[kj] OT: Implant

[Brendan Quinn]

You were implying that I was talking about people - specifically people of
different ethniticy - as termites, and that comes with all sorts of baggage,
so let's be pretty clear that's not what I was on about. In terms of my
language, well whatever takes your fancy, the borders are porous, it's just
how it is. By pointing it out I'm not bemoaning the fact that other races of
people are crossing those borders. There are issues of security, politics,
economics, and belief however that can't be ignored.

 

I'm not nationalistic and I'm not against people because of their ethnicity.
I am opposed to certain groups of people based on their belief system, which
happens to be correlated to some extent with ethnicity (muslim / arab for
example), but that's not why I oppose their entry into certain countries.

 

I am opposed to growing cliques of muslims in the UK. But I don't regard
them as termites or worthless people, it's the fact that according to them,
eventually me and everyone else like me has to be converted or killed, and
if I was a woman they'd have other shitty ideas about me that I'm totally
against. In terms of controlling their entry into particular countries and
their political power within those countries, I have a vested interest in
that, because I don't want to live in a country that treats me like that if
I don't share their faith.

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of folk devil
Sent: Saturday, 7 February 2009 11:26
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Implant

 

i was referring to those entering europe, coming from a 'barren' area.
 
National boundaries as in Nationalism , yes.
 
yep, read plenty of history, not quite sure where your 'antagonistic'
approach is coming from. 
 
sure, man has tried to control his fellow men for 1000s of years, now we
have plastic cards with magnetic strips to do it..and i'm sure there's a
1000 other ways, in a 1000 other comic books..
 
 
 
 

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From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:02:16 +1100
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Implant



If they can spot us in our living rooms from space, I am sure they will have
no problem seeing these '1000s' of transients roaming Europe

 

Nice theory, you can project manage the operation of monitoring every human
being on the planet via satellite. I'm sure we have enough satellites,
computer processing power and storage, and international political will and
co-operation to do it. 

 

Lovely semantics. They sound more like termites.

Different concepts have their own vernacular, don't blame me, I missed the
meeting where they came up with that one and they went ahead without me. And
last time I checked I wasn't involved in the third reich, so rest easy, I'm
not promoting genocide, and if I was I think I'd launch it from a grander
stage than a Killing Joke email list.

 

National boundaries are a relatively modern concept.

 

Territoriality and competition go back beyond the advent of our species.
Nationality might be relatively new (debatable) but it's just a question of
scale due to the increasing complexity and organisation of society. The
oldest cities in the world are roughly 10 000 years old from memory. Walled.

 

If 'primitive' man found himself in a barren land, he'd be looking for milk
and honey, instead.

 

We're talking about modern man not primitive man. Europe was occupied for
the first time.once. It's been occupied for a pretty long time now. And when
different tribes in the history of Europe have come into areas that are
already populated.you're read some history right? Rome and the Vikings and
all that.? 

 

And Europe's not barren, not last time I was there at least. Barren means
largely infertile, so if you're going off in search of milk and honey.good
luck in those barren areas.

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