[kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales

[Janean Lancaster]

I think I obsessed over things more when I was a teenager just because I
had plenty more "me time", shut in my bedroom with
records/posters/daydreams.  I certainly can and do still get obsessive
about things to some degree.  

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of Termite
Sent: 02 February 2009 12:27
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Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales

 

I think its a mixture of both Ade to be honest, you tend to "obsess"
more over things when younger I think. I certainly for one did.

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	I wonder if it's just part of getting older?

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		From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
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		Sent: 02 February 2009 12:19
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		This has touched a cord with me too :-( The delightful
time of being young having Vinyl to mull over the sleeve artwork the
lyrics first went, then just like yourself the joy of eagerly going into
town to buy a CD mulling over the contents on the way home on the bus
has now gone.

		 

		Whilst still able to do that as fluke has mentioned, we
also have to remember High St retail is ont he decline, I prefer myself
now to buy a CD online where it can be 1/3rd cheaper with free delivery
and I dont have to think about fuel costs.

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			From: Janean Lancaster
<mailto:Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk>  

			To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the
band!) <mailto:gathering at misera.net>  

			Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:19 AM

			Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline
in CD sales

			 

			True, but the excitement is gone.  Having access
to anything I want at my fingertips means the thought of going into town
on a bus and buying a CD is no longer appealing.  

			 

			
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			From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of fluke fluke
			Sent: 30 January 2009 17:24
			To: gathering at misera.net
			Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline
in CD sales

			 

			"I agree about missing the old days - sitting on
a bus, poring over the artwork of the goodies in your bag on the journey
home from the shops."
			
			   I have some good news for you Janean.
			 Buses still run.
			 Shops still sell C.D.s
			There is nothing to stop you jumping on a bus,
buying a C.D. and then looking at it on the bus on the way home, theres
nothing at all to stop you doing that .
			   There's no need to miss the old days .
			
			

			
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			Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:56:38 +0000
			From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk
			To: gathering at misera.net
			Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline
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			That pretty much sums up how I feel about it
too.  I download in order to hear stuff, and my favourites are bought on
CD.  Only because I want to be able to re-rip at higher bitrates as my
hard drives/ipods increase capacity.  I've not paid for very many
downloads.  

			 

			I agree about missing the old days - sitting on
a bus, poring over the artwork of the goodies in your bag on the journey
home from the shops.

			 

			I too spend much more on gigs.

			 

			If album downloads were lossless and included a
nice PDF of artwork/lyrics/credits/whathaveyou that you could print off
to get stuck into while listening to the music, I would be glad to see
the back of CDs.  And I would have so much more shelf space at home.

			 

			
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			From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
			Sent: 30 January 2009 15:28
			To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the
band!)'
			Subject: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD
sales

			 

			Do we have many people who work in the music
industry on the list? I wanted to voice an opinion about the decline in
CD sales. 

			 

			I read these articles all the time, on tech
sites and general news, about the *terrible* decline in CD sales revenue
and how it's affecting Sony and Time Warner and Geffen and all the other
music companies. And then I get into the comments section, and the thing
that strikes me is...people seem to take the problem seriously. But I
can't really see a problem?

			 

			Haven't we all been bitching about record
companies since the day dot? Artists and consumers alike? Aren't they
the toll-booth between legitimate artists and people who would benefit
from their art? Don't they artificially ratchet up the prices to
consumers and down the prices to the artists, didn't they charge more
for CDs than cassettes despite cassettes costing more to make (50%
premium is the price I remember paying in the late 80s / early 90s in
NZ, $30+ vs $20). Don't they develop these shit Britney Spears and boy
bands that have no artistic merit whatsoever and pollute our youth with
mediocrity and perpetuate these negative stereotypes? Didn't we have to
pay a small fortune to change the media format of our collections from
records or cassettes to CDs, despite having - surely, already purchased
the rights to the content? Why are they complaining that we're getting a
free ride in the current conversion? Haven't the artists been
complaining about being ass-raped by these guys ever since Motown
records, or before?

			 

			Okay, so piracy is illegal, a whole generation
is getting stuff for free and artists are losing out. But are they
really? Are they artists that tour? Because while my CD spend has all
but dried up to a flaccid husk of its previous self, my gig spend has at
least compensated, probably moreso, esp considering I have more
disposable cash than when I was a destitute student and buying CDs. And
if it's a tough 5-10+ year transition into the digital age...well if we
do away with the record company tax / toll-booth that sits in between
artists and their audience - who cares? What did these guys do anyway?
Did they scout talent that now won't come to light? Ever heard of the
internet? If I can hear about fucking ThumbMan (which admittedly
brightened my life for a good 45 seconds), then I'm pretty sure I'll her
about the next Radiohead without Subpop telling me all about it. 

			 

			To me the main loss is the kids who are getting
all this music for free and therefore fail to appreciate what it's like
to work a shit job and save up for a few weeks to get the latest Led Zep
or to flesh out their Sabbath collection, walk home with a record
burning a hole in their bag, and then listen to it the whole way through
while looking at the artwork and smoking some oregano their mates sold
them as hash and having the single best day of their lives until the
lose their virginity, but I digress....

			 

			People losing jobs isn't nice to see, but that's
a whole different debate.

			 

			
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