[kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales

[ade]

Yeah, spot-on. At one time carrying a bag full of old Bauhaus vinyl was a trip, finding that mint condition 12" copy of JD's Transmission caused palpitations, but now I have numerous bills to pay & blah blah blah... 'life' has taken over!

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Termite
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I think its a mixture of both Ade to be honest, you tend to "obsess" more over things when younger I think. I certainly for one did.

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I wonder if it's just part of getting older?

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Termite
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This has touched a cord with me too :-( The delightful time of being young having Vinyl to mull over the sleeve artwork the lyrics first went, then just like yourself the joy of eagerly going into town to buy a CD mulling over the contents on the way home on the bus has now gone.
 
Whilst still able to do that as fluke has mentioned, we also have to remember High St retail is ont he decline, I prefer myself now to buy a CD online where it can be 1/3rd cheaper with free delivery and I dont have to think about fuel costs.

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From: Janean Lancaster <mailto:Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk>  
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True, but the excitement is gone.  Having access to anything I want at my fingertips means the thought of going into town on a bus and buying a CD is no longer appealing.  

 


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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of fluke fluke
Sent: 30 January 2009 17:24
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Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales

 

"I agree about missing the old days - sitting on a bus, poring over the artwork of the goodies in your bag on the journey home from the shops."

   I have some good news for you Janean.
 Buses still run.
 Shops still sell C.D.s
There is nothing to stop you jumping on a bus, buying a C.D. and then looking at it on the bus on the way home, theres nothing at all to stop you doing that .
   There's no need to miss the old days .





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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:56:38 +0000
From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales

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That pretty much sums up how I feel about it too.  I download in order to hear stuff, and my favourites are bought on CD.  Only because I want to be able to re-rip at higher bitrates as my hard drives/ipods increase capacity.  I've not paid for very many downloads.  

 

I agree about missing the old days - sitting on a bus, poring over the artwork of the goodies in your bag on the journey home from the shops.

 

I too spend much more on gigs.

 

If album downloads were lossless and included a nice PDF of artwork/lyrics/credits/whathaveyou that you could print off to get stuck into while listening to the music, I would be glad to see the back of CDs.  And I would have so much more shelf space at home.

 


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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
Sent: 30 January 2009 15:28
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales

 

Do we have many people who work in the music industry on the list? I wanted to voice an opinion about the decline in CD sales. 

 

I read these articles all the time, on tech sites and general news, about the *terrible* decline in CD sales revenue and how it's affecting Sony and Time Warner and Geffen and all the other music companies. And then I get into the comments section, and the thing that strikes me is...people seem to take the problem seriously. But I can't really see a problem?

 

Haven't we all been bitching about record companies since the day dot? Artists and consumers alike? Aren't they the toll-booth between legitimate artists and people who would benefit from their art? Don't they artificially ratchet up the prices to consumers and down the prices to the artists, didn't they charge more for CDs than cassettes despite cassettes costing more to make (50% premium is the price I remember paying in the late 80s / early 90s in NZ, $30+ vs $20). Don't they develop these shit Britney Spears and boy bands that have no artistic merit whatsoever and pollute our youth with mediocrity and perpetuate these negative stereotypes? Didn't we have to pay a small fortune to change the media format of our collections from records or cassettes to CDs, despite having - surely, already purchased the rights to the content? Why are they complaining that we're getting a free ride in the current conversion? Haven't the artists been complaining about being ass-raped by these guys ever since Motown records, or before?

 

Okay, so piracy is illegal, a whole generation is getting stuff for free and artists are losing out. But are they really? Are they artists that tour? Because while my CD spend has all but dried up to a flaccid husk of its previous self, my gig spend has at least compensated, probably moreso, esp considering I have more disposable cash than when I was a destitute student and buying CDs. And if it's a tough 5-10+ year transition into the digital age...well if we do away with the record company tax / toll-booth that sits in between artists and their audience - who cares? What did these guys do anyway? Did they scout talent that now won't come to light? Ever heard of the internet? If I can hear about fucking ThumbMan (which admittedly brightened my life for a good 45 seconds), then I'm pretty sure I'll her about the next Radiohead without Subpop telling me all about it. 

 

To me the main loss is the kids who are getting all this music for free and therefore fail to appreciate what it's like to work a shit job and save up for a few weeks to get the latest Led Zep or to flesh out their Sabbath collection, walk home with a record burning a hole in their bag, and then listen to it the whole way through while looking at the artwork and smoking some oregano their mates sold them as hash and having the single best day of their lives until the lose their virginity, but I digress....

 

People losing jobs isn't nice to see, but that's a whole different debate.

 


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