His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make this shit up.).........Damn, it has been 14 years! Are there any comedians that are flying under the radar that should be checked out? I am still looking for one whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour. Bette Windows Live?: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. Check it out. This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). 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URL: From bettedillinger at live.com Mon Feb 2 20:59:45 2009 From: bettedillinger at live.com (Bette Dillinger) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 20:59:45 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: Joe Rogan and Lydia Lunch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Joe Rogan kind of scares me. Lydia Lunch kind of scares me. This is what happens when they meet. I can't believe they didn't know each other. Funnily (with a jaundiced eye) Kevin Booth, who runs shit on the Web for BH, really promoted Joe Rogan for a time. I dunno, I just feel he indeed has a collection of little shoes somewhere. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lXUd7VxuSA&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Efazed%2Eorg%2Fvideo%2F%3Fid%3D628 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nzTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:56:57 +1100Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks The only other comedians I?d put in that category (and none as good as Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who?s a surprising find actually. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8 PS: I haven?t watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but from memory it?s pretty cool. From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Bette DillingerSent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34To: gathering at misera.netSubject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks Hey everyone! Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it. In the US David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the routine of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994 because it was considered too "controversial". The routine that sullied his relationship with the media to a degree. His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make this shit up.).........Damn, it has been 14 years! Are there any comedians that are flying under the radar that should be checked out? I am still looking for one whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour. Bette Windows Live?: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. Check it out. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail? goes where you go. 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Peace) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 02:34:52 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <016d01c985a7$fedabaf0$fc9030d0$@com> Hah! Stryper! Played a festival with them once. What an absolute bunch of idiots, with no sense of humour whatsoever, which obviously made them fair game. http://stryperweb.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/wall13_1600x1200.jpg They also don't appear to know how to correctly consume custard. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Bette Dillinger Sent: 03 February 2009 01:50 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks Thank you, I will check all of them out. I know that some will disagree with me, but that being admitted, I think that the death of Bill Hicks exacerbated the la la land Miley Cyrus vacuum we are living in now in the US. I mean, can you remember the first time you saw certain acts or heard them? They are a select few. 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I'm soooooooooooo confused. *Shakes head, balls drop 13 inches* At 09:01 PM 2/2/2009, Brendan wrote: >Timewave Yos, get with the frikkin program. > >*shakes head, ages 400 years* > > > I'd be non existent! > > > > At 01:17 PM 2/2/2009, Blazingstar418 wrote: > >>Speaking of tribute bands..... > >> > >> I drum in a Siouxsie and the Banshees tribute band called Spellbound. > >>www.myspace.com/spellboundsf > >> > >> We've also got an excellent Joy Division tribute band here in San > >> Francisco called Dead Souls (www.myspace.com/deadsoulssf) > >> > >> Michael Garcia and I have a Sisters of Mercy tribute band called > >> The Reptile House (www.myspace.com/thereptilehaus) who are playing > >> with Dead Souls and an excellent Cure tribute called Japanese Baby > >> (www.myspace.com/japanesebabysf) in a few weeks. > >> > >>I know that most of you won't be making it due to things like, the > >>distance of thousands of miles, but I swear it'd make you feel 30 > >>years younger if you did! ;) > >> > >>A L P > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering at misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering at misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Mon Feb 2 22:12:57 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:12:57 +1300 (NZDT) Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks In-Reply-To: References: <2911346.1233340704779.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <60205.203.210.68.145.1233630777.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> It's funny cos Hicks does the best 'statute of limitations' bit about getting hassled for always going on about the JFK assassination. So he counters by raising the statute on Jesus and the Bible... Yeah, I don't know if the list handles differences of opinion very well, perhaps there are some Fair Fighting rules online somewhere, or perhaps it's just an awkward medium where you lose most of the context because you can't see the body language. Or perhaps it's a rich and vibrant online community where everyone is free to say what they like. But I agree with Ade about not feeling as comfortable piping up any more. I've seen the list thrash out a couple of arguments - adding OT to non-KJ posts, and deciding that short repetitive posts are okay cos censorship stifles. Thought that was progress. Interested to hear your comments. > > No argument, Leary admitted it to Colleen McGarr (BH's fiance and > manager). There were witnesses. It is documented in the UK bio of Hicks. > There is also footage of BH listening to Leary's album on a Sacred Cow > Productions tape when they were on their wacky way to Waco after he was > done mixing RIEM. > Hicks started at the age of 12 writing material.......Leary.......er, > after Emerson? Hicks was living with his very fundamentalist parents at > 12, so smoking was not his primary concern....he raged when the audience > goaded him to continue. Leary liked the attention. But let's not talk of > the past. > > *Smoking* is not the issue. Giving another fevered ego media air time as > the latest "hip" comedian when he just stole a dying man's act is....that > is the whole irony and tragedy of the BH saga. Also seeing that his poor > ol' mama is the only one left to defend him is pathetic. I felt so sorry > for her whilst watching that Letterman show. > > But forget it, he's dead. Why should we remember? Morals? Values? Wha? > They mean nothing in a Post Modern world that is as advanced as ours. > > Unbelievable. > > > > > From: wessidetempest at hotmail.comTo: vassifer at earthlink.net; > gathering at misera.netDate: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:53:21 -0500Subject: Re: [kj] > OT: Bill Hicks > > The argument that Leary ripped of Hicks has been on going for a looong > time. There is a story that Leary didn't even start doing the smoking > bitter gag until Hicks was dead. And there was something dodgy about > Leary and HIcks death (as far as comments or something). Honestly I > cannot be bothered. I follow the comedian world pretty regularly and so > much time has passed that it's almost a moot point. Bill Hicks, who I > think is excellent, is certainly not the first to be a venomous comedian > that used smoking as part of the schtick. He certainly took it up a > notch.When comedians die unexpectedly fans put them into some sort of > stratosphere that is not always realistic.Chris > > > > Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:38:23 -0500From: vassifer at earthlink.netTo: > gathering at misera.net; gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > The perils and ramifications of smoking aren't really "niche" material. > You may not like Dennis Leary -- fair enough -- but to accuse him of > ripping off Hicks in that capacity is pretty unfair.Alex in NYC > -----Original Message----- From: Brendan Quinn Sent: Jan 30, 2009 12:46 PM > To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" Subject: Re: [kj] > OT: Bill Hicks > > > > > > > > We were comparing them because they covered similar material, that I?m > pretty sure Hicks came up with and Leary stole. Specifically the voicebox > gag. I could be wrong, but that?s the accusation. > > > > > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > On Behalf Of Alex SmithSent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 03:59To: A list > about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about all things > Killing Joke (the band!)'Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > You seem to be equating them merely on the fact that they're both "angry" > comedians. That's not much to go on. I mean, why not toss Don Rickles > into the mix too, then? > Alex in NYC > > -----Original Message----- From: Brendan Quinn Sent: Jan 30, 2009 10:31 AM > To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" Subject: Re: [kj] > OT: Bill Hicks > Not a fair comparison because? > > > > > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > On Behalf Of Alexander SmithSent: Friday, 30 January 2009 23:15To: A list > about all things Killing Joke (the band!)Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > > > > Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks was > capable of being. I love both, but it's not really a fair comparison. > > > > Alex in NYC > > > > > > > > On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote: > > > > > Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots > > > > If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=? > > > > Please show working. > > > > > > > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > On Behalf Of adeSent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24To: A list about all > things Killing Joke (the band!)Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > > > > LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;) > > > > > >>From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's >> transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is Denis >> Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because there's no cure >> for cancer"' > > > -----Original Message-----From: gathering-bounces at misera.net > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan QuinnSent: 29 > January 2009 04:57To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the > band!)'Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > The only other comedians I?d put in that category (and none as good as > Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who?s a surprising > find actually. > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8 > > > > PS: I haven?t watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but from > memory it?s pretty cool. > > > > > > > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > On Behalf Of Bette DillingerSent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34To: > gathering at misera.netSubject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > > > Hey everyone! Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it. > In the US David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST > the routine of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994 > because it was considered too "controversial". The routine that sullied > his relationship with the media to a degree. His mother Mary will also > be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of the estate is the ex > attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make this shit > up.).........Damn, it has been 14 years! Are there any comedians that are > flying under the radar that should be checked out? I am still looking for > one whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour. Bette > > > > size=2 width="100%" align=center> > > Windows Live?: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. Check it > out. > _______________________________________________Gathering mailing > listGathering at misera.nethttp://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > Windows Live? Hotmail? more than just e-mail. See how it works. > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail? goes where you go. On a PC, on the Web, on your phone. > http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/learnmore/versatility.aspx#mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_WL_HM_versatility_121208 > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Mon Feb 2 22:16:56 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:16:56 +1300 (NZDT) Subject: [kj] Tribute In-Reply-To: <0KEG003GXZCSFPB1@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> References: <780016.8811.qm@web57103.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <0KEG00K38UHEKNH0@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> <26012.203.210.68.145.1233626489.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <0KEG003GXZCSFPB1@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Message-ID: <20443.203.210.68.145.1233631016.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Be-COS... you are aging faster now cos we're IN THE FUCKING TIMEWAVE, so if you go back 30 years, that's nothing. NOTHING! In fact the sound-effect and cut-away for you going back in time by 30 years would take longer than 30 years at the rate that we're hurtling into the future... > Since when does the Timewave impact the past? I thought it was only > future based. > I'm soooooooooooo confused. *Shakes head, balls drop 13 inches* > > At 09:01 PM 2/2/2009, Brendan wrote: >>Timewave Yos, get with the frikkin program. >> >>*shakes head, ages 400 years* >> >> > I'd be non existent! >> > >> > At 01:17 PM 2/2/2009, Blazingstar418 wrote: >> >>Speaking of tribute bands..... >> >> >> >> I drum in a Siouxsie and the Banshees tribute band called >> Spellbound. >> >>www.myspace.com/spellboundsf >> >> >> >> We've also got an excellent Joy Division tribute band here in San >> >> Francisco called Dead Souls (www.myspace.com/deadsoulssf) >> >> >> >> Michael Garcia and I have a Sisters of Mercy tribute band called >> >> The Reptile House (www.myspace.com/thereptilehaus) who are playing >> >> with Dead Souls and an excellent Cure tribute called Japanese Baby >> >> (www.myspace.com/japanesebabysf) in a few weeks. >> >> >> >>I know that most of you won't be making it due to things like, the >> >>distance of thousands of miles, but I swear it'd make you feel 30 >> >>years younger if you did! ;) >> >> >> >>A L P >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Gathering mailing list >> > Gathering at misera.net >> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> > >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Gathering mailing list >>Gathering at misera.net >>http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net Mon Feb 2 22:23:35 2009 From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 21:23:35 -0600 Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks In-Reply-To: <60205.203.210.68.145.1233630777.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> References: <2911346.1233340704779.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <60205.203.210.68.145.1233630777.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <4987B8B7.6030506@sbcglobal.net> Hicks was/is the Lenny Bruce of the modern era. Love that guy! I esp. like his bits about the "war on drugs" and imagining the horror at being at a show/rock concert and realizing you were surrounded by Republicans... -Oliver From killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com Mon Feb 2 23:02:38 2009 From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com (The Exorcist) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 23:02:38 -0500 Subject: [kj] Tribute In-Reply-To: <20443.203.210.68.145.1233631016.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> References: <780016.8811.qm@web57103.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <0KEG00K38UHEKNH0@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> <26012.203.210.68.145.1233626489.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <0KEG003GXZCSFPB1@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> <20443.203.210.68.145.1233631016.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <0KEH00JGO1WGBJQ0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> My head hurts :( At 10:16 PM 2/2/2009, Brendan wrote: >Be-COS... you are aging faster now cos we're IN THE FUCKING TIMEWAVE, so >if you go back 30 years, that's nothing. NOTHING! In fact the sound-effect >and cut-away for you going back in time by 30 years would take longer than >30 years at the rate that we're hurtling into the future... > > > Since when does the Timewave impact the past? I thought it was only > > future based. > > I'm soooooooooooo confused. *Shakes head, balls drop 13 inches* > > > > At 09:01 PM 2/2/2009, Brendan wrote: > >>Timewave Yos, get with the frikkin program. > >> > >>*shakes head, ages 400 years* > >> > >> > I'd be non existent! > >> > > >> > At 01:17 PM 2/2/2009, Blazingstar418 wrote: > >> >>Speaking of tribute bands..... > >> >> > >> >> I drum in a Siouxsie and the Banshees tribute band called > >> Spellbound. > >> >>www.myspace.com/spellboundsf > >> >> > >> >> We've also got an excellent Joy Division tribute band here in San > >> >> Francisco called Dead Souls (www.myspace.com/deadsoulssf) > >> >> > >> >> Michael Garcia and I have a Sisters of Mercy tribute band called > >> >> The Reptile House (www.myspace.com/thereptilehaus) who are playing > >> >> with Dead Souls and an excellent Cure tribute called Japanese Baby > >> >> (www.myspace.com/japanesebabysf) in a few weeks. > >> >> > >> >>I know that most of you won't be making it due to things like, the > >> >>distance of thousands of miles, but I swear it'd make you feel 30 > >> >>years younger if you did! ;) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com Mon Feb 2 23:21:41 2009 From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com (The Exorcist) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 23:21:41 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks In-Reply-To: <60205.203.210.68.145.1233630777.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> References: <2911346.1233340704779.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <60205.203.210.68.145.1233630777.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <0KEH00LEO2S87DK0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Brendan, Brendan Brendan, (Is that short and repetitive? ) There most definitely has and will continue to be misunderstanding. Being on-line and not observing much of what you had mentioned below is obviously the common cause. (Lost In Translation... Not the movie, It sucked!) I don't mind the petty arguments though at times it can become a bid tedious. I think the list over all sorta has a mind of its own when to stop bickering. (Trust me it beats being a "one at mind" lovefest.) Other than maybe 2 or 3 names I think the list has been more or less OK. We still get good discussions and little nuggets of information due flow forth. Still finding out new names to look up, new ideas, and new ummmmm, words, that I can use to curse people out. Even with those that I've had some major disagreements with on-line and will probably never come to agree with on certain issues, when met in person they were all nice and cordial and not even when snickering asshole off-thecuff-mark. I therefor surmise that though our view points my vary from one extreme to the other there is still an overall inherent decentness (is that a new word?) amongst many gatherers. We're just a tad rough around the edges. I think you ought continue you saying what ever the hell you wanna say and everyone else be damned. The arguments will die out eventually. I enjoy your posts as I do those from many others. I'm quite comfortable in saying that many here will support you in your right to say whatever it is that you want whether they agree or not. After all censorship errr, "The Fairness Doctrine" hasn't reached online yet. *Zing!* :) Preach on Brother Brendan! Ps. Since when do you & Ade agree on anything? The end of the world is truly coming! Much love, (not in that hippy stoned outa my mind, non showering, fashion though) Yos t 10:12 PM 2/2/2009, Brendan wrote: >It's funny cos Hicks does the best 'statute of limitations' bit about >getting hassled for always going on about the JFK assassination. So he >counters by raising the statute on Jesus and the Bible... > >Yeah, I don't know if the list handles differences of opinion very well, >perhaps there are some Fair Fighting rules online somewhere, or perhaps >it's just an awkward medium where you lose most of the context because you >can't see the body language. Or perhaps it's a rich and vibrant online >community where everyone is free to say what they like. But I agree with >Ade about not feeling as comfortable piping up any more. > >I've seen the list thrash out a couple of arguments - adding OT to non-KJ >posts, and deciding that short repetitive posts are okay cos censorship >stifles. Thought that was progress. > >Interested to hear your comments. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From angrytomhanks at yahoo.com Mon Feb 2 23:37:53 2009 From: angrytomhanks at yahoo.com (Leigh Newton) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 20:37:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ References: Message-ID: <928726.53408.qm@web65505.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Just Got Paid = awesome song. http://www.nightruiner.com http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale ________________________________ From: Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, February 2, 2009 10:46:23 AM Subject: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ Hello everyone and belated New Year greetings. What I want to know is, has anyone here ever, in the last two or even three decades, ever seen ZZ Top play? I was sat at the computer the other morning and girlfriend happens to mention that ZZ Top are playing here in Oslo. I didn't think much of it but then checked it out and they are playing a club, I guess it holds around 400 people. The tickets were going on sale that particular morning at 9am - I looked at the clock and it was 8.59, so WITHOUT THINKING I immediately went and bought a pair of tickets for um, cough, a moderately large amount of cash. (A day later, it was sold out.) What have I done? Should I be happy/excited? Someone reassure me, please... N -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 65snoopy at gmail.com Tue Feb 3 02:48:52 2009 From: 65snoopy at gmail.com (Neil Perry) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:48:52 +0100 Subject: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ In-Reply-To: <1646350c0902020855h540ff8abxedc6c8a84d384dd0@mail.gmail.com> References: <11B1865EE76C42EDBAFCF938B14F21BB@Bell2007PC> <1646350c0902020855h540ff8abxedc6c8a84d384dd0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I did not know that - I like that guy! Thought he lived in East Anglia or somewhere. 'I Started Out With Nothing And I Still Got Most Of It Left' is my favourite album title of recent years... not a bad album either. Voice sometimes reminds me of the recently departed John Martyn. 2009/2/2 iPat > Seasick steve lives in Norway, great blues! > > On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote: > > > so I don't mind those Texass blues... 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I can't believe they didn't know each other. > > Funnily (with a jaundiced eye) Kevin Booth, who runs shit on the Web for > BH, really promoted Joe Rogan for a time. I dunno, I just feel he indeed > has a collection of little shoes somewhere. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lXUd7VxuSA&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Efazed%2Eorg%2Fvideo%2F%3Fid%3D628 > From fluke1 at live.co.uk Mon Feb 2 11:53:28 2009 From: fluke1 at live.co.uk (fluke fluke) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:53:28 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Do the right thing Neil. Get rid . She obviously isn't the one , you ve been with her for how long nowq ? And you haven't taken her up the aisle yet ? Either you or her is waiting for someone better to come along . Do the right thing Neil. get rid. Sorry for being personal., but have you taken her up the aisle yet ? Females don't usually comply at first, but you need a bit of perseverance , a bit of drink sometimes helps , get her drunk then slip it in when shes unaware , pop it whens shes a bit drunk, take her out for meal, have some wine, then pop the question in a romantic setting. Don't take her up the aisle when you are drunk though , you may not remember it and some Women are content with getting taken up the aisle just once . You don't want to do the deed and then have no recollection of it afterwards From: fluke1 at live.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:56:35 +0000 Subject: Re: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ You should get rid of your Girlfriend . MadneZZiskjMadneZZisMadneZZ m: 65snoopy at gmail.com To: gathering at misera.nkj Subject: [kj]MadneZZis is MadneZZ Hello everyone and belated New Year greetings. What I want to know is, has anyone here ever, in the last two or even three decades, ever seen ZZ Top play? I was sat at the computer the other morning and girlfriend happens to mention that ZZ Top are playing here in Oslo. I didn't think much of it but then checked it out and they are playing a club, I guess it holds around 400 people. The tickets were going on sale that particular morning at 9am - I looked at the clock and it was 8.59, so WITHOUT THINKING I immediately went and bought a pair of tickets for um, cough, a moderately large amount of cash. (A day later, it was sold out.) What have I done? Should I be happy/excited? Someone reassure me, please... N Share your photos with Windows Live Photos ? Free Find out more! _________________________________________________________________ Twice the fun?Share photos while you chat with Windows Live Messenger. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/uk/windows/windowslive/products/messenger.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk Tue Feb 3 04:33:51 2009 From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk (Janean Lancaster) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 09:33:51 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ References: <928726.53408.qm@web65505.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DADB@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> << Just Got Paid = awesome song.>> I'll second that. Their Eliminator album is one of my guilty pleasures too... ________________________________ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Leigh Newton Sent: 03 February 2009 04:38 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ Just Got Paid = awesome song. http://www.nightruiner.com http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale ________________________________ From: Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, February 2, 2009 10:46:23 AM Subject: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ Hello everyone and belated New Year greetings. What I want to know is, has anyone here ever, in the last two or even three decades, ever seen ZZ Top play? I was sat at the computer the other morning and girlfriend happens to mention that ZZ Top are playing here in Oslo. I didn't think much of it but then checked it out and they are playing a club, I guess it holds around 400 people. The tickets were going on sale that particular morning at 9am - I looked at the clock and it was 8.59, so WITHOUT THINKING I immediately went and bought a pair of tickets for um, cough, a moderately large amount of cash. (A day later, it was sold out.) What have I done? Should I be happy/excited? Someone reassure me, please... N -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com Tue Feb 3 05:24:51 2009 From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:24:51 +0100 Subject: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ In-Reply-To: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DADB@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> References: <928726.53408.qm@web65505.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DADB@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> Message-ID: > << Just Got Paid = awesome song.>> I fucking love Rapeman's version of it. b From bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com Tue Feb 3 05:27:05 2009 From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:27:05 +0100 Subject: [kj] (totally OT) Train schedules In-Reply-To: References: <20090202075540.1FE401F3@resin09.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: On 2/3/09, folk devil wrote: > do what rob said...go to the ticket office, in oxford, and ask for a > ticket to bicester, they're on the same line ;) > i'd guess you want the banbury train... Sounds like a plan, except "follow Rob's advise" more or less sounds like "welcome to your death" :) Seriously though, thank you all, i think i can find my way now :) b From 65snoopy at gmail.com Tue Feb 3 05:27:45 2009 From: 65snoopy at gmail.com (Neil Perry) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:27:45 +0100 Subject: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ In-Reply-To: References: <928726.53408.qm@web65505.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DADB@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> Message-ID: Thanks - has a vague memory that Albini had done it in some incarnation but couldn't remember which one.. N 2009/2/3 Bo Krogsgaard > > << Just Got Paid = awesome song.>> > > I fucking love Rapeman's version of it. > > > b > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Obviously you've never been to Bicester as no-one visits there twice..... you have been warned my boy! www.iamscuzzy.com www.myspace.com/scuzzywear --- bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com wrote: From: Bo Krogsgaard To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Subject: Re: [kj] (totally OT) Train schedules Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:27:05 +0100 On 2/3/09, folk devil wrote: > do what rob said...go to the ticket office, in oxford, and ask for a > ticket to bicester, they're on the same line ;) > i'd guess you want the banbury train... Sounds like a plan, except "follow Rob's advise" more or less sounds like "welcome to your death" :) Seriously though, thank you all, i think i can find my way now :) b _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of www.worldmap.com) From bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com Tue Feb 3 06:34:57 2009 From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:34:57 +0100 Subject: [kj] (totally OT) Train schedules In-Reply-To: <20090203032848.1FEF66AC@resin17.mta.everyone.net> References: <20090203032848.1FEF66AC@resin17.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: On 2/3/09, Rob's Arse wrote: > Death would be better than getting stuck in Bicester Bo! Oh i can tell you stories about where (and in whom) i have been stuck in Romania, but let's not go there! b From Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk Tue Feb 3 06:44:50 2009 From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk (Janean Lancaster) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:44:50 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ References: <928726.53408.qm@web65505.mail.ac4.yahoo.com><5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DADB@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> Message-ID: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DAE4@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> That's the version I heard first. One of the best tracks on that album. > -----Original Message----- > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > On Behalf Of Bo Krogsgaard > Sent: 03 February 2009 10:25 > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ > > > << Just Got Paid = awesome song.>> > > I fucking love Rapeman's version of it. > > > b > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From angrytomhanks at yahoo.com Tue Feb 3 13:16:43 2009 From: angrytomhanks at yahoo.com (Leigh Newton) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:16:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales References: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DACE@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> <2735CB2631EC4717B703AF3691B8CEF4@NickScottPC> Message-ID: <301159.23773.qm@web65514.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> That's pretty much where it's at these days. Vinyl is huge again and CDs are more or less junk. Something about a 180 gram coloured vinyl gatefold work of art compared to some jewel-cased piece of plastic. It's all about vinyl and iTunes. Weird world. http://www.nightruiner.com http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale ----- Original Message ---- From: Bo Krogsgaard To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, February 2, 2009 7:23:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales Fun fact (if anyone gives a fuck about it) is that in 2008, vinyl sales increased by 70% here in Denmark. There's a certain duality between listening to crappy mp3's on a Nokia phone to and from work, and then being a vinyl snob when i come home. I bet Freud had something to say about that. _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From angrytomhanks at yahoo.com Tue Feb 3 13:24:06 2009 From: angrytomhanks at yahoo.com (Leigh Newton) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:24:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks References: <1672909.1233345860359.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <336397.9970.qm@web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <2644C4F572C84C6C976A1AA34D9DE16E@Soundgardener> Message-ID: <82523.43331.qm@web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Tsk, so rude. Got any more "durrr, here is evidence that this asshole ripped off this other asshole" youtube vids to show? Those never suck. http://www.nightruiner.com http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale ________________________________ From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, February 2, 2009 1:12:39 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks Exactly?what? If you don?t want to take part in a thread, there?s plenty on tv on I?m sure. ________________________________ From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Leigh Newton Sent: Tuesday, 3 February 2009 04:11 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks HA! Ex.Act.Ly. http://www.nightruiner.com http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale ________________________________ From:Alex Smith To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) ; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 3:04:19 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks With all due respect, Brendan, this is like dredging up the ol' "Eighties"/"Come As You Are"/"Life Goes On"/"Baby, Come Back" debate. Alex in NYC -----Original Message----- From: Brendan Quinn Sent: Jan 30, 2009 2:53 PM To: "' A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks Well, unfair in your opinion, I beg to differ based on how I see it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Hicks#Allegations_of_plagiarism_towards_Denis_Leary http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE4sK_yYtGQ ________________________________ From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alex Smith Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 05:38 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); ' A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks The perils and ramifications of smoking aren't really "niche" material. You may not like Dennis Leary -- fair enough -- but to accuse him of ripping off Hicks in that capacity is pretty unfair. Alex in NYC -----Original Message----- From: Brendan Quinn Sent: Jan 30, 2009 12:46 PM To: "' A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks We were comparing them because they covered similar material, that I?m pretty sure Hicks came up with and Leary stole. Specifically the voicebox gag. I could be wrong, but that?s the accusation. ________________________________ From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alex Smith Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 03:59 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); ' A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks You seem to be equating them merely on the fact that they're both "angry" comedians. That's not much to go on. I mean, why not toss Don Rickles into the mix too, then? Alex in NYC -----Original Message----- From: Brendan Quinn Sent: Jan 30, 2009 10:31 AM To: "' A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks Not a fair comparison?because? ________________________________ From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexander Smith Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 23:15 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks was capable of being. I love both, but it's not really a fair comparison. Alex in NYC On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote: Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=? Please show working. ________________________________ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;) From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is Denis Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because there's no cure for cancer"' -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 29 January 2009 04:57 To: ' A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks The only other comedians I?d put in that category (and none as good as Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who?s a surprising find actually. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8 PS: I haven?t watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but from memory it?s pretty cool. ________________________________ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Bette Dillinger Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks Hey everyone! Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it. In the US David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the routine of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994 because it was considered too "controversial". The routine that sullied his relationship with the media to a degree. His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make this shit up.)......... Damn, it has been 14 years! Are there any comedians that are flying under the radar that should be checked out? I am still looking for one whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour. Bette ________________________________ size=2 width="100%" align=center> Windows Live?: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. Check it out. _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Tue Feb 3 17:21:20 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:21:20 +1300 (NZDT) Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks In-Reply-To: <82523.43331.qm@web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <1672909.1233345860359.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <336397.9970.qm@web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <2644C4F572C84C6C976A1AA34D9DE16E@Soundgardener> <82523.43331.qm@web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <44902.203.210.68.145.1233699680.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> I'm not trying to be rude Leigh, my point is, I'm a big fan of Bill Hicks, having a yarn with others on the list about him being ripped off by Leary...so why piss on my chips? I could verbally roll my eyes about stuff others are talking about, call it old news etc...but why bother? Do you actually have a point, other than to share that it bores you? It bores me even more to know that. > Tsk, so rude. Got any more "durrr, here is evidence that this asshole > ripped off this other asshole" youtube vids to show? Those never suck. > > http://www.nightruiner.com > http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope > http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Brendan Quinn > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > > Sent: Monday, February 2, 2009 1:12:39 PM > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > > Exactly what? If you don?t want to take > part in a thread, there?s plenty on tv on I?m sure. > > > ________________________________ > > From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On > Behalf Of Leigh Newton > Sent: Tuesday, 3 February 2009 > 04:11 > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > HA! Ex.Act.Ly. > > http://www.nightruiner.com > http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope > http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale > > > > ________________________________ > > From:Alex > Smith > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > ; A list about all things Killing Joke > (the band!) > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 > 3:04:19 PM > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > With all > due respect, Brendan, this is like dredging up the ol' > "Eighties"/"Come As You Are"/"Life Goes > On"/"Baby, Come Back" debate. > Alex in > NYC > > > > > -----Original > Message----- > From: Brendan Quinn > Sent: Jan 30, 2009 2:53 PM > To: "' A list about all things Killing Joke > (the band!)'" > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > Well, unfair in your opinion, I beg to differ based on how I see > it: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Hicks#Allegations_of_plagiarism_towards_Denis_Leary > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE4sK_yYtGQ > > > ________________________________ > > From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On > Behalf Of Alex Smith > Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 > 05:38 > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); ' A list about all > things Killing Joke (the band!)' > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > The perils and ramifications of smoking aren't really > "niche" material. You may not like Dennis Leary -- fair enough -- but > to accuse him of ripping off Hicks in that capacity is pretty unfair. > Alex in NYC > -----Original Message----- > From: Brendan Quinn > Sent: Jan 30, 2009 12:46 PM > To: "' A list about all things Killing Joke > (the band!)'" > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > > We were comparing them because they covered similar material, that > I?m pretty sure Hicks came up with and Leary stole. Specifically the > voicebox gag. I could be wrong, but that?s the accusation. > > > ________________________________ > > From:gathering-bounces at misera.net > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On > Behalf Of Alex Smith > Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 > 03:59 > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); ' A list about all > things Killing Joke (the band!)' > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > You seem to be equating them merely on the fact that they're > both "angry" comedians. That's not much to go on. I mean, why not > toss Don Rickles into the mix too, then? > Alex in NYC > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brendan Quinn > Sent: Jan 30, 2009 10:31 AM > To: "' A list about all things Killing Joke > (the band!)'" > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > > > Not a fair comparison because? > > > ________________________________ > > From:gathering-bounces at misera.net > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On > Behalf Of Alexander Smith > Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 > 23:15 > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > > Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks > was capable of being. I love both, but it's not really a fair comparison. > > Alex in NYC > > > > On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote: > > > > Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots > > If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=? > > Please show working. > > > ________________________________ > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > On > Behalf Of ade > Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24 > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;) > > From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's > transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is Denis > Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because there's no cure > for > cancer"' > -----Original Message----- > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On > Behalf Of Brendan > Quinn > Sent: 29 January 2009 04:57 > To: ' A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > The only other comedians I?d put in that category (and none > as good as Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who?s a > surprising find actually. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8 > > PS: I haven?t watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, > but from memory it?s pretty cool. > > > ________________________________ > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > On > Behalf Of Bette > Dillinger > Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34 > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > > Hey everyone! > Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch > it. In the US David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 > EST the routine of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in > 1994 because it was considered too "controversial". The > routine that sullied his relationship with the media to a degree. > > His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of > the > estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make > this shit up.)......... > Damn, it has been 14 years! Are there any comedians that are > flying under the radar that should be checked out? I am still > looking for one whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour. > > Bette > > ________________________________ > > size=2 > width="100%" align=center> > Windows Live?: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to > connect. Check it out. > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com Tue Feb 3 17:41:58 2009 From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com (The Exorcist) Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:41:58 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks In-Reply-To: <44902.203.210.68.145.1233699680.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> References: <1672909.1233345860359.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <336397.9970.qm@web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <2644C4F572C84C6C976A1AA34D9DE16E@Soundgardener> <82523.43331.qm@web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <44902.203.210.68.145.1233699680.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <0KEI00C76HQ2EIF0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Because they have Trans-Fats. 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Which band did she formerly play with? 7 What sex pistols song did KJ cover? 8 which kj member described their sound as ?the earth vomiting?? 9 what position was Jaz given by the EU, in 2002? 10A How many passports does Jaz have? 10B Which countries? 11 As well as Jaz, name 2 more people who have played keyboards for the band. 12 What make AND model semi does Geordie play? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. Check it out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk Tue Feb 3 20:23:45 2009 From: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk (Jim Harper) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 01:23:45 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] Kerrang! notices... Message-ID: <399826.36755.qm@web25905.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Evening all ? This week's issue of Kerrang! features a truckload of rock/metal types listing their favourite songs. Most of their choices?are predictably atrocious, but a few rate a mention. Killing Joke come up in two lists. I can't remember who picked it, but one guy included 'The Wait'. More unusual- both in choice of song and the individual- Brodie Dalle (sp.) from the Distillers picked 'Tension'. First off, I had no idea she was into the Joke. It was also nice to see someone whose acquaintance with Killing Joke's career covers more than just their first album. Plenty of people rate 'Requiem', 'The Wait' and 'Wardance', but few ever mention anything from 'What's THIS For?!', if you see what I mean. ? JIm. NOW AVAILABLE: Flowers From Hell: The Modern Japanese Horror Film, by Jim Harper (Noir Publishing). "Fascinating overview of the Japanese horror boom... Comprehensive, in-depth and slickly presented."- DVD Monthly. Available from Noir Publishing, Amazon.co.uk, Waterstones and all good bookstores. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Tue Feb 3 20:36:29 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 17:36:29 -0800 Subject: [kj] Kerrang! notices... References: <399826.36755.qm@web25905.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1E7FA1E1A3B7450AB386BCFA3539A25E@edweil> "Tension" -- an excellent song! Best, k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Harper To: Gathering Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 5:23 PM Subject: [kj] Kerrang! notices... Evening all This week's issue of Kerrang! features a truckload of rock/metal types listing their favourite songs. Most of their choices are predictably atrocious, but a few rate a mention. Killing Joke come up in two lists. I can't remember who picked it, but one guy included 'The Wait'. More unusual- both in choice of song and the individual- Brodie Dalle (sp.) from the Distillers picked 'Tension'. First off, I had no idea she was into the Joke. It was also nice to see someone whose acquaintance with Killing Joke's career covers more than just their first album. Plenty of people rate 'Requiem', 'The Wait' and 'Wardance', but few ever mention anything from 'What's THIS For?!', if you see what I mean. JIm. NOW AVAILABLE: Flowers From Hell: The Modern Japanese Horror Film, by Jim Harper (Noir Publishing). "Fascinating overview of the Japanese horror boom... Comprehensive, in-depth and slickly presented."- DVD Monthly. 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URL: From folk.devil at hotmail.com Tue Feb 3 21:16:38 2009 From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 18:16:38 -0800 Subject: [kj] Smash hits quiz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: From: karen.weil at sddt.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 17:13:32 -0800 Subject: Re: [kj] Smash hits quiz Those are some good questions -- now where can I get the answers? ; ) k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: folk devil To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: [kj] Smash hits quiz 1 Name youth?s first band? the Rage 2 What band did Youth help form after he left kj? Brilliant 3A Name Raven?s first band? the Neon Hearts 3B Raven?s cousin formed this band, who was he and what band had he formerly been in? Steve Heart, the Suburban Studs 4 Which reggae artist is Youth named after? Big Youth 5 Which 2 prong albums did Raven play on? cleansing & rude awakening 6 Jaz collaborated with Anne Dudley for "Songs From the Victorious City". Which band did she formerly play with? the Art of Noise..plus a bunch of others came to light, including Yes! :/ 7 What sex pistols song did KJ cover? Bodies 8 which kj member described their sound as ?the earth vomiting?? Paul Fergusson 9 what position was Jaz given by the EU, in 2002? composer in residence (and i was corrected, it was 2006) 10A How many passports does Jaz have? four 10B Which countries? UK, New Zealand, Czech and Swiss 11 As well as Jaz, name 2 more people who have played keyboards for the band. John Bechdel, Reza Udhin, Nick Walker 12 What make AND model semi does Geordie play? Gibson ES295 Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. Check it out. _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_explore_012009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Tue Feb 3 21:18:54 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 18:18:54 -0800 Subject: [kj] Smash hits quiz References: Message-ID: <44FB002AADF94DF79A21E1DAB2269D95@edweil> Nice, folk! Thanks! : ) k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: folk devil To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Smash hits quiz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: karen.weil at sddt.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 17:13:32 -0800 Subject: Re: [kj] Smash hits quiz Those are some good questions -- now where can I get the answers? ; ) k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: folk devil To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: [kj] Smash hits quiz 1 Name youth?s first band? the Rage 2 What band did Youth help form after he left kj? Brilliant 3A Name Raven?s first band? the Neon Hearts 3B Raven?s cousin formed this band, who was he and what band had he formerly been in? Steve Heart, the Suburban Studs 4 Which reggae artist is Youth named after? Big Youth 5 Which 2 prong albums did Raven play on? cleansing & rude awakening 6 Jaz collaborated with Anne Dudley for "Songs From the Victorious City". Which band did she formerly play with? the Art of Noise..plus a bunch of others came to light, including Yes! :/ 7 What sex pistols song did KJ cover? Bodies 8 which kj member described their sound as ?the earth vomiting?? Paul Fergusson 9 what position was Jaz given by the EU, in 2002? composer in residence (and i was corrected, it was 2006) 10A How many passports does Jaz have? four 10B Which countries? UK, New Zealand, Czech and Swiss 11 As well as Jaz, name 2 more people who have played keyboards for the band. John Bechdel, Reza Udhin, Nick Walker 12 What make AND model semi does Geordie play? Gibson ES295 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. 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URL: From angrytomhanks at yahoo.com Wed Feb 4 00:53:27 2009 From: angrytomhanks at yahoo.com (Leigh Newton) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 21:53:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks References: <1672909.1233345860359.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <336397.9970.qm@web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <2644C4F572C84C6C976A1AA34D9DE16E@Soundgardener> <82523.43331.qm@web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <44902.203.210.68.145.1233699680.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <590936.35806.qm@web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Don't ever remember saying I was bored. I was simply agreeing with Alex. He hit the nail on the head by comparing the Leary vs Hicks arguement to the Nirvana vs Killing Joke thing. Bill Hicks is fine, sometimes really funny. Completely overrated, of course. That'll happen when you die. His best moments were when he broke from his routine and berated his audience. His meltdowns were pretty intense. Probably a couple of them floating around on youtube. Leary's standup is pretty lame but as a comedic actor, he is aces. Rescue Me is a testament to this as well as Suicide Kings. The similarities between the himself and Bill Hicks are slight at best. Post the youtube clip where Leary quotes him verbatim and things might get interesting. http://www.nightruiner.com http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale ----- Original Message ---- From: Brendan To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 5:21:20 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks I'm not trying to be rude Leigh, my point is, I'm a big fan of Bill Hicks, having a yarn with others on the list about him being ripped off by Leary...so why piss on my chips? I could verbally roll my eyes about stuff others are talking about, call it old news etc...but why bother? Do you actually have a point, other than to share that it bores you? It bores me even more to know that. > Tsk, so rude. Got any more "durrr, here is evidence that this asshole > ripped off this other asshole" youtube vids to show? Those never suck. > > http://www.nightruiner.com > http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope > http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Brendan Quinn > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > > Sent: Monday, February 2, 2009 1:12:39 PM > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > > Exactly?what? If you don?t want to take > part in a thread, there?s plenty on tv on I?m sure. > > > ________________________________ > > From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On > Behalf Of Leigh Newton > Sent: Tuesday, 3 February 2009 > 04:11 > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > HA! Ex.Act.Ly. > > http://www.nightruiner.com > http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope > http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale > > > > ________________________________ > > From:Alex > Smith > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > ; A list about all things Killing Joke > (the band!) > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 > 3:04:19 PM > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > With all > due respect, Brendan, this is like dredging up the ol' > "Eighties"/"Come As You Are"/"Life Goes > On"/"Baby, Come Back" debate. > Alex in > NYC > > > > > -----Original > Message----- > From: Brendan Quinn > Sent: Jan 30, 2009 2:53 PM > To: "' A list about all things Killing Joke > (the band!)'" > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > Well, unfair in your opinion, I beg to differ based on how I see > it: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Hicks#Allegations_of_plagiarism_towards_Denis_Leary > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE4sK_yYtGQ > > > ________________________________ > > From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On > Behalf Of Alex Smith > Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 > 05:38 > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); ' A list about all > things Killing Joke (the band!)' > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > The perils and ramifications of smoking aren't really > "niche" material. You may not like Dennis Leary -- fair enough -- but > to accuse him of ripping off Hicks in that capacity is pretty unfair. > Alex in NYC > -----Original Message----- > From: Brendan Quinn > Sent: Jan 30, 2009 12:46 PM > To: "' A list about all things Killing Joke > (the band!)'" > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > > We were comparing them because they covered similar material, that > I?m pretty sure Hicks came up with and Leary stole. Specifically the > voicebox gag. I could be wrong, but that?s the accusation. > > > ________________________________ > > From:gathering-bounces at misera.net > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On > Behalf Of Alex Smith > Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 > 03:59 > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); ' A list about all > things Killing Joke (the band!)' > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > You seem to be equating them merely on the fact that they're > both "angry" comedians. That's not much to go on. I mean, why not > toss Don Rickles into the mix too, then? > Alex in NYC > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brendan Quinn > Sent: Jan 30, 2009 10:31 AM > To: "' A list about all things Killing Joke > (the band!)'" > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > > > Not a fair comparison?because? > > > ________________________________ > > From:gathering-bounces at misera.net > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On > Behalf Of Alexander Smith > Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 > 23:15 > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > > Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks > was capable of being. I love both, but it's not really a fair comparison. > > Alex in NYC > > > > On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote: > > > > Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots > > If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=? > > Please show working. > > > ________________________________ > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > On > Behalf Of ade > Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24 > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;) > > From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's > transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is Denis > Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because there's no cure > for > cancer"' > -----Original Message----- > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On > Behalf Of Brendan > Quinn > Sent: 29 January 2009 04:57 > To: ' A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > The only other comedians I?d put in that category (and none > as good as Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who?s a > surprising find actually. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8 > > PS: I haven?t watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, > but from memory it?s pretty cool. > > > ________________________________ > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > On > Behalf Of Bette > Dillinger > Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34 > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > > Hey everyone! > Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch > it. In the US David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 > EST the routine of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in > 1994 because it was considered too "controversial". The > routine that sullied his relationship with the media to a degree. > > His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of > the > estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make > this shit up.)......... > Damn, it has been 14 years! Are there any comedians that are > flying under the radar that should be checked out? I am still > looking for one whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour. > > Bette > > ________________________________ > > size=2 > width="100%" align=center> > Windows Live?: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to > connect. Check it out. > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From karen.weil at sddt.com Tue Feb 3 14:56:56 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:56:56 -0800 Subject: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ References: Message-ID: Hi. Please excuse my confusion, but is this the Gathering or the Dr. Phil (or perhaps the Tom Likus) Show? k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: fluke fluke To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ Do the right thing Neil. Get rid . She obviously isn't the one , you ve been with her for how long nowq ? And you haven't taken her up the aisle yet ? Either you or her is waiting for someone better to come along . Do the right thing Neil. get rid. Sorry for being personal., but have you taken her up the aisle yet ? Females don't usually comply at first, but you need a bit of perseverance , a bit of drink sometimes helps , get her drunk then slip it in when shes unaware , pop it whens shes a bit drunk, take her out for meal, have some wine, then pop the question in a romantic setting. Don't take her up the aisle when you are drunk though , you may not remember it and some Women are content with getting taken up the aisle just once . You don't want to do the deed and then have no recollection of it afterwards ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: fluke1 at live.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:56:35 +0000 Subject: Re: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ You should get rid of your Girlfriend . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ MadneZZiskjMadneZZisMadneZZ m: 65snoopy at gmail.com To: gathering at misera.nkj Subject: [kj]MadneZZis is MadneZZ Hello everyone and belated New Year greetings. What I want to know is, has anyone here ever, in the last two or even three decades, ever seen ZZ Top play? I was sat at the computer the other morning and girlfriend happens to mention that ZZ Top are playing here in Oslo. I didn't think much of it but then checked it out and they are playing a club, I guess it holds around 400 people. The tickets were going on sale that particular morning at 9am - I looked at the clock and it was 8.59, so WITHOUT THINKING I immediately went and bought a pair of tickets for um, cough, a moderately large amount of cash. (A day later, it was sold out.) What have I done? Should I be happy/excited? Someone reassure me, please... N ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos ? Free Find out more! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos ? Free Find out more! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com Wed Feb 4 09:10:42 2009 From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com (The Exorcist) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 09:10:42 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: George Carlin 2nite.... Message-ID: <0KEJ00EVVOPYNS50@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> No, he's not back from the dead. But... http://stagetimemag.com/standup/?p=1811 The Kennedy Center Mark Twain Prize celebrates the life and humor of the late comedy legend George Carlin who passed away at age 71 on June 22, 2008. The announcement of Carlin's receiving the Mark Twain Prize was made a week before the comedian's passing. PBS will air the program, Wednesday, February 4 at 9P.M. ET. The 90-minute special features tributes and comic testimonials from a star-studded cast of Carlin's friends and colleagues including Jon Stewart, Bill Maher, Garry Shandling, Lily Tomlin, Denis Leary, Joan Rivers, Lewis Black, Richard Belzer and Margaret Cho. From dpeace at bigfoot.com Wed Feb 4 10:52:10 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 15:52:10 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <024801c986e0$8abb8070$a0328150$@com> It's neither; it's just Petey having forgotten his Ritalin again. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: 03 February 2009 19:57 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ Hi. Please excuse my confusion, but is this the Gathering or the Dr. Phil (or perhaps the Tom Likus) Show? k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: fluke fluke To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ Do the right thing Neil. Get rid . She obviously isn't the one , you ve been with her for how long nowq ? And you haven't taken her up the aisle yet ? Either you or her is waiting for someone better to come along . Do the right thing Neil. get rid. Sorry for being personal., but have you taken her up the aisle yet ? Females don't usually comply at first, but you need a bit of perseverance , a bit of drink sometimes helps , get her drunk then slip it in when shes unaware , pop it whens shes a bit drunk, take her out for meal, have some wine, then pop the question in a romantic setting. Don't take her up the aisle when you are drunk though , you may not remember it and some Women are content with getting taken up the aisle just once . You don't want to do the deed and then have no recollection of it afterwards _____ From: fluke1 at live.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:56:35 +0000 Subject: Re: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ Verdana;} You should get rid of your Girlfriend . _____ MadneZZiskjMadneZZisMadneZZ m: 65snoopy at gmail.com To: gathering at misera.nkj Subject: [kj]MadneZZis is MadneZZ Hello everyone and belated New Year greetings. What I want to know is, has anyone here ever, in the last two or even three decades, ever seen ZZ Top play? I was sat at the computer the other morning and girlfriend happens to mention that ZZ Top are playing here in Oslo. I didn't think much of it but then checked it out and they are playing a club, I guess it holds around 400 people. The tickets were going on sale that particular morning at 9am - I looked at the clock and it was 8.59, so WITHOUT THINKING I immediately went and bought a pair of tickets for um, cough, a moderately large amount of cash. (A day later, it was sold out.) What have I done? Should I be happy/excited? Someone reassure me, please... N _____ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos - Free Find out more! _____ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos - Free Find out more! _____ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From folk.devil at hotmail.com Wed Feb 4 11:22:48 2009 From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:22:48 -0800 Subject: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: seems we all just fell out of the 'stupid tree'. ;) From: karen.weil at sddt.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:56:56 -0800Subject: Re: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ Hi. Please excuse my confusion, but is this the Gathering or the Dr. Phil (or perhaps the Tom Likus) Show? k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: fluke fluke To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ Do the right thing Neil. Get rid . She obviously isn't the one , you ve been with her for how long nowq ? And you haven't taken her up the aisle yet ? Either you or her is waiting for someone better to come along . Do the right thing Neil. get rid. Sorry for being personal., but have you taken her up the aisle yet ? Females don't usually comply at first, but you need a bit of perseverance , a bit of drink sometimes helps , get her drunk then slip it in when shes unaware , pop it whens shes a bit drunk, take her out for meal, have some wine, then pop the question in a romantic setting. Don't take her up the aisle when you are drunk though , you may not remember it and some Women are content with getting taken up the aisle just once . You don't want to do the deed and then have no recollection of it afterwards _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_022009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fluke1 at live.co.uk Wed Feb 4 11:53:01 2009 From: fluke1 at live.co.uk (fluke fluke) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:53:01 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm not a doctor, I cant help with any Medical problems .I'm more of a Social worker , I was integral to Mels recovery when I helped her recover from her tramatic experience of being in the 7/7 bombing, when I pointed out that she wasn't actually there when the bombing took place. Not being there did aid her recovery somewhat and she therefore didnt suffer any long term effects . Do you have any problems that I can help you with ? From: karen.weil at sddt.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:56:56 -0800 Subject: Re: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ Hi. Please excuse my confusion, but is this the Gathering or the Dr. Phil (or perLikusthe Tom Likus) Show? k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: fluke fluke To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:53 AM Skjject: Re: [kj] OTMadneZZis MadneZZ Do the right thing Neil. Get rid . She obviously isn't tve one , you ve been with her nowqhow long nowq ? And you haven't taken her up the aisle yet ? Either you or her is waiting for someone better to come along . Do the right thing Neil. get rid. Sorry for being personal., but have you taken her up the aisle yet ? Females don't usually comply at first, but you need a bit of perseverance , a bit of drink sometimes helps , get her drunk then slip it in when shes unaware , pop it whens shes a bit drunk, take her out for meal, have some wine, then pop the question in a romantic setting. Don't take her up the aisle when you are drunk though , you may not remember it and some Women are content with getting taken up the aisle just once . You don't want to do the deed and then have no recollection of it afterwards From: fluke1 at live.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:56:35 +0000 Skjject: Re: [kj]MadneZZis is MadneZZ You should get rid of your GirlfriendMadneZZiskjMadneZZisMadneZZ MadneZZiskjMadneZZisMadneZZ m: 65snoopy at gmail.com kj:MadneZZisringMadneZZ.nkj Subject: [kj]MadneZZis is MadneZZ Hello everyone and belated New Year greetings. What I want to know is, has anyone here ever, in the last two or even three decades, ever seen ZZ Top play? I was sat at the computer the other morning and girlfriend happens to mention that ZZ Top are playing here in Oslo. I didn't think much of it but then checked it out and they are playing a club, I guess it holds around 400 people. The tickets were going on sale that particular morning at 9am - I looked at the clock and it was 8.59, so WITHOUT THINKING I immediately went and bought a pair of tickets for um, cough, a moderately large amount of cash. (A day later, it was sold out.) What have I done? Should I be happy/excited? Someone reassure me, please... N Share your photos with Windows Live Photos ? Free Find out more! Share your photos with Windows Live Photos ? Free Find out more! _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Messenger just got better .Video display pics, contact updates & more. http://www.download.live.com/messenger -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From planetary at socal.rr.com Wed Feb 4 11:39:42 2009 From: planetary at socal.rr.com (The Mighty TB) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:39:42 -0800 Subject: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ In-Reply-To: <024801c986e0$8abb8070$a0328150$@com> References: <024801c986e0$8abb8070$a0328150$@com> Message-ID: "Darren A. Peace" wrote: > It's neither; it's just Petey having forgotten his Ritalin again. HA! T.B. From karen.weil at sddt.com Wed Feb 4 13:18:36 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 10:18:36 -0800 Subject: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ References: Message-ID: <668AD5E5D7D745CEBF51AB232FAF902B@edweil> Well, thank you. I'll make note of that -- and have that tree removed! ; ) Cheers, k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: folk devil To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ seems we all just fell out of the 'stupid tree'. ;) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: karen.weil at sddt.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:56:56 -0800 Subject: Re: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ Hi. Please excuse my confusion, but is this the Gathering or the Dr. Phil (or perhaps the Tom Likus) Show? k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: fluke fluke To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ Do the right thing Neil. Get rid . She obviously isn't the one , you ve been with her for how long nowq ? And you haven't taken her up the aisle yet ? Either you or her is waiting for someone better to come along . Do the right thing Neil. get rid. Sorry for being personal., but have you taken her up the aisle yet ? Females don't usually comply at first, but you need a bit of perseverance , a bit of drink sometimes helps , get her drunk then slip it in when shes unaware , pop it whens shes a bit drunk, take her out for meal, have some wine, then pop the question in a romantic setting. 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URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Wed Feb 4 13:19:24 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 10:19:24 -0800 Subject: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ References: Message-ID: <3C608C0D73804858A6AEBFB6CE0708AC@edweil> Tell you what, fluke: The moment I do, I'll give your office a call. ; ) Keep on truckin', k.w. the USA ----- Original Message ----- From: fluke fluke To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ I'm not a doctor, I cant help with any Medical problems . I'm more of a Social worker , I was integral to Mels recovery when I helped her recover from her tramatic experience of being in the 7/7 bombing, when I pointed out that she wasn't actually there when the bombing took place. Not being there did aid her recovery somewhat and she therefore didnt suffer any long term effects . Do you have any problems that I can help you with ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: karen.weil at sddt.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:56:56 -0800 Subject: Re: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ Hi. Please excuse my confusion, but is this the Gathering or the Dr. Phil (or perLikusthe Tom Likus) Show? k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: fluke fluke To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:53 AM Skjject: Re: [kj] OTMadneZZis MadneZZ Do the right thing Neil. Get rid . She obviously isn't tve one , you ve been with her nowqhow long nowq ? And you haven't taken her up the aisle yet ? Either you or her is waiting for someone better to come along . Do the right thing Neil. get rid. Sorry for being personal., but have you taken her up the aisle yet ? Females don't usually comply at first, but you need a bit of perseverance , a bit of drink sometimes helps , get her drunk then slip it in when shes unaware , pop it whens shes a bit drunk, take her out for meal, have some wine, then pop the question in a romantic setting. Don't take her up the aisle when you are drunk though , you may not remember it and some Women are content with getting taken up the aisle just once . You don't want to do the deed and then have no recollection of it afterwards ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fluke1 at live.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:56:35 +0000 Skjject: Re: [kj]MadneZZis is MadneZZ You should get rid of your GirlfriendMadneZZiskjMadneZZisMadneZZ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MadneZZiskjMadneZZisMadneZZ m: 65snoopy at gmail.com kj:MadneZZisringMadneZZ.nkj Subject: [kj]MadneZZis is MadneZZ Hello everyone and belated New Year greetings. What I want to know is, has anyone here ever, in the last two or even three decades, ever seen ZZ Top play? I was sat at the computer the other morning and girlfriend happens to mention that ZZ Top are playing here in Oslo. I didn't think much of it but then checked it out and they are playing a club, I guess it holds around 400 people. The tickets were going on sale that particular morning at 9am - I looked at the clock and it was 8.59, so WITHOUT THINKING I immediately went and bought a pair of tickets for um, cough, a moderately large amount of cash. (A day later, it was sold out.) What have I done? Should I be happy/excited? Someone reassure me, please... N ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Share your photos with Windows Live Photos ? Free Find out more! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Share your photos with Windows Live Photos ? Free Find out more! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos ? 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Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: 03 February 2009 19:57 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ Hi. Please excuse my confusion, but is this the Gathering or the Dr. Phil (or perhaps the Tom Likus) Show? k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: fluke fluke To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ Do the right thing Neil. Get rid . She obviously isn't the one , you ve been with her for how long nowq ? And you haven't taken her up the aisle yet ? Either you or her is waiting for someone better to come along . Do the right thing Neil. get rid. Sorry for being personal., but have you taken her up the aisle yet ? Females don't usually comply at first, but you need a bit of perseverance , a bit of drink sometimes helps , get her drunk then slip it in when shes unaware , pop it whens shes a bit drunk, take her out for meal, have some wine, then pop the question in a romantic setting. Don't take her up the aisle when you are drunk though , you may not remember it and some Women are content with getting taken up the aisle just once . You don't want to do the deed and then have no recollection of it afterwards ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fluke1 at live.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:56:35 +0000 Subject: Re: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ Verdana;} You should get rid of your Girlfriend . ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MadneZZiskjMadneZZisMadneZZ m: 65snoopy at gmail.com To: gathering at misera.nkj Subject: [kj]MadneZZis is MadneZZ Hello everyone and belated New Year greetings. What I want to know is, has anyone here ever, in the last two or even three decades, ever seen ZZ Top play? I was sat at the computer the other morning and girlfriend happens to mention that ZZ Top are playing here in Oslo. I didn't think much of it but then checked it out and they are playing a club, I guess it holds around 400 people. The tickets were going on sale that particular morning at 9am - I looked at the clock and it was 8.59, so WITHOUT THINKING I immediately went and bought a pair of tickets for um, cough, a moderately large amount of cash. (A day later, it was sold out.) What have I done? Should I be happy/excited? Someone reassure me, please... N ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Share your photos with Windows Live Photos - Free Find out more! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Share your photos with Windows Live Photos - Free Find out more! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Wed Feb 4 13:24:43 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 10:24:43 -0800 Subject: [kj] OT: George Carlin 2nite.... References: <0KEJ00EVVOPYNS50@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Message-ID: <97B05181D3EF4A36A4FA4D9401A84F61@edweil> And a well-deserved one, at that! : ) k..w. ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Exorcist" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 6:10 AM Subject: [kj] OT: George Carlin 2nite.... > No, he's not back from the dead. But... > > http://stagetimemag.com/standup/?p=1811 > > The Kennedy Center Mark Twain Prize celebrates the life and humor of > the late comedy legend George Carlin who passed away at age 71 on > June 22, 2008. The announcement of Carlin's receiving the Mark Twain > Prize was made a week before the comedian's passing. PBS will air the > program, Wednesday, February 4 at 9P.M. ET. The 90-minute special > features tributes and comic testimonials from a star-studded cast of > Carlin's friends and colleagues including Jon Stewart, Bill Maher, > Garry Shandling, Lily Tomlin, Denis Leary, Joan Rivers, Lewis Black, > Richard Belzer and Margaret Cho. > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From 65snoopy at gmail.com Wed Feb 4 15:08:04 2009 From: 65snoopy at gmail.com (Neil Perry) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:08:04 +0100 Subject: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ In-Reply-To: References: <024801c986e0$8abb8070$a0328150$@com> Message-ID: Like I said - MadneZZzzz... I thought there was the smell of West in the air. Anyway, what with the lack of exciting KJ news after such a bumper 2008, I am now officially looking forward to seeing ZZ Top. 2009/2/4 Karen Weil > Ahhhh, I see. Well, that explains it! ; ) > > k.w. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Darren A. Peace > *To:* 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 04, 2009 7:52 AM > *Subject:* Re: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ > > It's neither; it's just Petey having forgotten his Ritalin again. > > > > Darren > > Hungerford, UK > > > > *From:* gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > *On Behalf Of *Karen Weil > *Sent:* 03 February 2009 19:57 > *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > *Subject:* Re: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ > > > > Hi. Please excuse my confusion, but is this the Gathering or the Dr. Phil > (or perhaps the Tom Likus) Show? > > > > k.w. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* fluke fluke > > *To:* gathering at misera.net > > *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2009 8:53 AM > > *Subject:* Re: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ > > > > > Do the right thing Neil. Get rid . She obviously isn't the one , you *ve*been with her for how long nowq ? And you haven't taken her up the aisle yet > ? Either you or her is waiting for someone better to come along . Do the > right thing Neil. get rid. > Sorry for being personal., but have you taken her up the aisle yet ? > Females don't usually comply at first, but you need a bit of perseverance , > a bit of drink sometimes helps , get her drunk then slip it in when shes > unaware , pop it whens shes a bit drunk, take her out for meal, have some > wine, then pop the question in a romantic setting. > Don't take her up the aisle when you are drunk though , you may not > remember it and some Women are content with getting taken up the aisle just > once . You don't want to do the deed and then have no recollection of it > afterwards > > > ------------------------------ > > From: fluke1 at live.co.uk > To: gathering at misera.net > Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:56:35 +0000 > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ > > *Verdana*;} > You should get rid of your Girlfriend . > > > ------------------------------ > > MadneZZiskjMadneZZisMadneZZ > m: 65snoopy at gmail.com > To: gathering at misera.nkj > Subject: [kj]MadneZZis is MadneZZ > > Hello everyone and belated New Year greetings. > > What I want to know is, has anyone here ever, in the last two or even three > decades, > ever seen ZZ Top play? > > I was sat at the computer the other morning and girlfriend happens to > mention that > ZZ Top are playing here in Oslo. I didn't think much of it but then checked > it out > and they are playing a club, I guess it holds around 400 people. The > tickets were > going on sale that particular morning at 9am - I looked at the clock and it > was > 8.59, so WITHOUT THINKING I immediately went and bought a pair of tickets > for > um, cough, a moderately large amount of cash. (A day later, it was sold > out.) > > What have I done? Should I be happy/excited? > > Someone reassure me, please... > > N > > ------------------------------ > > Share your photos with Windows Live Photos ? Free Find out more! > ------------------------------ > > Share your photos with Windows Live Photos ? 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URL: From fluke1 at live.co.uk Wed Feb 4 15:27:19 2009 From: fluke1 at live.co.uk (fluke fluke) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 20:27:19 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ In-Reply-To: References: <024801c986e0$8abb8070$a0328150$@com> Message-ID: You should make a Night out of it Neil, after the gig, you should take her up ther Oxo tower. http://www.harveynichols.com/output/Page128.asp Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:08:04 +0100 From: 65snoopy at gmail.com To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ Like I said - MadneZZzzz... I thought there was the smell of West in the air. Anyway, what with the lack of exciting KJ news after such a bumper 2008, I am now officially looking forward to seeing ZZ Top. 2009/2/4 Karen Weil Ahhhh, I see. Well, that explains it! ; ) k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren A. Peace To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ It's neither; it's just Petey having forgotten his Ritalin again. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: 03 February 2009 19:57 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ Hi. Please excuse my confusion, but is this the Gathering or the Dr. Phil (or perhaps the Tom Likus) Show? k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: fluke fluke To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ Do the right thing Neil. Get rid . She obviously isn't the one , you ve been with her for how long nowq ? And you haven't taken her up the aisle yet ? Either you or her is waiting for someone better to come along . Do the right thing Neil. get rid. Sorry for being personal., but have you taken her up the aisle yet ? Females don't usually comply at first, but you need a bit of perseverance , a bit of drink sometimes helps , get her drunk then slip it in when shes unaware , pop it whens shes a bit drunk, take her out for meal, have some wine, then pop the question in a romantic setting. Don't take her up the aisle when you are drunk though , you may not remember it and some Women are content with getting taken up the aisle just once . You don't want to do the deed and then have no recollection of it afterwards From: fluke1 at live.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:56:35 +0000 Subject: Re: [kj] OT: This is MadneZZ Verdana;} You should get rid of your Girlfriend . MadneZZiskjMadneZZisMadneZZ m: 65snoopy at gmail.com To: gathering at misera.nkj Subject: [kj]MadneZZis is MadneZZ Hello everyone and belated New Year greetings. What I want to know is, has anyone here ever, in the last two or even three decades, ever seen ZZ Top play? I was sat at the computer the other morning and girlfriend happens to mention that ZZ Top are playing here in Oslo. I didn't think much of it but then checked it out and they are playing a club, I guess it holds around 400 people. The tickets were going on sale that particular morning at 9am - I looked at the clock and it was 8.59, so WITHOUT THINKING I immediately went and bought a pair of tickets for um, cough, a moderately large amount of cash. (A day later, it was sold out.) What have I done? Should I be happy/excited? Someone reassure me, please... N Share your photos with Windows Live Photos ? Free Find out more! Share your photos with Windows Live Photos ? Free Find out more! _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Love Hotmail?? Check out the new services from Windows Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/132630768/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From planetary at socal.rr.com Wed Feb 4 18:00:03 2009 From: planetary at socal.rr.com (The Mighty TB) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 15:00:03 -0800 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? In-Reply-To: References: <024801c986e0$8abb8070$a0328150$@com> Message-ID: <6E00D9BB64DD4A71B27510B9C8ECED64@Bell2007PC> This is a rumor but it seems to have some legs to it. Anyone know one way or the other? T.B. From vassifer at earthlink.net Wed Feb 4 18:17:56 2009 From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alexander Smith) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:17:56 -0500 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? In-Reply-To: <6E00D9BB64DD4A71B27510B9C8ECED64@Bell2007PC> References: <024801c986e0$8abb8070$a0328150$@com> <6E00D9BB64DD4A71B27510B9C8ECED64@Bell2007PC> Message-ID: Whoa! Horrible if true. Alex in NYC On Feb 4, 2009, at 6:00 PM, The Mighty TB wrote: > This is a rumor but it seems to have some legs to it. Anyone know > one way or the other? > > T.B. > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From vassifer at earthlink.net Wed Feb 4 18:18:25 2009 From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alexander Smith) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:18:25 -0500 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? In-Reply-To: <6E00D9BB64DD4A71B27510B9C8ECED64@Bell2007PC> References: <024801c986e0$8abb8070$a0328150$@com> <6E00D9BB64DD4A71B27510B9C8ECED64@Bell2007PC> Message-ID: <74755904-7C2C-45C7-A72A-20F38073D6F8@earthlink.net> Here it is; http://blog.limewire.com/posts/4834-R-I-P-Lux-Interior-of-the-Cramps- On Feb 4, 2009, at 6:00 PM, The Mighty TB wrote: > This is a rumor but it seems to have some legs to it. Anyone know > one way or the other? > > T.B. > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From folk.devil at hotmail.com Wed Feb 4 18:26:35 2009 From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 15:26:35 -0800 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? In-Reply-To: <74755904-7C2C-45C7-A72A-20F38073D6F8@earthlink.net> References: <024801c986e0$8abb8070$a0328150$@com> <6E00D9BB64DD4A71B27510B9C8ECED64@Bell2007PC> <74755904-7C2C-45C7-A72A-20F38073D6F8@earthlink.net> Message-ID: there is still no official source...> From: vassifer at earthlink.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:18:25 -0500> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead?> > > Here it is;> > http://blog.limewire.com/posts/4834-R-I-P-Lux-Interior-of-the-Cramps-> > > On Feb 4, 2009, at 6:00 PM, The Mighty TB wrote:> > > This is a rumor but it seems to have some legs to it. Anyone know > > one way or the other?> >> > T.B.> > _______________________________________________> > Gathering mailing list> > Gathering at misera.net> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_howitworks_022009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vassifer at earthlink.net Wed Feb 4 18:58:48 2009 From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alexander Smith) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:58:48 -0500 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? In-Reply-To: References: <024801c986e0$8abb8070$a0328150$@com> <6E00D9BB64DD4A71B27510B9C8ECED64@Bell2007PC> <74755904-7C2C-45C7-A72A-20F38073D6F8@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <77F22393-4441-4D1C-A3C6-6E16E1E3E752@earthlink.net> Here's official word: http://www.thedailyswarm.com/headlines/cramps-lux-interior-rip/ On Feb 4, 2009, at 6:26 PM, folk devil wrote: > there is still no official source... > > > From: vassifer at earthlink.net > > To: gathering at misera.net > > Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:18:25 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? > > > > > > Here it is; > > > > http://blog.limewire.com/posts/4834-R-I-P-Lux-Interior-of-the- > Cramps- > > > > > > On Feb 4, 2009, at 6:00 PM, The Mighty TB wrote: > > > > > This is a rumor but it seems to have some legs to it. Anyone know > > > one way or the other? > > > > > > T.B. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Gathering mailing list > > > Gathering at misera.net > > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering at misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > Windows Live?: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. See > how it works. _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From planetary at socal.rr.com Wed Feb 4 19:19:49 2009 From: planetary at socal.rr.com (The Mighty TB) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:19:49 -0800 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? In-Reply-To: <77F22393-4441-4D1C-A3C6-6E16E1E3E752@earthlink.net> References: <024801c986e0$8abb8070$a0328150$@com><6E00D9BB64DD4A71B27510B9C8ECED64@Bell2007PC><74755904-7C2C-45C7-A72A-20F38073D6F8@earthlink.net> <77F22393-4441-4D1C-A3C6-6E16E1E3E752@earthlink.net> Message-ID: "Alexander Smith" wrote: Here's official word: http://www.thedailyswarm.com/headlines/cramps-lux-interior-rip/ ++++++++ Fuck. The Cramps were up in my all-time top 10 favorite bands. I saw them about half a dozen times dating back to the mid 80's with bands like Social Distortion opening. Regrettably never got to see them with Brian Gregory. Last time I saw them was a few years ago on their last tour around Halloween with the also great Demolition Doll Rods supporting at the Hollywood House of Blues. Fucking kick ass show. Pretty bummed today. T.B. From dpeace at bigfoot.com Wed Feb 4 19:32:32 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 00:32:32 -0000 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? In-Reply-To: <77F22393-4441-4D1C-A3C6-6E16E1E3E752@earthlink.net> References: <024801c986e0$8abb8070$a0328150$@com> <6E00D9BB64DD4A71B27510B9C8ECED64@Bell2007PC> <74755904-7C2C-45C7-A72A-20F38073D6F8@earthlink.net> <77F22393-4441-4D1C-A3C6-6E16E1E3E752@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <02aa01c98729$3c763b00$b562b100$@com> That's sad news. I saw some fantastic Cramps gigs. Irrelevant anecdote - I was at boarding school with the jockey Richard Dunwoody (he was in the year above me), and he was going into town one afternoon. I asked him to pick up the first Cramps album for me. I was rather disappointed when he returned empty-handed. It seems he had been into the only record shop in Cirencester asking for the new album by the Craps. Darren Hugerford From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexander Smith Sent: 04 February 2009 23:59 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? Here's official word: http://www.thedailyswarm.com/headlines/cramps-lux-interior-rip/ On Feb 4, 2009, at 6:26 PM, folk devil wrote: there is still no official source... > From: vassifer at earthlink.net > To: gathering at misera.net > Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:18:25 -0500 > Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? > > > Here it is; > > http://blog.limewire.com/posts/4834-R-I-P-Lux-Interior-of-the-Cramps- > > > On Feb 4, 2009, at 6:00 PM, The Mighty TB wrote: > > > This is a rumor but it seems to have some legs to it. Anyone know > > one way or the other? > > > > T.B. > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering at misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____ Windows LiveT: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. See how it works. _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Wed Feb 4 20:28:17 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:28:17 -0800 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? References: <024801c986e0$8abb8070$a0328150$@com> <6E00D9BB64DD4A71B27510B9C8ECED64@Bell2007PC> Message-ID: Yes, he died today. http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/cramps-frontman-lux-interior-dies-1003938315.story Very sad to hear. k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Mighty TB" To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 3:00 PM Subject: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? > This is a rumor but it seems to have some legs to it. Anyone know one way > or the other? > > T.B. > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From karen.weil at sddt.com Wed Feb 4 20:30:28 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:30:28 -0800 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? References: <024801c986e0$8abb8070$a0328150$@com><6E00D9BB64DD4A71B27510B9C8ECED64@Bell2007PC> Message-ID: <77F20B18CE3245A89388A61D644ADC29@edweil> Yes, unfortunatley it is. He was truly a great, outrageous frontman. I got to see the Cramps in '95; one hell of a show. k.w. California ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexander Smith" To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? > Whoa! Horrible if true. > > Alex in NYC > > On Feb 4, 2009, at 6:00 PM, The Mighty TB wrote: > >> This is a rumor but it seems to have some legs to it. Anyone know one >> way or the other? >> >> T.B. >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From vassifer at earthlink.net Wed Feb 4 20:41:41 2009 From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alexander Smith) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 20:41:41 -0500 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? In-Reply-To: <77F20B18CE3245A89388A61D644ADC29@edweil> References: <024801c986e0$8abb8070$a0328150$@com><6E00D9BB64DD4A71B27510B9C8ECED64@Bell2007PC> <77F20B18CE3245A89388A61D644ADC29@edweil> Message-ID: <4E3B7D74-B605-49D2-A772-DC81E688B788@earthlink.net> First heard them in `85 (via GRAVEST HITS and A DATE WITH ELIVS). Saw them in `90. AMAZING performer. We will not see his like again. 2009 kinda fuckin' sucks so far. Alex in NYC On Feb 4, 2009, at 8:30 PM, Karen Weil wrote: > Yes, unfortunatley it is. He was truly a great, outrageous frontman. > I got to see the Cramps in '95; one hell of a show. > > > k.w. > California > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexander Smith" > > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" > > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 3:17 PM > Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? > > >> Whoa! Horrible if true. >> >> Alex in NYC >> >> On Feb 4, 2009, at 6:00 PM, The Mighty TB wrote: >> >>> This is a rumor but it seems to have some legs to it. Anyone >>> know one way or the other? >>> >>> T.B. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gathering mailing list >>> Gathering at misera.net >>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk Wed Feb 4 20:46:45 2009 From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk (jo) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 01:46:45 -0000 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? References: <024801c986e0$8abb8070$a0328150$@com><6E00D9BB64DD4A71B27510B9C8ECED64@Bell2007PC> Message-ID: <013e01c98733$9a0d6220$0100000a@jo> Bad, bad news. Hmmm, born in '46 and was 52? Didn't the Swarm say he was born in '48? No one actually knows his DOB - do they? We all know that he's a vampire. Existing heart problems my arse - this is a wooden stake story if ever I've heard one. > Yes, he died today. > http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/cramps-frontman-lux-interior-dies-1003938315.story > > Very sad to hear. > > > k.w. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "The Mighty TB" > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" > > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 3:00 PM > Subject: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? > > >> This is a rumor but it seems to have some legs to it. Anyone know one >> way or the other? >> >> T.B. >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From planetary at socal.rr.com Wed Feb 4 20:49:37 2009 From: planetary at socal.rr.com (The Mighty TB) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:49:37 -0800 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? In-Reply-To: <013e01c98733$9a0d6220$0100000a@jo> References: <024801c986e0$8abb8070$a0328150$@com><6E00D9BB64DD4A71B27510B9C8ECED64@Bell2007PC> <013e01c98733$9a0d6220$0100000a@jo> Message-ID: "jo" wrote: > Bad, bad news. > > Hmmm, born in '46 and was 52? Didn't the Swarm say he was born in '48? > No one actually knows his DOB - do they? We all know that he's a vampire. > Existing heart problems my arse - this is a wooden stake story if ever > I've heard one. I'm pretty sure Lux was born on 10/21/48. T.B. From jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk Wed Feb 4 21:02:40 2009 From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk (jo) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 02:02:40 -0000 Subject: [kj] Lux is undead no more? References: <024801c986e0$8abb8070$a0328150$@com><6E00D9BB64DD4A71B27510B9C8ECED64@Bell2007PC><013e01c98733$9a0d6220$0100000a@jo> Message-ID: <018001c98735$d365cb50$0100000a@jo> > I'm pretty sure Lux was born on 10/21/48. > > T.B. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: I think you're right. From bettedillinger at live.com Wed Feb 4 21:04:43 2009 From: bettedillinger at live.com (Bette Dillinger) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:04:43 -0500 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? In-Reply-To: <4E3B7D74-B605-49D2-A772-DC81E688B788@earthlink.net> References: <024801c986e0$8abb8070$a0328150$@com><6E00D9BB64DD4A71B27510B9C8ECED64@Bell2007PC> <77F20B18CE3245A89388A61D644ADC29@edweil> <4E3B7D74-B605-49D2-A772-DC81E688B788@earthlink.net> Message-ID: They were one and are one of my favorite bands. "New Kind of Kick" is such a classic. I am stunned this didn't get any attention. I saw more about the guitarist for the Stooges moving on. They broke the mould with Lux Interior. I honestly am overwhelmed. > From: vassifer at earthlink.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 20:41:41 -0500> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead?> > > First heard them in `85 (via GRAVEST HITS and A DATE WITH ELIVS). Saw > them in `90. AMAZING performer. We will not see his like again.> > 2009 kinda fuckin' sucks so far.> > Alex in NYC> > > On Feb 4, 2009, at 8:30 PM, Karen Weil wrote:> > > Yes, unfortunatley it is. He was truly a great, outrageous frontman. > > I got to see the Cramps in '95; one hell of a show.> >> >> > k.w.> > California> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexander Smith" > >> > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" > >> > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 3:17 PM> > Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead?> >> >> >> Whoa! Horrible if true.> >>> >> Alex in NYC> >>> >> On Feb 4, 2009, at 6:00 PM, The Mighty TB wrote:> >>> >>> This is a rumor but it seems to have some legs to it. Anyone > >>> know one way or the other?> >>>> >>> T.B.> >>> _______________________________________________> >>> Gathering mailing list> >>> Gathering at misera.net> >>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> >>> >> _______________________________________________> >> Gathering mailing list> >> Gathering at misera.net> >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> >> > _______________________________________________> > Gathering mailing list> > Gathering at misera.net> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_022009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Bottom line: A hack who appropriates the talents of a gifted dying performer, takes his routine after his death (as well as taking copious notes and making NCFC before the body was interred) and subsequently profits off it is morally and emotionally bankrupt. This is not an intellectual exercise. He needs a right good kick in the arse, and I am being kind. As you were. Bette > Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 21:53:27 -0800> From: angrytomhanks at yahoo.com> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks> > Don't ever remember saying I was bored. I was simply agreeing with Alex. He hit the nail on the head by comparing the Leary vs Hicks arguement to the Nirvana vs Killing Joke thing. > > Bill Hicks is fine, sometimes really funny. Completely overrated, of course. That'll happen when you die. His best moments were when he broke from his routine and berated his audience. His meltdowns were pretty intense. Probably a couple of them floating around on youtube. > > Leary's standup is pretty lame but as a comedic actor, he is aces. Rescue Me is a testament to this as well as Suicide Kings. The similarities between the himself and Bill Hicks are slight at best. Post the youtube clip where Leary quotes him verbatim and things might get interesting. > > > > http://www.nightruiner.com> http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope> http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale> > > > ----- Original Message ----> From: Brendan > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 5:21:20 PM> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks> > I'm not trying to be rude Leigh, my point is, I'm a big fan of Bill Hicks,> having a yarn with others on the list about him being ripped off by> Leary...so why piss on my chips? I could verbally roll my eyes about stuff> others are talking about, call it old news etc...but why bother? Do you> actually have a point, other than to share that it bores you? It bores me> even more to know that.> > > Tsk, so rude. Got any more "durrr, here is evidence that this asshole> > ripped off this other asshole" youtube vids to show? Those never suck.> >> > http://www.nightruiner.com> > http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope> > http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale> >> >> >> >> > ________________________________> > From: Brendan Quinn > > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)> > > > Sent: Monday, February 2, 2009 1:12:39 PM> > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks> >> >> > Exactly?what? If you don?t want to take> > part in a thread, there?s plenty on tv on I?m sure.> >> >> > ________________________________> >> > From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On> > Behalf Of Leigh Newton> > Sent: Tuesday, 3 February 2009> > 04:11> > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)> > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks> >> > HA! Ex.Act.Ly.> >> > http://www.nightruiner.com> > http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope> > http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale> >> >> >> > ________________________________> >> > From:Alex> > Smith > > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)> > ; A list about all things Killing Joke> > (the band!) > > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009> > 3:04:19 PM> > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks> > With all> > due respect, Brendan, this is like dredging up the ol'> > "Eighties"/"Come As You Are"/"Life Goes> > On"/"Baby, Come Back" debate.> > Alex in> > NYC> >> >> >> >> > -----Original> > Message-----> > From: Brendan Quinn> > Sent: Jan 30, 2009 2:53 PM> > To: "' A list about all things Killing Joke> > (the band!)'"> > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks> > Well, unfair in your opinion, I beg to differ based on how I see> > it:> >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Hicks#Allegations_of_plagiarism_towards_Denis_Leary> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE4sK_yYtGQ> >> >> > ________________________________> >> > From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On> > Behalf Of Alex Smith> > Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009> > 05:38> > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); ' A list about all> > things Killing Joke (the band!)'> > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks> >> > The perils and ramifications of smoking aren't really> > "niche" material. You may not like Dennis Leary -- fair enough -- but> > to accuse him of ripping off Hicks in that capacity is pretty unfair.> > Alex in NYC> > -----Original Message-----> > From: Brendan Quinn> > Sent: Jan 30, 2009 12:46 PM> > To: "' A list about all things Killing Joke> > (the band!)'"> > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks> >> >> > We were comparing them because they covered similar material, that> > I?m pretty sure Hicks came up with and Leary stole. Specifically the> > voicebox gag. I could be wrong, but that?s the accusation.> >> >> > ________________________________> >> > From:gathering-bounces at misera.net> > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On> > Behalf Of Alex Smith> > Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009> > 03:59> > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); ' A list about all> > things Killing Joke (the band!)'> > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks> >> > You seem to be equating them merely on the fact that they're> > both "angry" comedians. That's not much to go on. I mean, why not> > toss Don Rickles into the mix too, then?> > Alex in NYC> >> >> > -----Original Message-----> > From: Brendan Quinn> > Sent: Jan 30, 2009 10:31 AM> > To: "' A list about all things Killing Joke> > (the band!)'"> > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks> >> >> >> > Not a fair comparison?because?> >> >> > ________________________________> >> > From:gathering-bounces at misera.net> > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On> > Behalf Of Alexander Smith> > Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009> > 23:15> > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)> > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks> >> >> > Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks> > was capable of being. I love both, but it's not really a fair comparison.> >> > Alex in NYC> >> >> >> > On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote:> >> >> >> > Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots> >> > If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=?> >> > Please show working.> >> >> > ________________________________> >> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]> > On> > Behalf Of ade> > Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24> > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)> > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks> >> > LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;)> >> > From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's> > transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is Denis> > Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because there's no cure> > for> > cancer"'> > -----Original Message-----> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On> > Behalf Of Brendan> > Quinn> > Sent: 29 January 2009 04:57> > To: ' A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'> > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks> > The only other comedians I?d put in that category (and none> > as good as Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who?s a> > surprising find actually.> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8> >> > PS: I haven?t watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks,> > but from memory it?s pretty cool.> >> >> > ________________________________> >> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]> > On> > Behalf Of Bette> > Dillinger> > Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34> > To: gathering at misera.net> > Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks> >> >> > Hey everyone!> > Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch> > it. In the US David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30> > EST the routine of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in> > 1994 because it was considered too "controversial". The> > routine that sullied his relationship with the media to a degree.> >> > His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of> > the> > estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make> > this shit up.).........> > Damn, it has been 14 years! Are there any comedians that are> > flying under the radar that should be checked out? I am still> > looking for one whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour.> >> > Bette> >> > ________________________________> >> > size=2> > width="100%" align=center>> > Windows Live?: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to> > connect. 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I can't believe they didn't know each other.> >> > Funnily (with a jaundiced eye) Kevin Booth, who runs shit on the Web for> > BH, really promoted Joe Rogan for a time. I dunno, I just feel he indeed> > has a collection of little shoes somewhere.> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lXUd7VxuSA&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Efazed%2Eorg%2Fvideo%2F%3Fid%3D628> >> _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_022009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net Wed Feb 4 21:27:51 2009 From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:27:51 -0600 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? In-Reply-To: References: <024801c986e0$8abb8070$a0328150$@com><6E00D9BB64DD4A71B27510B9C8ECED64@Bell2007PC> <77F20B18CE3245A89388A61D644ADC29@edweil> <4E3B7D74-B605-49D2-A772-DC81E688B788@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <498A4EA7.6070303@sbcglobal.net> Wow, the flawless _Bad Music for Bad People_ LP and even the surprisingly good live album _Live at the Peppermint Lounge_ got me through many a sleepless night as a teenager. Much love, Lux. You were a living encyclopedia of 60s garage, rockabilly, and any music worth listening to. -Oliver Bette Dillinger wrote: > They were one and are one of my favorite bands. "New Kind of > Kick" is such a classic. I am stunned this didn't get any attention. > I saw more about the guitarist for the Stooges moving on. They broke > the mould with Lux Interior. I honestly am overwhelmed. From bettedillinger at live.com Wed Feb 4 21:36:31 2009 From: bettedillinger at live.com (Bette Dillinger) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:36:31 -0500 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? In-Reply-To: <498A4EA7.6070303@sbcglobal.net> References: <024801c986e0$8abb8070$a0328150$@com><6E00D9BB64DD4A71B27510B9C8ECED64@Bell2007PC> <77F20B18CE3245A89388A61D644ADC29@edweil> <4E3B7D74-B605-49D2-A772-DC81E688B788@earthlink.net> <498A4EA7.6070303@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Absolutely, "Bad Music" is one of my favorite albums of all time. I can't forget that brilliant first track "Garbageman"....summed up the man and his music to me...I can hear the opening of that album in my head, I have heard it so many times...can't say that for alot of albums, particularly now.> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 20:27:51 -0600> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead?> > Wow, the flawless _Bad Music for Bad People_ LP and even the > surprisingly good live album _Live at the Peppermint Lounge_ got me > through many a sleepless night as a teenager.> > Much love, Lux. You were a living encyclopedia of 60s garage, > rockabilly, and any music worth listening to.> > -Oliver> > > Bette Dillinger wrote:> > They were one and are one of my favorite bands. "New Kind of > > Kick" is such a classic. I am stunned this didn't get any attention. > > I saw more about the guitarist for the Stooges moving on. They broke > > the mould with Lux Interior. I honestly am overwhelmed. > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_explore_022009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bettedillinger at live.com Wed Feb 4 21:37:49 2009 From: bettedillinger at live.com (Bette Dillinger) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:37:49 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks In-Reply-To: <4987B8B7.6030506@sbcglobal.net> References: <2911346.1233340704779.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <60205.203.210.68.145.1233630777.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <4987B8B7.6030506@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: "We're partying with the Quaylester!" LOL. Yeah, February 26th will be the 15th anniversary of the man's death.> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 21:23:35 -0600> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks> > Hicks was/is the Lenny Bruce of the modern era. Love that guy!> > I esp. like his bits about the "war on drugs" and imagining the horror > at being at a show/rock concert and realizing you were surrounded by > Republicans...> > > -Oliver> _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_022009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net Wed Feb 4 22:24:08 2009 From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 21:24:08 -0600 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? In-Reply-To: References: <024801c986e0$8abb8070$a0328150$@com><6E00D9BB64DD4A71B27510B9C8ECED64@Bell2007PC> <77F20B18CE3245A89388A61D644ADC29@edweil> <4E3B7D74-B605-49D2-A772-DC81E688B788@earthlink.net> <498A4EA7.6070303@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <498A5BD8.9050606@sbcglobal.net> You know, another thing I realized is that they are one of the original wave of US punk bands from the 70s that just kept it up, never broke up (hence no cash-in reunions to big fanfare), and since they were not one hit wonders, and no one died early on, but they kept plugging away, they were easy to overlook. (Like KJ, even, maybe?) Ian MacKaye of Minor Threat/Fugazi said the first punk show he went to in the late 1970s was the Cramps. They don't neatly fit the punk category, but I'd also argue that The Cramps and the original Misfits ('77 - '83) pioneered the whole b-movie, creature feature aspect of punk that became psychobilly, gothabilly, horror punk, etc., etc. -Oliver Bette Dillinger wrote: > Absolutely, "Bad Music" is one of my favorite albums of all time. I > can't forget that brilliant first track "Garbageman"....summed up the > man and his music to me...I can hear the opening of that album in my > head, I have heard it so many times...can't say that for alot of > albums, particularly now. From planetary at socal.rr.com Wed Feb 4 22:50:15 2009 From: planetary at socal.rr.com (The Mighty TB) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 19:50:15 -0800 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? In-Reply-To: <498A5BD8.9050606@sbcglobal.net> References: <024801c986e0$8abb8070$a0328150$@com><6E00D9BB64DD4A71B27510B9C8ECED64@Bell2007PC> <77F20B18CE3245A89388A61D644ADC29@edweil> <4E3B7D74-B605-49D2-A772-DC81E688B788@earthlink.net> <498A4EA7.6070303@sbcglobal.net> <498A5BD8.9050606@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: "B. Oliver Sheppard" wrote: > You know, another thing I realized is that they are one of the original > wave of US punk bands from the 70s that just kept it up, never broke up > (hence no cash-in reunions to big fanfare), and since they were not one > hit wonders, and no one died early on, but they kept plugging away, they > were easy to overlook. (Like KJ, even, maybe?) Well, they did lose Brian (Bryan) Gregory who was a major part of their original rockabilly/fuzz twin guitar driven sound after their debut album and EP and went through more drummers and bass players than Spinal Tap throughout their career. Kinda like The Cult's Ian Astbury and Billy Duffy (and to a lesser extent, KJ's Jaz n' Geordie), it's the core members of Lux and his wife Poison Ivy that was really the "band." > Ian MacKaye of Minor Threat/Fugazi said the first punk show he went to in > the late 1970s was the Cramps. They don't neatly fit the punk category, > but I'd also argue that The Cramps and the original Misfits ('77 - '83) > pioneered the whole b-movie, creature feature aspect of punk that became > psychobilly, gothabilly, horror punk, etc., etc. That's pretty much correct. In fact, I think Lux stole the "psychobilly" tag from an old Johnny Cash song to describe their type of music around '78. T.B. From vassifer at earthlink.net Wed Feb 4 23:06:39 2009 From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alexander Smith) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 23:06:39 -0500 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? In-Reply-To: References: <024801c986e0$8abb8070$a0328150$@com><6E00D9BB64DD4A71B27510B9C8ECED64@Bell2007PC> <77F20B18CE3245A89388A61D644ADC29@edweil> <4E3B7D74-B605-49D2-A772-DC81E688B788@earthlink.net> <498A4EA7.6070303@sbcglobal.net> <498A5BD8.9050606@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Just a huge, sad loss. And by all accounts, just a nice, genuinely decent dude with an amazing sense of humor. Sad day. Alex in NYC On Feb 4, 2009, at 10:50 PM, The Mighty TB wrote: > "B. Oliver Sheppard" wrote: > >> You know, another thing I realized is that they are one of the >> original wave of US punk bands from the 70s that just kept it up, >> never broke up (hence no cash-in reunions to big fanfare), and >> since they were not one hit wonders, and no one died early on, but >> they kept plugging away, they were easy to overlook. (Like KJ, >> even, maybe?) > > Well, they did lose Brian (Bryan) Gregory who was a major part of > their original rockabilly/fuzz twin guitar driven sound after their > debut album and EP and went through more drummers and bass players > than Spinal Tap throughout their career. Kinda like The Cult's Ian > Astbury and Billy Duffy (and to a lesser extent, KJ's Jaz n' > Geordie), it's the core members of Lux and his wife Poison Ivy that > was really the "band." > >> Ian MacKaye of Minor Threat/Fugazi said the first punk show he went >> to in the late 1970s was the Cramps. They don't neatly fit the punk >> category, but I'd also argue that The Cramps and the original >> Misfits ('77 - '83) pioneered the whole b-movie, creature feature >> aspect of punk that became psychobilly, gothabilly, horror punk, >> etc., etc. > > That's pretty much correct. In fact, I think Lux stole the > "psychobilly" tag from an old Johnny Cash song to describe their > type of music around '78. > > T.B. > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From fluwdot at earthlink.net Wed Feb 4 23:13:17 2009 From: fluwdot at earthlink.net (fluw) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:13:17 -0600 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: A friend of mine said this in regards to lux's passing: "The most interesting thing about Anne Rice's "Interview With a Vampire" is the theme that although vampires are theoretically immortal, they all fade away anyway as they lose interest in a changing world that has lost too much of what had been meaningful to them. I'm starting to feel I've lived a bit too long myself." I really had some of that feeling myself when I heard had lux died. Lux and the cramps made me and many people feel at home/normal when before him the rest of the world didn't seem to speak our language. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 65snoopy at gmail.com Thu Feb 5 01:35:44 2009 From: 65snoopy at gmail.com (Neil Perry) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:35:44 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? In-Reply-To: References: <77F20B18CE3245A89388A61D644ADC29@edweil> <4E3B7D74-B605-49D2-A772-DC81E688B788@earthlink.net> <498A4EA7.6070303@sbcglobal.net> <498A5BD8.9050606@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Fuck it, another one gone. Glad I saw them play in 2007. N 2009/2/5 Alexander Smith > > Just a huge, sad loss. And by all accounts, just a nice, genuinely decent > dude with an amazing sense of humor. > > Sad day. > > Alex in NYC > > > > On Feb 4, 2009, at 10:50 PM, The Mighty TB wrote: > > "B. Oliver Sheppard" wrote: >> >> You know, another thing I realized is that they are one of the original >>> wave of US punk bands from the 70s that just kept it up, never broke up >>> (hence no cash-in reunions to big fanfare), and since they were not one hit >>> wonders, and no one died early on, but they kept plugging away, they were >>> easy to overlook. (Like KJ, even, maybe?) >>> >> >> Well, they did lose Brian (Bryan) Gregory who was a major part of their >> original rockabilly/fuzz twin guitar driven sound after their debut album >> and EP and went through more drummers and bass players than Spinal Tap >> throughout their career. Kinda like The Cult's Ian Astbury and Billy Duffy >> (and to a lesser extent, KJ's Jaz n' Geordie), it's the core members of Lux >> and his wife Poison Ivy that was really the "band." >> >> Ian MacKaye of Minor Threat/Fugazi said the first punk show he went to in >>> the late 1970s was the Cramps. They don't neatly fit the punk category, but >>> I'd also argue that The Cramps and the original Misfits ('77 - '83) >>> pioneered the whole b-movie, creature feature aspect of punk that became >>> psychobilly, gothabilly, horror punk, etc., etc. >>> >> >> That's pretty much correct. In fact, I think Lux stole the "psychobilly" >> tag from an old Johnny Cash song to describe their type of music around '78. >> >> T.B. >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.nme.com/news/cramps/42548 Very sad news. He was a great performer, I saw The Cramps many times. My heart goes out to Ivy. Regards to all, Nuclear Girl _________________________________________________________________ Discover Bird's Eye View now with Multimap from Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354026/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pascal at ledooz.com Thu Feb 5 03:08:30 2009 From: pascal at ledooz.com (pascal) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:08:30 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wow, what a start to 09! Sad day, Ron Asheton last month, now Lux, looks like the end of the line for all the 'greats'. The Cramps were one of the best live acts ever, saw them many times from the 80's through to the late 90's in various places, London, Sydney, NYC and Toulouse. The wife loves them (she's a redhead who loves a vinyl outfit) and the Cramps feature on regular rotation on the turntable. On a good note the Buzzcocks are playing my way next month, so I better 'catch them while I still can' _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of LONESTYLE at aol.com Sent: 05 February 2009 08:05 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? That sucks! The Cramps were cool. Still are... ~LB In a message dated 2/4/2009 3:59:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, vassifer at earthlink.net writes: Here's official word: http://www.thedailyswarm.com/headlines/cramps-lux-interior-rip/ _____ Stay up to date on the latest news - from sports scores to stocks and so much more. No virus found in this incoming message. 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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Thu Feb 5 04:07:36 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 20:07:36 +1100 Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks In-Reply-To: References: <1672909.1233345860359.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net><336397.9970.qm@web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com><2644C4F572C84C6C976A1AA34D9DE16E@Soundgardener><82523.43331.qm@web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com><44902.203.210.68.145.1233699680.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <590936.35806.qm@web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6A2FDF8829B34085967B6E84570F9898@Soundgardener> That Wiki article Pat linked to has a footnote to a Joe Rogan blog where he calls out Leary as a joke thief, and reckons the local comedy pros he asked about it at the time all said Leary's a thief: http://blog.joerogan.net/archives/92 He is a thief. If you reckon there's not enough similarity, you obviously never plagiarised your homework and just put it into your own words. Same topic, same angle, different words. How clever. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Bette Dillinger Sent: Thursday, 5 February 2009 13:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks It's the principle of the matter. Yes, it is difficult to conceive of morals, values...right...wrong... in our most enlightened, post modern media saturated times. Bottom line: A hack who appropriates the talents of a gifted dying performer, takes his routine after his death (as well as taking copious notes and making NCFC before the body was interred) and subsequently profits off it is morally and emotionally bankrupt. This is not an intellectual exercise. He needs a right good kick in the arse, and I am being kind. As you were. Bette > Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 21:53:27 -0800 > From: angrytomhanks at yahoo.com > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > Don't ever remember saying I was bored. I was simply agreeing with Alex. He hit the nail on the head by comparing the Leary vs Hicks arguement to the Nirvana vs Killing Joke thing. > > Bill Hicks is fine, sometimes really funny. Completely overrated, of course. That'll happen when you die. His best moments were when he broke from his routine and berated his audience. His meltdowns were pretty intense. Probably a couple of them floating around on youtube. > > Leary's standup is pretty lame but as a comedic actor, he is aces. Rescue Me is a testament to this as well as Suicide Kings. The similarities between the himself and Bill Hicks are slight at best. Post the youtube clip where Leary quotes him verbatim and things might get interesting. > > > > http://www.nightruiner.com > http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope > http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Brendan > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 5:21:20 PM > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > I'm not trying to be rude Leigh, my point is, I'm a big fan of Bill Hicks, > having a yarn with others on the list about him being ripped off by > Leary...so why piss on my chips? I could verbally roll my eyes about stuff > others are talking about, call it old news etc...but why bother? Do you > actually have a point, other than to share that it bores you? It bores me > even more to know that. > > > Tsk, so rude. Got any more "durrr, here is evidence that this asshole > > ripped off this other asshole" youtube vids to show? Those never suck. > > > > http://www.nightruiner.com > > http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope > > http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Brendan Quinn > > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > > > > Sent: Monday, February 2, 2009 1:12:39 PM > > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > > > > > Exactly.what? If you don't want to take > > part in a thread, there's plenty on tv on I'm sure. > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On > > Behalf Of Leigh Newton > > Sent: Tuesday, 3 February 2009 > > 04:11 > > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > > > HA! Ex.Act.Ly. > > > > http://www.nightruiner.com > > http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope > > http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From:Alex > > Smith > > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > > ; A list about all things Killing Joke > > (the band!) > > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 > > 3:04:19 PM > > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > With all > > due respect, Brendan, this is like dredging up the ol' > > "Eighties"/"Come As You Are"/"Life Goes > > On"/"Baby, Come Back" debate. > > Alex in > > NYC > > > > > > > > > > -----Original > > Message----- > > From: Brendan Quinn > > Sent: Jan 30, 2009 2:53 PM > > To: "' A list about all things Killing Joke > > (the band!)'" > > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > Well, unfair in your opinion, I beg to differ based on how I see > > it: > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Hicks#Allegations_of_plagiarism_towards_De nis_Leary > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE4sK_yYtGQ > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On > > Behalf Of Alex Smith > > Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 > > 05:38 > > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); ' A list about all > > things Killing Joke (the band!)' > > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > > > The perils and ramifications of smoking aren't really > > "niche" material. You may not like Dennis Leary -- fair enough -- but > > to accuse him of ripping off Hicks in that capacity is pretty unfair. > > Alex in NYC > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Brendan Quinn > > Sent: Jan 30, 2009 12:46 PM > > To: "' A list about all things Killing Joke > > (the band!)'" > > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > > > > > We were comparing them because they covered similar material, that > > I'm pretty sure Hicks came up with and Leary stole. Specifically the > > voicebox gag. I could be wrong, but that's the accusation. > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From:gathering-bounces at misera.net > > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On > > Behalf Of Alex Smith > > Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 > > 03:59 > > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); ' A list about all > > things Killing Joke (the band!)' > > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > > > You seem to be equating them merely on the fact that they're > > both "angry" comedians. That's not much to go on. I mean, why not > > toss Don Rickles into the mix too, then? > > Alex in NYC > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Brendan Quinn > > Sent: Jan 30, 2009 10:31 AM > > To: "' A list about all things Killing Joke > > (the band!)'" > > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > > > > > > > Not a fair comparison.because? > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From:gathering-bounces at misera.net > > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On > > Behalf Of Alexander Smith > > Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 > > 23:15 > > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > > > > > Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks > > was capable of being. I love both, but it's not really a fair comparison. > > > > Alex in NYC > > > > > > > > On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote: > > > > > > > > Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots > > > > If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=? > > > > Please show working. > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > > On > > Behalf Of ade > > Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24 > > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > > > LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;) > > > > From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's > > transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is Denis > > Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because there's no cure > > for > > cancer"' > > -----Original Message----- > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On > > Behalf Of Brendan > > Quinn > > Sent: 29 January 2009 04:57 > > To: ' A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' > > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > The only other comedians I'd put in that category (and none > > as good as Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who's a > > surprising find actually. > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8 > > > > PS: I haven't watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, > > but from memory it's pretty cool. > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > > On > > Behalf Of Bette > > Dillinger > > Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34 > > To: gathering at misera.net > > Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > > > > > Hey everyone! > > Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch > > it. In the US David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 > > EST the routine of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in > > 1994 because it was considered too "controversial". The > > routine that sullied his relationship with the media to a degree. > > > > His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of > > the > > estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make > > this shit up.)......... > > Damn, it has been 14 years! Are there any comedians that are > > flying under the radar that should be checked out? I am still > > looking for one whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour. > > > > Bette > > > > ________________________________ > > > > size=2 > > width="100%" align=center> > > Windows LiveT: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to > > connect. 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Lux and the cramps made me and many people feel at home/normal when before him the rest of the world didn?t seem to speak our language. _________________________________________________________________ Twice the fun?Share photos while you chat with Windows Live Messenger. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/uk/windows/windowslive/products/messenger.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cook_paula at hotmail.com Thu Feb 5 04:23:12 2009 From: cook_paula at hotmail.com (Paula Cook) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:23:12 +0000 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That is so true, fluw, I now recall that quote myself. I didn't really understand it at the time, but now I'm beginning to as well. And what you say about Lux and The Cramps is so true. Regards, Nuclear Girl > From: "fluw" > Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? > To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'" > > A friend of mine said this in regards to lux's passing: > > "The most interesting thing about Anne Rice's "Interview With a Vampire" is > the theme that although vampires are theoretically immortal, they all fade > away anyway as they lose interest in a changing world that has lost too much > of what had been meaningful to them. > > I'm starting to feel I've lived a bit too long myself." > > I really had some of that feeling myself when I heard had lux died. Lux and > the cramps made me and many people feel at home/normal when before him the > rest of the world didn't seem to speak our language. > _________________________________________________________________ Make a mini you and download it into Windows Live Messenger http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354029/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jane.shadforth at shell.com Thu Feb 5 06:21:31 2009 From: jane.shadforth at shell.com (jane.shadforth at shell.com) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:21:31 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? In-Reply-To: <4E3B7D74-B605-49D2-A772-DC81E688B788@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <31F32A0DB10C7E4FBE415287069AD465511264@amsdc1-s-03341.europe.shell.com> One of the first bands I ever saw, and still one my all time favourites - this is a very sad day!! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Alexander Smith Sent: 05 February 2009 01:42 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? First heard them in `85 (via GRAVEST HITS and A DATE WITH ELIVS). Saw them in `90. AMAZING performer. We will not see his like again. 2009 kinda fuckin' sucks so far. Alex in NYC On Feb 4, 2009, at 8:30 PM, Karen Weil wrote: > Yes, unfortunatley it is. He was truly a great, outrageous frontman. > I got to see the Cramps in '95; one hell of a show. > > > k.w. > California > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexander Smith" > > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" > > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 3:17 PM > Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? > > >> Whoa! Horrible if true. >> >> Alex in NYC >> >> On Feb 4, 2009, at 6:00 PM, The Mighty TB wrote: >> >>> This is a rumor but it seems to have some legs to it. Anyone >>> know one way or the other? >>> >>> T.B. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gathering mailing list >>> Gathering at misera.net >>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From vassifer at earthlink.net Thu Feb 5 07:22:38 2009 From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alexander Smith) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:22:38 -0500 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Never seen a frontman be so rough on so many microphones. Alex in NYC.... still shocked On Feb 5, 2009, at 3:01 AM, Paula Cook wrote: > http://www.nme.com/news/cramps/42548 > > Very sad news. He was a great performer, I saw The Cramps many > times. My heart goes out to Ivy. > > Regards to all, > Nuclear Girl > > > > Get Hotmail on your mobile from Vodafone Try it Now > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From laughingchris at hotmail.com Thu Feb 5 08:46:09 2009 From: laughingchris at hotmail.com (Chris Williamson) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:46:09 +0000 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Seems like all the old rockers are dropping like human flies. RIP Lux. One of the best in the business.Chris From: thepunisher at blueyonder.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:15:04 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? So Lux & Asheton gone in a matter of days.. RIP Lux ----- Original Message ----- From: Paula Cook To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? http://www.nme.com/news/cramps/42548 Very sad news. He was a great performer, I saw The Cramps many times. My heart goes out to Ivy. Regards to all,Nuclear Girl Get Hotmail on your mobile from Vodafone Try it Now _______________________________________________Gathering mailing listGathering at misera.nethttp://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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He was a great performer, I saw The Cramps many times. My heart goes out to Ivy. ? Regards to all, Nuclear Girl ? ? Get Hotmail on your mobile from Vodafone?Try it Now?_______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering = _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From fatpotanga at gmail.com Thu Feb 5 09:20:46 2009 From: fatpotanga at gmail.com (fatpotanga) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:20:46 +0000 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0D672FB7-F4F1-431A-B117-4F866D1686CD@gmail.com> On 5 Feb 2009, at 13:46, Chris Williamson wrote: > Seems like all the old rockers are dropping like human flies. 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URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Thu Feb 5 13:27:43 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:27:43 -0800 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? References: <0D672FB7-F4F1-431A-B117-4F866D1686CD@gmail.com> <015801c9879d$b27d2150$1201010a@jokers> Message-ID: The next 10 years? Ugh. Hope you're not right. k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Circus Bar To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 6:26 AM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? We tried several times bring the Cramps to play in Brazil and never succeded, now it?s simply impossible!!! RIP Lux Interior I?ve had a conversation with some friends last week, and we were came to notice that in the next 10 years all our idols are going to die!!! d i a z ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net Thu Feb 5 16:17:56 2009 From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 15:17:56 -0600 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? In-Reply-To: References: <0D672FB7-F4F1-431A-B117-4F866D1686CD@gmail.com> <015801c9879d$b27d2150$1201010a@jokers> Message-ID: <498B5784.20009@sbcglobal.net> Anyone have the clip to "Thurston's Alley," a segment on a show on MTV in the early 90s (I think Sofia Coppola made it)? It was Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth interviewing various people. IIRC, he interviewed Lux Interior and Poison Ivy and Lux showed him their apartment, chock full of horror memorabilia, obviously - but also a ton 'o Bettie Page stuff. This was 1992, I think. Anyone know what I am talking about? No luck on YouTube. -Oliver Karen Weil wrote: > The next 10 years? Ugh. Hope you're not right. > > k.w. > From paulwady at hotmail.com Thu Feb 5 17:08:44 2009 From: paulwady at hotmail.com (Paul Wady) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 22:08:44 +0000 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Saw them in the Astoria two years ago, and he was how old???Damn. x Keep Smiling... http://www.myspace.com/themodelaircraftmuseum http://www.myspace.com/paulwadyexperience Autism also affects adults. Most are isolated and ignored Think. Act. Transform Lives. www.think-differently.org.ukFrom: thepunisher at blueyonder.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:15:04 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? So Lux & Asheton gone in a matter of days.. RIP Lux ----- Original Message ----- From: Paula Cook To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? http://www.nme.com/news/cramps/42548 Very sad news. He was a great performer, I saw The Cramps many times. My heart goes out to Ivy. Regards to all,Nuclear Girl Get Hotmail on your mobile from Vodafone Try it Now _______________________________________________Gathering mailing listGathering at misera.nethttp://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Thu Feb 5 21:55:13 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 15:55:13 +1300 (NZDT) Subject: [kj] OT: Implant Message-ID: <46033.203.210.68.145.1233888913.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> 4.7B quid is a lot of money to spend on a - currently - useless program (time to move to the Euro anyway isn't it?) http://www.dailytech.com/66B+British+ID+Program+Has+No+Card+Readers/article14175.htm From folk.devil at hotmail.com Thu Feb 5 22:41:19 2009 From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 19:41:19 -0800 Subject: [kj] OT: Implant In-Reply-To: <46033.203.210.68.145.1233888913.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> References: <46033.203.210.68.145.1233888913.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: scanners that smell your DNA might be cheaper? ;) (I'd imagine most of us have had our blood drawn in the past couple of years?) > Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 15:55:13 +1300 > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: [kj] OT: Implant > > 4.7B quid is a lot of money to spend on a - currently - useless program > (time to move to the Euro anyway isn't it?) > > http://www.dailytech.com/66B+British+ID+Program+Has+No+Card+Readers/article14175.htm > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_022009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Thu Feb 5 23:44:19 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 17:44:19 +1300 (NZDT) Subject: [kj] OT: Implant In-Reply-To: References: <46033.203.210.68.145.1233888913.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <34164.203.210.68.145.1233895459.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> >From what I gather there's massive security holes in the system over there anyway, mainly stemming from the fact that the borders to the rest of Europe are porous and that's where the vast majority of inbound travellers arrive from (I heard 98%) > > scanners that smell your DNA might be cheaper? ;) > > (I'd imagine most of us have had our blood drawn in the past couple of > years?) > >> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 15:55:13 +1300 >> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz >> To: gathering at misera.net >> Subject: [kj] OT: Implant >> >> 4.7B quid is a lot of money to spend on a - currently - useless program >> (time to move to the Euro anyway isn't it?) >> >> http://www.dailytech.com/66B+British+ID+Program+Has+No+Card+Readers/article14175.htm >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. > http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_022009_______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From folk.devil at hotmail.com Fri Feb 6 11:34:19 2009 From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 08:34:19 -0800 Subject: [kj] OT: Implant In-Reply-To: <34164.203.210.68.145.1233895459.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> References: <46033.203.210.68.145.1233888913.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <34164.203.210.68.145.1233895459.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: 98% arrive through 'Porous', 'security holes'. If they can spot us in our living rooms from space, I am sure they will have no problem seeing these '1000s' of transients roaming Europe. Lovely semantics. They sound more like termites. National boundaries are a relatively modern concept. If 'primitive' man found himself in a barren land, he'd be looking for milk and honey, instead. > Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 17:44:19 +1300> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Implant> > >From what I gather there's massive security holes in the system over there> anyway, mainly stemming from the fact that the borders to the rest of> Europe are porous and that's where the vast majority of inbound travellers> arrive from (I heard 98%)> > >> > scanners that smell your DNA might be cheaper? ;)> >> > (I'd imagine most of us have had our blood drawn in the past couple of> > years?)> >> >> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 15:55:13 +1300> >> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz> >> To: gathering at misera.net> >> Subject: [kj] OT: Implant> >>> >> 4.7B quid is a lot of money to spend on a - currently - useless program> >> (time to move to the Euro anyway isn't it?)> >>> >> http://www.dailytech.com/66B+British+ID+Program+Has+No+Card+Readers/article14175.htm> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________> >> Gathering mailing list> >> Gathering at misera.net> >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> >> > _________________________________________________________________> > Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync.> > http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_022009_______________________________________________> > Gathering mailing list> > Gathering at misera.net> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> >> > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: E-mail. 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From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Fri Feb 6 16:38:16 2009 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 21:38:16 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT: Implant Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097125@mr-pants.the-lab.local> The ID card is doomed before its' rolled-out :) 1984, what a bore. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Sent: 06 February 2009 04:44 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Implant >From what I gather there's massive security holes in the system over there anyway, mainly stemming from the fact that the borders to the rest of Europe are porous and that's where the vast majority of inbound travellers arrive from (I heard 98%) > > scanners that smell your DNA might be cheaper? ;) > > (I'd imagine most of us have had our blood drawn in the past couple of > years?) > >> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 15:55:13 +1300 >> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz >> To: gathering at misera.net >> Subject: [kj] OT: Implant >> >> 4.7B quid is a lot of money to spend on a - currently - useless program >> (time to move to the Euro anyway isn't it?) >> >> http://www.dailytech.com/66B+British+ID+Program+Has+No+Card+Readers/article14175.htm >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live(tm): Keep your life in sync. > http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_022009_______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Fri Feb 6 19:02:16 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:02:16 +1100 Subject: [kj] OT: Implant In-Reply-To: References: <46033.203.210.68.145.1233888913.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <34164.203.210.68.145.1233895459.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <160F8D341BDD42A5BCF6B93157D577D4@Soundgardener> If they can spot us in our living rooms from space, I am sure they will have no problem seeing these '1000s' of transients roaming Europe Nice theory, you can project manage the operation of monitoring every human being on the planet via satellite. I'm sure we have enough satellites, computer processing power and storage, and international political will and co-operation to do it. Lovely semantics. They sound more like termites. Different concepts have their own vernacular, don't blame me, I missed the meeting where they came up with that one and they went ahead without me. And last time I checked I wasn't involved in the third reich, so rest easy, I'm not promoting genocide, and if I was I think I'd launch it from a grander stage than a Killing Joke email list. National boundaries are a relatively modern concept. Territoriality and competition go back beyond the advent of our species. Nationality might be relatively new (debatable) but it's just a question of scale due to the increasing complexity and organisation of society. The oldest cities in the world are roughly 10 000 years old from memory. Walled. If 'primitive' man found himself in a barren land, he'd be looking for milk and honey, instead. We're talking about modern man not primitive man. Europe was occupied for the first time.once. It's been occupied for a pretty long time now. And when different tribes in the history of Europe have come into areas that are already populated.you're read some history right? Rome and the Vikings and all that.? And Europe's not barren, not last time I was there at least. Barren means largely infertile, so if you're going off in search of milk and honey.good luck in those barren areas. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 7 February 2009 03:34 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Implant 98% arrive through 'Porous', 'security holes'. If they can spot us in our living rooms from space, I am sure they will have no problem seeing these '1000s' of transients roaming Europe. Lovely semantics. They sound more like termites. National boundaries are a relatively modern concept. If 'primitive' man found himself in a barren land, he'd be looking for milk and honey, instead. > Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 17:44:19 +1300 > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Implant > > >From what I gather there's massive security holes in the system over there > anyway, mainly stemming from the fact that the borders to the rest of > Europe are porous and that's where the vast majority of inbound travellers > arrive from (I heard 98%) > > > > > scanners that smell your DNA might be cheaper? ;) > > > > (I'd imagine most of us have had our blood drawn in the past couple of > > years?) > > > >> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 15:55:13 +1300 > >> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz > >> To: gathering at misera.net > >> Subject: [kj] OT: Implant > >> > >> 4.7B quid is a lot of money to spend on a - currently - useless program > >> (time to move to the Euro anyway isn't it?) > >> > >> http://www.dailytech.com/66B+British+ID+Program+Has+No+Card+Readers/article1 4175.htm > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Gathering mailing list > >> Gathering at misera.net > >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Windows LiveT: Keep your life in sync. > > http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_0220 09_______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering at misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____ Windows LiveT: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. Check it out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From folk.devil at hotmail.com Fri Feb 6 19:26:19 2009 From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 16:26:19 -0800 Subject: [kj] OT: Implant In-Reply-To: <160F8D341BDD42A5BCF6B93157D577D4@Soundgardener> References: <46033.203.210.68.145.1233888913.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <34164.203.210.68.145.1233895459.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <160F8D341BDD42A5BCF6B93157D577D4@Soundgardener> Message-ID: i was referring to those entering europe, coming from a 'barren' area. National boundaries as in Nationalism , yes. yep, read plenty of history, not quite sure where your 'antagonistic' approach is coming from. sure, man has tried to control his fellow men for 1000s of years, now we have plastic cards with magnetic strips to do it..and i'm sure there's a 1000 other ways, in a 1000 other comic books.. From: bq at soundgardener.co.nzTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:02:16 +1100Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Implant If they can spot us in our living rooms from space, I am sure they will have no problem seeing these '1000s' of transients roaming Europe Nice theory, you can project manage the operation of monitoring every human being on the planet via satellite. I?m sure we have enough satellites, computer processing power and storage, and international political will and co-operation to do it. Lovely semantics. They sound more like termites. Different concepts have their own vernacular, don?t blame me, I missed the meeting where they came up with that one and they went ahead without me. And last time I checked I wasn?t involved in the third reich, so rest easy, I?m not promoting genocide, and if I was I think I?d launch it from a grander stage than a Killing Joke email list. National boundaries are a relatively modern concept. Territoriality and competition go back beyond the advent of our species. Nationality might be relatively new (debatable) but it?s just a question of scale due to the increasing complexity and organisation of society. The oldest cities in the world are roughly 10 000 years old from memory. Walled. If 'primitive' man found himself in a barren land, he'd be looking for milk and honey, instead. We?re talking about modern man not primitive man. Europe was occupied for the first time?once. It?s been occupied for a pretty long time now. And when different tribes in the history of Europe have come into areas that are already populated?you?re read some history right? Rome and the Vikings and all that?? And Europe?s not barren, not last time I was there at least. Barren means largely infertile, so if you?re going off in search of milk and honey?good luck in those barren areas. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: E-mail. Chat. Share. 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Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Implant >From what I gather there's massive security holes in the system over there anyway, mainly stemming from the fact that the borders to the rest of Europe are porous and that's where the vast majority of inbound travellers arrive from (I heard 98%) > > scanners that smell your DNA might be cheaper? ;) > > (I'd imagine most of us have had our blood drawn in the past couple of > years?) > >> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 15:55:13 +1300 >> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz >> To: gathering at misera.net >> Subject: [kj] OT: Implant >> >> 4.7B quid is a lot of money to spend on a - currently - useless program >> (time to move to the Euro anyway isn't it?) >> >> http://www.dailytech.com/66B+British+ID+Program+Has+No+Card+Readers/article14175.htm >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows LiveT: Keep your life in sync. > http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_022009_______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From folk.devil at hotmail.com Fri Feb 6 20:53:43 2009 From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 17:53:43 -0800 Subject: [kj] OT: Implant In-Reply-To: References: <46033.203.210.68.145.1233888913.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <34164.203.210.68.145.1233895459.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: Or ways to make us believe we are being spied upon. ;) > From: karen.weil at sddt.com > To: gathering at misera.net > Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 17:37:32 -0800 > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Implant > > Don't worry -- there will always be better and newer ways to spy on us! ; ) > > k.w. > ----- Original Message ----- _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: E-mail. 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URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Fri Feb 6 21:04:27 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 18:04:27 -0800 Subject: [kj] OT: Implant References: <46033.203.210.68.145.1233888913.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><34164.203.210.68.145.1233895459.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <4ABB7216F5994261A9BE898A53842108@edweil> Can't argue with you about that! ; ) k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: folk devil To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Implant Or ways to make us believe we are being spied upon. ;) > From: karen.weil at sddt.com > To: gathering at misera.net > Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 17:37:32 -0800 > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Implant > > Don't worry -- there will always be better and newer ways to spy on us! ; ) > > k.w. > ----- Original Message ----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Windows Live?: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. 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URL: From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Fri Feb 6 21:48:17 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:48:17 +1100 Subject: [kj] OT: Implant In-Reply-To: References: <46033.203.210.68.145.1233888913.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><34164.203.210.68.145.1233895459.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <160F8D341BDD42A5BCF6B93157D577D4@Soundgardener> Message-ID: <4A2B08E8F1054ACFAC84122D87D69EBA@Soundgardener> You were implying that I was talking about people - specifically people of different ethniticy - as termites, and that comes with all sorts of baggage, so let's be pretty clear that's not what I was on about. In terms of my language, well whatever takes your fancy, the borders are porous, it's just how it is. By pointing it out I'm not bemoaning the fact that other races of people are crossing those borders. There are issues of security, politics, economics, and belief however that can't be ignored. I'm not nationalistic and I'm not against people because of their ethnicity. I am opposed to certain groups of people based on their belief system, which happens to be correlated to some extent with ethnicity (muslim / arab for example), but that's not why I oppose their entry into certain countries. I am opposed to growing cliques of muslims in the UK. But I don't regard them as termites or worthless people, it's the fact that according to them, eventually me and everyone else like me has to be converted or killed, and if I was a woman they'd have other shitty ideas about me that I'm totally against. In terms of controlling their entry into particular countries and their political power within those countries, I have a vested interest in that, because I don't want to live in a country that treats me like that if I don't share their faith. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 7 February 2009 11:26 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Implant i was referring to those entering europe, coming from a 'barren' area. National boundaries as in Nationalism , yes. yep, read plenty of history, not quite sure where your 'antagonistic' approach is coming from. sure, man has tried to control his fellow men for 1000s of years, now we have plastic cards with magnetic strips to do it..and i'm sure there's a 1000 other ways, in a 1000 other comic books.. _____ From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz To: gathering at misera.net Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:02:16 +1100 Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Implant If they can spot us in our living rooms from space, I am sure they will have no problem seeing these '1000s' of transients roaming Europe Nice theory, you can project manage the operation of monitoring every human being on the planet via satellite. I'm sure we have enough satellites, computer processing power and storage, and international political will and co-operation to do it. Lovely semantics. They sound more like termites. Different concepts have their own vernacular, don't blame me, I missed the meeting where they came up with that one and they went ahead without me. And last time I checked I wasn't involved in the third reich, so rest easy, I'm not promoting genocide, and if I was I think I'd launch it from a grander stage than a Killing Joke email list. National boundaries are a relatively modern concept. Territoriality and competition go back beyond the advent of our species. Nationality might be relatively new (debatable) but it's just a question of scale due to the increasing complexity and organisation of society. The oldest cities in the world are roughly 10 000 years old from memory. Walled. If 'primitive' man found himself in a barren land, he'd be looking for milk and honey, instead. We're talking about modern man not primitive man. Europe was occupied for the first time.once. It's been occupied for a pretty long time now. And when different tribes in the history of Europe have come into areas that are already populated.you're read some history right? Rome and the Vikings and all that.? And Europe's not barren, not last time I was there at least. Barren means largely infertile, so if you're going off in search of milk and honey.good luck in those barren areas. _____ _____ Windows LiveT: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. Check it out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In terms of my language, well whatever takes your fancy, the borders are porous, it?s just how it is. By pointing it out I?m not bemoaning the fact that other races of people are crossing those borders. There are issues of security, politics, economics, and belief however that can?t be ignored. I?m not nationalistic and I?m not against people because of their ethnicity. I am opposed to certain groups of people based on their belief system, which happens to be correlated to some extent with ethnicity (muslim / arab for example), but that?s not why I oppose their entry into certain countries. I am opposed to growing cliques of muslims in the UK. But I don?t regard them as termites or worthless people, it?s the fact that according to them, eventually me and everyone else like me has to be converted or killed, and if I was a woman they?d have other shitty ideas about me that I?m totally against. In terms of controlling their entry into particular countries and their political power within those countries, I have a vested interest in that, because I don?t want to live in a country that treats me like that if I don?t share their faith. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_explore_022009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From josborn5 at kent.edu Fri Feb 6 22:49:11 2009 From: josborn5 at kent.edu (James Osborne) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 22:49:11 -0500 Subject: [kj] Zeitgeist In-Reply-To: <572DBAB3BD3D4324A9B83B794B287E32@Soundgardener> References: <572DBAB3BD3D4324A9B83B794B287E32@Soundgardener> Message-ID: <8baec86a0902061949x2f8724a4n950c140e6546bddb@mail.gmail.com> I saw it quite a long time ago. I think the segment on banking was interesting, as well as the religious one. The one on religion, however, was a bit flawed and the filmmakers citations came from discredited sources. Thought provoking, nonetheless. I still have a problem with the 9/11 Truth/Conspiracy deal. I think the 9/11 truth movement serves a nationalistic purpose to detour people away from protesting or putting activist work on issues and against institutions that really matter. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cliffmonk at gmail.com Sat Feb 7 01:03:08 2009 From: cliffmonk at gmail.com (Cliff Livingston) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 21:03:08 -0900 Subject: [kj] New Chatroom,come and register Message-ID: <13071bf00902062203o406170ceue02ed1d5bb611605@mail.gmail.com> http://www.beeblack.net/plus Hey our friend Deborah aka DMX from the old Jester KJ chat has started up her own site,Italian chat room,Elana and Cliff's room,come by and chat it up.See ya there,CliffMonk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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So Lux & Asheton gone in a matter of days.. RIP Lux ----- Original Message ----- From: Paula Cook To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? http://www.nme.com/news/cramps/42548 Very sad news. He was a great performer, I saw The Cramps many times. My heart goes out to Ivy. Regards to all,Nuclear Girl Get Hotmail on your mobile from Vodafone Try it Now _______________________________________________Gathering mailing listGathering at misera.nethttp://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail, Messenger, Photos and more - all with the new Windows Live. Get started! http://www.download.live.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <498DE1A1.3040603@sbcglobal.net> People say Tina Turner can dance in heels. but dear god did you see Lux Interior dancing in high heels?? He's shaking his money maker in fetish high heels in several vids (on YouTube) like no one's business. And Poison Ivy is what, in her 50s? Fierce. Back-seamed fishnet stockings and skin tight lingerie on stage - just amazing that she looks as great as she does. And did Lux lose his teeth or something, near the end? His teeth looked metal when I saw them in 2004. -Oliver melinda grant wrote: > i was at that gig paul first-last time i ever saw them,hay he was > proberly over the hill,just like me some mornings,its good when you > can laugh at your self ;D)))) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com Sat Feb 7 14:43:27 2009 From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 19:43:27 +0000 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? In-Reply-To: <498DE1A1.3040603@sbcglobal.net> References: <498DE1A1.3040603@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: ey both worked hard to achieve that style for the fans-all good stuff ;D> Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:31:45 -0600> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead?> > People say Tina Turner can dance in heels. but dear god did you see Lux > Interior dancing in high heels?? He's shaking his money maker in fetish > high heels in several vids (on YouTube) like no one's business.> > And Poison Ivy is what, in her 50s? Fierce. Back-seamed fishnet > stockings and skin tight lingerie on stage - just amazing that she looks > as great as she does. And did Lux lose his teeth or something, near the > end? His teeth looked metal when I saw them in 2004.> > -Oliver> > > melinda grant wrote:> > i was at that gig paul first-last time i ever saw them,hay he was > > proberly over the hill,just like me some mornings,its good when you > > can laugh at your self ;D))))> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Twice the fun?Share photos while you chat with Windows Live Messenger. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/uk/windows/windowslive/products/messenger.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk Sat Feb 7 19:51:45 2009 From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk (jo) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 00:51:45 -0000 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? References: <498DE1A1.3040603@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <012701c98987$6a4755e0$0100000a@jo> ----- Original Message ----- From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 7:31 PM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? > People say Tina Turner can dance in heels. but dear god did you see Lux > Interior dancing in high heels?? He's shaking his money maker in fetish > high heels in several vids (on YouTube) like no one's business. > > And Poison Ivy is what, in her 50s? Fierce. Back-seamed fishnet stockings > and skin tight lingerie on stage - just amazing that she looks as great as > she does. And did Lux lose his teeth or something, near the end? His teeth > looked metal when I saw them in 2004. > > -Oliver > > > melinda grant wrote: >> i was at that gig paul first-last time i ever saw them,hay he was >> proberly over the hill,just like me some mornings,its good when you can >> laugh at your self ;D)))) >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk Sat Feb 7 19:54:08 2009 From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk (jo) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 00:54:08 -0000 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? References: <498DE1A1.3040603@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <012d01c98987$bfcad0a0$0100000a@jo> A smashing film waiting to be made..red haired girl hitches a lift.... > People say Tina Turner can dance in heels. but dear god did you see Lux > Interior dancing in high heels?? He's shaking his money maker in fetish > high heels in several vids (on YouTube) like no one's business. > > And Poison Ivy is what, in her 50s? Fierce. Back-seamed fishnet > stockings and skin tight lingerie on stage - just amazing that she looks > as great as she does. And did Lux lose his teeth or something, near the > end? His teeth looked metal when I saw them in 2004. > > -Oliver > > > melinda grant wrote: >> i was at that gig paul first-last time i ever saw them,hay he was >> proberly over the hill,just like me some mornings,its good when you >> can laugh at your self ;D)))) >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From dpeace at bigfoot.com Sat Feb 7 20:52:42 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 01:52:42 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT - Comsat Angels reform In-Reply-To: <02aa01c98729$3c763b00$b562b100$@com> References: <024801c986e0$8abb8070$a0328150$@com> <6E00D9BB64DD4A71B27510B9C8ECED64@Bell2007PC> <74755904-7C2C-45C7-A72A-20F38073D6F8@earthlink.net> <77F22393-4441-4D1C-A3C6-6E16E1E3E752@earthlink.net> <02aa01c98729$3c763b00$b562b100$@com> Message-ID: <000001c9898f$eecc12d0$cc643870$@com> I expect I'm the only person excited by this news, but I'll mention it in case I'm wrong: The Comsat Angels have reformed with their original line-up, and will be playing a set taken from their first three albums (Waiting For A Miracle, Sleep No More & Fiction - their masterwork, in my view, although their nineties stuff is worth investigation; I can't abide their late eighties syndrum John Hughes nonsense) on April 26th at the O2 Academy in Sheffield. Unless they announce other dates closer to home, I'll have to go. http://www.ticketweb.co.uk/user/?region=gb_northeast &query=detail&referral_id=sheflist&interface=shefacad&event=309783 Darren Hungerford, UK -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net Sun Feb 8 00:52:21 2009 From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard) Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 23:52:21 -0600 Subject: [kj] Top 10 guitarists - amend to include Poison Ivy? Message-ID: <498E7315.1050406@sbcglobal.net> We all love Geordie. Awhile back we all traded Top 10 guitarists lists. I know Poison Ivy of The Cramps wasn't on mine, foolishly. Now that I think about it - why the hell not? Think about the stuff she's been playing since the mid 1970s. -Oliver From Per.G.Olsson at Miljonmysteriet.com Sun Feb 8 04:55:44 2009 From: Per.G.Olsson at Miljonmysteriet.com (Per G Olsson) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 10:55:44 +0100 Subject: [kj] OT - Comsat Angels reform In-Reply-To: <000001c9898f$eecc12d0$cc643870$@com> References: <024801c986e0$8abb8070$a0328150$@com> <6E00D9BB64DD4A71B27510B9C8ECED64@Bell2007PC> <74755904-7C2C-45C7-A72A-20F38073D6F8@earthlink.net> <77F22393-4441-4D1C-A3C6-6E16E1E3E752@earthlink.net> <02aa01c98729$3c763b00$b562b100$@com> <000001c9898f$eecc12d0$cc643870$@com> Message-ID: No, you're not alone! :D /Per 8 feb 2009 kl. 02.52 skrev Darren A. Peace: > I expect I?m the only person excited by this news, but I?ll mention > it in case I?m wrong: > > > > The Comsat Angels have reformed with their original line-up, and > will be playing a set taken from their first three albums (Waiting > For A Miracle, Sleep No More & Fiction - their masterwork, in my > view, although their nineties stuff is worth investigation; I can?t > abide their late eighties syndrum John Hughes nonsense) on April > 26th at the O2 Academy in Sheffield. Unless they announce other > dates closer to home, I?ll have to go. > > > > http://www.ticketweb.co.uk/user/? > region=gb_northeast&query=detail&referral_id=sheflist&interface=shefac > ad&event=309783 > > > > Darren > > Hungerford, UK > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I know Poison Ivy of > The Cramps wasn't on mine, foolishly.> > Now that I think about it - why the hell not? Think about the stuff > she's been playing since the mid 1970s.> > -Oliver> _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fluwdot at earthlink.net Sun Feb 8 22:59:25 2009 From: fluwdot at earthlink.net (fluw) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 21:59:25 -0600 Subject: [kj] ot - ben vaughn on LUX Message-ID: I don?t think I could have ever imagined him dying. he didn?t seem human, it was like he was a super hero from some happy slime pit of primordial joy. tw http://wxpn.blogspot.com/2009/02/ben-vaughn-remembers-lux-interior.html BEN VAUGHN on LUX INTERIOR I met Lux in 1981. I played drums in a Philadelphia punk band called the Sic Kidz and we opened a bunch of shows for The Cramps. Our singer was good friends with Lux and Ivy from the Max?s and CBGB?s days so I was welcomed into the Cramps inner sanctum right away. I say inner sanctum because they had to be careful who they befriended. Their music struck a nerve with some of the weirdest people I?ve ever seen. It also touched a lot of well balanced rock fans but they had to be cautious about opening themselves up to just anyone. Watching Lux on stage was like watching the entire history of primitive rock and roll before your very eyes. The stage became an insane playground where literally anything could happen. And it usually did. He was totally committed to turning each venue into a temple of wild abandon and freedom. Mike stands were broken, blood was spilled, wine bottles flung, and female audience members molested. All within the first song! It was nuts. His sense of purpose was astounding. Truly incredible to witness. More than once, I was intimdated by his performance and found myself hesitant to go back and say hi. But after each show, Lux would sit quietly in the corner of the dressing room talking about music and films with a big goofy smile on his face. He was very child-like, open and curious. And funny as hell. He and Ivy were the most voracious pop culture hounds I?ve ever met. Records, movies, books, comics, you name it. And it wasn?t just about the past either. In the mid-nineties I was hired as a sitcom composer for 3rd Rock From The Sun and the show became a hit. I figured then and there that my punk cred was shot. But one of the first people to congratulate me was Lux. He watched the show every week and loved it. At one point in the early eighties, their drummer Nick got real sick. They had a summer tour booked and I was one of the people asked to consider filling in. I said yes of course but luckily the tour never materialized. I say luckily because I wasn?t as strong-willed and disciplined as Lux and Ivy back then. Every night their fans would line up at the dressing room door to offer them a veritable world of sinful opportunities. Drugs, sex and who knows what. Not that they were saints but wow, they could have easily gone the way of Charlie Parker or Johnny Thunders. The opportunities were there. But Lux believed in The Cramps way too much to let that happen. And he absolutely lived to be on stage. The last time I saw Lux was in Spain. We were both on a bill at an outdoor festival being held in the middle of a field in Basque country. I did my set, chatted with him and then positioned myself in the photographer?s pit to watch them destroy the Spanish fans. And destroy they did. It was a cold night and steam was emanating from Lux?s body throughout the show. It was other worldly at times. When it came time to turn ?Surfin? Bird? into the unfinished symphony that only Lux heard in his head, I looked around and saw 30,000 delirious people going nuts. I knew right then that I was witnessing what they call a great ?rock moment.? Which is what I felt every time I saw the Cramps. Today they would say that Lux ?brought it.? Personally, I prefer to paraphrase James Ellroy and say this: ?He didn?t just deliver a song, he came to your house and installed it!". Thank you, Lux. Tell Elvis I said hey. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Peace: > > I expect I'm the only person excited by this news, but I'll mention it in > case I'm wrong: > > > > The Comsat Angels have reformed with their original line-up, and will be > playing a set taken from their first three albums (Waiting For A Miracle, > Sleep No More & Fiction - their masterwork, in my view, although their > nineties stuff is worth investigation; I can't abide their late eighties > syndrum John Hughes nonsense) on April 26th at the O2 Academy in > Sheffield. 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URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Mon Feb 9 13:14:36 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:14:36 -0800 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? References: <498DE1A1.3040603@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Hi. Man, you said it. Those guys were incredible. As for Lux's teeth, I don't know. But I sure remember his strip tease! ; ) And Ivy -- ooh, la la! k.w. Cali ----- Original Message ----- From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? > People say Tina Turner can dance in heels. but dear god did you see Lux > Interior dancing in high heels?? He's shaking his money maker in fetish > high heels in several vids (on YouTube) like no one's business. > > And Poison Ivy is what, in her 50s? Fierce. Back-seamed fishnet stockings > and skin tight lingerie on stage - just amazing that she looks as great as > she does. And did Lux lose his teeth or something, near the end? His teeth > looked metal when I saw them in 2004. > > -Oliver > > > melinda grant wrote: >> i was at that gig paul first-last time i ever saw them,hay he was >> proberly over the hill,just like me some mornings,its good when you can >> laugh at your self ;D)))) >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From pmdavies at gmail.com Mon Feb 9 14:00:20 2009 From: pmdavies at gmail.com (iPat) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 19:00:20 +0000 Subject: [kj] ot Be Like Me Message-ID: <1646350c0902091100nae1857ct1fb2fc830a85de23@mail.gmail.com> There was a release, i think on Temple records in the mid to late 80's called Be Like Me with a picture of George best on the cover I cant get upto the attic as im still healing from surgery anyone? -- Pat Davies From jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk Mon Feb 9 14:12:08 2009 From: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk (Jim Harper) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 19:12:08 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] ot Be Like Me In-Reply-To: <1646350c0902091100nae1857ct1fb2fc830a85de23@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <79848.31228.qm@web25907.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Wedding Present? --- On Mon, 9/2/09, iPat wrote: From: iPat Subject: [kj] ot Be Like Me To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Date: Monday, 9 February, 2009, 7:00 PM There was a release, i think on Temple records in the mid to late 80's called Be Like Me with a picture of George best on the cover I cant get upto the attic as im still healing from surgery anyone? -- Pat Davies _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pmdavies at gmail.com Mon Feb 9 14:20:26 2009 From: pmdavies at gmail.com (iPat) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 19:20:26 +0000 Subject: [kj] ot Be Like Me In-Reply-To: <79848.31228.qm@web25907.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <1646350c0902091100nae1857ct1fb2fc830a85de23@mail.gmail.com> <79848.31228.qm@web25907.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1646350c0902091120i1acb0159ycd70070be1a8a84d@mail.gmail.com> found out ZosKia 'Be Like Me' 12-inch on Temple Records On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Jim Harper wrote: > Wedding Present? > > --- On Mon, 9/2/09, iPat wrote: > > From: iPat > Subject: [kj] ot Be Like Me > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" > > Date: Monday, 9 February, 2009, 7:00 PM > > There was a release, i think on Temple records in the mid to late 80's > called Be Like Me with a picture of George best on the cover > I cant get upto the attic as im still healing from surgery > > anyone? > > -- From fluke1 at live.co.uk Mon Feb 9 14:36:10 2009 From: fluke1 at live.co.uk (fluke fluke) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 19:36:10 +0000 Subject: [kj] ot Be Like Me In-Reply-To: <79848.31228.qm@web25907.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <1646350c0902091100nae1857ct1fb2fc830a85de23@mail.gmail.com> <79848.31228.qm@web25907.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Surgery as a Wedding present? That's quite sweet.....I wonder what bit was operated on ? Did ipat go one better than Steve Austin ? Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 19:12:08 +0000 From: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] ot Be Like Me Wedding Present? --- On Mon, 9/2/09, iPat wrote: From: iPat Subject: [kj] ot Be Like Me To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Date: Monday, 9 February, 2009, 7:00 PM There was a release, i think on Temple records in the mid to late 80's called Be Like Me with a picture of George best on the cover I cant get upto the attic as im still healing from surgery anyone? -- Pat Davies _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Twice the fun?Share photos while you chat with Windows Live Messenger. 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Peace) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 00:44:37 -0000 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cramps Singer Lux Interior Dead? In-Reply-To: References: <024801c986e0$8abb8070$a0328150$@com><6E00D9BB64DD4A71B27510B9C8ECED64@Bell2007PC><74755904-7C2C-45C7-A72A-20F38073D6F8@earthlink.net> <77F22393-4441-4D1C-A3C6-6E16E1E3E752@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <004a01c98b18$c0f35be0$42da13a0$@com> This is great. http://cancomariano.blogspot.com/2009/02/cramps-live-at-cbgbs-13-jan-1978.ht ml Darren Hungerford, UK From jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk Mon Feb 9 21:34:22 2009 From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk (jo) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 02:34:22 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT Mancurians doss Message-ID: <01fa01c98b28$153e58d0$0100000a@jo> Can anyone put us up for a few hours after the Magazine gig on Saturday night? Albeit being abomidle, we're housetrained and very pleasant. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm amazed at how no-one in the audience cracks a smile or anything. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: 09 February 2009 18:12 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Oh dear Wow. Whatta train wreck. Thanks for sending it. However, I think it's actually from a Belgian TV show (unlike what it says). Tot ziens, k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: jo To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 4:53 AM Subject: [kj] Oh dear _____ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk Tue Feb 10 05:37:40 2009 From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk (Janean Lancaster) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 10:37:40 -0000 Subject: [kj] Oh dear References: <001101c98923$0b120200$0100000a@jo><5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DB33@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> Message-ID: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DB37@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> Yeah, figured it couldn't be real- the audience wouldn't have kept so deadpan. Still, it's a good one. That voice IS funny. ________________________________ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 10 February 2009 10:10 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Oh dear No it's from a Belgian comedy show in 2000 / 2001, but it was well acted: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_De_Gloria ________________________________ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Janean Lancaster Sent: Tuesday, 10 February 2009 20:30 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Oh dear It's funny, I've seen it before. Is it for real? I'm amazed at how no-one in the audience cracks a smile or anything... ________________________________ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: 09 February 2009 18:12 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Oh dear Wow. Whatta train wreck. Thanks for sending it. However, I think it's actually from a Belgian TV show (unlike what it says). Tot ziens, k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: jo To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 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This site has some amazing presentations: www.ted.com This is good, Ray Kurzweil on the exponential increase of technology: http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/ray_kurzweil_on_how_technology_will_transform_us.html _______________________________________________Gathering mailing listGathering at misera.nethttp://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail, Messenger, Photos and more - all with the new Windows Live. Get started! http://www.download.live.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Tue Feb 10 20:47:50 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:47:50 -0800 Subject: [kj] Top 10 guitarists - amend to include Poison Ivy? References: <498E7315.1050406@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Agreed, Oliver. She can rock with the best of them! k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 9:52 PM Subject: [kj] Top 10 guitarists - amend to include Poison Ivy? > We all love Geordie. > > Awhile back we all traded Top 10 guitarists lists. I know Poison Ivy of > The Cramps wasn't on mine, foolishly. > > Now that I think about it - why the hell not? Think about the stuff she's > been playing since the mid 1970s. > > -Oliver > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com Tue Feb 10 20:51:25 2009 From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 01:51:25 +0000 Subject: [kj] Top 10 guitarists - amend to include Poison Ivy? In-Reply-To: References: <498E7315.1050406@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: i want to shout out for---joan jet-not bad for a female ;)> From: karen.weil at sddt.com> To: gathering at misera.net> Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:47:50 -0800> Subject: Re: [kj] Top 10 guitarists - amend to include Poison Ivy?> > Agreed, Oliver. She can rock with the best of them!> > k.w.> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" > > Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 9:52 PM> Subject: [kj] Top 10 guitarists - amend to include Poison Ivy?> > > > We all love Geordie.> >> > Awhile back we all traded Top 10 guitarists lists. I know Poison Ivy of > > The Cramps wasn't on mine, foolishly.> >> > Now that I think about it - why the hell not? Think about the stuff she's > > been playing since the mid 1970s.> >> > -Oliver> > _______________________________________________> > Gathering mailing list> > Gathering at misera.net> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> > > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail, Messenger, Photos and more - all with the new Windows Live. Get started! http://www.download.live.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Tue Feb 10 21:25:28 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:25:28 -0800 Subject: [kj] Top 10 guitarists - amend to include Poison Ivy? References: <498E7315.1050406@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: OK, pretty good one too! cheers, k.w ----- Original Message ----- From: melinda grant To: thegathering mailing list Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Top 10 guitarists - amend to include Poison Ivy? i want to shout out for---joan jet-not bad for a female ;) > From: karen.weil at sddt.com > To: gathering at misera.net > Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:47:50 -0800 > Subject: Re: [kj] Top 10 guitarists - amend to include Poison Ivy? > > Agreed, Oliver. She can rock with the best of them! > > k.w. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" > > Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 9:52 PM > Subject: [kj] Top 10 guitarists - amend to include Poison Ivy? > > > > We all love Geordie. > > > > Awhile back we all traded Top 10 guitarists lists. I know Poison Ivy of > > The Cramps wasn't on mine, foolishly. > > > > Now that I think about it - why the hell not? Think about the stuff she's > > been playing since the mid 1970s. > > > > -Oliver > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering at misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Windows Live Hotmail just got better. Find out more! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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OK, pretty good one too! cheers, k.w ----- Original Message ----- From: melinda grant To: thegathering mailing list Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Top 10 guitarists - amend to include Poison Ivy? i want to shout out for---joan jet-not bad for a female ;) > From: karen.weil at sddt.com > To: gathering at misera.net > Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:47:50 -0800 > Subject: Re: [kj] Top 10 guitarists - amend to include Poison Ivy? > > Agreed, Oliver. She can rock with the best of them! > > k.w. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" > > Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 9:52 PM > Subject: [kj] Top 10 guitarists - amend to include Poison Ivy? > > > > We all love Geordie. > > > > Awhile back we all traded Top 10 guitarists lists. I know Poison Ivy of > > The Cramps wasn't on mine, foolishly. > > > > Now that I think about it - why the hell not? Think about the stuff she's > > been playing since the mid 1970s. > > > > -Oliver > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering at misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____ Windows Live Hotmail just got better. Find out more! _____ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From pmdavies at gmail.com Wed Feb 11 09:02:45 2009 From: pmdavies at gmail.com (iPat) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:02:45 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT: webshots In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1646350c0902110602r58ba2471ob9f4a0c4191181d0@mail.gmail.com> bore the list! On 2/11/09, a.madani at anirrationaldomain.net wrote: > > Does anyone know how to break the code in webshots so you can download the > pictures outside the software? I think they use Adobe Flash Player 10. > > You can reply to me direct instead of boring the entire list with it: > > a.madani at anirrationaldomain.net > > > thanks in advance for any & all assistance. > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > -- Pat Davies Aberdeen Martial Arts Group www.amag.org.uk Rehome a Boxer: www.boxerwelfarescotland.co.uk Martin Luther King's Dream is no longer a Dream. It's become an intellectual commodity, a plastic-wrapped piece of schmaltz, a gift wrapped platitude so far removed from its revolutionary roots as a Che Guevara T shirt. one size fits all From Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk Wed Feb 11 09:20:37 2009 From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk (Phillipps Marc) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:20:37 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT: webshots References: Message-ID: I will bore the list as it may be useful to them as well :) This "should" do it http://naturesgraffiti.com/naturesgraffiti.php/2008/01/15/how-to-mass-do wnload-webshotscom-albums-using-free-software/ -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of a.madani at anirrationaldomain.net Sent: 11 February 2009 13:40 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: [kj] OT: webshots Does anyone know how to break the code in webshots so you can download the pictures outside the software? I think they use Adobe Flash Player 10. 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From jpwhkj at aol.com Wed Feb 11 17:55:31 2009 From: jpwhkj at aol.com (jpwhkj at aol.com) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:55:31 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks In-Reply-To: References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072376@mr-pants.the-lab.local><6461981F-3B5A-4900-90AB-B079CC74BA96@earthlink.net><1646350c0901311216mf52c824tc62ca2fdc8cc3243@mail.gmail.com><1646350c0901311424w6d2ca965q94b95129bbb23c73@mail.gmail.com><0CFDE267-4200-4E0E-8EBB-66199AE47DE6@earthlink.net><0KED00N6PGQ313E0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net><1646350c0901312357w598b702fw2cb70aa5dfd42f71@mail.gmail.com> <0KEE00D5W6YPXNX0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Message-ID: <8CB5AB2F9D44FFB-E40-203B@WEBMAIL-DY01.sysops.aol.com> LOL.? I could have skipped all the thousands of Gathering emails over the years and just read that one. Jamie -----Original Message----- From: fluke fluke To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:17 Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks Can I join in ? What are we arguing about ? I can be bothered to read all the posts Israel was defending itself, Hammas are terrorists , there is no global warming , Bildernberg group do not rule the World and neither do green lizards............and the Democracy album wasn't very good? ...........and the UK invented Punk .....who f'king wants it ? ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpeace at bigfoot.com Wed Feb 11 19:47:52 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:47:52 -0000 Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine In-Reply-To: <1646350c0902110602r58ba2471ob9f4a0c4191181d0@mail.gmail.com> References: <1646350c0902110602r58ba2471ob9f4a0c4191181d0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00ee01c98cab$8a2b0060$9e810120$@com> Oh fuck. Fuckitty fuck (if one can say that without sounding like Hugh bloody Grant). Magazine did a "secret" warm-up gig in Oxford. LAST NIGHT! And I missed it. Bah. Darren Hungerford, UK From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net Wed Feb 11 19:48:27 2009 From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:48:27 -0600 Subject: [kj] The Cramps Message-ID: <499371DB.5070807@sbcglobal.net> Who could imagine a more perfect couple, marriage-wise, or any-otherwise, than Lux and Poison Ivy, who is the most underrated guitarist on the planet, probably because she is a gal? They made sick fetish stuff seem like the coolest Americana fun. Since, like, 1974. Did I post this Cramps song yet? "God Damn Rock 'n Roll," ca. 1989, in the wake of the whole Tipper Gore/PMRC/"Parental Advisory" controversy. THE CRAMPS - "God Damn Rock 'n Roll" mp3: http://www.kvltpunk.com/audio/CRAMPS_-_God_Damn_Rock_n_Roll.mp3 -Oliver From karen.weil at sddt.com Wed Feb 11 20:52:51 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:52:51 -0800 Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine References: <1646350c0902110602r58ba2471ob9f4a0c4191181d0@mail.gmail.com> <00ee01c98cab$8a2b0060$9e810120$@com> Message-ID: <10D19D34B7DD41C6B4BF2988EB9725B7@edweil> Hey -- I just watched "Four Weddings & A Funeral!" F*** a doodle do! ; ) Cheers, k.w. another "frightful" American ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren A. Peace" To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 4:47 PM Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine > Oh fuck. Fuckitty fuck (if one can say that without sounding like Hugh > bloody Grant). > > Magazine did a "secret" warm-up gig in Oxford. LAST NIGHT! And I missed > it. > > Bah. > > Darren > Hungerford, UK > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com Wed Feb 11 21:09:44 2009 From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 02:09:44 +0000 Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine In-Reply-To: <10D19D34B7DD41C6B4BF2988EB9725B7@edweil> References: <1646350c0902110602r58ba2471ob9f4a0c4191181d0@mail.gmail.com> <00ee01c98cab$8a2b0060$9e810120$@com> <10D19D34B7DD41C6B4BF2988EB9725B7@edweil> Message-ID: thats a good movie--i like hugh grant movie she may be a distant relative of mine ;D cheers-milindafgrant ;P ps ever seen -bitter moon? hugh grant does a very amusing role in that!> From: karen.weil at sddt.com> To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; gathering at misera.net> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:52:51 -0800> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine> > Hey -- I just watched "Four Weddings & A Funeral!"> F*** a doodle do! ; )> > Cheers,> > k.w.> another "frightful" American> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Darren A. Peace" > To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" > > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 4:47 PM> Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine> > > > Oh fuck. Fuckitty fuck (if one can say that without sounding like Hugh> > bloody Grant).> >> > Magazine did a "secret" warm-up gig in Oxford. LAST NIGHT! And I missed > > it.> >> > Bah.> >> > Darren> > Hungerford, UK> >> > _______________________________________________> > Gathering mailing list> > Gathering at misera.net> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> > > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Check out the new and improved services from Windows Live. Learn more! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/132630768/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of melinda grant Sent: 12 February 2009 02:10 To: thegathering mailing list Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine thats a good movie--i like hugh grant movie she may be a distant relative of mine ;D cheers-milindafgrant ;P ps ever seen -bitter moon? hugh grant does a very amusing role in that! > From: karen.weil at sddt.com > To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; gathering at misera.net > Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:52:51 -0800 > Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine > > Hey -- I just watched "Four Weddings & A Funeral!" > F*** a doodle do! ; ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The official NIN website has been posting intriguing photos of various Jane's members working not just with Trent but with the rest of NIN as well. T.B. From karen.weil at sddt.com Thu Feb 12 13:16:28 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 10:16:28 -0800 Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine References: <1646350c0902110602r58ba2471ob9f4a0c4191181d0@mail.gmail.com><00ee01c98cab$8a2b0060$9e810120$@com> <10D19D34B7DD41C6B4BF2988EB9725B7@edweil> Message-ID: Indeed, a bloody great comedy! If Hugh's a relative, please tell him "hello" for me! Cheers, k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: melinda grant To: thegathering mailing list Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine thats a good movie--i like hugh grant movie she may be a distant relative of mine ;D cheers-milindafgrant ;P ps ever seen -bitter moon? hugh grant does a very amusing role in that! > From: karen.weil at sddt.com > To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; gathering at misera.net > Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:52:51 -0800 > Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine > > Hey -- I just watched "Four Weddings & A Funeral!" > F*** a doodle do! ; ) > > Cheers, > > k.w. > another "frightful" American > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Darren A. Peace" > To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" > > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 4:47 PM > Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine > > > > Oh fuck. Fuckitty fuck (if one can say that without sounding like Hugh > > bloody Grant). > > > > Magazine did a "secret" warm-up gig in Oxford. LAST NIGHT! And I missed > > it. > > > > Bah. > > > > Darren > > Hungerford, UK > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering at misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Beyond Hotmail - see what else you can do with Windows Live Find out more! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If Hugh's a relative, please tell him "hello" for me! Cheers, k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: melinda grant To: thegathering mailing list Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine thats a good movie--i like hugh grant movie she may be a distant relative of mine ;D cheers-milindafgrant ;P ps ever seen -bitter moon? hugh grant does a very amusing role in that!> From: karen.weil at sddt.com> To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; gathering at misera.net> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:52:51 -0800> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine> > Hey -- I just watched "Four Weddings & A Funeral!"> F*** a doodle do! ; )> > Cheers,> > k.w.> another "frightful" American> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Darren A. Peace" > To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" > > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 4:47 PM> Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine> > > > Oh fuck. Fuckitty fuck (if one can say that without sounding like Hugh> > bloody Grant).> >> > Magazine did a "secret" warm-up gig in Oxford. LAST NIGHT! And I missed > > it.> >> > Bah.> >> > Darren> > Hungerford, UK> >> > _______________________________________________> > Gathering mailing list> > Gathering at misera.net> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> > > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering Beyond Hotmail - see what else you can do with Windows Live Find out more! _______________________________________________Gathering mailing listGathering at misera.nethttp://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail, Messenger, Photos and more - all with the new Windows Live. Get started! http://www.download.live.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The club holds about 700 people so it's > going to be a larger show then the past two bar dates.> > http://www.janesaddiction.com/> > http://www.attheecho.com/> > Also, it appears at the very least, there will be a co-headining tour later > this Spring/Summer with Jane's Addiction and Nine Inch Nails. Jane's is > apparantly recording new music with Trent Reznor in Reznor's studio. The > official NIN website has been posting intriguing photos of various Jane's > members working not just with Trent but with the rest of NIN as well.> > T.B. > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail, Messenger, Photos and more - all with the new Windows Live. Get started! http://www.download.live.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You need to sign up on the > offical Jane's site to be a member and get an e-mail notification you're on > the "list" to get in the show. The club holds about 700 people so it's > going to be a larger show then the past two bar dates.> > http://www.janesaddiction.com/> > http://www.attheecho.com/> > Also, it appears at the very least, there will be a co-headining tour later > this Spring/Summer with Jane's Addiction and Nine Inch Nails. Jane's is > apparantly recording new music with Trent Reznor in Reznor's studio. The > official NIN website has been posting intriguing photos of various Jane's > members working not just with Trent but with the rest of NIN as well.> > T.B. > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering Windows Live Hotmail just got better. 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Regards, Antoni From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Thu Feb 12 16:09:58 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 08:09:58 +1100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Another Jane's Addiction Surprise Show in LA In-Reply-To: References: <1646350c0902110602r58ba2471ob9f4a0c4191181d0@mail.gmail.com><00ee01c98cab$8a2b0060$9e810120$@com><10D19D34B7DD41C6B4BF2988EB9725B7@edweil> Message-ID: <3226807D860047B4A9BD03993962D219@Soundgardener> I'm seeing NIN on Monday back in New Zealan.(to be honest I've been listening to them a bit lately and I still don't really "get it" but so many people who like what I like, like them, so.do the math. We'll see.and I'm catching Iron Maiden the following Friday, they're in a similar boat actually.) _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of melinda grant Sent: Friday, 13 February 2009 05:54 To: thegathering mailing list Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Another Jane's Addiction Surprise Show in LA wow--thanks mighty tb-- for that info--janes and nine inch nails playing together-on same bill--just hope they make it to the u. play any gig around then,i will be there hopefully ;) milindafgrant > From: planetary at socal.rr.com > To: gathering at misera.net > Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:19:49 -0800 > Subject: [kj] (OT) Another Jane's Addiction Surprise Show in LA > > Monday night around 10 - 11pm at Echoplex in LA. You need to sign up on the > offical Jane's site to be a member and get an e-mail notification you're on > the "list" to get in the show. The club holds about 700 people so it's > going to be a larger show then the past two bar dates. > > http://www.janesaddiction.com/ > > http://www.attheecho.com/ > > Also, it appears at the very least, there will be a co-headining tour later > this Spring/Summer with Jane's Addiction and Nine Inch Nails. Jane's is > apparantly recording new music with Trent Reznor in Reznor's studio. The > official NIN website has been posting intriguing photos of various Jane's > members working not just with Trent but with the rest of NIN as well. > > T.B. > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____ Windows Live Hotmail just got better. Find out more! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpeace at bigfoot.com Thu Feb 12 16:13:44 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:13:44 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT : UK Decay to play shows in Italy & UK during 2009 In-Reply-To: <49D742FC39D04F4CB374313F3FDCBEAB@MarinaPC> References: <498E7315.1050406@sbcglobal.net> <49D742FC39D04F4CB374313F3FDCBEAB@MarinaPC> Message-ID: <007701c98d56$d1e10a20$75a31e60$@com> Fantastic news! Saw on their myspace that they'd done a couple of gigs I couldn't get to last year, and it'll be brilliant to finally retire the vinyl rip I did of "For Madmen Only" before I knew much about noise reduction and normalisation. Still a very strong album. Darren Hungerford, UK -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of pssyche23 Sent: 12 February 2009 20:54 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: [kj] OT : UK Decay to play shows in Italy & UK during 2009 * http://www.ukdecay.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5977 * Also note that their sole album "For Madmen Only" is due for a long overdue SD re-release ... it is expected to include some extra tracks ... Regards, Antoni _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From darren.peace at greyvelvet.co.uk Thu Feb 12 16:17:26 2009 From: darren.peace at greyvelvet.co.uk (Darren A. Peace) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:17:26 +0000 Subject: [kj] [OT] Test In-Reply-To: <00ee01c98cab$8a2b0060$9e810120$@com> References: <1646350c0902110602r58ba2471ob9f4a0c4191181d0@mail.gmail.com> <00ee01c98cab$8a2b0060$9e810120$@com> Message-ID: It's a test. I'd ignore it if I were you. Darren Hungerford, UK From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com Thu Feb 12 16:31:26 2009 From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:31:26 +0000 Subject: [kj] (OT) Another Jane's Addiction/magazine In-Reply-To: <3226807D860047B4A9BD03993962D219@Soundgardener> References: <1646350c0902110602r58ba2471ob9f4a0c4191181d0@mail.gmail.com><00ee01c98cab$8a2b0060$9e810120$@com><10D19D34B7DD41C6B4BF2988EB9725B7@edweil> <3226807D860047B4A9BD03993962D219@Soundgardener> Message-ID: why are you going to see nin if your not into them? i am not really a fan of iron maiden ive tried but it didnt work on me,however i like alice cooper for many years and you know what i think of the led zep ;) seeing as we are talking rock thought id add those 2 ;p milindafgrant ps hope you enjoy nin gig i would,you may even be more converted after seeing them ;D PPS nin are not rock i suppose there indie or.............darren---u missed the secret gig,never mind, magazine are at the forum tonight and tomoz if your interested-its sold out but there maybe someone selling there ticket outside or theres always the touts-good luck if you go From: bq at soundgardener.co.nzTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 08:09:58 +1100Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Another Jane's Addiction Surprise Show in LA I?m seeing NIN on Monday back in New Zealan?(to be honest I?ve been listening to them a bit lately and I still don?t really ?get it? but so many people who like what I like, like them, so?do the math. We?ll see?and I?m catching Iron Maiden the following Friday, they?re in a similar boat actually?) From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of melinda grantSent: Friday, 13 February 2009 05:54To: thegathering mailing listSubject: Re: [kj] (OT) Another Jane's Addiction Surprise Show in LA wow--thanks mighty tb-- for that info--janes and nine inch nails playing together-on same bill--just hope they make it to the u. play any gig around then,i will be there hopefully ;) milindafgrant> From: planetary at socal.rr.com> To: gathering at misera.net> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:19:49 -0800> Subject: [kj] (OT) Another Jane's Addiction Surprise Show in LA> > Monday night around 10 - 11pm at Echoplex in LA. You need to sign up on the > offical Jane's site to be a member and get an e-mail notification you're on > the "list" to get in the show. The club holds about 700 people so it's > going to be a larger show then the past two bar dates.> > http://www.janesaddiction.com/> > http://www.attheecho.com/> > Also, it appears at the very least, there will be a co-headining tour later > this Spring/Summer with Jane's Addiction and Nine Inch Nails. Jane's is > apparantly recording new music with Trent Reznor in Reznor's studio. The > official NIN website has been posting intriguing photos of various Jane's > members working not just with Trent but with the rest of NIN as well.> > T.B. > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering Windows Live Hotmail just got better. Find out more! _________________________________________________________________ Check out the new and improved services from Windows Live. Learn more! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/132630768/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From antoni at clara.net Thu Feb 12 16:40:52 2009 From: antoni at clara.net (pssyche23) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:40:52 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT : UK Decay to play shows in Italy & UK during 2009 In-Reply-To: <007701c98d56$d1e10a20$75a31e60$@com> References: <498E7315.1050406@sbcglobal.net><49D742FC39D04F4CB374313F3FDCBEAB@MarinaPC> <007701c98d56$d1e10a20$75a31e60$@com> Message-ID: <928E9954044A4244BE311E35759F9528@MarinaPC> Indeed it is Darren ... and I meant to type CD, not SD ... reading the notes of "Death So Fatal" the bits & bobs CD they brought out a year or so back, it seems like they did briefly reform in 1993 (there are a couple of 1993 remixes on the CD) but it never came to much (I think Abbo was managing EMF in the early 90's) then sadly drummer Steve Harle passed away in 1995 ... Spon seems to be behind recent activity - not sure who drummed last year - I too couldn't make the proper reunion show in Luton last year. Poor effort on my part since it was less than 10 miles away. Family commitments methinks. Surely they would be wise to set up a London date ? I hope so. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 12 February 2009 21:14 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] OT : UK Decay to play shows in Italy & UK during 2009 Fantastic news! Saw on their myspace that they'd done a couple of gigs I couldn't get to last year, and it'll be brilliant to finally retire the vinyl rip I did of "For Madmen Only" before I knew much about noise reduction and normalisation. Still a very strong album. Darren Hungerford, UK -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of pssyche23 Sent: 12 February 2009 20:54 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: [kj] OT : UK Decay to play shows in Italy & UK during 2009 * http://www.ukdecay.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5977 * Also note that their sole album "For Madmen Only" is due for a long overdue SD re-release ... it is expected to include some extra tracks ... Regards, Antoni _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.234 / Virus Database: 270.10.20/1944 - Release Date: 02/10/09 17:44:00 From darren.peace at greyvelvet.co.uk Thu Feb 12 17:19:16 2009 From: darren.peace at greyvelvet.co.uk (Darren A. Peace) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:19:16 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT : UK Decay to play shows in Italy & UK during 2009 In-Reply-To: <928E9954044A4244BE311E35759F9528@MarinaPC> References: <498E7315.1050406@sbcglobal.net><49D742FC39D04F4CB374313F3FDCBEAB@MarinaPC> <007701c98d56$d1e10a20$75a31e60$@com> <928E9954044A4244BE311E35759F9528@MarinaPC> Message-ID: I'd love to hear Jerusalem live. London date? I'm there. Didn't pick up the "Death So Fatal", although I did convert my Night For Celebration cassette to MP3 a few years back. And yes, Abbo was definitely managing EMF; I met him a couple of times around then. Used to know Ian Dench, the old, rich one from EMF. I'm really pleased a CD is finally planned - I understand that Abbo was against the idea. No idea why. It's a fantastic album. Saw Furyo a couple of times too. They were great both times, although once IIRC they were supported by the March Violets who were so rank I nearly left! Darren Hungerford, UK -----Original Message----- From: pssyche23 [mailto:antoni at clara.net] Sent: 12 February 2009 21:41 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: RE: [kj] OT : UK Decay to play shows in Italy & UK during 2009 Indeed it is Darren ... and I meant to type CD, not SD ... reading the notes of "Death So Fatal" the bits & bobs CD they brought out a year or so back, it seems like they did briefly reform in 1993 (there are a couple of 1993 remixes on the CD) but it never came to much (I think Abbo was managing EMF in the early 90's) then sadly drummer Steve Harle passed away in 1995 ... Spon seems to be behind recent activity - not sure who drummed last year - I too couldn't make the proper reunion show in Luton last year. Poor effort on my part since it was less than 10 miles away. Family commitments methinks. Surely they would be wise to set up a London date ? I hope so. From darren.peace at greyvelvet.co.uk Thu Feb 12 17:49:54 2009 From: darren.peace at greyvelvet.co.uk (Darren A. Peace) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:49:54 +0000 Subject: [kj] [OT] Test In-Reply-To: References: <1646350c0902110602r58ba2471ob9f4a0c4191181d0@mail.gmail.com> <00ee01c98cab$8a2b0060$9e810120$@com> Message-ID: Another one. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 12 February 2009 21:17 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: [kj] [OT] Test It's a test. I'd ignore it if I were you. Darren Hungerford, UK _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From folk.devil at hotmail.com Thu Feb 12 18:01:51 2009 From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:01:51 -0800 Subject: [kj] OT : UK Decay to play shows in Italy & UK during 2009 In-Reply-To: References: <498E7315.1050406@sbcglobal.net><49D742FC39D04F4CB374313F3FDCBEAB@MarinaPC> <007701c98d56$d1e10a20$75a31e60$@com> <928E9954044A4244BE311E35759F9528@MarinaPC> Message-ID: I wonder if Abbo still goes to Blockers? :) Although I think it is probably long gone by now....> From: darren.peace at greyvelvet.co.uk> To: antoni at clara.net; dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; gathering at misera.net> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:19:16 +0000> Subject: Re: [kj] OT : UK Decay to play shows in Italy & UK during 2009> > I'd love to hear Jerusalem live. London date? I'm there.> > Didn't pick up the "Death So Fatal", although I did convert my Night For> Celebration cassette to MP3 a few years back. And yes, Abbo was definitely> managing EMF; I met him a couple of times around then. Used to know Ian> Dench, the old, rich one from EMF.> > I'm really pleased a CD is finally planned - I understand that Abbo was> against the idea. No idea why. It's a fantastic album.> > Saw Furyo a couple of times too. They were great both times, although once> IIRC they were supported by the March Violets who were so rank I nearly> left!> > Darren> Hungerford, UK> _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_explore_022009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Peace Sent: 12 February 2009 22:50 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Test Another one. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 12 February 2009 21:17 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: [kj] [OT] Test It's a test. I'd ignore it if I were you. Darren Hungerford, UK From LONESTYLE at aol.com Thu Feb 12 19:26:47 2009 From: LONESTYLE at aol.com (LONESTYLE at aol.com) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 19:26:47 EST Subject: [kj] OT : UK Decay to play shows in Italy & UK during 2009 Message-ID: In a message dated 2/12/2009 1:00:12 PM Pacific Standard Time, antoni at clara.net writes: * http://www.ukdecay.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5977 * Also note that their sole album "For Madmen Only" is due for a long overdue SD re-release ... it is expected to include some extra tracks ... Regards, Antoni I hope they come to the states? Thanks for that Antoni! ~LB **************Nothing says I love you like flowers! Find a florist near you now. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=florist&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000002) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From a.tolksdorf at yahoo.co.uk Thu Feb 12 19:54:59 2009 From: a.tolksdorf at yahoo.co.uk (Alexandra Tolksdorf) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 00:54:59 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] (OT) Oh dear References: Message-ID: <25282.62662.qm@web28611.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> wow, this is some truly weird shit!!! ?~Alexandra. ________________________________ From: folk devil To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Friday, 13 February, 2009 0:14:04 Subject: [kj] (OT) Oh dear http://www.p4cm.com/p4cm/store/launch?1 ? ________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpeace at bigfoot.com Thu Feb 12 20:01:13 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:01:13 -0000 Subject: [kj] (OT) Oh dear In-Reply-To: <25282.62662.qm@web28611.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <25282.62662.qm@web28611.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00c601c98d76$92e7ec60$b8b7c520$@com> Am I wrong to find that brilliantly funny? I particularly like the ?Ex-Slave? one, and have placed my order. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexandra Tolksdorf Sent: 13 February 2009 00:55 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear wow, this is some truly weird shit!!! ~Alexandra. _____ From: folk devil To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Friday, 13 February, 2009 0:14:04 Subject: [kj] (OT) Oh dear http://www.p4cm.com/p4cm/store/launch?1 _____ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Thu Feb 12 20:03:53 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:03:53 -0800 Subject: [kj] [OT] Test References: <1646350c0902110602r58ba2471ob9f4a0c4191181d0@mail.gmail.com> <00ee01c98cab$8a2b0060$9e810120$@com> <00a001c98d71$dfab82f0$9f0288d0$@com> Message-ID: And a-one, and a-two ... ; ) Cheers, k.w. The States ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren A. Peace" To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 4:27 PM Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Test > And ANOTHER one! > > -----Original Message----- > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > On > Behalf Of Darren A. Peace > Sent: 12 February 2009 22:50 > To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' > Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Test > > Another one. > > -----Original Message----- > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > On > Behalf Of Darren A. Peace > Sent: 12 February 2009 21:17 > To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; 'A list about all things Killing Joke > (the > band!)' > Subject: [kj] [OT] Test > > It's a test. I'd ignore it if I were you. > > Darren > Hungerford, UK > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From karen.weil at sddt.com Thu Feb 12 20:07:15 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:07:15 -0800 Subject: [kj] (OT) Oh dear References: <25282.62662.qm@web28611.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <00c601c98d76$92e7ec60$b8b7c520$@com> Message-ID: Like I was saying earlier: Entirely too much! ; ) k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren A. Peace To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear Am I wrong to find that brilliantly funny? I particularly like the ?Ex-Slave? one, and have placed my order. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexandra Tolksdorf Sent: 13 February 2009 00:55 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear wow, this is some truly weird shit!!! ~Alexandra. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: folk devil To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Friday, 13 February, 2009 0:14:04 Subject: [kj] (OT) Oh dear http://www.p4cm.com/p4cm/store/launch?1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com Thu Feb 12 20:29:42 2009 From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:29:42 +0000 Subject: [kj] (OT) Oh dear In-Reply-To: <25282.62662.qm@web28611.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <25282.62662.qm@web28611.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: mind boggling i am baffled lol milindafgrant Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 00:54:59 +0000From: a.tolksdorf at yahoo.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear wow, this is some truly weird shit!!! ~Alexandra. From: folk devil To: gathering at misera.netSent: Friday, 13 February, 2009 0:14:04Subject: [kj] (OT) Oh dear http://www.p4cm.com/p4cm/store/launch?1 Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. _________________________________________________________________ Check out the new and improved services from Windows Live. Learn more! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/132630768/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Thu Feb 12 21:54:38 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:54:38 +1300 (NZDT) Subject: [kj] (OT) Another Jane's Addiction/magazine In-Reply-To: References: <1646350c0902110602r58ba2471ob9f4a0c4191181d0@mail.gmail.com><00ee01c98cab$8a2b0060$9e810120$@com><10D19D34B7DD41C6B4BF2988EB9725B7@edweil> <3226807D860047B4A9BD03993962D219@Soundgardener> Message-ID: <16420.203.210.68.145.1234493678.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> I suppose cos I haven't really given them a full on good try, and live some bands can really surprise (oir disappoint). I've seen Soundgarden, Tool, and RATM, so NIN kind of fleshes out that 90s rock / metal thing. Kinda. I have to say, NIN generally reminds me of Animal from the Muppets doing an industrial remix of Bowie's 'fashion' or 'Fame'. Got convinced to go and see Deep Purple a few years ago and it was a totally brilliant gig, so if it's not too expensive I'm up for giving a band a go. > > why are you going to see nin if your not into them? i am not really a fan > of iron maiden ive tried but it didnt work on me,however i like alice > cooper for many years and you know what i think of the led zep ;) seeing > as we are talking rock thought id add those 2 ;p > > milindafgrant ps hope you enjoy nin gig i would,you may even be more > converted after seeing them ;D PPS nin are not rock i suppose there indie > or.............darren---u missed the secret gig,never mind, magazine are > at the forum tonight and tomoz if your interested-its sold out but there > maybe someone selling there ticket outside or theres always the touts-good > luck if you go > > > > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nzTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 > 08:09:58 +1100Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Another Jane's Addiction Surprise > Show in LA > > > > > > > > I?m seeing NIN on Monday back in New Zealan (to be honest I?ve been > listening to them a bit lately and I still don?t really ?get it? but so > many people who like what I like, like them, so do the math. We?ll see and > I?m catching Iron Maiden the following Friday, they?re in a similar boat > actually ) > > > > > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > On Behalf Of melinda grantSent: Friday, 13 February 2009 05:54To: > thegathering mailing listSubject: Re: [kj] (OT) Another Jane's Addiction > Surprise Show in LA > > wow--thanks mighty tb-- for that info--janes and nine inch nails playing > together-on same bill--just hope they make it to the u. play any gig > around then,i will be there hopefully ;) milindafgrant> From: > planetary at socal.rr.com> To: gathering at misera.net> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 > 09:19:49 -0800> Subject: [kj] (OT) Another Jane's Addiction Surprise Show > in LA> > Monday night around 10 - 11pm at Echoplex in LA. You need to sign > up on the > offical Jane's site to be a member and get an e-mail > notification you're on > the "list" to get in the show. The club holds > about 700 people so it's > going to be a larger show then the past two bar > dates.> > http://www.janesaddiction.com/> > http://www.attheecho.com/> > > Also, it appears at the very least, there will be a co-headining tour > later > this Spring/Summer with Jane's Addiction and Nine Inch Nails. > Jane's is > apparantly recording new music with Trent Reznor in Reznor's > studio. The > official NIN website has been posting intriguing photos of > various Jane's > members working not just with Trent but with the rest of > NIN as well.> > T.B. > > _______________________________________________> > Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > Windows Live Hotmail just got better. Find out more! > _________________________________________________________________ > Check out the new and improved services from Windows Live. Learn more! > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/132630768/direct/01/_______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Thu Feb 12 21:59:44 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:59:44 +1300 (NZDT) Subject: [kj] OT: Bonham Message-ID: <50024.203.210.68.145.1234493984.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> This is kinda random, and might not be news to some From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Thu Feb 12 22:02:34 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:02:34 +1300 (NZDT) Subject: [kj] OT: The Ocean Message-ID: <2313.203.210.68.145.1234494154.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Oops...webmail. Don't blame me. Anyway, I was saying. If you have Led Zeppelin's 'The Ocean', turn up the volume really loud and listen to the Bonham intro...I just cottoned onto it and it's cracking me up. (Turn the vol back down before you do your eardrums more damage.) That's all. As you were. From fatpotanga at gmail.com Fri Feb 13 04:12:23 2009 From: fatpotanga at gmail.com (fatpotanga) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 09:12:23 +0000 Subject: [kj] (OT) Oh dear In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2C4442E3-76FD-4640-B52C-8B152841BBAF@gmail.com> blimey! i can't decide if I find it funny, scary or sad & humiliating. remove the P4C angle, & they'd be great shirts. 'ex -masturbator' or 'ex-homosexual' is finny - or even funny (stupid fat fingers...) "No, I really am an 'ex-masturbator' & jesus saved me from the sin of masturbation" is, IMO, just a gateway to ridicule. I wonder if they also do 'ex-pig fucker or 'ex-pedophile' shirts...? in the name of pun, they should do: 'ex-istentialist' On 13 Feb 2009, at 00:14, folk devil wrote: > http://www.p4cm.com/p4cm/store/launch?1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpeace at bigfoot.com Fri Feb 13 05:36:05 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:36:05 -0000 Subject: [kj] [OT] Test In-Reply-To: <00a001c98d71$dfab82f0$9f0288d0$@com> References: <1646350c0902110602r58ba2471ob9f4a0c4191181d0@mail.gmail.com> <00ee01c98cab$8a2b0060$9e810120$@com> <00a001c98d71$dfab82f0$9f0288d0$@com> Message-ID: <012301c98dc6$e060c890$a12259b0$@com> Yet more. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 13 February 2009 00:28 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Test And ANOTHER one! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 12 February 2009 22:50 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Test Another one. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 12 February 2009 21:17 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: [kj] [OT] Test It's a test. I'd ignore it if I were you. Darren Hungerford, UK _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From 65snoopy at gmail.com Fri Feb 13 06:29:48 2009 From: 65snoopy at gmail.com (Neil Perry) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 12:29:48 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Oh dear In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wow. The comments are great: "I'm so excited. As a former masturbator I plan to get every color." n 2009/2/13 folk devil > http://www.p4cm.com/p4cm/store/launch?1 > > > > ------------------------------ > Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk Fri Feb 13 04:16:56 2009 From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk (Phillipps Marc) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 09:16:56 -0000 Subject: [kj] (OT) Oh dear References: <2C4442E3-76FD-4640-B52C-8B152841BBAF@gmail.com> Message-ID: >in the name of pun, they should do: 'ex-istentialist' Ex-hibitionist ________________________________ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of fatpotanga Sent: 13 February 2009 09:12 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear blimey! i can't decide if I find it funny, scary or sad & humiliating. remove the P4C angle, & they'd be great shirts. 'ex -masturbator' or 'ex-homosexual' is finny - or even funny (stupid fat fingers...) "No, I really am an 'ex-masturbator' & jesus saved me from the sin of masturbation" is, IMO, just a gateway to ridicule. I wonder if they also do 'ex-pig fucker or 'ex-pedophile' shirts...? in the name of pun, they should do: 'ex-istentialist' On 13 Feb 2009, at 00:14, folk devil wrote: http://www.p4cm.com/p4cm/store/launch?1 This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. 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Also available in Throbbing Purple ________________________________ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Neil Perry Sent: 13 February 2009 11:30 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear Wow. The comments are great: "I'm so excited. As a former masturbator I plan to get every color." n 2009/2/13 folk devil http://www.p4cm.com/p4cm/store/launch?1 ________________________________ Windows Live(tm): Keep your life in sync. Check it out. _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). 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Ex-ecrable. Ex-foliate. Ex-hibitionist. Ex-pectorate. Ex-pletive. Ex-terminate. Ex-tramarital. Ex-traterrestrial. And of course Ex-crement. Darren Hungerford, UK -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of fatpotanga Sent: 13 February 2009 12:13 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear Ex-humed _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk Fri Feb 13 10:33:53 2009 From: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk (Jim Harper) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:33:53 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] (OT) Oh dear In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <246400.23652.qm@web25908.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Personally I'd like to recommend they print out a run of t-shirts with 'ex-intelligent' and 'ex-intellectual' on. All of 'em would be eligible for one of those, I suspect. Jim. --- On Fri, 13/2/09, Darren A. Peace wrote: From: Darren A. Peace Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" Date: Friday, 13 February, 2009, 12:27 PM Ec-zema. Ex-ecrable. Ex-foliate. Ex-hibitionist. Ex-pectorate. Ex-pletive. Ex-terminate. Ex-tramarital. Ex-traterrestrial. And of course Ex-crement. Darren Hungerford, UK -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of fatpotanga Sent: 13 February 2009 12:13 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear Ex-humed _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk Fri Feb 13 10:36:36 2009 From: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk (Darren A. Peace) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:36:36 +0000 Subject: [kj] (OT) Oh dear In-Reply-To: <246400.23652.qm@web25908.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <246400.23652.qm@web25908.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <538DF044-04FC-4AF3-A8AF-71A53A2B446E@suspiria.demon.co.uk> Ex-sentient. Darren Hungerford, UK On 13 Feb 2009, at 15:33, Jim Harper wrote: > Personally I'd like to recommend they print out a run of t-shirts > with 'ex-intelligent' and 'ex-intellectual' on. All of 'em would be > eligible for one of those, I suspect. > Jim. > > --- On Fri, 13/2/09, Darren A. Peace > wrote: > From: Darren A. Peace > Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear > To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" > > Date: Friday, 13 February, 2009, 12:27 PM > > Ec-zema. > > Ex-ecrable. > > Ex-foliate. > > Ex-hibitionist. > > Ex-pectorate. > > Ex-pletive. > > Ex-terminate. > > Ex-tramarital. > > Ex-traterrestrial. > > And of course > > Ex-crement. > > Darren > Hungerford, UK > > -----Original Message----- > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net > ] On > Behalf Of fatpotanga > Sent: 13 February 2009 12:13 > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear > > Ex-humed > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jagargal at lycos.com Fri Feb 13 11:49:43 2009 From: jagargal at lycos.com (Javier Garcia) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:49:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: [kj] (OT) Another Jane's Addiction Surprise Show in LA Message-ID: <20090213114943.HM.0000000000009s7@jagargal.mail-wwl12.bo3.lycos.com.lycos.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From folk.devil at hotmail.com Fri Feb 13 12:22:27 2009 From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 09:22:27 -0800 Subject: [kj] (OT) NIN In-Reply-To: <16420.203.210.68.145.1234493678.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> References: <1646350c0902110602r58ba2471ob9f4a0c4191181d0@mail.gmail.com><00ee01c98cab$8a2b0060$9e810120$@com><10D19D34B7DD41C6B4BF2988EB9725B7@edweil> <3226807D860047B4A9BD03993962D219@Soundgardener> <16420.203.210.68.145.1234493678.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: That's a pretty apt description lol! I never really got past 'Broken', although I like the album and 'Pretty hate machine', but NIN have always sounded a bit 'thin' to me, compared to their contemporaries, e.g. ministry. And their sound has become dated to me. I guess he gives the cheese to please..> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:54:38 +1300> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Another Jane's Addiction/magazine> I have to say, NIN generally reminds me of Animal from the Muppets> doing an industrial remix of Bowie's 'fashion' or 'Fame'.> _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_022009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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As you were. > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From karen.weil at sddt.com Fri Feb 13 13:22:16 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:22:16 -0800 Subject: [kj] (OT) Oh dear References: <2C4442E3-76FD-4640-B52C-8B152841BBAF@gmail.com> <4EAF540A-58B6-4797-AC5A-B9E23478EB3C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <616EFAB39BA44B5381583F9621008CBC@edweil> Ex-actly! ; ) k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren A. Peace" To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:27 AM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear > Ec-zema. > > Ex-ecrable. > > Ex-foliate. > > Ex-hibitionist. > > Ex-pectorate. > > Ex-pletive. > > Ex-terminate. > > Ex-tramarital. > > Ex-traterrestrial. > > And of course > > Ex-crement. > > Darren > Hungerford, UK > > -----Original Message----- > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > On > Behalf Of fatpotanga > Sent: 13 February 2009 12:13 > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear > > Ex-humed > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From a.madani at anirrationaldomain.net Fri Feb 13 13:23:06 2009 From: a.madani at anirrationaldomain.net (a.madani at anirrationaldomain.net) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 12:23:06 -0600 Subject: [kj] OT: webshots In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: works a treat - many thanks! Phillipps Marc writes: > I will bore the list as it may be useful to them as well :) > > This "should" do it > > http://naturesgraffiti.com/naturesgraffiti.php/2008/01/15/how-to-mass-do > wnload-webshotscom-albums-using-free-software/ From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com Fri Feb 13 13:26:31 2009 From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:26:31 +0000 Subject: [kj] (OT) Oh dear In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: LOL LOL LOL NEIL TRUST YOU ;D)))))) lol lol Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 12:29:48 +0100From: 65snoopy at gmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dearWow.The comments are great:"I'm so excited. As a former masturbator I plan to get every color."n 2009/2/13 folk devil http://www.p4cm.com/p4cm/store/launch?1 Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. Check it out._______________________________________________Gathering mailing listGathering at misera.nethttp://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Twice the fun?Share photos while you chat with Windows Live Messenger. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/uk/windows/windowslive/products/messenger.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Fri Feb 13 13:28:06 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:28:06 -0800 Subject: [kj] (OT) Oh dear References: Message-ID: <329BDF9AF1D448DCA3CD61E42CCE8D35@edweil> Don't forget Randy Red! ; ) k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Phillipps Marc To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 3:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear >"I'm so excited. As a former masturbator I plan to get every color." 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Peace wrote: >Ec-zema. > >Ex-ecrable. > >Ex-foliate. > >Ex-hibitionist. > >Ex-pectorate. > >Ex-pletive. > >Ex-terminate. > >Ex-tramarital. > >Ex-traterrestrial. > >And of course > >Ex-crement. > >Darren >Hungerford, UK > >-----Original Message----- >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On >Behalf Of fatpotanga >Sent: 13 February 2009 12:13 >To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) >Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear > >Ex-humed >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering at misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering at misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Darren Hungerford, UK -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of fatpotanga Sent: 13 February 2009 12:13 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear Ex-humed _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com Fri Feb 13 17:30:41 2009 From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com (The Exorcist) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:30:41 -0500 Subject: [kj] (OT) Oh dear In-Reply-To: <38218728FB7B4FB386678FE5DEBB0CB6@edweil> References: <2C4442E3-76FD-4640-B52C-8B152841BBAF@gmail.com> <4EAF540A-58B6-4797-AC5A-B9E23478EB3C@gmail.com> <0KF000LUAYQSCEC0@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> <38218728FB7B4FB386678FE5DEBB0CB6@edweil> Message-ID: <0KF000LFXZVDG7D0@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Likewise... and I love lameness! The bigger the groan or forehead smack the more I enjoy it! A guy walks into the Dr's office and has a peace of lettuce sticking out of his ass and says he has many problems. The Dr. tells him "Sir you have a piece of lettuce sticking out of your ass" The guy replies, "I know! I know! and that's the just the tip of the Iceberg!" Happy Weekend! At 05:10 PM 2/13/2009, Karen Weil wrote: >Righto, Ex-orcist! >(I know, that was super-lame, but it's Friday!) > >Happy Weekend, > >k.w. >----- Original Message ----- >From: The Exorcist >To: A list about all things Killing >Joke (the band!) >Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 2:06 PM >Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear > >Need I even say anything? LOL > >But for the hell of it. I'll add one outside the obvious. >Ex-Lax > >At 07:27 AM 2/13/2009, Darren A. Peace wrote: >>Ec-zema. >> >>Ex-ecrable. >> >>Ex-foliate. >> >>Ex-hibitionist. >> >>Ex-pectorate. >> >>Ex-pletive. >> >>Ex-terminate. >> >>Ex-tramarital. >> >>Ex-traterrestrial. >> >>And of course >> >>Ex-crement. >> >>Darren >>Hungerford, UK >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On >>Behalf Of fatpotanga >>Sent: 13 February 2009 12:13 >>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) >>Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear >> >>Ex-humed >>_______________________________________________ >>Gathering mailing list >>Gathering at misera.net >>http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Gathering mailing list >>Gathering at misera.net >>http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > >---------- >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering at misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering at misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The Dr. tells him "Sir you have a piece of lettuce sticking out of your ass" The guy replies, "I know! I know! and that's the just the tip of the Iceberg!" Happy Weekend! At 05:10 PM 2/13/2009, Karen Weil wrote: Righto, Ex-orcist! (I know, that was super-lame, but it's Friday!) Happy Weekend, k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: The Exorcist To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 2:06 PM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear Need I even say anything? LOL But for the hell of it. I'll add one outside the obvious. Ex-Lax At 07:27 AM 2/13/2009, Darren A. Peace wrote: Ec-zema. Ex-ecrable. Ex-foliate. Ex-hibitionist. Ex-pectorate. Ex-pletive. Ex-terminate. Ex-tramarital. Ex-traterrestrial. And of course Ex-crement. Darren Hungerford, UK -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of fatpotanga Sent: 13 February 2009 12:13 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 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URL: From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com Fri Feb 13 19:52:00 2009 From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:52:00 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT: The Ocean In-Reply-To: <2313.203.210.68.145.1234494154.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> References: <2313.203.210.68.145.1234494154.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: i have ringing in my ears now lol-btw that whole album-houses of the holy by led zep is cool, in my top ten ;) milindafgrant> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:02:34 +1300> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: [kj] OT: The Ocean> > Oops...webmail. Don't blame me.> > Anyway, I was saying. If you have Led Zeppelin's 'The Ocean', turn up the> volume really loud and listen to the Bonham intro...I just cottoned onto> it and it's cracking me up. (Turn the vol back down before you do your> eardrums more damage.)> > That's all. 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URL: From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com Fri Feb 13 19:57:57 2009 From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:57:57 +0000 Subject: [kj] (OT) Another Jane's Addiction/magazine In-Reply-To: <16420.203.210.68.145.1234493678.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> References: <1646350c0902110602r58ba2471ob9f4a0c4191181d0@mail.gmail.com><00ee01c98cab$8a2b0060$9e810120$@com><10D19D34B7DD41C6B4BF2988EB9725B7@edweil> <3226807D860047B4A9BD03993962D219@Soundgardener> <16420.203.210.68.145.1234493678.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: animal from the muppets-now theres a star lol,go and have a great time at nin gig wish i was going! talking about-deep purple,i see that they will be playing a gig here in london in december,dont know much about there music but i think i will give them a go,nothing ventured,nothing gained hay ;) milindafgrant ps id love to see soundgarden live ;D> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:54:38 +1300> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz> To: gathering at misera.net> Subje hay ;)ct: Re: [kj] (OT) Another Jane's Addiction/magazine> > I suppose cos I haven't really given them a full on good try, and live> some bands can really surprise (oir disappoint). I've seen Soundgarden,> Tool, and RATM, so NIN kind of fleshes out that 90s rock / metal thing.> Kinda. I have to say, NIN generally reminds me of Animal from the Muppets> doing an industrial remix of Bowie's 'fashion' or 'Fame'.> > Got convinced to go and see Deep Purple a few years ago and it was a> totally brilliant gig, so if it's not too expensive I'm up for giving a> band a go.> > >> > why are you going to see nin if your not into them? i am not really a fan> > of iron maiden ive tried but it didnt work on me,however i like alice> > cooper for many years and you know what i think of the led zep ;) seeing> > as we are talking rock thought id add those 2 ;p> >> > milindafgrant ps hope you enjoy nin gig i would,you may even be more> > converted after seeing them ;D PPS nin are not rock i suppose there indie> > or.............darren---u missed the secret gig,never mind, magazine are> > at the forum tonight and tomoz if your interested-its sold out but there> > maybe someone selling there ticket outside or theres always the touts-good> > luck if you go> >> >> >> > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nzTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Fri, 13 Feb 2009> > 08:09:58 +1100Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Another Jane's Addiction Surprise> > Show in LA> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I?m seeing NIN on Monday back in New Zealan?(to be honest I?ve been> > listening to them a bit lately and I still don?t really ?get it? but so> > many people who like what I like, like them, so?do the math. We?ll see?and> > I?m catching Iron Maiden the following Friday, they?re in a similar boat> > actually?)> >> >> >> >> >> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]> > On Behalf Of melinda grantSent: Friday, 13 February 2009 05:54To:> > thegathering mailing listSubject: Re: [kj] (OT) Another Jane's Addiction> > Surprise Show in LA> >> > wow--thanks mighty tb-- for that info--janes and nine inch nails playing> > together-on same bill--just hope they make it to the u. play any gig> > around then,i will be there hopefully ;) milindafgrant> From:> > planetary at socal.rr.com> To: gathering at misera.net> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009> > 09:19:49 -0800> Subject: [kj] (OT) Another Jane's Addiction Surprise Show> > in LA> > Monday night around 10 - 11pm at Echoplex in LA. You need to sign> > up on the > offical Jane's site to be a member and get an e-mail> > notification you're on > the "list" to get in the show. The club holds> > about 700 people so it's > going to be a larger show then the past two bar> > dates.> > http://www.janesaddiction.com/> > http://www.attheecho.com/> >> > Also, it appears at the very least, there will be a co-headining tour> > later > this Spring/Summer with Jane's Addiction and Nine Inch Nails.> > Jane's is > apparantly recording new music with Trent Reznor in Reznor's> > studio. The > official NIN website has been posting intriguing photos of> > various Jane's > members working not just with Trent but with the rest of> > NIN as well.> > T.B. > > _______________________________________________>> > Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net>> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> >> >> >> > Windows Live Hotmail just got better. Find out more!> > _________________________________________________________________> > Check out the new and improved services from Windows Live. 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The bigger the groan or forehead >smack the more I enjoy it! > >A guy walks into the Dr's office and has a peace of lettuce sticking >out of his ass and says he has many problems. >The Dr. tells him "Sir you have a piece of lettuce sticking out of your ass" >The guy replies, "I know! I know! and that's the just the tip of the Iceberg!" > >Happy Weekend! > >At 05:10 PM 2/13/2009, Karen Weil wrote: >>Righto, Ex-orcist! >>(I know, that was super-lame, but it's Friday!) >> >>Happy Weekend, >> >>k.w. >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: The Exorcist >>To: A list about all things Killing >>Joke (the band!) >>Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 2:06 PM >>Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear >>Need I even say anything? LOL >>But for the hell of it. I'll add one outside the obvious. >>Ex-Lax >>At 07:27 AM 2/13/2009, Darren A. Peace wrote: >>>Ec-zema. >>>Ex-ecrable. >>>Ex-foliate. >>>Ex-hibitionist. >>>Ex-pectorate. >>>Ex-pletive. >>>Ex-terminate. >>>Ex-tramarital. >>>Ex-traterrestrial. >>>And of course >>>Ex-crement. >>> >>>Darren >>>Hungerford, UK >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ >>>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On >>>Behalf Of fatpotanga >>>Sent: 13 February 2009 12:13 >>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) >>>Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear >>>Ex-humed >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Gathering mailing list >>>Gathering at misera.net >>>http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Gathering mailing list >>>Gathering at misera.net >>>http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> >>---------- >>_______________________________________________ >>Gathering mailing list >>Gathering at misera.net >>http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Gathering mailing list >>Gathering at misera.net >>http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > >---------- >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering at misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering at misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That belongs here: http://thisiswhyyourefat.com/ Bon appetit! Alex in NYC On Feb 14, 2009, at 12:37 PM, Concrete Cookie wrote: > http://www.supersizedmeals.com/food/article.php/20080212-The_Meat_Ship > > only 17,000 calories! > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > http://www.myspace.com/kinga > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Windows Live?: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. Check > it out. _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From concrete_cookie at hotmail.com Sat Feb 14 12:50:49 2009 From: concrete_cookie at hotmail.com (Concrete Cookie) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 09:50:49 -0800 Subject: [kj] OT: all aboard the MEAT SHIP! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've just been told there is MEAT SHIP "the movie" ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmyDyCbslEc From: concrete_cookie at hotmail.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 09:37:59 -0800 Subject: [kj] OT: all aboard the MEAT SHIP! http://www.supersizedmeals.com/food/article.php/20080212-The_Meat_Ship only 17,000 calories! ----------------------------------------------------------- http://www.myspace.com/kinga ----------------------------------------------------------- Windows Live?: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. Check it out. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_howitworks_022009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From bettedillinger at live.com Sat Feb 14 19:00:49 2009 From: bettedillinger at live.com (Bette Dillinger) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 19:00:49 -0500 Subject: [kj] (OT) Oh dear In-Reply-To: <0KF100ETA8GXQDE0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> References: <2C4442E3-76FD-4640-B52C-8B152841BBAF@gmail.com> <4EAF540A-58B6-4797-AC5A-B9E23478EB3C@gmail.com> <0KF000LUAYQSCEC0@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> <38218728FB7B4FB386678FE5DEBB0CB6@edweil> <0KF000LFXZVDG7D0@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> <0KF100ETA8GXQDE0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Message-ID: Go Rappin' Rodney Dangerfield!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 20:36:25 -0500From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dearROFLAt 07:11 PM 2/13/2009, Karen Weil wrote: Bah-duh-dum! Oh!Good one, Yos. "I just flew in from New York ... and boy are my arms tired!"; ) Cheers, k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: The Exorcist To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear Likewise... and I love lameness! The bigger the groan or forehead smack the more I enjoy it! A guy walks into the Dr's office and has a peace of lettuce sticking out of his ass and says he has many problems. The Dr. tells him "Sir you have a piece of lettuce sticking out of your ass" The guy replies, "I know! I know! and that's the just the tip of the Iceberg!" Happy Weekend! At 05:10 PM 2/13/2009, Karen Weil wrote: Righto, Ex-orcist! (I know, that was super-lame, but it's Friday!) Happy Weekend, k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: The Exorcist To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 2:06 PM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear Need I even say anything? LOL But for the hell of it. I'll add one outside the obvious. Ex-Lax At 07:27 AM 2/13/2009, Darren A. Peace wrote: Ec-zema. Ex-ecrable. Ex-foliate. Ex-hibitionist. Ex-pectorate. Ex-pletive. Ex-terminate. Ex-tramarital. Ex-traterrestrial. And of course Ex-crement. Darren Hungerford, UK -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of fatpotanga Sent: 13 February 2009 12:13 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 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And their sound has become dated to me.I guess he gives the cheese to please..> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:54:38 +1300> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Another Jane's Addiction/magazine> I have to say, NIN generally reminds me of Animal from the Muppets> doing an industrial remix of Bowie's 'fashion' or 'Fame'.> Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. See how it works. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_022009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If you have Led Zeppelin's 'The Ocean', turn up the> volume really loud and listen to the Bonham intro...I just cottoned onto> it and it's cracking me up. (Turn the vol back down before you do your> eardrums more damage.)> > That's all. As you were.> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_022009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bettedillinger at live.com Sat Feb 14 19:27:46 2009 From: bettedillinger at live.com (Bette Dillinger) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 19:27:46 -0500 Subject: [kj] (OT) Oh dear/More Fun In-Reply-To: <00c601c98d76$92e7ec60$b8b7c520$@com> References: <25282.62662.qm@web28611.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <00c601c98d76$92e7ec60$b8b7c520$@com> Message-ID: I LOVE going to this site because of the scary music and the incredibly serious tone. I am gonna see if they have any merchandise. I actually have a shirt that a kid in that movie "Jesus Camp" wore......the "Jesus Pieces" one. Now remember, Goth is the ultimate evil! As is Elton John! http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/goth.htm From: dpeace at bigfoot.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:01:13 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear Am I wrong to find that brilliantly funny? I particularly like the ?Ex-Slave? one, and have placed my order. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexandra TolksdorfSent: 13 February 2009 00:55To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear wow, this is some truly weird shit!!! ~Alexandra. From: folk devil To: gathering at misera.netSent: Friday, 13 February, 2009 0:14:04Subject: [kj] (OT) Oh dearhttp://www.p4cm.com/p4cm/store/launch?1 Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_022009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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As is Elton John! http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/goth.htm From: dpeace at bigfoot.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:01:13 +0000 Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear Am I wrong to find that brilliantly funny? I particularly like the ?Ex-Slave? one, and have placed my order. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexandra Tolksdorf Sent: 13 February 2009 00:55 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear wow, this is some truly weird shit!!! ~Alexandra. From: folk devil To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Friday, 13 February, 2009 0:14:04 Subject: [kj] (OT) Oh dear http://www.p4cm.com/p4cm/store/launch?1 Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_explore_022009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpeace at bigfoot.com Sat Feb 14 21:20:39 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 02:20:39 -0000 Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine - London Forum 13th February (spoliers) In-Reply-To: References: <25282.62662.qm@web28611.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <00c601c98d76$92e7ec60$b8b7c520$@com> Message-ID: <006f01c98f13$ff327fe0$fd977fa0$@com> As promised, for anyone interested (and a warning for those who aren?t, there?s little to interest you here), this is how the Magazine gig went for me. Venue was the London Forum in Kentish Town. The last time I went to a concert there it was the KJ two-nighter, when my car (parked in Reading) was broken into. This time, I was taking no chances, and found a new car park with electrified shutters, machine-gun turrets and patrolling security guards with Dobermanns lacking their larynxes. Chatham Place, in case anyone might use it. Cheaper than parking at the railway station too, slightly. Didn?t get to see more than the last song of the support act, a 4-girl group called Ipso Facto, as my friend who was coming to the gig with me was in a coach stuck on the M4 for three hours. Still, Ipso Facto were interesting, although all I knew about them was that one of their number is Hilton Valentine?s (from the Animals) daughter. Saixties-ish vibe, although it was unfortunate that the fancy dress shop only had three Louise Brooks wigs left, as the drummer stood out rather. Once they were done, and I?d amused myself at the merchandise stand (which took card payments! Wish more did) ? buying three t-shirts, a CD compiled from several Magazine bootlegs I already have and a Magazine mug (since this was Magazine, there is certainly a post-modern joke there, but a mug with ?I know the meaning of life? on one side and ?It doesn?t help me a bit? on the other will sit well alongside my Nick Cave tea towels and the space where the Grinderman knickers might have been); I baulked at the Malcolm Garrett silk-screened prints - ?50, but ?75 when signed by the artist & the band ? I?ve got enough shit on my walls already ? although I?ve seen and enjoyed ?Hunger?, I?m not meaning that literally - and I have much-treasured ?Shot By Both Sides? 7?, ?Give Me Everything? 7?, ?Real Life? & ?Secondhand Daylight? LPs all autographed in my presence already; anything Magazine related needs to be signed by McGeoch to be of interest to me), it was time to get to the front and assess the audience. I really had no idea of what type of audience to expect; the last time I saw Magazine everyone was between 15 and 20 and looked 15 to 20 years old. It turns out that by and large Magazine fans are short (bonus! no Lurch in front of me!), male, with a proclivity for trendy spectacles and manbags. There were some women there, but not many. More than at the KJ gigs, I?d say. And everyone was very polite as we barrelled to the front(ish). To be honest, everyone looked rather as though they were more used to attending garden centres and discussing the finer points of the Palestinian conflict. With manbags, which are an abhorrence and should result in spot fines and a going over with rubber hoses. The venue clearly had an eighties new wave compilation CD to hand, as we listened to it twice; still, ?Sons & Fascinations?-era Simple Minds is a particular favourite of mine, and there was Buzzcocks (although not ?Lipstick?, sadly), so it wasn?t all bad. And then ?The Thin Air? came on over the PA. Lights down. Sense of anticipation ferocious. After the whole track, a spoken Devoto monologue from behind the theatre leg, and then the curtain opened. Straight into a superb ?Light Pours Out Of Me?. Great ?Real Life?-inspired backdrop. Adamson kitted out like a Baron Samedi pimp lord, with top hat, Jason King shirt open to his Borat and Fly-era U2 shades. Noko (who, in fairness, made a decent fist of the guitar work, but no-one?s McGeoch) in what appeared to be a scarlet velour suit, with soul patches all over his face, and with a worrying propensity for pulling spooge-faces at inopportune moments. Doyle looking like an accountant behind the drums (it always amused me, in the Armoury Show, when they were thinking of ?cool? names for themselves, McGeoch was ?The Legend?, Jobson was ?The Captain?, Russell Webb was ?Universe?, and John Doyle was ... ?Doylie?). Formula, criminally undermixed throughout, was startling in a pork-pie hat. Then out skipped Devoto. I?ll make my position clear. I think Howard Devoto is a God-touched genius, and is my favourite ever lyricist (yes, better then Mark E. Smith). His book of lyrics is fantastic, and can be read as poetry ? his solo ?Rainy Season? is a deeply significant song for me, for many reasons, but one of those reasons is the perfection of the lyrics. It was therefore unfortunate that he appeared in pedal pushers, espadrilles and a pink yachting blazer. With his total baldness, I?m afraid he looked like Dr. Evil, and I outraged the fat bloke wearing a flat cap standing next to me by saying ?One million dollars? in a stupid voice to my friend at this point. Still, with his onstage freedom (I particularly liked his pretending to be a ?plane bit, although Shellac do that best, I think) and his mannered delivery, he didn?t let me down. Very theatrical, but absolutely right. The setlist? The Light Pours Out of Me The Great Beautician In The Sky / Model Worker The Honeymoon Killers Because You're Frightened You Never Knew Me Rhythm of Cruelty I Want To Burn Again This Poison A Song from Under the Floorboards Permafrost The Book Twenty Years Ago /Definitive Gaze Parade Shot By Both Sides ENCORE: Thank You Motorcade 2nd encore: I Love You Big Dummy The ?Correct Use Of Soap? and ?Magic, Murder & The Weather?-era tracks had members of Ipso Facto (whose LBDs & Louise Brooks wigs were by this stage starting to grow on me) popping up to sing backing vocals; the songs came across surprisingly well in a live environment, although it?s the first two albums, when Magazine were lumbering and surly, that inspire my love for this band. Noko royally fouled up the guitar riff during ?The Honeymoon Killers?; I don?t remember Mandelson having such trouble with it. The fact that the setlist was CUoS & MM&TW heavy was a slight problem for me; I wouldn?t have dropped anything (oh, all right, ?The Book?, of which more in a moment), but it would have been perfect to have had ?Back To Nature?, ?Give Me Everything? and ?Feed The Enemy?. Little things were a delight; Adamson reclining on a fold-up chair like the louche bastard he is, as though he were awaiting some intimate attention for ?Thank You?, Noko making a hash of the solo in ?Permafrost? (which song was absolutely the highlight for me), the mid-set eulogy for McGeoch. Even ?The Book?, the yawnsome b-side, was transformed by having Devoto read the text from behind a lectern, with the unfortunate consequence, with the accompanying dry ice, of making him look like Davros, talking like Wallace. ?Not now, Gromit? was another aside that agitated my fat friend in the cap. He, however, got elbowed in the kidneys by a flailing midget during the fast bit of ?Motorcade?, so that was satisfying. The main problem was the shitty sound. This is a band who need the keyboards up in the mix, and I couldn?t hear Formula for great swathes of the set. Things would certainly have been muddied by my being so far forward, but I?ve heard much better at the Forum. There was some irritation at the inconsistent behaviour of the audience, who generally seemed not to have been to a gig since the eighties; standing around self-consciously some of the time, then suddenly launching into that awful keep-feet-still-sway-at-the-hips-and-make-udder-milking-movements-with-the-a rms spastic dance, resulting in my being drenched by what tasted like Pimms on two occasions. Wouldn?t have missed it for the world; if I could be sure of better sound, I?d go to one of the Manchester dates. Hope anyone who goes has as good a time as I did. Photos (within the constraints of the crappy iPhone camera) are on my Faecebook page, but I don?t go to gigs to take photos, so there aren?t many. Darren Hungerford, UK -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com Sat Feb 14 21:23:33 2009 From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com (The Exorcist) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 21:23:33 -0500 Subject: [kj] (OT) Oh dear/More Fun In-Reply-To: References: <25282.62662.qm@web28611.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <00c601c98d76$92e7ec60$b8b7c520$@com> Message-ID: <0KF3009MQ5BKUF90@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> I dunno, after reading a bit I grew more of a fondness for goth. LOL I just wonder if the site will chronicle how many people died in the name of "Jesus" :) At 07:27 PM 2/14/2009, Bette Dillinger wrote: >I LOVE going to this site because of the scary >music and the incredibly serious tone. I am >gonna see if they have any merchandise. I >actually have a shirt that a kid in that movie >"Jesus Camp" wore......the "Jesus Pieces" one. > >Now remember, Goth is the ultimate evil! As is Elton John! > >http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/goth.htm > > > >---------- > >From: dpeace at bigfoot.com >To: gathering at misera.net >Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:01:13 +0000 >Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear > > >Am I wrong to find that brilliantly funny? I >particularly like the ?Ex-Slave? one, and have placed my order. > > > >Darren > >Hungerford, UK > > > >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net >[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexandra Tolksdorf >Sent: 13 February 2009 00:55 >To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) >Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear > > > >wow, this is some truly weird shit!!! > > >~Alexandra. > > > > > >From: folk devil >To: gathering at misera.net >Sent: Friday, 13 February, 2009 0:14:04 >Subject: [kj] (OT) Oh dear > >http://www.p4cm.com/p4cm/store/launch?1 > > > >---------- >Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. >Check >it out. > > > > >---------- >Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. >Check >it out. >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering at misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear/More Fun I dunno, after reading a bit I grew more of a fondness for goth. LOL I just wonder if the site will chronicle how many people died in the name of "Jesus" :) At 07:27 PM 2/14/2009, Bette Dillinger wrote: I LOVE going to this site because of the scary music and the incredibly serious tone. I am gonna see if they have any merchandise. I actually have a shirt that a kid in that movie "Jesus Camp" wore......the "Jesus Pieces" one. Now remember, Goth is the ultimate evil! As is Elton John! http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/goth.htm _____ From: dpeace at bigfoot.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:01:13 +0000 Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear Am I wrong to find that brilliantly funny? I particularly like the "Ex-Slave" one, and have placed my order. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net ] On Behalf Of Alexandra Tolksdorf Sent: 13 February 2009 00:55 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear wow, this is some truly weird shit!!! ~Alexandra. From: folk devil To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Friday, 13 February, 2009 0:14:04 Subject: [kj] (OT) Oh dear http://www.p4cm.com/p4cm/store/launch?1 _____ Windows LiveT: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. _____ Windows LiveT: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I am >gonna see if they have any merchandise. I >actually have a shirt that a kid in that movie >"Jesus Camp" wore......the "Jesus Pieces" one. > >Now remember, Goth is the ultimate evil! As is Elton John! > >http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/goth.htm > > > >---------- > >From: dpeace at bigfoot.com >To: gathering at misera.net >Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:01:13 +0000 >Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear > > >Am I wrong to find that brilliantly funny? I >particularly like the ?Ex-Slave? one, and have placed my order. > > > >Darren > >Hungerford, UK > > > >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net >[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexandra Tolksdorf >Sent: 13 February 2009 00:55 >To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) >Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear > > > >wow, this is some truly weird shit!!! > > >~Alexandra. > > > > > >From: folk devil >To: gathering at misera.net >Sent: Friday, 13 February, 2009 0:14:04 >Subject: [kj] (OT) Oh dear > >http://www.p4cm.com/p4cm/store/launch?1 > > > >---------- >Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. >Check >it out. > > > > >---------- >Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. >Check >it out. > >---------- >Windows Live?: E-mail. Chat. Share. 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URL: From gingoblin at easynet.co.uk Sun Feb 15 11:00:36 2009 From: gingoblin at easynet.co.uk (gingoblin at easynet.co.uk) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 16:00:36 +0000 Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine - London Forum 13th February (spoliers) In-Reply-To: <006f01c98f13$ff327fe0$fd977fa0$@com> References: <25282.62662.qm@web28611.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <00c601c98d76$92e7ec60$b8b7c520$@com> Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20090215155605.01d35c20@pop3.easynet.co.uk> Perhaps the sound was better depending on where you were standing... didn't seem a problem to me (though I'm a bass/guitar Magazine fan!). Gig was great... surely one of the most enjoyable intros I've ever experienced at a gig... made me think it'd be good to just hear great albums played very loud through a big PA from time to time, even without the band!!! The only slight disappointment was not enough from Secondhand Daylight... probably my fave LP of theirs (just). Some of the later numbers I'm not so keen on. But minor gripes really... still hard to believe I got to finally see Magazine! Oh and what is there to do tomorrow?? Oh yeah, go to see Magazine again! Can't wait! Dave in Edinburgh At 02:20 15/02/2009 +0000, you wrote: >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0070_01C98F13.FF327FE0" >Content-Language: en-gb > >As promised, for anyone interested (and a warning for those who aren t, >there s little to interest you here), this is how the Magazine gig went for me. > > > >Venue was the London Forum in Kentish Town. The last time I went to a >concert there it was the KJ two-nighter, when my car (parked in Reading) >was broken into. This time, I was taking no chances, and found a new car >park with electrified shutters, machine-gun turrets and patrolling >security guards with Dobermanns lacking their larynxes. Chatham Place, in >case anyone might use it. Cheaper than parking at the railway station too, >slightly. > > > >Didn t get to see more than the last song of the support act, a 4-girl >group called Ipso Facto, as my friend who was coming to the gig with me >was in a coach stuck on the M4 for three hours. Still, Ipso Facto were >interesting, although all I knew about them was that one of their number >is Hilton Valentine s (from the Animals) daughter. Saixties-ish vibe, >although it was unfortunate that the fancy dress shop only had three >Louise Brooks wigs left, as the drummer stood out rather. > > > >Once they were done, and I d amused myself at the merchandise stand (which >took card payments! Wish more did) buying three t-shirts, a CD compiled >from several Magazine bootlegs I already have and a Magazine mug (since >this was Magazine, there is certainly a post-modern joke there, but a mug >with I know the meaning of life on one side and It doesn t help me a bit >on the other will sit well alongside my Nick Cave tea towels and the space >where the Grinderman knickers might have been); I baulked at the Malcolm >Garrett silk-screened prints - ?50, but ?75 when signed by the artist & >the band I ve got enough shit on my walls already although I ve seen and >enjoyed Hunger , I m not meaning that literally - and I have >much-treasured Shot By Both Sides 7 , Give Me Everything 7 , Real Life & >Secondhand Daylight LPs all autographed in my presence already; anything >Magazine related needs to be signed by McGeoch to be of interest to me), >it was time to get to the front and assess the audience. > > > >I really had no idea of what type of audience to expect; the last time I >saw Magazine everyone was between 15 and 20 and looked 15 to 20 years old. >It turns out that by and large Magazine fans are short (bonus! no Lurch in >front of me!), male, with a proclivity for trendy spectacles and manbags. >There were some women there, but not many. More than at the KJ gigs, I d >say. And everyone was very polite as we barrelled to the front(ish). To be >honest, everyone looked rather as though they were more used to attending >garden centres and discussing the finer points of the Palestinian >conflict. With manbags, which are an abhorrence and should result in spot >fines and a going over with rubber hoses. > > > >The venue clearly had an eighties new wave compilation CD to hand, as we >listened to it twice; still, Sons & Fascinations -era Simple Minds is a >particular favourite of mine, and there was Buzzcocks (although not >Lipstick , sadly), so it wasn t all bad. > > > >And then The Thin Air came on over the PA. Lights down. Sense of >anticipation ferocious. After the whole track, a spoken Devoto monologue >from behind the theatre leg, and then the curtain opened. > > > >Straight into a superb Light Pours Out Of Me . Great Real Life -inspired >backdrop. Adamson kitted out like a Baron Samedi pimp lord, with top hat, >Jason King shirt open to his Borat and Fly-era U2 shades. Noko (who, in >fairness, made a decent fist of the guitar work, but no-one s McGeoch) in >what appeared to be a scarlet velour suit, with soul patches all over his >face, and with a worrying propensity for pulling spooge-faces at >inopportune moments. Doyle looking like an accountant behind the drums (it >always amused me, in the Armoury Show, when they were thinking of cool >names for themselves, McGeoch was The Legend , Jobson was The Captain , >Russell Webb was Universe , and John Doyle was ... Doylie ). Formula, >criminally undermixed throughout, was startling in a pork-pie hat. Then >out skipped Devoto. > > > >I ll make my position clear. I think Howard Devoto is a God-touched >genius, and is my favourite ever lyricist (yes, better then Mark E. >Smith). His book of lyrics is fantastic, and can be read as poetry his >solo Rainy Season is a deeply significant song for me, for many reasons, >but one of those reasons is the perfection of the lyrics. It was therefore >unfortunate that he appeared in pedal pushers, espadrilles and a pink >yachting blazer. With his total baldness, I m afraid he looked like Dr. >Evil, and I outraged the fat bloke wearing a flat cap standing next to me >by saying One million dollars in a stupid voice to my friend at this >point. Still, with his onstage freedom (I particularly liked his >pretending to be a plane bit, although Shellac do that best, I think) and >his mannered delivery, he didn t let me down. Very theatrical, but >absolutely right. > > > >The setlist? > > > >The Light Pours Out of Me >The Great Beautician In The Sky / Model Worker > >The Honeymoon Killers > >Because You're Frightened >You Never Knew Me >Rhythm of Cruelty > >I Want To Burn Again >This Poison >A Song from Under the Floorboards >Permafrost >The Book >Twenty Years Ago /Definitive Gaze >Parade >Shot By Both Sides >ENCORE: >Thank You >Motorcade >2nd encore: >I Love You Big Dummy > > > >The Correct Use Of Soap and Magic, Murder & The Weather -era tracks had >members of Ipso Facto (whose LBDs & Louise Brooks wigs were by this stage >starting to grow on me) popping up to sing backing vocals; the songs came >across surprisingly well in a live environment, although it s the first >two albums, when Magazine were lumbering and surly, that inspire my love >for this band. Noko royally fouled up the guitar riff during The Honeymoon >Killers ; I don t remember Mandelson having such trouble with it. > > > >The fact that the setlist was CUoS & MM&TW heavy was a slight problem for >me; I wouldn t have dropped anything (oh, all right, The Book , of which >more in a moment), but it would have been perfect to have had Back To >Nature , Give Me Everything and Feed The Enemy . > > > >Little things were a delight; Adamson reclining on a fold-up chair like >the louche bastard he is, as though he were awaiting some intimate >attention for Thank You , Noko making a hash of the solo in Permafrost >(which song was absolutely the highlight for me), the mid-set eulogy for >McGeoch. Even The Book , the yawnsome b-side, was transformed by having >Devoto read the text from behind a lectern, with the unfortunate >consequence, with the accompanying dry ice, of making him look like >Davros, talking like Wallace. Not now, Gromit was another aside that >agitated my fat friend in the cap. He, however, got elbowed in the kidneys >by a flailing midget during the fast bit of Motorcade , so that was satisfying. > > > >The main problem was the shitty sound. This is a band who need the >keyboards up in the mix, and I couldn t hear Formula for great swathes of >the set. Things would certainly have been muddied by my being so far >forward, but I ve heard much better at the Forum. There was some >irritation at the inconsistent behaviour of the audience, who generally >seemed not to have been to a gig since the eighties; standing around >self-consciously some of the time, then suddenly launching into that awful >keep-feet-still-sway-at-the-hips-and-make-udder-milking-movements-with-the-arms >spastic dance, resulting in my being drenched by what tasted like Pimms on >two occasions. > > > >Wouldn t have missed it for the world; if I could be sure of better sound, >I d go to one of the Manchester dates. > > > >Hope anyone who goes has as good a time as I did. Photos (within the >constraints of the crappy iPhone camera) are on my Faecebook page, but I >don t go to gigs to take photos, so there aren t many. > > > > > >Darren > >Hungerford, UK >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering at misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From dpeace at bigfoot.com Sun Feb 15 12:32:49 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 17:32:49 -0000 Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine - London Forum 13th February (spoliers) In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.2.20090215155605.01d35c20@pop3.easynet.co.uk> References: <25282.62662.qm@web28611.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <00c601c98d76$92e7ec60$b8b7c520$@com> <5.1.1.6.2.20090215155605.01d35c20@pop3.easynet.co.uk> Message-ID: <00c601c98f93$6cd20f00$46762d00$@com> Oh, don't get me wrong - the guitar & bass are equally crucial components. It's just that tracks like "Definitive Gaze" need the keyboards equally audible. I'm with you on "Secondhand Daylight", too. Pity I didn't know you were going - I'd have bought you a drink. Unless you were the fat chap with the flat cap, in which case I hope your kidneys get better soon. Darren Hungerford, UK -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of gingoblin at easynet.co.uk Sent: 15 February 2009 16:01 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine - London Forum 13th February (spoliers) Perhaps the sound was better depending on where you were standing... didn't seem a problem to me (though I'm a bass/guitar Magazine fan!). Gig was great... surely one of the most enjoyable intros I've ever experienced at a gig... made me think it'd be good to just hear great albums played very loud through a big PA from time to time, even without the band!!! The only slight disappointment was not enough from Secondhand Daylight... probably my fave LP of theirs (just). Some of the later numbers I'm not so keen on. But minor gripes really... still hard to believe I got to finally see Magazine! Oh and what is there to do tomorrow?? Oh yeah, go to see Magazine again! Can't wait! Dave in Edinburgh At 02:20 15/02/2009 +0000, you wrote: >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0070_01C98F13.FF327FE0" >Content-Language: en-gb > >As promised, for anyone interested (and a warning for those who aren t, >there s little to interest you here), this is how the Magazine gig went for me. > > > >Venue was the London Forum in Kentish Town. The last time I went to a >concert there it was the KJ two-nighter, when my car (parked in Reading) >was broken into. This time, I was taking no chances, and found a new car >park with electrified shutters, machine-gun turrets and patrolling >security guards with Dobermanns lacking their larynxes. Chatham Place, in >case anyone might use it. Cheaper than parking at the railway station too, >slightly. > > > >Didn t get to see more than the last song of the support act, a 4-girl >group called Ipso Facto, as my friend who was coming to the gig with me >was in a coach stuck on the M4 for three hours. Still, Ipso Facto were >interesting, although all I knew about them was that one of their number >is Hilton Valentine s (from the Animals) daughter. Saixties-ish vibe, >although it was unfortunate that the fancy dress shop only had three >Louise Brooks wigs left, as the drummer stood out rather. > > > >Once they were done, and I d amused myself at the merchandise stand (which >took card payments! Wish more did) buying three t-shirts, a CD compiled >from several Magazine bootlegs I already have and a Magazine mug (since >this was Magazine, there is certainly a post-modern joke there, but a mug >with I know the meaning of life on one side and It doesn t help me a bit >on the other will sit well alongside my Nick Cave tea towels and the space >where the Grinderman knickers might have been); I baulked at the Malcolm >Garrett silk-screened prints - ?50, but ?75 when signed by the artist & >the band I ve got enough shit on my walls already although I ve seen and >enjoyed Hunger , I m not meaning that literally - and I have >much-treasured Shot By Both Sides 7 , Give Me Everything 7 , Real Life & >Secondhand Daylight LPs all autographed in my presence already; anything >Magazine related needs to be signed by McGeoch to be of interest to me), >it was time to get to the front and assess the audience. > > > >I really had no idea of what type of audience to expect; the last time I >saw Magazine everyone was between 15 and 20 and looked 15 to 20 years old. >It turns out that by and large Magazine fans are short (bonus! no Lurch in >front of me!), male, with a proclivity for trendy spectacles and manbags. >There were some women there, but not many. More than at the KJ gigs, I d >say. And everyone was very polite as we barrelled to the front(ish). To be >honest, everyone looked rather as though they were more used to attending >garden centres and discussing the finer points of the Palestinian >conflict. With manbags, which are an abhorrence and should result in spot >fines and a going over with rubber hoses. > > > >The venue clearly had an eighties new wave compilation CD to hand, as we >listened to it twice; still, Sons & Fascinations -era Simple Minds is a >particular favourite of mine, and there was Buzzcocks (although not >Lipstick , sadly), so it wasn t all bad. > > > >And then The Thin Air came on over the PA. Lights down. Sense of >anticipation ferocious. After the whole track, a spoken Devoto monologue >from behind the theatre leg, and then the curtain opened. > > > >Straight into a superb Light Pours Out Of Me . Great Real Life -inspired >backdrop. Adamson kitted out like a Baron Samedi pimp lord, with top hat, >Jason King shirt open to his Borat and Fly-era U2 shades. Noko (who, in >fairness, made a decent fist of the guitar work, but no-one s McGeoch) in >what appeared to be a scarlet velour suit, with soul patches all over his >face, and with a worrying propensity for pulling spooge-faces at >inopportune moments. Doyle looking like an accountant behind the drums (it >always amused me, in the Armoury Show, when they were thinking of cool >names for themselves, McGeoch was The Legend , Jobson was The Captain , >Russell Webb was Universe , and John Doyle was ... Doylie ). Formula, >criminally undermixed throughout, was startling in a pork-pie hat. Then >out skipped Devoto. > > > >I ll make my position clear. I think Howard Devoto is a God-touched >genius, and is my favourite ever lyricist (yes, better then Mark E. >Smith). His book of lyrics is fantastic, and can be read as poetry his >solo Rainy Season is a deeply significant song for me, for many reasons, >but one of those reasons is the perfection of the lyrics. It was therefore >unfortunate that he appeared in pedal pushers, espadrilles and a pink >yachting blazer. With his total baldness, I m afraid he looked like Dr. >Evil, and I outraged the fat bloke wearing a flat cap standing next to me >by saying One million dollars in a stupid voice to my friend at this >point. Still, with his onstage freedom (I particularly liked his >pretending to be a plane bit, although Shellac do that best, I think) and >his mannered delivery, he didn t let me down. Very theatrical, but >absolutely right. > > > >The setlist? > > > >The Light Pours Out of Me >The Great Beautician In The Sky / Model Worker > >The Honeymoon Killers > >Because You're Frightened >You Never Knew Me >Rhythm of Cruelty > >I Want To Burn Again >This Poison >A Song from Under the Floorboards >Permafrost >The Book >Twenty Years Ago /Definitive Gaze >Parade >Shot By Both Sides >ENCORE: >Thank You >Motorcade >2nd encore: >I Love You Big Dummy > > > >The Correct Use Of Soap and Magic, Murder & The Weather -era tracks had >members of Ipso Facto (whose LBDs & Louise Brooks wigs were by this stage >starting to grow on me) popping up to sing backing vocals; the songs came >across surprisingly well in a live environment, although it s the first >two albums, when Magazine were lumbering and surly, that inspire my love >for this band. Noko royally fouled up the guitar riff during The Honeymoon >Killers ; I don t remember Mandelson having such trouble with it. > > > >The fact that the setlist was CUoS & MM&TW heavy was a slight problem for >me; I wouldn t have dropped anything (oh, all right, The Book , of which >more in a moment), but it would have been perfect to have had Back To >Nature , Give Me Everything and Feed The Enemy . > > > >Little things were a delight; Adamson reclining on a fold-up chair like >the louche bastard he is, as though he were awaiting some intimate >attention for Thank You , Noko making a hash of the solo in Permafrost >(which song was absolutely the highlight for me), the mid-set eulogy for >McGeoch. Even The Book , the yawnsome b-side, was transformed by having >Devoto read the text from behind a lectern, with the unfortunate >consequence, with the accompanying dry ice, of making him look like >Davros, talking like Wallace. Not now, Gromit was another aside that >agitated my fat friend in the cap. He, however, got elbowed in the kidneys >by a flailing midget during the fast bit of Motorcade , so that was satisfying. > > > >The main problem was the shitty sound. This is a band who need the >keyboards up in the mix, and I couldn t hear Formula for great swathes of >the set. Things would certainly have been muddied by my being so far >forward, but I ve heard much better at the Forum. There was some >irritation at the inconsistent behaviour of the audience, who generally >seemed not to have been to a gig since the eighties; standing around >self-consciously some of the time, then suddenly launching into that awful >keep-feet-still-sway-at-the-hips-and-make-udder-milking-movements-with-the- arms >spastic dance, resulting in my being drenched by what tasted like Pimms on >two occasions. > > > >Wouldn t have missed it for the world; if I could be sure of better sound, >I d go to one of the Manchester dates. > > > >Hope anyone who goes has as good a time as I did. Photos (within the >constraints of the crappy iPhone camera) are on my Faecebook page, but I >don t go to gigs to take photos, so there aren t many. > > > > > >Darren > >Hungerford, UK >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering at misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk Sun Feb 15 12:39:24 2009 From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk (jo) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 17:39:24 -0000 Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine - London Forum 13th February (spoliers) References: <25282.62662.qm@web28611.mail.ukl.yahoo.com><00c601c98d76$92e7ec60$b8b7c520$@com> <006f01c98f13$ff327fe0$fd977fa0$@com> Message-ID: <00a101c98f94$5769c0d0$0100000a@jo> Good review although I find it a bit unnerving that the bloke next to me in crowd might go home and jot down some of my finer (or not so) moments in such graphic detail - makes me want to just stand there and tap my foot -))) There's a pic of Howard Devoto from last night in Manchester on Myspace. Nothing mega, just taken on a daft little cam but at least it's not blurred and you can tell who it is: http://www.myspace.com/ravenscap -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpeace at bigfoot.com Sun Feb 15 13:15:42 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 18:15:42 -0000 Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine - London Forum 13th February (spoliers) In-Reply-To: <00a101c98f94$5769c0d0$0100000a@jo> References: <25282.62662.qm@web28611.mail.ukl.yahoo.com><00c601c98d76$92e7ec60$b8b7c520$@com> <006f01c98f13$ff327fe0$fd977fa0$@com> <00a101c98f94$5769c0d0$0100000a@jo> Message-ID: <00ca01c98f99$6a0b1810$3e214830$@com> Heh! It's what I was thinking, and it added a bit of colour, I thought. Got talking to him afterwards, actually, and he was OK, if two-thirds cut. I'll keep his name to myself, though. And if anyone wants to avoid being the subject of this sort of thing, then don't act like a cretin next to the skinny 6-foot bloke with glasses. Darren Hungerford, UK From: jo [mailto:jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk] Sent: 15 February 2009 17:39 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine - London Forum 13th February (spoliers) Good review although I find it a bit unnerving that the bloke next to me in crowd might go home and jot down some of my finer (or not so) moments in such graphic detail - makes me want to just stand there and tap my foot -))) There's a pic of Howard Devoto from last night in Manchester on Myspace. Nothing mega, just taken on a daft little cam but at least it's not blurred and you can tell who it is: http://www.myspace.com/ravenscap -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk Sun Feb 15 13:30:39 2009 From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk (jo) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 18:30:39 -0000 Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine - London Forum 13th February (spoliers) References: <25282.62662.qm@web28611.mail.ukl.yahoo.com><00c601c98d76$92e7ec60$b8b7c520$@com><006f01c98f13$ff327fe0$fd977fa0$@com><00a101c98f94$5769c0d0$0100000a@jo> <00ca01c98f99$6a0b1810$3e214830$@com> Message-ID: <00e701c98f9b$80bd6b10$0100000a@jo> But we can never know exactly who will expose us as that's most of the population up front at gigs? If you're short you've got to, at least, spring up and down like Zebedee shouting 'fire' (or the lyrics in this scenario) to get a glimpse and snatch a breath of fresh air - you can't do that without looking ridiculous. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it. And if anyone wants to avoid being the subject of this sort of thing, then don't act like a cretin next to the skinny 6-foot bloke with glasses. Darren Hungerford, UK From: jo [mailto:jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk] Sent: 15 February 2009 17:39 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine - London Forum 13th February (spoliers) Good review although I find it a bit unnerving that the bloke next to me in crowd might go home and jot down some of my finer (or not so) moments in such graphic detail - makes me want to just stand there and tap my foot -))) There's a pic of Howard Devoto from last night in Manchester on Myspace. Nothing mega, just taken on a daft little cam but at least it's not blurred and you can tell who it is: http://www.myspace.com/ravenscap ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpeace at bigfoot.com Sun Feb 15 13:52:21 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 18:52:21 -0000 Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine - London Forum 13th February (spoliers) In-Reply-To: <00e701c98f9b$80bd6b10$0100000a@jo> References: <25282.62662.qm@web28611.mail.ukl.yahoo.com><00c601c98d76$92e7ec60$b8b7c520$@com><006f01c98f13$ff327fe0$fd977fa0$@com><00a101c98f94$5769c0d0$0100000a@jo> <00ca01c98f99$6a0b1810$3e214830$@com> <00e701c98f9b$80bd6b10$0100000a@jo> Message-ID: <00d501c98f9e$8916d730$9b448590$@com> Take a stepladder. J Darren Hungerford, UK From: jo [mailto:jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk] Sent: 15 February 2009 18:31 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine - London Forum 13th February (spoliers) But we can never know exactly who will expose us as that's most of the population up front at gigs? If you're short you've got to, at least, spring up and down like Zebedee shouting 'fire' (or the lyrics in this scenario) to get a glimpse and snatch a breath of fresh air - you can't do that without looking ridiculous. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it. And if anyone wants to avoid being the subject of this sort of thing, then don't act like a cretin next to the skinny 6-foot bloke with glasses. Darren Hungerford, UK From: jo [mailto:jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk] Sent: 15 February 2009 17:39 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine - London Forum 13th February (spoliers) Good review although I find it a bit unnerving that the bloke next to me in crowd might go home and jot down some of my finer (or not so) moments in such graphic detail - makes me want to just stand there and tap my foot -))) There's a pic of Howard Devoto from last night in Manchester on Myspace. Nothing mega, just taken on a daft little cam but at least it's not blurred and you can tell who it is: http://www.myspace.com/ravenscap _____ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From pmdavies at gmail.com Sun Feb 15 14:22:31 2009 From: pmdavies at gmail.com (iPat) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 19:22:31 +0000 Subject: [kj] ot: Seasick steve on bbc4 tonight Message-ID: <1646350c0902151122v17155995w3c92f19afbd0c2e5@mail.gmail.com> : ) From planetary at socal.rr.com Sun Feb 15 14:26:53 2009 From: planetary at socal.rr.com (The Mighty TB) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 11:26:53 -0800 Subject: [kj] Live At The Forum 2008 - re-packaged & re-released by PHD In-Reply-To: References: <8A7F3EA198634DC394B0B94220695F34@MarinaPC><7B5C3CBD8F76429D8B21A94315B842C7@HOMEHACKETT> Message-ID: "melinda grant" wrote: is it really worth buying these if you already have the last batch though? milindafgrant From: thepunisher at blueyonder.co.ukTo: gathering at misera. good price compared to the first batch... * http://www.plastichead.com/catalogue.asp?ex=fitem&verb=F&target=EWO039BOX * Most importantly, are these cd-rs like the original InstantLive recordings were or are they actual factory pressed silver cds. T.B. From folk.devil at hotmail.com Sun Feb 15 14:46:42 2009 From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 11:46:42 -0800 Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine - London Forum 13th February (spoliers) In-Reply-To: <006f01c98f13$ff327fe0$fd977fa0$@com> References: <25282.62662.qm@web28611.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <00c601c98d76$92e7ec60$b8b7c520$@com> <006f01c98f13$ff327fe0$fd977fa0$@com> Message-ID: Cheers, Darren. It's a shame they won't be over to play in the States :( There used to be another band in the 80s called Ipso Facto.. https://discogs.com/Ipso-Facto-Life-Is-A-Cabaret-Is-It/release/1073020 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 02:20:39 +0000 Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine - London Forum 13th February (spoliers) Didn?t get to see more than the last song of the support act, a 4-girl group called Ipso Facto, as my friend who was coming to the gig with me was in a coach stuck on the M4 for three hours. Still, Ipso Facto were interesting, although all I knew about them was that one of their number is Hilton Valentine?s (from the Animals) daughter. Saixties-ish vibe, although it was unfortunate that the fancy dress shop only had three Louise Brooks wigs left, as the drummer stood out rather. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_022009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com Sun Feb 15 16:39:56 2009 From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 21:39:56 +0000 Subject: [kj] Live At The Forum 2008 - re-packaged & re-released by PHD In-Reply-To: References: <8A7F3EA198634DC394B0B94220695F34@MarinaPC><7B5C3CBD8F76429D8B21A94315B842C7@HOMEHACKETT> Message-ID: so its a good price compaired to the first batch,i have the first batch already,so i repeat--is it worth buying this recent edition unless your a very serious collector if you already have the first edition,which was only about 5 months ago thatit came out;)? it souds like a money spinner to me mighty.t. milindafgrant> From: planetary at socal.rr.com> To: gathering at misera.net> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 11:26:53 -0800> Subject: Re: [kj] Live At The Forum 2008 - re-packaged & re-released by PHD> > "melinda grant" wrote:> > is it really worth buying these if you already have the last batch though?> > milindafgrant> > From: thepunisher at blueyonder.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.> > good price compared to the first batch...> > * http://www.plastichead.com/catalogue.asp?ex=fitem&verb=F&target=EWO039BOX > *> > Most importantly, are these cd-rs like the original InstantLive recordings > were or are they actual factory pressed silver cds.> > T.B. > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Twice the fun?Share photos while you chat with Windows Live Messenger. 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Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of melinda grant Sent: 15 February 2009 21:40 To: thegathering mailing list Subject: Re: [kj] Live At The Forum 2008 - re-packaged & re-released by PHD so its a good price compaired to the first batch,i have the first batch already,so i repeat--is it worth buying this recent edition unless your a very serious collector if you already have the first edition,which was only about 5 months ago thatit came out;)? it souds like a money spinner to me mighty.t. milindafgrant > From: planetary at socal.rr.com > To: gathering at misera.net > Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 11:26:53 -0800 > Subject: Re: [kj] Live At The Forum 2008 - re-packaged & re-released by PHD > > "melinda grant" wrote: > > is it really worth buying these if you already have the last batch though? > > milindafgrant > > From: thepunisher at blueyonder.co.ukTo: gathering at misera. > > good price compared to the first batch... > > * http://www.plastichead.com/catalogue.asp?ex=fitem&verb=F&target=EWO039BOX > * > > Most importantly, are these cd-rs like the original InstantLive recordings > were or are they actual factory pressed silver cds. > > T.B. > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos - Free Find out more! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk Mon Feb 16 05:33:04 2009 From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk (Janean Lancaster) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 10:33:04 -0000 Subject: [kj] (OT) Oh dear/More Fun References: <25282.62662.qm@web28611.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <00c601c98d76$92e7ec60$b8b7c520$@com> Message-ID: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DB6B@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> I'll have to get myself an Ex-Goth t-shirt. ________________________________ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Bette Dillinger Sent: 15 February 2009 00:28 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear/More Fun I LOVE going to this site because of the scary music and the incredibly serious tone. I am gonna see if they have any merchandise. I actually have a shirt that a kid in that movie "Jesus Camp" wore......the "Jesus Pieces" one. Now remember, Goth is the ultimate evil! As is Elton John! http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/goth.htm ________________________________ From: dpeace at bigfoot.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:01:13 +0000 Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear Am I wrong to find that brilliantly funny? I particularly like the "Ex-Slave" one, and have placed my order. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexandra Tolksdorf Sent: 13 February 2009 00:55 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear wow, this is some truly weird shit!!! ~Alexandra. ________________________________ From: folk devil To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Friday, 13 February, 2009 0:14:04 Subject: [kj] (OT) Oh dear http://www.p4cm.com/p4cm/store/launch?1 ________________________________ Windows Live(tm): Keep your life in sync. Check it out. ________________________________ Windows Live(tm): Keep your life in sync. 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Transform Lives. www.think-differently.org.ukDate: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 10:33:04 +0000From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.ukTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear/More Fun I?ll have to get myself an Ex-Goth t-shirt. From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Bette Dillinger Sent: 15 February 2009 00:28 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear/More Fun I LOVE going to this site because of the scary music and the incredibly serious tone. I am gonna see if they have any merchandise. I actually have a shirt that a kid in that movie "Jesus Camp" wore......the "Jesus Pieces" one. Now remember, Goth is the ultimate evil! As is Elton John! http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/goth.htm From: dpeace at bigfoot.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:01:13 +0000 Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear Am I wrong to find that brilliantly funny? I particularly like the ?Ex-Slave? one, and have placed my order. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexandra Tolksdorf Sent: 13 February 2009 00:55 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear wow, this is some truly weird shit!!! ~Alexandra. From: folk devil To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Friday, 13 February, 2009 0:14:04 Subject: [kj] (OT) Oh dear http://www.p4cm.com/p4cm/store/launch?1 Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Bette Dillinger Sent: 15 February 2009 00:28 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear/More Fun I LOVE going to this site because of the scary music and the incredibly serious tone. I am gonna see if they have any merchandise. I actually have a shirt that a kid in that movie "Jesus Camp" wore......the "Jesus Pieces" one. Now remember, Goth is the ultimate evil! As is Elton John! http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/goth.htm From: dpeace at bigfoot.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:01:13 +0000 Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear Am I wrong to find that brilliantly funny? I particularly like the ?Ex-Slave? one, and have placed my order. 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Transform Lives. www.think-differently.org.ukDate: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 10:33:04 +0000From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.ukTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear/More Fun I?ll have to get myself an Ex-Goth t-shirt. From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Bette Dillinger Sent: 15 February 2009 00:28 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear/More Fun I LOVE going to this site because of the scary music and the incredibly serious tone. I am gonna see if they have any merchandise. I actually have a shirt that a kid in that movie "Jesus Camp" wore......the "Jesus Pieces" one. Now remember, Goth is the ultimate evil! As is Elton John! http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/goth.htm From: dpeace at bigfoot.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:01:13 +0000 Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear Am I wrong to find that brilliantly funny? I particularly like the ?Ex-Slave? one, and have placed my order. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexandra Tolksdorf Sent: 13 February 2009 00:55 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear wow, this is some truly weird shit!!! ~Alexandra. From: folk devil To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Friday, 13 February, 2009 0:14:04 Subject: [kj] (OT) Oh dear http://www.p4cm.com/p4cm/store/launch?1 Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wessidetempest at hotmail.com Mon Feb 16 10:01:42 2009 From: wessidetempest at hotmail.com (Christof hamille) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 10:01:42 -0500 Subject: [kj] Live At The Forum 2008 - re-packaged & re-released by PHD In-Reply-To: <8A7F3EA198634DC394B0B94220695F34@MarinaPC> References: <8A7F3EA198634DC394B0B94220695F34@MarinaPC> Message-ID: why? There are still copies available from the original pressing. The cover is cool....but not very relevant to anything. Is this Plastichead trying to Kiss-out Killing Joke? Maybe there will be a line of Killing Joke cigars and wine. And their STELLAR boxset of Extremities makes me want to run out and buy this (tongue firmly in cheek). Chris From: antoni at clara.net To: gathering at misera.net Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 23:33:24 +0000 Subject: [kj] Live At The Forum 2008 - re-packaged & re-released by PHD * http://www.plastichead.com/catalogue.asp?ex=fitem&verb=F&target=EWO039BOX * _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_howitworks_022009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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And their STELLAR boxset of Extremities makes me want to run out and buy this (tongue firmly in cheek).Chris From: antoni at clara.netTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 23:33:24 +0000Subject: [kj] Live At The Forum 2008 - re-packaged & re-released by PHD * http://www.plastichead.com/catalogue.asp?ex=fitem&verb=F&target=EWO039BOX * Windows Live?: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. See how it works. _________________________________________________________________ Check out the new and improved services from Windows Live. Learn more! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/132630768/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 65snoopy at gmail.com Mon Feb 16 10:55:02 2009 From: 65snoopy at gmail.com (Neil Perry) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 16:55:02 +0100 Subject: [kj] Live At The Forum 2008 - re-packaged & re-released by PH In-Reply-To: References: <8A7F3EA198634DC394B0B94220695F34@MarinaPC> Message-ID: "Maybe there will be a line of Killing Joke cigars and wine" I would rather buy that than this. N 2009/2/16 Christof hamille > why? > > There are still copies available from the original pressing. The cover is > cool....but not very relevant to anything. > Is this Plastichead trying to Kiss-out Killing Joke? Maybe there will be a > line of Killing Joke cigars and wine. And their STELLAR boxset of > Extremities makes me want to run out and buy this (tongue firmly in cheek). > > Chris > > ------------------------------ > From: antoni at clara.net > To: gathering at misera.net > Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 23:33:24 +0000 > Subject: [kj] Live At The Forum 2008 - re-packaged & re-released by PHD > > * > http://www.plastichead.com/catalogue.asp?ex=fitem&verb=F&target=EWO039BOX* > > ------------------------------ > Windows Live?: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. See how it > works. > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Chateau Geordie Chardonnay "A complex, rich, oakey drop, surprisingly smooth, especially the second time round. Purchased in 4 litre jester-themed jugs, a perfect pre-gig tipple. Delivery time...March equinox." No US orders, payment in gold or barter. > "Maybe there will be a line of Killing Joke cigars and wine" > > I would rather buy that than this. > > N > > 2009/2/16 Christof hamille > >> why? >> >> There are still copies available from the original pressing. The cover >> is >> cool....but not very relevant to anything. >> Is this Plastichead trying to Kiss-out Killing Joke? Maybe there will >> be a >> line of Killing Joke cigars and wine. And their STELLAR boxset of >> Extremities makes me want to run out and buy this (tongue firmly in >> cheek). >> >> Chris >> >> ------------------------------ >> From: antoni at clara.net >> To: gathering at misera.net >> Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 23:33:24 +0000 >> Subject: [kj] Live At The Forum 2008 - re-packaged & re-released by PHD >> >> * >> http://www.plastichead.com/catalogue.asp?ex=fitem&verb=F&target=EWO039BOX* >> >> ------------------------------ >> Windows Live?: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. See how it >> works. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From stephen.l at live.com Mon Feb 16 19:23:53 2009 From: stephen.l at live.com (Stephen Lawrence) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 00:23:53 +0000 Subject: [kj] (OT) Oh dear/More Fun In-Reply-To: References: <25282.62662.qm@web28611.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <00c601c98d76$92e7ec60$b8b7c520$@com> <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DB6B@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> Message-ID: checked your site paul ....liked the tunes ...reminded me of momus...well done From: paulwady at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 11:59:43 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear/More Fun I think I'm getting a bit obsessive about this... My last word, an exert from the pious blog: I'm so excited. As a former... Submitted by Former M'er (not verified) on Tue, 02/03/2009 - 03:30. I'm so excited. As a former masturbator I plan to get every color. I want everyone to know power of Jesus is stronger than the devil's urge to purge. Keep Smiling... http://www.myspace.com/themodelaircraftmuseum http://www.myspace.com/paulwadyexperience Autism also affects adults. Most are isolated and ignored Think. Act. Transform Lives. www.think-differently.org.uk Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 10:33:04 +0000From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.ukTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear/More Fun I?ll have to get myself an Ex-Goth t-shirt. From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Bette DillingerSent: 15 February 2009 00:28To: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear/More Fun I LOVE going to this site because of the scary music and the incredibly serious tone. I am gonna see if they have any merchandise. I actually have a shirt that a kid in that movie "Jesus Camp" wore......the "Jesus Pieces" one. Now remember, Goth is the ultimate evil! As is Elton John! http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/goth.htm From: dpeace at bigfoot.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:01:13 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear Am I wrong to find that brilliantly funny? I particularly like the ?Ex-Slave? one, and have placed my order. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexandra TolksdorfSent: 13 February 2009 00:55To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear wow, this is some truly weird shit!!! ~Alexandra. From: folk devil To: gathering at misera.netSent: Friday, 13 February, 2009 0:14:04Subject: [kj] (OT) Oh dearhttp://www.p4cm.com/p4cm/store/launch?1 Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. 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'Warning Has Broken' is available as a digital download from iTunes Store along with a special industrial remix of 'Small Are We' (many thanks to CliffMonk for that!) if interested follow this link: http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/vi ewAlbum?id=304490715&s=143444 Or to preview or pre order the album from amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001OQW22I/ref=dm_sp_alb Thanks and BIG UP to you all! http://www.myspace.com/tribazik http://www.tribazik.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fatpotanga at gmail.com Tue Feb 17 03:59:19 2009 From: fatpotanga at gmail.com (fatpotanga) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 08:59:19 +0000 Subject: [kj] (OT) Oh dear/More Fun In-Reply-To: References: <25282.62662.qm@web28611.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <00c601c98d76$92e7ec60$b8b7c520$@com> <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DB6B@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> Message-ID: <0F8FBDE8-4C8B-4C53-8107-846CBB22AF9A@gmail.com> > checked your site paul ....liked the tunes ...reminded me of > momus...well done Y'know, I've have "a complete history of sexual jealousy parts 17 - 24" going round my head for days & keep meaning to try & find it somewhere. Will have to check out Paul's stuff... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulwady at hotmail.com Tue Feb 17 06:14:32 2009 From: paulwady at hotmail.com (Paul Wady) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:14:32 +0000 Subject: [kj] (OT) Oh dear/More Fun In-Reply-To: References: <25282.62662.qm@web28611.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <00c601c98d76$92e7ec60$b8b7c520$@com> <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DB6B@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> Message-ID: Thank you very much. Thanks also for the lead to Momus! Keep Smiling... http://www.myspace.com/themodelaircraftmuseum http://www.myspace.com/paulwadyexperience Autism also affects adults. Most are isolated and ignored Think. Act. Transform Lives. www.think-differently.org.ukFrom: stephen.l at live.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 00:23:53 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear/More Fun checked your site paul ....liked the tunes ...reminded me of momus...well done From: paulwady at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 11:59:43 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear/More Fun I think I'm getting a bit obsessive about this... My last word, an exert from the pious blog: I'm so excited. As a former... Submitted by Former M'er (not verified) on Tue, 02/03/2009 - 03:30. I'm so excited. As a former masturbator I plan to get every color. I want everyone to know power of Jesus is stronger than the devil's urge to purge. Keep Smiling... http://www.myspace.com/themodelaircraftmuseum http://www.myspace.com/paulwadyexperience Autism also affects adults. Most are isolated and ignored Think. Act. Transform Lives. www.think-differently.org.uk Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 10:33:04 +0000From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.ukTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear/More Fun I?ll have to get myself an Ex-Goth t-shirt. From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Bette DillingerSent: 15 February 2009 00:28To: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear/More Fun I LOVE going to this site because of the scary music and the incredibly serious tone. I am gonna see if they have any merchandise. I actually have a shirt that a kid in that movie "Jesus Camp" wore......the "Jesus Pieces" one. Now remember, Goth is the ultimate evil! As is Elton John! http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/goth.htm From: dpeace at bigfoot.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:01:13 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear Am I wrong to find that brilliantly funny? I particularly like the ?Ex-Slave? one, and have placed my order. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexandra TolksdorfSent: 13 February 2009 00:55To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear wow, this is some truly weird shit!!! ~Alexandra. From: folk devil To: gathering at misera.netSent: Friday, 13 February, 2009 0:14:04Subject: [kj] (OT) Oh dearhttp://www.p4cm.com/p4cm/store/launch?1 Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. Check it out.Beyond Hotmail ? see what else you can do with Windows Live Find out more! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Transform Lives. www.think-differently.org.ukFrom: fluwdot at earthlink.netTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 10:21:48 -0600Subject: [kj] ot - lux RIP great old pic of lux in my home town denver http://www.flickr.com/photos/35324209 at N08/3284335931/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Hallelujiah.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 222141 bytes Desc: not available Url : From karen.weil at sddt.com Tue Feb 17 14:08:47 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:08:47 -0800 Subject: [kj] OT: all aboard the MEAT SHIP! References: Message-ID: I think anyone who ate that would die afterwards! ; ) k..w ----- Original Message ----- From: Concrete Cookie To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 9:37 AM Subject: [kj] OT: all aboard the MEAT SHIP! http://www.supersizedmeals.com/food/article.php/20080212-The_Meat_Ship only 17,000 calories! ----------------------------------------------------------- http://www.myspace.com/kinga ----------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Windows Live?: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. Check it out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From planetary at socal.rr.com Tue Feb 17 14:18:04 2009 From: planetary at socal.rr.com (The Mighty TB) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:18:04 -0800 Subject: [kj] (OT) Jane's Addiction at Echoplex in LA Last Night In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <07C24E45F260487D9E4A154023DED4B5@Bell2007PC> Jane's Addiction, reunited with original bass player Eric Avery has been doing a few low key warm-up bar and club shows in LA the past few months before they go out on tour with Nine Inch Nails in late Spring. I caught last night's show at the Echoplex club which was their third appearance together since all four members began working together again. It turned out to be an excellent if short show, mostly better than the tiny El Cid bar show #2 which I caught last December. Only things I think El Cid was marginally better was being a tiny club, much more intense energy from the crowd that show. I think Perry sounded better there as well. It had been raining really hard much of the day in Southern California and I was really on the fence about going or not right up to about 6pm. I went for it and got to the Echoplex (in Echo Park) around 8:15 and a huge line of 200 - 300 people was winding along the building and it quickly because obvious some people didn't have or even know about the RSVP thing. Light rain had just stopped and it was cool but at least dry. The line started moving as they left small groups of about 10 - 15 people in at a time to get their ID checked for a wristband, then get their ID checked against a list at the door from the website registration rsvps. Saw a couple people turned away in front of me but later saw them inside so its possible they had enough room for people who basically walked up to see the show after the majority of RSVP'ers got in. Considering my own feelings this method of getting people in the show could have turned into a real mess, it seems like it turned out to be well run with few problems. My first time at Echoplex. Kind of a weird room, the mixing desk kinda bisects the club in half so if your in the back, you gotta stand on some boxes to get a decent view. Pretty laid back, almost too mellow of a crowd especially for the opening band "Dot," which was kind of a more ambient, dissonant noise version of Secret Machines. Band shows some promise, but the singer was hardly audible, partly because he rarely projected himself but moreso because the vocals were mixed way too far down (same for Perry during Jane's set). They got a decent response from the crowd, more respect than actual adoration. Frankly, I thought they were boring. There was a long wait, made somewhat manageable by the selections whoever was DJ'ing played a good amount of Killing Joke ("Change"), Bauhaus, Cramps ("New Kind Of Kick" got a huge response), Bowie and a few other favs on the PA. About 11:15, Jane's strolled on the stage and ground into Up The Beach. I think it was played half a step down and a bit slower. Eric had more room to prowl and stomp tonight so he'd either be doing his tribal stomp to songs like Mountain Song or Ocean Size or locked into his zone often staring up at the ceiling playing Pigs in Zen. Tonight, Dave was more on the mark most of the show that the 2nd show, Perkins was simply 100% a precision human piledriver. The man is simply an incredible drummer. Perry unfortunately I have to say was the weak link. Not a lot of power in his voice, didn't really make a lot of use of his little echo toolbox and took a lot longer than the rest of the band to loosen up as the set progressed. I will say when they got to Been Caught Stealing, he was up with the rest of the band and loosened up enough to bullshit and introduce most of the remaining songs. I do think in a lot of ways this reunion, especially how Perry carries himself these days reminds me of the recent David Lee Roth/Van Halen reunion in the way both frontmen have dropped the more manic, physical aspect of their stage persona due to age and are more like Vegas car dealers doing their shtick for the rubes. At times, Perry was genuinely funny but when he used forced, awkward analogies to introduce each of the last few songs, it got hackneyed. Most of the songs from a performance standpoint sounded excellent. Mountain Song is played by Dave a bit differently now, a bit more RAWK! like someone like Billy Duffy would play the tune. The band was very tight with one major exception. The only song I thought kinda missed the mark was the one I was most excited to hear, Ted, which lacked an "edge" it's had in the past and never really got out of third gear and came close to falling apart the last couple minutes as the band kind of careened a bit out of time with each other. But I'll tell you what, "Stop" was fucking perfect. Clearly the best performed song of the set and got great audience participation. "Had a Dad" and "Ocean Size" ended the 2 song encore and the short barely hour long set was done. >From a crowd standpoint, the asshole factor was low but there were a few lobcocks who'd careen around like big, sweaty, smelly dreidels. One grinning drunk slob who looked like Seth Rogan got hoisted up for some crowd surfing and got maybe 5 feet before being dumped on the ground like a sack of shit. He later wound up getting on the stage on Erics side and then flopped off the stage like a beached whale. All n' all though, a great night even if it was too short and I *really* wanted to hear "Three Days." Setlist: Up The Beach Trip Away (on the setlist but not played) Whores 1% Ain't No Right Mountain Song Been Caught Stealing Ted Just Admit It. Stop! (encore) Had a Dad Ocean Size T.B. From karen.weil at sddt.com Tue Feb 17 14:22:49 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:22:49 -0800 Subject: [kj] (OT) Oh dear/More Fun References: <25282.62662.qm@web28611.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <00c601c98d76$92e7ec60$b8b7c520$@com> <0KF3009MQ5BKUF90@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> <008c01c98f15$dc0610c0$94123240$@com> Message-ID: <1AF390BB914342CF8C47DA8815E52DEE@edweil> I've seen the film; it's pretty disturbing. Not a favorite! ; ) k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren A. Peace To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear/More Fun This is the most chilling film in the area of "Jesus Camp" I have seen: http://www.amazon.com/Hell-House-Aria-Adloo/dp/B000092T6A/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1234665086&sr=1-2 Watching the young girls' good-natured rivalry over landing the Abortion Girl role is appalling. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of The Exorcist Sent: 15 February 2009 02:24 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear/More Fun I dunno, after reading a bit I grew more of a fondness for goth. LOL I just wonder if the site will chronicle how many people died in the name of "Jesus" :) At 07:27 PM 2/14/2009, Bette Dillinger wrote: I LOVE going to this site because of the scary music and the incredibly serious tone. I am gonna see if they have any merchandise. I actually have a shirt that a kid in that movie "Jesus Camp" wore......the "Jesus Pieces" one. Now remember, Goth is the ultimate evil! As is Elton John! http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/goth.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: dpeace at bigfoot.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:01:13 +0000 Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear Am I wrong to find that brilliantly funny? I particularly like the "Ex-Slave" one, and have placed my order. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexandra Tolksdorf Sent: 13 February 2009 00:55 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear wow, this is some truly weird shit!!! ~Alexandra. From: folk devil To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Friday, 13 February, 2009 0:14:04 Subject: [kj] (OT) Oh dear http://www.p4cm.com/p4cm/store/launch?1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Windows LiveT: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Windows LiveT: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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As is Elton John! http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/goth.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: dpeace at bigfoot.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:01:13 +0000 Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Oh dear Am I wrong to find that brilliantly funny? I particularly like the ?Ex-Slave? one, and have placed my order. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexandra Tolksdorf Sent: 13 February 2009 00:55 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 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URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Tue Feb 17 14:31:47 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:31:47 -0800 Subject: [kj] (OT) NIN References: <1646350c0902110602r58ba2471ob9f4a0c4191181d0@mail.gmail.com><00ee01c98cab$8a2b0060$9e810120$@com><10D19D34B7DD41C6B4BF2988EB9725B7@edweil> <3226807D860047B4A9BD03993962D219@Soundgardener> <16420.203.210.68.145.1234493678.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <6A05A5A2B1D24910853DB777F57DD728@edweil> Maybe took the drug that is part of the "Year Zero" story! ; ) k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bette Dillinger To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) NIN Have to agree. And those videos Reznor posts on YouLose asking for input from viewers are sad. He looks like he has taken 15 Valium. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: folk.devil at hotmail.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 09:22:27 -0800 Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) NIN That's a pretty apt description lol! I never really got past 'Broken', although I like the album and 'Pretty hate machine', but NIN have always sounded a bit 'thin' to me, compared to their contemporaries, e.g. ministry. And their sound has become dated to me. I guess he gives the cheese to please.. > Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:54:38 +1300 > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Another Jane's Addiction/magazine > I have to say, NIN generally reminds me of Animal from the Muppets > doing an industrial remix of Bowie's 'fashion' or 'Fame'. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. See how it works. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Tue Feb 17 14:41:12 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:41:12 -0800 Subject: [kj] Live At The Forum 2008 - re-packaged & re-released by PH References: <8A7F3EA198634DC394B0B94220695F34@MarinaPC> <2315.124.197.4.147.1234824581.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <0E6B4C6C3954414CB3DFAD616FEC79C3@edweil> Love the name, and the ad copy! Ever think of going in advertising? ; ) k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brendan" To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 2:49 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Live At The Forum 2008 - re-packaged & re-released by PH Killing Smoke Cigars. "Wrap your lips around a banana-sized brown cylindrical representation of the paradox that is Killing Joke. A band that eschews modern excess but...actually...well, doesn't. Perfect for those long boring private jet flights between billionaire sponsored gigs. Chateau Geordie Chardonnay "A complex, rich, oakey drop, surprisingly smooth, especially the second time round. Purchased in 4 litre jester-themed jugs, a perfect pre-gig tipple. Delivery time...March equinox." No US orders, payment in gold or barter. > "Maybe there will be a line of Killing Joke cigars and wine" > > I would rather buy that than this. > > N > > 2009/2/16 Christof hamille > >> why? >> >> There are still copies available from the original pressing. The cover >> is >> cool....but not very relevant to anything. >> Is this Plastichead trying to Kiss-out Killing Joke? Maybe there will >> be a >> line of Killing Joke cigars and wine. And their STELLAR boxset of >> Extremities makes me want to run out and buy this (tongue firmly in >> cheek). >> >> Chris >> >> ------------------------------ >> From: antoni at clara.net >> To: gathering at misera.net >> Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 23:33:24 +0000 >> Subject: [kj] Live At The Forum 2008 - re-packaged & re-released by PHD >> >> * >> http://www.plastichead.com/catalogue.asp?ex=fitem&verb=F&target=EWO039BOX* >> >> ------------------------------ >> Windows LiveT: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. See how it >> works. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From karen.weil at sddt.com Tue Feb 17 14:42:45 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:42:45 -0800 Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine References: <1646350c0902110602r58ba2471ob9f4a0c4191181d0@mail.gmail.com><00ee01c98cab$8a2b0060$9e810120$@com><10D19D34B7DD41C6B4BF2988EB9725B7@edweil> Message-ID: Hi, Milinda: Haven't seen "Bitter Moon" but generally like watching Grant -- he's a fine comedic actor. But I'll have to check out Polanski's film from the early 90s! Cheers, k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: melinda grant To: thegathering mailing list Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine hugh is a distant relative ;) check out bitter moon you may find it intreegin,infact any roman polaski film is worth a view,as darren said,bitter moon is underatted but very good- -i found the film has a lybarith of swits and turns,its a bit sick in parts just shows you what humans can get up to when love-obsession turns to obsessive))))) re is so tacken by it,he wont give it backevenge and hugh is a bit of a twat in it,his role had me in stitches of laughter ;D))) had the dvd,lent it to a mate,he was so taken by it,i carnt get it back lol milindafgrant ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: karen.weil at sddt.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 10:16:28 -0800 Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine Indeed, a bloody great comedy! If Hugh's a relative, please tell him "hello" for me! Cheers, k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: melinda grant To: thegathering mailing list Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine thats a good movie--i like hugh grant movie she may be a distant relative of mine ;D cheers-milindafgrant ;P ps ever seen -bitter moon? hugh grant does a very amusing role in that! > From: karen.weil at sddt.com > To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; gathering at misera.net > Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:52:51 -0800 > Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine > > Hey -- I just watched "Four Weddings & A Funeral!" > F*** a doodle do! ; ) > > Cheers, > > k.w. > another "frightful" American > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Darren A. Peace" > To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" > > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 4:47 PM > Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine > > > > Oh fuck. Fuckitty fuck (if one can say that without sounding like Hugh > > bloody Grant). > > > > Magazine did a "secret" warm-up gig in Oxford. LAST NIGHT! And I missed > > it. > > > > Bah. > > > > Darren > > Hungerford, UK > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering at misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Beyond Hotmail - see what else you can do with Windows Live Find out more! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Windows Live Hotmail just got better. 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Peace To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine KW : But isn't Andie MacDowell just so punchable in FWAAF? Hateful. MG : "Bitter Moon" is an underrated and underseen film, imo. Even though Hugh Grant is a twit (adjust vowel as appropriate), it's one of Polanski's cruellest, I think. The scene where Peter Coyote's luck changes took me entirely by surprise. Great film. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of melinda grant Sent: 12 February 2009 02:10 To: thegathering mailing list Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine thats a good movie--i like hugh grant movie she may be a distant relative of mine ;D cheers-milindafgrant ;P ps ever seen -bitter moon? hugh grant does a very amusing role in that! > From: karen.weil at sddt.com > To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; gathering at misera.net > Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:52:51 -0800 > Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine > > Hey -- I just watched "Four Weddings & A Funeral!" > F*** a doodle do! ; ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers, k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: melinda grant To: thegathering mailing list Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine hugh is a distant relative ;) check out bitter moon you may find it intreegin,infact any roman polaski film is worth a view,as darren said,bitter moon is underatted but very good- -i found the film has a lybarith of swits and turns,its a bit sick in parts just shows you what humans can get up to when love-obsession turns to obsessive))))) re is so tacken by it,he wont give it backevenge and hugh is a bit of a twat in it,his role had me in stitches of laughter ;D))) had the dvd,lent it to a mate,he was so taken by it,i carnt get it back lol milindafgrant From: karen.weil at sddt.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 10:16:28 -0800 Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine Indeed, a bloody great comedy! If Hugh's a relative, please tell him "hello" for me! Cheers, k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: melinda grant To: thegathering mailing list Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine thats a good movie--i like hugh grant movie she may be a distant relative of mine ;D cheers-milindafgrant ;P ps ever seen -bitter moon? hugh grant does a very amusing role in that! > From: karen.weil at sddt.com > To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; gathering at misera.net > Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:52:51 -0800 > Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine > > Hey -- I just watched "Four Weddings & A Funeral!" > F*** a doodle do! ; ) > > Cheers, > > k.w. > another "frightful" American > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Darren A. Peace" > To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" > > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 4:47 PM > Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine > > > > Oh fuck. Fuckitty fuck (if one can say that without sounding like Hugh > > bloody Grant). > > > > Magazine did a "secret" warm-up gig in Oxford. 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But I'll have to check out Polanski's film from the early 90s! Cheers, k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: melinda grant To: thegathering mailing list Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine hugh is a distant relative ;) check out bitter moon you may find it intreegin,infact any roman polaski film is worth a view,as darren said,bitter moon is underatted but very good- -i found the film has a lybarith of swits and turns,its a bit sick in parts just shows you what humans can get up to when love-obsession turns to obsessive))))) re is so tacken by it,he wont give it backevenge and hugh is a bit of a twat in it,his role had me in stitches of laughter ;D))) had the dvd,lent it to a mate,he was so taken by it,i carnt get it back lol milindafgrant ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: karen.weil at sddt.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 10:16:28 -0800 Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine Indeed, a bloody great comedy! If Hugh's a relative, please tell him "hello" for me! Cheers, k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: melinda grant To: thegathering mailing list Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine thats a good movie--i like hugh grant movie she may be a distant relative of mine ;D cheers-milindafgrant ;P ps ever seen -bitter moon? hugh grant does a very amusing role in that! > From: karen.weil at sddt.com > To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; gathering at misera.net > Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:52:51 -0800 > Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine > > Hey -- I just watched "Four Weddings & A Funeral!" > F*** a doodle do! ; ) > > Cheers, > > k.w. > another "frightful" American > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Darren A. Peace" > To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" > > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 4:47 PM > Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine > > > > Oh fuck. Fuckitty fuck (if one can say that without sounding like Hugh > > bloody Grant). > > > > Magazine did a "secret" warm-up gig in Oxford. LAST NIGHT! 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URL: From ketracelwhite at hotmail.com Tue Feb 17 15:00:51 2009 From: ketracelwhite at hotmail.com (ketracelwhite at hotmail.com) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:00:51 -0800 Subject: [kj] (OT) Jane's Addiction at Echoplex in LA Last Night References: <07C24E45F260487D9E4A154023DED4B5@Bell2007PC> Message-ID: Thanks for the report! ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Mighty TB" To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 11:18 AM Subject: [kj] (OT) Jane's Addiction at Echoplex in LA Last Night > Jane's Addiction, reunited with original bass player Eric Avery has been > doing a few low key warm-up bar and club shows in LA the past few months > before they go out on tour with Nine Inch Nails in late Spring. I caught > last night's show at the Echoplex club which was their third appearance > together since all four members began working together again. > > It turned out to be an excellent if short show, mostly better than the > tiny El Cid bar show #2 which I caught last December. Only things I think > El Cid was marginally better was being a tiny club, much more intense > energy from the crowd that show. I think Perry sounded better there as > well. > > It had been raining really hard much of the day in Southern California and > I was really on the fence about going or not right up to about 6pm. I > went for it and got to the Echoplex (in Echo Park) around 8:15 and a huge > line of 200 - 300 people was winding along the building and it quickly > because obvious some people didn't have or even know about the RSVP thing. > Light rain had just stopped and it was cool but at least dry. The line > started moving as they left small groups of about 10 - 15 people in at a > time to get their ID checked for a wristband, then get their ID checked > against a list at the door from the website registration rsvps. Saw a > couple people turned away in front of me but later saw them inside so its > possible they had enough room for people who basically walked up to see > the show after the majority of RSVP'ers got in. Considering my own > feelings this method of getting people in the show could have turned into > a real mess, it seems like it turned out to be well run with few problems. > > My first time at Echoplex. Kind of a weird room, the mixing desk kinda > bisects the club in half so if your in the back, you gotta stand on some > boxes to get a decent view. Pretty laid back, almost too mellow of a > crowd especially for the opening band "Dot," which was kind of a more > ambient, dissonant noise version of Secret Machines. Band shows some > promise, but the singer was hardly audible, partly because he rarely > projected himself but moreso because the vocals were mixed way too far > down (same for Perry during Jane's set). They got a decent response from > the crowd, more respect than actual adoration. Frankly, I thought they > were boring. > > There was a long wait, made somewhat manageable by the selections whoever > was DJ'ing played a good amount of Killing Joke ("Change"), Bauhaus, > Cramps ("New Kind Of Kick" got a huge response), Bowie and a few other > favs on the PA. > > About 11:15, Jane's strolled on the stage and ground into Up The Beach. I > think it was played half a step down and a bit slower. Eric had more room > to prowl and stomp tonight so he'd either be doing his tribal stomp to > songs like Mountain Song or Ocean Size or locked into his zone often > staring up at the ceiling playing Pigs in Zen. Tonight, Dave was more on > the mark most of the show that the 2nd show, Perkins was simply 100% a > precision human piledriver. The man is simply an incredible drummer. > Perry unfortunately I have to say was the weak link. Not a lot of power > in his voice, didn't really make a lot of use of his little echo toolbox > and took a lot longer than the rest of the band to loosen up as the set > progressed. I will say when they got to Been Caught Stealing, he was up > with the rest of the band and loosened up enough to bullshit and introduce > most of the remaining songs. > > I do think in a lot of ways this reunion, especially how Perry carries > himself these days reminds me of the recent David Lee Roth/Van Halen > reunion in the way both frontmen have dropped the more manic, physical > aspect of their stage persona due to age and are more like Vegas car > dealers doing their shtick for the rubes. At times, Perry was genuinely > funny but when he used forced, awkward analogies to introduce each of the > last few songs, it got hackneyed. > > Most of the songs from a performance standpoint sounded excellent. > Mountain Song is played by Dave a bit differently now, a bit more RAWK! > like someone like Billy Duffy would play the tune. The band was very tight > with one major exception. The only song I thought kinda missed the mark > was the one I was most excited to hear, Ted, which lacked an "edge" it's > had in the past and never really got out of third gear and came close to > falling apart the last couple minutes as the band kind of careened a bit > out of time with each other. > > But I'll tell you what, "Stop" was fucking perfect. Clearly the best > performed song of the set and got great audience participation. "Had a > Dad" and "Ocean Size" ended the 2 song encore and the short barely hour > long set was done. > >>From a crowd standpoint, the asshole factor was low but there were a few > lobcocks who'd careen around like big, sweaty, smelly dreidels. One > grinning drunk slob who looked like Seth Rogan got hoisted up for some > crowd surfing and got maybe 5 feet before being dumped on the ground like > a sack of shit. He later wound up getting on the stage on Erics side and > then flopped off the stage like a beached whale. > > All n' all though, a great night even if it was too short and I *really* > wanted to hear "Three Days." > > Setlist: > > Up The Beach > Trip Away (on the setlist but not played) > Whores > 1% > Ain't No Right > Mountain Song > Been Caught Stealing > Ted Just Admit It. > Stop! > (encore) > Had a Dad > Ocean Size > > T.B. > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Tue Feb 17 18:37:48 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 12:37:48 +1300 (NZDT) Subject: [kj] (OT) Jane's Addiction at Echoplex in LA Last Night In-Reply-To: <07C24E45F260487D9E4A154023DED4B5@Bell2007PC> References: <07C24E45F260487D9E4A154023DED4B5@Bell2007PC> Message-ID: <3074.124.197.4.147.1234913868.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Gonna be 'interesting' to see how the NIN / Jane's Addiction shows pan out. My impressions of last night's NIN gig: Meh. With the emphasis on the 'eh'. I TRIED to like NIN. I went to all the effort of stealing Trentnor's life's work, listening to it on train and plane journeys, walking in to work and feeling incongruously anti-social (and anachronistic) while docile passersby passed by, oblivious to the fact that I was listening to something that sounded like a hardcore remake of the Metropolis soundtrack (1994 Crack Remix). ...familiarised myself with Pretty Hate Machine (I passed on the 2/3 of his album collection where he remixes his own stuff yawn), which I had never picked up before because of the awful name. So I was relatively familiar with NIN, at least moreso than previously, when my appreciation was limited to the Quake soundtrack (sounds like Tool lite) and "that song that Johnny Cash does better." And Perfect Drug...which always had me scratching my head as to why it was on such high rotate. (Surely these guys do better stuff than this?) The opening band's promo photo looked so shit I didn't even bother listening to anything online to see what they were like. (This admittedly renders the rest of my review useless due to extreme prejudice but hey...just being honest. Don't pretend you're not the same). NIN - sound quality was mildly mucky, not awful, and probably not their fault. Smallish crowd for the venue (half to two thirds of the ~10 000 seat venue filled). Good light show, basic but good impact. Overall...some pretty solid material. A fair bit of it sounds samey to me, and I really wouldn?t rate them up there with their 90s contemporaries (Soundgarden, Tool, Rage Against the Machine, Ministry) for impact, depth, breadth, or range. Anyway, a *relatively* solid gig, but a few things gave away that it was a phone-in, in a disappointing way. Practically no acknowledgement of the crowd, no encore, and ?this is probably going to be our last show in New Zealand" quoth Trentnor half-way through, in one of the perhaps two times he deigned to address the audience. Seemed to fuck half the audience off, and rightly so. That was it, not "hey this might be the last time I play here so let's rip shit up." More like..."this is probably the last time I'm gonna fuck you up the ass, not sure if I can come, anyway, just thought I'd share...FYI. Now breathe out and clench." Yeah no worries, thanks for the newsflash, it's certainly gonna be the last time you get any money from me (I bought 2 tix), and a lot of others in the crowd like me who have seen better, more considerate bands try to disguise a phone-in, or dredge up enough energy from the crowd to find some reason to enjoy being there. No encore despite most of the crowd giving it heaps for 10 mins, futiley as the stage was dismantled immediately the black-clad phoners in left. That was the more objective impression. This is what part of me really thinks: Go home and polish your Grammys and play Hurt to yourself on your synth you never-really-has-been. There's a reason I wasn't into NIN and I'm glad I had my suspicions confirmed. 80% of their songs sound the same. Sub par lyrics, predictable anthems for 14-year old sexually ambivalent teens to half-heartedly self-harm to in the privacy of their bedrooms in between Evanescence CDs. Note to self: Don't ever bend over backwards trying to like something you don't. > Jane's Addiction, reunited with original bass player Eric Avery has been > doing a few low key warm-up bar and club shows in LA the past few months > before they go out on tour with Nine Inch Nails in late Spring. I caught > last night's show at the Echoplex club which was their third appearance > together since all four members began working together again. > > It turned out to be an excellent if short show, mostly better than the > tiny > El Cid bar show #2 which I caught last December. Only things I think El > Cid > was marginally better was being a tiny club, much more intense energy from > the crowd that show. I think Perry sounded better there as well. > > It had been raining really hard much of the day in Southern California and > I > was really on the fence about going or not right up to about 6pm. I went > for it and got to the Echoplex (in Echo Park) around 8:15 and a huge line > of 200 - 300 people was winding along the building and it quickly because > obvious some people didn't have or even know about the RSVP thing. Light > rain had just stopped and it was cool but at least dry. The line started > moving as they left small groups of about 10 - 15 people in at a time to > get > their ID checked for a wristband, then get their ID checked against a list > at the door from the website registration rsvps. Saw a couple people > turned > away in front of me but later saw them inside so its possible they had > enough room for people who basically walked up to see the show after the > majority of RSVP'ers got in. Considering my own feelings this method of > getting people in the show could have turned into a real mess, it seems > like > it turned out to be well run with few problems. > > My first time at Echoplex. Kind of a weird room, the mixing desk kinda > bisects the club in half so if your in the back, you gotta stand on some > boxes to get a decent view. Pretty laid back, almost too mellow of a > crowd > especially for the opening band "Dot," which was kind of a more ambient, > dissonant noise version of Secret Machines. Band shows some promise, but > the singer was hardly audible, partly because he rarely projected himself > but moreso because the vocals were mixed way too far down (same for Perry > during Jane's set). They got a decent response from the crowd, more > respect > than actual adoration. Frankly, I thought they were boring. > > There was a long wait, made somewhat manageable by the selections whoever > was DJ'ing played a good amount of Killing Joke ("Change"), Bauhaus, > Cramps > ("New Kind Of Kick" got a huge response), Bowie and a few other favs on > the > PA. > > About 11:15, Jane's strolled on the stage and ground into Up The Beach. I > think it was played half a step down and a bit slower. Eric had more room > to > prowl and stomp tonight so he'd either be doing his tribal stomp to songs > like Mountain Song or Ocean Size or locked into his zone often staring up > at > the ceiling playing Pigs in Zen. Tonight, Dave was more on the mark most > of > the show that the 2nd show, Perkins was simply 100% a precision human > piledriver. The man is simply an incredible drummer. Perry unfortunately > I > have to say was the weak link. Not a lot of power in his voice, didn't > really make a lot of use of his little echo toolbox and took a lot longer > than the rest of the band to loosen up as the set progressed. I will say > when they got to Been Caught Stealing, he was up with the rest of the band > and loosened up enough to bullshit and introduce most of the remaining > songs. > > I do think in a lot of ways this reunion, especially how Perry carries > himself these days reminds me of the recent David Lee Roth/Van Halen > reunion > in the way both frontmen have dropped the more manic, physical aspect of > their stage persona due to age and are more like Vegas car dealers doing > their shtick for the rubes. At times, Perry was genuinely funny but when > he > used forced, awkward analogies to introduce each of the last few songs, it > got hackneyed. > > Most of the songs from a performance standpoint sounded excellent. > Mountain > Song is played by Dave a bit differently now, a bit more RAWK! like > someone > like Billy Duffy would play the tune. The band was very tight with one > major > exception. The only song I thought kinda missed the mark was the one I was > most excited to hear, Ted, which lacked an "edge" it's had in the past and > never really got out of third gear and came close to falling apart the > last > couple minutes as the band kind of careened a bit out of time with each > other. > > But I'll tell you what, "Stop" was fucking perfect. Clearly the best > performed song of the set and got great audience participation. "Had a > Dad" > and "Ocean Size" ended the 2 song encore and the short barely hour long > set > was done. > >>From a crowd standpoint, the asshole factor was low but there were a few > lobcocks who'd careen around like big, sweaty, smelly dreidels. One > grinning drunk slob who looked like Seth Rogan got hoisted up for some > crowd > surfing and got maybe 5 feet before being dumped on the ground like a sack > of shit. He later wound up getting on the stage on Erics side and then > flopped off the stage like a beached whale. > > All n' all though, a great night even if it was too short and I *really* > wanted to hear "Three Days." > > Setlist: > > Up The Beach > Trip Away (on the setlist but not played) > Whores > 1% > Ain't No Right > Mountain Song > Been Caught Stealing > Ted Just Admit It. > Stop! > (encore) > Had a Dad > Ocean Size > > T.B. > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com Tue Feb 17 18:44:10 2009 From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 23:44:10 +0000 Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine and movies In-Reply-To: <08C1A17629AF4B0AA67C88DC576AEF76@edweil> References: <1646350c0902110602r58ba2471ob9f4a0c4191181d0@mail.gmail.com><00ee01c98cab$8a2b0060$9e810120$@com><10D19D34B7DD41C6B4BF2988EB9725B7@edweil> <08C1A17629AF4B0AA67C88DC576AEF76@edweil> Message-ID: heres another director who will hold you in suspence--alfred hitchcock--any of his movies wil do,but personal favs of mine are--vertigo,marnie and spellbound ;) milindafgrant From: karen.weil at sddt.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:49:49 -0800 Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine Well, of course -- it's Polanski! ; ) k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: melinda grant To: thegathering mailing list Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine hi karen ;) happy viewing any polanski movie your mind will be truly stimulated ;D milindafgrant From: karen.weil at sddt.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:42:45 -0800 Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine Hi, Milinda: Haven't seen "Bitter Moon" but generally like watching Grant -- he's a fine comedic actor. But I'll have to check out Polanski's film from the early 90s! Cheers, k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: melinda grant To: thegathering mailing list Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine hugh is a distant relative ;) check out bitter moon you may find it intreegin,infact any roman polaski film is worth a view,as darren said,bitter moon is underatted but very good- -i found the film has a lybarith of swits and turns,its a bit sick in parts just shows you what humans can get up to when love-obsession turns to obsessive))))) re is so tacken by it,he wont give it backevenge and hugh is a bit of a twat in it,his role had me in stitches of laughter ;D))) had the dvd,lent it to a mate,he was so taken by it,i carnt get it back lol milindafgrant From: karen.weil at sddt.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 10:16:28 -0800 Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine Indeed, a bloody great comedy! If Hugh's a relative, please tell him "hello" for me! Cheers, k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: melinda grant To: thegathering mailing list Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine thats a good movie--i like hugh grant movie she may be a distant relative of mine ;D cheers-milindafgrant ;P ps ever seen -bitter moon? hugh grant does a very amusing role in that! > From: karen.weil at sddt.com > To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; gathering at misera.net > Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:52:51 -0800 > Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine > > Hey -- I just watched "Four Weddings & A Funeral!" > F*** a doodle do! ; ) > > Cheers, > > k.w. > another "frightful" American > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Darren A. Peace" > To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" > > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 4:47 PM > Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine > > > > Oh fuck. Fuckitty fuck (if one can say that without sounding like Hugh > > bloody Grant). > > > > Magazine did a "secret" warm-up gig in Oxford. LAST NIGHT! And I missed > > it. > > > > Bah. > > > > Darren > > Hungerford, UK > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering at misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering Beyond Hotmail - see what else you can do with Windows Live Find out more! _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering Windows Live Hotmail just got better. 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I caught > last night's show at the Echoplex club which was their third appearance > together since all four members began working together again. > > It turned out to be an excellent if short show, mostly better than the > tiny El Cid bar show #2 which I caught last December. Only things I think > El Cid was marginally better was being a tiny club, much more intense > energy from the crowd that show. I think Perry sounded better there as > well. > > It had been raining really hard much of the day in Southern California and > I was really on the fence about going or not right up to about 6pm. I > went for it and got to the Echoplex (in Echo Park) around 8:15 and a huge > line of 200 - 300 people was winding along the building and it quickly > because obvious some people didn't have or even know about the RSVP thing. > Light rain had just stopped and it was cool but at least dry. The line > started moving as they left small groups of about 10 - 15 people in at a > time to get their ID checked for a wristband, then get their ID checked > against a list at the door from the website registration rsvps. Saw a > couple people turned away in front of me but later saw them inside so its > possible they had enough room for people who basically walked up to see > the show after the majority of RSVP'ers got in. Considering my own > feelings this method of getting people in the show could have turned into > a real mess, it seems like it turned out to be well run with few problems. > > My first time at Echoplex. Kind of a weird room, the mixing desk kinda > bisects the club in half so if your in the back, you gotta stand on some > boxes to get a decent view. Pretty laid back, almost too mellow of a > crowd especially for the opening band "Dot," which was kind of a more > ambient, dissonant noise version of Secret Machines. Band shows some > promise, but the singer was hardly audible, partly because he rarely > projected himself but moreso because the vocals were mixed way too far > down (same for Perry during Jane's set). They got a decent response from > the crowd, more respect than actual adoration. Frankly, I thought they > were boring. > > There was a long wait, made somewhat manageable by the selections whoever > was DJ'ing played a good amount of Killing Joke ("Change"), Bauhaus, > Cramps ("New Kind Of Kick" got a huge response), Bowie and a few other > favs on the PA. > > About 11:15, Jane's strolled on the stage and ground into Up The Beach. I > think it was played half a step down and a bit slower. Eric had more room > to prowl and stomp tonight so he'd either be doing his tribal stomp to > songs like Mountain Song or Ocean Size or locked into his zone often > staring up at the ceiling playing Pigs in Zen. Tonight, Dave was more on > the mark most of the show that the 2nd show, Perkins was simply 100% a > precision human piledriver. The man is simply an incredible drummer. > Perry unfortunately I have to say was the weak link. Not a lot of power > in his voice, didn't really make a lot of use of his little echo toolbox > and took a lot longer than the rest of the band to loosen up as the set > progressed. I will say when they got to Been Caught Stealing, he was up > with the rest of the band and loosened up enough to bullshit and introduce > most of the remaining songs. > > I do think in a lot of ways this reunion, especially how Perry carries > himself these days reminds me of the recent David Lee Roth/Van Halen > reunion in the way both frontmen have dropped the more manic, physical > aspect of their stage persona due to age and are more like Vegas car > dealers doing their shtick for the rubes. At times, Perry was genuinely > funny but when he used forced, awkward analogies to introduce each of the > last few songs, it got hackneyed. > > Most of the songs from a performance standpoint sounded excellent. > Mountain Song is played by Dave a bit differently now, a bit more RAWK! > like someone like Billy Duffy would play the tune. The band was very tight > with one major exception. The only song I thought kinda missed the mark > was the one I was most excited to hear, Ted, which lacked an "edge" it's > had in the past and never really got out of third gear and came close to > falling apart the last couple minutes as the band kind of careened a bit > out of time with each other. > > But I'll tell you what, "Stop" was fucking perfect. Clearly the best > performed song of the set and got great audience participation. "Had a > Dad" and "Ocean Size" ended the 2 song encore and the short barely hour > long set was done. > >>From a crowd standpoint, the asshole factor was low but there were a few > lobcocks who'd careen around like big, sweaty, smelly dreidels. One > grinning drunk slob who looked like Seth Rogan got hoisted up for some > crowd surfing and got maybe 5 feet before being dumped on the ground like > a sack of shit. He later wound up getting on the stage on Erics side and > then flopped off the stage like a beached whale. > > All n' all though, a great night even if it was too short and I *really* > wanted to hear "Three Days." > > Setlist: > > Up The Beach > Trip Away (on the setlist but not played) > Whores > 1% > Ain't No Right > Mountain Song > Been Caught Stealing > Ted Just Admit It. > Stop! > (encore) > Had a Dad > Ocean Size > > T.B. > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From folk.devil at hotmail.com Tue Feb 17 21:03:35 2009 From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:03:35 -0800 Subject: [kj] (OT) Mashup 05 - out now Message-ID: mashup05 Get A: Head is out now on mash up records If a picture is worth a thousand words two of those words are: "THE SCENE". Humanity depicted in a dance as old as time itself... However, to dwell on the positives: we are delighted to release this 5 track EP, once again not subscribing to one specific genre, but rather finding a connection in dissonance and intricate structures amalgamated with discordant soundscapes and noise. Music that unravels a new layer upon each listen and sounds wicked on a rig! Previews here: element abuse - oxnahelicopterface (element abuse remix) - purpose achesconcrete cookie feat. laura cetilia + marc thomas - a dry red shardhelicopterface - positive collideretrigger - mean a a swingthe 12" is available @ the Hardstore in UK and shortly Mash Up in the US (feel free to contact us on myspace) *And if you act now, we'll include an extra added free complimentary bonus gift at no cost to you: a classic deluxe custom designer luxury prestige high-quality premium select gourmet combination key ring , magnifying glass, and garden hose, in a genuine imitation leather-style carrying case with authentic vinyl trim. Yours for the asking, no purchase necessary.It's our way of saying thank you." -George Carlin.. Linkage: www.myspace.com/mashuprecords http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.viewcustom&friendID=3635727&blogID=470504964&swapped=true http://www.mashup.org/ _________________________________________________________________ Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn ?10 hidden secrets? from Jamie. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tijs at kong.nl Wed Feb 18 04:08:42 2009 From: tijs at kong.nl (Tijs) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 10:08:42 +0100 Subject: [kj] (ot) French Connection! Message-ID: <453E7126-CE9A-4812-8F3E-DA3BFCB92D67@kong.nl> Dear fellow Gatherers, My band KONG will release a new album on March 27th. We have distribution in the Benelux (Suburban Records) and in Germany (Soulfood). Are there any French Gatherers who could provide me wit a list of French metal, rock avantgarde magazines? Feel free to check out our band at www.kong.nl or http:// www.myspace.com/kongnl Please contact me off list. Cheers et merci! Matt - Amsterdam From fatpotanga at gmail.com Wed Feb 18 08:51:54 2009 From: fatpotanga at gmail.com (fatpotanga) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:51:54 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT: Weds fun - Dr Chinnery's Rectal Endurance Test In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: call me childish but... https://www.thisisalocalshop.com/rectal-endurance-test/ From Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk Wed Feb 18 09:03:03 2009 From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk (Janean Lancaster) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:03:03 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT: Microsoft Songsmith Message-ID: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DB92@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> Apologies if it's been posted before and I missed it... 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Forgot just how brilliant it was - I'd forgotten all about Iris and Mrs Levinson... > -----Original Message----- > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > On Behalf Of fatpotanga > Sent: 18 February 2009 13:52 > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > Subject: [kj] OT: Weds fun - Dr Chinnery's Rectal Endurance Test > > call me childish but... > https://www.thisisalocalshop.com/rectal-endurance-test/ > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com Wed Feb 18 10:35:27 2009 From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:35:27 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT: Weds fun - Dr Chinnery's Rectal Endurance Test In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: lol this is a local shop for local people ;) milindafgrant ps fats your childish and loveable ;P > From: fatpotanga at gmail.com > To: gathering at misera.net > Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:51:54 +0000 > Subject: [kj] OT: Weds fun - Dr Chinnery's Rectal Endurance Test > > call me childish but... > https://www.thisisalocalshop.com/rectal-endurance-test/ > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Discover Bird's Eye View now with Multimap from Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354026/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Great way to start off the day. :) At 09:03 AM 2/18/2009, Janean Lancaster wrote: >Content-class: urn:content-classes:message >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C991D1.9DD44295" > >Apologies if it?s been posted before and I missed it > >Roxanne made me laugh out loud! > >http://timesonline.typepad.com/technology/2009/02/top-20-tracks-r.html > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering at misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk Wed Feb 18 11:55:02 2009 From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk (jo) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 16:55:02 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT: Microsoft Songsmith References: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DB92@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> <75A519CD-847A-4FAC-8EF1-F9E5540C83C7@gmail.com> Message-ID: <06ef01c991e9$a44bac40$0100000a@jo> I liked Nirvana. this is fab! On 18 Feb 2009, at 14:03, Janean Lancaster wrote: Apologies if it?s been posted before and I missed it? Roxanne made me laugh out loud! http://timesonline.typepad.com/technology/2009/02/top-20-tracks-r.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 18 Feb 2009, at 14:03, Janean Lancaster wrote: Apologies if it?s been posted before and I missed it? Roxanne made me laugh out loud! http://timesonline.typepad.com/technology/2009/02/top-20-tracks-r.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpeace at bigfoot.com Wed Feb 18 20:00:50 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 01:00:50 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT: Microsoft Songsmith In-Reply-To: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DB92@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> References: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DB92@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> Message-ID: <000601c9922d$856210f0$902632d0$@com> This software is fucking brilliant. I might even buy it. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Janean Lancaster Sent: 18 February 2009 14:03 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 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Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 6:20 PM Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine - London Forum 13th February (spoliers) As promised, for anyone interested (and a warning for those who aren't, there's little to interest you here), this is how the Magazine gig went for me. Venue was the London Forum in Kentish Town. The last time I went to a concert there it was the KJ two-nighter, when my car (parked in Reading) was broken into. This time, I was taking no chances, and found a new car park with electrified shutters, machine-gun turrets and patrolling security guards with Dobermanns lacking their larynxes. Chatham Place, in case anyone might use it. Cheaper than parking at the railway station too, slightly. Didn't get to see more than the last song of the support act, a 4-girl group called Ipso Facto, as my friend who was coming to the gig with me was in a coach stuck on the M4 for three hours. Still, Ipso Facto were interesting, although all I knew about them was that one of their number is Hilton Valentine's (from the Animals) daughter. Saixties-ish vibe, although it was unfortunate that the fancy dress shop only had three Louise Brooks wigs left, as the drummer stood out rather. Once they were done, and I'd amused myself at the merchandise stand (which took card payments! Wish more did) - buying three t-shirts, a CD compiled from several Magazine bootlegs I already have and a Magazine mug (since this was Magazine, there is certainly a post-modern joke there, but a mug with "I know the meaning of life" on one side and "It doesn't help me a bit" on the other will sit well alongside my Nick Cave tea towels and the space where the Grinderman knickers might have been); I baulked at the Malcolm Garrett silk-screened prints - ?50, but ?75 when signed by the artist & the band - I've got enough shit on my walls already - although I've seen and enjoyed "Hunger", I'm not meaning that literally - and I have much-treasured "Shot By Both Sides" 7", "Give Me Everything" 7", "Real Life" & "Secondhand Daylight" LPs all autographed in my presence already; anything Magazine related needs to be signed by McGeoch to be of interest to me), it was time to get to the front and assess the audience. I really had no idea of what type of audience to expect; the last time I saw Magazine everyone was between 15 and 20 and looked 15 to 20 years old. It turns out that by and large Magazine fans are short (bonus! no Lurch in front of me!), male, with a proclivity for trendy spectacles and manbags. There were some women there, but not many. More than at the KJ gigs, I'd say. And everyone was very polite as we barrelled to the front(ish). To be honest, everyone looked rather as though they were more used to attending garden centres and discussing the finer points of the Palestinian conflict. With manbags, which are an abhorrence and should result in spot fines and a going over with rubber hoses. The venue clearly had an eighties new wave compilation CD to hand, as we listened to it twice; still, "Sons & Fascinations"-era Simple Minds is a particular favourite of mine, and there was Buzzcocks (although not "Lipstick", sadly), so it wasn't all bad. And then "The Thin Air" came on over the PA. Lights down. Sense of anticipation ferocious. After the whole track, a spoken Devoto monologue from behind the theatre leg, and then the curtain opened. Straight into a superb "Light Pours Out Of Me". Great "Real Life"-inspired backdrop. Adamson kitted out like a Baron Samedi pimp lord, with top hat, Jason King shirt open to his Borat and Fly-era U2 shades. Noko (who, in fairness, made a decent fist of the guitar work, but no-one's McGeoch) in what appeared to be a scarlet velour suit, with soul patches all over his face, and with a worrying propensity for pulling spooge-faces at inopportune moments. Doyle looking like an accountant behind the drums (it always amused me, in the Armoury Show, when they were thinking of "cool" names for themselves, McGeoch was "The Legend", Jobson was "The Captain", Russell Webb was "Universe", and John Doyle was ... "Doylie"). Formula, criminally undermixed throughout, was startling in a pork-pie hat. Then out skipped Devoto. I'll make my position clear. I think Howard Devoto is a God-touched genius, and is my favourite ever lyricist (yes, better then Mark E. Smith). His book of lyrics is fantastic, and can be read as poetry - his solo "Rainy Season" is a deeply significant song for me, for many reasons, but one of those reasons is the perfection of the lyrics. It was therefore unfortunate that he appeared in pedal pushers, espadrilles and a pink yachting blazer. With his total baldness, I'm afraid he looked like Dr. Evil, and I outraged the fat bloke wearing a flat cap standing next to me by saying "One million dollars" in a stupid voice to my friend at this point. Still, with his onstage freedom (I particularly liked his pretending to be a 'plane bit, although Shellac do that best, I think) and his mannered delivery, he didn't let me down. Very theatrical, but absolutely right. The setlist? The Light Pours Out of Me The Great Beautician In The Sky / Model Worker The Honeymoon Killers Because You're Frightened You Never Knew Me Rhythm of Cruelty I Want To Burn Again This Poison A Song from Under the Floorboards Permafrost The Book Twenty Years Ago /Definitive Gaze Parade Shot By Both Sides ENCORE: Thank You Motorcade 2nd encore: I Love You Big Dummy The "Correct Use Of Soap" and "Magic, Murder & The Weather"-era tracks had members of Ipso Facto (whose LBDs & Louise Brooks wigs were by this stage starting to grow on me) popping up to sing backing vocals; the songs came across surprisingly well in a live environment, although it's the first two albums, when Magazine were lumbering and surly, that inspire my love for this band. Noko royally fouled up the guitar riff during "The Honeymoon Killers"; I don't remember Mandelson having such trouble with it. The fact that the setlist was CUoS & MM&TW heavy was a slight problem for me; I wouldn't have dropped anything (oh, all right, "The Book", of which more in a moment), but it would have been perfect to have had "Back To Nature", "Give Me Everything" and "Feed The Enemy". Little things were a delight; Adamson reclining on a fold-up chair like the louche bastard he is, as though he were awaiting some intimate attention for "Thank You", Noko making a hash of the solo in "Permafrost" (which song was absolutely the highlight for me), the mid-set eulogy for McGeoch. Even "The Book", the yawnsome b-side, was transformed by having Devoto read the text from behind a lectern, with the unfortunate consequence, with the accompanying dry ice, of making him look like Davros, talking like Wallace. "Not now, Gromit" was another aside that agitated my fat friend in the cap. He, however, got elbowed in the kidneys by a flailing midget during the fast bit of "Motorcade", so that was satisfying. The main problem was the shitty sound. This is a band who need the keyboards up in the mix, and I couldn't hear Formula for great swathes of the set. Things would certainly have been muddied by my being so far forward, but I've heard much better at the Forum. There was some irritation at the inconsistent behaviour of the audience, who generally seemed not to have been to a gig since the eighties; standing around self-consciously some of the time, then suddenly launching into that awful keep-feet-still-sway-at-the-hips-and-make-udder-milking-movements-with-the-arms spastic dance, resulting in my being drenched by what tasted like Pimms on two occasions. Wouldn't have missed it for the world; if I could be sure of better sound, I'd go to one of the Manchester dates. Hope anyone who goes has as good a time as I did. Photos (within the constraints of the crappy iPhone camera) are on my Faecebook page, but I don't go to gigs to take photos, so there aren't many. Darren Hungerford, UK ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpeace at bigfoot.com Wed Feb 18 22:08:02 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 03:08:02 -0000 Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine In-Reply-To: References: <1646350c0902110602r58ba2471ob9f4a0c4191181d0@mail.gmail.com><00ee01c98cab$8a2b0060$9e810120$@com><10D19D34B7DD41C6B4BF2988EB9725B7@edweil> Message-ID: <002d01c9923f$51ef6c10$f5ce4430$@com> Apart from "Pirates", "What?" and that awful "Oliver Twist" he did recently. My favourite Polanski is "The Tenant", and I'm also a huge fan of "Repulsion", "Chinatown", "Tess", "Knife In The Water", "Frantic", "Bitter Moon", "Rosemary's Baby" (in fact, when I was last in NY, I skulked around the Dakota building like a weirdo, amidst all the glum Lennon devotees, who were disappointed that I was looking for "Rosemary's Baby" camera angles rather than forlornly looking for bloodstains on the - erm - sidewalk). I also like "The Pianist", and the daft Devil book one with that Depp fellow. Oh, and "The Fearless Vampire Killers". And even "Cul de Sac". Donald Pleasence in drag? Count me in. His "Macbeth" is great too, as is "Death & The Maiden". He's a great film-maker, whose unfortunate tendency to molest under-age girls in Jack Nicholson's Jacuzzi rather spoils things. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of melinda grant Sent: 17 February 2009 19:47 To: thegathering mailing list Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine hi karen ;) happy viewing any polanski movie your mind will be truly stimulated ;D milindafgrant -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpeace at bigfoot.com Wed Feb 18 22:13:12 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 03:13:12 -0000 Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine and movies In-Reply-To: References: <1646350c0902110602r58ba2471ob9f4a0c4191181d0@mail.gmail.com><00ee01c98cab$8a2b0060$9e810120$@com><10D19D34B7DD41C6B4BF2988EB9725B7@edweil> <08C1A17629AF4B0AA67C88DC576AEF76@edweil> Message-ID: <003201c99240$06c53700$144fa500$@com> Don't get me started. Hitchcock is my absolute favourite film director, despite his occasional tendency to be schoolboyish about smut (the train going into the tunnel at the end of "North By Northwest", for example), and the alarming frequency of unconvincing process shots (Tippi Hedren on her horse in "Marnie", etc.) . Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of melinda grant Sent: 17 February 2009 23:44 To: thegathering mailing list Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine and movies heres another director who will hold you in suspence--alfred hitchcock--any of his movies wil do,but personal favs of mine are--vertigo,marnie and spellbound ;) milindafgrant -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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But fuck Polanski, Kieslowski and Wajda are where Polish movies are at! b From Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk Thu Feb 19 05:50:38 2009 From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk (Janean Lancaster) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:50:38 -0000 Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine and movies References: <1646350c0902110602r58ba2471ob9f4a0c4191181d0@mail.gmail.com><00ee01c98cab$8a2b0060$9e810120$@com><10D19D34B7DD41C6B4BF2988EB9725B7@edweil> <08C1A17629AF4B0AA67C88DC576AEF76@edweil> <003201c99240$06c53700$144fa500$@com> Message-ID: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DB9C@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> "Rear Window" is my absolute favourite film. Love the whole feel of it. I also love "Frenzy" - the amusing bits with the detective's wife and her culinary delights. He made some crap as well though. ________________________________ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 19 February 2009 03:13 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine and movies Don't get me started. Hitchcock is my absolute favourite film director, despite his occasional tendency to be schoolboyish about smut (the train going into the tunnel at the end of "North By Northwest", for example), and the alarming frequency of unconvincing process shots (Tippi Hedren on her horse in "Marnie", etc.) . Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of melinda grant Sent: 17 February 2009 23:44 To: thegathering mailing list Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine and movies heres another director who will hold you in suspence--alfred hitchcock--any of his movies wil do,but personal favs of mine are--vertigo,marnie and spellbound ;) milindafgrant -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 06:02:55 2009 From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:02:55 +0100 Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine and movies In-Reply-To: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DB9C@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> References: <08C1A17629AF4B0AA67C88DC576AEF76@edweil> <003201c99240$06c53700$144fa500$@com> <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DB9C@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> Message-ID: When it comes to old movies, i worship Fritz Lang for his two masterpieces M and Metropolis. Also Sergei Eisenstein and Friedrich Murnau, and even Leni Riefenstahl. Alfred Hitchcock, yes please, especially Vertigo is visually impressive. But i'd take an Orson Welles movie over a Hitchcock movie any day, especially The Trial, which to me is how a movie can be taken to perfection. From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Thu Feb 19 06:10:19 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 00:10:19 +1300 (NZDT) Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine and movies In-Reply-To: References: <08C1A17629AF4B0AA67C88DC576AEF76@edweil> <003201c99240$06c53700$144fa500$@com> <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DB9C@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> Message-ID: <1448.124.197.4.147.1235041819.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Even as a Queen fan I thought the Queen soundtrack to Metropolis was a bit incongruous. Imagine if they'd had Killing Joke do it...Labyrinth would have ruled. If I had any chops with video editing I'd do it myself. > When it comes to old movies, i worship Fritz Lang for his two > masterpieces M and Metropolis. Also Sergei Eisenstein and Friedrich > Murnau, and even Leni Riefenstahl. > > Alfred Hitchcock, yes please, especially Vertigo is visually > impressive. But i'd take an Orson Welles movie over a Hitchcock movie > any day, especially The Trial, which to me is how a movie can be taken > to perfection. > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 06:15:17 2009 From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:15:17 +0100 Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine and movies In-Reply-To: <1448.124.197.4.147.1235041819.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> References: <08C1A17629AF4B0AA67C88DC576AEF76@edweil> <003201c99240$06c53700$144fa500$@com> <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DB9C@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> <1448.124.197.4.147.1235041819.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: Large parts of Pandemonium would fit into Metropolis just fine. b On 2/19/09, Brendan wrote: > Even as a Queen fan I thought the Queen soundtrack to Metropolis was a bit > incongruous. Imagine if they'd had Killing Joke do it...Labyrinth would > have ruled. If I had any chops with video editing I'd do it myself. From dpeace at bigfoot.com Thu Feb 19 08:11:30 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 13:11:30 -0000 Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine and movies In-Reply-To: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DB9C@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> References: <1646350c0902110602r58ba2471ob9f4a0c4191181d0@mail.gmail.com><00ee01c98cab$8a2b0060$9e810120$@com><10D19D34B7DD41C6B4BF2988EB9725B7@edweil> <08C1A17629AF4B0AA67C88DC576AEF76@edweil> <003201c99240$06c53700$144fa500$@com> <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DB9C@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> Message-ID: <001901c99293$97e42950$c7ac7bf0$@com> I don't think that Grace Kelly was ever lovelier than in "Rear Window" (in fact, that's the film's only flaw, imo - he'd have been too busy interfering with her to notice what was going on outside), and "Frenzy" has my favourite Hitchcock script - Shaffer was a genius. He generally only made crap when he was subject to studio interference, although even the Selznick-hobbled "Rebecca" has some outstanding moments. I find it difficult to empathise with a heroine who needs a good hearty slap, though. My favourite is "Vertigo" (with "Shadow Of A Doubt", "Psycho", "Strangers On A Train" & "Rear Window" close behind) , a beautiful film about necrophilia. But the common factor to his films that draws me to them is the gallows humour present throughout; his less successful works are for me those which have less of that. Really crap Hitchcocks? "Juno & the Paycock", the remake of "Man Who Knew Too Much" ("Que sera sera" indeed. Pah). "Topaz". Most of "Torn Curtain". Darren Hungerford, UK From: Janean Lancaster [mailto:Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk] Sent: 19 February 2009 10:51 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: RE: [kj] [OT] Magazine and movies "Rear Window" is my absolute favourite film. Love the whole feel of it. I also love "Frenzy" - the amusing bits with the detective's wife and her culinary delights. 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Peace) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 13:54:44 -0000 Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine and movies In-Reply-To: References: <08C1A17629AF4B0AA67C88DC576AEF76@edweil> <003201c99240$06c53700$144fa500$@com> <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DB9C@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> <001901c99293$97e42950$c7ac7bf0$@com> Message-ID: <002e01c99299$a0c052a0$e240f7e0$@com> I also think his "Absolution" script is phenomenal. http://www.amazon.com/Absolution-Richard-Burton/dp/B00004Y7FT Darren Hungerford, UK -----Original Message----- From: Bo Krogsgaard [mailto:bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com] Sent: 19 February 2009 13:32 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine and movies On 2/19/09, Darren A. Peace wrote: > Shaffer was a genius. Wicker Man! Never underestimate a stunt butt :) > My favourite is "Vertigo" I second that. Visual masterpiece. b From bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 09:00:34 2009 From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:00:34 +0100 Subject: [kj] [OT] Crapcademy Awards 2009 Message-ID: Since today's topic is movies, i have to recommend you Waltz With Bashir. It's Israelian, animated, and a very surreal movie, not far from Waking Life but with a war theme. It has already won a buttload of awards, and i truly hope it gets an Oscar, because it's not only the first time Israel presents a good movie, it's also the first time you see an Israelian movie that doesn't take sides. The animation could be better but the artwork is fine and the story is so powerful. Go watch it or download it or whatever, it is highly recommended for anyone who likes intelligent yet surreal movies and don't mind a war theme. b From jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Feb 19 09:15:32 2009 From: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk (Jim Harper) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 14:15:32 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] [OT] Movies In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <799673.27896.qm@web25905.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hitchcock is a director I admire greatly but I don't actually *like* many of his films. At his best- Psycho, Vertigo and The Lodger?for me- he's truly incredible, but I've been disappointed by him a number of times. Frenzy is okay but it plays like a film-school graduate directing a broad parody of classic-era Hitchcock; Marnie is so dated now the impact is almost entirely lost; Topaz and Torn Curtain just weak. He does deserve most of?the acclaim he's received, but I'll never be a big fan. ? I don't mind Lang either, particularly the two sound versions of Dr Mabuse and Metropolis. ? I do like a number of Hitchcock- and Lang-inspired movies though- things like Richard Franklin's Roadgames and Psycho II (both excellent); Brian De Palma's Sisters and Dressed to Kill (back before De Palma's talent dribbled out of his ears); and then some of my all-time favourites: Dario Argento's The Bird With The Crystal Plumage and Suspiria. Everyone who loves film *must* see those two movies, milestones both of them. Jim. NOW AVAILABLE: Flowers From Hell: The Modern Japanese Horror Film, by Jim Harper (Noir Publishing). "Fascinating overview of the Japanese horror boom... Comprehensive, in-depth and slickly presented."- DVD Monthly. Available from Noir Publishing, Amazon.co.uk, Waterstones and all good bookstores. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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And he sure made one wonderful slut of a daughter :) b From folk.devil at hotmail.com Thu Feb 19 11:24:26 2009 From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 08:24:26 -0800 Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine and movies In-Reply-To: <1448.124.197.4.147.1235041819.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> References: <08C1A17629AF4B0AA67C88DC576AEF76@edweil> <003201c99240$06c53700$144fa500$@com> <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DB9C@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> <1448.124.197.4.147.1235041819.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: Jeff Mills (old Detroit Techno artist) did a pretty good interpretation of the Metropolis soundtrack. > Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 00:10:19 +1300 > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine and movies > > Even as a Queen fan I thought the Queen soundtrack to Metropolis was a bit > incongruous. Imagine if they'd had Killing Joke do it...Labyrinth would > have ruled. 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References: <14762.7688.qm@web57108.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: >Has anyone else been unsubscibed from the list due to "excessive bounces" >recently? It seems to be happening quite a bit recently . . I don't think it is a problem with the list software, it seems to be more to do with Yahoo and AOL email accounts? I am monitoring the bounce history to see if I can find any patterns . . so far all I can see is an elephant in a yacht though Marc. This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. 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On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Blazingstar418 wrote: > > Has anyone else been unsubscibed from the list due to "excessive bounces" > recently? > > It's happened to me twice so far this month. > > A L P > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Thu Feb 19 13:19:21 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:19:21 -0800 Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine References: <1646350c0902110602r58ba2471ob9f4a0c4191181d0@mail.gmail.com><00ee01c98cab$8a2b0060$9e810120$@com><10D19D34B7DD41C6B4BF2988EB9725B7@edweil> <002d01c9923f$51ef6c10$f5ce4430$@com> Message-ID: <0CE2FADC2C6D4839A8CDD5D245D98CEC@edweil> Also, I think "Frantic" (from '88) is underrated. Really like that movie. As for Polanski's scandalous past, that might be resolved in the near future. (Given how Woody Allen still continues to work in spite of his really wretched personal decision to have an affair with his step-daughter, nothing is impossible). k.w. ----- Original Message ---- From: Darren A. Peace To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine Apart from "Pirates", "What?" and that awful "Oliver Twist" he did recently. My favourite Polanski is "The Tenant", and I'm also a huge fan of "Repulsion", "Chinatown", "Tess", "Knife In The Water", "Frantic", "Bitter Moon", "Rosemary's Baby" (in fact, when I was last in NY, I skulked around the Dakota building like a weirdo, amidst all the glum Lennon devotees, who were disappointed that I was looking for "Rosemary's Baby" camera angles rather than forlornly looking for bloodstains on the - erm - sidewalk). I also like "The Pianist", and the daft Devil book one with that Depp fellow. Oh, and "The Fearless Vampire Killers". And even "Cul de Sac". Donald Pleasence in drag? Count me in. His "Macbeth" is great too, as is "Death & The Maiden". He's a great film-maker, whose unfortunate tendency to molest under-age girls in Jack Nicholson's Jacuzzi rather spoils things. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of melinda grant Sent: 17 February 2009 19:47 To: thegathering mailing list Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine hi karen ;) happy viewing any polanski movie your mind will be truly stimulated ;D milindafgrant ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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"Strangers on a Train" Alex in NYC -----Original Message----- From: Circus Bar Sent: Feb 19, 2009 8:16 AM To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk, "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" , 'Janean Lancaster' Subject: [kj] Hitchcock Let?s not forget to mention Hitchcock?s ROPE one of the best movies ever made!!! d i a z ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Peace) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:23:41 -0000 Subject: [kj] Hitchcock In-Reply-To: References: <13600306.1235056116959.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <008601c992c7$935cced0$ba166c70$@com> Absolutely. And I can't believe I forgot "The Lady Vanishes"! Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of fatpotanga Sent: 19 February 2009 19:12 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Hitchcock I would add to that 'the 39 Steps' On 19 Feb 2009, at 15:08, Alex Smith wrote: My faves: 1. "Vertigo" 2. "North By Northwest" 3. "Psycho" (c'mon -- there is no argument) 4. "Rear Window" 5. "Strangers on a Train" Alex in NYC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The scale is impressive (he didn't often do outside with any sense of space), but that awful matte shot of the petrol station exploding pulls me straight out of it. I know it's contentious in Hitchcock circles, but I don't think Hedren carries this one off. She's impressive in "Marnie", though, even if it has dated badly. Trivia fact : the sailor in the final flashback in "Marnie" is played by Bruce Dern, who takes a far more substantial role in "Family Plot" opposite William Devane's extraordinarily wide mouth. Darren Hungerford, UK -----Original Message----- From: Bo Krogsgaard [mailto:bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com] Sent: 19 February 2009 19:30 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Hitchcock Apart from Vertigo, i think The Birds made the largest visual impact on me. b From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com Thu Feb 19 15:31:10 2009 From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:31:10 +0000 Subject: [kj] FW: [OT] Magazine In-Reply-To: <002d01c9923f$51ef6c10$f5ce4430$@com> References: <1646350c0902110602r58ba2471ob9f4a0c4191181d0@mail.gmail.com><00ee01c98cab$8a2b0060$9e810120$@com><10D19D34B7DD41C6B4BF2988EB9725B7@edweil> <002d01c9923f$51ef6c10$f5ce4430$@com> Message-ID: hi darren reply just b.4 this to your post ok ;) From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk Subject: RE: [kj] [OT] Magazine Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:28:39 +0000 hi darren---yeah polanski did recieve alot of bad press because of his private life-i personally found his antics which you mentioned to be well out of order ;/as you said--pervert--having said that i also loved frantic--harrisons desperate attemps to find his wife actually made me laugh--sorry i was amused by his acting skills he deserved an oscar for it ;) china town was ok i like jack nicholson in any film reallyppnever seen oliver ot pirates yet. tess is beautifully film ;) rosamarys baby freaked me out ;( lol milindafgrant ps how about oliver reeds role in--the devils? not a polanski i dont think but i thought was very good--forget the directors name though ;) actually its on the tip of my tounge ggggggg annoying;P From: dpeace at bigfoot.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 03:08:02 +0000 Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine Apart from ?Pirates?, ?What?? and that awful ?Oliver Twist? he did recently. My favourite Polanski is ?The Tenant?, and I?m also a huge fan of ?Repulsion?, ?Chinatown?, ?Tess?, ?Knife In The Water?, ?Frantic?, ?Bitter Moon?, ?Rosemary?s Baby? (in fact, when I was last in NY, I skulked around the Dakota building like a weirdo, amidst all the glum Lennon devotees, who were disappointed that I was looking for ?Rosemary?s Baby? camera angles rather than forlornly looking for bloodstains on the ? erm ? sidewalk). I also like ?The Pianist?, and the daft Devil book one with that Depp fellow. Oh, and ?The Fearless Vampire Killers?. And even ?Cul de Sac?. Donald Pleasence in drag? Count me in. His ?Macbeth? is great too, as is ?Death & The Maiden?. He?s a great film-maker, whose unfortunate tendency to molest under-age girls in Jack Nicholson?s Jacuzzi rather spoils things. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of melinda grant Sent: 17 February 2009 19:47 To: thegathering mailing list Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine hi karen ;) happy viewing any polanski movie your mind will be truly stimulated ;D milindafgrant Get Hotmail on your mobile from Vodafone Try it Now _________________________________________________________________ Discover Bird's Eye View now with Multimap from Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354026/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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So, if you're not > really into them, but you know -let's say- the basics, you'll enjoy the > gig. >
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It's weird, but actually Iron Maiden are coming back to Mexico next > month i think. They sold out the previous dates, and the stage they used > wasn't the "main stage" they use to install in other coutries (it's common > that bands that come to Mexico don't bring "the whole show-stage" with > them), so i think it's a good business to return, now with the "main and > more spectacular stage". But i'm not going to see them again though. >
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I'm seeing NIN on Monday back in New Zealan.(to be honest I've been >

listening to them a bit lately and I still don't really "get it" > but so many >

people who like what I like, like them, so.do the math. We'll > see.and I'm >

catching Iron Maiden the following Friday, they're in a similar > boat >

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wow--thanks mighty tb-- for that info--janes and nine inch nails > playing >

together-on same bill--just hope they make it to the u. play any > gig around >

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> Monday night around 10 - 11pm at Echoplex in LA. You need to > sign up on >

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> offical Jane's site to be a member and get an e-mail > notification you're >

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> the "list" to get in the show. The club holds about 700 people > so it's >

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> this Spring/Summer with Jane's Addiction and Nine Inch Nails. > Jane's is >

> apparantly recording new music with Trent Reznor in Reznor's > studio. The >

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> _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From saulomar1 at yahoo.com Thu Feb 19 15:58:54 2009 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:58:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks References: Message-ID: <636566.55057.qm@web110206.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> hello hello,? testing 's this mike still on? ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things..] ? 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? ________________________________ From: fluw To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 8:29:14 AM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks Leary is so pedestrian, he has never said anything profound or clever. Most of his schtick is being a grumpy amer-irish boy and saying things that grumpy knuckle heads who buy too much coffee like to hear. His talent limits him to a regional east coast niche. ?? ? ________________________________ From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexander Smith Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 6:15 AM To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks ? ? Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks was capable of being. I love both, but it's not really a fair comparison.? ? Alex in NYC ? ? ? On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote: Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone? Temple? Pilots?? ? If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=? ? Please show working. ? ________________________________ From:?gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]?On Behalf Of?ade Sent:?Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24 To:?A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject:?Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks ? LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;) ? From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is Denis Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because there's no cure for cancer"' -----Original Message----- From:?gathering-bounces at misera.net?[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of?Brendan Quinn Sent:?29 January 2009 04:57 To:?'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject:?Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks The only other comedians I?d put in that category (and none as good as Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who?s a surprising find actually. ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8 ? PS: I haven?t watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but from memory it?s pretty cool. ? ________________________________ From:?gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]?On Behalf Of?Bette Dillinger Sent:?Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34 To:?gathering at misera.net Subject:?[kj] OT: Bill Hicks ? Hey everyone! ??? Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it.? In the US David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the routine of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman?in 1994?because it was considered too "controversial".? The routine that sullied his relationship with the media to a degree.?? ? His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of the estate is the?ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make this shit up.)......... Damn, it has been 14 years!? Are there any comedians that are flying?under the radar that should be checked out?? I am still looking for one whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour. ? Bette??????? ________________________________ size=2 width="100%" align=center> Windows Live?: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect.?Check it out. _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Thu Feb 19 15:59:43 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:59:43 +1300 (NZDT) Subject: [kj] (OT) Another Jane's Addiction Surprise Show in LA In-Reply-To: <3409.124.197.4.147.1235076874.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> References: <20090213114943.HM.0000000000009s7@jagargal.mail-wwl12.bo3.lycos.com.lycos.com> <3409.124.197.4.147.1235076874.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <3626.124.197.4.147.1235077183.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> I just spelled Jaz Jazz. I'm totally losing it, I know. Time to start listening to Norah Jones I suppose... > Cool, I'm going along tonight, unless it's rained out which it could be. > I'm re-familiarising myself with everything on their setlist so I'll be > good to go. I think Iron Maiden must be one of the richest bands in the > universe from the statiums they sell out... > > Ooh that reminds me of the Bruce Dickenson / Jazz interview I heard a > while ago. > >> I saw Iron Maiden on this tour some months ago and let me tell you they >> play a pretty good setlist: 95% old classic songs. So, if you're not >> really into them, but you know -let's say- the basics, you'll enjoy the >> gig. >>
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It's weird, but actually Iron Maiden are coming back to Mexico next >> month i think. They sold out the previous dates, and the stage they used >> wasn't the "main stage" they use to install in other coutries (it's >> common >> that bands that come to Mexico don't bring "the whole show-stage" with >> them), so i think it's a good business to return, now with the "main and >> more spectacular stage". But i'm not going to see them again though. >>
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To : "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the >> band!\)'" <gathering at misera.net>
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I'm seeing NIN on Monday back in New Zealan.(to be honest I've been >>

listening to them a bit lately and I still don't really "get it" >> but so many >>

people who like what I like, like them, so.do the math. We'll >> see.and I'm >>

catching Iron Maiden the following Friday, they're in a similar >> boat >>

actually.) >>

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Behalf Of melinda grant >>

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wow--thanks mighty tb-- for that info--janes and nine inch nails >> playing >>

together-on same bill--just hope they make it to the u. play any >> gig around >>

then,i will be there hopefully ;) >>

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milindafgrant >>

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> From: planetary at socal.rr.com >>

> To: gathering at misera.net >>

> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:19:49 -0800 >>

> Subject: [kj] (OT) Another Jane's Addiction Surprise Show in >> LA >>

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> Monday night around 10 - 11pm at Echoplex in LA. You need to >> sign up on >>

the >>

> offical Jane's site to be a member and get an e-mail >> notification you're >>

on >>

> the "list" to get in the show. The club holds about 700 people >> so it's >>

> going to be a larger show then the past two bar dates. >>

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> http://www.janesaddiction.com/ >>

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> http://www.attheecho.com/ >>

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> Also, it appears at the very least, there will be a >> co-headining >> tour >>

later >>

> this Spring/Summer with Jane's Addiction and Nine Inch Nails. >> Jane's is >>

> apparantly recording new music with Trent Reznor in Reznor's >> studio. The >>

> official NIN website has been posting intriguing photos of >> various Jane's >>

> members working not just with Trent but with the rest of NIN >> as >> well. >>

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>> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From dpeace at bigfoot.com Thu Feb 19 15:59:28 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:59:28 -0000 Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine and movies In-Reply-To: <1448.124.197.4.147.1235041819.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> References: <08C1A17629AF4B0AA67C88DC576AEF76@edweil> <003201c99240$06c53700$144fa500$@com> <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DB9C@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> <1448.124.197.4.147.1235041819.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <009e01c992d4$f71f5e80$e55e1b80$@com> I think that there is an even greater secret cabal of Queen fans here. Most discomfiting. Flash. Aah aah. Darren Hungerford, UK -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Sent: 19 February 2009 11:10 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine and movies Even as a Queen fan I thought the Queen soundtrack to Metropolis was a bit incongruous. Imagine if they'd had Killing Joke do it...Labyrinth would have ruled. If I had any chops with video editing I'd do it myself. From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Thu Feb 19 16:00:52 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:00:52 +1300 (NZDT) Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks In-Reply-To: <636566.55057.qm@web110206.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <636566.55057.qm@web110206.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3671.124.197.4.147.1235077252.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> That's not a mike. Sorry. Um...you should probably wash your hands. > hello hello,?? testing > > 's this mike still on? > > ?? > ... ... ... ... ... ... > > [looking at the current??state of things..] > ?? > 'Save me... > ?? save me??from Tomorrow.. > ?????? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'???? > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: fluw > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 8:29:14 AM > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > > > Leary is so pedestrian, he has never said anything profound or clever. > Most of his schtick is being a grumpy amer-irish boy and saying things > that grumpy knuckle heads who buy too much coffee like to hear. His talent > limits him to a regional east coast niche. ???? > ?? > > ________________________________ > > From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On > Behalf Of Alexander Smith > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 6:15 AM > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > ?? > ?? > Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks was > capable of being. I love both, but it's not really a fair comparison.?? > ?? > Alex in NYC > ?? > ?? > ?? > On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote: > > Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone?? Temple?? Pilots???? > ?? > If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=? > ?? > Please show working. > ?? > > ________________________________ > > From:??gathering-bounces at misera.net > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]??On Behalf Of??ade > Sent:??Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24 > To:??A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > Subject:??Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > ?? > LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;) > ?? > From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's > transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is Denis > Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because there's no cure > for cancer"' > -----Original Message----- > From:??gathering-bounces at misera.net??[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On > Behalf Of??Brendan Quinn > Sent:??29 January 2009 04:57 > To:??'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' > Subject:??Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks > The only other comedians I???d put in that category (and none as good as > Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who???s a surprising > find actually. > ?? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8 > ?? > PS: I haven???t watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but from > memory it???s pretty cool. > ?? > > ________________________________ > > From:??gathering-bounces at misera.net > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]??On Behalf Of??Bette Dillinger > Sent:??Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34 > To:??gathering at misera.net > Subject:??[kj] OT: Bill Hicks > ?? > > Hey everyone! > ?????? Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it.?? In the > US David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the > routine of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman??in 1994??because > it was considered too "controversial".?? The routine that sullied his > relationship with the media to a degree.???? > ?? > His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of > the estate is the??ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't > make this shit up.)......... > Damn, it has been 14 years!?? Are there any comedians that are > flying??under the radar that should be checked out??? I am still looking > for one whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour. > ?? > Bette?????????????? > > ________________________________ > > size=2 width="100%" align=center> > Windows Live???: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect.??Check it > out. > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Thu Feb 19 16:28:24 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:28:24 +1300 (NZDT) Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine and movies In-Reply-To: <009e01c992d4$f71f5e80$e55e1b80$@com> References: <08C1A17629AF4B0AA67C88DC576AEF76@edweil> <003201c99240$06c53700$144fa500$@com> <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DB9C@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> <1448.124.197.4.147.1235041819.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <009e01c992d4$f71f5e80$e55e1b80$@com> Message-ID: <4843.124.197.4.147.1235078904.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> No one-piece leotard and cape for you then. > I think that there is an even greater secret cabal of Queen fans here. > Most > discomfiting. > > Flash. Aah aah. > > Darren > Hungerford, UK > > -----Original Message----- > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > On > Behalf Of Brendan > Sent: 19 February 2009 11:10 > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine and movies > > Even as a Queen fan I thought the Queen soundtrack to Metropolis was a bit > incongruous. Imagine if they'd had Killing Joke do it...Labyrinth would > have ruled. If I had any chops with video editing I'd do it myself. > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From dpeace at bigfoot.com Thu Feb 19 16:37:30 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:37:30 -0000 Subject: [kj] (OT) Another Jane's Addiction Surprise Show in LA In-Reply-To: <3626.124.197.4.147.1235077183.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> References: <20090213114943.HM.0000000000009s7@jagargal.mail-wwl12.bo3.lycos.com.lycos.com> <3409.124.197.4.147.1235076874.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <3626.124.197.4.147.1235077183.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <00a801c992da$458575f0$d09061d0$@com> Could be worse. I saw it spelled Jizz in a blog post recently. Darren Hungerford, UK -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Sent: 19 February 2009 21:00 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Another Jane's Addiction Surprise Show in LA I just spelled Jaz Jazz. I'm totally losing it, I know. Time to start listening to Norah Jones I suppose... From dpeace at bigfoot.com Thu Feb 19 16:39:14 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:39:14 -0000 Subject: [kj] Bumped! In-Reply-To: <14762.7688.qm@web57108.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <14762.7688.qm@web57108.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00a901c992da$82dc95f0$8895c1d0$@com> I think I'm stealing people's mail (as the Dead Kennedys would have said in the halcyon days when they liked each other). I'm getting 3 copies of everything. Must ... sort ... out. Darren Hungerford, UK -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Blazingstar418 Sent: 19 February 2009 16:40 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: [kj] Bumped! Has anyone else been unsubscibed from the list due to "excessive bounces" recently? It's happened to me twice so far this month. A L P _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From dpeace at bigfoot.com Thu Feb 19 17:01:23 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 22:01:23 -0000 Subject: [kj] [OT] Movies In-Reply-To: References: <647395.80710.qm@web25905.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00af01c992dd$9cc05d50$d64117f0$@com> Darren's list (I'm amazed everyone either doesn't like, or has forgotten, Inferno): 1. Profondo Rosso 2. Tenebrae 3. Inferno 4. Suspiria 5. Stendhal (I know, but I saw it in Rome on my honeymoon, and went to a showing at the BFI and met Dario & Asia) 6. Four Flies 7. Bird 8. Cat 9. Phenomena 10. Opera 11. Nonhosonno .. .. .. 99999999998. The Card Player 99999999999. Phantom Of The Opera Darren Hungerford, UK -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Bo Krogsgaard Sent: 19 February 2009 15:53 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Movies On 2/19/09, Jim Harper wrote: > Deep Red is also excellent, I agree, although I put it behind Suspiria, Tenebre and The Bird With The Crystal Plumage is my list of favourite. It ranges second for me, after Suspiria. But i love Argento even when he makes a stinker (except for Stendhal). And he sure made one wonderful slut of a daughter :) b _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From dpeace at bigfoot.com Thu Feb 19 17:03:38 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 22:03:38 -0000 Subject: [kj] [OT] Movies In-Reply-To: <799673.27896.qm@web25905.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <799673.27896.qm@web25905.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00b001c992dd$ed2b85d0$c7829170$@com> Sisters! Now you're talking. Although if you're talking the most blatant de Palma Hitchcock rip-offs, I cite Body Double & Obsession. Lang? M. It has to be M. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Jim Harper Sent: 19 February 2009 14:16 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: [kj] [OT] Movies Hitchcock is a director I admire greatly but I don't actually *like* many of his films. At his best- Psycho, Vertigo and The Lodger for me- he's truly incredible, but I've been disappointed by him a number of times. Frenzy is okay but it plays like a film-school graduate directing a broad parody of classic-era Hitchcock; Marnie is so dated now the impact is almost entirely lost; Topaz and Torn Curtain just weak. He does deserve most of the acclaim he's received, but I'll never be a big fan. I don't mind Lang either, particularly the two sound versions of Dr Mabuse and Metropolis. I do like a number of Hitchcock- and Lang-inspired movies though- things like Richard Franklin's Roadgames and Psycho II (both excellent); Brian De Palma's Sisters and Dressed to Kill (back before De Palma's talent dribbled out of his ears); and then some of my all-time favourites: Dario Argento's The Bird With The Crystal Plumage and Suspiria. Everyone who loves film *must* see those two movies, milestones both of them. Jim. NOW AVAILABLE: Flowers From Hell: The Modern Japanese Horror Film, by Jim Harper (Noir Publishing). "Fascinating overview of the Japanese horror boom... Comprehensive, in-depth and slickly presented."- DVD Monthly. Available from Noir Publishing, Amazon.co.uk, Waterstones and all good bookstores. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpeace at bigfoot.com Thu Feb 19 17:04:50 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 22:04:50 -0000 Subject: [kj] [OT] Movies In-Reply-To: References: <647395.80710.qm@web25905.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00b501c992de$18d27310$4a775930$@com> Who? Fiore? :) And if stinkers are the yardstick, I'd give it at least three hours before watching "Phantom Of The Opera". Darren Hungerford, UK -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Bo Krogsgaard Sent: 19 February 2009 15:53 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Movies On 2/19/09, Jim Harper wrote: > Deep Red is also excellent, I agree, although I put it behind Suspiria, Tenebre and The Bird With The Crystal Plumage is my list of favourite. It ranges second for me, after Suspiria. But i love Argento even when he makes a stinker (except for Stendhal). And he sure made one wonderful slut of a daughter :) b _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Feb 19 17:11:42 2009 From: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk (Jim Harper) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 22:11:42 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] [OT] Movies In-Reply-To: <00af01c992dd$9cc05d50$d64117f0$@com> Message-ID: <51294.98770.qm@web25906.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Okay here goes then: ? 1. Suspiria 2. Tenebre 3. Bird 4. Deep Red 5. Inferno 6. Opera ? I haven't seen Four Flies yet (yes, I know), and I haven't watched any of the others in the past few years. Phenomena will never be welcome in my house again. ? Jim. --- On Thu, 19/2/09, Darren A. Peace wrote: From: Darren A. Peace Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Movies To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" Date: Thursday, 19 February, 2009, 10:01 PM Darren's list (I'm amazed everyone either doesn't like, or has forgotten, Inferno): 1. Profondo Rosso 2. Tenebrae 3. Inferno 4. Suspiria 5. Stendhal (I know, but I saw it in Rome on my honeymoon, and went to a showing at the BFI and met Dario & Asia) 6. Four Flies 7. Bird 8. Cat 9. Phenomena 10. Opera 11. Nonhosonno .. .. .. 99999999998. The Card Player 99999999999. Phantom Of The Opera Darren Hungerford, UK -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Bo Krogsgaard Sent: 19 February 2009 15:53 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Movies On 2/19/09, Jim Harper wrote: > Deep Red is also excellent, I agree, although I put it behind Suspiria, Tenebre and The Bird With The Crystal Plumage is my list of favourite. It ranges second for me, after Suspiria. But i love Argento even when he makes a stinker (except for Stendhal). And he sure made one wonderful slut of a daughter :) b _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Jim Harper Sent: 19 February 2009 14:16 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: [kj] [OT] Movies Hitchcock is a director I admire greatly but I don't actually *like* many of his films. At his best- Psycho, Vertigo and The Lodger for me- he's truly incredible, but I've been disappointed by him a number of times. Frenzy is okay but it plays like a film-school graduate directing a broad parody of classic-era Hitchcock; Marnie is so dated now the impact is almost entirely lost; Topaz and Torn Curtain just weak. He does deserve most of the acclaim he's received, but I'll never be a big fan. I don't mind Lang either, particularly the two sound versions of Dr Mabuse and Metropolis. I do like a number of Hitchcock- and Lang-inspired movies though- things like Richard Franklin's Roadgames and Psycho II (both excellent); Brian De Palma's Sisters and Dressed to Kill (back before De Palma's talent dribbled out of his ears); and then some of my all-time favourites: Dario Argento's The Bird With The Crystal Plumage and Suspiria. Everyone who loves film *must* see those two movies, milestones both of them. Jim. NOW AVAILABLE: Flowers From Hell: The Modern Japanese Horror Film, by Jim Harper (Noir Publishing). "Fascinating overview of the Japanese horror boom... Comprehensive, in-depth and slickly presented."- DVD Monthly. Available from Noir Publishing, Amazon.co.uk, Waterstones and all good bookstores. _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows connects the people, information, and fun that are part of your life. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093175mrt/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bettedillinger at live.com Thu Feb 19 19:05:35 2009 From: bettedillinger at live.com (Bette Dillinger) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:05:35 -0500 Subject: [kj] Hitchcock In-Reply-To: References: <13600306.1235056116959.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <008601c992c7$935cced0$ba166c70$@com> Message-ID: I think his personality made the most impact on me. Sorry, that is when I think the shark has been jumped; his "Alfred Hitchcock Presents" and all that jazz (har). The one movie I thought had real promise was.....what was it called....."Strangers on A Train"? I have seen so many of his movies, enjoy the cool blondes, the weird music, etc, but not a fave. Is there a huge fan who can explain his endurance or lack thereof? Really curious. > Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:29:59 +0100 > From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com > To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] Hitchcock > > Apart from Vertigo, i think The Birds made the largest visual impact on me. > > > b > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Thu Feb 19 19:31:34 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:31:34 -0800 Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine and movies References: <08C1A17629AF4B0AA67C88DC576AEF76@edweil> <003201c99240$06c53700$144fa500$@com> <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DB9C@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> <1448.124.197.4.147.1235041819.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <009e01c992d4$f71f5e80$e55e1b80$@com> Message-ID: " ... he'll save everyone of us!" ; ) k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren A. Peace" To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine and movies >I think that there is an even greater secret cabal of Queen fans here. Most > discomfiting. > > Flash. Aah aah. > > Darren > Hungerford, UK > > -----Original Message----- > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > On > Behalf Of Brendan > Sent: 19 February 2009 11:10 > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine and movies > > Even as a Queen fan I thought the Queen soundtrack to Metropolis was a bit > incongruous. Imagine if they'd had Killing Joke do it...Labyrinth would > have ruled. If I had any chops with video editing I'd do it myself. > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From bettedillinger at live.com Thu Feb 19 19:44:03 2009 From: bettedillinger at live.com (Bette Dillinger) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:44:03 -0500 Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine In-Reply-To: <0CE2FADC2C6D4839A8CDD5D245D98CEC@edweil> References: <1646350c0902110602r58ba2471ob9f4a0c4191181d0@mail.gmail.com><00ee01c98cab$8a2b0060$9e810120$@com><10D19D34B7DD41C6B4BF2988EB9725B7@edweil> <002d01c9923f$51ef6c10$f5ce4430$@com> <0CE2FADC2C6D4839A8CDD5D245D98CEC@edweil> Message-ID: I actually did not finish watching "Frantic", I just was annoyed. His future wife (Polanski's), really beautiful French woman, was in it, but I just couldn't stand it. I would think with that Oscar for Best Director (with accompanied standing ovation for "The Pianist"...I think he got it that year?????) he's back in business very nicely. However, I feel he should be in a bizarre reality show: a real life version of "No Exit" with Denis Leary. Whose with this amazing populist idea? ;) From: karen.weil at sddt.com To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; gathering at misera.net Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:19:21 -0800 Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine Also, I think "Frantic" (from '88) is underrated. Really like that movie. As for Polanski's scandalous past, that might be resolved in the near future. (Given how Woody Allen still continues to work in spite of his really wretched personal decision to have an affair with his step-daughter, nothing is impossible). k.w. ----- Original Message ---- From: Darren A. Peace To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine Apart from ?Pirates?, ?What?? and that awful ?Oliver Twist? he did recently. My favourite Polanski is ?The Tenant?, and I?m also a huge fan of ?Repulsion?, ?Chinatown?, ?Tess?, ?Knife In The Water?, ?Frantic?, ?Bitter Moon?, ?Rosemary?s Baby? (in fact, when I was last in NY, I skulked around the Dakota building like a weirdo, amidst all the glum Lennon devotees, who were disappointed that I was looking for ?Rosemary?s Baby? camera angles rather than forlornly looking for bloodstains on the ? erm ? sidewalk). I also like ?The Pianist?, and the daft Devil book one with that Depp fellow. Oh, and ?The Fearless Vampire Killers?. And even ?Cul de Sac?. Donald Pleasence in drag? Count me in. His ?Macbeth? is great too, as is ?Death & The Maiden?. He?s a great film-maker, whose unfortunate tendency to molest under-age girls in Jack Nicholson?s Jacuzzi rather spoils things. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of melinda grant Sent: 17 February 2009 19:47 To: thegathering mailing list Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine hi karen ;) happy viewing any polanski movie your mind will be truly stimulated ;D milindafgrant _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn ?10 hidden secrets? from Jamie. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vassifer at earthlink.net Thu Feb 19 19:46:40 2009 From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alexander Smith) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:46:40 -0500 Subject: [kj] [OT] Queen-bashing...PAH! In-Reply-To: References: <08C1A17629AF4B0AA67C88DC576AEF76@edweil> <003201c99240$06c53700$144fa500$@com> <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DB9C@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> <1448.124.197.4.147.1235041819.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <009e01c992d4$f71f5e80$e55e1b80$@com> Message-ID: Alex in NYC's Favorite Queen Tunes of All Time. 1. "The Prophet's Song" 2. "Sheer Heart Attack" 3. "Fight From the Inside" 4. "Dragon Attack" 5. "Death on Two Legs" 6. "Now I'm Here" 7. "We Will Rock You" 8. "`39" 9. "Liar" 10. "I'm in Love with My Car" Screw the haters. Alex in NYC On Feb 19, 2009, at 7:31 PM, Karen Weil wrote: > " ... he'll save everyone of us!" ; ) > > k.w. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren A. Peace" > > To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" > > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:59 PM > Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine and movies > > >> I think that there is an even greater secret cabal of Queen fans >> here. Most >> discomfiting. >> >> Flash. Aah aah. >> >> Darren >> Hungerford, UK >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net >> ] On >> Behalf Of Brendan >> Sent: 19 February 2009 11:10 >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) >> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine and movies >> >> Even as a Queen fan I thought the Queen soundtrack to Metropolis >> was a bit >> incongruous. Imagine if they'd had Killing Joke do it...Labyrinth >> would >> have ruled. If I had any chops with video editing I'd do it myself. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From vassifer at earthlink.net Thu Feb 19 19:47:52 2009 From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alexander Smith) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:47:52 -0500 Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine In-Reply-To: References: <1646350c0902110602r58ba2471ob9f4a0c4191181d0@mail.gmail.com><00ee01c98cab$8a2b0060$9e810120$@com><10D19D34B7DD41C6B4BF2988EB9725B7@edweil> <002d01c9923f$51ef6c10$f5ce4430$@com> <0CE2FADC2C6D4839A8CDD5D245D98CEC@edweil> Message-ID: <88C2BBE7-001E-459B-916E-6FFCF3A862BA@earthlink.net> Are you serious? I loved "Frantic" -- was was your problem with it? Not picking a fight, I'm just curious. Alex in NYC On Feb 19, 2009, at 7:44 PM, Bette Dillinger wrote: > I actually did not finish watching "Frantic", I just was annoyed. > His future wife (Polanski's), really beautiful French woman, was in > it, but I just couldn't stand it. > > I would think with that Oscar for Best Director (with accompanied > standing ovation for "The Pianist"...I think he got it that > year?????) he's back in business very nicely. However, I feel he > should be in a bizarre reality show: a real life version of "No > Exit" with Denis Leary. Whose with this amazing populist idea? ;) > > From: karen.weil at sddt.com > To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; gathering at misera.net > Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:19:21 -0800 > Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine > > Also, I think "Frantic" (from '88) is underrated. Really like that > movie. > As for Polanski's scandalous past, that might be resolved in the > near future. (Given how Woody Allen still continues to work in > spite of his really wretched personal decision to have an affair > with his step-daughter, nothing is impossible). > > k.w. > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Darren A. Peace > To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' > Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:08 PM > Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine > > Apart from ?Pirates?, ?What?? and that awful ?Oliver Twist? he did > recently. > > My favourite Polanski is ?The Tenant?, and I?m also a huge fan of > ?Repulsion?, ?Chinatown?, ?Tess?, ?Knife In The Water?, ?Frantic?, > ?Bitter Moon?, ?Rosemary?s Baby? (in fact, when I was last in NY, I > skulked around the Dakota building like a weirdo, amidst all the > glum Lennon devotees, who were disappointed that I was looking for > ?Rosemary?s Baby? camera angles rather than forlornly looking for > bloodstains on the ? erm ? sidewalk). I also like ?The Pianist?, and > the daft Devil book one with that Depp fellow. Oh, and ?The Fearless > Vampire Killers?. And even ?Cul de Sac?. Donald Pleasence in drag? > Count me in. His ?Macbeth? is great too, as is ?Death & The Maiden?. > > He?s a great film-maker, whose unfortunate tendency to molest under- > age girls in Jack Nicholson?s Jacuzzi rather spoils things. > > Darren > Hungerford, UK > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net > ] On Behalf Of melinda grant > Sent: 17 February 2009 19:47 > To: thegathering mailing list > Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine > > hi karen ;) happy viewing any polanski movie your mind will be truly > stimulated ;D > > milindafgrant > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn ?10 hidden secrets? from > Jamie. Learn Now _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bettedillinger at live.com Thu Feb 19 19:48:01 2009 From: bettedillinger at live.com (Bette Dillinger) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:48:01 -0500 Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine and movies In-Reply-To: References: <08C1A17629AF4B0AA67C88DC576AEF76@edweil> <003201c99240$06c53700$144fa500$@com> <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DB9C@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> <1448.124.197.4.147.1235041819.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: Hey now! He's still doing his thing. Sad day when we have to start explaining who our heroes are.......but I am prepared. Trying to describe the revelance of Lux Interior and what a brilliant performer he was to ANYONE has shored up my meddle. From: folk.devil at hotmail.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 08:24:26 -0800 Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine and movies Jeff Mills (old Detroit Techno artist) did a pretty good interpretation of the Metropolis soundtrack. > Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 00:10:19 +1300 > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine and movies > > Even as a Queen fan I thought the Queen soundtrack to Metropolis was a bit > incongruous. Imagine if they'd had Killing Joke do it...Labyrinth would > have ruled. If I had any chops with video editing I'd do it myself. > Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn ?10 hidden secrets? from Jamie. Learn Now _________________________________________________________________ Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Thu Feb 19 19:51:05 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:51:05 -0800 Subject: [kj] [OT] Queen-bashing...PAH! References: <08C1A17629AF4B0AA67C88DC576AEF76@edweil> <003201c99240$06c53700$144fa500$@com> <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DB9C@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> <1448.124.197.4.147.1235041819.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><009e01c992d4$f71f5e80$e55e1b80$@com> Message-ID: <90485A682007484F9E62F43F14A2C88A@edweil> Where's "Tie Your Mother Down," "Dragon Attack," dude? (love those, too!) Cheers, k.w. (fellow Queen fan whose first album was "The Game") ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexander Smith" To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Queen-bashing...PAH! > > Alex in NYC's Favorite Queen Tunes of All Time. > > 1. "The Prophet's Song" > 2. "Sheer Heart Attack" > 3. "Fight From the Inside" > 4. "Dragon Attack" > 5. "Death on Two Legs" > 6. "Now I'm Here" > 7. "We Will Rock You" > 8. "`39" > 9. "Liar" > 10. "I'm in Love with My Car" > > Screw the haters. > > Alex in NYC > > > On Feb 19, 2009, at 7:31 PM, Karen Weil wrote: > >> " ... he'll save everyone of us!" ; ) >> >> k.w. >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren A. Peace" > > >> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" >> > > >> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:59 PM >> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine and movies >> >> >>> I think that there is an even greater secret cabal of Queen fans here. >>> Most >>> discomfiting. >>> >>> Flash. Aah aah. >>> >>> Darren >>> Hungerford, UK >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net >>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net ] On >>> Behalf Of Brendan >>> Sent: 19 February 2009 11:10 >>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) >>> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine and movies >>> >>> Even as a Queen fan I thought the Queen soundtrack to Metropolis was a >>> bit >>> incongruous. Imagine if they'd had Killing Joke do it...Labyrinth would >>> have ruled. If I had any chops with video editing I'd do it myself. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gathering mailing list >>> Gathering at misera.net >>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From bettedillinger at live.com Thu Feb 19 19:52:43 2009 From: bettedillinger at live.com (Bette Dillinger) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:52:43 -0500 Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine In-Reply-To: <88C2BBE7-001E-459B-916E-6FFCF3A862BA@earthlink.net> References: <1646350c0902110602r58ba2471ob9f4a0c4191181d0@mail.gmail.com><00ee01c98cab$8a2b0060$9e810120$@com><10D19D34B7DD41C6B4BF2988EB9725B7@edweil> <002d01c9923f$51ef6c10$f5ce4430$@com> <0CE2FADC2C6D4839A8CDD5D245D98CEC@edweil> <88C2BBE7-001E-459B-916E-6FFCF3A862BA@earthlink.net> Message-ID: You fight picker! Hey, Alex, honestly, I would have to see it again and do some homework on it. I just remember both myself and the person I was with turned it off. Also, I think the fact that it was Roman Polanski, and he is such a great director was the biggest factor. It just didn't seem to be his style. But now you make me wanna give it a try again. I have sat through "Ishtar" without turning it off...maybe I can get through it this time. From: vassifer at earthlink.net To: gathering at misera.net Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:47:52 -0500 Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine Are you serious? I loved "Frantic" -- was was your problem with it? Not picking a fight, I'm just curious. Alex in NYC On Feb 19, 2009, at 7:44 PM, Bette Dillinger wrote: I actually did not finish watching "Frantic", I just was annoyed. His future wife (Polanski's), really beautiful French woman, was in it, but I just couldn't stand it. I would think with that Oscar for Best Director (with accompanied standing ovation for "The Pianist"...I think he got it that year?????) he's back in business very nicely. However, I feel he should be in a bizarre reality show: a real life version of "No Exit" with Denis Leary. Whose with this amazing populist idea? ;) From: karen.weil at sddt.com To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; gathering at misera.net Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:19:21 -0800 Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine Also, I think "Frantic" (from '88) is underrated. Really like that movie. As for Polanski's scandalous past, that might be resolved in the near future. (Given how Woody Allen still continues to work in spite of his really wretched personal decision to have an affair with his step-daughter, nothing is impossible). k.w. ----- Original Message ---- From: Darren A. Peace To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine Apart from ?Pirates?, ?What?? and that awful ?Oliver Twist? he did recently. My favourite Polanski is ?The Tenant?, and I?m also a huge fan of ?Repulsion?, ?Chinatown?, ?Tess?, ?Knife In The Water?, ?Frantic?, ?Bitter Moon?, ?Rosemary?s Baby? (in fact, when I was last in NY, I skulked around the Dakota building like a weirdo, amidst all the glum Lennon devotees, who were disappointed that I was looking for ?Rosemary?s Baby? camera angles rather than forlornly looking for bloodstains on the ? erm ? sidewalk). I also like ?The Pianist?, and the daft Devil book one with that Depp fellow. Oh, and ?The Fearless Vampire Killers?. And even ?Cul de Sac?. Donald Pleasence in drag? Count me in. His ?Macbeth? is great too, as is ?Death & The Maiden?. He?s a great film-maker, whose unfortunate tendency to molest under-age girls in Jack Nicholson?s Jacuzzi rather spoils things. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of melinda grant Sent: 17 February 2009 19:47 To: thegathering mailing list Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine hi karen ;) happy viewing any polanski movie your mind will be truly stimulated ;D milindafgrant _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn ?10 hidden secrets? from Jamie. Learn Now _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn ?10 hidden secrets? from Jamie. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Thu Feb 19 20:01:04 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:01:04 -0800 Subject: [kj] [OT] Queen-bashing...PAH! References: <08C1A17629AF4B0AA67C88DC576AEF76@edweil> <003201c99240$06c53700$144fa500$@com> <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DB9C@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> <1448.124.197.4.147.1235041819.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><009e01c992d4$f71f5e80$e55e1b80$@com> Message-ID: <7F39A5F553234C24B9E8D22B04267427@edweil> Ooops -- I see you already had "Dragon," at No. 4. My inattention! k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexander Smith" To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Queen-bashing...PAH! > > Alex in NYC's Favorite Queen Tunes of All Time. > > 1. "The Prophet's Song" > 2. "Sheer Heart Attack" > 3. "Fight From the Inside" > 4. "Dragon Attack" > 5. "Death on Two Legs" > 6. "Now I'm Here" > 7. "We Will Rock You" > 8. "`39" > 9. "Liar" > 10. "I'm in Love with My Car" > > Screw the haters. > > Alex in NYC > > > On Feb 19, 2009, at 7:31 PM, Karen Weil wrote: > >> " ... he'll save everyone of us!" ; ) >> >> k.w. >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren A. Peace" > > >> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" >> > > >> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:59 PM >> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine and movies >> >> >>> I think that there is an even greater secret cabal of Queen fans here. >>> Most >>> discomfiting. >>> >>> Flash. Aah aah. >>> >>> Darren >>> Hungerford, UK >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net >>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net ] On >>> Behalf Of Brendan >>> Sent: 19 February 2009 11:10 >>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) >>> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine and movies >>> >>> Even as a Queen fan I thought the Queen soundtrack to Metropolis was a >>> bit >>> incongruous. Imagine if they'd had Killing Joke do it...Labyrinth would >>> have ruled. If I had any chops with video editing I'd do it myself. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gathering mailing list >>> Gathering at misera.net >>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From bettedillinger at live.com Thu Feb 19 20:03:44 2009 From: bettedillinger at live.com (Bette Dillinger) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:03:44 -0500 Subject: [kj] [OT]Orson Welles, Kubrick In-Reply-To: References: <08C1A17629AF4B0AA67C88DC576AEF76@edweil> <003201c99240$06c53700$144fa500$@com> <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DB9C@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> Message-ID: Have you seen "The Wonderful Terrible Life of Leni Riefenstahl"? Fascinating documentary. She is about 90 in the film, and has this young stud as her assistant. Her answers to the obvious questions she is asked are strange and therefore riveting. One of my faves of all time is Orson Welles. Has anyone seen "F is for Fake"? It is such a great examination of how some people are considered "experts" when others are "imposters". If any of you have seen his version of "MacBeth" or especially Kafka's "The Trial" I salute you. But the man with the plan over his entire lifespan is Stanley Kubrick. I heart Kubrick from "Killer's Kiss" to "Full Metal Jacket". "Eyes Wide Shut".......I read the novella, it had no bearing on the final outcome and I have always been cynical about that film. > Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:02:55 +0100 > From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine and movies > > When it comes to old movies, i worship Fritz Lang for his two > masterpieces M and Metropolis. Also Sergei Eisenstein and Friedrich > Murnau, and even Leni Riefenstahl. > > Alfred Hitchcock, yes please, especially Vertigo is visually > impressive. But i'd take an Orson Welles movie over a Hitchcock movie > any day, especially The Trial, which to me is how a movie can be taken > to perfection. > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows connects the people, information, and fun that are part of your life. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093175mrt/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bettedillinger at live.com Thu Feb 19 20:46:25 2009 From: bettedillinger at live.com (Bette Dillinger) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:46:25 -0500 Subject: [kj] (OT) NIN In-Reply-To: <3074.124.197.4.147.1234913868.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> References: <07C24E45F260487D9E4A154023DED4B5@Bell2007PC> <3074.124.197.4.147.1234913868.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: I read in one review that Trent Reznor is an heir to a large fortune. I am not saying money is happiness, but it does make a nice down payment. Do any of the musos floating around here know what he is heir to? It is something electrical (I am *so* technical in my descriptions, I know)........ > Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 12:37:48 +1300 > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Jane's Addiction at Echoplex in LA Last Night > > Gonna be 'interesting' to see how the NIN / Jane's Addiction shows pan out. > > My impressions of last night's NIN gig: > > Meh. With the emphasis on the 'eh'. > > I TRIED to like NIN. I went to all the effort of stealing Trentnor's > life's work, listening to it on train and plane journeys, walking in to > work and feeling incongruously anti-social (and anachronistic) while > docile passersby passed by, oblivious to the fact that I was listening to > something that sounded like a hardcore remake of the Metropolis soundtrack > (1994 Crack Remix). > > ...familiarised myself with Pretty Hate Machine (I passed on the 2/3 of > his album collection where he remixes his own stuff?yawn), which I had > never picked up before because of the awful name. > > So I was relatively familiar with NIN, at least moreso than previously, > when my appreciation was limited to the Quake soundtrack (sounds like Tool > lite) and "that song that Johnny Cash does better." And Perfect > Drug...which always had me scratching my head as to why it was on such > high rotate. (Surely these guys do better stuff than this?) > > The opening band's promo photo looked so shit I didn't even bother > listening to anything online to see what they were like. (This admittedly > renders the rest of my review useless due to extreme prejudice but > hey...just being honest. Don't pretend you're not the same). > > NIN - sound quality was mildly mucky, not awful, and probably not their > fault. Smallish crowd for the venue (half to two thirds of the ~10 000 > seat venue filled). Good light show, basic but good impact. Overall...some > pretty solid material. A fair bit of it sounds samey to me, and I really > wouldn?t rate them up there with their 90s contemporaries (Soundgarden, > Tool, Rage Against the Machine, Ministry) for impact, depth, breadth, or > range. Anyway, a *relatively* solid gig, but a few things gave away that > it was a phone-in, in a disappointing way. Practically no acknowledgement > of the crowd, no encore, and ?this is probably going to be our last show > in New Zealand" quoth Trentnor half-way through, in one of the perhaps two > times he deigned to address the audience. Seemed to fuck half the audience > off, and rightly so. That was it, not "hey this might be the last time I > play here so let's rip shit up." More like..."this is probably the last > time I'm gonna fuck you up the ass, not sure if I can come, anyway, just > thought I'd share...FYI. Now breathe out and clench." > > Yeah no worries, thanks for the newsflash, it's certainly gonna be the > last time you get any money from me (I bought 2 tix), and a lot of others > in the crowd like me who have seen better, more considerate bands try to > disguise a phone-in, or dredge up enough energy from the crowd to find > some reason to enjoy being there. > > No encore despite most of the crowd giving it heaps for 10 mins, futiley > as the stage was dismantled immediately the black-clad phoners in left. > > That was the more objective impression. This is what part of me really > thinks: > > Go home and polish your Grammys and play Hurt to yourself on your synth > you never-really-has-been. There's a reason I wasn't into NIN and I'm glad > I had my suspicions confirmed. 80% of their songs sound the same. Sub par > lyrics, predictable anthems for 14-year old sexually ambivalent teens to > half-heartedly self-harm to in the privacy of their bedrooms in between > Evanescence CDs. > > Note to self: Don't ever bend over backwards trying to like something you > don't. > > > Jane's Addiction, reunited with original bass player Eric Avery has been > > doing a few low key warm-up bar and club shows in LA the past few months > > before they go out on tour with Nine Inch Nails in late Spring. I caught > > last night's show at the Echoplex club which was their third appearance > > together since all four members began working together again. > > > > It turned out to be an excellent if short show, mostly better than the > > tiny > > El Cid bar show #2 which I caught last December. Only things I think El > > Cid > > was marginally better was being a tiny club, much more intense energy from > > the crowd that show. I think Perry sounded better there as well. > > > > It had been raining really hard much of the day in Southern California and > > I > > was really on the fence about going or not right up to about 6pm. I went > > for it and got to the Echoplex (in Echo Park) around 8:15 and a huge line > > of 200 - 300 people was winding along the building and it quickly because > > obvious some people didn't have or even know about the RSVP thing. Light > > rain had just stopped and it was cool but at least dry. The line started > > moving as they left small groups of about 10 - 15 people in at a time to > > get > > their ID checked for a wristband, then get their ID checked against a list > > at the door from the website registration rsvps. Saw a couple people > > turned > > away in front of me but later saw them inside so its possible they had > > enough room for people who basically walked up to see the show after the > > majority of RSVP'ers got in. Considering my own feelings this method of > > getting people in the show could have turned into a real mess, it seems > > like > > it turned out to be well run with few problems. > > > > My first time at Echoplex. Kind of a weird room, the mixing desk kinda > > bisects the club in half so if your in the back, you gotta stand on some > > boxes to get a decent view. Pretty laid back, almost too mellow of a > > crowd > > especially for the opening band "Dot," which was kind of a more ambient, > > dissonant noise version of Secret Machines. Band shows some promise, but > > the singer was hardly audible, partly because he rarely projected himself > > but moreso because the vocals were mixed way too far down (same for Perry > > during Jane's set). They got a decent response from the crowd, more > > respect > > than actual adoration. Frankly, I thought they were boring. > > > > There was a long wait, made somewhat manageable by the selections whoever > > was DJ'ing played a good amount of Killing Joke ("Change"), Bauhaus, > > Cramps > > ("New Kind Of Kick" got a huge response), Bowie and a few other favs on > > the > > PA. > > > > About 11:15, Jane's strolled on the stage and ground into Up The Beach. I > > think it was played half a step down and a bit slower. Eric had more room > > to > > prowl and stomp tonight so he'd either be doing his tribal stomp to songs > > like Mountain Song or Ocean Size or locked into his zone often staring up > > at > > the ceiling playing Pigs in Zen. Tonight, Dave was more on the mark most > > of > > the show that the 2nd show, Perkins was simply 100% a precision human > > piledriver. The man is simply an incredible drummer. Perry unfortunately > > I > > have to say was the weak link. Not a lot of power in his voice, didn't > > really make a lot of use of his little echo toolbox and took a lot longer > > than the rest of the band to loosen up as the set progressed. I will say > > when they got to Been Caught Stealing, he was up with the rest of the band > > and loosened up enough to bullshit and introduce most of the remaining > > songs. > > > > I do think in a lot of ways this reunion, especially how Perry carries > > himself these days reminds me of the recent David Lee Roth/Van Halen > > reunion > > in the way both frontmen have dropped the more manic, physical aspect of > > their stage persona due to age and are more like Vegas car dealers doing > > their shtick for the rubes. At times, Perry was genuinely funny but when > > he > > used forced, awkward analogies to introduce each of the last few songs, it > > got hackneyed. > > > > Most of the songs from a performance standpoint sounded excellent. > > Mountain > > Song is played by Dave a bit differently now, a bit more RAWK! like > > someone > > like Billy Duffy would play the tune. The band was very tight with one > > major > > exception. The only song I thought kinda missed the mark was the one I was > > most excited to hear, Ted, which lacked an "edge" it's had in the past and > > never really got out of third gear and came close to falling apart the > > last > > couple minutes as the band kind of careened a bit out of time with each > > other. > > > > But I'll tell you what, "Stop" was fucking perfect. Clearly the best > > performed song of the set and got great audience participation. "Had a > > Dad" > > and "Ocean Size" ended the 2 song encore and the short barely hour long > > set > > was done. > > > >>From a crowd standpoint, the asshole factor was low but there were a few > > lobcocks who'd careen around like big, sweaty, smelly dreidels. One > > grinning drunk slob who looked like Seth Rogan got hoisted up for some > > crowd > > surfing and got maybe 5 feet before being dumped on the ground like a sack > > of shit. He later wound up getting on the stage on Erics side and then > > flopped off the stage like a beached whale. > > > > All n' all though, a great night even if it was too short and I *really* > > wanted to hear "Three Days." > > > > Setlist: > > > > Up The Beach > > Trip Away (on the setlist but not played) > > Whores > > 1% > > Ain't No Right > > Mountain Song > > Been Caught Stealing > > Ted Just Admit It. > > Stop! > > (encore) > > Had a Dad > > Ocean Size > > > > T.B. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering at misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Thu Feb 19 20:47:06 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:47:06 +1300 (NZDT) Subject: [kj] [OT] Queen-bashing...PAH! In-Reply-To: References: <08C1A17629AF4B0AA67C88DC576AEF76@edweil> <003201c99240$06c53700$144fa500$@com> <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DB9C@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> <1448.124.197.4.147.1235041819.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <009e01c992d4$f71f5e80$e55e1b80$@com> Message-ID: <3803.124.197.4.147.1235094426.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> I'd agree with most of that and throw in Drowse, Tenement Funster, White Queen, March of the Black Queen, Son & Daughter (for the riff), Brighton Rock played live...early Queen was the best. Brian is kinda proto-speed-metalling on this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQjLwspAyX8&feature=related I got a kick out of Brian May contributing lead guitar to a re-recording of Soundgarden's New Damage... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ibd5K68kp5E > > Alex in NYC's Favorite Queen Tunes of All Time. > > 1. "The Prophet's Song" > 2. "Sheer Heart Attack" > 3. "Fight From the Inside" > 4. "Dragon Attack" > 5. "Death on Two Legs" > 6. "Now I'm Here" > 7. "We Will Rock You" > 8. "`39" > 9. "Liar" > 10. "I'm in Love with My Car" > > Screw the haters. > > Alex in NYC > > > On Feb 19, 2009, at 7:31 PM, Karen Weil wrote: > >> " ... he'll save everyone of us!" ; ) >> >> k.w. >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren A. Peace" > > >> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" >> > > >> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:59 PM >> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine and movies >> >> >>> I think that there is an even greater secret cabal of Queen fans >>> here. Most >>> discomfiting. >>> >>> Flash. Aah aah. >>> >>> Darren >>> Hungerford, UK >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net >>> ] On >>> Behalf Of Brendan >>> Sent: 19 February 2009 11:10 >>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) >>> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine and movies >>> >>> Even as a Queen fan I thought the Queen soundtrack to Metropolis >>> was a bit >>> incongruous. Imagine if they'd had Killing Joke do it...Labyrinth >>> would >>> have ruled. If I had any chops with video editing I'd do it myself. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gathering mailing list >>> Gathering at misera.net >>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Thu Feb 19 20:54:41 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:54:41 +1300 (NZDT) Subject: [kj] (OT) NIN In-Reply-To: References: <07C24E45F260487D9E4A154023DED4B5@Bell2007PC> <3074.124.197.4.147.1234913868.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <4100.124.197.4.147.1235094881.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Trentnor reckons he invented alternative music, Lollapaloser, and paved the way for Nirvana: http://www.nin.com/ > > I read in one review that Trent Reznor is an heir to a large fortune. I > am not saying money is happiness, but it does make a nice down payment. > Do any of the musos floating around here know what he is heir to? It is > something electrical (I am *so* technical in my descriptions, I > know)........ > >> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 12:37:48 +1300 >> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz >> To: gathering at misera.net >> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Jane's Addiction at Echoplex in LA Last Night >> >> Gonna be 'interesting' to see how the NIN / Jane's Addiction shows pan >> out. >> >> My impressions of last night's NIN gig: >> >> Meh. With the emphasis on the 'eh'. >> >> I TRIED to like NIN. I went to all the effort of stealing Trentnor's >> life's work, listening to it on train and plane journeys, walking in to >> work and feeling incongruously anti-social (and anachronistic) while >> docile passersby passed by, oblivious to the fact that I was listening >> to >> something that sounded like a hardcore remake of the Metropolis >> soundtrack >> (1994 Crack Remix). >> >> ...familiarised myself with Pretty Hate Machine (I passed on the 2/3 of >> his album collection where he remixes his own stuff yawn), which I had >> never picked up before because of the awful name. >> >> So I was relatively familiar with NIN, at least moreso than previously, >> when my appreciation was limited to the Quake soundtrack (sounds like >> Tool >> lite) and "that song that Johnny Cash does better." And Perfect >> Drug...which always had me scratching my head as to why it was on such >> high rotate. (Surely these guys do better stuff than this?) >> >> The opening band's promo photo looked so shit I didn't even bother >> listening to anything online to see what they were like. (This >> admittedly >> renders the rest of my review useless due to extreme prejudice but >> hey...just being honest. Don't pretend you're not the same). >> >> NIN - sound quality was mildly mucky, not awful, and probably not their >> fault. Smallish crowd for the venue (half to two thirds of the ~10 000 >> seat venue filled). Good light show, basic but good impact. >> Overall...some >> pretty solid material. A fair bit of it sounds samey to me, and I really >> wouldn?t rate them up there with their 90s contemporaries (Soundgarden, >> Tool, Rage Against the Machine, Ministry) for impact, depth, breadth, or >> range. Anyway, a *relatively* solid gig, but a few things gave away that >> it was a phone-in, in a disappointing way. Practically no >> acknowledgement >> of the crowd, no encore, and ?this is probably going to be our last show >> in New Zealand" quoth Trentnor half-way through, in one of the perhaps >> two >> times he deigned to address the audience. Seemed to fuck half the >> audience >> off, and rightly so. That was it, not "hey this might be the last time I >> play here so let's rip shit up." More like..."this is probably the last >> time I'm gonna fuck you up the ass, not sure if I can come, anyway, just >> thought I'd share...FYI. Now breathe out and clench." >> >> Yeah no worries, thanks for the newsflash, it's certainly gonna be the >> last time you get any money from me (I bought 2 tix), and a lot of >> others >> in the crowd like me who have seen better, more considerate bands try to >> disguise a phone-in, or dredge up enough energy from the crowd to find >> some reason to enjoy being there. >> >> No encore despite most of the crowd giving it heaps for 10 mins, futiley >> as the stage was dismantled immediately the black-clad phoners in left. >> >> That was the more objective impression. This is what part of me really >> thinks: >> >> Go home and polish your Grammys and play Hurt to yourself on your synth >> you never-really-has-been. There's a reason I wasn't into NIN and I'm >> glad >> I had my suspicions confirmed. 80% of their songs sound the same. Sub >> par >> lyrics, predictable anthems for 14-year old sexually ambivalent teens to >> half-heartedly self-harm to in the privacy of their bedrooms in between >> Evanescence CDs. >> >> Note to self: Don't ever bend over backwards trying to like something >> you >> don't. >> >> > Jane's Addiction, reunited with original bass player Eric Avery has >> been >> > doing a few low key warm-up bar and club shows in LA the past few >> months >> > before they go out on tour with Nine Inch Nails in late Spring. I >> caught >> > last night's show at the Echoplex club which was their third >> appearance >> > together since all four members began working together again. >> > >> > It turned out to be an excellent if short show, mostly better than the >> > tiny >> > El Cid bar show #2 which I caught last December. Only things I think >> El >> > Cid >> > was marginally better was being a tiny club, much more intense energy >> from >> > the crowd that show. I think Perry sounded better there as well. >> > >> > It had been raining really hard much of the day in Southern California >> and >> > I >> > was really on the fence about going or not right up to about 6pm. I >> went >> > for it and got to the Echoplex (in Echo Park) around 8:15 and a huge >> line >> > of 200 - 300 people was winding along the building and it quickly >> because >> > obvious some people didn't have or even know about the RSVP thing. >> Light >> > rain had just stopped and it was cool but at least dry. The line >> started >> > moving as they left small groups of about 10 - 15 people in at a time >> to >> > get >> > their ID checked for a wristband, then get their ID checked against a >> list >> > at the door from the website registration rsvps. Saw a couple people >> > turned >> > away in front of me but later saw them inside so its possible they had >> > enough room for people who basically walked up to see the show after >> the >> > majority of RSVP'ers got in. Considering my own feelings this method >> of >> > getting people in the show could have turned into a real mess, it >> seems >> > like >> > it turned out to be well run with few problems. >> > >> > My first time at Echoplex. Kind of a weird room, the mixing desk kinda >> > bisects the club in half so if your in the back, you gotta stand on >> some >> > boxes to get a decent view. Pretty laid back, almost too mellow of a >> > crowd >> > especially for the opening band "Dot," which was kind of a more >> ambient, >> > dissonant noise version of Secret Machines. Band shows some promise, >> but >> > the singer was hardly audible, partly because he rarely projected >> himself >> > but moreso because the vocals were mixed way too far down (same for >> Perry >> > during Jane's set). They got a decent response from the crowd, more >> > respect >> > than actual adoration. Frankly, I thought they were boring. >> > >> > There was a long wait, made somewhat manageable by the selections >> whoever >> > was DJ'ing played a good amount of Killing Joke ("Change"), Bauhaus, >> > Cramps >> > ("New Kind Of Kick" got a huge response), Bowie and a few other favs >> on >> > the >> > PA. >> > >> > About 11:15, Jane's strolled on the stage and ground into Up The >> Beach. I >> > think it was played half a step down and a bit slower. Eric had more >> room >> > to >> > prowl and stomp tonight so he'd either be doing his tribal stomp to >> songs >> > like Mountain Song or Ocean Size or locked into his zone often staring >> up >> > at >> > the ceiling playing Pigs in Zen. Tonight, Dave was more on the mark >> most >> > of >> > the show that the 2nd show, Perkins was simply 100% a precision human >> > piledriver. The man is simply an incredible drummer. Perry >> unfortunately >> > I >> > have to say was the weak link. Not a lot of power in his voice, didn't >> > really make a lot of use of his little echo toolbox and took a lot >> longer >> > than the rest of the band to loosen up as the set progressed. I will >> say >> > when they got to Been Caught Stealing, he was up with the rest of the >> band >> > and loosened up enough to bullshit and introduce most of the remaining >> > songs. >> > >> > I do think in a lot of ways this reunion, especially how Perry carries >> > himself these days reminds me of the recent David Lee Roth/Van Halen >> > reunion >> > in the way both frontmen have dropped the more manic, physical aspect >> of >> > their stage persona due to age and are more like Vegas car dealers >> doing >> > their shtick for the rubes. At times, Perry was genuinely funny but >> when >> > he >> > used forced, awkward analogies to introduce each of the last few >> songs, it >> > got hackneyed. >> > >> > Most of the songs from a performance standpoint sounded excellent. >> > Mountain >> > Song is played by Dave a bit differently now, a bit more RAWK! like >> > someone >> > like Billy Duffy would play the tune. The band was very tight with one >> > major >> > exception. The only song I thought kinda missed the mark was the one I >> was >> > most excited to hear, Ted, which lacked an "edge" it's had in the past >> and >> > never really got out of third gear and came close to falling apart the >> > last >> > couple minutes as the band kind of careened a bit out of time with >> each >> > other. >> > >> > But I'll tell you what, "Stop" was fucking perfect. Clearly the best >> > performed song of the set and got great audience participation. "Had a >> > Dad" >> > and "Ocean Size" ended the 2 song encore and the short barely hour >> long >> > set >> > was done. >> > >> >>From a crowd standpoint, the asshole factor was low but there were a >> few >> > lobcocks who'd careen around like big, sweaty, smelly dreidels. One >> > grinning drunk slob who looked like Seth Rogan got hoisted up for some >> > crowd >> > surfing and got maybe 5 feet before being dumped on the ground like a >> sack >> > of shit. He later wound up getting on the stage on Erics side and then >> > flopped off the stage like a beached whale. >> > >> > All n' all though, a great night even if it was too short and I >> *really* >> > wanted to hear "Three Days." >> > >> > Setlist: >> > >> > Up The Beach >> > Trip Away (on the setlist but not played) >> > Whores >> > 1% >> > Ain't No Right >> > Mountain Song >> > Been Caught Stealing >> > Ted Just Admit It. >> > Stop! >> > (encore) >> > Had a Dad >> > Ocean Size >> > >> > T.B. >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Gathering mailing list >> > Gathering at misera.net >> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live. > http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008_______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Feb 19 20:56:29 2009 From: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk (Jim Harper) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 01:56:29 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] [OT]Orson Welles, Kubrick In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <508447.45548.qm@web25902.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Just my opinion, of course, but with the exception of 1.5 of his films (Dr Strangelove and a few moments here and there), there are few filmmakers whose work I find quite so tedious, bland and utterly overrated as Stanley Kubrick. If I live to be 103 I swear I shall never come any closer to understanding why this man is hailed as a genius. Truly bewildering. ? I've tried. I really have. Every five years I hire/borrow a copy of 2001, just to see if it improves on 3rd/4th/5th etc viewing. WIthout fail I find myself bored to tears and painfully remembering why I only do this twice a decade. Periodically I'll watch The Shining, having read some critic's fawning, superlative-laden eulogy and been motivated to give it another fair crack of the whip. Barely made through the first hour this time, before turning it off in favour of some infinitely-more-effective horror film (and there are *lots*). Still, I'll keep trying, if only for the disgruntled movie fans who inevitably start sharpening the knives the moment I refuse to genuflect to St. Anley Kubrick. ? Jim. --- On Fri, 20/2/09, Bette Dillinger wrote: From: Bette Dillinger Subject: Re: [kj] [OT]Orson Welles, Kubrick To: gathering at misera.net Date: Friday, 20 February, 2009, 1:03 AM #yiv1738156812 .hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv1738156812 { font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} But the man with the plan over his entire lifespan is Stanley Kubrick.? I heart?Kubrick from "Killer's Kiss" to "Full Metal Jacket".??"Eyes Wide Shut".......I read the novella, it had no bearing on the final outcome and I have always been cynical about that film.? ? > Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:02:55 +0100 > From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine and movies > > When it comes to old movies, i worship Fritz Lang for his two > masterpieces M and Metropolis. Also Sergei Eisenstein and Friedrich > Murnau, and even Leni Riefenstahl. > > Alfred Hitchcock, yes please, especially Vertigo is visually > impressive. 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URL: From jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Feb 19 21:01:15 2009 From: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk (Jim Harper) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 02:01:15 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] (OT) NIN In-Reply-To: <4100.124.197.4.147.1235094881.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <497895.43533.qm@web25901.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> I think I would have to agree that the Lollapalooser tours and bands like Jane's, NIN (plus RHCP, RATM etc etc) did have a hefty influence on the US alternative scene... --- On Fri, 20/2/09, Brendan wrote: From: Brendan Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) NIN To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Date: Friday, 20 February, 2009, 1:54 AM Trentnor reckons he invented alternative music, Lollapaloser, and paved the way for Nirvana: http://www.nin.com/ > > I read in one review that Trent Reznor is an heir to a large fortune. I > am not saying money is happiness, but it does make a nice down payment. > Do any of the musos floating around here know what he is heir to? It is > something electrical (I am *so* technical in my descriptions, I > know)........ > >> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 12:37:48 +1300 >> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz >> To: gathering at misera.net >> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Jane's Addiction at Echoplex in LA Last Night >> >> Gonna be 'interesting' to see how the NIN / Jane's Addiction shows pan >> out. >> >> My impressions of last night's NIN gig: >> >> Meh. With the emphasis on the 'eh'. >> >> I TRIED to like NIN. I went to all the effort of stealing Trentnor's >> life's work, listening to it on train and plane journeys, walking in to >> work and feeling incongruously anti-social (and anachronistic) while >> docile passersby passed by, oblivious to the fact that I was listening >> to >> something that sounded like a hardcore remake of the Metropolis >> soundtrack >> (1994 Crack Remix). >> >> ...familiarised myself with Pretty Hate Machine (I passed on the 2/3 of >> his album collection where he remixes his own stuff?yawn), which I had >> never picked up before because of the awful name. >> >> So I was relatively familiar with NIN, at least moreso than previously, >> when my appreciation was limited to the Quake soundtrack (sounds like >> Tool >> lite) and "that song that Johnny Cash does better." And Perfect >> Drug...which always had me scratching my head as to why it was on such >> high rotate. (Surely these guys do better stuff than this?) >> >> The opening band's promo photo looked so shit I didn't even bother >> listening to anything online to see what they were like. (This >> admittedly >> renders the rest of my review useless due to extreme prejudice but >> hey...just being honest. Don't pretend you're not the same). >> >> NIN - sound quality was mildly mucky, not awful, and probably not their >> fault. Smallish crowd for the venue (half to two thirds of the ~10 000 >> seat venue filled). Good light show, basic but good impact. >> Overall...some >> pretty solid material. A fair bit of it sounds samey to me, and I really >> wouldn?t rate them up there with their 90s contemporaries (Soundgarden, >> Tool, Rage Against the Machine, Ministry) for impact, depth, breadth, or >> range. Anyway, a *relatively* solid gig, but a few things gave away that >> it was a phone-in, in a disappointing way. Practically no >> acknowledgement >> of the crowd, no encore, and ?this is probably going to be our last show >> in New Zealand" quoth Trentnor half-way through, in one of the perhaps >> two >> times he deigned to address the audience. Seemed to fuck half the >> audience >> off, and rightly so. That was it, not "hey this might be the last time I >> play here so let's rip shit up." More like..."this is probably the last >> time I'm gonna fuck you up the ass, not sure if I can come, anyway, just >> thought I'd share...FYI. Now breathe out and clench." >> >> Yeah no worries, thanks for the newsflash, it's certainly gonna be the >> last time you get any money from me (I bought 2 tix), and a lot of >> others >> in the crowd like me who have seen better, more considerate bands try to >> disguise a phone-in, or dredge up enough energy from the crowd to find >> some reason to enjoy being there. >> >> No encore despite most of the crowd giving it heaps for 10 mins, futiley >> as the stage was dismantled immediately the black-clad phoners in left. >> >> That was the more objective impression. This is what part of me really >> thinks: >> >> Go home and polish your Grammys and play Hurt to yourself on your synth >> you never-really-has-been. There's a reason I wasn't into NIN and I'm >> glad >> I had my suspicions confirmed. 80% of their songs sound the same. Sub >> par >> lyrics, predictable anthems for 14-year old sexually ambivalent teens to >> half-heartedly self-harm to in the privacy of their bedrooms in between >> Evanescence CDs. >> >> Note to self: Don't ever bend over backwards trying to like something >> you >> don't. >> >> > Jane's Addiction, reunited with original bass player Eric Avery has >> been >> > doing a few low key warm-up bar and club shows in LA the past few >> months >> > before they go out on tour with Nine Inch Nails in late Spring. I >> caught >> > last night's show at the Echoplex club which was their third >> appearance >> > together since all four members began working together again. >> > >> > It turned out to be an excellent if short show, mostly better than the >> > tiny >> > El Cid bar show #2 which I caught last December. Only things I think >> El >> > Cid >> > was marginally better was being a tiny club, much more intense energy >> from >> > the crowd that show. I think Perry sounded better there as well. >> > >> > It had been raining really hard much of the day in Southern California >> and >> > I >> > was really on the fence about going or not right up to about 6pm. I >> went >> > for it and got to the Echoplex (in Echo Park) around 8:15 and a huge >> line >> > of 200 - 300 people was winding along the building and it quickly >> because >> > obvious some people didn't have or even know about the RSVP thing. >> Light >> > rain had just stopped and it was cool but at least dry. The line >> started >> > moving as they left small groups of about 10 - 15 people in at a time >> to >> > get >> > their ID checked for a wristband, then get their ID checked against a >> list >> > at the door from the website registration rsvps. Saw a couple people >> > turned >> > away in front of me but later saw them inside so its possible they had >> > enough room for people who basically walked up to see the show after >> the >> > majority of RSVP'ers got in. Considering my own feelings this method >> of >> > getting people in the show could have turned into a real mess, it >> seems >> > like >> > it turned out to be well run with few problems. >> > >> > My first time at Echoplex. Kind of a weird room, the mixing desk kinda >> > bisects the club in half so if your in the back, you gotta stand on >> some >> > boxes to get a decent view. Pretty laid back, almost too mellow of a >> > crowd >> > especially for the opening band "Dot," which was kind of a more >> ambient, >> > dissonant noise version of Secret Machines. Band shows some promise, >> but >> > the singer was hardly audible, partly because he rarely projected >> himself >> > but moreso because the vocals were mixed way too far down (same for >> Perry >> > during Jane's set). They got a decent response from the crowd, more >> > respect >> > than actual adoration. Frankly, I thought they were boring. >> > >> > There was a long wait, made somewhat manageable by the selections >> whoever >> > was DJ'ing played a good amount of Killing Joke ("Change"), Bauhaus, >> > Cramps >> > ("New Kind Of Kick" got a huge response), Bowie and a few other favs >> on >> > the >> > PA. >> > >> > About 11:15, Jane's strolled on the stage and ground into Up The >> Beach. I >> > think it was played half a step down and a bit slower. Eric had more >> room >> > to >> > prowl and stomp tonight so he'd either be doing his tribal stomp to >> songs >> > like Mountain Song or Ocean Size or locked into his zone often staring >> up >> > at >> > the ceiling playing Pigs in Zen. Tonight, Dave was more on the mark >> most >> > of >> > the show that the 2nd show, Perkins was simply 100% a precision human >> > piledriver. The man is simply an incredible drummer. Perry >> unfortunately >> > I >> > have to say was the weak link. Not a lot of power in his voice, didn't >> > really make a lot of use of his little echo toolbox and took a lot >> longer >> > than the rest of the band to loosen up as the set progressed. I will >> say >> > when they got to Been Caught Stealing, he was up with the rest of the >> band >> > and loosened up enough to bullshit and introduce most of the remaining >> > songs. >> > >> > I do think in a lot of ways this reunion, especially how Perry carries >> > himself these days reminds me of the recent David Lee Roth/Van Halen >> > reunion >> > in the way both frontmen have dropped the more manic, physical aspect >> of >> > their stage persona due to age and are more like Vegas car dealers >> doing >> > their shtick for the rubes. At times, Perry was genuinely funny but >> when >> > he >> > used forced, awkward analogies to introduce each of the last few >> songs, it >> > got hackneyed. >> > >> > Most of the songs from a performance standpoint sounded excellent. >> > Mountain >> > Song is played by Dave a bit differently now, a bit more RAWK! like >> > someone >> > like Billy Duffy would play the tune. The band was very tight with one >> > major >> > exception. The only song I thought kinda missed the mark was the one I >> was >> > most excited to hear, Ted, which lacked an "edge" it's had in the past >> and >> > never really got out of third gear and came close to falling apart the >> > last >> > couple minutes as the band kind of careened a bit out of time with >> each >> > other. >> > >> > But I'll tell you what, "Stop" was fucking perfect. Clearly the best >> > performed song of the set and got great audience participation. "Had a >> > Dad" >> > and "Ocean Size" ended the 2 song encore and the short barely hour >> long >> > set >> > was done. >> > >> >>From a crowd standpoint, the asshole factor was low but there were a >> few >> > lobcocks who'd careen around like big, sweaty, smelly dreidels. One >> > grinning drunk slob who looked like Seth Rogan got hoisted up for some >> > crowd >> > surfing and got maybe 5 feet before being dumped on the ground like a >> sack >> > of shit. He later wound up getting on the stage on Erics side and then >> > flopped off the stage like a beached whale. >> > >> > All n' all though, a great night even if it was too short and I >> *really* >> > wanted to hear "Three Days." >> > >> > Setlist: >> > >> > Up The Beach >> > Trip Away (on the setlist but not played) >> > Whores >> > 1% >> > Ain't No Right >> > Mountain Song >> > Been Caught Stealing >> > Ted Just Admit It. >> > Stop! >> > (encore) >> > Had a Dad >> > Ocean Size >> > >> > T.B. >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Gathering mailing list >> > Gathering at misera.net >> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get more out of the Web. 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URL: From bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 21:10:32 2009 From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 03:10:32 +0100 Subject: [kj] [OT]Orson Welles, Kubrick In-Reply-To: References: <08C1A17629AF4B0AA67C88DC576AEF76@edweil> <003201c99240$06c53700$144fa500$@com> <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DB9C@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> Message-ID: On 2/20/09, Bette Dillinger wrote: > One of my faves of all time is Orson Welles. Has anyone seen "F is for > Fake"? It is such a great examination of how some people are considered > "experts" when others are "imposters". If any of you have seen his version > of "MacBeth" or especially Kafka's "The Trial" I salute you. The Trial is my fave book and movie. Hopefully you got it with the full intro! b From bettedillinger at live.com Thu Feb 19 21:16:50 2009 From: bettedillinger at live.com (Bette Dillinger) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:16:50 -0500 Subject: [kj] [OT]Orson Welles, Kubrick In-Reply-To: <508447.45548.qm@web25902.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <508447.45548.qm@web25902.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hey, I love to see someone come back with a "meh" because nothing and no one is pristine in their virtues. I do hear you loud and clear on "2001", though I did for the first time watch it all the way through and was impressed. The continuity from the apes to the fetus was a mark of greatness to me, but to you, not so much. What did you think of "Lolita"? I have read your distaste for "The Shining" before, and though I really love that film, of course it has flaws. Did you watch the documentary his wife did about it (it is only about 45 minutes) which shows the amusing problems going on.....it made the finished result more understandable, especially JN's chewing of scenery. But really, don't you think "A Clockwork Orange" is a seminal film? It gives me a pain in me gulliver to think of how many times I have watched it. Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 01:56:29 +0000 From: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] [OT]Orson Welles, Kubrick Just my opinion, of course, but with the exception of 1.5 of his films (Dr Strangelove and a few moments here and there), there are few filmmakers whose work I find quite so tedious, bland and utterly overrated as Stanley Kubrick. If I live to be 103 I swear I shall never come any closer to understanding why this man is hailed as a genius. Truly bewildering. I've tried. I really have. Every five years I hire/borrow a copy of 2001, just to see if it improves on 3rd/4th/5th etc viewing. WIthout fail I find myself bored to tears and painfully remembering why I only do this twice a decade. Periodically I'll watch The Shining, having read some critic's fawning, superlative-laden eulogy and been motivated to give it another fair crack of the whip. Barely made through the first hour this time, before turning it off in favour of some infinitely-more-effective horror film (and there are *lots*). Still, I'll keep trying, if only for the disgruntled movie fans who inevitably start sharpening the knives the moment I refuse to genuflect to St. Anley Kubrick. Jim. --- On Fri, 20/2/09, Bette Dillinger wrote: From: Bette Dillinger Subject: Re: [kj] [OT]Orson Welles, Kubrick To: gathering at misera.net Date: Friday, 20 February, 2009, 1:03 AM But the man with the plan over his entire lifespan is Stanley Kubrick. I heart Kubrick from "Killer's Kiss" to "Full Metal Jacket". "Eyes Wide Shut".......I read the novella, it had no bearing on the final outcome and I have always been cynical about that film. > Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:02:55 +0100 > From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine and movies > > When it comes to old movies, i worship Fritz Lang for his two > masterpieces M and Metropolis. Also Sergei Eisenstein and Friedrich > Murnau, and even Leni Riefenstahl. > > Alfred Hitchcock, yes please, especially Vertigo is visually > impressive. But i'd take an Orson Welles movie over a Hitchcock movie > any day, especially The Trial, which to me is how a movie can be taken > to perfection. > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering See how Windows connects the people, information, and fun that are part of your life. 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But if you want to hate him even more after that interview, look up his rendition of "Bela Lugosi's Dead" on SueTube. > Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:54:41 +1300 > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) NIN > > Trentnor reckons he invented alternative music, Lollapaloser, and paved > the way for Nirvana: > > http://www.nin.com/ > > > > > I read in one review that Trent Reznor is an heir to a large fortune. I > > am not saying money is happiness, but it does make a nice down payment. > > Do any of the musos floating around here know what he is heir to? It is > > something electrical (I am *so* technical in my descriptions, I > > know)........ > > > >> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 12:37:48 +1300 > >> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz > >> To: gathering at misera.net > >> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Jane's Addiction at Echoplex in LA Last Night > >> > >> Gonna be 'interesting' to see how the NIN / Jane's Addiction shows pan > >> out. > >> > >> My impressions of last night's NIN gig: > >> > >> Meh. With the emphasis on the 'eh'. > >> > >> I TRIED to like NIN. I went to all the effort of stealing Trentnor's > >> life's work, listening to it on train and plane journeys, walking in to > >> work and feeling incongruously anti-social (and anachronistic) while > >> docile passersby passed by, oblivious to the fact that I was listening > >> to > >> something that sounded like a hardcore remake of the Metropolis > >> soundtrack > >> (1994 Crack Remix). > >> > >> ...familiarised myself with Pretty Hate Machine (I passed on the 2/3 of > >> his album collection where he remixes his own stuff?yawn), which I had > >> never picked up before because of the awful name. > >> > >> So I was relatively familiar with NIN, at least moreso than previously, > >> when my appreciation was limited to the Quake soundtrack (sounds like > >> Tool > >> lite) and "that song that Johnny Cash does better." And Perfect > >> Drug...which always had me scratching my head as to why it was on such > >> high rotate. (Surely these guys do better stuff than this?) > >> > >> The opening band's promo photo looked so shit I didn't even bother > >> listening to anything online to see what they were like. (This > >> admittedly > >> renders the rest of my review useless due to extreme prejudice but > >> hey...just being honest. Don't pretend you're not the same). > >> > >> NIN - sound quality was mildly mucky, not awful, and probably not their > >> fault. Smallish crowd for the venue (half to two thirds of the ~10 000 > >> seat venue filled). Good light show, basic but good impact. > >> Overall...some > >> pretty solid material. A fair bit of it sounds samey to me, and I really > >> wouldn?t rate them up there with their 90s contemporaries (Soundgarden, > >> Tool, Rage Against the Machine, Ministry) for impact, depth, breadth, or > >> range. Anyway, a *relatively* solid gig, but a few things gave away that > >> it was a phone-in, in a disappointing way. Practically no > >> acknowledgement > >> of the crowd, no encore, and ?this is probably going to be our last show > >> in New Zealand" quoth Trentnor half-way through, in one of the perhaps > >> two > >> times he deigned to address the audience. Seemed to fuck half the > >> audience > >> off, and rightly so. That was it, not "hey this might be the last time I > >> play here so let's rip shit up." More like..."this is probably the last > >> time I'm gonna fuck you up the ass, not sure if I can come, anyway, just > >> thought I'd share...FYI. Now breathe out and clench." > >> > >> Yeah no worries, thanks for the newsflash, it's certainly gonna be the > >> last time you get any money from me (I bought 2 tix), and a lot of > >> others > >> in the crowd like me who have seen better, more considerate bands try to > >> disguise a phone-in, or dredge up enough energy from the crowd to find > >> some reason to enjoy being there. > >> > >> No encore despite most of the crowd giving it heaps for 10 mins, futiley > >> as the stage was dismantled immediately the black-clad phoners in left. > >> > >> That was the more objective impression. This is what part of me really > >> thinks: > >> > >> Go home and polish your Grammys and play Hurt to yourself on your synth > >> you never-really-has-been. There's a reason I wasn't into NIN and I'm > >> glad > >> I had my suspicions confirmed. 80% of their songs sound the same. Sub > >> par > >> lyrics, predictable anthems for 14-year old sexually ambivalent teens to > >> half-heartedly self-harm to in the privacy of their bedrooms in between > >> Evanescence CDs. > >> > >> Note to self: Don't ever bend over backwards trying to like something > >> you > >> don't. > >> > >> > Jane's Addiction, reunited with original bass player Eric Avery has > >> been > >> > doing a few low key warm-up bar and club shows in LA the past few > >> months > >> > before they go out on tour with Nine Inch Nails in late Spring. I > >> caught > >> > last night's show at the Echoplex club which was their third > >> appearance > >> > together since all four members began working together again. > >> > > >> > It turned out to be an excellent if short show, mostly better than the > >> > tiny > >> > El Cid bar show #2 which I caught last December. Only things I think > >> El > >> > Cid > >> > was marginally better was being a tiny club, much more intense energy > >> from > >> > the crowd that show. I think Perry sounded better there as well. > >> > > >> > It had been raining really hard much of the day in Southern California > >> and > >> > I > >> > was really on the fence about going or not right up to about 6pm. I > >> went > >> > for it and got to the Echoplex (in Echo Park) around 8:15 and a huge > >> line > >> > of 200 - 300 people was winding along the building and it quickly > >> because > >> > obvious some people didn't have or even know about the RSVP thing. > >> Light > >> > rain had just stopped and it was cool but at least dry. The line > >> started > >> > moving as they left small groups of about 10 - 15 people in at a time > >> to > >> > get > >> > their ID checked for a wristband, then get their ID checked against a > >> list > >> > at the door from the website registration rsvps. Saw a couple people > >> > turned > >> > away in front of me but later saw them inside so its possible they had > >> > enough room for people who basically walked up to see the show after > >> the > >> > majority of RSVP'ers got in. Considering my own feelings this method > >> of > >> > getting people in the show could have turned into a real mess, it > >> seems > >> > like > >> > it turned out to be well run with few problems. > >> > > >> > My first time at Echoplex. Kind of a weird room, the mixing desk kinda > >> > bisects the club in half so if your in the back, you gotta stand on > >> some > >> > boxes to get a decent view. Pretty laid back, almost too mellow of a > >> > crowd > >> > especially for the opening band "Dot," which was kind of a more > >> ambient, > >> > dissonant noise version of Secret Machines. Band shows some promise, > >> but > >> > the singer was hardly audible, partly because he rarely projected > >> himself > >> > but moreso because the vocals were mixed way too far down (same for > >> Perry > >> > during Jane's set). They got a decent response from the crowd, more > >> > respect > >> > than actual adoration. Frankly, I thought they were boring. > >> > > >> > There was a long wait, made somewhat manageable by the selections > >> whoever > >> > was DJ'ing played a good amount of Killing Joke ("Change"), Bauhaus, > >> > Cramps > >> > ("New Kind Of Kick" got a huge response), Bowie and a few other favs > >> on > >> > the > >> > PA. > >> > > >> > About 11:15, Jane's strolled on the stage and ground into Up The > >> Beach. I > >> > think it was played half a step down and a bit slower. Eric had more > >> room > >> > to > >> > prowl and stomp tonight so he'd either be doing his tribal stomp to > >> songs > >> > like Mountain Song or Ocean Size or locked into his zone often staring > >> up > >> > at > >> > the ceiling playing Pigs in Zen. Tonight, Dave was more on the mark > >> most > >> > of > >> > the show that the 2nd show, Perkins was simply 100% a precision human > >> > piledriver. The man is simply an incredible drummer. Perry > >> unfortunately > >> > I > >> > have to say was the weak link. Not a lot of power in his voice, didn't > >> > really make a lot of use of his little echo toolbox and took a lot > >> longer > >> > than the rest of the band to loosen up as the set progressed. I will > >> say > >> > when they got to Been Caught Stealing, he was up with the rest of the > >> band > >> > and loosened up enough to bullshit and introduce most of the remaining > >> > songs. > >> > > >> > I do think in a lot of ways this reunion, especially how Perry carries > >> > himself these days reminds me of the recent David Lee Roth/Van Halen > >> > reunion > >> > in the way both frontmen have dropped the more manic, physical aspect > >> of > >> > their stage persona due to age and are more like Vegas car dealers > >> doing > >> > their shtick for the rubes. At times, Perry was genuinely funny but > >> when > >> > he > >> > used forced, awkward analogies to introduce each of the last few > >> songs, it > >> > got hackneyed. > >> > > >> > Most of the songs from a performance standpoint sounded excellent. > >> > Mountain > >> > Song is played by Dave a bit differently now, a bit more RAWK! like > >> > someone > >> > like Billy Duffy would play the tune. The band was very tight with one > >> > major > >> > exception. The only song I thought kinda missed the mark was the one I > >> was > >> > most excited to hear, Ted, which lacked an "edge" it's had in the past > >> and > >> > never really got out of third gear and came close to falling apart the > >> > last > >> > couple minutes as the band kind of careened a bit out of time with > >> each > >> > other. > >> > > >> > But I'll tell you what, "Stop" was fucking perfect. Clearly the best > >> > performed song of the set and got great audience participation. "Had a > >> > Dad" > >> > and "Ocean Size" ended the 2 song encore and the short barely hour > >> long > >> > set > >> > was done. > >> > > >> >>From a crowd standpoint, the asshole factor was low but there were a > >> few > >> > lobcocks who'd careen around like big, sweaty, smelly dreidels. One > >> > grinning drunk slob who looked like Seth Rogan got hoisted up for some > >> > crowd > >> > surfing and got maybe 5 feet before being dumped on the ground like a > >> sack > >> > of shit. He later wound up getting on the stage on Erics side and then > >> > flopped off the stage like a beached whale. > >> > > >> > All n' all though, a great night even if it was too short and I > >> *really* > >> > wanted to hear "Three Days." > >> > > >> > Setlist: > >> > > >> > Up The Beach > >> > Trip Away (on the setlist but not played) > >> > Whores > >> > 1% > >> > Ain't No Right > >> > Mountain Song > >> > Been Caught Stealing > >> > Ted Just Admit It. > >> > Stop! > >> > (encore) > >> > Had a Dad > >> > Ocean Size > >> > > >> > T.B. > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Gathering mailing list > >> > Gathering at misera.net > >> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > >> > > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Gathering mailing list > >> Gathering at misera.net > >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get more out of the Web. 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URL: From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Thu Feb 19 21:30:57 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:30:57 +1300 (NZDT) Subject: [kj] [OT]Orson Welles, Kubrick In-Reply-To: <508447.45548.qm@web25902.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <508447.45548.qm@web25902.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1398.124.197.4.147.1235097057.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Yeah have to agree, The Shining was totally ineffective in scaring me, and 2001, while it had some great scenes, excellently soundtracked, was way, way too long and slow. I don't think I could ever go back and watch it again the whole way through. > Just my opinion, of course, but with the exception of 1.5 of his films (Dr > Strangelove and a few moments here and there), there are few filmmakers > whose work I find quite so tedious, bland and utterly overrated as Stanley > Kubrick. If I live to be 103 I swear I shall never come any closer to > understanding why this man is hailed as a genius. Truly bewildering. > ? > I've tried. I really have. Every five years I hire/borrow a copy of 2001, > just to see if it improves on 3rd/4th/5th etc viewing. WIthout fail I find > myself bored to tears and painfully remembering why I only do this twice a > decade. Periodically I'll watch The Shining, having read some critic's > fawning, superlative-laden eulogy and been motivated to give it another > fair crack of the whip. Barely made through the first hour this time, > before turning it off in favour of some infinitely-more-effective horror > film (and there are *lots*). Still, I'll keep trying, if only for the > disgruntled movie fans who inevitably start sharpening the knives the > moment I refuse to genuflect to St. Anley Kubrick. > ? > Jim. > > --- On Fri, 20/2/09, Bette Dillinger wrote: > > From: Bette Dillinger > Subject: Re: [kj] [OT]Orson Welles, Kubrick > To: gathering at misera.net > Date: Friday, 20 February, 2009, 1:03 AM > > > > > #yiv1738156812 .hmmessage P > { > margin:0px;padding:0px;} > #yiv1738156812 { > font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} > > But the man with the plan over his entire lifespan is Stanley Kubrick.? I > heart?Kubrick from "Killer's Kiss" to "Full Metal Jacket".??"Eyes Wide > Shut".......I read the novella, it had no bearing on the final outcome and > I have always been cynical about that film.? > ? >> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:02:55 +0100 >> From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com >> To: gathering at misera.net >> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine and movies >> >> When it comes to old movies, i worship Fritz Lang for his two >> masterpieces M and Metropolis. Also Sergei Eisenstein and Friedrich >> Murnau, and even Leni Riefenstahl. >> >> Alfred Hitchcock, yes please, especially Vertigo is visually >> impressive. But i'd take an Orson Welles movie over a Hitchcock movie >> any day, especially The Trial, which to me is how a movie can be taken >> to perfection. >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > See how Windows connects the people, information, and fun that are part of > your life. See Now _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Thu Feb 19 21:32:18 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:32:18 +1300 (NZDT) Subject: [kj] (OT) NIN In-Reply-To: <497895.43533.qm@web25901.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <4100.124.197.4.147.1235094881.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <497895.43533.qm@web25901.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1446.124.197.4.147.1235097138.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Oh please don't get me going about RHCP, can't stand em. NIN I can still listen to, but most of RHCP gives me the total shits. > I think I would have to agree that the Lollapalooser tours and bands like > Jane's, NIN (plus RHCP, RATM etc etc) did have a hefty influence on the US >