From bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com  Thu Jan  1 11:41:41 2009
From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com (Bo Krogsgaard)
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 17:41:41 +0100
Subject: [kj] [OT] Wire...
In-Reply-To: <180993.28134.qm@web25906.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
References: <180993.28134.qm@web25906.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
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On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Has Bruce Gilbert's departure adversely affected the band? So far the
> material on Object 47 seems to be only slightly inferior to the earlier work
> that I've heard (and only very slightly... it's really very very good). What
> are the thoughts of more seasoned wireheads?

Departure? Colin more or less bullied him out of the band!

I cannot be objective about this since i love Bruce's works and he is
a friend of a friend, but yeah, Wire anno 2008 lacks.


b

PS: HAPPY NEW YEAR Gatherers!

From jpwhkj at aol.com  Thu Jan  1 12:55:24 2009
From: jpwhkj at aol.com (jpwhkj at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 12:55:24 -0500
Subject: [kj] The Right Stuff.......
In-Reply-To: <20081230192310.A960410542@mailwash5.pair.com>
Message-ID: <8CB3A5141AD8BA5-8E4-178C@webmail-me01.sysops.aol.com>

Yeah, both Hawkwind and ICU had a bit of habit of turning 3 minutes tracks into 20 minute ramblings.? Rarely a good idea!

Jamie


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Sent: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:23
Subject: Re: [kj] The Right Stuff.......




>There's a lot of good Hawkwind stuff... and Inner City Unit ditto.

>Anyone seen ICU (or whatever any of them are doing now) recently?

>Jamie

?

I saw ICU last year (I think ? or was it the year before ?) ? for old times sake ;o) ? Nik?s still doing a grand job of winding Dave Brock up, his latest venture is resurrecting the Hawklords name along with various other ex-Hawkfolk. Apparently they played a blinder at the Robert Calvert memorial night in Margate a few months back. I haven?t Space Ritual net recently ? the last time I got a bit bored about the time Psychedelic Warlords (or was it You shouldn?t do that ?) hit the 20 minute mark.

ICU were such a brilliant band in their heyday, though !!

Peter






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From: jpwhkj at aol.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Sent: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 9:13
Subject: Re: [kj] The Right Stuff.......


My personal faves are Spirit of the Age and?Motorhead.? And Silver Machine.

Jamie




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Sent: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:27
Subject: [kj] The Right
 Stuff.......


is Hawkwind best song,......even though it wasnt technically even by Hawkwind

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=v6vEBhjr1KIg







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From liszyleclercq at hotmail.com  Thu Jan  1 16:58:56 2009
From: liszyleclercq at hotmail.com (liszy le clercq)
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 22:58:56 +0100
Subject: [kj] To all a fine 2009!
Message-ID: <COL109-W506473ACB6D2308F1B7C14B9E50@phx.gbl>


 
Greetings from Liz from Amsterdam wishing you all a very happy new year!
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From killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com  Thu Jan  1 22:27:35 2009
From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com (The Exorcist)
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 22:27:35 -0500
Subject: [kj] To all a fine 2009!
In-Reply-To: <COL109-W506473ACB6D2308F1B7C14B9E50@phx.gbl>
References: <COL109-W506473ACB6D2308F1B7C14B9E50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <0KCT00HCWQY2EYI0@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

And the same to you. :)

At 04:58 PM 1/1/2009, liszy le clercq wrote:
>
>Greetings from Liz from Amsterdam wishing you all a very happy new year!
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From bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com  Fri Jan  2 05:14:20 2009
From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com (Bo Krogsgaard)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:14:20 +0100
Subject: [kj] To all a fine 2009!
In-Reply-To: <COL109-W506473ACB6D2308F1B7C14B9E50@phx.gbl>
References: <COL109-W506473ACB6D2308F1B7C14B9E50@phx.gbl>
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2009/1/1 liszy le clercq <liszyleclercq at hotmail.com>:

> Greetings from Liz from Amsterdam wishing you all a very happy new year!

And a big HAPPY NEW YEAR from the outskirts of Copenhagen! May your
dreams come true and the beer flow endlessly!


b

From jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk  Fri Jan  2 05:19:15 2009
From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk (jo)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 10:19:15 -0000
Subject: [kj] OT: Whips and Furs
Message-ID: <06ba01c96cc3$9055bb90$0100000a@jo>

Nice start to 2009:  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7806174.stm

From fluwdot at earthlink.net  Fri Jan  2 11:14:36 2009
From: fluwdot at earthlink.net (fluw)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 10:14:36 -0600
Subject: [kj] ot - first joke of 2009
Message-ID: <E1LImfV-0004eO-AP@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Towards the end of the golf course, Dave hit his ball into the woods and
found it in a patch of pretty yellow buttercups. Trying to get his ball back
in play, he ended up thrashing just about every buttercup in the patch. 
All of a sudden . . .POOF!! 
In a flash and puff of smoke, a little old woman appeared. She said, "I'm
Mother Nature! Do you know how long it took me to make those buttercups?
Just for doing what you have done, you won't have any butter for your
popcorn for the rest of your life:; better still, you won't have any butter
for your toast for the rest of your life... As a matter of fact, you'll
never have any butter for anything the rest of your life!!!" 
Then POOF! . . . she was gone! 
After Dave recovered from the shock, he hollered for his friend, "Fred,
where are you?" 
Fred yells back "I'm over here in the pussy willows." 
Dave shouts back, "DON'T SWING, FRED... FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, DON'T SWING!!!"

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From vassifer at earthlink.net  Fri Jan  2 11:28:26 2009
From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alexander Smith)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:28:26 -0500
Subject: [kj] ot - first joke of 2009
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References: <E1LImfV-0004eO-AP@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <B69E39DD-2A32-453A-A077-21A88516A585@earthlink.net>

BAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Thanks!

Alex in NYC


On Jan 2, 2009, at 11:14 AM, fluw wrote:

> Towards the end of the golf course, Dave hit his ball into the woods  
> and found it in a patch of pretty yellow buttercups. Trying to get  
> his ball back in play, he ended up thrashing just about every  
> buttercup in the patch.
> All of a sudden . . .POOF!!
> In a flash and puff of smoke, a little old woman appeared. She said,  
> "I'm Mother Nature! Do you know how long it took me to make those  
> buttercups? Just for doing what you have done, you won't have any  
> butter for your popcorn for the rest of your life:; better still,  
> you won't have any butter for your toast for the rest of your  
> life... As a matter of fact, you'll never have any butter for  
> anything the rest of your life!!!"
> Then POOF! . . . she was gone!
> After Dave recovered from the shock, he hollered for his friend,  
> "Fred, where are you?"
> Fred yells back "I'm over here in the pussy willows."
> Dave shouts back, "DON'T SWING, FRED... FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, DON'T  
> SWING!!!"
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From karen.weil at sddt.com  Fri Jan  2 15:28:46 2009
From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:28:46 -0800
Subject: [kj] To all a fine 2009!
References: <COL109-W506473ACB6D2308F1B7C14B9E50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <197F2F12043747628C1DDE8417F920AA@edweil>

Gelukkig Nieuwe Jaar, Liz! 

Groetjes,

KW

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  Subject: [kj] To all a fine 2009!


   
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From bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com  Fri Jan  2 15:48:13 2009
From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com (Bo Krogsgaard)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 21:48:13 +0100
Subject: [kj] ot - first joke of 2009
In-Reply-To: <E1LImfV-0004eO-AP@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <E1LImfV-0004eO-AP@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 5:14 PM, fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Dave shouts back, "DON'T SWING, FRED... FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, DON'T SWING!!!"

That fucking hit the spot! Cheers mate :)


b

From elipsis44 at hotmail.com  Fri Jan  2 21:38:25 2009
From: elipsis44 at hotmail.com (J Casavola)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 18:38:25 -0800
Subject: [kj] [OT] Wire...
In-Reply-To: <d4b79f970901010841q75e88914o1b5b13a8e94cd19b@mail.gmail.com>
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I like Object47, but it does contrast from Send / Read and Burn ( being a bit more Aggressive/ Progressive). I found Object47 to be more melodic and that would be ina good way.> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 17:41:41 +0100> From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com> To: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk; gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Wire...> > On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:> > > Has Bruce Gilbert's departure adversely affected the band? So far the> > material on Object 47 seems to be only slightly inferior to the earlier work> > that I've heard (and only very slightly... it's really very very good). What> > are the thoughts of more seasoned wireheads?> > Departure? Colin more or less bullied him out of the band!> > I cannot be objective about this since i love Bruce's works and he is> a friend of a friend, but yeah, Wire anno 2008 lacks.> > > b> > PS: HAPPY NEW YEAR Gatherers!> _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com  Sat Jan  3 03:23:49 2009
From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com (Bo Krogsgaard)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 09:23:49 +0100
Subject: [kj] [OT] Wire...
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On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 3:38 AM, J Casavola <elipsis44 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> I like Object47, but it does contrast from Send / Read and Burn ( being a
> bit more Aggressive/ Progressive). I found Object47 to be more melodic and
> that would be ina good way.

Must admit i only heard it a couple of times, but i really liked Send
and especially the Metro disc from the previous "incarnation" of Wire.
Then again, Bruce Gilbert could fart in a bucket and record it and i
would end up buying it.


b

From concrete_cookie at hotmail.com  Sun Jan  4 17:43:34 2009
From: concrete_cookie at hotmail.com (Concrete Cookie)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 14:43:34 -0800
Subject: [kj] Jaz & vocal effects
Message-ID: <BLU120-W43EB9A36217809D21CF5793E00@phx.gbl>




Can anyone out there help?  Looking for a software version to beef up some vox...

Post Pandemonium... 

??

cheers!


k

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From go1845 at yahoo.com  Sun Jan  4 22:23:40 2009
From: go1845 at yahoo.com (Geoffrey ODonoghue)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 19:23:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] Fav song of 2008.
Message-ID: <794945.11752.qm@web54605.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Given the restriction to songs available on youtube, this is my favourite:
?
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=mfT1A5Caq84
?
Opeth - Porcelain Heart


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From Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk  Mon Jan  5 06:37:52 2009
From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk (Janean Lancaster)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 11:37:52 -0000
Subject: [kj] Fav song of 2008.
Message-ID: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232D95E@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal>

Mine.  YouTube or otherwise:

 

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kS1CW_kiXUI

 

Happy New Year and that.  How crap it is to be back (at work, that is
:-) )

 

Cheers,

Janean

 

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Subject: Re: [kj] Fav song of 2008.

 

Given the restriction to songs available on youtube, this is my
favourite:

 

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=mfT1A5Caq84

 

Opeth - Porcelain Heart

 

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From Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk  Mon Jan  5 08:44:28 2009
From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk (Phillipps Marc)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 13:44:28 -0000
Subject: [kj] Jaz & vocal effects
References: <BLU120-W43EB9A36217809D21CF5793E00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BD60B2A89D16094897629D4CCC50B1CB3A48FF@ED01VN01.NCL-HIS.NHS.UK>

>Can anyone out there help?  Looking for a software version to beef up
some vox...

 

Sounds like distortion . . I always got good results with a Marshall
Guvnor pedal (as long as you can tame the feedback)

 

Antares Avox was rather good and had tube emulation, it is probably
still available somewhere on the net (here for example
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/3386840/AVOX.Vocal.Kit.Bundle.VST.v1.02.
)

 

Otherwise, try running the vocals through something like Amplitube or
Guitar Rig, that should give some interesting effects (and a lot of
noise!) 

 

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Sent: 04 January 2009 22:44
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Subject: [kj] Jaz & vocal effects

 



Can anyone out there help?  Looking for a software version to beef up
some vox...

Post Pandemonium... 

??

cheers!


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From folk.devil at hotmail.com  Mon Jan  5 18:48:20 2009
From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 15:48:20 -0800
Subject: [kj] The sound of crickets?
Message-ID: <BLU117-W2A231BAB3D9124F053CEF9DE10@phx.gbl>


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From fluwdot at earthlink.net  Mon Jan  5 19:48:57 2009
From: fluwdot at earthlink.net (fluw)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 18:48:57 -0600
Subject: [kj] The sound of crickets?
In-Reply-To: <BLU117-W2A231BAB3D9124F053CEF9DE10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <E1LK07x-0001lB-6b@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

With or without buddy holly?

 

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Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 5:48 PM
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] The sound of crickets?

 

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From folk.devil at hotmail.com  Mon Jan  5 20:40:46 2009
From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 17:40:46 -0800
Subject: [kj] The sound of crickets?
In-Reply-To: <E1LK07x-0001lB-6b@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <BLU117-W2A231BAB3D9124F053CEF9DE10@phx.gbl>
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crawling all over him! ;)

did the list implode?

From: fluwdot at earthlink.net
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 18:48:57 -0600
Subject: Re: [kj] The sound of crickets?



















With or without buddy holly?

 









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Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009
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Subject: [kj] The sound of
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From elipsis44 at hotmail.com  Mon Jan  5 21:22:35 2009
From: elipsis44 at hotmail.com (J Casavola)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 18:22:35 -0800
Subject: [kj] Jaz & vocal effects
In-Reply-To: <BD60B2A89D16094897629D4CCC50B1CB3A48FF@ED01VN01.NCL-HIS.NHS.UK>
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lots of reverb!!

Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 13:44:28 +0000From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.ukTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] Jaz & vocal effects






>Can anyone out there help?  Looking for a software version to beef up some vox...
 
Sounds like distortion . . I always got good results with a Marshall Guvnor pedal (as long as you can tame the feedback)
 
Antares Avox was rather good and had tube emulation, it is probably still available somewhere on the net (here for example http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/3386840/AVOX.Vocal.Kit.Bundle.VST.v1.02.)
 
Otherwise, try running the vocals through something like Amplitube or Guitar Rig, that should give some interesting effects (and a lot of noise!) 
 




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Can anyone out there help?  Looking for a software version to beef up some vox...Post Pandemonium... ??cheers!k



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From fluwdot at earthlink.net  Mon Jan  5 21:33:36 2009
From: fluwdot at earthlink.net (fluw)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 20:33:36 -0600
Subject: [kj] ot - shred dude
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Hahaha!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdFJTbaFcZ0

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From fluwdot at earthlink.net  Mon Jan  5 21:40:51 2009
From: fluwdot at earthlink.net (fluw)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 20:40:51 -0600
Subject: [kj] ot - mother
Message-ID: <E1LK1sF-0004Za-4m@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Music affects everyone differently and I have to say this version is close
to how I hear the "legit" version

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2CrF_yXH0k

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From folk.devil at hotmail.com  Mon Jan  5 21:47:32 2009
From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 18:47:32 -0800
Subject: [kj] ot - mother
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hahahA! 

For some bizarre reason, I kept thinking of 'turn blue' by iggy pop....maybe if it had been put on 'zombie birdhouse'? :P
Mother!!!

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 20:40:51 -0600
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Music affects everyone differently and I have to say this
version is close to how I hear the ?legit? version

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2CrF_yXH0k


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From angrytomhanks at yahoo.com  Tue Jan  6 01:12:50 2009
From: angrytomhanks at yahoo.com (Leigh Newton)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 22:12:50 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] ot - shred dude
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So good. So good. Soooooooooooooooooooooooo fucking good. 

St. Sanders 4 LIFE.

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Hahaha!
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdFJTbaFcZ0


      
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From squibah at aol.com  Tue Jan  6 10:34:23 2009
From: squibah at aol.com (squibah at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 10:34:23 -0500
Subject: [kj] Ron Ashton...R.I.P.
Message-ID: <8CB3E2B62D072C7-C68-2BC@WEBMAIL-DY29.sysops.aol.com>

I just heard the news that Ron Ashton died today in Michigan at the age of 60 from an apparent heart attack. Another great gone.
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From vassifer at earthlink.net  Tue Jan  6 11:27:59 2009
From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alex Smith)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 11:27:59 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [kj] Ron Ashton...R.I.P.
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From elana_mojica at yahoo.com  Tue Jan  6 12:12:14 2009
From: elana_mojica at yahoo.com (Elana Mojica)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 09:12:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] Ron Ashton...R.I.P.
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Oh that sucks! :(




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I just heard the news that Ron Ashton died today in Michigan at the age of 60 from an apparent heart attack. Another great gone.
                                                                                 



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From LONESTYLE at aol.com  Tue Jan  6 13:52:36 2009
From: LONESTYLE at aol.com (LONESTYLE at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 13:52:36 EST
Subject: [kj] Ron Ashton...R.I.P.
Message-ID: <cbe.317764ad.36950274@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 1/6/2009 7:35:07 AM Pacific Standard Time,  
squibah at aol.com writes:

I just heard the news that Ron Ashton died  today in Michigan at the age of 
60 from an apparent heart attack. Another  great  gone.



Fuck! That sucks! Right when The Stooges were back together.
 
RIP
 
 
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From dpeace at bigfoot.com  Tue Jan  6 13:52:31 2009
From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 18:52:31 -0000
Subject: [kj] Ron Ashton...R.I.P.
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Sorry, but who the fuck is Ron Ashton?

 

Darren

Hungerford, UK

 

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Sent: 06 January 2009 15:34
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] Ron Ashton...R.I.P.

 

I just heard the news that Ron Ashton died today in Michigan at the age of
60 from an apparent heart attack. Another great gone.
 


 

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From LONESTYLE at aol.com  Tue Jan  6 13:58:30 2009
From: LONESTYLE at aol.com (LONESTYLE at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 13:58:30 EST
Subject: [kj] OT Ron Asheton RIP
Message-ID: <c1b.429709d3.369503d6@aol.com>

There is more here. Damn, they did not find his body for several  days!
 
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From circusbar at uol.com.br  Tue Jan  6 14:06:03 2009
From: circusbar at uol.com.br (Circus Bar)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:06:03 -0200
Subject: [kj] Ron Ashton...R.I.P.
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RIP


d i a z

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From marsboy1 at msn.com  Tue Jan  6 14:13:48 2009
From: marsboy1 at msn.com (Matthew Burke)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 14:13:48 -0500
Subject: [kj] Ron Ashton...R.I.P.
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Very bummed about this one.  Pleased I was able to see them a couple times over the past few years.  The riffs that launched a thousand punks.
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From thepunisher at blueyonder.co.uk  Tue Jan  6 14:15:56 2009
From: thepunisher at blueyonder.co.uk (Steve Hackett)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 19:15:56 -0000
Subject: [kj] Ron Ashton...R.I.P.
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I was really shocked to hear this earlier today - RIP Ron . I'm off to watch some Stooges
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  Very sad. I mentioned this to some of my co-workers and none of them gave even the slightest glint of recognition. Pathetic. 



  Alex in NYC




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    I just heard the news that Ron Ashton died today in Michigan at the age of 60 from an apparent heart attack. Another great gone.
                                                                                     



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From wessidetempest at hotmail.com  Tue Jan  6 14:23:37 2009
From: wessidetempest at hotmail.com (Christof hamille)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 14:23:37 -0500
Subject: [kj] Ron Ashton...R.I.P.
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wow.  Really bummed out.  I'm a bit surprised it was him and not his brother as he has not been looking good lately (health wise).  I have some friends that will be really bummed.  Wow.  Super super super nice guy.

at least it all came back around.  He really wanted that for a while.

Chris

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To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 14:13:48 -0500
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Very bummed about this one.  Pleased I was able to see them a couple times over the past few years.  The riffs that launched a thousand punks.

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From sneakypete at uwclub.net  Tue Jan  6 14:27:57 2009
From: sneakypete at uwclub.net (Peter Moltesen)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 19:27:57 -0000
Subject: [kj] Ron Ashton...R.I.P.
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From gingoblin at easynet.co.uk  Tue Jan  6 15:35:38 2009
From: gingoblin at easynet.co.uk (gingoblin at easynet.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:35:38 +0000
Subject: [kj] Ron Asheton...R.I.P.
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What a start to the year...

The Stooges were fucking great the times I've seen 'em in recent years... 
sad to think it's never gonna happen again. The riffs however, live on 
forever...

Dave in Edinburgh




From vassifer at earthlink.net  Tue Jan  6 16:36:43 2009
From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alex Smith)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 16:36:43 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [kj] Ron Asheton...R.I.P.
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I had the pleasure of seeing the Stooges for this first time alongside the great Gingoblin Dave, actually. Great show.

Alex in NYC


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>What a start to the year...
>
>The Stooges were fucking great the times I've seen 'em in recent years... 
>sad to think it's never gonna happen again. The riffs however, live on 
>forever...
>
>Dave in Edinburgh
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From gingoblin at easynet.co.uk  Wed Jan  7 11:17:22 2009
From: gingoblin at easynet.co.uk (gingoblin at easynet.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:17:22 +0000
Subject: [kj] The Right Stuff.......
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A bit late with this reply due to hiding from the festive season...

Judge Trev is indeed still doing the odd gig with Nik as Inner City Unit... 
the one I got hold of on video was pretty poor though, seems Nik is the 
king of under-rehearsal!! Judge Trev's ICU album "Now You Know The Score" 
has some great moments though... er, which came out in 1997, not quite as 
recent as I thought!!

Steve Pond and Dead Fred did some great stuff as the Maximum Effect 
(http://www.myspace.com/themaximumeffect  )which has recently morphed into 
Krankschaft... you can d/load their set at the Bob Calvert memorial gig at 
http://www.doremi.co.uk/krankschaft/   It's great stuff!!  I'm really 
hoping for some new stuff from them soon.

And Hawkwind have been excellent last few times I've seen 'em. And the 
times before that actually!!!

Dave in Edinburgh




At 04:36 30/12/2008 -0500, you wrote:
>And "Right To Decide".
>
>There's a lot of good Hawkwind stuff... and Inner City Unit ditto.
>
>Anyone seen ICU (or whatever any of them are doing now) recently?
>
>Jamie
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>
>
>
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>My personal faves are Spirit of the Age and Motorhead.  And Silver Machine.
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>
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>is Hawkwind best song,......even though it wasnt technically even by Hawkwind
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From antoni at clara.net  Wed Jan  7 14:20:57 2009
From: antoni at clara.net (pssyche23)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 19:20:57 -0000
Subject: [kj] Ron Asheton...R.I.P.
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I would like to think the BBC might air that legendary recent "Glastonbury"
set again with the stage invasion ... I too am glad that I went to the Get
Loaded In The Park 2008 where Iggy & The Stooges headlined ... I'm not able
to get to many gigs these days therefore it was the only time I saw them ...
though I did catch a Primal Scream "after show" set at the Brixton Academy a
few years back when Ron & Scott came on stage with Bobby Gillespie to steam
through a few Stooges numbers ... it may have preceded the reunion shows ...

typically I screw up with these things ... after Arthur Lee was released
from the slammer in late 2001 after a firearms conviction, he hit the road
with Love (okay, it was just Lee and other musicians) I kept bombing out
their numerous London shows for various reasons ... then he died ... damn it


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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Alex Smith
Sent: 06 January 2009 21:37
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); A list about all
things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Ron Asheton...R.I.P.


I had the pleasure of seeing the Stooges for this first time alongside the
great Gingoblin Dave, actually. Great show.

Alex in NYC


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>From: gingoblin at easynet.co.uk
>Sent: Jan 6, 2009 3:35 PM
>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
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>Subject: Re: [kj] Ron Asheton...R.I.P.
>
>What a start to the year...
>
>The Stooges were fucking great the times I've seen 'em in recent years... 
>sad to think it's never gonna happen again. The riffs however, live on 
>forever...
>
>Dave in Edinburgh
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From wessidetempest at hotmail.com  Wed Jan  7 14:47:49 2009
From: wessidetempest at hotmail.com (Christof hamille)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 14:47:49 -0500
Subject: [kj] Ron Asheton...R.I.P.
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I never got a chance to see them.  I was apprehensive at first.  I was hapy for the brothers but Iggy put a bad taste in my mouth about it.  His career was lackluster at best by that point and he said some pretty shitty things about them in the past.  The first time they played near Detroit was the day of the great blackout.  Second time they played at a excellent venue called the Fox but tix were $50 and I couldn't float it at the time.  Third time I had tix but had to work late and I curse that fucking awful job.
A bit bummed I didn't get to see them.  Again not because of Iggy but because the Ashetons were so into it and deserve a lot more then what they were dealt with over the years.

I gurantee there will be someting big in Detroit to celebrate him.  I hope there isn't some retarded tribute band but I wouldn't doubt it.  The turn out for the Rob Tyner thing years ago was...........yeah.  Anyway if they do they need to ask Williamson.  I know many do not consider him a legit Stooge but I think he should get some credit.

Anyway.  He was kind and never egotistical.

Rock on

Chris

> From: antoni at clara.net
> To: vassifer at earthlink.net; gathering at misera.net
> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 19:20:57 +0000
> Subject: Re: [kj] Ron Asheton...R.I.P.
> 
> 
> I would like to think the BBC might air that legendary recent "Glastonbury"
> set again with the stage invasion ... I too am glad that I went to the Get
> Loaded In The Park 2008 where Iggy & The Stooges headlined ... I'm not able
> to get to many gigs these days therefore it was the only time I saw them ...
> though I did catch a Primal Scream "after show" set at the Brixton Academy a
> few years back when Ron & Scott came on stage with Bobby Gillespie to steam
> through a few Stooges numbers ... it may have preceded the reunion shows ...
> 
> typically I screw up with these things ... after Arthur Lee was released
> from the slammer in late 2001 after a firearms conviction, he hit the road
> with Love (okay, it was just Lee and other musicians) I kept bombing out
> their numerous London shows for various reasons ... then he died ... damn it
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
> Behalf Of Alex Smith
> Sent: 06 January 2009 21:37
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); A list about all
> things Killing Joke (the band!)
> Subject: Re: [kj] Ron Asheton...R.I.P.
> 
> 
> I had the pleasure of seeing the Stooges for this first time alongside the
> great Gingoblin Dave, actually. Great show.
> 
> Alex in NYC
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: gingoblin at easynet.co.uk
> >Sent: Jan 6, 2009 3:35 PM
> >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> <gathering at misera.net>
> >Subject: Re: [kj] Ron Asheton...R.I.P.
> >
> >What a start to the year...
> >
> >The Stooges were fucking great the times I've seen 'em in recent years... 
> >sad to think it's never gonna happen again. The riffs however, live on 
> >forever...
> >
> >Dave in Edinburgh
> >
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From folk.devil at hotmail.com  Wed Jan  7 15:15:35 2009
From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 12:15:35 -0800
Subject: [kj] Ron Asheton...R.I.P.
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I do, but the first 2 albums were the best 2!

From: wessidetempest at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.net; vassifer at earthlink.netDate: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 14:47:49 -0500Subject: Re: [kj] Ron Asheton...R.I.P.

  Anyway if they do they need to ask Williamson.  I know many do not consider him a legit Stooge but I think he should get some credit.Anyway.  He was kind and never egotistical.Rock onChris
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From vassifer at earthlink.net  Wed Jan  7 15:29:25 2009
From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alex Smith)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 15:29:25 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [kj] Ron Asheton...R.I.P.
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From jagargal at lycos.com  Wed Jan  7 19:05:33 2009
From: jagargal at lycos.com (jagargal)
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 19:05:33 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [kj] To all a fine 2009!
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From folk.devil at hotmail.com  Wed Jan  7 19:10:17 2009
From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:10:17 -0800
Subject: [kj] Ron Asheton...R.I.P.
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because it is less harmful than smak?

Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 15:29:25 -0500From: vassifer at earthlink.netTo: gathering at misera.net; gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] Ron Asheton...R.I.P.


I want to say I heard that James W. has found Christ or something, no?
Alex in NYC
-----Original Message----- From: folk devil Sent: Jan 7, 2009 3:15 PM To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Ron Asheton...R.I.P. 

I do, but the first 2 albums were the best 2!

From: wessidetempest at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.net; vassifer at earthlink.netDate: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 14:47:49 -0500Subject: Re: [kj] Ron Asheton...R.I.P.

  Anyway if they do they need to ask Williamson.  I know many do not consider him a legit Stooge but I think he should get some credit.Anyway.  He was kind and never egotistical.Rock onChris

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From Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk  Thu Jan  8 04:42:50 2009
From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk (Phillipps Marc)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 09:42:50 -0000
Subject: [kj] Ron Asheton...R.I.P.
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>I want to say I heard that James W. has found Christ or something, no?

 

I know he went back into electronics  . . haven't heard about the God
thing though?

 

 

 

________________________________

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of Alex Smith
Sent: 07 January 2009 20:29
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!);
gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Ron Asheton...R.I.P.

 

I want to say I heard that James W. has found Christ or something, no?

Alex in NYC



	-----Original Message----- 
	From: folk devil 
	Sent: Jan 7, 2009 3:15 PM 
	To: gathering at misera.net 
	Subject: Re: [kj] Ron Asheton...R.I.P. 
	
	I do, but the first 2 albums were the best 2!

	
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	From: wessidetempest at hotmail.com
	To: gathering at misera.net; vassifer at earthlink.net
	Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 14:47:49 -0500
	Subject: Re: [kj] Ron Asheton...R.I.P.
	
	  Anyway if they do they need to ask Williamson.  I know many do
not consider him a legit Stooge but I think he should get some credit.
	
	Anyway.  He was kind and never egotistical.
	
	Rock on
	
	Chris
	
	

	
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From fatpotanga at gmail.com  Thu Jan  8 04:52:31 2009
From: fatpotanga at gmail.com (fatpotanga)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 09:52:31 +0000
Subject: [kj] Ron Asheton...R.I.P.
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On 8 Jan 2009, at 09:42, Phillipps Marc wrote:

> I know he went back into electronics  . . haven?t heard about the  
> God thing though?

perhaps he found the holy ghost in the machine...?


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From Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk  Thu Jan  8 05:44:31 2009
From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk (Phillipps Marc)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 10:44:31 -0000
Subject: [kj] Ron Asheton...R.I.P.
References: <5365764.1231360166117.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net><BD60B2A89D16094897629D4CCC50B1CB3A4910@ED01VN01.NCL-HIS.NHS.UK>
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>perhaps he found the holy ghost in the machine...?

 

He felt the wattage of God!! 

 

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On Behalf Of fatpotanga
Sent: 08 January 2009 09:53
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Ron Asheton...R.I.P.

 

On 8 Jan 2009, at 09:42, Phillipps Marc wrote:





I know he went back into electronics  . . haven't heard about the God
thing though?

 

perhaps he found the holy ghost in the machine...?



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From jpwhkj at aol.com  Thu Jan  8 18:31:38 2009
From: jpwhkj at aol.com (jpwhkj at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:31:38 -0500
Subject: [kj] The Right Stuff.......
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Now You Know The Score has its moments, doesn't it?? And I seem to recall seeing them circa 97/98.

I certainly saw a lot of Maximum Effect in 1986... great band (espec with Calvert).? Must check out Krankshaft...

Jamie


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Sent: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:17
Subject: Re: [kj] The Right Stuff.......


A bit late with this reply due to hiding from the festive season...?
?
Judge Trev is indeed still doing the odd gig with Nik as Inner City Unit... the one I got hold of on video was pretty poor though, seems Nik is the king of under-rehearsal!! Judge Trev's ICU album "Now You Know The Score" has some great moments though... er, which came out in 1997, not quite as recent as I thought!!?
?
Steve Pond and Dead Fred did some great stuff as the Maximum Effect (http://www.myspace.com/themaximumeffect )which has recently morphed into Krankschaft... you can d/load their set at the Bob Calvert memorial gig at http://www.doremi.co.uk/krankschaft/ It's great stuff!! I'm really hoping for some new stuff from them soon.?
?
And Hawkwind have been excellent last few times I've seen 'em. And the times before that actually!!!?
?
Dave in Edinburgh?
?
?
At 04:36 30/12/2008 -0500, you wrote:?
>And "Right To Decide".?
>?
>There's a lot of good Hawkwind stuff... and Inner City Unit ditto.?
>?
>Anyone seen ICU (or whatever any of them are doing now) recently??
>?
>Jamie?
>?
>?
>?
>?
>-----Original Message-----?
>From: jpwhkj at aol.com?
>To: gathering at misera.net?
>Sent: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 9:13?
>Subject: Re: [kj] The Right Stuff.......?
>?
>My personal faves are Spirit of the Age and Motorhead. And Silver Machine.?
>?
>Jamie?
>?
>?
>?
>-----Original Message-----?
>From: fluke fluke <<mailto:fluke1 at live.co.uk>fluke1 at live.co.uk>?
>To: <mailto:gathering at misera.net>gathering at misera.net?
>Sent: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:27?
>Subject: [kj] The Right Stuff.......?
>?
>is Hawkwind best song,......even though it wasnt technically even by Hawkwind?
>?
><http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=v6vEBhjr1KIg>http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=v6vEBhjr1KIg?
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From rkpettiford at yahoo.com  Fri Jan  9 09:27:20 2009
From: rkpettiford at yahoo.com (rkpettiford at yahoo.com)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 03:27:20 +1300
Subject: [kj] Stuff.co.nz - Eco-bulb hazards reported
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From bawhitehead at gmail.com  Fri Jan  9 11:07:48 2009
From: bawhitehead at gmail.com (Brian Whitehead)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 16:07:48 +0000
Subject: [kj] [OT] Wire...
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For those interested.
They play London Jan 21

Wire gig<http://www.ticketweb.co.uk/user/?region=gb_london&query=detail&event=301753&REFID=wiretwmf>

Strange the talk of wire as I'm also trying _again_ to see if I can 'get
it'. Starting with 154

Brian.

Oh happy new year. Late as ever.



2008/12/31 Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>

> Due to thevarious wire-related links that have been popping up recently,
> I've taken the long-overdue leap of actually giving the band a serious
> listen. I've always loved Map Ref, but some of the other stuff isn't quite
> so immediate, so I've shied away from checking them out. However, two of the
> recent postings- One Of Us and Comet are both quite excellent, so I'm
> delving a little further. Which leads me to one question:
>
> Has Bruce Gilbert's departure adversely affected the band? So far the
> material on Object 47 seems to be only slightly inferior to the earlier work
> that I've heard (and only very slightly... it's really very very good). What
> are the thoughts of more seasoned wireheads?
>
> Jim.
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From folk.devil at hotmail.com  Fri Jan  9 15:00:37 2009
From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 12:00:37 -0800
Subject: [kj] [OT] Wire...
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try:
Chairs missing
154
A bell is a cup, until it's struck
The ideal copy
 
:D
 



Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 16:07:48 +0000From: bawhitehead at gmail.comTo: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk; gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] [OT] Wire...For those interested.They play London Jan 21Wire gigStrange the talk of wire as I'm also trying _again_ to see if I can 'get it'. Starting with 154Brian.Oh happy new year. Late as ever.
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From fatpotanga at gmail.com  Fri Jan  9 15:07:12 2009
From: fatpotanga at gmail.com (fatpotanga)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 20:07:12 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
Message-ID: <8BF4DB25-7FD3-4E78-B475-5CA7BAFF54F2@gmail.com>

ha ha!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7818980.stm

From folk.devil at hotmail.com  Fri Jan  9 15:09:05 2009
From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 12:09:05 -0800
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
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it's the puff of logic..lol!> From: fatpotanga at gmail.com> To: gathering at misera.net> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 20:07:12 +0000> Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?> > ha ha!> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7818980.stm> _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Fri Jan  9 16:10:44 2009
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 21:10:44 +0000
Subject: [kj] To all a fine 2009!
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same here i am late, i have been busy since 24th dec and had the bst new years eve night out for many a year defo one to remember  ;)--then few days later caught flue ;(that will teach me having fun 12 days in a row lol theres always a price to pay ha-ha----any way,its late but still --happy new year to all ok--and happy chineese new year---which is about in 2 weeks time ;D
 



From: jagargal at lycos.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 19:05:33 -0500Subject: Re: [kj] To all a fine 2009!I was busy like hell through the last weeks of the year (ok, the last one was for vacation) and was unable to check my messages, and i don't think i'll read the almost 600 gathering messages in my inbox. But what i want to do is wish you all guys a great 2009... the start isn't very promising with all this worlwide crisis, but what the hell!! Money is not God!!. My very best wishes to you all!!! Javier Mexico city
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From dwish2000 at hotmail.com  Fri Jan  9 17:17:49 2009
From: dwish2000 at hotmail.com (drunk wish)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 22:17:49 +0000
Subject: [kj] [OT] Wire...
In-Reply-To: <BLU117-W34B8423D1225275DEF343A9DDD0@phx.gbl>
References: <180993.28134.qm@web25906.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <COL102-W494B01A607E29EC2A39697ACDD0@phx.gbl>


Someone on a Killing Joke mailing list trying to "get" Wire? 

Download Mr. Marx's Table from Send immediately.

T.

From: folk.devil at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 12:00:37 -0800
Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Wire...








try:

Chairs missing

154

A bell is a cup, until it's struck

The ideal copy

 

:D



 





Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 16:07:48 +0000
From: bawhitehead at gmail.com
To: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk; gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Wire...

For those interested.
They play London Jan 21

Wire gig

Strange the talk of wire as I'm also trying _again_ to see if I can 'get it'. Starting with 154

Brian.

Oh happy new year. Late as ever.





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From circusbar at uol.com.br  Fri Jan  9 15:22:26 2009
From: circusbar at uol.com.br (Circus Bar)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 18:22:26 -0200
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
References: <8BF4DB25-7FD3-4E78-B475-5CA7BAFF54F2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <009a01c97297$fd7cc310$1201010a@jokers>

I enjoyed this campaign!!

I?m tired of only seeing things related to jesus salvation and/or damnation!!!

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From gregslawson at msn.com  Fri Jan  9 22:55:14 2009
From: gregslawson at msn.com (GREG SLAWSON)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 22:55:14 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
In-Reply-To: <009a01c97297$fd7cc310$1201010a@jokers>
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	<009a01c97297$fd7cc310$1201010a@jokers>
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You fucking Brits are so fucking lucky to get these wonderful billboards on your fucking busses. We Amerikkkans would never be so lucky; far too many anti-science religious brainwashed lunatics here to ever allow it. Power to Richard Dawkins! (His book actually sold well here)...

From: circusbar at uol.com.brTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 18:22:26 -0200Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?


I enjoyed this campaign!!
 
I?m tired of only seeing things related to jesus salvation and/or damnation!!!
 
d i a z
 
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From lennonka at gmail.com  Sat Jan 10 07:05:44 2009
From: lennonka at gmail.com (Lennonka)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 13:05:44 +0100
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
In-Reply-To: <009a01c97297$fd7cc310$1201010a@jokers>
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I'm tired of seeing that Jesus is considered the God.
Cool campaign, though, it must have been easing : )

On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Circus Bar <circusbar at uol.com.br> wrote:

>  I enjoyed this campaign!!
>
> I?m tired of only seeing things related to jesus salvation and/or
> damnation!!!
>
> d i a z
>
>
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From bawhitehead at gmail.com  Sat Jan 10 07:31:08 2009
From: bawhitehead at gmail.com (Brian Whitehead)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:31:08 +0000
Subject: [kj] [OT] Wire...
In-Reply-To: <COL102-W494B01A607E29EC2A39697ACDD0@phx.gbl>
References: <180993.28134.qm@web25906.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
	<7454a99b0901090807i6caaf7adx7c70a485aa3bdde2@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU117-W34B8423D1225275DEF343A9DDD0@phx.gbl>
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Message-ID: <7454a99b0901100431r5767f2c7u2ece663da5d8850d@mail.gmail.com>

Why the "?".
Being a KJ fan should I be automatically be into wire? Maybe "get" was the
wrong word?
My mate would play Pink Flag continuously and although it was OK that's all
it was to me. 30 years later who knows?

Thanks for the recommendation, I'll buy a copy of Send from ebay
immediately.

Brian.

2009/1/9 drunk wish <dwish2000 at hotmail.com>

>  Someone on a Killing Joke mailing list trying to "get" Wire?
>
> Download Mr. Marx's Table from Send immediately.
>
> T.
>
> ------------------------------
> From: folk.devil at hotmail.com
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 12:00:37 -0800
>
> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Wire...
>
> try:
> Chairs missing
> 154
> A bell is a cup, until it's struck
> The ideal copy
>
> :D
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 16:07:48 +0000
> From: bawhitehead at gmail.com
> To: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk; gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Wire...
>
> For those interested.
> They play London Jan 21
>
> Wire gig<http://www.ticketweb.co.uk/user/?region=gb_london&query=detail&event=301753&REFID=wiretwmf>
>
> Strange the talk of wire as I'm also trying _again_ to see if I can 'get
> it'. Starting with 154
>
> Brian.
>
> Oh happy new year. Late as ever.
>
>
>
>
>
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From heiferboy at robinsonworld.freeserve.co.uk  Sat Jan 10 09:07:44 2009
From: heiferboy at robinsonworld.freeserve.co.uk (Stephen Robinson)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 14:07:44 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
In-Reply-To: <BAY125-W12F59A4EEFB0FC57CCEEAEA9DA0@phx.gbl>
References: <8BF4DB25-7FD3-4E78-B475-5CA7BAFF54F2@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <0D796849-7F44-42ED-A6CF-0FE0927C7E3A@robinsonworld.freeserve.co.uk>

And we have Charles Darwin on our back notes!


On 10 Jan 2009, at 03:55, GREG SLAWSON wrote:

> You fucking Brits are so fucking lucky to get these wonderful  
> billboards on your fucking busses. We Amerikkkans would never be so  
> lucky; far too many anti-science religious brainwashed lunatics  
> here to ever allow it. Power to Richard Dawkins! (His book actually  
> sold well here)...
>
> From: circusbar at uol.com.br
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 18:22:26 -0200
> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?
>
> I enjoyed this campaign!!
>
> I?m tired of only seeing things related to jesus salvation and/or  
> damnation!!!
>
> d i a z
>
>
> Windows Live? Hotmail?: Chat. Store. Share. Do more with mail.  
> Check it out.
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> Gathering mailing list
> Gathering at misera.net
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From fluwdot at earthlink.net  Sat Jan 10 09:30:22 2009
From: fluwdot at earthlink.net (fluw)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 08:30:22 -0600
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
In-Reply-To: <0D796849-7F44-42ED-A6CF-0FE0927C7E3A@robinsonworld.freeserve.co.uk>
Message-ID: <E1LLer5-0000Q8-LO@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

You are all going to hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  _____  

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Stephen Robinson
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 8:08 AM
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?

 

And we have Charles Darwin on our back notes!

 

 

On 10 Jan 2009, at 03:55, GREG SLAWSON wrote:





You fucking Brits are so fucking lucky to get these wonderful billboards on
your fucking busses. We Amerikkkans would never be so lucky; far too many
anti-science religious brainwashed lunatics here to ever allow it. Power to
Richard Dawkins! (His book actually sold well here)...

  _____  

From: circusbar at uol.com.br
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 18:22:26 -0200
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?

I enjoyed this campaign!!

 

I?m tired of only seeing things related to jesus salvation and/or
damnation!!!

 

d i a z

 

 

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From frenchyfrenzy at free.fr  Sat Jan 10 09:34:11 2009
From: frenchyfrenzy at free.fr (Frenchy Frenzy)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:34:11 +0100
Subject: [kj]  TEST
Message-ID: <20090110143409.C6C70D48028@smtp5-g21.free.fr>

 

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From stephen.l at live.com  Sat Jan 10 10:07:25 2009
From: stephen.l at live.com (Stephen Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:07:25 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
In-Reply-To: <E1LLer5-0000Q8-LO@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <0D796849-7F44-42ED-A6CF-0FE0927C7E3A@robinsonworld.freeserve.co.uk>
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Message-ID: <BAY132-W324B2EAB8768EAEF743A4D90DA0@phx.gbl>


yes we all do it's the mass grave of the world the question is will we be ressurected to be judged not worthy and be put back in the ground or will we get a second chance god only knows that answer but we are required to follow his commandments , show love for one another and worship him by bible study and prayer but the majority of us are self seeking sinners will he forgive us ??? he knows more about us than ourselves so maybe  we shall see to all the non believers signs will be given before the world is cleansed so you will have no excuse....

From: fluwdot at earthlink.netTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 08:30:22 -0600Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?







You are all going to hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Stephen RobinsonSent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 8:08 AMTo: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?
 
And we have Charles Darwin on our back notes!

 

 


On 10 Jan 2009, at 03:55, GREG SLAWSON wrote:

You fucking Brits are so fucking lucky to get these wonderful billboards on your fucking busses. We Amerikkkans would never be so lucky; far too many anti-science religious brainwashed lunatics here to ever allow it. Power to Richard Dawkins! (His book actually sold well here)...



From: circusbar at uol.com.brTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 18:22:26 -0200Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?

I enjoyed this campaign!!

 

I?m tired of only seeing things related to jesus salvation and/or damnation!!!

 

d i a z

 
 



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From daxford at rogers.com  Sat Jan 10 11:13:06 2009
From: daxford at rogers.com (Dave Axford)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:13:06 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
References: <0D796849-7F44-42ED-A6CF-0FE0927C7E3A@robinsonworld.freeserve.co.uk><E1LLer5-0000Q8-LO@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<BAY132-W324B2EAB8768EAEF743A4D90DA0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <89FA106FCA2141388E25BAC725334573@dave>


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Stephen Lawrence 
  To: gathering at misera.net 
  Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:07 AM
  Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?


  yes we all do it's the mass grave of the world the question is will we be ressurected to be judged not worthy and be put back in the ground or will we get a second chance god only knows that answer but we are required to follow his commandments , show love for one another and worship him by bible study and prayer but the majority of us are self seeking sinners will he forgive us ??? he knows more about us than ourselves so maybe  we shall see to all the non believers signs will be given before the world is cleansed so you will have no excuse....


  Yada, yada, yada....
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From gregslawson at msn.com  Sat Jan 10 12:15:36 2009
From: gregslawson at msn.com (GREG SLAWSON)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:15:36 -0500
Subject: [kj] [OT] Wire...
In-Reply-To: <7454a99b0901100431r5767f2c7u2ece663da5d8850d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <180993.28134.qm@web25906.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
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	<BLU117-W34B8423D1225275DEF343A9DDD0@phx.gbl>
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Wow, you're the 1st person i've read that agrees w/me on "Pink Flag"--it's just ok, but I don't see why it's such a great album. I was expecting a little more from it, since it's often cited as an infuence on the Minutemen (a truly great band).

Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:31:08 +0000From: bawhitehead at gmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netCC: dwish2000 at hotmail.comSubject: Re: [kj] [OT] Wire...Why the "?". Being a KJ fan should I be automatically be into wire? Maybe "get" was the wrong word?My mate would play Pink Flag continuously and although it was OK that's all it was to me. 30 years later who knows?Thanks for the recommendation, I'll buy a copy of Send from ebay immediately.Brian.  
2009/1/9 drunk wish <dwish2000 at hotmail.com>

Someone on a Killing Joke mailing list trying to "get" Wire? Download Mr. Marx's Table from Send immediately.T.


From: folk.devil at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 12:00:37 -0800
Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Wire...try:Chairs missing154A bell is a cup, until it's struckThe ideal copy :D 

Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 16:07:48 +0000From: bawhitehead at gmail.comTo: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk; gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] [OT] Wire...For those interested.They play London Jan 21Wire gigStrange the talk of wire as I'm also trying _again_ to see if I can 'get it'. Starting with 154Brian.Oh happy new year. Late as ever.

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From bettedillinger at live.com  Sat Jan 10 20:04:04 2009
From: bettedillinger at live.com (Bette Dillinger)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 20:04:04 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
In-Reply-To: <BAY125-W12F59A4EEFB0FC57CCEEAEA9DA0@phx.gbl>
References: <8BF4DB25-7FD3-4E78-B475-5CA7BAFF54F2@gmail.com>
	<009a01c97297$fd7cc310$1201010a@jokers> 
	<BAY125-W12F59A4EEFB0FC57CCEEAEA9DA0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU148-W170305A93AB4F8117F4858BBDB0@phx.gbl>


Zealots of all forms are simply projecting their feelings of emptiness into the void of an indifferent world.
Fundamentalist of Y=Fundamentalist of Z in the final analysis.  The imposition of their views on others who are uninterested, their concrete good/bad thinking and their smug belief that there is one true explanation I have found in the most "Christian" person who hisses as I mention the Gnostic texts, and the angry young anarchist who believes there is no god and anyone who believes differently is devoid of intellect.
 
There is something that connects us and makes us human.  Some call it God.  Let us see what Richard Dawkins will call it when he has that inevitable sling and/or arrow pierces his all too mortal skin.....it happens to us all.
 
Bette
 



From: gregslawson at msn.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 22:55:14 -0500Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?

You fucking Brits are so fucking lucky to get these wonderful billboards on your fucking busses. We Amerikkkans would never be so lucky; far too many anti-science religious brainwashed lunatics here to ever allow it. Power to Richard Dawkins! (His book actually sold well here)...



From: circusbar at uol.com.brTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 18:22:26 -0200Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?


I enjoyed this campaign!!
 
I?m tired of only seeing things related to jesus salvation and/or damnation!!!
 
d i a z
 

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From daxford at rogers.com  Sat Jan 10 20:45:24 2009
From: daxford at rogers.com (Dave Axford)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 20:45:24 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
References: <8BF4DB25-7FD3-4E78-B475-5CA7BAFF54F2@gmail.com><009a01c97297$fd7cc310$1201010a@jokers>
	<BAY125-W12F59A4EEFB0FC57CCEEAEA9DA0@phx.gbl>
	<BLU148-W170305A93AB4F8117F4858BBDB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <C444D3A49963439E8D3CF2DBEDEE847F@dave>

Hello Bette,

My belief is that THOR is gonna have a massive come-back in '09! 
(kidding)
I think ALL animals fear death, but (we) humans have contemplated it way more than any other species...
Because we have, we've given rise to supernatural 'authority figures' that somehow, 'exempt' us humans from our natural demise. I think that this is "wishful thinking' at best. 
Should your beliefs give you hope about life (and the after-life), then I'm not going to argue... You just run with that.
But if you say, "That my beliefs are true", then I might have a problem with that.

Dave


  Zealots of all forms are simply projecting their feelings of emptiness into the void of an indifferent world.
  Fundamentalist of Y=Fundamentalist of Z in the final analysis.  The imposition of their views on others who are uninterested, their concrete good/bad thinking and their smug belief that there is one true explanation I have found in the most "Christian" person who hisses as I mention the Gnostic texts, and the angry young anarchist who believes there is no god and anyone who believes differently is devoid of intellect.
   
  There is something that connects us and makes us human.  Some call it God.  Let us see what Richard Dawkins will call it when he has that inevitable sling and/or arrow pierces his all too mortal skin.....it happens to us all.
   
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From folk.devil at hotmail.com  Sat Jan 10 20:58:28 2009
From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 17:58:28 -0800
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
In-Reply-To: <C444D3A49963439E8D3CF2DBEDEE847F@dave>
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I think somewhere along the line "god" became a person.

Elephants dwell on death quite a bit..will Thor be bringing Sif along with him?

From: daxford at rogers.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 20:45:24 -0500
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?










Hello Bette,
 
My belief is that THOR is gonna have 
a massive come-back in '09! 
(kidding)
I think ALL animals fear death, but 
(we) humans have contemplated it way more than any other 
species...
Because we have, we've given rise to 
supernatural 'authority figures' that somehow, 'exempt' us humans from our 
natural demise. I think that this is "wishful thinking' at best. 
Should your beliefs give you hope 
about life (and the after-life), then I'm not going to argue... You just run 
with that.
But if you say, "That my beliefs are 
true", then I might have a problem with that.
 
Dave


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From folk.devil at hotmail.com  Sat Jan 10 21:01:05 2009
From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:01:05 -0800
Subject: [kj] [OT] Wire...
In-Reply-To: <7454a99b0901100431r5767f2c7u2ece663da5d8850d@mail.gmail.com>
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that's why i skipped pink flag as a recommendation. i think it was more 'of the moment'..sounds kinda dated, too...but i like it. 

Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:31:08 +0000
From: bawhitehead at gmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
CC: dwish2000 at hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Wire...


My mate would play Pink Flag continuously and although it was OK that's all it was to me. 30 years later who knows?


Thanks for the recommendation, I'll buy a copy of Send from ebay immediately.

Brian.  



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From fbc at 21ca.com  Sun Jan 11 14:06:28 2009
From: fbc at 21ca.com (Frank Coleman)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:06:28 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT: The ultimate Ron Asheton appreciation
In-Reply-To: <mailman.15.1231689631.47756.gathering@misera.net>
References: <mailman.15.1231689631.47756.gathering@misera.net>
Message-ID: <496A4334.8010708@21ca.com>

http://videowatchdog.blogspot.com/2009/01/ron-asheton-coltrane-of-psych-guitar.html 


Thought some of you might be interested.  Tim Lucas is one of the best 
writers on the planet.

FYI,
FBC

F R A N K . C O L E M A N
Designer . Developer . Drummer
Interactive . Online . TV . Video . Audio  . Print
Portfolio . 21st Century Art . http://www.21ca.com

E-Mail . fbc at 21ca.com

Facebook . http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=504788100
MySpace . Frankie7 . http://www.myspace.com/frankie7
LinkedIn . http://www.linkedin.com/in/frankcoleman

From jpwhkj at aol.com  Sun Jan 11 19:08:42 2009
From: jpwhkj at aol.com (jpwhkj at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:08:42 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
In-Reply-To: <C444D3A49963439E8D3CF2DBEDEE847F@dave>
References: <8BF4DB25-7FD3-4E78-B475-5CA7BAFF54F2@gmail.com><009a01c97297$fd7cc310$1201010a@jokers><BAY125-W12F59A4EEFB0FC57CCEEAEA9DA0@phx.gbl><BLU148-W170305A93AB4F8117F4858BBDB0@phx.gbl>
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Don't you believe that your beliefs are true?? And therefore that some other people's beliefs are wrong?

The difficulty - according to me <grin> - isn't people believing that they are right and other people are wrong (which is perfectly healthy)... it's believing that that gives them the right to persecute or kill those with whom they disagree.

Sadly, most religions and ideologies have at some point been used to justify persecution.? On the other hand, plenty of people have also managed it without a religion or ideology.

However, none of the above is to say that "all religions are the same" or "all ideologies are the same".? Clearly some of?both have persecution built into them from their foundation, whilst others do not.

Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Axford <daxford at rogers.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 1:45
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?



Hello Bette,

?

My belief is that THOR is gonna have a massive come-back in '09! 

(kidding)

I think ALL animals fear death, but (we)?humans have contemplated it way more than any other species...

Because we have, we've given rise to supernatural 'authority figures' that somehow,?'exempt' us humans from our natural demise. I think that this is "wishful thinking' at best. 

Should your beliefs give you hope about life (and the after-life), then I'm not going to argue... You just run with that.

But if you say, "That my beliefs are true", then I might have a problem with that.

?

Dave




Zealots of all forms are simply projecting their feelings of emptiness into the void of?an indifferent world.
Fundamentalist of Y=Fundamentalist of Z in the final analysis.? The imposition of their views on others who are uninterested, their concrete good/bad thinking and their smug belief that there is one true explanation I have found in the most "Christian" person who hisses as I mention the Gnostic texts, and the angry young anarchist who believes there is no god and anyone who believes differently is devoid of intellect.
?
There is something that connects us and makes us human.? Some call it God.??Let us see what Richard Dawkins will call it when he has that inevitable?sling and/or arrow pierces his all too mortal skin.....it happens to us all.
?
Bette
?






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From daxford at rogers.com  Sun Jan 11 19:54:31 2009
From: daxford at rogers.com (Dave Axford)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:54:31 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
References: <8BF4DB25-7FD3-4E78-B475-5CA7BAFF54F2@gmail.com><009a01c97297$fd7cc310$1201010a@jokers><BAY125-W12F59A4EEFB0FC57CCEEAEA9DA0@phx.gbl><BLU148-W170305A93AB4F8117F4858BBDB0@phx.gbl><C444D3A49963439E8D3CF2DBEDEE847F@dave>
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Message-ID: <2BEE2A1C353C4D55B7237037BC567E05@dave>


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: jpwhkj at aol.com 
  To: gathering at misera.net 
  Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 7:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?


  Don't you believe that your beliefs are true?

  Not really. My beliefs as a child are different from my beliefs as an adult. So, something that was 'true' to me as a child are not necessarily the 'truths' that I hold today... If something was actually 'true', it wouldn't change over time. Beliefs change, but truth is constant.

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From killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com  Sun Jan 11 20:35:53 2009
From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com (The Exorcist)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 20:35:53 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
In-Reply-To: <2BEE2A1C353C4D55B7237037BC567E05@dave>
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Truth is constant. How we perceive it changes.

You can have a simple truth be ignored by many because it does not 
suit them, or simply
goes against the grains of their beliefs. It's happened before and 
will happen in the future.


At 07:54 PM 1/11/2009, Dave Axford wrote:
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:jpwhkj at aol.com>jpwhkj at aol.com
>To: <mailto:gathering at misera.net>gathering at misera.net
>Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 7:08 PM
>Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?
>
>Don't you believe that your beliefs are true?
>
>Not really. My beliefs as a child are different from my beliefs as 
>an adult. So, something that was 'true' to me as a child are not 
>necessarily the 'truths' that I hold today... If something was 
>actually 'true', it wouldn't change over time. Beliefs change, but 
>truth is constant.
>Dave
>
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From pmdavies at gmail.com  Mon Jan 12 03:52:47 2009
From: pmdavies at gmail.com (iPat)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 08:52:47 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
In-Reply-To: <0KDC0031U4G4WC80@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
References: <8BF4DB25-7FD3-4E78-B475-5CA7BAFF54F2@gmail.com>
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truth simply 'is'
any thinking on it makes it a belief because thinking requires conditioning
to think of something as being requires it to fit into what you know,
but since you cannot know everything, what you know is limited and
therefore belief is a limitation and hides you from the truth

lol

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 1:35 AM, The Exorcist
<killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com> wrote:
> Truth is constant. How we perceive it changes.
>
> You can have a simple truth be ignored by many because it does not suit
> them, or simply
> goes against the grains of their beliefs. It's happened before and will
> happen in the future.
>

From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Mon Jan 12 04:06:14 2009
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:06:14 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
In-Reply-To: <1646350c0901120052l36654dadh3f29f91044cc0354@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8BF4DB25-7FD3-4E78-B475-5CA7BAFF54F2@gmail.com>
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Thinking requires conditioning...are you sure?

PS: How are you stitching up big fella?

> truth simply 'is'
> any thinking on it makes it a belief because thinking requires
> conditioning
> to think of something as being requires it to fit into what you know,
> but since you cannot know everything, what you know is limited and
> therefore belief is a limitation and hides you from the truth
>
> lol
>
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 1:35 AM, The Exorcist
> <killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com> wrote:
>> Truth is constant. How we perceive it changes.
>>
>> You can have a simple truth be ignored by many because it does not suit
>> them, or simply
>> goes against the grains of their beliefs. It's happened before and will
>> happen in the future.
>>
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From humanhybrid666 at gmail.com  Mon Jan 12 04:36:05 2009
From: humanhybrid666 at gmail.com (bongo)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:36:05 +1300
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
In-Reply-To: <10788.203.210.68.145.1231751174.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz>
References: <8BF4DB25-7FD3-4E78-B475-5CA7BAFF54F2@gmail.com>
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...how could i NOT comment on a thread like this??? LOL


currently reading "the origin and destiny of man" by edgar cayce...
WOW
mixes with so much i have read/hard elsewhere... we ARE divine beings, given
the chance to once again realise this.  dawky dawkins has some nice ideas on
religion, but goes too far and has become posterboy for the current fashion
of atheism.

the more you study, the more you learn... read widely and keep an open
mind...
your eyes will open... ... ...

=)




-- 


"due to a lack of trained trumpeters, the end of the world has been
postponed indefinitely..."
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From pmdavies at gmail.com  Mon Jan 12 04:38:07 2009
From: pmdavies at gmail.com (iPat)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 09:38:07 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
In-Reply-To: <10788.203.210.68.145.1231751174.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz>
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wound almost healed
then onto the tablets

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:
> Thinking requires conditioning...are you sure?
>
> PS: How are you stitching up big fella?
>
>> truth simply 'is'

From killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com  Mon Jan 12 05:53:43 2009
From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com (The Exorcist)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:53:43 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
In-Reply-To: <1646350c0901120138l2dac183du80996cf7fab16198@mail.gmail.co m>
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Glad to hear

Just avoid the 2 stone tablets with the 10 directions on them.

Mind you; Brendan was just asking because he has recently taken up sewing
and was looking for any excuse to use this threads and needles.

Cheers :)



At 04:38 AM 1/12/2009, iPat wrote:
>wound almost healed
>then onto the tablets
>
>On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:
> > Thinking requires conditioning...are you sure?
> >
> > PS: How are you stitching up big fella?
> >
> >> truth simply 'is'
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From fatpotanga at gmail.com  Mon Jan 12 06:31:20 2009
From: fatpotanga at gmail.com (fatpotanga)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:31:20 +0000
Subject: [kj] Waaaay OT: sales pitch
In-Reply-To: <E1LK1sF-0004Za-4m@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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Message-ID: <F1817BFC-41E2-4299-9769-66A2EDA1CE1B@gmail.com>

waaaay OT this, but this sale pitch made me smile:
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Piece-of-junk-Jackson-Surfcaster-metallic-red_W0QQitemZ290285024822QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

From pmdavies at gmail.com  Mon Jan 12 07:01:05 2009
From: pmdavies at gmail.com (iPat)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:01:05 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
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a bit of embroidery might be useful
http://patsfightagainsttcancer.blogspot.com/2009/01/scar-tissue.html


On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:53 AM, The Exorcist
<killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com> wrote:
> Glad to hear
>
> Just avoid the 2 stone tablets with the 10 directions on them.
>
> Mind you; Brendan was just asking because he has recently taken up sewing
> and was looking for any excuse to use this threads and needles.
>
> Cheers :)
>

From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Mon Jan 12 07:48:07 2009
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 01:48:07 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
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	<0KDC0040PU9K3HF0@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
	<1646350c0901120401t4c1fcfe5l3be08cce196918a7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <11210.203.210.68.145.1231764487.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz>

How did you find the NHS Pat? I know there are a lot of complaints about
it but watching Sicko and various other things looks like it's not too bad
compared to the US.

Nice gash by the way. Sorry had to be said :)

> a bit of embroidery might be useful
> http://patsfightagainsttcancer.blogspot.com/2009/01/scar-tissue.html
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:53 AM, The Exorcist
> <killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com> wrote:
>> Glad to hear
>>
>> Just avoid the 2 stone tablets with the 10 directions on them.
>>
>> Mind you; Brendan was just asking because he has recently taken up
>> sewing
>> and was looking for any excuse to use this threads and needles.
>>
>> Cheers :)
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Gathering mailing list
> Gathering at misera.net
> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
>



From pmdavies at gmail.com  Mon Jan 12 08:05:03 2009
From: pmdavies at gmail.com (iPat)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 13:05:03 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
In-Reply-To: <11210.203.210.68.145.1231764487.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz>
References: <8BF4DB25-7FD3-4E78-B475-5CA7BAFF54F2@gmail.com>
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its a huge organisation that moves slowly. When we live in a world of
quick get it now pay later etc its a culture shock. Seeing as i first
went to the doctor in August and diagnosed in September i am out of
the guideline requirement for treatment. Saying that if the surgery
had been sucessful it would be finished. As it is we are still waiting
at the start line. The NHS is staffed by professional healers and once
they see you as a person with intent to heal they respond, otherwise
you get lost in the greyness of those waiting to die. I tend to get
the best out of the people as they see positivity. The Traditional
Chinese Medicine approach is something that attracts me and i will use
that to cure my liver.
Guess for those wondering wtf we are talking about:
http://patsfightagainsttcancer.blogspot.com/
if you have never had a blood test to check for hep c do it now ffs.

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:
> How did you find the NHS Pat? I know there are a lot of complaints about
> it but watching Sicko and various other things looks like it's not too bad
> compared to the US.
>
> Nice gash by the way. Sorry had to be said :)
>

From dpeace at bigfoot.com  Mon Jan 12 11:02:16 2009
From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:02:16 -0000
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
In-Reply-To: <1646350c0901120505p4ae2c368k85a5e2357760f3f9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8BF4DB25-7FD3-4E78-B475-5CA7BAFF54F2@gmail.com>	<8CB42610FF95AEC-F34-1378@FWM-M43.sysops.aol.com>	<2BEE2A1C353C4D55B7237037BC567E05@dave>	<0KDC0031U4G4WC80@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>	<1646350c0901120052l36654dadh3f29f91044cc0354@mail.gmail.com>	<10788.203.210.68.145.1231751174.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz>	<1646350c0901120138l2dac183du80996cf7fab16198@mail.gmail.com>	<0KDC0040PU9K3HF0@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>	<1646350c0901120401t4c1fcfe5l3be08cce196918a7@mail.gmail.com>	<11210.203.210.68.145.1231764487.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz>
	<1646350c0901120505p4ae2c368k85a5e2357760f3f9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003601c974cf$24451810$6ccf4830$@com>

Really sorry to read your blog. Had no idea.

My experiences with the NHS extend back 30 years, as I've been receiving
treatment for Crohn's Disease. Took three specialists 15 years to arrive at
a diagnosis, but it's a notoriously difficult condition to identify.

You're absolutely right - unless you identify yourself as someone who stands
out from the mass of those stoically accepting their condition, you'll be
overlooked. I've had to befriend people I wouldn't otherwise in order to
receive the treatment I get (monthly infusions, etc.), and although I've
taken a stand on several occasions on behalf of people I've met on wards who
have that peculiarly English tendency to wish to avoid drawing attention to
themselves, I've seen many, many more who have just accepted their health
situation without being fired up to pester health professionals to take an
interest. I don't blame the latter; they do a thankless job for little
recognition, but I've found it's a personal connection that makes the
difference.

On the other hand, despite Sicko painting a rhetorically hyperbolic picture
of the excellence of the NHS, at least I don't need to find ?1500 for each
infusion.

Hope things improve,

Darren
Hungerford, UK

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of iPat
Sent: 12 January 2009 13:05
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?

its a huge organisation that moves slowly. When we live in a world of
quick get it now pay later etc its a culture shock. Seeing as i first
went to the doctor in August and diagnosed in September i am out of
the guideline requirement for treatment. Saying that if the surgery
had been sucessful it would be finished. As it is we are still waiting
at the start line. The NHS is staffed by professional healers and once
they see you as a person with intent to heal they respond, otherwise
you get lost in the greyness of those waiting to die. I tend to get
the best out of the people as they see positivity. The Traditional
Chinese Medicine approach is something that attracts me and i will use
that to cure my liver.
Guess for those wondering wtf we are talking about:
http://patsfightagainsttcancer.blogspot.com/
if you have never had a blood test to check for hep c do it now ffs.

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:
> How did you find the NHS Pat? I know there are a lot of complaints about
> it but watching Sicko and various other things looks like it's not too bad
> compared to the US.
>
> Nice gash by the way. Sorry had to be said :)
>
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From killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com  Mon Jan 12 11:37:48 2009
From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com (The Exorcist)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:37:48 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
In-Reply-To: <1646350c0901120401t4c1fcfe5l3be08cce196918a7@mail.gmail.co m>
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Message-ID: <0KDD00518A7234W0@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

Aye... But at the hands of Brendan! :)

At 07:01 AM 1/12/2009, iPat wrote:
>a bit of embroidery might be useful
>http://patsfightagainsttcancer.blogspot.com/2009/01/scar-tissue.html
>
>
>On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:53 AM, The Exorcist
><killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com> wrote:
> > Glad to hear
> >
> > Just avoid the 2 stone tablets with the 10 directions on them.
> >
> > Mind you; Brendan was just asking because he has recently taken up sewing
> > and was looking for any excuse to use this threads and needles.
> >
> > Cheers :)
> >
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From pmdavies at gmail.com  Mon Jan 12 12:02:50 2009
From: pmdavies at gmail.com (iPat)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:02:50 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
In-Reply-To: <003601c974cf$24451810$6ccf4830$@com>
References: <8BF4DB25-7FD3-4E78-B475-5CA7BAFF54F2@gmail.com>
	<0KDC0031U4G4WC80@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
	<1646350c0901120052l36654dadh3f29f91044cc0354@mail.gmail.com>
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no HOPE
it WILL
:)

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Darren A. Peace <dpeace at bigfoot.com> wrote:

>
> Hope things improve,

From pmdavies at gmail.com  Mon Jan 12 12:06:45 2009
From: pmdavies at gmail.com (iPat)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:06:45 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
In-Reply-To: <0KDD00518A7234W0@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
References: <8BF4DB25-7FD3-4E78-B475-5CA7BAFF54F2@gmail.com>
	<8CB42610FF95AEC-F34-1378@FWM-M43.sysops.aol.com>
	<2BEE2A1C353C4D55B7237037BC567E05@dave>
	<0KDC0031U4G4WC80@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
	<1646350c0901120052l36654dadh3f29f91044cc0354@mail.gmail.com>
	<10788.203.210.68.145.1231751174.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz>
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Message-ID: <1646350c0901120906w1e9aaacw7452f1ab571dd31@mail.gmail.com>

with knitting needles

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 4:37 PM, The Exorcist
<killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com> wrote:
> Aye... But at the hands of Brendan! :)
>
> At 07:01 AM 1/12/2009, iPat wrote:
>
> a bit of embroidery might be useful
> http://patsfightagainsttcancer.blogspot.com/2009/01/scar-tissue.html
>

From killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com  Mon Jan 12 12:11:44 2009
From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com (The Exorcist)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:11:44 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
In-Reply-To: <1646350c0901120906w1e9aaacw7452f1ab571dd31@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8BF4DB25-7FD3-4E78-B475-5CA7BAFF54F2@gmail.com>
	<8CB42610FF95AEC-F34-1378@FWM-M43.sysops.aol.com>
	<2BEE2A1C353C4D55B7237037BC567E05@dave>
	<0KDC0031U4G4WC80@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
	<1646350c0901120052l36654dadh3f29f91044cc0354@mail.gmail.com>
	<10788.203.210.68.145.1231751174.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz>
	<1646350c0901120138l2dac183du80996cf7fab16198@mail.gmail.com>
	<0KDC0040PU9K3HF0@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
	<1646350c0901120401t4c1fcfe5l3be08cce196918a7@mail.gmail.com>
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Brendan with needles.

You truly are a far braver person than I am Pat. :)

Though you'd probably end up with a stitching that says "KJ IS METAL"

At 12:06 PM 1/12/2009, iPat wrote:
>with knitting needles
>
>On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 4:37 PM, The Exorcist
><killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com> wrote:
> > Aye... But at the hands of Brendan! :)
> >
> > At 07:01 AM 1/12/2009, iPat wrote:
> >
> > a bit of embroidery might be useful
> > http://patsfightagainsttcancer.blogspot.com/2009/01/scar-tissue.html
> >
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From sandstorm_mg at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 12 14:00:42 2009
From: sandstorm_mg at yahoo.com (Michael Garcia)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:00:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] Waaaay OT: sales pitch
References: <E1LK1sF-0004Za-4m@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<F1817BFC-41E2-4299-9769-66A2EDA1CE1B@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <960189.60012.qm@web33005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thats a GREAT ad!




________________________________
From: fatpotanga <fatpotanga at gmail.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 3:31:20 AM
Subject: [kj] Waaaay OT: sales pitch

waaaay OT this, but this sale pitch made me smile:
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Piece-of-junk-Jackson-Surfcaster-metallic-red_W0QQitemZ290285024822QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116
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From karen.weil at sddt.com  Mon Jan 12 14:24:22 2009
From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:24:22 -0800
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
References: <8BF4DB25-7FD3-4E78-B475-5CA7BAFF54F2@gmail.com>	<8CB42610FF95AEC-F34-1378@FWM-M43.sysops.aol.com>	<2BEE2A1C353C4D55B7237037BC567E05@dave>	<0KDC0031U4G4WC80@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>	<1646350c0901120052l36654dadh3f29f91044cc0354@mail.gmail.com>	<10788.203.210.68.145.1231751174.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz>	<1646350c0901120138l2dac183du80996cf7fab16198@mail.gmail.com>	<0KDC0040PU9K3HF0@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>	<1646350c0901120401t4c1fcfe5l3be08cce196918a7@mail.gmail.com>	<11210.203.210.68.145.1231764487.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><1646350c0901120505p4ae2c368k85a5e2357760f3f9@mail.gmail.com>
	<003601c974cf$24451810$6ccf4830$@com>
Message-ID: <F658EC2B405F4A9FA28A711F1AEF429E@edweil>

Hi, Darren:

Wish you all the best in your treatments, and that 2009 is a great year for 
you. Great post about the health care system, BTW.

k.w.
the States
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darren A. Peace" <dpeace at bigfoot.com>
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" 
<gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?


Really sorry to read your blog. Had no idea.

My experiences with the NHS extend back 30 years, as I've been receiving
treatment for Crohn's Disease. Took three specialists 15 years to arrive at
a diagnosis, but it's a notoriously difficult condition to identify.

You're absolutely right - unless you identify yourself as someone who stands
out from the mass of those stoically accepting their condition, you'll be
overlooked. I've had to befriend people I wouldn't otherwise in order to
receive the treatment I get (monthly infusions, etc.), and although I've
taken a stand on several occasions on behalf of people I've met on wards who
have that peculiarly English tendency to wish to avoid drawing attention to
themselves, I've seen many, many more who have just accepted their health
situation without being fired up to pester health professionals to take an
interest. I don't blame the latter; they do a thankless job for little
recognition, but I've found it's a personal connection that makes the
difference.

On the other hand, despite Sicko painting a rhetorically hyperbolic picture
of the excellence of the NHS, at least I don't need to find ?1500 for each
infusion.

Hope things improve,

Darren
Hungerford, UK

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of iPat
Sent: 12 January 2009 13:05
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?

its a huge organisation that moves slowly. When we live in a world of
quick get it now pay later etc its a culture shock. Seeing as i first
went to the doctor in August and diagnosed in September i am out of
the guideline requirement for treatment. Saying that if the surgery
had been sucessful it would be finished. As it is we are still waiting
at the start line. The NHS is staffed by professional healers and once
they see you as a person with intent to heal they respond, otherwise
you get lost in the greyness of those waiting to die. I tend to get
the best out of the people as they see positivity. The Traditional
Chinese Medicine approach is something that attracts me and i will use
that to cure my liver.
Guess for those wondering wtf we are talking about:
http://patsfightagainsttcancer.blogspot.com/
if you have never had a blood test to check for hep c do it now ffs.

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:
> How did you find the NHS Pat? I know there are a lot of complaints about
> it but watching Sicko and various other things looks like it's not too bad
> compared to the US.
>
> Nice gash by the way. Sorry had to be said :)
>
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From bettedillinger at live.com  Mon Jan 12 20:01:37 2009
From: bettedillinger at live.com (Bette Dillinger)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:01:37 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
In-Reply-To: <C444D3A49963439E8D3CF2DBEDEE847F@dave>
References: <8BF4DB25-7FD3-4E78-B475-5CA7BAFF54F2@gmail.com><009a01c97297$fd7cc310$1201010a@jokers>
	<BAY125-W12F59A4EEFB0FC57CCEEAEA9DA0@phx.gbl>
	<BLU148-W170305A93AB4F8117F4858BBDB0@phx.gbl> 
	<C444D3A49963439E8D3CF2DBEDEE847F@dave>
Message-ID: <BLU148-W1640B9D237A55ACBFE2E72BBD90@phx.gbl>


LOL, Dave I think Thor is already among us and he is disgusted ;).  
 
Really, aside from the fight or flight response, I don't think the comparison of an animal's avoidance of death can be similar to the human experience of it.  Animals, even taking into consideration elephant burial grounds, do not have death rituals.  Cro Magnon man was burying icons with their dead.  This recognition of the transitional element of death is not present among animals, at least to my knowledge.
 
I guess I am rather confused where you see my assertion of my belief system.  I simply said that science is cold comfort to the atheist, and that zealots are in every religion and dogma.  I don't know where you see that I asserted a belief that a god is necessary, however...I speculated only that benevolence is sometimes deemed to be divine.  
 
In fact we agree ultimately...as you see from the fact that I have not asserted my adherence to any stance regarding life and death issues, and I rabidly avoid those who want to impose their beliefs on others as the one holy truth.
 
Really, there is no truth except the circle, which can be empirically proven.
 
Bette 
 
 



From: daxford at rogers.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 20:45:24 -0500Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?


Hello Bette,
 
My belief is that THOR is gonna have a massive come-back in '09! 
(kidding)
I think ALL animals fear death, but (we) humans have contemplated it way more than any other species...
Because we have, we've given rise to supernatural 'authority figures' that somehow, 'exempt' us humans from our natural demise. I think that this is "wishful thinking' at best. 
Should your beliefs give you hope about life (and the after-life), then I'm not going to argue... You just run with that.
But if you say, "That my beliefs are true", then I might have a problem with that.
 
Dave

Zealots of all forms are simply projecting their feelings of emptiness into the void of an indifferent world.Fundamentalist of Y=Fundamentalist of Z in the final analysis.  The imposition of their views on others who are uninterested, their concrete good/bad thinking and their smug belief that there is one true explanation I have found in the most "Christian" person who hisses as I mention the Gnostic texts, and the angry young anarchist who believes there is no god and anyone who believes differently is devoid of intellect. There is something that connects us and makes us human.  Some call it God.  Let us see what Richard Dawkins will call it when he has that inevitable sling and/or arrow pierces his all too mortal skin.....it happens to us all. Bette 
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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Mon Jan 12 21:27:58 2009
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:27:58 +1100
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
In-Reply-To: <1646350c0901120505p4ae2c368k85a5e2357760f3f9@mail.gmail.com>
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Yeah I'm interested in general and also cos I've been thinking about whether
it's worth getting health insurance. We have an NHS equivalent in NZ and I
suppose it's roughly the same. Something I need to look into further I
think. That movie Sicko scared the $hit outta me. Enough to scare you
sickless ;) 

About the diet stuff, did you look into metabolic typing diets? That's
something Paul Chek promotes, you've prolly heard of him. So many theories
out there, I'm gonna do my research and try some of them out. And did you
experiment with the acid / alkaline theory, any results with that? Please
say no, I don't wanna feel any more guilty about my coffee and bourbon and
coke...

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of iPat
Sent: Tuesday, 13 January 2009 00:05
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?

its a huge organisation that moves slowly. When we live in a world of
quick get it now pay later etc its a culture shock. Seeing as i first
went to the doctor in August and diagnosed in September i am out of
the guideline requirement for treatment. Saying that if the surgery
had been sucessful it would be finished. As it is we are still waiting
at the start line. The NHS is staffed by professional healers and once
they see you as a person with intent to heal they respond, otherwise
you get lost in the greyness of those waiting to die. I tend to get
the best out of the people as they see positivity. The Traditional
Chinese Medicine approach is something that attracts me and i will use
that to cure my liver.
Guess for those wondering wtf we are talking about:
http://patsfightagainsttcancer.blogspot.com/
if you have never had a blood test to check for hep c do it now ffs.

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:
> How did you find the NHS Pat? I know there are a lot of complaints about
> it but watching Sicko and various other things looks like it's not too bad
> compared to the US.
>
> Nice gash by the way. Sorry had to be said :)
>
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From pmdavies at gmail.com  Tue Jan 13 04:35:12 2009
From: pmdavies at gmail.com (iPat)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 09:35:12 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
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the macrobiotic and alakline concept are imho linked. You should
really be utilising the food that is locally produced as it creates a
balance with your surroundings. Any imbalance is the initiation of
case and effect!

i have been given more information than i put on the blog and because
of the symptons i have and the effects i'll be left with, the advice
is simple, i should be extremely alkaline right now. My partner though
is fighting her conditioning and wants to cook and prepare acidic
meals, so it is a learning process. Obviously i have ceased all
alchohol and quite r simply if i never drink ever again it is not an
issue to me. If something so irrelevant has a hold on me than there
are other reasons to be dealt with. if you are balanced though the
body can easily deal with the odd jack and coke!

I guess the hardest thing i have found is getting away from the amount
of wheat based products. I have tried this before and besides finding
a warm slice of toast with melted spread being simply divine, our
processed food culture is poisoning us with so much wheat and salt and
the impact is seen in failed crops which have replaced indigenous
crops that could survive natures swings. Im juicing so much at the
moment to get the alkaline into the system to strengthen the liver
before the chemo takes it's toll, as this is the single best wa to get
it into teh system outside a balanced diet.

Regarding Health Insurance, several years ago, i went part time in my
career in order to run my school full time. I intended to make the
change. One day, exhausted and condsidering an offer from work, a
brigh neon type message appeared in my brainwith two words, Health
Insurance. Where it came from and what caused it to become prominent
is the fuel for many debates, but it influenced me to accept an offer
to return to my engineering career. As it is the Insurance hasnt
really been used as yet, but it could play a pivotal part. Would i
encourage people to be tied down to a boring job just for that, no,
but sometimes things seem to work in mysterious ways.

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 2:27 AM, Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:

>
> About the diet stuff, did you look into metabolic typing diets? That's
> something Paul Chek promotes, you've prolly heard of him. So many theories
> out there, I'm gonna do my research and try some of them out. And did you
> experiment with the acid / alkaline theory, any results with that? Please
> say no, I don't wanna feel any more guilty about my coffee and bourbon and
> coke...

From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Tue Jan 13 09:14:26 2009
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:14:26 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
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lol ;D))))))  that made me laugh hard--any hows its about time those ten rules were brought up to date-to relate to  2009---heres a few
 
1.thou shall not listen to there itouch/ipod more than twice a week.
2.thou shall not eat fast food ever.
3.thou shall not take more than 3 air flights in one year.
ect
(these could get very whitty or very grim lol ;P
 
ps i herd we are all our own gods and devils but dont quote me ;)



Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:53:43 -0500From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?Glad to hear Just avoid the 2 stone tablets with the 10 directions o rules were broughn them.Mind you; Brendan was just asking because he has recently taken up sewingand was looking for any excuse to use this threads and needles.Cheers :)At 04:38 AM 1/12/2009, iPat wrote:
wound almost healedthen onto the tabletsOn Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:> Thinking requires conditioning...are you sure?>> PS: How are you stitching up big fella?>>> truth simply 'is'_______________________________________________Gathering mailing listGathering at misera.nethttp://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering 
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From jerry at fleamusic.com  Tue Jan 13 09:15:26 2009
From: jerry at fleamusic.com (Jerry Butson)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:15:26 +0000
Subject: [kj] Did i miss something?
Message-ID: <6bd06be20901130615x66d4bd2ds5cbd1099cbd545b0@mail.gmail.com>

Hello, freshly returned from my annual voyage up my own arse (at least it
was mine, eh?). What's this i hear about a new album?

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From killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com  Tue Jan 13 09:43:32 2009
From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com (The Exorcist)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 09:43:32 -0500
Subject: [kj] Did i miss something?
In-Reply-To: <6bd06be20901130615x66d4bd2ds5cbd1099cbd545b0@mail.gmail.co m>
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Message-ID: <0KDE00LISZKNUW01@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

And I heard I was gonna get laid. Still waiting for either to happen this year.

At 09:15 AM 1/13/2009, Jerry Butson wrote:
>Hello, freshly returned from my annual voyage up my own arse (at 
>least it was mine, eh?). What's this i hear about a new album?
>
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From Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk  Tue Jan 13 09:54:30 2009
From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk (Phillipps Marc)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:54:30 -0000
Subject: [kj] Did i miss something?
References: <6bd06be20901130615x66d4bd2ds5cbd1099cbd545b0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BD60B2A89D16094897629D4CCC50B1CB3A4939@ED01VN01.NCL-HIS.NHS.UK>

Welcome back Jerry! 

 

The new album seems to be slightly delayed . . . 

 

 

 

________________________________

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of Jerry Butson
Sent: 13 January 2009 14:15
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] Did i miss something?

 

Hello, freshly returned from my annual voyage up my own arse (at least
it was mine, eh?). What's this i hear about a new album?

 

jerry
 
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From killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com  Tue Jan 13 10:09:00 2009
From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com (The Exorcist)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:09:00 -0500
Subject: [kj] Did i miss something?
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Rehprase:

And I heard I was gonna get laid. Still waiting for evidence of 
either to happen this year.

At 09:43 AM 1/13/2009, The Exorcist wrote:
>And I heard I was gonna get laid. Still waiting for either to happen 
>this year.
>
>At 09:15 AM 1/13/2009, Jerry Butson wrote:
>>Hello, freshly returned from my annual voyage up my own arse (at 
>>least it was mine, eh?). What's this i hear about a new album?
>>
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From folk.devil at hotmail.com  Tue Jan 13 12:00:10 2009
From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 09:00:10 -0800
Subject: [kj] Did i miss something?
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So KJ didn't split up? Again. ;)

Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:54:30 +0000From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.ukTo: jerry at fleamusic.com; gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] Did i miss something?






Welcome back Jerry! 
 
The new album seems to be slightly delayed . . . 
 
 
 




From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Jerry ButsonSent: 13 January 2009 14:15To: gathering at misera.netSubject: [kj] Did i miss something?
 

Hello, freshly returned from my annual voyage up my own arse (at least it was mine, eh?). What's this i hear about a new album?

 

jerry
 
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From Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk  Tue Jan 13 12:10:07 2009
From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk (Phillipps Marc)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:10:07 -0000
Subject: [kj] Did i miss something?
References: <6bd06be20901130615x66d4bd2ds5cbd1099cbd545b0@mail.gmail.com><BD60B2A89D16094897629D4CCC50B1CB3A4939@ED01VN01.NCL-HIS.NHS.UK>
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>So KJ didn't split up? Again. ;)

 

Not officially (as far as I remember) 

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of folk devil
Sent: 13 January 2009 17:00
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Did i miss something?

 

So KJ didn't split up? Again. ;)

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:54:30 +0000
From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk
To: jerry at fleamusic.com; gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Did i miss something?

Welcome back Jerry! 

 

The new album seems to be slightly delayed . . . 

 

 

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of Jerry Butson
Sent: 13 January 2009 14:15
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] Did i miss something?

 

Hello, freshly returned from my annual voyage up my own arse (at least
it was mine, eh?). What's this i hear about a new album?

 

jerry

 

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From karen.weil at sddt.com  Tue Jan 13 13:19:33 2009
From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:19:33 -0800
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
References: <8BF4DB25-7FD3-4E78-B475-5CA7BAFF54F2@gmail.com><009a01c97297$fd7cc310$1201010a@jokers><BAY125-W12F59A4EEFB0FC57CCEEAEA9DA0@phx.gbl><BLU148-W170305A93AB4F8117F4858BBDB0@phx.gbl><C444D3A49963439E8D3CF2DBEDEE847F@dave><8CB42610FF95AEC-F34-1378@FWM-M43.sysops.aol.com><2BEE2A1C353C4D55B7237037BC567E05@dave><0KDC0031U4G4WC80@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net><1646350c0901120052l36654dadh3f29f91044cc0354@mail.gmail.com><10788.203.210.68.145.1231751174.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><1646350c0901120138l2dac183du80996cf7fab16198@mail.gmail.com>
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Now those are some tough commandments, Milinda!  ; ) 

k.w.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: melinda grant 
  To: thegathering mailing list 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 6:14 AM
  Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?


  lol ;D))))))  that made me laugh hard--any hows its about time those ten rules were brought up to date-to relate to  2009---heres a few
   
  1.thou shall not listen to there itouch/ipod more than twice a week.
  2.thou shall not eat fast food ever.
  3.thou shall not take more than 3 air flights in one year.
  ect
  (these could get very whitty or very grim lol ;P
   
  ps i herd we are all our own gods and devils but dont quote me ;)



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  Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:53:43 -0500
  From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com
  To: gathering at misera.net
  Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?

  Glad to hear 

  Just avoid the 2 stone tablets with the 10 directions o rules were broughn them.

  Mind you; Brendan was just asking because he has recently taken up sewing
  and was looking for any excuse to use this threads and needles.

  Cheers :)



  At 04:38 AM 1/12/2009, iPat wrote:


    wound almost healed
    then onto the tablets

    On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:
    > Thinking requires conditioning...are you sure?
    >
    > PS: How are you stitching up big fella?
    >
    >> truth simply 'is'
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From Rob at westwoodassociates.co.uk  Wed Jan 14 09:28:24 2009
From: Rob at westwoodassociates.co.uk (Rob Horan)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:28:24 -0000
Subject: [kj] OT: eurosceptics in control....
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From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Wed Jan 14 12:12:21 2009
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:12:21 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
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i would find 2-3 easy to keep, but 1--would be a challenge,i like music on my itouch most of the day to listen to ;)

From: karen.weil at sddt.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:19:33 -0800Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?


Now those are some tough commandments, Milinda!  ; ) 
 
k.w.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: melinda grant 
To: thegathering mailing list 
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 6:14 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?
lol ;D))))))  that made me laugh hard--any hows its about time those ten rules were brought up to date-to relate to  2009---heres a few 1.thou shall not listen to there itouch/ipod more than twice a week.2.thou shall not eat fast food ever.3.thou shall not take more than 3 air flights in one year.ect(these could get very whitty or very grim lol ;P ps i herd we are all our own gods and devils but dont quote me ;)

Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:53:43 -0500From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?Glad to hear Just avoid the 2 stone tablets with the 10 directions o rules were broughn them.Mind you; Brendan was just asking because he has recently taken up sewingand was looking for any excuse to use this threads and needles.Cheers :)At 04:38 AM 1/12/2009, iPat wrote:
wound almost healedthen onto the tabletsOn Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:> Thinking requires conditioning...are you sure?>> PS: How are you stitching up big fella?>>> truth simply 'is'_______________________________________________Gathering mailing listGathering at misera.nethttp://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering 

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From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:33:08 -0800
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
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Ha-ha, I can relate!  : ) 

k.w.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: melinda grant 
  To: thegathering mailing list 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 9:12 AM
  Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?


  i would find 2-3 easy to keep, but 1--would be a challenge,i like music on my itouch most of the day to listen to ;)


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  From: karen.weil at sddt.com
  To: gathering at misera.net
  Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:19:33 -0800
  Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?


  Now those are some tough commandments, Milinda!  ; ) 

  k.w.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: melinda grant 
    To: thegathering mailing list 
    Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 6:14 AM
    Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?


    lol ;D))))))  that made me laugh hard--any hows its about time those ten rules were brought up to date-to relate to  2009---heres a few
     
    1.thou shall not listen to there itouch/ipod more than twice a week.
    2.thou shall not eat fast food ever.
    3.thou shall not take more than 3 air flights in one year.
    ect
    (these could get very whitty or very grim lol ;P
     
    ps i herd we are all our own gods and devils but dont quote me ;)



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    Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:53:43 -0500
    From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com
    To: gathering at misera.net
    Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?

    Glad to hear 

    Just avoid the 2 stone tablets with the 10 directions o rules were broughn them.

    Mind you; Brendan was just asking because he has recently taken up sewing
    and was looking for any excuse to use this threads and needles.

    Cheers :)



    At 04:38 AM 1/12/2009, iPat wrote:


      wound almost healed
      then onto the tablets

      On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:
      > Thinking requires conditioning...are you sure?
      >
      > PS: How are you stitching up big fella?
      >
      >> truth simply 'is'
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From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Wed Jan 14 13:38:26 2009
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:38:26 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
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only beeing able to listen to music once a week ;( thats my idear of torcture;)

From: karen.weil at sddt.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:33:08 -0800Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?


Ha-ha, I can relate!  : ) 
 
k.w.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: melinda grant 
To: thegathering mailing list 
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?
i would find 2-3 easy to keep, but 1--would be a challenge,i like music on my itouch most of the day to listen to ;)

From: karen.weil at sddt.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:19:33 -0800Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?


Now those are some tough commandments, Milinda!  ; ) 
 
k.w.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: melinda grant 
To: thegathering mailing list 
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 6:14 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?
lol ;D))))))  that made me laugh hard--any hows its about time those ten rules were brought up to date-to relate to  2009---heres a few 1.thou shall not listen to there itouch/ipod more than twice a week.2.thou shall not eat fast food ever.3.thou shall not take more than 3 air flights in one year.ect(these could get very whitty or very grim lol ;P ps i herd we are all our own gods and devils but dont quote me ;)

Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:53:43 -0500From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?Glad to hear Just avoid the 2 stone tablets with the 10 directions o rules were broughn them.Mind you; Brendan was just asking because he has recently taken up sewingand was looking for any excuse to use this threads and needles.Cheers :)At 04:38 AM 1/12/2009, iPat wrote:
wound almost healedthen onto the tabletsOn Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:> Thinking requires conditioning...are you sure?>> PS: How are you stitching up big fella?>>> truth simply 'is'_______________________________________________Gathering mailing listGathering at misera.nethttp://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering 

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From karen.weil at sddt.com  Wed Jan 14 14:43:38 2009
From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:43:38 -0800
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
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Only once a week? That would be my idea of Hell!
Hope you and your fellow Gatherers are having a great 2009!

Cheers,

k.w.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: melinda grant 
  To: thegathering mailing list 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 10:38 AM
  Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?


  only beeing able to listen to music once a week ;( thats my idear of torcture;)


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  From: karen.weil at sddt.com
  To: gathering at misera.net
  Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:33:08 -0800
  Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?


  Ha-ha, I can relate!  : ) 

  k.w.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: melinda grant 
    To: thegathering mailing list 
    Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 9:12 AM
    Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?


    i would find 2-3 easy to keep, but 1--would be a challenge,i like music on my itouch most of the day to listen to ;)


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    From: karen.weil at sddt.com
    To: gathering at misera.net
    Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:19:33 -0800
    Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?


    Now those are some tough commandments, Milinda!  ; ) 

    k.w.
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: melinda grant 
      To: thegathering mailing list 
      Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 6:14 AM
      Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?


      lol ;D))))))  that made me laugh hard--any hows its about time those ten rules were brought up to date-to relate to  2009---heres a few
       
      1.thou shall not listen to there itouch/ipod more than twice a week.
      2.thou shall not eat fast food ever.
      3.thou shall not take more than 3 air flights in one year.
      ect
      (these could get very whitty or very grim lol ;P
       
      ps i herd we are all our own gods and devils but dont quote me ;)



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      Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:53:43 -0500
      From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com
      To: gathering at misera.net
      Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?

      Glad to hear 

      Just avoid the 2 stone tablets with the 10 directions o rules were broughn them.

      Mind you; Brendan was just asking because he has recently taken up sewing
      and was looking for any excuse to use this threads and needles.

      Cheers :)



      At 04:38 AM 1/12/2009, iPat wrote:


        wound almost healed
        then onto the tablets

        On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:
        > Thinking requires conditioning...are you sure?
        >
        > PS: How are you stitching up big fella?
        >
        >> truth simply 'is'
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From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:34:20 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
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yeah know what u mean lol    well i am getting ready to go to washington and new york visiting relatives there really excited about going about 6 members of my u.k family are flying out there with me,so i will hae company for that long journey--we fly out next sunday ;)   i think thats a good start to the year so far.....good luck to u in 09

From: karen.weil at sddt.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:43:38 -0800Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?


Only once a week? That would be my idea of Hell!
Hope you and your fellow Gatherers are having a great 2009!
 
Cheers,
 
k.w.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: melinda grant 
To: thegathering mailing list 
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?
only beeing able to listen to music once a week ;( thats my idear of torcture;)

From: karen.weil at sddt.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:33:08 -0800Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?


Ha-ha, I can relate!  : ) 
 
k.w.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: melinda grant 
To: thegathering mailing list 
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?
i would find 2-3 easy to keep, but 1--would be a challenge,i like music on my itouch most of the day to listen to ;)

From: karen.weil at sddt.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:19:33 -0800Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?


Now those are some tough commandments, Milinda!  ; ) 
 
k.w.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: melinda grant 
To: thegathering mailing list 
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 6:14 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?
lol ;D))))))  that made me laugh hard--any hows its about time those ten rules were brought up to date-to relate to  2009---heres a few 1.thou shall not listen to there itouch/ipod more than twice a week.2.thou shall not eat fast food ever.3.thou shall not take more than 3 air flights in one year.ect(these could get very whitty or very grim lol ;P ps i herd we are all our own gods and devils but dont quote me ;)

Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:53:43 -0500From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?Glad to hear Just avoid the 2 stone tablets with the 10 directions o rules were broughn them.Mind you; Brendan was just asking because he has recently taken up sewingand was looking for any excuse to use this threads and needles.Cheers :)At 04:38 AM 1/12/2009, iPat wrote:
wound almost healedthen onto the tabletsOn Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:> Thinking requires conditioning...are you sure?>> PS: How are you stitching up big fella?>>> truth simply 'is'_______________________________________________Gathering mailing listGathering at misera.nethttp://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering 

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From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:25:37 -0800
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
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Good for you! If you make it over here to the Left Coast, give us a holler!  Wish you a safe and enjoyable journey; enjoy the States!

Bon Voyage,

Karen 
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  From: melinda grant 
  To: thegathering mailing list 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 1:34 PM
  Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?


  yeah know what u mean lol    well i am getting ready to go to washington and new york visiting relatives there really excited about going about 6 members of my u.k family are flying out there with me,so i will hae company for that long journey--we fly out next sunday ;)   i think thats a good start to the year so far.....good luck to u in 09


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  Only once a week? That would be my idea of Hell!
  Hope you and your fellow Gatherers are having a great 2009!

  Cheers,

  k.w.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: melinda grant 
    To: thegathering mailing list 
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    Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?


    only beeing able to listen to music once a week ;( thats my idear of torcture;)


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    Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:33:08 -0800
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    Ha-ha, I can relate!  : ) 

    k.w.
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      From: melinda grant 
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      Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 9:12 AM
      Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?


      i would find 2-3 easy to keep, but 1--would be a challenge,i like music on my itouch most of the day to listen to ;)


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      Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:19:33 -0800
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      Now those are some tough commandments, Milinda!  ; ) 

      k.w.
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        From: melinda grant 
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        Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 6:14 AM
        Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?


        lol ;D))))))  that made me laugh hard--any hows its about time those ten rules were brought up to date-to relate to  2009---heres a few
         
        1.thou shall not listen to there itouch/ipod more than twice a week.
        2.thou shall not eat fast food ever.
        3.thou shall not take more than 3 air flights in one year.
        ect
        (these could get very whitty or very grim lol ;P
         
        ps i herd we are all our own gods and devils but dont quote me ;)



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        Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:53:43 -0500
        From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com
        To: gathering at misera.net
        Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?

        Glad to hear 

        Just avoid the 2 stone tablets with the 10 directions o rules were broughn them.

        Mind you; Brendan was just asking because he has recently taken up sewing
        and was looking for any excuse to use this threads and needles.

        Cheers :)



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          wound almost healed
          then onto the tablets

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          >
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:48:41 -0000
Subject: [kj] Us in a few years . . .
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7826717.stm
 
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From jelbod at hotmail.co.uk  Thu Jan 15 10:32:47 2009
From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk (jerry bodkin)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:32:47 +0000
Subject: [kj] Us in a few years . . .
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 That's scary, sweet and bizarre all rolled into one!
 
 
 Jel



Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:48:41 +0000From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.ukTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: [kj] Us in a few years . . .




 
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From Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk  Thu Jan 15 10:48:33 2009
From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk (Phillipps Marc)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:48:33 -0000
Subject: [kj] Us in a few years . . .
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>That's scary, sweet and bizarre all rolled into one!

 

I love that his son is into Jazz, it's like reverse rebellion :o) 

 

 

 

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 That's scary, sweet and bizarre all rolled into one!
 
 
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7826717.stm

 

 

 

 

 

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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Thu Jan 15 11:17:34 2009
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 03:17:34 +1100
Subject: [kj] Us in a few years . . .
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You just know he nails his wife to Bring Your Daughter to the Slaughter.

 

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From cook_paula at hotmail.com  Thu Jan 15 11:25:52 2009
From: cook_paula at hotmail.com (Paula Cook)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:25:52 +0000
Subject: [kj] Us in a few years
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Well good luck to him, at least he's enjoying himself! I wonder if he goes to any gigs or festivals!
 
> From: "Phillipps Marc" <Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk>> Subject: [kj] Us in a few years . . .> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"> <gathering at misera.net>> Message-ID:> <BD60B2A89D16094897629D4CCC50B1CB3A4947 at ED01VN01.NCL-HIS.NHS.UK>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7826717.stm> 
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From jelbod at hotmail.co.uk  Thu Jan 15 11:29:12 2009
From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk (jerry bodkin)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:29:12 +0000
Subject: [kj] Us in a few years
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 Yeah, farmers festivals!
 
 Jelly



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Well good luck to him, at least he's enjoying himself! I wonder if he goes to any gigs or festivals! > From: "Phillipps Marc" <Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk>> Subject: [kj] Us in a few years . . .> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"> <gathering at misera.net>> Message-ID:> <BD60B2A89D16094897629D4CCC50B1CB3A4947 at ED01VN01.NCL-HIS.NHS.UK>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7826717.stm> 



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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 08:35:46 -0800
Subject: [kj] Us in a few years . . .
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bankers breed hippies, who breed bankers...
;)



Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:48:33 +0000From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.ukTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] Us in a few years . . .






>That's scary, sweet and bizarre all rolled into one!
 
I love that his son is into Jazz, it?s like reverse rebellion :o) 
 
 
 




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From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Thu Jan 15 19:31:22 2009
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 00:31:22 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
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thanks for your kind wishes i will remember them when i am on the plane with me relatives--dont like flying much ;(  at the moment looks like we will be spending majority of time on the east coast,but indeed if we pass your way,i will look you up ok ;) cheers--milinda

From: karen.weil at sddt.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:25:37 -0800Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?


Good for you! If you make it over here to the Left Coast, give us a holler!  Wish you a safe and enjoyable journey; enjoy the States!
 
Bon Voyage,
 
Karen 

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To: thegathering mailing list 
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?
yeah know what u mean lol    well i am getting ready to go to washington and new york visiting relatives there really excited about going about 6 members of my u.k family are flying out there with me,so i will hae company for that long journey--we fly out next sunday ;)   i think thats a good start to the year so far.....good luck to u in 09

From: karen.weil at sddt.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:43:38 -0800Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?


Only once a week? That would be my idea of Hell!
Hope you and your fellow Gatherers are having a great 2009!
 
Cheers,
 
k.w.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: melinda grant 
To: thegathering mailing list 
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?
only beeing able to listen to music once a week ;( thats my idear of torcture;)

From: karen.weil at sddt.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:33:08 -0800Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?


Ha-ha, I can relate!  : ) 
 
k.w.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: melinda grant 
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Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?
i would find 2-3 easy to keep, but 1--would be a challenge,i like music on my itouch most of the day to listen to ;)

From: karen.weil at sddt.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:19:33 -0800Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?


Now those are some tough commandments, Milinda!  ; ) 
 
k.w.

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Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?
lol ;D))))))  that made me laugh hard--any hows its about time those ten rules were brought up to date-to relate to  2009---heres a few 1.thou shall not listen to there itouch/ipod more than twice a week.2.thou shall not eat fast food ever.3.thou shall not take more than 3 air flights in one year.ect(these could get very whitty or very grim lol ;P ps i herd we are all our own gods and devils but dont quote me ;)

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wound almost healedthen onto the tabletsOn Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:> Thinking requires conditioning...are you sure?>> PS: How are you stitching up big fella?>>> truth simply 'is'_______________________________________________Gathering mailing listGathering at misera.nethttp://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering 

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From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Thu Jan 15 19:37:00 2009
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 00:37:00 +0000
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lol folky--true!

From: folk.devil at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 08:35:46 -0800Subject: Re: [kj] Us in a few years . . .

bankers breed hippies, who breed bankers...;)

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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:03:39 -0800
Subject: [kj] OT: no god...?
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Above all, Milinda, have a great time in the States -- enjoy the East Coast! 

Smile,

k.w.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: melinda grant 
  To: thegathering mailing list 
  Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 4:31 PM
  Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?


  thanks for your kind wishes i will remember them when i am on the plane with me relatives--dont like flying much ;(  at the moment looks like we will be spending majority of time on the east coast,but indeed if we pass your way,i will look you up ok ;) cheers--milinda


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  From: karen.weil at sddt.com
  To: gathering at misera.net
  Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:25:37 -0800
  Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?


  Good for you! If you make it over here to the Left Coast, give us a holler!  Wish you a safe and enjoyable journey; enjoy the States!

  Bon Voyage,

  Karen 
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: melinda grant 
    To: thegathering mailing list 
    Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 1:34 PM
    Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?


    yeah know what u mean lol    well i am getting ready to go to washington and new york visiting relatives there really excited about going about 6 members of my u.k family are flying out there with me,so i will hae company for that long journey--we fly out next sunday ;)   i think thats a good start to the year so far.....good luck to u in 09


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    From: karen.weil at sddt.com
    To: gathering at misera.net
    Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:43:38 -0800
    Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?


    Only once a week? That would be my idea of Hell!
    Hope you and your fellow Gatherers are having a great 2009!

    Cheers,

    k.w.
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: melinda grant 
      To: thegathering mailing list 
      Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 10:38 AM
      Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?


      only beeing able to listen to music once a week ;( thats my idear of torcture;)


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      From: karen.weil at sddt.com
      To: gathering at misera.net
      Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:33:08 -0800
      Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?


      Ha-ha, I can relate!  : ) 

      k.w.
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: melinda grant 
        To: thegathering mailing list 
        Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 9:12 AM
        Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?


        i would find 2-3 easy to keep, but 1--would be a challenge,i like music on my itouch most of the day to listen to ;)


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        From: karen.weil at sddt.com
        To: gathering at misera.net
        Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:19:33 -0800
        Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?


        Now those are some tough commandments, Milinda!  ; ) 

        k.w.
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: melinda grant 
          To: thegathering mailing list 
          Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 6:14 AM
          Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?


          lol ;D))))))  that made me laugh hard--any hows its about time those ten rules were brought up to date-to relate to  2009---heres a few
           
          1.thou shall not listen to there itouch/ipod more than twice a week.
          2.thou shall not eat fast food ever.
          3.thou shall not take more than 3 air flights in one year.
          ect
          (these could get very whitty or very grim lol ;P
           
          ps i herd we are all our own gods and devils but dont quote me ;)



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          Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:53:43 -0500
          From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com
          To: gathering at misera.net
          Subject: Re: [kj] OT: no god...?

          Glad to hear 

          Just avoid the 2 stone tablets with the 10 directions o rules were broughn them.

          Mind you; Brendan was just asking because he has recently taken up sewing
          and was looking for any excuse to use this threads and needles.

          Cheers :)



          At 04:38 AM 1/12/2009, iPat wrote:


            wound almost healed
            then onto the tablets

            On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:
            > Thinking requires conditioning...are you sure?
            >
            > PS: How are you stitching up big fella?
            >
            >> truth simply 'is'
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From folk.devil at hotmail.com  Thu Jan 15 22:10:49 2009
From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 19:10:49 -0800
Subject: [kj] nostalgia
Message-ID: <BLU117-W2EF298E2F000FBF620A9C9DD40@phx.gbl>


Just listened to the Neon Hearts 'Popular Music'. Great stuff :)

am now listening to Prong..cleansing..

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From fluwdot at earthlink.net  Fri Jan 16 09:26:57 2009
From: fluwdot at earthlink.net (fluw)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:26:57 -0600
Subject: [kj] 16th
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Happy birthday R A V e n

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From fatpotanga at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 09:46:16 2009
From: fatpotanga at gmail.com (fatpotanga)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:46:16 +0000
Subject: [kj] 16th
In-Reply-To: <E1LNpf2-0003Zw-5E@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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& very happy birthday to you as well Todd
:)


On 16 Jan 2009, at 14:26, fluw wrote:

> Happy birthday R A V e n
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From elana_mojica at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 16 09:53:15 2009
From: elana_mojica at yahoo.com (Elana Mojica)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 06:53:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] 16th
References: <E1LNpf2-0003Zw-5E@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <191166.19012.qm@web57308.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

yes, a very happy birthday to the big bird. god i miss him




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Happy birthday R A V e n


      
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From fluwdot at earthlink.net  Fri Jan 16 10:04:01 2009
From: fluwdot at earthlink.net (fluw)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:04:01 -0600
Subject: [kj] 16th
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Thanks fatty pot!

 

  _____  

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of fatpotanga
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 8:46 AM
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] 16th

 

& very happy birthday to you as well Todd

:)

 

 

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From Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk  Fri Jan 16 09:48:58 2009
From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk (Phillipps Marc)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:48:58 -0000
Subject: [kj] 16th
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>& very happy birthday to you as well Todd

 

Seconded on both counts 

 

 

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of fatpotanga
Sent: 16 January 2009 14:46
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] 16th

 

& very happy birthday to you as well Todd

:)

 

 

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From: circusbar at uol.com.br (Circus Bar)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:20:17 -0200
Subject: [kj] 16th
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Happy Birthday Todd!!!

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From elana_mojica at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 16 11:21:21 2009
From: elana_mojica at yahoo.com (Elana Mojica)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:21:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] 16th
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doh! happy birthday todd




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To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 9:04:01 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] 16th

 
Thanks fatty pot!
 

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From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of fatpotanga
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009
8:46 AM
To: A list about all things
Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] 16th
 
& very happy birthday to you as well Todd
:)
 
 
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From jagargal at lycos.com  Fri Jan 16 12:29:11 2009
From: jagargal at lycos.com (Javier Garcia)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:29:11 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [kj] 16th
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From vassifer at earthlink.net  Fri Jan 16 12:32:10 2009
From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alex Smith)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:32:10 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [kj] 16th
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From folk.devil at hotmail.com  Fri Jan 16 12:45:38 2009
From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:45:38 -0800
Subject: [kj] 16th
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he was quite a busy man..
 
AbstinenceAscension Of The WatchersAmenBurnt Out StarsDie KruppsGodfleshHeadcountHellfire ClubHyperheadIn ExtremoKilling JokeKitschMinistryMob ResearchMonster Voodo MachineMurder, Inc.Neon HeartsPigfaceProngPsychic TVRevolting Cocks16 VoltSmartyrSnow BlackSociety 1Sons Of DominationSphan RanchToyahTreponem PalWELTWhy? Things BurnZilch



Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:32:10 -0500From: vassifer at earthlink.netTo: gathering at misera.net; gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] 16th


and raise a glass (or several) to the RAVEN!!!
Alex in NYC

 
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From fatpotanga at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 13:00:35 2009
From: fatpotanga at gmail.com (fatpotanga)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:00:35 +0000
Subject: [kj] 16th
In-Reply-To: <BLU117-W78187CC1627680C30F83B9DD40@phx.gbl>
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Gosh - it's ravens alphabet!
Now, there's a kids book...  :)

Shouldn't Belinda Carlisle be in there as well?

Didn't he do a stint as a driver for film/tv or did I just make that up?
I seem to remember that coming up round about the time Andy M hooked  
up with him in LA.


On 16 Jan 2009, at 17:45, folk devil wrote:

> he was quite a busy man..
>
> Abstinence
> Ascension Of The Watchers
> Amen
> Burnt Out Stars
> Die Krupps
> Godflesh
> Headcount
> Hellfire Club
> Hyperhead
> In Extremo
> Killing Joke
> Kitsch
> Ministry
> Mob Research
> Monster Voodo Machine
> Murder, Inc.
> Neon Hearts
> Pigface
> Prong
> Psychic TV
> Revolting Cocks
> 16 Volt
> Smartyr
> Snow Black
> Society 1
> Sons Of Domination
> Sphan Ranch
> Toyah
> Treponem Pal
> WELT
> Why? Things Burn
> Zilch
>
>
>
>
> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:32:10 -0500
> From: vassifer at earthlink.net
> To: gathering at misera.net; gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] 16th
>
>
> and raise a glass (or several) to the RAVEN!!!
> Alex in NYC
>
>
>
>
>
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From fluke1 at live.co.uk  Fri Jan 16 13:01:29 2009
From: fluke1 at live.co.uk (fluke fluke)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:01:29 +0000
Subject: [kj] 16th
In-Reply-To: <BLU117-W78187CC1627680C30F83B9DD40@phx.gbl>
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"he was quite a busy man.."


......................and look what happened
Jaz and Geordie: One band each  and a few half hearted solo efforts each; Still here .........Whereas Raven !!!!!




From: folk.devil at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:45:38 -0800
Subject: Re: [kj] 16th








he was quite a busy man..

 

Abstinence
Ascension Of The Watchers
Amen
Burnt Out Stars
Die Krupps
Godflesh
Headcount
Hellfire Club
Hyperhead
In Extremo
Killing Joke
Kitsch
Ministry
Mob Research
Monster Voodo Machine
Murder, Inc.
Neon Hearts
Pigface
Prong
Psychic TV
Revolting Cocks
16 Volt
Smartyr
Snow Black
Society 1
Sons Of Domination
Sphan Ranch
Toyah
Treponem Pal
WELT
Why? Things Burn
Zilch








Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:32:10 -0500
From: vassifer at earthlink.net
To: gathering at misera.net; gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] 16th





and raise a glass (or several) to the RAVEN!!!

Alex in NYC





 
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From elana_mojica at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 16 13:49:16 2009
From: elana_mojica at yahoo.com (Elana Mojica)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 10:49:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] 16th
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LOL 

yes, and i believe so...




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From: fatpotanga <fatpotanga at gmail.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:00:35 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] 16th

Gosh - it's ravens alphabet!
Now, there's a kids book...  :)

Shouldn't Belinda Carlisle be in there as well?


Didn't he do a stint as a driver for film/tv or did I just make that up?
I seem to remember that coming up round about the time Andy M hooked up with him in LA.




On 16 Jan 2009, at 17:45, folk devil wrote:

he was quite a busy man..
 
Abstinence
Ascension Of The Watchers
Amen
Burnt Out Stars
Die Krupps
Godflesh
Headcount
Hellfire Club
Hyperhead
In Extremo
Killing Joke
Kitsch
Ministry
Mob Research
Monster Voodo Machine
Murder, Inc.
Neon Hearts
Pigface
Prong
Psychic TV
Revolting Cocks
16 Volt
Smartyr
Snow Black
Society 1
Sons Of Domination
Sphan Ranch
Toyah
Treponem Pal
WELT
Why? Things Burn
Zilch



________________________________

Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:32:10 -0500
From: vassifer at earthlink.net
To: gathering at misera.net; gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] 16th


and raise a glass (or several) to the RAVEN!!!
Alex in NYC




 
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From jelbod at hotmail.co.uk  Fri Jan 16 14:11:12 2009
From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk (jerry bodkin)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:11:12 +0000
Subject: [kj] 16th
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 I've noticed one of the letters missing is Y, which is a question i have asked myself often, Why are the good ones taken so young?
 
 
 Jelancholy.



Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 10:49:16 -0800From: elana_mojica at yahoo.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] 16th



LOL yes, and i believe so...



From: fatpotanga <fatpotanga at gmail.com>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:00:35 PMSubject: Re: [kj] 16thGosh - it's ravens alphabet!
Now, there's a kids book...  :)

Shouldn't Belinda Carlisle be in there as well?


Didn't he do a stint as a driver for film/tv or did I just make that up?
I seem to remember that coming up round about the time Andy M hooked up with him in LA.




On 16 Jan 2009, at 17:45, folk devil wrote:

he was quite a busy man.. AbstinenceAscension Of The WatchersAmenBurnt Out StarsDie KruppsGodfleshHeadcountHellfire ClubHyperheadIn ExtremoKilling JokeKitschMinistryMob ResearchMonster Voodo MachineMurder, Inc.Neon HeartsPigfaceProngPsychic TVRevolting Cocks16 VoltSmartyrSnow BlackSociety 1Sons Of DominationSphan RanchToyahTreponem PalWELTWhy? Things BurnZilch

Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:32:10 -0500From: vassifer at earthlink.netTo: gathering at misera..net; gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] 16thand raise a glass (or several) to the RAVEN!!!Alex in NYC

 

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From karen.weil at sddt.com  Fri Jan 16 15:27:46 2009
From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:27:46 -0800
Subject: [kj] 16th
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Feliz cumpleano, bon anniversaire, gefeliciteerd -- Happy Birthday, Todd! : )

k.w.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Elana Mojica 
  To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
  Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 8:21 AM
  Subject: Re: [kj] 16th


  doh! happy birthday todd




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  Thanks fatty pot!




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  Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 8:46 AM
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  & very happy birthday to you as well Todd

  :)





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From fluwdot at earthlink.net  Fri Jan 16 15:34:28 2009
From: fluwdot at earthlink.net (fluw)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:34:28 -0600
Subject: [kj] 16th
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Javier

 

Thanks Javier, I'm in Austin TX now - not as cold as Albany, it's sweater
weather here today.might even go for a an outdoor swim in the stacy pool
spring!

 

tw

  _____  

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Javier Garcia
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 11:29 AM
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] 16th

 

Happy B-day Todd!! hope you spend a great one and the weather show some
mercy for you my friend. I've read and watched it has been very cold up
there, but hey! a couple of vodkas (or Tequilas ;) could make it warmer for
you. 

Dear uncle Raven, damn! i share that nostalgic feeling with you guys. But
-if there's a heaven- he's having a great one, he's pretty hiiiiiigh, that's
for sure. 

Javier 
mexcity 









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Subject : Re: [kj] 16th

Date : Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:04:01 -0600

>From : "fluw" <fluwdot at earthlink.net>

To : "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'"
<gathering at misera.net>



Thanks fatty pot! 







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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On 

Behalf Of fatpotanga 

Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 8:46 AM 

To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 

Subject: Re: [kj] 16th 







& very happy birthday to you as well Todd 



:) 











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From elana_mojica at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 16 16:20:36 2009
From: elana_mojica at yahoo.com (Elana Mojica)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:20:36 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] 16th
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You're braver than me.. its too cold here right now!!!




________________________________
From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 2:34:28 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] 16th

 
Javier
 
Thanks Javier, I?m in Austin TX now - not as
cold as Albany ,
it?s sweater weather here today?might even go for a an outdoor swim in the stacy
pool spring!
 
tw

________________________________
 
From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Javier Garcia
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009
11:29 AM
To: A list about all things
Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] 16th
 
Happy B-day Todd!! hope
you spend a great one and the weather show some mercy for you my friend. I've
read and watched it has been very cold up there, but hey! a couple of vodkas
(or Tequilas ;) could make it warmer for you. 

Dear uncle Raven, damn! i share that nostalgic feeling with you guys. But -if
there's a heaven- he's having a great one, he's pretty hiiiiiigh, that's for
sure. 

Javier 
mexcity 








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Date : Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:04:01
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To : "'A list about all
things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'" <gathering at misera.net>



Thanks fatty pot! 







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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On 

Behalf Of fatpotanga 

Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 8:46 AM 

To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 

Subject: Re: [kj] 16th 







& very happy birthday to you as well Todd 



:) 











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From wrightdvdw at aol.com  Fri Jan 16 17:13:55 2009
From: wrightdvdw at aol.com (wrightdvdw at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:13:55 -0500
Subject: [kj] 16th
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Have a good one todd, and have raised a few for our bruv Raven.

Dave

hope this dont bounce


-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
<gathering at misera.net>; A list about all things Killing Joke (the 
band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:32
Subject: Re: [kj] 16th



Fifthe or sixthed -- happy brithday, Fluw -- and raise a glass (or 
several) to the RAVEN!!!

Alex in NYC




-----Original Message-----
From: Javier Garcia
Sent: Jan 16, 2009 12:29 PM
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
Subject: Re: [kj] 16th

Happy B-day Todd!! hope you spend a great one and the weather show some 
mercy for you my friend. I've read and watched it has been very cold up 
there, but hey! a couple of vodkas (or Tequilas ;) could make it warmer 
for you.

Dear uncle Raven, damn! i share that nostalgic feeling with you guys. 
But -if there's a heaven- he's having a great one, he's pretty 
hiiiiiigh, that's for sure.

Javier
mexcity









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Subject : Re: [kj] 16th

Date : Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:04:01 -0600

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<gathering at misera.net>



Thanks fatty pot!







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Behalf Of fatpotanga

Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 8:46 AM

To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

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& very happy birthday to you as well Todd



:)











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From jagargal at lycos.com  Fri Jan 16 17:32:48 2009
From: jagargal at lycos.com (Javier Garcia)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:32:48 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [kj] 16th
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From elana_mojica at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 16 17:34:49 2009
From: elana_mojica at yahoo.com (Elana Mojica)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:34:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] 16th
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i know he sent some pictures of it to Jester but hell if I know what happened to em..




________________________________
From: Javier Garcia <jagargal at lycos.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 4:32:48 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] 16th

You're so very right Fatty! He did some stunt driving, i'm pretty sure it was for a movie but can't remember what it was. What i do remember is he wrote a message sharing his experience with us around that old good times when he was a Gatherer. 

Hope someone remember what was the movie title. 


Javier 
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Subject : Re: [kj] 16th

Date : Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:00:35 +0000

From : fatpotanga <fatpotanga at gmail.com>

To : "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)" <gathering at misera.net>



Gosh - it's ravens alphabet! 

Now, there's a kids book...  :) 



Shouldn't Belinda Carlisle be in there as well? 



Didn't he do a stint as a driver for film/tv or did I just make that up? 

I seem to remember that coming up round about the time Andy M hooked 

up with him in LA. 





On 16 Jan 2009, at 17:45, folk devil wrote: 



> he was quite a busy man.. 

> 

> Abstinence 

> Ascension Of The Watchers 

> Amen 

> Burnt Out Stars 

> Die Krupps 

> Godflesh 

> Headcount 

> Hellfire Club 

> Hyperhead 

> In Extremo 

> Killing Joke 

> Kitsch 

> Ministry 

> Mob Research 

> Monster Voodo Machine 

> Murder, Inc. 

> Neon Hearts 

> Pigface 

> Prong 

> Psychic TV 

> Revolting Cocks 

> 16 Volt 

> Smartyr 

> Snow Black 

> Society 1 

> Sons Of Domination 

> Sphan Ranch 

> Toyah 

> Treponem Pal 

> WELT 

> Why? Things Burn 

> Zilch 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:32:10 -0500 

> From: vassifer at earthlink.net 

> To: gathering at misera.net; gathering at misera.net 

> Subject: Re: [kj] 16th 

> 

> 

> and raise a glass (or several) to the RAVEN!!! 

> Alex in NYC 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

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From sandstorm_mg at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 16 17:37:17 2009
From: sandstorm_mg at yahoo.com (Michael Garcia)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:37:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] 16th
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I'll raise?a glass to both tonight!

cheers




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To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:27:46 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] 16th


Feliz cumpleano, bon anniversaire, gefeliciteerd -- Happy Birthday, Todd! : )
?
k.w.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Elana Mojica 
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] 16th

doh! happy birthday todd




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To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 9:04:01 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] 16th


Thanks fatty pot!
?

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From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of fatpotanga
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 8:46 AM
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] 16th
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& very happy birthday to you as well Todd
:)
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From cliffmonk at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 18:52:27 2009
From: cliffmonk at gmail.com (Cliff Livingston)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:52:27 -0900
Subject: [kj] 16th
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Happy Birthday Fluw and Raven

2009/1/16 fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>

>  Happy birthday R A V e n
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From wo2 at gmx.de  Sat Jan 17 06:37:28 2009
From: wo2 at gmx.de (Wolfgang Worschech)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 12:37:28 +0100
Subject: [kj] 16th
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2 days ago 

i dream of raven and barry white together with the love unlimited orchestra
they played  among others: see the trouble with me + let the music play
dont remember they played : age of greed  or money is not our god .. .
i didnt know it was his birthday
thank you very much

love + peace

wolfi



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> An: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> Betreff: Re: [kj] 16th

> Happy Birthday Fluw and Raven
> 
> 2009/1/16 fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
> 
> >  Happy birthday R A V e n
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From joker at Z6.com  Sat Jan 17 15:03:44 2009
From: joker at Z6.com (Rob's Arse)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 12:03:44 -0800
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From lennonka at gmail.com  Sun Jan 18 06:10:44 2009
From: lennonka at gmail.com (Lennonka)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 12:10:44 +0100
Subject: [kj] 16th
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References: <20090117120344.A973308A@resin18.mta.everyone.net>
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There's a song for Raven: Memory of a Hero by the 1000 Planets:
http://www.myspace.com/1000planets

It has a 85-KJ feeling and it was made by fellow Gatherers.

On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Rob's Arse <joker at z6.com> wrote:

> Happy birthday Todd. hope you have a blast.
>
> Happy Birthday too to Raven, who I am sure is having one helluva party
> somewhere!
>
> www.iamscuzzy.com www.myspace.com/scuzzywear
>
> --- fluwdot at earthlink.net wrote:
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> From: "fluw" <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'" <
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> Subject: [kj] 16th
> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:26:57 -0600
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From lennonka at gmail.com  Sun Jan 18 06:24:28 2009
From: lennonka at gmail.com (Lennonka)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 12:24:28 +0100
Subject: [kj] 16th
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Dammit, they've removed it.

On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Lennonka <lennonka at gmail.com> wrote:

> There's a song for Raven: Memory of a Hero by the 1000 Planets:
> http://www.myspace.com/1000planets
>
> It has a 85-KJ feeling and it was made by fellow Gatherers.
>
> On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Rob's Arse <joker at z6.com> wrote:
>
>> Happy birthday Todd. hope you have a blast.
>>
>> Happy Birthday too to Raven, who I am sure is having one helluva party
>> somewhere!
>>
>> www.iamscuzzy.com www.myspace.com/scuzzywear
>>
>> --- fluwdot at earthlink.net wrote:
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>> From: "fluw" <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
>> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'" <
>> gathering at misera.net>
>> Subject: [kj] 16th
>> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:26:57 -0600
>>
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From fatpotanga at gmail.com  Sun Jan 18 11:17:46 2009
From: fatpotanga at gmail.com (fatpotanga)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:17:46 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT: UK parents with kids under 16 between 01-03
In-Reply-To: <959032.19992.qm@web57309.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <10492959.1232127131192.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<BLU117-W78187CC1627680C30F83B9DD40@phx.gbl>
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hola!
Just been shown this.
It is available to households which included children under 16 between  
April 6, 2001, and April 5, 2003.
not means tested & backdatable 5 years.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1116482/Just-17-days-left-parents-claim-little-known-1-000-tax-windfall.html

From leechgate at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 18 21:24:14 2009
From: leechgate at yahoo.com (Chris Mccool)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:24:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] Every New Dead Ghost
In-Reply-To: <637710.92791.qm@web57315.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <608142.37644.qm@web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=605455
?
Anybody ever heard these guys?They've got a cover of "Pssyche" up on their page for downloading/playing.Thought the vocals were awful,but still figured it might be of interest to some.

--- On Fri, 1/16/09, Elana Mojica <elana_mojica at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Elana Mojica <elana_mojica at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] 16th
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 4:34 PM






i know he sent some pictures of it to Jester but hell if I know what happened to em..





From: Javier Garcia <jagargal at lycos.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 4:32:48 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] 16th

You're so very right Fatty! He did some stunt driving, i'm pretty sure it was for a movie but can't remember what it was. What i do remember is he wrote a message sharing his experience with us around that old good times when he was a Gatherer. 

Hope someone remember what was the movie title. 


Javier 
mexcity 









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Subject : Re: [kj] 16th

Date : Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:00:35 +0000

>From : fatpotanga <fatpotanga at gmail.com>

To : "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)" <gathering at misera.net>



Gosh - it's ravens alphabet! 

Now, there's a kids book... :) 



Shouldn't Belinda Carlisle be in there as well? 



Didn't he do a stint as a driver for film/tv or did I just make that up? 

I seem to remember that coming up round about the time Andy M hooked 

up with him in LA. 





On 16 Jan 2009, at 17:45, folk devil wrote: 



> he was quite a busy man.. 

> 

> Abstinence 

> Ascension Of The Watchers 

> Amen 

> Burnt Out Stars 

> Die Krupps 

> Godflesh 

> Headcount 

> Hellfire Club 

> Hyperhead 

> In Extremo 

> Killing Joke 

> Kitsch 

> Ministry 

> Mob Research 

> Monster Voodo Machine 

> Murder, Inc. 

> Neon Hearts 

> Pigface 

> Prong 

> Psychic TV 

> Revolting Cocks 

> 16 Volt 

> Smartyr 

> Snow Black 

> Society 1 

> Sons Of Domination 

> Sphan Ranch 

> Toyah 

> Treponem Pal 

> WELT 

> Why? Things Burn 

> Zilch 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:32:10 -0500 

> From: vassifer at earthlink.net 

> To: gathering at misera.net; gathering at misera.net 

> Subject: Re: [kj] 16th 

> 

> 

> and raise a glass (or several) to the RAVEN!!! 

> Alex in NYC 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

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From folk.devil at hotmail.com  Mon Jan 19 18:10:02 2009
From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:10:02 -0800
Subject: [kj] Every New Dead Ghost
In-Reply-To: <608142.37644.qm@web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
References: <637710.92791.qm@web57315.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
	<608142.37644.qm@web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU117-W931155E90334D1F4F99889DD30@phx.gbl>


"you're alone in the park"?

Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:24:14 -0800
From: leechgate at yahoo.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] Every New Dead Ghost

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=605455
 
Anybody ever heard these guys?They've got a cover of "Pssyche" up on their page for downloading/playing.Thought the vocals were awful,but still figured it might be of interest to some.




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From jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk  Tue Jan 20 02:20:10 2009
From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk (jo)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 07:20:10 -0000
Subject: [kj] (no subject)
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Who's birthday is it today?

It's mine! 


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From cliffmonk at gmail.com  Tue Jan 20 02:43:56 2009
From: cliffmonk at gmail.com (Cliff Livingston)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 22:43:56 -0900
Subject: [kj] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <000e01c97acf$87b3b450$0100000a@jo>
References: <000e01c97acf$87b3b450$0100000a@jo>
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happy birthday jo

On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 10:20 PM, jo <jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk> wrote:

>  Who's birthday is it today?
>
> It's mine!
>
>
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From lennonka at gmail.com  Tue Jan 20 03:48:24 2009
From: lennonka at gmail.com (Lennonka)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:48:24 +0100
Subject: [kj] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <000e01c97acf$87b3b450$0100000a@jo>
References: <000e01c97acf$87b3b450$0100000a@jo>
Message-ID: <101ab85f0901200048t5530991bubad56ec5aae7316a@mail.gmail.com>

All the best, Jo!

On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 8:20 AM, jo <jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk> wrote:

>  Who's birthday is it today?
>
> It's mine!
>
>
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From fatpotanga at gmail.com  Tue Jan 20 04:03:45 2009
From: fatpotanga at gmail.com (fatpotanga)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:03:45 +0000
Subject: [kj] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <000e01c97acf$87b3b450$0100000a@jo>
References: <000e01c97acf$87b3b450$0100000a@jo>
Message-ID: <66E9E774-E997-456B-8F01-65052FBB0CD6@gmail.com>

Happy b'day Jo!

jamie

From Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk  Tue Jan 20 04:09:52 2009
From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk (Janean Lancaster)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:09:52 -0000
Subject: [kj] (no subject)
Message-ID: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DA0E@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal>

Have a good one!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
> On Behalf Of fatpotanga
> Sent: 20 January 2009 09:04
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject)
> 
> Happy b'day Jo!
> 
> jamie
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From blazingstar418 at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 20 04:23:45 2009
From: blazingstar418 at yahoo.com (Blazingstar418)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 01:23:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] (no subject)
Message-ID: <441840.15107.qm@web57107.mail.re3.yahoo.com>


Happy Birthday from across the pond!

A L P

"The scene was wild and somewhat sinister. The darkness, the palms, the mountainous background, the silent lake below, the impenetrable canopy of space, studded with secretive and significant stars, formed a stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze of the ceremony."

--- On Mon, 1/19/09, jo <jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk> wrote:

From: jo <jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk>
Subject: [kj] (no subject)
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 11:20 PM



 
 

Who's birthday is it today?
?
It's mine! 
?
?
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From circusbar at uol.com.br  Tue Jan 20 06:37:41 2009
From: circusbar at uol.com.br (Circus Bar)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:37:41 -0200
Subject: [kj] (no subject)
References: <000e01c97acf$87b3b450$0100000a@jo>
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happy birthday Jo!!!

d i a z
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From jelbod at hotmail.co.uk  Tue Jan 20 07:09:03 2009
From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk (jerry bodkin)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 12:09:03 +0000
Subject: [kj] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <000e01c97acf$87b3b450$0100000a@jo>
References: <000e01c97acf$87b3b450$0100000a@jo>
Message-ID: <BAY135-W49A8A39590A63856D47F7398D00@phx.gbl>


 
 Happy Birthday Jo, seems there is quite a few of us Capricorns on the list.
 
 Jel



From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 07:20:10 +0000Subject: [kj] (no subject)


Who's birthday is it today?
 
It's mine! 
 
 
 
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From folk.devil at hotmail.com  Tue Jan 20 11:20:34 2009
From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:20:34 -0800
Subject: [kj] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <000e01c97acf$87b3b450$0100000a@jo>
References: <000e01c97acf$87b3b450$0100000a@jo>
Message-ID: <BLU117-W73035448EACAEB8EAA20E9DD00@phx.gbl>


Happy Birthday, Jo! :D

From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 07:20:10 +0000Subject: [kj] (no subject)


Who's birthday is it today?
 
It's mine! 
 
 
 
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From fluwdot at earthlink.net  Tue Jan 20 11:35:03 2009
From: fluwdot at earthlink.net (fluw)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:35:03 -0600
Subject: [kj] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <BAY135-W49A8A39590A63856D47F7398D00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <E1LPJZE-0000Ge-Rc@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

>From a fellow Capricorn, happy birthday JO

 

  _____  

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of jerry bodkin
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 6:09 AM
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject)

 

 
 Happy Birthday Jo, seems there is quite a few of us Capricorns on the list.
 
 Jel



  _____  


From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 07:20:10 +0000
Subject: [kj] (no subject)



Who's birthday is it today?

 

It's mine! 

 

 

 

 

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From jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk  Tue Jan 20 11:41:24 2009
From: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk (Jim Harper)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 16:41:24 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <000e01c97acf$87b3b450$0100000a@jo>
Message-ID: <797667.87900.qm@web25907.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

Happy birthday Jo (and the earlier people who I failed to congratulate).
?
Jim.

--- On Tue, 20/1/09, jo <jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk> wrote:

From: jo <jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk>
Subject: [kj] (no subject)
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
Date: Tuesday, 20 January, 2009, 7:20 AM





Who's birthday is it today?
?
It's mine! 
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From jagargal at lycos.com  Tue Jan 20 11:49:58 2009
From: jagargal at lycos.com (Javier Garcia)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:49:58 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [kj] [RE] (no subject)
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From jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk  Tue Jan 20 12:38:08 2009
From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk (jo)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 17:38:08 -0000
Subject: [kj] (no subject)
References: <E1LPJZE-0000Ge-Rc@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <00f901c97b25$dba6fc10$0100000a@jo>

Ah yes the true Aeon of Power, yet to come.  We'll observe, from our stealthily set in stone viewpoint; the applied Majik of present times- in the Age of Capricorn - cor, inhale:-))

  From a fellow Capricorn, happy birthday JO

   


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  From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of jerry bodkin
  Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 6:09 AM
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   Happy Birthday Jo, seems there is quite a few of us Capricorns on the list.
   
   Jel




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  From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk
  To: gathering at misera.net
  Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 07:20:10 +0000
  Subject: [kj] (no subject)



  Who's birthday is it today?

   

  It's mine! 

   

   

   

   


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From jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk  Tue Jan 20 12:39:25 2009
From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk (jo)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 17:39:25 -0000
Subject: [kj] [RE] (no subject)
References: <20090120114959.HM.0000000000009kF@jagargal.mail-wwl12.bo3.lycos.com.lycos.com>
Message-ID: <011201c97b26$09c292d0$0100000a@jo>

I had chocolate profitieroles but I sat on them.  Mmmm good for piles? 

Thanks:-)))


  Happy Birthday!... Hope you get a nice chocolate cake and a lot of vanilla icecream! 

  Javier 
  mexcity 








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    Who's birthday is it today? 



    It's mine! 








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From karen.weil at sddt.com  Tue Jan 20 13:21:19 2009
From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:21:19 -0800
Subject: [kj] (no subject)
References: <000e01c97acf$87b3b450$0100000a@jo>
	<101ab85f0901200048t5530991bubad56ec5aae7316a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5BA9C67A3D804B4E896FC6322A6FDEB5@edweil>

Yes, many happy returns, Jo!  Celebrate well!

Cheers,

k.w.
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  From: Lennonka 
  To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 12:48 AM
  Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject)


  All the best, Jo!


  On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 8:20 AM, jo <jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk> wrote:

    Who's birthday is it today?

    It's mine! 




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From killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com  Tue Jan 20 13:25:51 2009
From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com (The Exorcist)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 13:25:51 -0500
Subject: [kj] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <000e01c97acf$87b3b450$0100000a@jo>
References: <000e01c97acf$87b3b450$0100000a@jo>
Message-ID: <0KDS002SG8J6QA80@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

Guess who is wishing you a Happy Birthday today...

ME!

Happy B'day Jo!

May you have health, wealth and many orgasms.

At 02:20 AM 1/20/2009, jo wrote:
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From jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk  Tue Jan 20 13:32:44 2009
From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk (jo)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:32:44 -0000
Subject: [kj] (no subject)
References: <000e01c97acf$87b3b450$0100000a@jo>
	<0KDS002SG8J6QA80@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Message-ID: <015f01c97b2d$7c9ae300$0100000a@jo>


  May you have health, wealth and many orgasms......

  exxxorcist

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  ...et tu dans 2009 

  I shall be some time....
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From fatpotanga at gmail.com  Tue Jan 20 13:44:05 2009
From: fatpotanga at gmail.com (fatpotanga)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:44:05 +0000
Subject: [kj] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <0KDS002SG8J6QA80@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
References: <000e01c97acf$87b3b450$0100000a@jo>
	<0KDS002SG8J6QA80@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Message-ID: <8243AA5C-B57F-428B-9178-63E41503BC18@gmail.com>

On 20 Jan 2009, at 18:25, The Exorcist wrote:

> May you have health, wealth and many orgasms.

ha! ha! ha!
fabulous - I shall have to steal that one... :)

From jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk  Tue Jan 20 15:42:51 2009
From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk (jo)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 20:42:51 -0000
Subject: [kj] (no subject)
References: <000e01c97acf$87b3b450$0100000a@jo>
	<13071bf00901192343y7242a4afwed7f2a67ddff2546@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <01ee01c97b3f$a9743090$0100000a@jo>

I'm courtieously living the dribble.  
xxxx


  happy birthday jo 


  On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 10:20 PM, jo <jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk> wrote:

    Who's birthday is it today?

    It's mine! 




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From vassifer at earthlink.net  Tue Jan 20 19:18:44 2009
From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alexander Smith)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:18:44 -0500
Subject: [kj] (no subject)
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Belated happy birthday wishes, Jo!

Rock!

Alex in NYC


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> happy birthday Jo!!!
>
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From jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk  Tue Jan 20 20:28:13 2009
From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk (jo)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 01:28:13 -0000
Subject: [kj] (no subject)
References: <000e01c97acf$87b3b450$0100000a@jo><0KDS002SG8J6QA80@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
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> 
>> May you have health, wealth and many orgasms.
> 
> ha! ha! ha!
> fabulous - I shall have to steal that one... :)
>
:::::::::::::::::::::::::

absolutely; better than a fiddely handshake


From dpeace at bigfoot.com  Tue Jan 20 20:28:25 2009
From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 01:28:25 -0000
Subject: [kj] Every New Dead Ghost
In-Reply-To: <BLU117-W931155E90334D1F4F99889DD30@phx.gbl>
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Listening to too much Tubeway Army, I expect.

 

Darren

Hungerford, UK

 

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Behalf Of folk devil
Sent: 19 January 2009 23:10
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Every New Dead Ghost

 

"you're alone in the park"?

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Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:24:14 -0800
From: leechgate at yahoo.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] Every New Dead Ghost


http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=605455

 

Anybody ever heard these guys?They've got a cover of "Pssyche" up on their
page for downloading/playing.Thought the vocals were awful,but still figured
it might be of interest to some.



 

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From killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com  Tue Jan 20 21:33:10 2009
From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com (The Exorcist)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 21:33:10 -0500
Subject: [kj] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <8243AA5C-B57F-428B-9178-63E41503BC18@gmail.com>
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Since I can't afford the fees to copyright , nor 
can I deal with lawyers and business shmucks,
feel free to steal!

I can't even find the ? on my keyboard (Hell, I'm 
still looking for the "any" key).

At 01:44 PM 1/20/2009, fatpotanga wrote:
>On 20 Jan 2009, at 18:25, The Exorcist wrote:
>
>>May you have health, wealth and many orgasms.
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>ha! ha! ha!
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From bawhitehead at gmail.com  Fri Jan 23 11:15:18 2009
From: bawhitehead at gmail.com (Brian Whitehead)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:15:18 +0000
Subject: [kj] Geordie - one song
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Hello out there

BTW
The winner was Pandys from Ha!

Brian.

2008/12/9 Phillipps Marc <Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk>

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>
>
>
> If you had to play just one song to a non KJer that best demonstrates
> Geordie's abilities/style what would it be?
>
> Brian.
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From partyslammer at socal.rr.com  Fri Jan 23 11:32:03 2009
From: partyslammer at socal.rr.com (TB)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 08:32:03 -0800
Subject: [kj] ASTEROOOOOIIIIIDDDDSSS!!!!!!
In-Reply-To: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DA0E@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal>
References: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DA0E@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal>
Message-ID: <65EAF75958B841B198AD6256DADBFE99@Bell2007PC>

This is fuckin' genius:

http://shitbagz.com/gameZ/assteroidZDDEbeta

Van Halen asteroids.

T.B.

From folk.devil at hotmail.com  Fri Jan 23 14:10:09 2009
From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:10:09 -0800
Subject: [kj] Smash hits quiz
Message-ID: <BLU117-W50AE6F33E96D27D8A239EA9DCF0@phx.gbl>


1 Name youth?s first band?
 
2 What band did Youth help form after he left kj?
 
3A Name Raven?s first band?
 
3B Raven?s cousin  formed this band, who was he and what band had he formerly been in?
 
4 Which reggae artist is Youth named after?
 
5 Which 2 prong albums did Raven play on?
 
6 Jaz collaborated with Anne Dudley for "Songs From the Victorious City". Which band did she formerly play with?
 
7 What sex pistols song did KJ cover?
 
8 which kj member described their sound as ?the earth vomiting??
 
9 what position was Jaz given by the EU, in 2002?
 
10A How many passports does Jaz have?
 
10B Which countries?
 
11 As well as Jaz, name 2 more people who have played keyboards for the band.
 
12 What make AND model semi does Geordie play?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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From bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com  Fri Jan 23 14:24:22 2009
From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com (Bo Krogsgaard)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 20:24:22 +0100
Subject: [kj] Smash hits quiz
In-Reply-To: <BLU117-W50AE6F33E96D27D8A239EA9DCF0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU117-W50AE6F33E96D27D8A239EA9DCF0@phx.gbl>
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On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 8:10 PM, folk devil <folk.devil at hotmail.com> wrote:

> 6 Jaz collaborated with Anne Dudley for "Songs From the Victorious City".
> Which band did she formerly play with?

I know what band you are fishing for, but she was actually an
uncredited member of Yes before that (the 90125 album).


b

From folk.devil at hotmail.com  Fri Jan 23 14:32:01 2009
From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:32:01 -0800
Subject: [kj] Smash hits quiz
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ooh, bonus point! ;)
I had no idea :) Rick must have been traumatic for her...> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 20:24:22 +0100> From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] Smash hits quiz> > On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 8:10 PM, folk devil <folk.devil at hotmail.com> wrote:> > > 6 Jaz collaborated with Anne Dudley for "Songs From the Victorious City".> > Which band did she formerly play with?> > I know what band you are fishing for, but she was actually an> uncredited member of Yes before that (the 90125 album).> > > b> _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Jan 23 14:38:34 2009
From: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk (Jim Harper)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 19:38:34 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] KJ keyboards
Message-ID: <606776.91141.qm@web25907.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

The quiz has prompted me to ask a question I meant to ask a while back.: Who played keyboards on the last tour? Was it Reza? I keep thinking of Nick Waller, but I'm sure that he 'left' a while back.
?
Jim.

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Available from Noir Publishing, Amazon.co.uk, Waterstones and all good bookstores.


      
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From vassifer at earthlink.net  Fri Jan 23 15:13:13 2009
From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alex Smith)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:13:13 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [kj] KJ keyboards
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From wessidetempest at hotmail.com  Fri Jan 23 16:38:29 2009
From: wessidetempest at hotmail.com (Christof hamille)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:38:29 -0500
Subject: [kj] ASTEROOOOOIIIIIDDDDSSS!!!!!!
In-Reply-To: <65EAF75958B841B198AD6256DADBFE99@Bell2007PC>
References: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DA0E@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal>
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You have it spelled wrong

it's 

Assteroids!

classic

Chris

> From: partyslammer at socal.rr.com
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 08:32:03 -0800
> Subject: [kj] ASTEROOOOOIIIIIDDDDSSS!!!!!!
> 
> This is fuckin' genius:
> 
> http://shitbagz.com/gameZ/assteroidZDDEbeta
> 
> Van Halen asteroids.
> 
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From karen.weil at sddt.com  Fri Jan 23 17:29:14 2009
From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 14:29:14 -0800
Subject: [kj] ASTEROOOOOIIIIIDDDDSSS!!!!!!
References: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DA0E@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal><65EAF75958B841B198AD6256DADBFE99@Bell2007PC>
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You mean like the video game?  ; ) 


k.w.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Christof hamille 
  To: The Gathering 
  Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 1:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [kj] ASTEROOOOOIIIIIDDDDSSS!!!!!!


  You have it spelled wrong

  it's 

  Assteroids!

  classic

  Chris

  > From: partyslammer at socal.rr.com
  > To: gathering at misera.net
  > Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 08:32:03 -0800
  > Subject: [kj] ASTEROOOOOIIIIIDDDDSSS!!!!!!
  > 
  > This is fuckin' genius:
  > 
  > http://shitbagz.com/gameZ/assteroidZDDEbeta
  > 
  > Van Halen asteroids.
  > 
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From angrytomhanks at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 23 18:45:16 2009
From: angrytomhanks at yahoo.com (Leigh Newton)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:45:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] ASTEROOOOOIIIIIDDDDSSS!!!!!!
References: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DA0E@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal>
	<65EAF75958B841B198AD6256DADBFE99@Bell2007PC>
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HA! Awesome! Thanks.

 http://www.nightruiner.com
http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope
http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale



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To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 11:32:03 AM
Subject: [kj] ASTEROOOOOIIIIIDDDDSSS!!!!!!

This is fuckin' genius:

http://shitbagz.com/gameZ/assteroidZDDEbeta

Van Halen asteroids.

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From folk.devil at hotmail.com  Fri Jan 23 19:07:34 2009
From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:07:34 -0800
Subject: [kj] Someone kick it..
Message-ID: <BLU117-W242E88E741A15A14F2AE839DCC0@phx.gbl>


I think it's dead.
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From jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk  Fri Jan 23 19:38:42 2009
From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk (jo)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 00:38:42 -0000
Subject: [kj] Someone kick it..
References: <BLU117-W242E88E741A15A14F2AE839DCC0@phx.gbl>
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Ouch!




I think it's dead.
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From dpeace at bigfoot.com  Fri Jan 23 19:52:01 2009
From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 00:52:01 -0000
Subject: [kj] Someone kick it..
In-Reply-To: <BLU117-W242E88E741A15A14F2AE839DCC0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU117-W242E88E741A15A14F2AE839DCC0@phx.gbl>
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Well,  I hear there's a Jaz symphonic work Wagnerifying the oeuvre of Black
Lace in the offing, if that's of any interest? With Yo-Yo Ma and Rolf
Harris.

 

Darren

Hungerford, UK

 

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of folk devil
Sent: 24 January 2009 00:08
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] Someone kick it..

 

I think it's dead.

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From cliffmonk at gmail.com  Sat Jan 24 04:29:53 2009
From: cliffmonk at gmail.com (Cliff Livingston)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 00:29:53 -0900
Subject: [kj] KJ keyboards
In-Reply-To: <21863038.1232741594146.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <21863038.1232741594146.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <13071bf00901240129o39a78a10tfe4b563a963fb597@mail.gmail.com>

yeah reza has been playing with KJ for a few years now.

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

>  Reza was certainly on the keybs in NYC.
>
> Alex in NYC
>
>
>   -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Harper
> Sent: Jan 23, 2009 2:38 PM
> To: Gathering
> Subject: [kj] KJ keyboards
>
>   The quiz has prompted me to ask a question I meant to ask a while back.:
> Who played keyboards on the last tour? Was it Reza? I keep thinking of Nick
> Waller, but I'm sure that he 'left' a while back.
>
> Jim.
>
> NOW AVAILABLE: Flowers From Hell: The Modern Japanese Horror Film, by Jim
> Harper (Noir Publishing).
>
> "Fascinating overview of the Japanese horror boom... Comprehensive,
> in-depth and slickly presented."- DVD Monthly.
>
> Available from Noir Publishing, Amazon.co.uk <http://amazon.co.uk/>,
> Waterstones and all good bookstores.
>
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From bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com  Sat Jan 24 08:59:19 2009
From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com (bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 14:59:19 +0100
Subject: [kj] Smash hits quiz
In-Reply-To: <BLU117-W50AE6F33E96D27D8A239EA9DCF0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU117-W50AE6F33E96D27D8A239EA9DCF0@phx.gbl>
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Okay, let's go:

> 2 What band did Youth help form after he left kj?

The Orb, i figure

> 3A Name Raven's first band?

Neon Hearts

> 4 Which reggae artist is Youth named after?

Big Youth

> 5 Which 2 prong albums did Raven play on?

Cleansing, Rude Awakening

> 6 Jaz collaborated with Anne Dudley for "Songs From the Victorious City".
> Which band did she formerly play with?

Yes, ABC, The Art Of Noise

> 7 What sex pistols song did KJ cover?

Bodies

> 9 what position was Jaz given by the EU, in 2002?

Composer In Residence, but it was in 2006, not 2002

> 10A How many passports does Jaz have?

Four, according to Wiki

> 10B Which countries?

UK and New Zealand for sure, Czech republic possibly, no clue to the fourth

> 11 As well as Jaz, name 2 more people who have played keyboards for the
> band.

John Bechdel, Reza Udhin, Nick Walker

From jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk  Sat Jan 24 09:04:36 2009
From: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk (Jim Harper)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 14:04:36 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] Smash hits quiz
In-Reply-To: <d4b79f970901240559s3e3ce25fh4449e1f9a1c6b2d9@mail.gmail.com>
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Brilliant. When were the 2B4s around?

--- On Sat, 24/1/09, bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com <bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com> wrote:

> 2 What band did Youth help form after he left kj?

The Orb, i figure




      
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From bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com  Sat Jan 24 09:10:41 2009
From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com (bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:10:41 +0100
Subject: [kj] Smash hits quiz
In-Reply-To: <272981.94757.qm@web25908.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
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On 1/24/09, Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Brilliant. When were the 2B4s around?

Noone said it had to be the first he helped form, just after he left
Kiling Joke, and The Orb was after Killing Joke :)

Inbetween there was that short lived project with Ben Watkins, later
of Juno Reactor, but i doubt Youth had anything to do with them.


b

From planetary at socal.rr.com  Sat Jan 24 11:34:26 2009
From: planetary at socal.rr.com (The Mighty TB)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 08:34:26 -0800
Subject: [kj] Test - Ignore
In-Reply-To: <608142.37644.qm@web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
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Just testing my changed addy......

From soundmagick at gmail.com  Sat Jan 24 16:17:22 2009
From: soundmagick at gmail.com (damon cook)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:17:22 -0500
Subject: [kj] I'm still ALIVE-RAVEN is with us all!(manifesto alert!)
In-Reply-To: <c983a7de0901241311v739f25a2r6fa6f68ab6b8dd3d@mail.gmail.com>
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: damon cook <soundmagick at gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 4:11 PM
Subject: I'm still ALIVE-RAVEN is with us all!(manifesto alert!)
To: gathering-request at misera.net


Dear Gatherers,
First of all,let it be known that the process of sitting down and attempting
to explain with language what has occured to me in my reality to all of you
is an event I have looked forward to forward to for quite some time and also
something that causes a certain level of the old stress and anxiety to rise
up in me spine.
"Language is a virus from outer space" is a quote that keeps swimming around
me head... Communication is vital to me however and the struggle must go on.
Evidently the day has finally arrived that I am back in the virtual
world,safely ensconced in my new sanctuary stronghold living space for the
first time in all of my life and I must tell you RIGHT NOW,Gatherers, that
Raven,yes-the eternal bridge between life and death,darkness and
shadow-RAVEN!- the man whose friendship gave me the courage to stand up for
myself again and face the struggle...
I have a sneaking suspicion you lot know of whom I type...
duh motherfucking duh
this is the part where language fails me
let's try verse

the inquisitions against the witches
turned into a war against the "mentally ill"
in 2004-5 i spent 6 months as a ward of the state
then shipped to the countryside
a compound for the mentally ill
2 years later i got a tattoo
for me and my daughters
green,pink and yellow
my holy trinity pyramid
squibah was there
raven came
3 strikes and i was out
evicted to the streets
onwards and upwards
to the west coast i go!
raven's on the phone again
toilet paper delivery!
in a polka dotted bug!
the salvia divinorum brought the hendrix
purple haze in me brain
got my band online
uh-oh!
alien vs predator
scary scary!
the lawnmower lawyer
was looking minnesota
and feeling california
locked my black raven ass up
in the invisible solitary cell
me and blade and raven  and sasquatch
and bush in the space needle
selling his blood to tourists...
we did away with him
10-4 good buddy
over and out
THE INQUISITORS CALLED THE SECRET SERVICE
uphill from there
insanity trial
escort to the airport

ffwd

our band APOTH?OSIZOR's first live show
halloween 2007
squibah's headed east
WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENED NEXT
FUNERAL FOR OUR FRIEND
our band played a show in the afterlife

...and so it went with the rest of 2007 folks...I i was thrown in the psych
ward 11 times in 2007 for my stress related outbursts...Living my life tied
to my laptop devising memorials to raven and staring up at the RIOTSTAR2012
nightly and bawling--the waves of tears kept coming. I couldn't find comfort
anywhere since i had no proper place to live during this whole time.

on jan 1st 2008 I became officially homeless in the shelters for a short
time till my father let me live on his back porch for a month and then i
moved up to d.c. and quickly was thrown into solitary confinement for 21
days in a little black dress for "defacing a monument" aka breaking a window
to my roomates condo to use the facilities when i was locked out...

squibah flew east on her black wings on st.patricks day and bailed me out in
time for the spring solstice but on her departure i had a seizure inside an
ambulance...---lost my wallet on easter blah blah blah surrounded by cops
the dae before my bday another trip to the psych ward

MY APOLOGIES GATHERERS FOR RAMBLING ON ABOUT MY PERSONAL STRUGGLES--I JUST
HAD TO GET IT OUT TO PEOPLE THAT ARE RELEVANT

THE POINT IS IS THAT MY STRUGGLES ALL ENDED THIS PAST AUGUST IN THE MOST
EXTRAVAGANTLY MIND BLOWING FASHION...

i was homeless again...couch surfing---lost in a sea of unseen forces and
chaotic ritualism---i was living for the upcoming killing joke gigs--had a
ticket with squibah and a guest to the l.a. show(and thank you gatherers for
the pep talk at the 5 month countdown till october!)

i was stuck at a streetcorner arranging the detritus from the previous pizza
party me and my friend had partaken of in my own chaotic sacred geometric
way and all of a sudden 2 fire trucks pulled up and terrified me and I took
off running---ran blocks and blocks until i was face to face with more fire
trucks--all I remember is seeing the little "tm" on the license plates and
realizing terence mckenna was with me and everything would be ok...

next thing I know my mind is filled with this vast,epic vision involving the
key powerful players of my life on a mission to save me...

i woke up naked and alone in a cell.

the vision went on.

The Gates of The Clan of Raven were opened for me and I was given
Protection.

Black birds everywhere...

I woke up again in a chair with a guard so sore i was unable to move.

My parents walked in.

My mom handed me a photo of my daughters she had just taken. They left.

The guards rushed me back into the paddywagon and back into jail.

I thought i had been drugged.

A week later my dad came and said had suffered a heart attack.

another week and my day in court came up--they wanted to give me 6 months
for disorderly conduct.
THE INQUISITIONS TURNED INTO A WAR AGAINST THE "MENTALLY ILL"

I got out and was sent to this medical respite place for ther homeless for 2
and 1/2 months in the hood.
squibah kept me company there as usual but i was stuck wondering wtf had
happened.
time came up at the homeless place and my dad welcomed me back into his
place.
CHANGE IS GOOD!
found a loft apt.downtown near the poe museum for 575$ everything included
signed a new lease on life
my first ever!
things are like never before

LIVE FOR PEACE

FIGHT CONTROL

I AM SOUNDMAGICK.

soundmagick is the form of witchcraft i practice.

i am sorry for the vast array of unneccesary words i have typed with my
fingers into the textbox,gatherers.

KILLING JOKE remains at the forefront of my life as far as audio goes.

KILLING JOKE ARE A RELIGION!!!!

and what has happened to me personally in my life with raven is something
that is so comforting to me and powerful and reaffirming in such a way that
my life has been forever changed through the impact that paul left on me and
the ensuing transformation that took place when he left this world and
transformed into a force in my life far beyond that of a mere mortal.

yeah,i'm weird-i know--i've been separated from society ever since i first
spoke up on leap day of 1988.

enough of this silliness-everyone knows i'm illiterate i think(or am i just
being paranoid?)

GOOD DAYS TO YOU ALL,FELLOW GATHERERS

13 MINUTES TILL 4:20

WHO'S GOT THE MAOI WOWEE?

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From folk.devil at hotmail.com  Sat Jan 24 18:31:01 2009
From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:31:01 -0800
Subject: [kj] Smash hits quiz
In-Reply-To: <d4b79f970901240559s3e3ce25fh4449e1f9a1c6b2d9@mail.gmail.com>
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well done, sir!
#1 and #8 missed? they would be 'the rage' and 'paul ferguson', respectively..

Alex P was already acquainted with the joke. I believe the orb came out of the original KLF. I was seeking 'brilliant'.

i stand corrected (said the man in orthopaedic boots) on # 9 :)
the forth passport is swiss...

> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 14:59:19 +0100
> From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] Smash hits quiz
> 
> Okay, let's go:
> 
> > 2 What band did Youth help form after he left kj?
> 
> The Orb, i figure
> 
> > 3A Name Raven's first band?
> 
> Neon Hearts
> 
> > 4 Which reggae artist is Youth named after?
> 
> Big Youth
> 
> > 5 Which 2 prong albums did Raven play on?
> 
> Cleansing, Rude Awakening
> 
> > 6 Jaz collaborated with Anne Dudley for "Songs From the Victorious City".
> > Which band did she formerly play with?
> 
> Yes, ABC, The Art Of Noise
> 
> > 7 What sex pistols song did KJ cover?
> 
> Bodies
> 
> > 9 what position was Jaz given by the EU, in 2002?
> 
> Composer In Residence, but it was in 2006, not 2002
> 
> > 10A How many passports does Jaz have?
> 
> Four, according to Wiki
> 
> > 10B Which countries?
> 
> UK and New Zealand for sure, Czech republic possibly, no clue to the fourth
> 
> > 11 As well as Jaz, name 2 more people who have played keyboards for the
> > band.
> 
> John Bechdel, Reza Udhin, Nick Walker
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From folk.devil at hotmail.com  Sat Jan 24 18:31:58 2009
From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:31:58 -0800
Subject: [kj] Smash hits quiz
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fourth :/

From: folk.devil at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:31:01 -0800
Subject: Re: [kj] Smash hits quiz








well done, sir!
#1 and #8 missed? they would be 'the rage' and 'paul ferguson', respectively..

Alex P was already acquainted with the joke. I believe the orb came out of the original KLF. I was seeking 'brilliant'.

i stand corrected (said the man in orthopaedic boots) on # 9 :)
the forth passport is swiss...



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From bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com  Sat Jan 24 18:53:53 2009
From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com (bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:53:53 +0100
Subject: [kj] Smash hits quiz
In-Reply-To: <BLU117-W272765C98654F8D49FFF9C9DCC0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU117-W50AE6F33E96D27D8A239EA9DCF0@phx.gbl>
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On 1/25/09, folk devil <folk.devil at hotmail.com> wrote:

> #1 and #8 missed? they would be 'the rage' and 'paul ferguson', respectively..

I skipped a couple because i couldn't be arsed to Wiki (i.e. cheat)
too much, except for the passport thing.

> Alex P was already acquainted with the joke. I believe the orb came out of
> the original KLF. I was seeking 'brilliant'.

>From what i know, Youth and LX are childhood friends, and it is a fact
that Youth produced the first Orb (which does involve Jimmy Cauty from
KLF, yes, and amusingly enough also Anne Dudley and JJ Jeczalik from
The Art Of Noise). I looked it up because i have the Youth / Ben
Watkins record and wanted to double check if Youth was actually
involved in Juno Reactor, but it seems he wasn't.


Now, for a REAL quiz:

Who was Paul Raven's brother in law, what band was he in, what band
did he form later and what did he die of?


b

From dpeace at bigfoot.com  Sat Jan 24 19:55:29 2009
From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:55:29 -0000
Subject: [kj] Smash hits quiz
In-Reply-To: <d4b79f970901241553t28b75e53pcfade1c00dd16348@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU117-W50AE6F33E96D27D8A239EA9DCF0@phx.gbl>	<d4b79f970901240559s3e3ce25fh4449e1f9a1c6b2d9@mail.gmail.com>	<BLU117-W272765C98654F8D49FFF9C9DCC0@phx.gbl>
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I'd have to root through some boxes, but I could have sworn I have 2
different Youth / Ben Watkins LPs. One of which, IIRC, has a photo in the
gatefold that looks suspiciously like there is a pair of hirsute buttocks in
the foreground (which, given the flapping Youth genitalia in that Word
magazine photo, seems to indicate a trend of pelvic nudity). That's the
Empty Quarter one, I think.

Darren
Hungerford, UK 

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com
Sent: 24 January 2009 23:54
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Smash hits quiz

>From what i know, Youth and LX are childhood friends, and it is a fact
that Youth produced the first Orb (which does involve Jimmy Cauty from
KLF, yes, and amusingly enough also Anne Dudley and JJ Jeczalik from
The Art Of Noise). I looked it up because i have the Youth / Ben
Watkins record and wanted to double check if Youth was actually
involved in Juno Reactor, but it seems he wasn't.


From bettedillinger at live.com  Sat Jan 24 20:24:06 2009
From: bettedillinger at live.com (Bette Dillinger)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:24:06 -0500
Subject: [kj] Cover Song
In-Reply-To: <d4b79f970901240559s3e3ce25fh4449e1f9a1c6b2d9@mail.gmail.com>
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Hey everyone,
Can someone help me out and tell me if indeed there is an official release or a relatively well known bootleg
version of the Joke's cover of "Bodies"?  I know, everybody here can probably say it is 15.43 seconds
into whatever album, but I have no clue.  Shit, I thought I was pretty good when it came
my knowledge about 'em.  
 
Bette
 
 
 
 
 
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From dpeace at bigfoot.com  Sun Jan 25 04:23:11 2009
From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:23:11 -0000
Subject: [kj] Cover Song
In-Reply-To: <BLU148-W190A0B6EDEFE8AAAD7D8B3BBCD0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU117-W50AE6F33E96D27D8A239EA9DCF0@phx.gbl>	<d4b79f970901240559s3e3ce25fh4449e1f9a1c6b2d9@mail.gmail.com>
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http://www.amazon.com/Bodies/dp/B001H4PEKY/ref=sr_1_17?ie=UTF8
<http://www.amazon.com/Bodies/dp/B001H4PEKY/ref=sr_1_17?ie=UTF8&s=dmusic&qid
=1232875148&sr=8-17> &s=dmusic&qid=1232875148&sr=8-17

 

http://www.plastichead.com/catalogue.asp?ex=fitem
<http://www.plastichead.com/catalogue.asp?ex=fitem&verb=F&target=EWT0036CD>
&verb=F&target=EWT0036CD

 

(if you're prepared to run the risk of getting Courtauld Talk instead)

 

Darren

Hungerford, UK

 

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Bette Dillinger
Sent: 25 January 2009 01:24
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Cover Song

 

Hey everyone,
Can someone help me out and tell me if indeed there is an official release
or a relatively well known bootleg
version of the Joke's cover of "Bodies"?  I know, everybody here can
probably say it is 15.43 seconds
into whatever album, but I have no clue.  Shit, I thought I was pretty good
when it came
my knowledge about 'em.  
 
Bette
 
 
 
 
 

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From liszyleclercq at hotmail.com  Sun Jan 25 10:34:25 2009
From: liszyleclercq at hotmail.com (liszy le clercq)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:34:25 +0100
Subject: [kj] Let's all...make KJ a birthday present! 30th anniversary 26th
 (?) of February 2009
Message-ID: <COL109-W31D290440FE720329C33DB9CD0@phx.gbl>


Let's all...........make a birthday present! To all gatherers who would like to contribute!I would have asked you all earlier, but due to personal circumstances I couldn't finish my e-mail: are you receiving?/the awakening part II. I am okay now, but I have had a roller coaster ride the last couple of months.  I personally feel, we gatherers of this board must celebrate the upcoming 30th anniversary of Killing Joke and try and give something back! Let's all make our own book! We only have one month to gather, gather, gather all our good stories of KJ gratitude. The pressure of a deadline is good for writing, I think. And it might get people to respond quicker to this e-mail. I have opened a separate account for it. Please send whatever you would like to share (be respectable P.W.'s!) as your part of the KJ gratitude book to: killingjoke at live.nl I'm hoping you will all like this idea and join in.  Maybe we could ask admin (?) to hand over a printed copy of our writing skills on the actual anniversary date (26-2-2009?). I think I have totally written my story in earlier e-mails and if you feel you've got some good writing in your archives, please send it to killingjoke at live.nl I will do my best to combine it all in a printed readable version.
Depending on how many stories are send in, we could even share our book on the board when finished. 
 
The wait...
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From rkpettiford at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 25 15:23:01 2009
From: rkpettiford at yahoo.com (Kevin Richard)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:23:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 64, Issue 35
In-Reply-To: <mailman.13.1232899233.49131.gathering@misera.net>
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Go to Youtube type in global warming hoax planned in 1961-what do you think



      
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From bbarathy at btinternet.com  Sun Jan 25 16:12:27 2009
From: bbarathy at btinternet.com (Bob Barathy)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:12:27 -0000
Subject: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 64, Issue 35
In-Reply-To: <16837.32913.qm@web59806.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <LDEIJONOCOIOOPJOEADEAEGCCMAA.bbarathy@btinternet.com>

Interesting stuff. I am always very sceptical about all the warming hype. I
like to remind people that the hole in the Ozone layer over Antarctic is
shrinking.

boBToo
www.killingjoke.co.uk
www.teamkinetic.co.uk
www.bobtoo.co.uk
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  From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
Behalf Of Kevin Richard
  Sent: 25 January 2009 20:23
  To: gathering at misera.net
  Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 64, Issue 35


        Go to Youtube type in global warming hoax planned in 1961-what do
you think



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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Sun Jan 25 16:14:46 2009
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:14:46 +1100
Subject: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 64, Issue 35
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Message-ID: <4584BF23C48C4C24BE2F42F75B0FCD35@Soundgardener>

Part of that was from The Great Global Warming Swindle, which in my eyes has
been discredited, so doesn't give me much faith in the rest of it. And "The
Rich Men?" I expect more than that from Scooby Do.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle

 

  _____  

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Kevin Richard
Sent: Monday, 26 January 2009 07:23
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 64, Issue 35

 


Go to Youtube type in global warming hoax planned in 1961-what do you think

 

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From folk.devil at hotmail.com  Sun Jan 25 16:39:32 2009
From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:39:32 -0800
Subject: [kj] Smash hits quiz
In-Reply-To: <d4b79f970901241553t28b75e53pcfade1c00dd16348@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU117-W50AE6F33E96D27D8A239EA9DCF0@phx.gbl>
	<d4b79f970901240559s3e3ce25fh4449e1f9a1c6b2d9@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU117-W272765C98654F8D49FFF9C9DCC0@phx.gbl> 
	<d4b79f970901241553t28b75e53pcfade1c00dd16348@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU117-W3072BB3741458F52A739889DCD0@phx.gbl>


Interesting: :D
"Jim Macfarlane 

(Paul's brother-in-law)

"When I think of Raven I think about his passion for music and his
great sense of humor. I have always been a shuck and jive jokester and
Paul was one of the few that could hold his own and loved taking me on
and making cracks of his own. Some of the stuff he came up with was
just hilarious!! Paul knew how much I love The Scorpions and ZZ Top. He
seemed to love poking a stick at me on how I thought stuff was cool
that was everyday for him. He texted me from Vegas one night and said
he was drinking with Herman Rarebell (ex-Scorpions drummer) just to rub
my face in it and tease me. Paul called me from Texas one night to tell
me that Billy Gibbons was going to hit the stage with Ministry on one
of the opening nights of the Rio Grande Blood album tour and play 'Just
got Paid' as a cover. Paul thought Billy Gibbons was it! For some
reason Billy didn't end up playing and Paul was bummed about that. ZZ
Top was recently here in the NorthWest on tour. Paul and I talked about
going and Paul pointed out the added incentive that it we didn't go, we
were going to have to go to a 'fucking wine tasting party' with my
sisters (HA HA!). Paul kept texting me to find some tickets and that if
I failed we were 'both going to pay with the wine party'. I found two
awesome tickets front and center and we went. Paul had a blast! He kept
telling me this and that and little tid-bits of what he knew about the
band. He took a ton of pix on his cell and he acted like a little kid
the way he was idolizing Billy Gibbons. At one point he went out to
grab us some beers and when he came back he had one of his famous
twinkles in his eyes and he had me hold the beers and he pulled two ZZ
Top shotglasses out of his pocket and he said, 'How fucking cool are
these!?...ZZ Top shotglasses!!' What a great night that was and I'm so
glad to have those memories. I still can't believe he is gone. Paul's
impact on my family and my sisters was immense. Paul and I never ever
had one bad issue or one bad word between us. He was a true bro and I
miss him!"
http://www.thirteenthplanet.com/raven/remember.htm

P.S. the Cousin is Steve Heart, from the Suburban Studs. :)

> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:53:53 +0100
> From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] Smash hits quiz
was actually
> involved in Juno Reactor, but it seems he wasn't.
> 
> 
> Now, for a REAL quiz:
> 
> Who was Paul Raven's brother in law, what band was he in, what band
> did he form later and what did he die of?
> 
> 
> b
> _______________________________________________
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> Gathering at misera.net
> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering

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From pmdavies at gmail.com  Sun Jan 25 16:42:48 2009
From: pmdavies at gmail.com (iPat)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:42:48 +0000
Subject: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 64, Issue 35
In-Reply-To: <4584BF23C48C4C24BE2F42F75B0FCD35@Soundgardener>
References: <mailman.13.1232899233.49131.gathering@misera.net>
	<16837.32913.qm@web59806.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
	<4584BF23C48C4C24BE2F42F75B0FCD35@Soundgardener>
Message-ID: <1646350c0901251342h3f851128j9aa68e0eaa64dec1@mail.gmail.com>

Ras al-Khaimah has 8" inches of snow! That's in the UAE.
http://www.physorg.com/news152103925.html

sometimes we need to simply observe what is happening, rather than try
and fit explanations to suit our prejudices or beliefs. Whilst others
may use it to justify their prejudices/beliefs it may appear to be
conspiratorial, however it doesn't change the truth that there is
climate change.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/jan/25/melting-arctic-north-pole-explorers


On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:
> Part of that was from The Great Global Warming Swindle, which in my eyes has
> been discredited, so doesn't give me much faith in the rest of it. And "The
> Rich Men?" I expect more than that from Scooby Do?
>
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle
>
>

From folk.devil at hotmail.com  Sun Jan 25 16:45:29 2009
From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:45:29 -0800
Subject: [kj] Smash hits quiz
In-Reply-To: <BLU117-W3072BB3741458F52A739889DCD0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU117-W50AE6F33E96D27D8A239EA9DCF0@phx.gbl>
	<d4b79f970901240559s3e3ce25fh4449e1f9a1c6b2d9@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU117-W272765C98654F8D49FFF9C9DCC0@phx.gbl> 
	<d4b79f970901241553t28b75e53pcfade1c00dd16348@mail.gmail.com> 
	<BLU117-W3072BB3741458F52A739889DCD0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU117-W3522D73F43946EF32F325A9DCD0@phx.gbl>


i think i'm off mark though? First I've ever heard this name :/

From: folk.devil at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:39:32 -0800
Subject: Re: [kj] Smash hits quiz








Interesting: :D
"Jim Macfarlane 

(Paul's brother-in-law)

"When I think of Raven I think about his passion for music and his
great sense of humor. I have always been a shuck and jive jokester and
Paul was one of the few that could hold his own and loved taking me on
and making cracks of his own. Some of the stuff he came up with was
just hilarious!! Paul knew how much I love The Scorpions and ZZ Top. He
seemed to love poking a stick at me on how I thought stuff was cool
that was everyday for him. He texted me from Vegas one night and said
he was drinking with Herman Rarebell (ex-Scorpions drummer) just to rub
my face in it and tease me. Paul called me from Texas one night to tell
me that Billy Gibbons was going to hit the stage with Ministry on one
of the opening nights of the Rio Grande Blood album tour and play 'Just
got Paid' as a cover. Paul thought Billy Gibbons was it! For some
reason Billy didn't end up playing and Paul was bummed about that. ZZ
Top was recently here in the NorthWest on tour. Paul and I talked about
going and Paul pointed out the added incentive that it we didn't go, we
were going to have to go to a 'fucking wine tasting party' with my
sisters (HA HA!). Paul kept texting me to find some tickets and that if
I failed we were 'both going to pay with the wine party'. I found two
awesome tickets front and center and we went. Paul had a blast! He kept
telling me this and that and little tid-bits of what he knew about the
band. He took a ton of pix on his cell and he acted like a little kid
the way he was idolizing Billy Gibbons. At one point he went out to
grab us some beers and when he came back he had one of his famous
twinkles in his eyes and he had me hold the beers and he pulled two ZZ
Top shotglasses out of his pocket and he said, 'How fucking cool are
these!?...ZZ Top shotglasses!!' What a great night that was and I'm so
glad to have those memories. I still can't believe he is gone. Paul's
impact on my family and my sisters was immense. Paul and I never ever
had one bad issue or one bad word between us. He was a true bro and I
miss him!"
http://www.thirteenthplanet.com/raven/remember.htm

P.S. the Cousin is Steve Heart, from the Suburban Studs. :)

> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:53:53 +0100
> From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] Smash hits quiz
was actually
> involved in Juno Reactor, but it seems he wasn't.
> 
> 
> Now, for a REAL quiz:
> 
> Who was Paul Raven's brother in law, what band was he in, what band
> did he form later and what did he die of?
> 
> 
> b
> _______________________________________________
> Gathering mailing list
> Gathering at misera.net
> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering

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From bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com  Sun Jan 25 16:50:01 2009
From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com (bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:50:01 +0100
Subject: [kj] Smash hits quiz
In-Reply-To: <BLU117-W3072BB3741458F52A739889DCD0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU117-W50AE6F33E96D27D8A239EA9DCF0@phx.gbl>
	<d4b79f970901240559s3e3ce25fh4449e1f9a1c6b2d9@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU117-W272765C98654F8D49FFF9C9DCC0@phx.gbl>
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On 1/25/09, folk devil <folk.devil at hotmail.com> wrote:

> "Jim Macfarlane
> (Paul's brother-in-law)

Raven once told me that Gus Chambers was his brother in law, so i take
it as valid information. The two of them had a project with Jed Simon
of Strapping Young Lad, but nothing ever came out of it.

Gus was originally the singer of The Squad, but his "claim to fame"
was probably being the singer of the metal band Grip Inc alongside
Dave Lombardo (Slayer) and Waldemar Sorychta (Despair), who already
knew eachother from the Voodoocult days. He killed himself last year
and to this day noone know why.


b

From lennonka at gmail.com  Mon Jan 26 03:29:40 2009
From: lennonka at gmail.com (Lennonka)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:29:40 +0100
Subject: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 64, Issue 35
In-Reply-To: <1646350c0901251342h3f851128j9aa68e0eaa64dec1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.13.1232899233.49131.gathering@misera.net>
	<16837.32913.qm@web59806.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
	<4584BF23C48C4C24BE2F42F75B0FCD35@Soundgardener>
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Message-ID: <101ab85f0901260029y630cdbb2x34c05684c677ae10@mail.gmail.com>

Aaah, those ski slopes cost lots of money.
(sarcasm)

On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 10:42 PM, iPat <pmdavies at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ras al-Khaimah has 8" inches of snow! That's in the UAE.
> http://www.physorg.com/news152103925.html
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From danny_stamper at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 26 07:49:06 2009
From: danny_stamper at yahoo.com (Danny Stamper)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:49:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] Public Image
Message-ID: <711779.2160.qm@web45411.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

A while back, someone on the Gathering posted a link to a blogsite with several rare live cds for download.? Could they please re-post that link?

Danny


      
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From bawhitehead at gmail.com  Mon Jan 26 08:19:02 2009
From: bawhitehead at gmail.com (Brian Whitehead)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:19:02 +0000
Subject: [kj] Lots O' Live P.I.L.......
In-Reply-To: <5AD3143C248D1646A097487465F7702390D3F8@fountain6344ex2.corp.ad>
References: <5AD3143C248D1646A097487465F7702390D3F8@fountain6344ex2.corp.ad>
Message-ID: <7454a99b0901260519g3e4f775rc7b1015b85bccb5d@mail.gmail.com>

Is this it...

2008/11/17 Bill Meissner <BMeissner at encorehollywood.com>

>            A new blog I stumbled onto a few days ago?..Just put up a bunch
> of P.I.L. Live shows  (MP3 I would assume..) Even the wonderful American
> Bandstand recordings!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> http://baratomusical.blogspot.com/search/label/Public%20Image%20Ltd
>
>
>
>
>
>                                  Enjoy ? Billy Goat
>
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From dpeace at bigfoot.com  Mon Jan 26 09:07:17 2009
From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:07:17 -0000
Subject: [kj] Public Image
In-Reply-To: <711779.2160.qm@web45411.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <711779.2160.qm@web45411.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <01bd01c97fbf$6841e5c0$38c5b140$@com>

http://baratomusical.blogspot.com/search/label/Public%20Image%20Ltd

 

Darren

Hungerford, UK

 

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Danny Stamper
Sent: 26 January 2009 12:49
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] Public Image

 

A while back, someone on the Gathering posted a link to a blogsite with
several rare live cds for download.  Could they please re-post that link?

 

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From Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk  Mon Jan 26 10:38:21 2009
From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk (Janean Lancaster)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:38:21 -0000
Subject: [kj] OT: Magazine Tickets
Message-ID: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DA55@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal>

I've got 2 tickets for Magazine, Sat 14th Feb, Manchester Academy going spare.

 

Face value ?23 each plus postage.  

 

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From dpeace at bigfoot.com  Mon Jan 26 18:11:45 2009
From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:11:45 -0000
Subject: [kj] OT: Magazine Tickets
In-Reply-To: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DA55@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal>
References: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DA55@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal>
Message-ID: <020001c9800b$75842580$608c7080$@com>

Were it not for Valentine?s Day & wife?s birthday, I?d have them like a shot
(well, actually, I?d have bought my own when they were released).

 

I?ll ask around. Ebay?

 

Darren

Hungerford, UK

 

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Janean Lancaster
Sent: 26 January 2009 15:38
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: [kj] OT: Magazine Tickets

 

I?ve got 2 tickets for Magazine, Sat 14th Feb, Manchester Academy going
spare.

 

Face value ?23 each plus postage.  

 

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From bettedillinger at live.com  Mon Jan 26 20:44:31 2009
From: bettedillinger at live.com (Bette Dillinger)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:44:31 -0500
Subject: [kj] Smash hits quiz
In-Reply-To: <d4b79f970901251350i56ad20cfs54aaada9693ddeea@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU117-W50AE6F33E96D27D8A239EA9DCF0@phx.gbl>
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Well, these things are sounding worthy of a book.  THAT would be the documentary I would love to see...the times of Paul Raven.  So who was the actual brother-in-law of Raven?> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:50:01 +0100> From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] Smash hits quiz> > On 1/25/09, folk devil <folk.devil at hotmail.com> wrote:> > > "Jim Macfarlane> > (Paul's brother-in-law)> > Raven once told me that Gus Chambers was his brother in law, so i take> it as valid information. The two of them had a project with Jed Simon> of Strapping Young Lad, but nothing ever came out of it.> > Gus was originally the singer of The Squad, but his "claim to fame"> was probably being the singer of the metal band Grip Inc alongside> Dave Lombardo (Slayer) and Waldemar Sorychta (Despair), who already> knew eachother from the Voodoocult days. He killed himself last year> and to this day noone know why.> > > b> _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk  Mon Jan 26 21:47:16 2009
From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk (jo)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 02:47:16 -0000
Subject: [kj] OT: Magazine Tickets
References: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DA55@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal>
Message-ID: <016b01c98029$90988960$0100000a@jo>

Me - pm me

  I've got 2 tickets for Magazine, Sat 14th Feb, Manchester Academy going spare.

   

  Face value ?23 each plus postage.  

   

  Anyone?



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From Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk  Tue Jan 27 04:49:28 2009
From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk (Janean Lancaster)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:49:28 -0000
Subject: [kj] OT: Magazine Tickets
Message-ID: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DA5B@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal>

That's exactly why I'm getting rid!  My "missus" said it was OK, her birthday's the day before so we're celebrating then.  Except when the tickets arrived in the post she forgot all knowledge about it and pulled her face!

 

Women.

 

I bought 2 more tickets for the added second night for me and my mate.  Tuesday the 17th was much more agreeable!

 

Anyway, looks like I've got a buyer...

 

Cheers,

Janean

 

________________________________

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace
Sent: 26 January 2009 23:12
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Magazine Tickets

 

Were it not for Valentine's Day & wife's birthday, I'd have them like a shot (well, actually, I'd have bought my own when they were released).

 

I'll ask around. Ebay?

 

Darren

Hungerford, UK

 

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Janean Lancaster
Sent: 26 January 2009 15:38
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: [kj] OT: Magazine Tickets

 

I've got 2 tickets for Magazine, Sat 14th Feb, Manchester Academy going spare.

 

Face value ?23 each plus postage.  

 

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From jane.shadforth at shell.com  Tue Jan 27 05:12:33 2009
From: jane.shadforth at shell.com (jane.shadforth at shell.com)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:12:33 +0100
Subject: [kj] OT: Magazine Tickets
In-Reply-To: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DA55@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal>
Message-ID: <31F32A0DB10C7E4FBE415287069AD4655111C8@amsdc1-s-03341.europe.shell.com>

Iain & I are going to the Tuesday show. I would have liked to have gone Saturday, but doing a race on the Sunday...
 
Janean - see you on Tuesday 17th...
 
Jane

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Janean Lancaster
Sent: 26 January 2009 15:38
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
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I've got 2 tickets for Magazine, Sat 14th Feb, Manchester Academy going spare.

 

Face value ?23 each plus postage.  

 

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From Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk  Tue Jan 27 05:32:31 2009
From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk (Janean Lancaster)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:32:31 -0000
Subject: [kj] OT: Magazine Tickets
Message-ID: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DA60@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal>

That's cool - say hello if you see me.  I'll be the short arse in the green parka.

 

Cheers,

Janean

 

________________________________

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of jane.shadforth at shell.com
Sent: 27 January 2009 10:13
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Magazine Tickets

 

Iain & I are going to the Tuesday show. I would have liked to have gone Saturday, but doing a race on the Sunday...

 

Janean - see you on Tuesday 17th...

 

Jane

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	From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Janean Lancaster
	Sent: 26 January 2009 15:38
	To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
	Subject: [kj] OT: Magazine Tickets

	I've got 2 tickets for Magazine, Sat 14th Feb, Manchester Academy going spare.

	 

	Face value ?23 each plus postage.  

	 

	Anyone?

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From jane.shadforth at shell.com  Tue Jan 27 05:33:33 2009
From: jane.shadforth at shell.com (jane.shadforth at shell.com)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:33:33 +0100
Subject: [kj] OT: Magazine Tickets
In-Reply-To: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DA60@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal>
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Will do - you should be able to spot my orange & black hair, and the noisy companion I'll probably leave at the bar so I can have a bop. Jane

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Janean Lancaster
Sent: 27 January 2009 10:33
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Magazine Tickets



That's cool - say hello if you see me.  I'll be the short arse in the green parka.

 

Cheers,

Janean

 


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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of jane.shadforth at shell.com
Sent: 27 January 2009 10:13
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Magazine Tickets

 

Iain & I are going to the Tuesday show. I would have liked to have gone Saturday, but doing a race on the Sunday...

 

Janean - see you on Tuesday 17th...

 

Jane

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Janean Lancaster
Sent: 26 January 2009 15:38
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: [kj] OT: Magazine Tickets

I've got 2 tickets for Magazine, Sat 14th Feb, Manchester Academy going spare.

 

Face value ?23 each plus postage.  

 

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From dpeace at bigfoot.com  Tue Jan 27 06:26:18 2009
From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:26:18 -0000
Subject: [kj] OT: Magazine Tickets
In-Reply-To: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DA5B@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal>
References: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DA5B@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal>
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What? Like In "Brazil"?

 

Am really fired up about the London date. Can't wait!

 

Darren

Hungerford, UK

 

From: Janean Lancaster [mailto:Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk] 
Sent: 27 January 2009 09:49
To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the
band!)
Subject: RE: [kj] OT: Magazine Tickets

 

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From bawhitehead at gmail.com  Tue Jan 27 06:34:13 2009
From: bawhitehead at gmail.com (Brian Whitehead)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:34:13 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT: Magazine Tickets
In-Reply-To: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DA55@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal>
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While we're at it I've now got a spare for Saturday as well.
Same deal.

Brian.

2009/1/26 Janean Lancaster <Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk>

>  I've got 2 tickets for Magazine, Sat 14th Feb, Manchester Academy going
> spare.
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From gingoblin at easynet.co.uk  Tue Jan 27 07:21:02 2009
From: gingoblin at easynet.co.uk (gingoblin at easynet.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:21:02 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT: Magazine Tickets
In-Reply-To: <7454a99b0901270334s5cc72643xca030d41b3127a83@mail.gmail.co
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References: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DA55@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal>
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Stick 'em on eBay... due to the Glasgow gig being announced, I ended up 
having to put 7 Manchester tickets up... they all went in a matter of 
hours. They were cost-price though, no profiteering involved!   It's the 
two London and Glasgow gigs for me. Was told Glasgow tickets were selling 
VERY slowly... bizarre when the others sold out so fast.   Still, gonna be 
great!

dave in edinburgh


At 11:34 27/01/2009 +0000, you wrote:
>While we're at it I've now got a spare for Saturday as well.
>Same deal.
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>>I've got 2 tickets for Magazine, Sat 14th Feb, Manchester Academy going 
>>spare.
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>>Face value ?23 each plus postage.
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From jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk  Tue Jan 27 08:16:22 2009
From: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk (Jim Harper)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:16:22 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine tracks...
Message-ID: <971555.85582.qm@web25903.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

Hello!
?
Prompted by the recent mentions of Magazine I thought I'd do my usual begging routine and ask if anyone has guitar tabs for 'The Light Pours Out Of Me'? There's some available on the internet but it sounds way off. I know it's only about three riffs, but I'm useless at working things out by ear... ;) Anyone help?
?
Jim.

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From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk  Tue Jan 27 09:16:41 2009
From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:16:41 -0000
Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine tracks...
Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072366@mr-pants.the-lab.local>

If I can be arsed I'll do it for you. I still owe someone some PiL tabs on here. I worked 'em out, but I find the writing it down bit tiresome! If no one else offers...

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Jim Harper
Sent: 27 January 2009 13:16
To: Gathering
Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine tracks...



Hello!
 
Prompted by the recent mentions of Magazine I thought I'd do my usual begging routine and ask if anyone has guitar tabs for 'The Light Pours Out Of Me'? There's some available on the internet but it sounds way off. I know it's only about three riffs, but I'm useless at working things out by ear... ;) Anyone help?
 
Jim.

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From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Tue Jan 27 09:37:10 2009
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:37:10 +0000
Subject: [kj] ot-back from new york/washington ect
Message-ID: <BLU120-W549DEE85256139E0ED8CB0B8CB0@phx.gbl>


hi all back from my travels  to new york-plus west coast of u.s.a,i know ny is west coast--so did i miss anything whilst away? any k.j gossip? any gossip about anything else lol? had a great time btw and still feel jetlagged--cheers ;)
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From folk.devil at hotmail.com  Tue Jan 27 11:54:18 2009
From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:54:18 -0800
Subject: [kj] ot-back from new york/washington ect
In-Reply-To: <BLU120-W549DEE85256139E0ED8CB0B8CB0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU120-W549DEE85256139E0ED8CB0B8CB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU117-W9B1CB6DFD43570218097B9DCB0@phx.gbl>


did you go to the 'inauguration'?

From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:37:10 +0000Subject: [kj] ot-back from new york/washington ect

hi all back from my travels  to new york-plus west coast of u.s.a,i know ny is west coast--so did i miss anything whilst away? any k.j gossip? any gossip about anything else lol? had a great time btw and still feel jetlagged--cheers ;)

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From jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk  Tue Jan 27 12:34:29 2009
From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk (jo)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:34:29 -0000
Subject: [kj] ot-back from new york/washington ect
References: <BLU120-W549DEE85256139E0ED8CB0B8CB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <007301c980a5$8753e030$0100000a@jo>

wb.
Did you have a good time?
We know that you really meant that you know that NY is East Coast.  Shows how jet-lagged you are:-))
Did you enjoy yourself?
How's your pregnancy - are you both well?




  hi all back from my travels  to new york-plus west coast of u.s.a,i know ny is west coast--so did i miss anything whilst away? any k.j gossip? any gossip about anything else lol? had a great time btw and still feel jetlagged--cheers ;)

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From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Tue Jan 27 13:57:48 2009
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:57:48 +0000
Subject: [kj] ot-back from new york/washington ect
In-Reply-To: <BLU117-W9B1CB6DFD43570218097B9DCB0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU120-W549DEE85256139E0ED8CB0B8CB0@phx.gbl>
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hi folky--missed you btw ;)     yes,  me, my dad(who is 86) my elder sister(who shares here birthday with jaz-26 feb) and  one of my cousins-who lives in manhatten we all went to the inauguration in washington--it was bloody cold but kinda worth it--we braved it 4 my dad he wanted to go the most to see or hear obama sworn in--there were so many people and i hate crowds lol ;D)))   thanks 4 asking ;) how are  you keeping?

From: folk.devil at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:54:18 -0800Subject: Re: [kj] ot-back from new york/washington ect

did you go to the 'inauguration'?

From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:37:10 +0000Subject: [kj] ot-back from new york/washington ect

hi all back from my travels  to new york-plus west coast of u.s.a,i know ny is west coast--so did i miss anything whilst away? any k.j gossip? any gossip about anything else lol? had a great time btw and still feel jetlagged--cheers ;)

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From karen.weil at sddt.com  Tue Jan 27 14:34:48 2009
From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:34:48 -0800
Subject: [kj] OT: Magazine Tickets
References: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DA5B@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal>
	<024701c98072$133ef550$39bcdff0$@com>
Message-ID: <912ECAE0FB404E6F8E9DA71DF897265E@edweil>

Ha! That's a great scene from that movie. One of my all-time favorites! 
Have fun at the gig, Darren. 

k.w.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Darren A. Peace 
  To: 'Janean Lancaster' ; dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk ; 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 3:26 AM
  Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Magazine Tickets


  What? Like In "Brazil"?

   

  Am really fired up about the London date. Can't wait!

   

  Darren

  Hungerford, UK

   

  From: Janean Lancaster [mailto:Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk] 
  Sent: 27 January 2009 09:49
  To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
  Subject: RE: [kj] OT: Magazine Tickets

   

  ... and pulled her face!



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From dpeace at bigfoot.com  Tue Jan 27 15:00:19 2009
From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:00:19 -0000
Subject: [kj] OT: Magazine Tickets
In-Reply-To: <912ECAE0FB404E6F8E9DA71DF897265E@edweil>
References: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DA5B@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal>
	<024701c98072$133ef550$39bcdff0$@com>
	<912ECAE0FB404E6F8E9DA71DF897265E@edweil>
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Mine too! For anyone who cares and hasn't a clue what we're talking about:

 

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDReviews24/a%20terry%20gilliam%20brazil%20cr
iterion/a%20brazil%20criterion%20single%20720%20BRAZIL-4.jpg

 

And if anyone else here will be at the London Magazine date, I'll be the one
frothing at the front!

 

Darren

Hungerford, UK

 

From: Karen Weil [mailto:karen.weil at sddt.com] 
Sent: 27 January 2009 19:35
To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the
band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Magazine Tickets

 

Ha! That's a great scene from that movie. One of my all-time favorites! 

Have fun at the gig, Darren. 

 

k.w.

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From: Darren A. Peace <mailto:dpeace at bigfoot.com>  

To: 'Janean Lancaster' <mailto:Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk>  ;
dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk ; 'A list <mailto:gathering at misera.net>  about
all things Killing Joke (the band!)' 

Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 3:26 AM

Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Magazine Tickets

 

What? Like In "Brazil"?

 

Am really fired up about the London date. Can't wait!

 

Darren

Hungerford, UK

 

From: Janean Lancaster [mailto:Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk] 
Sent: 27 January 2009 09:49
To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the
band!)
Subject: RE: [kj] OT: Magazine Tickets

 

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From karen.weil at sddt.com  Tue Jan 27 15:01:55 2009
From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:01:55 -0800
Subject: [kj] ot-back from new york/washington ect
References: <BLU120-W549DEE85256139E0ED8CB0B8CB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <FF3434E1FC264C0AB996756D4F44DEF1@edweil>

Welcome back to the UK, Milinda. Hope you had a smashing time in the U.S. of A. KJ gossip? I wish -- but there *have* been trivia contests! What did you enjoy most about visiting Ameirca, BTW? 

Best,

k.w.
The States
  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  To: gathering at misera.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 6:37 AM
  Subject: [kj] ot-back from new york/washington ect


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From folk.devil at hotmail.com  Tue Jan 27 15:28:50 2009
From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:28:50 -0800
Subject: [kj] ot-back from new york/washington ect
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Really not sure I could have dealt with a crowd that large! Good experience I guess :D
 
P.S. Actions speak louder than hope ;)



From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:57:48 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] ot-back from new york/washington ect

hi folky--missed you btw ;)     yes,  me, my dad(who is 86) my elder sister(who shares here birthday with jaz-26 feb) and  one of my cousins-who lives in manhatten we all went to the inauguration in washington--it was bloody cold but kinda worth it--we braved it 4 my dad he wanted to go the most to see or hear obama sworn in--there were so many people and i hate crowds lol ;D)))   thanks 4 asking ;) how are  you keeping?



From: folk.devil at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:54:18 -0800Subject: Re: [kj] ot-back from new york/washington ect

did you go to the 'inauguration'?



From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:37:10 +0000Subject: [kj] ot-back from new york/washington ect

hi all back from my travels  to new york-plus west coast of u.s.a,i know ny is west coast--so did i miss anything whilst away? any k.j gossip? any gossip about anything else lol? had a great time btw and still feel jetlagged--cheers ;)



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From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Tue Jan 27 17:34:10 2009
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:34:10 +0000
Subject: [kj] ot-back from new york/washington ect
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hi karen,thanks for the welcome---well the best part was the inorguation(carnt spell that one lol) and the value for money everything was so cheap,all the people were so friendly,i just loved the snow in ny ;D and the fab ny accent--philly and new jersey,washington people were great as well and i liked the areas--of course i loved seeing my relatives many i have over there,over 30 cousins to start with to mention A FEW wow --also found out i hav welsh in my ancestry as well some blue eyed blond guy married one of my ancestor relatives way back he was a welsh man ;)--i want to return in the summer--cheers melinda  ps one of my relatives is also a reverant and he is really funky and with it lole

From: karen.weil at sddt.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:01:55 -0800Subject: Re: [kj] ot-back from new york/washington ect


Welcome back to the UK, Milinda. Hope you had a smashing time in the U.S. of A. KJ gossip? I wish -- but there *have* been trivia contests! What did you enjoy most about visiting Ameirca, BTW? 
 
Best,
 
k.w.
The States

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To: gathering at misera.net 
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 6:37 AM
Subject: [kj] ot-back from new york/washington ect
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From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Tue Jan 27 17:38:24 2009
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:38:24 +0000
Subject: [kj] ot-back from new york/washington ect
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well to tell you the truth folky,i was a bit afraid but there was no need to be  as--there were over 2 million people there but everyone was really well behaved,no one pushed,there was no trouble at all-it was ok--yeah lets hope that obama lives up to his speaches hay ;)  cheers melinda sp i did not find any k.j in any of the music stores i went into ;(

From: folk.devil at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:28:50 -0800Subject: Re: [kj] ot-back from new york/washington ect

Really not sure I could have dealt with a crowd that large! Good experience I guess :D P.S. Actions speak louder than hope ;)

From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:57:48 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] ot-back from new york/washington ect

hi folky--missed you btw ;)     yes,  me, my dad(who is 86) my elder sister(who shares here birthday with jaz-26 feb) and  one of my cousins-who lives in manhatten we all went to the inauguration in washington--it was bloody cold but kinda worth it--we braved it 4 my dad he wanted to go the most to see or hear obama sworn in--there were so many people and i hate crowds lol ;D)))   thanks 4 asking ;) how are  you keeping?

From: folk.devil at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:54:18 -0800Subject: Re: [kj] ot-back from new york/washington ect

did you go to the 'inauguration'?

From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:37:10 +0000Subject: [kj] ot-back from new york/washington ect

hi all back from my travels  to new york-plus west coast of u.s.a,i know ny is west coast--so did i miss anything whilst away? any k.j gossip? any gossip about anything else lol? had a great time btw and still feel jetlagged--cheers ;)

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From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk  Tue Jan 27 18:23:58 2009
From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:23:58 -0000
Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine tracks...
Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC07236A@mr-pants.the-lab.local>

Whilst doing the below, I had a thought - to me, these two start quite similarly:
 
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ybUqM8jf3mU  <http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ybUqM8jf3mU&feature=related> 
 
and
 
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FLY4v0Et8z0
 
...which probably only I find interesting. The second link always reminds me of KJ too.
 
Yawnfest over.  <mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk> 

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Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine tracks...



Hello!
 
Prompted by the recent mentions of Magazine I thought I'd do my usual begging routine and ask if anyone has guitar tabs for 'The Light Pours Out Of Me'? There's some available on the internet but it sounds way off. I know it's only about three riffs, but I'm useless at working things out by ear... ;) Anyone help?
 
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From folk.devil at hotmail.com  Tue Jan 27 19:20:40 2009
From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:20:40 -0800
Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine tracks...
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impeccable taste, sir :)

Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:23:58 +0000From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine tracks...
Whilst doing the below, I had a thought - to me, these two start quite similarly:
 
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ybUqM8jf3mU
 
and
 
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FLY4v0Et8z0
 
...which probably only I find interesting. The second link always reminds me of KJ too.
 
Yawnfest over.
 
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From folk.devil at hotmail.com  Tue Jan 27 21:07:34 2009
From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:07:34 -0800
Subject: [kj] OT: Magazine Tickets, Janean
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http://www.filmforum.org/archivedfilms/quad/quadanimsm2.gif

??

Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:32:31 +0000
From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Magazine Tickets

























That?s cool ? say hello if you
see me.  I?ll be the short arse in the green parka.

 

Cheers,

Janean

 





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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:27:26 -0800
Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine tracks...
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Did Magazine ever take off in the States?
Always liked their music, mainly the first 3, but I never really hear any Americans really talk of them :/

Actually, to get all Cheggers about it, they would be in me all time top 10...most days..

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From Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk  Wed Jan 28 05:41:15 2009
From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk (Janean Lancaster)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:41:15 -0000
Subject: [kj] OT: Magazine Tickets, Janean
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Love that film.  

 

Although I've got a Shih Tzu instead of a scooter...

 

http://www.biftas.co.uk/temp/Me_and_Ted.jpg

 

 

 

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On Behalf Of folk devil
Sent: 28 January 2009 02:08
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Magazine Tickets, Janean

 

http://www.filmforum.org/archivedfilms/quad/quadanimsm2.gif

??

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:32:31 +0000
From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Magazine Tickets

That's cool - say hello if you see me.  I'll be the short arse in the
green parka.

 

Cheers,

Janean

 

 

 

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From gasw30 at hotmail.com  Wed Jan 28 07:55:09 2009
From: gasw30 at hotmail.com (nicholas fitzpatrick)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:55:09 +0000
Subject: [kj] Jazz Coleman, what a bar stool
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"I'm Jazz, man - this is my bar," said the slightly drunk Englishman as we entered a tiny dive in semi-suburban Prague. So we got talking. Or, arguing fiercely more like, because for all that this Jazz fellow was pretty funny, he was also an obstreperous bastard, and we just couldn't take his claims seriously. "We're descended from aliens, who built the pyramids" was a key theme. "I moved to Iceland to escape the apocalypse." All this, put forth aggressively, followed by "I co-wrote the New Zealand national anthem, with Mauris." "Bollocks" we said. Bit of googling the next day and it turned out he wasn't lying. But also our man 'Jazz' had failed to tell us his most outstanding claim to fame, that he was in fact Jaz Coleman, frontman of the occasionally mind-blowing post-punk outfit Killing Joke.http://www.theskinny.co.uk/article/44629-holiday-snapshorts




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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Wed Jan 28 10:38:05 2009
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:38:05 +1100
Subject: [kj] Jazz Coleman, what a bar stool
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NZ National Anthem story.90 000 000 000 000 miles and counting.

 

Oh and what's Jaz doing slightly drunk?

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of nicholas fitzpatrick
Sent: Wednesday, 28 January 2009 23:55
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] Jazz Coleman, what a bar stool

 

 

"I'm Jazz, man - this is my bar," said the slightly drunk Englishman as we
entered a tiny dive in semi-suburban Prague. So we got talking. Or, arguing
fiercely more like, because for all that this Jazz fellow was pretty funny,
he was also an obstreperous bastard, and we just couldn't take his claims
seriously. "We're descended from aliens, who built the pyramids" was a key
theme. "I moved to Iceland to escape the apocalypse." All this, put forth
aggressively, followed by "I co-wrote the New Zealand national anthem, with
Mauris." "Bollocks" we said. Bit of googling the next day and it turned out
he wasn't lying. But also our man 'Jazz' had failed to tell us his most
outstanding claim to fame, that he was in fact Jaz Coleman, frontman of the
occasionally mind-blowing post-punk outfit Killing Joke.

 

 

http://www.theskinny.co.uk/article/44629-holiday-snapshorts

 





 

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From folk.devil at hotmail.com  Wed Jan 28 11:29:33 2009
From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:29:33 -0800
Subject: [kj] Jazz Coleman, what a bar stool
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didn't he add one verse in Maori or something?
he played it on the piano for us, during the 2003 tour :)



From: bq at soundgardener.co.nzTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:38:05 +1100Subject: Re: [kj] Jazz Coleman, what a bar stool







NZ National Anthem story?90 000 000 000 000 miles and counting.
 
Oh and what?s Jaz doing slightly drunk?
 




From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of nicholas fitzpatrickSent: Wednesday, 28 January 2009 23:55To: gathering at misera.netSubject: [kj] Jazz Coleman, what a bar stool
 

 
"I'm Jazz, man - this is my bar," said the slightly drunk Englishman as we entered a tiny dive in semi-suburban Prague. So we got talking. Or, arguing fiercely more like, because for all that this Jazz fellow was pretty funny, he was also an obstreperous bastard, and we just couldn't take his claims seriously. "We're descended from aliens, who built the pyramids" was a key theme. "I moved to Iceland to escape the apocalypse." All this, put forth aggressively, followed by "I co-wrote the New Zealand national anthem, with Mauris." "Bollocks" we said. Bit of googling the next day and it turned out he wasn't lying. But also our man 'Jazz' had failed to tell us his most outstanding claim to fame, that he was in fact Jaz Coleman, frontman of the occasionally mind-blowing post-punk outfit Killing Joke.

 

 

http://www.theskinny.co.uk/article/44629-holiday-snapshorts

 


 



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From fluwdot at earthlink.net  Wed Jan 28 11:30:23 2009
From: fluwdot at earthlink.net (fluw)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:30:23 -0600
Subject: [kj] Jazz Coleman, what a bar stool
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Sir the man who claims to be jaz is no doubt him. 

 

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Behalf Of nicholas fitzpatrick
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 6:55 AM
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] Jazz Coleman, what a bar stool

 

 

"I'm Jazz, man - this is my bar," said the slightly drunk Englishman as we
entered a tiny dive in semi-suburban Prague. So we got talking. Or, arguing
fiercely more like, because for all that this Jazz fellow was pretty funny,
he was also an obstreperous bastard, and we just couldn't take his claims
seriously. "We're descended from aliens, who built the pyramids" was a key
theme. "I moved to Iceland to escape the apocalypse." All this, put forth
aggressively, followed by "I co-wrote the New Zealand national anthem, with
Mauris." "Bollocks" we said. Bit of googling the next day and it turned out
he wasn't lying. But also our man 'Jazz' had failed to tell us his most
outstanding claim to fame, that he was in fact Jaz Coleman, frontman of the
occasionally mind-blowing post-punk outfit Killing Joke.

 

 

http://www.theskinny.co.uk/article/44629-holiday-snapshorts

 





 

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From marsboy1 at msn.com  Wed Jan 28 11:41:00 2009
From: marsboy1 at msn.com (Matthew Burke)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:41:00 -0500
Subject: [kj] Jazz Coleman, what a bar stool
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> occasionally mind-blowing Hey, only Gatherers get to use such phrases!
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From folk.devil at hotmail.com  Wed Jan 28 11:44:24 2009
From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:44:24 -0800
Subject: [kj] OT: Magazine Tickets, Janean
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excellent..and a RAF tee, too! ;)
 
the dog seems more interested in the seagulls :)
 



Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:41:15 +0000From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.ukTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] OT: Magazine Tickets, Janean





Love that film.  
 
Although I?ve got a Shih Tzu instead of a scooter?
 
http://www.biftas.co.uk/temp/Me_and_Ted.jpg
 
 
 





From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devilSent: 28 January 2009 02:08To: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] OT: Magazine Tickets, Janean
 
http://www.filmforum.org/archivedfilms/quad/quadanimsm2.gif??



Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:32:31 +0000From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.ukTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] OT: Magazine Tickets

That?s cool ? say hello if you see me.  I?ll be the short arse in the green parka.
 
Cheers,
Janean
 

 
 



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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Wed Jan 28 12:14:41 2009
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 04:14:41 +1100
Subject: [kj] Jazz Coleman, what a bar stool
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All I know is that the NZ National Anthem is now generally sung in Maori as
well as English, Jeremy reckons he was instrumental in persuading Hine Mohi
(I think) to sing it in Maori at a Rugby World Cup final in the 90s, which,
apparently, caused a debate in NZ that raged for months and went all the way
to Parliament (can't remember any of this myself but it could have happened)
and it now 'officially' has to be sung in both languages or some such. I
read what she had to say about it and her version has Jaz as a somewhat
lesser player, not surprisingly. To be honest no one in NZ really knows Hine
or Jaz, and like most countries no one really cares about the National
Anthem, other than wanting to change it to something less crusty,
imperialistic and old farty. 

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of folk devil
Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 03:30
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Jazz Coleman, what a bar stool

 

didn't he add one verse in Maori or something?
he played it on the piano for us, during the 2003 tour :)



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From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:38:05 +1100
Subject: Re: [kj] Jazz Coleman, what a bar stool



NZ National Anthem story.90 000 000 000 000 miles and counting.

 

Oh and what's Jaz doing slightly drunk?

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of nicholas fitzpatrick
Sent: Wednesday, 28 January 2009 23:55
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] Jazz Coleman, what a bar stool

 

 

"I'm Jazz, man - this is my bar," said the slightly drunk Englishman as we
entered a tiny dive in semi-suburban Prague. So we got talking. Or, arguing
fiercely more like, because for all that this Jazz fellow was pretty funny,
he was also an obstreperous bastard, and we just couldn't take his claims
seriously. "We're descended from aliens, who built the pyramids" was a key
theme. "I moved to Iceland to escape the apocalypse." All this, put forth
aggressively, followed by "I co-wrote the New Zealand national anthem, with
Mauris." "Bollocks" we said. Bit of googling the next day and it turned out
he wasn't lying. But also our man 'Jazz' had failed to tell us his most
outstanding claim to fame, that he was in fact Jaz Coleman, frontman of the
occasionally mind-blowing post-punk outfit Killing Joke.

 

 

http://www.theskinny.co.uk/article/44629-holiday-snapshorts

 

 

 

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:56:49 -0800
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Do Kiwis still sing God save the queen, or just God save New Zealand?

From: bq at soundgardener.co.nzTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 04:14:41 +1100Subject: Re: [kj] Jazz Coleman, what a bar stool







All I know is that the NZ National Anthem is now generally sung in Maori as well as English, Jeremy reckons he was instrumental in persuading Hine Mohi (I think) to sing it in Maori at a Rugby World Cup final in the 90s, which, apparently, caused a debate in NZ that raged for months and went all the way to Parliament (can?t remember any of this myself but it could have happened) and it now ?officially? has to be sung in both languages or some such. I read what she had to say about it and her version has Jaz as a somewhat lesser player, not surprisingly. To be honest no one in NZ really knows Hine or Jaz, and like most countries no one really cares about the National Anthem, other than wanting to change it to something less crusty, imperialistic and old farty. 
 




From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devilSent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 03:30To: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] Jazz Coleman, what a bar stool
 
didn't he add one verse in Maori or something?he played it on the piano for us, during the 2003 tour :)




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From karen.weil at sddt.com  Wed Jan 28 13:25:53 2009
From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:25:53 -0800
Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine tracks...
References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC07236A@mr-pants.the-lab.local><BLU117-W4927675B9C2712042835D69DC80@phx.gbl>
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Folk:  You're right; Magazine did not take off here at all. They were definitely not even in the popular "new wave" category back in the day. But glad they're still around! 

k.w.
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  To: gathering at misera.net 
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  Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine tracks...


  Did Magazine ever take off in the States?
  Always liked their music, mainly the first 3, but I never really hear any Americans really talk of them :/

  Actually, to get all Cheggers about it, they would be in me all time top 10...most days..


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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Wed Jan 28 13:42:01 2009
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:42:01 +1100
Subject: [kj] Jazz Coleman, what a bar stool
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God Defend NZ. Sung in Maori first then English. Pretty much only at
important rugby games.  

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of folk devil
Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 04:57
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Jazz Coleman, what a bar stool

 

Do Kiwis still sing God save the queen, or just God save New Zealand?

  _____  

From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 04:14:41 +1100
Subject: Re: [kj] Jazz Coleman, what a bar stool

All I know is that the NZ National Anthem is now generally sung in Maori as
well as English, Jeremy reckons he was instrumental in persuading Hine Mohi
(I think) to sing it in Maori at a Rugby World Cup final in the 90s, which,
apparently, caused a debate in NZ that raged for months and went all the way
to Parliament (can't remember any of this myself but it could have happened)
and it now 'officially' has to be sung in both languages or some such. I
read what she had to say about it and her version has Jaz as a somewhat
lesser player, not surprisingly. To be honest no one in NZ really knows Hine
or Jaz, and like most countries no one really cares about the National
Anthem, other than wanting to change it to something less crusty,
imperialistic and old farty. 

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of folk devil
Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 03:30
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Jazz Coleman, what a bar stool

 

didn't he add one verse in Maori or something?
he played it on the piano for us, during the 2003 tour :)

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From dpeace at bigfoot.com  Wed Jan 28 18:26:47 2009
From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:26:47 -0000
Subject: [kj] [Ultra-OT] A man who looks like a thumb.
In-Reply-To: <BLU117-W4772F97CBE7CD86FEA23EB9DC80@phx.gbl>
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http://twitpic.com/1886i

 

Actually, I'm not sure about the fellow to the right either.

 

Darren

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From laughingchris at hotmail.com  Wed Jan 28 19:34:48 2009
From: laughingchris at hotmail.com (Chris Williamson)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:34:48 +0000
Subject: [kj] Paris Videos - 26th and 27th Sept Trabendo
Message-ID: <COL109-W18A24766DC0BF85545C64FBBC90@phx.gbl>


In case you didn't see them already
 
http://www.vimeo.com/1826431#
 
and
 
http://www.vimeo.com/1833337
Enjoy yourselves!
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From dpeace at bigfoot.com  Wed Jan 28 19:55:56 2009
From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:55:56 -0000
Subject: [kj] Paris Videos - 26th and 27th Sept Trabendo
In-Reply-To: <COL109-W18A24766DC0BF85545C64FBBC90@phx.gbl>
References: <COL109-W18A24766DC0BF85545C64FBBC90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <03da01c981ac$58863c00$0992b400$@com>

Great find! Cheers.

 

Darren

Hungerford, UK

 

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Chris Williamson
Sent: 29 January 2009 00:35
To: Gathering Mailing List
Subject: [kj] Paris Videos - 26th and 27th Sept Trabendo

 

In case you didn't see them already
 
http://www.vimeo.com/1826431#
 
and
 
http://www.vimeo.com/1833337

Enjoy yourselves!

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From folk.devil at hotmail.com  Wed Jan 28 20:00:02 2009
From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:00:02 -0800
Subject: [kj] [Ultra-OT] A man who looks like a thumb.
In-Reply-To: <039901c9819f$e3e13460$aba39d20$@com>
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The bariatric boy has no ears!

From: dpeace at bigfoot.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:26:47 +0000
Subject: [kj] [Ultra-OT] A man who looks like a thumb.
















http://twitpic.com/1886i

 

Actually, I?m not sure about the fellow to the right either.

 

Darren

Hungerford, UK


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From jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk  Wed Jan 28 20:17:36 2009
From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk (jo)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:17:36 -0000
Subject: [kj] Fab letter
Message-ID: <03be01c981af$5fe590b0$0100000a@jo>




http://timesnews.typepad.com/news/2009/01/apparently-sir-richard-branson-thevirgin-bossthought-this-was-the-funniestletter-of-complaint-hed-ever-received------dear.html
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From bettedillinger at live.com  Wed Jan 28 20:25:12 2009
From: bettedillinger at live.com (Bette Dillinger)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:25:12 -0500
Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine tracks...
In-Reply-To: <554DE2B732014EEF992A171797F387BF@edweil>
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Yeah, I discovered them (Magazine) through a Peter Murphy cover of "The Light Pours Out of Me", which was on the same album ("If the World Fails to Fall Apart") that had a cover of Pere Ubu's "Final Solution".  All hail Mr Murphy for having incredible taste........wonder when he is going to do a KJ cover ;)  

From: karen.weil at sddt.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:25:53 -0800Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine tracks...


Folk:  You're right; Magazine did not take off here at all. They were definitely not even in the popular "new wave" category back in the day. But glad they're still around! 
 
k.w.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: folk devil 
To: gathering at misera.net 
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine tracks...
Did Magazine ever take off in the States?Always liked their music, mainly the first 3, but I never really hear any Americans really talk of them :/Actually, to get all Cheggers about it, they would be in me all time top 10...most days..

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From bettedillinger at live.com  Wed Jan 28 20:34:23 2009
From: bettedillinger at live.com (Bette Dillinger)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:34:23 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks
Message-ID: <BLU148-W42AE44E038A71B605B6F12BBC90@phx.gbl>



Hey everyone!
    Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it.  In the US David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the routine of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994 because it was considered too "controversial".  The routine that sullied his relationship with the media to a degree.  
 
His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make this shit up.).........
Damn, it has been 14 years!  Are there any comedians that are flying under the radar that should be checked out?  I am still looking for one whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour.
 
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From dpeace at bigfoot.com  Wed Jan 28 20:34:13 2009
From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:34:13 -0000
Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine tracks...
In-Reply-To: <BLU148-W5C04FC5D6B1775FC3B705BBC90@phx.gbl>
References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC07236A@mr-pants.the-lab.local><BLU117-W4927675B9C2712042835D69DC80@phx.gbl>	<BLU117-W50147F84585029A397D3539DC80@phx.gbl>
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God I can just imagine it. I love Bauhaus, but all that Bowie-fying on a KJ
track? Argh.

 

I suppose he could do "Goodbye To The Village" and then I could not listen
to that version too.

 

He was responsible for the best version of Cale's "Rosegarden Funeral Of
Sores", though.

 

Darren

Hungerford, UK 

 

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Bette Dillinger
Sent: 29 January 2009 01:25
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine tracks...

 

Yeah, I discovered them (Magazine) through a Peter Murphy cover of "The
Light Pours Out of Me", which was on the same album ("If the World Fails to
Fall Apart") that had a cover of Pere Ubu's "Final Solution".  All hail Mr
Murphy for having incredible taste........wonder when he is going to do a KJ
cover ;)  

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From: karen.weil at sddt.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:25:53 -0800
Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine tracks...

Folk:  You're right; Magazine did not take off here at all. They were
definitely not even in the popular "new wave" category back in the day. But
glad they're still around! 

 

k.w.

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From: folk devil <mailto:folk.devil at hotmail.com>  

To: gathering at misera.net 

Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 6:27 PM

Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine tracks...

 

Did Magazine ever take off in the States?
Always liked their music, mainly the first 3, but I never really hear any
Americans really talk of them :/

Actually, to get all Cheggers about it, they would be in me all time top
10...most days..


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From cliffmonk at gmail.com  Wed Jan 28 22:34:01 2009
From: cliffmonk at gmail.com (Cliff Livingston)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:34:01 -0900
Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
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love bill hicks,thanks got it set to record



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>
> Hey everyone!
>     Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it.  In the US
> David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the routine
> of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994 because it was
> considered too "controversial".  The routine that sullied his relationship
> with the media to a degree.
>
> His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of
> the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make
> this shit up.).........
> Damn, it has been 14 years!  Are there any comedians that are flying under
> the radar that should be checked out?  I am still looking for one whose
> voice is so resonant with truth and humour.
>
> Bette
>
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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Wed Jan 28 23:56:57 2009
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:56:57 +1100
Subject: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks
In-Reply-To: <BLU148-W42AE44E038A71B605B6F12BBC90@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU148-W42AE44E038A71B605B6F12BBC90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BF5604E65D734FA788A940FB3B3A88E8@Soundgardener>

The only other comedians I'd put in that category (and none as good as
Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who's a surprising
find actually.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8

 

PS: I haven't watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but from memory
it's pretty cool.

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Bette Dillinger
Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 


Hey everyone!
    Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it.  In the US
David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the routine
of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994 because it was
considered too "controversial".  The routine that sullied his relationship
with the media to a degree.  
 
His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of
the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make
this shit up.).........
Damn, it has been 14 years!  Are there any comedians that are flying under
the radar that should be checked out?  I am still looking for one whose
voice is so resonant with truth and humour.
 
Bette        

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From fluwdot at earthlink.net  Wed Jan 28 23:59:28 2009
From: fluwdot at earthlink.net (fluw)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:59:28 -0600
Subject: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks
In-Reply-To: <BF5604E65D734FA788A940FB3B3A88E8@Soundgardener>
Message-ID: <E1LSP04-00013v-U0@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Doug Stanhope works for an acerbic wit fix 

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 10:57 PM
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

The only other comedians I'd put in that category (and none as good as
Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who's a surprising
find actually.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8

 

PS: I haven't watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but from memory
it's pretty cool.

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Bette Dillinger
Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 


Hey everyone!
    Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it.  In the US
David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the routine
of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994 because it was
considered too "controversial".  The routine that sullied his relationship
with the media to a degree.  
 
His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of
the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make
this shit up.).........
Damn, it has been 14 years!  Are there any comedians that are flying under
the radar that should be checked out?  I am still looking for one whose
voice is so resonant with truth and humour.
 
Bette        

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From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk (jo)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:13:15 -0000
Subject: [kj] [Ultra-OT] A man who looks like a thumb.
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A true, digital image <snicker>

  http://twitpic.com/1886i

   

  Actually, I'm not sure about the fellow to the right either.

   

  Darren

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From green.sun1980 at googlemail.com  Thu Jan 29 04:25:28 2009
From: green.sun1980 at googlemail.com (Paul Richards)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:25:28 +0000
Subject: [kj] Cover Song
In-Reply-To: <BLU148-W190A0B6EDEFE8AAAD7D8B3BBCD0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU117-W50AE6F33E96D27D8A239EA9DCF0@phx.gbl>
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Check CLock MAchine 2 on Malicious DAmage - by the (not very) enigmatically
named "Bloodsport"
paul

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> Can someone help me out and tell me if indeed there is an official release
> or a relatively well known bootleg
> version of the Joke's cover of "Bodies"?  I know, everybody here can
> probably say it is 15.43 seconds
> into whatever album, but I have no clue.  Shit, I thought I was pretty good
> when it came
> my knowledge about 'em.
>
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From fatpotanga at gmail.com  Thu Jan 29 04:44:41 2009
From: fatpotanga at gmail.com (fatpotanga)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:44:41 +0000
Subject: [kj] Fab letter
In-Reply-To: <03be01c981af$5fe590b0$0100000a@jo>
References: <03be01c981af$5fe590b0$0100000a@jo>
Message-ID: <783EFA30-951F-4409-8126-18F57C71B688@gmail.com>

The lines regarding mustard  made me cry with laughter - i needed  
that, thanks Jo!



On 29 Jan 2009, at 01:17, jo wrote:

>
>
> http://timesnews.typepad.com/news/2009/01/apparently-sir-richard-branson-thevirgin-bossthought-this-was-the-funniestletter-of-complaint-hed-ever-received------dear.html
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From jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Jan 29 06:37:22 2009
From: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk (Jim Harper)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:37:22 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine tracks...
In-Reply-To: <BLU148-W5C04FC5D6B1775FC3B705BBC90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <223116.54457.qm@web25901.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

With John McGeoch on guitars, was it not? Good stuff.

--- On Thu, 29/1/09, Bette Dillinger <bettedillinger at live.com> wrote:

From: Bette Dillinger <bettedillinger at live.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine tracks...
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Thursday, 29 January, 2009, 1:25 AM




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Yeah, I discovered them (Magazine) through a Peter Murphy cover of "The Light Pours Out of Me", which was on the same album ("If the World Fails to Fall Apart") that?had a cover of Pere Ubu's "Final Solution".? All hail Mr Murphy for having incredible taste........wonder when he is going to do a KJ cover ;)? 



From: karen.weil at sddt.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:25:53 -0800
Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine tracks...



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Folk:? You're right; Magazine did not take off here at all. They were definitely not even in the popular "new wave" category back in the day. But glad they're still around! 
?
k.w.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: folk devil 
To: gathering at misera.net 
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine tracks...

Did Magazine ever take off in the States?
Always liked their music, mainly the first 3, but I never really hear any Americans really talk of them :/

Actually, to get all Cheggers about it, they would be in me all time top 10...most days..



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From jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk  Thu Jan 29 09:59:02 2009
From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk (jo)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:59:02 -0000
Subject: [kj] [Ultra-OT] A man who looks like a thumb.
References: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DA90@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal><COL113-W47F3D095732F4E43A0D632CEC80@phx.gbl><E7A190C7CC654B2AAC6EF832857FA47F@Soundgardener><BLU117-W4772F97CBE7CD86FEA23EB9DC80@phx.gbl>
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Message-ID: <04d101c98222$1f9531a0$0100000a@jo>

I noticed this amongst some of the replies: http://twitpic.com/18n0l

  The bariatric boy has no ears!


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  From: dpeace at bigfoot.com
  To: gathering at misera.net
  Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:26:47 +0000
  Subject: [kj] [Ultra-OT] A man who looks like a thumb.


  http://twitpic.com/1886i



  Actually, I?m not sure about the fellow to the right either.



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  Hungerford, UK



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From Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk  Thu Jan 29 10:59:49 2009
From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk (Janean Lancaster)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:59:49 -0000
Subject: [kj] [Ultra-OT] A man who looks like a thumb.
Message-ID: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DABA@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal>

Heh.  Wonder if his name is Tom?

 

Sorry.

 

________________________________

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace
Sent: 28 January 2009 23:27
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: [kj] [Ultra-OT] A man who looks like a thumb.

 

http://twitpic.com/1886i

 

Actually, I'm not sure about the fellow to the right either.

 

Darren

Hungerford, UK

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From Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk  Thu Jan 29 11:31:33 2009
From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk (Janean Lancaster)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:31:33 -0000
Subject: [kj] OT: Birthday Party
Message-ID: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DABE@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal>

Have SeeTickets got their wires crossed here or something?


BIRTHDAY PARTY
A favourite of the late, great John Peel the Australian pop-punk band
will be in the UK for two special dates in February. Book now!
http://www.seetickets.com/?e=birthday+party



From folk.devil at hotmail.com  Thu Jan 29 11:29:00 2009
From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:29:00 -0800
Subject: [kj] [Ultra-OT] A man who looks like a thumb.
In-Reply-To: <04d101c98222$1f9531a0$0100000a@jo>
References: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DA90@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal><COL113-W47F3D095732F4E43A0D632CEC80@phx.gbl><E7A190C7CC654B2AAC6EF832857FA47F@Soundgardener><BLU117-W4772F97CBE7CD86FEA23EB9DC80@phx.gbl>
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LOL! Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water!

From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:59:02 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] [Ultra-OT] A man who looks like a thumb.


I noticed this amongst some of the replies: http://twitpic.com/18n0l

 The bariatric boy has no ears!

From: dpeace at bigfoot.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:26:47 +0000Subject: [kj] [Ultra-OT] A man who looks like a thumb.



http://twitpic.com/1886i
 
Actually, I?m not sure about the fellow to the right either.
 
Darren
Hungerford, UK

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From Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk  Thu Jan 29 08:32:02 2009
From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk (Phillipps Marc)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:32:02 -0000
Subject: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks
References: <BLU148-W42AE44E038A71B605B6F12BBC90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BD60B2A89D16094897629D4CCC50B1CB3A497F@ED01VN01.NCL-HIS.NHS.UK>

>Are there any comedians that are flying under the radar that should be
checked out?  I am still >looking for one whose voice is so resonant
with truth and humour.

 

Mark Thomas is good, as is Rob (or does he call himself Robert these
days?) Newman 

 

http://www.markthomasinfo.com/

http://www.robnewman.com/

 

I am currently enjoying a lot of what Tim Minchin is doing, not exactly
in the same political vein but very funny all the same 

 

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp22Rh2c-3o

 

Marc (back from a bout of that norovirus thing) 

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of Bette Dillinger
Sent: 29 January 2009 01:34
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 


Hey everyone!
    Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it.  In the US
David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the
routine of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994 because
it was considered too "controversial".  The routine that sullied his
relationship with the media to a degree.  
 
His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor
of the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't
make this shit up.).........
Damn, it has been 14 years!  Are there any comedians that are flying
under the radar that should be checked out?  I am still looking for one
whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour.
 
Bette        

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From vassifer at earthlink.net  Thu Jan 29 13:16:26 2009
From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alex Smith)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:16:26 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [kj] OT: Birthday Party
Message-ID: <15800986.1233252987101.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>


This seems somewhat strenuously unlikely.

Also heard that Mick Harvey just left the Bad Seeds.

No Tracey Pew = No Birthday Party.

Alex in NYC


-----Original Message-----
>From: Janean Lancaster <Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk>
>Sent: Jan 29, 2009 11:31 AM
>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
>Subject: [kj] OT: Birthday Party
>
>Have SeeTickets got their wires crossed here or something?
>
>
>BIRTHDAY PARTY
>A favourite of the late, great John Peel the Australian pop-punk band
>will be in the UK for two special dates in February. Book now!
>http://www.seetickets.com/?e=birthday+party
>
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From karen.weil at sddt.com  Thu Jan 29 13:16:16 2009
From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:16:16 -0800
Subject: [kj] [Ultra-OT] A man who looks like a thumb.
References: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DA90@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal><COL113-W47F3D095732F4E43A0D632CEC80@phx.gbl><E7A190C7CC654B2AAC6EF832857FA47F@Soundgardener><BLU117-W4772F97CBE7CD86FEA23EB9DC80@phx.gbl><039901c9819f$e3e13460$aba39d20$@com><BLU117-W2053493F302F915CA3EC7C9DC90@phx.gbl>
	<04d101c98222$1f9531a0$0100000a@jo>
Message-ID: <DAFF2A80454D415787D2AEBD07F2BC89@edweil>

Truly bizarre foto. Nice digital! ; )

k.w.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: jo 
  To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
  Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [kj] [Ultra-OT] A man who looks like a thumb.


  I noticed this amongst some of the replies: http://twitpic.com/18n0l

    The bariatric boy has no ears!


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    From: dpeace at bigfoot.com
    To: gathering at misera.net
    Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:26:47 +0000
    Subject: [kj] [Ultra-OT] A man who looks like a thumb.


    http://twitpic.com/1886i



    Actually, I?m not sure about the fellow to the right either.



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    Hungerford, UK



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From rkpettiford at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 29 13:41:19 2009
From: rkpettiford at yahoo.com (Kevin Richard)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:41:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] grumpyoldsod
Message-ID: <19474.281.qm@web59809.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

Good read and a good laugh go to www.grumpyoldsod.com



      
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From karen.weil at sddt.com  Thu Jan 29 13:42:27 2009
From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:42:27 -0800
Subject: [kj] OT: Birthday Party
References: <15800986.1233252987101.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1CD1CAA7D665486B9D4A2EA65A2044D2@edweil>

What? Harvey? Oh, man that sucks.
Just saw the Bad Seeds in September; they were awesome. Nick Cave is 
definitely the leader, but without Mick it just won't be the same. Thanks 
for the newsflash, though.

k.w.
SoCal

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alex Smith" <vassifer at earthlink.net>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
<gathering at misera.net>; "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
<gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Birthday Party


>
> This seems somewhat strenuously unlikely.
>
> Also heard that Mick Harvey just left the Bad Seeds.
>
> No Tracey Pew = No Birthday Party.
>
> Alex in NYC
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Janean Lancaster <Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk>
>>Sent: Jan 29, 2009 11:31 AM
>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
>><gathering at misera.net>
>>Subject: [kj] OT: Birthday Party
>>
>>Have SeeTickets got their wires crossed here or something?
>>
>>
>>BIRTHDAY PARTY
>>A favourite of the late, great John Peel the Australian pop-punk band
>>will be in the UK for two special dates in February. Book now!
>>http://www.seetickets.com/?e=birthday+party
>>
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From pmdavies at gmail.com  Thu Jan 29 14:25:19 2009
From: pmdavies at gmail.com (iPat)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:25:19 +0000
Subject: [kj] Jazz Coleman, what a bar stool
In-Reply-To: <1C9A19C5A1AE421B8A909B1349313FD3@Soundgardener>
References: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DA90@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal>
	<COL113-W47F3D095732F4E43A0D632CEC80@phx.gbl>
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Message-ID: <1646350c0901291125i70a31f0eiae68b4b1561a2aa8@mail.gmail.com>

except for the welsh

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:
...and like most countries no one really cares about the National
> Anthem, other than wanting to change it to something less crusty,
> imperialistic and old farty.

From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk  Thu Jan 29 15:24:24 2009
From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:24:24 -0000
Subject: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks
Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC07236F@mr-pants.the-lab.local>

LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;)
 
>From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is Denis Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because there's no cure for cancer"'

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
Sent: 29 January 2009 04:57
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks



The only other comedians I'd put in that category (and none as good as Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who's a surprising find actually.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8

 

PS: I haven't watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but from memory it's pretty cool.

 


  _____  


From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Bette Dillinger
Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 


Hey everyone!
    Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it.  In the US David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the routine of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994 because it was considered too "controversial".  The routine that sullied his relationship with the media to a degree.  
 
His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make this shit up.).........
Damn, it has been 14 years!  Are there any comedians that are flying under the radar that should be checked out?  I am still looking for one whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour.
 
Bette        


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From dpeace at bigfoot.com  Thu Jan 29 19:02:50 2009
From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:02:50 -0000
Subject: [kj] OT : White Lies
In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC07236F@mr-pants.the-lab.local>
References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC07236F@mr-pants.the-lab.local>
Message-ID: <009801c9826e$17e46fb0$47ad4f10$@com>

I'm disgusted with myself. I like the White Lies LP.

 

Darren

Hungerford, UK

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From karen.weil at sddt.com  Thu Jan 29 19:23:39 2009
From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:23:39 -0800
Subject: [kj] OT : White Lies
References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC07236F@mr-pants.the-lab.local>
	<009801c9826e$17e46fb0$47ad4f10$@com>
Message-ID: <B9642DE9D7A94BC0A17BEA7BFB8D0A0A@edweil>

Shame, shame, Darren! ; ) But enjoy yourself!

Cheers, 

k.w.
(fellow "Brazil" fan)
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Darren A. Peace 
  To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' 
  Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:02 PM
  Subject: [kj] OT : White Lies


    I'm disgusted with myself. I like the White Lies LP.

     

    Darren

    Hungerford, UK



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From folk.devil at hotmail.com  Thu Jan 29 20:05:40 2009
From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:05:40 -0800
Subject: [kj] OT : White Lies
In-Reply-To: <B9642DE9D7A94BC0A17BEA7BFB8D0A0A@edweil>
References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC07236F@mr-pants.the-lab.local>
	<009801c9826e$17e46fb0$47ad4f10$@com> 
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2008/mar/12/popandrock1

http://www.myspace.com/whitelies

not sold...i think it's the selling ;)

From: karen.weil at sddt.com
To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; gathering at misera.net
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:23:39 -0800
Subject: Re: [kj] OT : White Lies










Shame, shame, Darren! ; ) But enjoy 
yourself!
 
Cheers, 
 
k.w.
(fellow "Brazil" fan)

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  Darren A. 
  Peace 
  To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the 
  band!)' 
  Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:02 
  PM
  Subject: [kj] OT : White Lies
  

  
  
    I?m 
    disgusted with myself. I like the White Lies LP.
     
    Darren
    Hungerford, 
    UK
  
  

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From soundmagick at gmail.com  Thu Jan 29 23:18:11 2009
From: soundmagick at gmail.com (damon cook)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:18:11 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT: Birthday Party
In-Reply-To: <15800986.1233252987101.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <15800986.1233252987101.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <c983a7de0901292018j5cd8d2c3kd6affdb47035e8c1@mail.gmail.com>

"STRENOUSLY UNLIKELY" THATS FUCKING CLASSIC MATE!  I HOPE I DONT HAVE A
HEART ATTACK WALKING UP THAT BIG HILL TO SEE THIS WEIRD BAND CALLED RAVEN
FROM PHILLY THAT FLEW INTO TOWN TONIGHT TO SCARE THE FUCK OUTTA ME. IM SURE
GRETA BRINKMAN WILL GRACE ME WITH HER DIVINE PRESENCE ADN MAYBE ILL BE ABLE
TO GET OUT SOME INTELLIGIBLE LANGUAGE AMIDST THE METAL AND SMOKE THIS TIME
WITHOUT THAT OBNOXIOUS MARTIN ATKINS GUY AROUND THIS TIME...AS LONG AS THE
LAMB OF GOD CREW DOESNT SHOW UP IN FULL FORCE I'LL BE OK...FUCKING STAGE
FRIGHT IS HELL WHEN ALL THE WORLD IS A STAGE. RUSH RUSH RUSH. NOW,WHERE'S MY
MOB RESEARCH SHIRT HIDING? THIS TIME MY MISERY INDEX AT A CONSTANT 000 SINCE
I'VE DISCOVERED I'VE BEEN SUFFERING FROM THE Y2K BUG I CAUGHT IN 1999 WHEN
THIS WHOLE "DISABILITY" HOLOGRAM STARTED.
PARDON ME,WHAT I MEANT TO SAY WAS "THE KENNEDY CENTER HONORS KILLING JOKE IN
2023 LIVE ON MSAPPLEBC! STREAM IT LIVE ON YR INTERWEB-JOHN!"

On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

>
> This seems somewhat strenuously unlikely.
>
> Also heard that Mick Harvey just left the Bad Seeds.
>
> No Tracey Pew = No Birthday Party.
>
> Alex in NYC
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Janean Lancaster <Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk>
> >Sent: Jan 29, 2009 11:31 AM
> >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <
> gathering at misera.net>
> >Subject: [kj] OT: Birthday Party
> >
> >Have SeeTickets got their wires crossed here or something?
> >
> >
> >BIRTHDAY PARTY
> >A favourite of the late, great John Peel the Australian pop-punk band
> >will be in the UK for two special dates in February. Book now!
> >http://www.seetickets.com/?e=birthday+party
> >
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From sneakypete at uwclub.net  Fri Jan 30 00:51:48 2009
From: sneakypete at uwclub.net (Peter Moltesen)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:51:48 -0000
Subject: [kj] OT : White Lies
In-Reply-To: <009801c9826e$17e46fb0$47ad4f10$@com>
Message-ID: <20090130055153.17F18105A6@mailwash5.pair.com>

Hey Darren

 

You're not alone !

I heard it playing in Tempest here in Brum the other day and bought it

On the spot.....:o/

 

I'm of an age where I should be grumbling about ripping off Joy Division,

Teardrops etc etc, but I haven't the heart - it's a good album

 

Peter

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Darren A. Peace
Sent: 30 January 2009 00:03
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: [kj] OT : White Lies

 

I'm disgusted with myself. I like the White Lies LP.

 

Darren

Hungerford, UK

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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Fri Jan 30 01:34:24 2009
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:34:24 +1100
Subject: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks
In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC07236F@mr-pants.the-lab.local>
References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC07236F@mr-pants.the-lab.local>
Message-ID: <2C4D2FE09C394CA890C0B53DC921966A@Soundgardener>

Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots  

 

If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=?

 

Please show working.

 

  _____  

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of ade
Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;)

 

>From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's
transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is Denis
Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because there's no cure
for cancer"'

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
Sent: 29 January 2009 04:57
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

The only other comedians I'd put in that category (and none as good as
Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who's a surprising
find actually.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8

 

PS: I haven't watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but from memory
it's pretty cool.

 


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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Bette Dillinger
Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 


Hey everyone!
    Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it.  In the US
David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the routine
of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994 because it was
considered too "controversial".  The routine that sullied his relationship
with the media to a degree.  
 
His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of
the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make
this shit up.).........
Damn, it has been 14 years!  Are there any comedians that are flying under
the radar that should be checked out?  I am still looking for one whose
voice is so resonant with truth and humour.
 
Bette        


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From Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk  Fri Jan 30 04:41:19 2009
From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk (Janean Lancaster)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:41:19 -0000
Subject: [kj] OT : White Lies
Message-ID: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DAC2@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal>

>From what I've heard, me too.  Don't know whether the whole album will
stand up to repeated listens or not yet though, but the single has so
far.

 

Can't understand grumpy old grumbling about "rip-offs" - if the music's
great I just don't care.  

 

Cheers,

Janean

 

________________________________

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of Peter Moltesen
Sent: 30 January 2009 05:52
To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; 'A list about all things Killing Joke
(the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT : White Lies

 

Hey Darren

 

You're not alone !

I heard it playing in Tempest here in Brum the other day and bought it

On the spot...............:o/

 

I'm of an age where I should be grumbling about ripping off Joy
Division,

Teardrops etc etc, but I haven't the heart - it's a good album

 

Peter

 

________________________________

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace
Sent: 30 January 2009 00:03
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: [kj] OT : White Lies

 

	I'm disgusted with myself. I like the White Lies LP.

	 

	Darren

	Hungerford, UK

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From fatpotanga at gmail.com  Fri Jan 30 04:45:34 2009
From: fatpotanga at gmail.com (fatpotanga)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:45:34 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT : White Lies
In-Reply-To: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DAC2@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal>
References: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DAC2@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal>
Message-ID: <5FC4F1BE-642D-4907-97A5-5EC09065E766@gmail.com>

Yup - me too & I wholeheartedly agree with your 'grumpy old grumbling'  
line.
It's all very pipe & slippers
"Now, when I were a lad..."  :)


On 30 Jan 2009, at 09:41, Janean Lancaster wrote:

> From what I?ve heard, me too.  Don?t know whether the whole album  
> will stand up to repeated listens or not yet though, but the single  
> has so far.
>
> Can?t understand grumpy old grumbling about ?rip-offs? ? if the  
> music?s great I just don?t care.
>
> Cheers,
> Janean
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From Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk  Fri Jan 30 05:34:22 2009
From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk (Phillipps Marc)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:34:22 -0000
Subject: [kj] OT : White Lies
References: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DAC2@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal>
Message-ID: <BD60B2A89D16094897629D4CCC50B1CB3A4984@ED01VN01.NCL-HIS.NHS.UK>

>Can't understand grumpy old grumbling about "rip-offs" - if the music's
great I just don't care.  

 

I totally agree . . .  and in that vein I would like to nominate Dragons
with Here Are The Roses as my Track Of The Day:

 

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3M-AjLP7LL0

 

Who cares if it sounds a bit like Joy Division . . it is rather good 

 

________________________________

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of Janean Lancaster
Sent: 30 January 2009 09:41
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT : White Lies

 

>From what I've heard, me too.  Don't know whether the whole album will
stand up to repeated listens or not yet though, but the single has so
far.

 

Can't understand grumpy old grumbling about "rip-offs" - if the music's
great I just don't care.  

 

Cheers,

Janean

 

________________________________

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of Peter Moltesen
Sent: 30 January 2009 05:52
To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; 'A list about all things Killing Joke
(the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT : White Lies

 

Hey Darren

 

You're not alone !

I heard it playing in Tempest here in Brum the other day and bought it

On the spot...............:o/

 

I'm of an age where I should be grumbling about ripping off Joy
Division,

Teardrops etc etc, but I haven't the heart - it's a good album

 

Peter

 

________________________________

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace
Sent: 30 January 2009 00:03
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: [kj] OT : White Lies

 

	I'm disgusted with myself. I like the White Lies LP.

	 

	Darren

	Hungerford, UK
 
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From Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk  Fri Jan 30 06:54:55 2009
From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk (Janean Lancaster)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:54:55 -0000
Subject: [kj] OT : White Lies
Message-ID: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DAC5@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal>

Hmm, not bad.  Can't agree with all the "better than Interpol/Editors"
comments.

 

Liked this one more:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BJkYxrs-ZWw&feature=related

 

 

________________________________

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of Phillipps Marc
Sent: 30 January 2009 10:34
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT : White Lies

 

>Can't understand grumpy old grumbling about "rip-offs" - if the music's
great I just don't care.  

 

I totally agree . . .  and in that vein I would like to nominate Dragons
with Here Are The Roses as my Track Of The Day:

 

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3M-AjLP7LL0

 

Who cares if it sounds a bit like Joy Division . . it is rather good 

 

________________________________

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of Janean Lancaster
Sent: 30 January 2009 09:41
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT : White Lies

 

>From what I've heard, me too.  Don't know whether the whole album will
stand up to repeated listens or not yet though, but the single has so
far.

 

Can't understand grumpy old grumbling about "rip-offs" - if the music's
great I just don't care.  

 

Cheers,

Janean

 

________________________________

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of Peter Moltesen
Sent: 30 January 2009 05:52
To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; 'A list about all things Killing Joke
(the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT : White Lies

 

Hey Darren

 

You're not alone !

I heard it playing in Tempest here in Brum the other day and bought it

On the spot...............:o/

 

I'm of an age where I should be grumbling about ripping off Joy
Division,

Teardrops etc etc, but I haven't the heart - it's a good album

 

Peter

 

________________________________

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace
Sent: 30 January 2009 00:03
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: [kj] OT : White Lies

 

	I'm disgusted with myself. I like the White Lies LP.

	 

	Darren

	Hungerford, UK

 

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From vassifer at earthlink.net  Fri Jan 30 07:15:17 2009
From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alexander Smith)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:15:17 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks
In-Reply-To: <2C4D2FE09C394CA890C0B53DC921966A@Soundgardener>
References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC07236F@mr-pants.the-lab.local>
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Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks was  
capable of being. I love both, but it's not really a fair comparison.

Alex in NYC



On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote:

> Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots
>
> If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=?
>
> Please show working.
>
> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net 
> ] On Behalf Of ade
> Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
>
> LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;)
>
> From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's  
> transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is  
> Denis Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because  
> there's no cure for cancer"'
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net 
> ]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
> Sent: 29 January 2009 04:57
> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
> The only other comedians I?d put in that category (and none as good  
> as Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who?s a  
> surprising find actually.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8
>
> PS: I haven?t watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but  
> from memory it?s pretty cool.
>
> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net 
> ] On Behalf Of Bette Dillinger
> Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
>
>
> Hey everyone!
>     Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it.  In the  
> US David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST  
> the routine of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994  
> because it was considered too "controversial".  The routine that  
> sullied his relationship with the media to a degree.
>
> His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal  
> executor of the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but  
> then you can't make this shit up.).........
> Damn, it has been 14 years!  Are there any comedians that are flying  
> under the radar that should be checked out?  I am still looking for  
> one whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour.
>
> Bette
> size=2 width="100%" align=center>
> Windows Live?: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. Check  
> it out.
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From joker at Z6.com  Fri Jan 30 07:17:15 2009
From: joker at Z6.com (Rob's Arse)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 04:17:15 -0800
Subject: [kj] OT : White Lies
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From: joker at Z6.com (Rob's Arse)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 04:18:04 -0800
Subject: [kj] Jungle Jaz
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From pmdavies at gmail.com  Fri Jan 30 07:38:58 2009
From: pmdavies at gmail.com (iPat)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:38:58 +0000
Subject: [kj] Jungle Jaz
In-Reply-To: <20090130041804.1FEBE93E@resin15.mta.everyone.net>
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McClure went on to attack U2's Bono for not showing public support for
Palestine during the recent conflict with Israel over Gaza.

"Where's Bono now?" he said. "Everyone agrees we should save starving
Africans but where is he when we need him? He's probably holidaying on
Tony Blair's yacht."

lol

On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Rob's Arse <joker at z6.com> wrote:
>
>
> Looks like he's off to Venezuela then!
>
> http://www.nme.com/news/mongrel/42425   (see the bottom)




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iPat

Martin Luther King's Dream is no longer a Dream. It's become an
intellectual commodity, a plastic-wrapped piece of schmaltz, a gift
wrapped platitude so far removed from its revolutionary roots as a Che
Guevara T shirt. one size fits all

From a.tolksdorf at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Jan 30 08:39:59 2009
From: a.tolksdorf at yahoo.co.uk (Alexandra Tolksdorf)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:39:59 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] OT: finger art
Message-ID: <609470.1413.qm@web28612.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

http://life2oons.posterous.com/creativity-at-its-best-1
?~Alexandra. 


      
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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Fri Jan 30 10:28:05 2009
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 02:28:05 +1100
Subject: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales
Message-ID: <A3E7B0A3F24F4EEBA5DD3C2AA7690463@Soundgardener>

Do we have many people who work in the music industry on the list? I wanted
to voice an opinion about the decline in CD sales. 

 

I read these articles all the time, on tech sites and general news, about
the *terrible* decline in CD sales revenue and how it's affecting Sony and
Time Warner and Geffen and all the other music companies. And then I get
into the comments section, and the thing that strikes me is.people seem to
take the problem seriously. But I can't really see a problem?

 

Haven't we all been bitching about record companies since the day dot?
Artists and consumers alike? Aren't they the toll-booth between legitimate
artists and people who would benefit from their art? Don't they artificially
ratchet up the prices to consumers and down the prices to the artists,
didn't they charge more for CDs than cassettes despite cassettes costing
more to make (50% premium is the price I remember paying in the late 80s /
early 90s in NZ, $30+ vs $20). Don't they develop these shit Britney Spears
and boy bands that have no artistic merit whatsoever and pollute our youth
with mediocrity and perpetuate these negative stereotypes? Didn't we have to
pay a small fortune to change the media format of our collections from
records or cassettes to CDs, despite having - surely, already purchased the
rights to the content? Why are they complaining that we're getting a free
ride in the current conversion? Haven't the artists been complaining about
being ass-raped by these guys ever since Motown records, or before?

 

Okay, so piracy is illegal, a whole generation is getting stuff for free and
artists are losing out. But are they really? Are they artists that tour?
Because while my CD spend has all but dried up to a flaccid husk of its
previous self, my gig spend has at least compensated, probably moreso, esp
considering I have more disposable cash than when I was a destitute student
and buying CDs. And if it's a tough 5-10+ year transition into the digital
age.well if we do away with the record company tax / toll-booth that sits in
between artists and their audience - who cares? What did these guys do
anyway? Did they scout talent that now won't come to light? Ever heard of
the internet? If I can hear about fucking ThumbMan (which admittedly
brightened my life for a good 45 seconds), then I'm pretty sure I'll her
about the next Radiohead without Subpop telling me all about it. 

 

To me the main loss is the kids who are getting all this music for free and
therefore fail to appreciate what it's like to work a shit job and save up
for a few weeks to get the latest Led Zep or to flesh out their Sabbath
collection, walk home with a record burning a hole in their bag, and then
listen to it the whole way through while looking at the artwork and smoking
some oregano their mates sold them as hash and having the single best day of
their lives until the lose their virginity, but I digress..

 

People losing jobs isn't nice to see, but that's a whole different debate.

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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Fri Jan 30 10:31:39 2009
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 02:31:39 +1100
Subject: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks
In-Reply-To: <1CCCE0DD-DEDF-4E12-9051-CF6A1F04CDDC@earthlink.net>
References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC07236F@mr-pants.the-lab.local><2C4D2FE09C394CA890C0B53DC921966A@Soundgardener>
	<1CCCE0DD-DEDF-4E12-9051-CF6A1F04CDDC@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <91C55675271843398FCB63A6E5332647@Soundgardener>

Not a fair comparison.because? 

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Alexander Smith
Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 23:15
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

 

Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks was
capable of being. I love both, but it's not really a fair comparison. 

 

Alex in NYC

 

 

 

On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote:





Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots  

 

If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=?

 

Please show working.

 

  _____  

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of ade
Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;)

 

>From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's
transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is Denis
Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because there's no cure
for cancer"'

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
Sent: 29 January 2009 04:57
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

The only other comedians I'd put in that category (and none as good as
Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who's a surprising
find actually.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8

 

PS: I haven't watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but from memory
it's pretty cool.

 


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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Bette Dillinger
Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 


Hey everyone!
    Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it.  In the US
David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the routine
of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994 because it was
considered too "controversial".  The routine that sullied his relationship
with the media to a degree.  
 
His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of
the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make
this shit up.).........
Damn, it has been 14 years!  Are there any comedians that are flying under
the radar that should be checked out?  I am still looking for one whose
voice is so resonant with truth and humour.
 
Bette       


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From pmdavies at gmail.com  Fri Jan 30 10:37:59 2009
From: pmdavies at gmail.com (iPat)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:37:59 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales
In-Reply-To: <A3E7B0A3F24F4EEBA5DD3C2AA7690463@Soundgardener>
References: <A3E7B0A3F24F4EEBA5DD3C2AA7690463@Soundgardener>
Message-ID: <1646350c0901300737x148ca665l8f5396299d0174f@mail.gmail.com>

independent record shop i use is doing ok, sales were up post xmas but
november was bad.

On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:
> Do we have many people who work in the music industry on the list? I wanted
> to voice an opinion about the decline in CD sales.
>

From fatpotanga at gmail.com  Fri Jan 30 10:41:32 2009
From: fatpotanga at gmail.com (fatpotanga)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:41:32 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales
In-Reply-To: <A3E7B0A3F24F4EEBA5DD3C2AA7690463@Soundgardener>
References: <A3E7B0A3F24F4EEBA5DD3C2AA7690463@Soundgardener>
Message-ID: <0D613161-EED9-432A-9218-2D666FE0D669@gmail.com>

You mention gigs -  I can see it resulting in more vibrant live scene  
(with greater ticket prices to boot) & more self releases.
Maybe more of what NIN & radiohead did? Don't try & beat the downloads  
(coz you can't) by offering releases for free & offset that loss by  
ltd edition packages & more live work.
It's a loss initially, but it's also great initial self promotion
So, perhaps this is the dawn of the death of the record label, or at  
least the dawn of the death of what a record label is/does/works/ 
operates/at/am/under/fruit/gauze.
Yes, I'm probably talking bollocks, but they're my half formed, badly  
articulated off the top of my thumb-shaped head thoughts



On 30 Jan 2009, at 15:28, Brendan Quinn wrote:

> Do we have many people who work in the music industry on the list? I  
> wanted to voice an opinion about the decline in CD sales.
>
> I read these articles all the time, on tech sites and general news,  
> about the *terrible* decline in CD sales revenue and how it?s  
> affecting Sony and Time Warner and Geffen and all the other music  
> companies. And then I get into the comments section, and the thing  
> that strikes me is?people seem to take the problem seriously. But I  
> can?t really see a problem?
>
> Haven?t we all been bitching about record companies since the day  
> dot? Artists and consumers alike? Aren?t they the toll-booth between  
> legitimate artists and people who would benefit from their art?  
> Don?t they artificially ratchet up the prices to consumers and down  
> the prices to the artists, didn?t they charge more for CDs than  
> cassettes despite cassettes costing more to make (50% premium is the  
> price I remember paying in the late 80s / early 90s in NZ, $30+ vs  
> $20). Don?t they develop these shit Britney Spears and boy bands  
> that have no artistic merit whatsoever and pollute our youth with  
> mediocrity and perpetuate these negative stereotypes? Didn?t we have  
> to pay a small fortune to change the media format of our collections  
> from records or cassettes to CDs, despite having ? surely, already  
> purchased the rights to the content? Why are they complaining that  
> we?re getting a free ride in the current conversion? Haven?t the  
> artists been complaining about being ass-raped by these guys ever  
> since Motown records, or before?
>
> Okay, so piracy is illegal, a whole generation is getting stuff for  
> free and artists are losing out. But are they really? Are they  
> artists that tour? Because while my CD spend has all but dried up to  
> a flaccid husk of its previous self, my gig spend has at least  
> compensated, probably moreso, esp considering I have more disposable  
> cash than when I was a destitute student and buying CDs. And if it?s  
> a tough 5-10+ year transition into the digital age?well if we do  
> away with the record company tax / toll-booth that sits in between  
> artists and their audience ? who cares? What did these guys do  
> anyway? Did they scout talent that now won?t come to light? Ever  
> heard of the internet? If I can hear about fucking ThumbMan (which  
> admittedly brightened my life for a good 45 seconds), then I?m  
> pretty sure I?ll her about the next Radiohead without Subpop telling  
> me all about it.
>
> To me the main loss is the kids who are getting all this music for  
> free and therefore fail to appreciate what it?s like to work a shit  
> job and save up for a few weeks to get the latest Led Zep or to  
> flesh out their Sabbath collection, walk home with a record burning  
> a hole in their bag, and then listen to it the whole way through  
> while looking at the artwork and smoking some oregano their mates  
> sold them as hash and having the single best day of their lives  
> until the lose their virginity, but I digress?.
>
> People losing jobs isn?t nice to see, but that?s a whole different  
> debate.
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From Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk  Fri Jan 30 10:56:38 2009
From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk (Janean Lancaster)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:56:38 -0000
Subject: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales
Message-ID: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DACB@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal>

That pretty much sums up how I feel about it too.  I download in order
to hear stuff, and my favourites are bought on CD.  Only because I want
to be able to re-rip at higher bitrates as my hard drives/ipods increase
capacity.  I've not paid for very many downloads.  

 

I agree about missing the old days - sitting on a bus, poring over the
artwork of the goodies in your bag on the journey home from the shops.

 

I too spend much more on gigs.

 

If album downloads were lossless and included a nice PDF of
artwork/lyrics/credits/whathaveyou that you could print off to get stuck
into while listening to the music, I would be glad to see the back of
CDs.  And I would have so much more shelf space at home.

 

________________________________

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
Sent: 30 January 2009 15:28
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales

 

Do we have many people who work in the music industry on the list? I
wanted to voice an opinion about the decline in CD sales. 

 

I read these articles all the time, on tech sites and general news,
about the *terrible* decline in CD sales revenue and how it's affecting
Sony and Time Warner and Geffen and all the other music companies. And
then I get into the comments section, and the thing that strikes me
is...people seem to take the problem seriously. But I can't really see a
problem?

 

Haven't we all been bitching about record companies since the day dot?
Artists and consumers alike? Aren't they the toll-booth between
legitimate artists and people who would benefit from their art? Don't
they artificially ratchet up the prices to consumers and down the prices
to the artists, didn't they charge more for CDs than cassettes despite
cassettes costing more to make (50% premium is the price I remember
paying in the late 80s / early 90s in NZ, $30+ vs $20). Don't they
develop these shit Britney Spears and boy bands that have no artistic
merit whatsoever and pollute our youth with mediocrity and perpetuate
these negative stereotypes? Didn't we have to pay a small fortune to
change the media format of our collections from records or cassettes to
CDs, despite having - surely, already purchased the rights to the
content? Why are they complaining that we're getting a free ride in the
current conversion? Haven't the artists been complaining about being
ass-raped by these guys ever since Motown records, or before?

 

Okay, so piracy is illegal, a whole generation is getting stuff for free
and artists are losing out. But are they really? Are they artists that
tour? Because while my CD spend has all but dried up to a flaccid husk
of its previous self, my gig spend has at least compensated, probably
moreso, esp considering I have more disposable cash than when I was a
destitute student and buying CDs. And if it's a tough 5-10+ year
transition into the digital age...well if we do away with the record
company tax / toll-booth that sits in between artists and their audience
- who cares? What did these guys do anyway? Did they scout talent that
now won't come to light? Ever heard of the internet? If I can hear about
fucking ThumbMan (which admittedly brightened my life for a good 45
seconds), then I'm pretty sure I'll her about the next Radiohead without
Subpop telling me all about it. 

 

To me the main loss is the kids who are getting all this music for free
and therefore fail to appreciate what it's like to work a shit job and
save up for a few weeks to get the latest Led Zep or to flesh out their
Sabbath collection, walk home with a record burning a hole in their bag,
and then listen to it the whole way through while looking at the artwork
and smoking some oregano their mates sold them as hash and having the
single best day of their lives until the lose their virginity, but I
digress....

 

People losing jobs isn't nice to see, but that's a whole different
debate.

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From Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk  Fri Jan 30 10:59:26 2009
From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk (Janean Lancaster)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:59:26 -0000
Subject: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales
Message-ID: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DACC@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal>

I digressed a little there and didn't even mention the record companies.
Yeah - sod 'em.  Money-grabbing-middle-men.

 

________________________________

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of Janean Lancaster
Sent: 30 January 2009 15:57
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales

 

That pretty much sums up how I feel about it too.  I download in order
to hear stuff, and my favourites are bought on CD.  Only because I want
to be able to re-rip at higher bitrates as my hard drives/ipods increase
capacity.  I've not paid for very many downloads.  

 

I agree about missing the old days - sitting on a bus, poring over the
artwork of the goodies in your bag on the journey home from the shops.

 

I too spend much more on gigs.

 

If album downloads were lossless and included a nice PDF of
artwork/lyrics/credits/whathaveyou that you could print off to get stuck
into while listening to the music, I would be glad to see the back of
CDs.  And I would have so much more shelf space at home.

 

________________________________

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
Sent: 30 January 2009 15:28
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales

 

Do we have many people who work in the music industry on the list? I
wanted to voice an opinion about the decline in CD sales. 

 

I read these articles all the time, on tech sites and general news,
about the *terrible* decline in CD sales revenue and how it's affecting
Sony and Time Warner and Geffen and all the other music companies. And
then I get into the comments section, and the thing that strikes me
is...people seem to take the problem seriously. But I can't really see a
problem?

 

Haven't we all been bitching about record companies since the day dot?
Artists and consumers alike? Aren't they the toll-booth between
legitimate artists and people who would benefit from their art? Don't
they artificially ratchet up the prices to consumers and down the prices
to the artists, didn't they charge more for CDs than cassettes despite
cassettes costing more to make (50% premium is the price I remember
paying in the late 80s / early 90s in NZ, $30+ vs $20). Don't they
develop these shit Britney Spears and boy bands that have no artistic
merit whatsoever and pollute our youth with mediocrity and perpetuate
these negative stereotypes? Didn't we have to pay a small fortune to
change the media format of our collections from records or cassettes to
CDs, despite having - surely, already purchased the rights to the
content? Why are they complaining that we're getting a free ride in the
current conversion? Haven't the artists been complaining about being
ass-raped by these guys ever since Motown records, or before?

 

Okay, so piracy is illegal, a whole generation is getting stuff for free
and artists are losing out. But are they really? Are they artists that
tour? Because while my CD spend has all but dried up to a flaccid husk
of its previous self, my gig spend has at least compensated, probably
moreso, esp considering I have more disposable cash than when I was a
destitute student and buying CDs. And if it's a tough 5-10+ year
transition into the digital age...well if we do away with the record
company tax / toll-booth that sits in between artists and their audience
- who cares? What did these guys do anyway? Did they scout talent that
now won't come to light? Ever heard of the internet? If I can hear about
fucking ThumbMan (which admittedly brightened my life for a good 45
seconds), then I'm pretty sure I'll her about the next Radiohead without
Subpop telling me all about it. 

 

To me the main loss is the kids who are getting all this music for free
and therefore fail to appreciate what it's like to work a shit job and
save up for a few weeks to get the latest Led Zep or to flesh out their
Sabbath collection, walk home with a record burning a hole in their bag,
and then listen to it the whole way through while looking at the artwork
and smoking some oregano their mates sold them as hash and having the
single best day of their lives until the lose their virginity, but I
digress....

 

People losing jobs isn't nice to see, but that's a whole different
debate.

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From fluwdot at earthlink.net  Fri Jan 30 11:29:14 2009
From: fluwdot at earthlink.net (fluw)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:29:14 -0600
Subject: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks
In-Reply-To: <1CCCE0DD-DEDF-4E12-9051-CF6A1F04CDDC@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <E1LSwF3-0006jR-JR@elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Leary is so pedestrian, he has never said anything profound or clever. Most
of his schtick is being a grumpy amer-irish boy and saying things that
grumpy knuckle heads who buy too much coffee like to hear. His talent limits
him to a regional east coast niche.   

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Alexander Smith
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 6:15 AM
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

 

Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks was
capable of being. I love both, but it's not really a fair comparison. 

 

Alex in NYC

 

 

 

On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote:





Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots  

 

If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=?

 

Please show working.

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of ade
Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;)

 

>From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's
transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is Denis
Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because there's no cure
for cancer"'

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
Sent: 29 January 2009 04:57
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

The only other comedians I'd put in that category (and none as good as
Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who's a surprising
find actually.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8

 

PS: I haven't watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but from memory
it's pretty cool.

 


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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Bette Dillinger
Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 


Hey everyone!
    Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it.  In the US
David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the routine
of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994 because it was
considered too "controversial".  The routine that sullied his relationship
with the media to a degree.  
 
His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of
the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make
this shit up.).........
Damn, it has been 14 years!  Are there any comedians that are flying under
the radar that should be checked out?  I am still looking for one whose
voice is so resonant with truth and humour.
 
Bette       


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From a.madani at anirrationaldomain.net  Fri Jan 30 11:44:34 2009
From: a.madani at anirrationaldomain.net (a.madani at anirrationaldomain.net)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:44:34 -0600
Subject: [kj] grumpyoldsod
In-Reply-To: <19474.281.qm@web59809.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
References: <19474.281.qm@web59809.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <S375420AbZA3Qoe/20090130164434Z+18878@ams08.chi.affinity.com>


I wonder if that quote should really be attributed to Hitler: 

"The best way to take control over a people and control them
utterly is to take a little of their freedom at a time, to erode
rights by a thousand tiny and almost imperceptible
reductions. In this way the people will not see those rights
and freedoms being removed until past the point at which
these changes cannot be reversed." 

Sounds a lot like Dick Cheney to me - straight outta da Patriot Act. 


Kevin Richard writes: 

> Good read and a good laugh go to www.grumpyoldsod.com 
> 
>  
> 
>       
 

"The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in 
store." 


From jerry at fleamusic.com  Fri Jan 30 11:49:27 2009
From: jerry at fleamusic.com (Jerry Butson)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:49:27 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales
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Unstructured stream of consciousness:

I work in the music business (when they'll let me) and, whilst I don't have
any figures as to the supposed decline in CD (as opposed to any other
format) sales, it's not rocket science to suppose that this is the case.

The thing is the record companies used to have the monopoly on distribution.
With any decline in physical sales they'll have less stuff to ship which
will affect the people who sell it to the shops, make it, package it, design
it, print it, put it into boxes and take it to the shops. The major
companies still distribute their own physical product but they're
downsizing, but it's the companies that only do distribution that are
suffering (bye bye Pinnacle, EUK). Digital distribution isn't controlled by
the record companies so they can't lay a claim to it in the way they did
when they ran huge distribution companies.

If anyone is making huge profits from distributing digital music it ain't
the record cos. I just heard today that Amazon did amazin' business at Xmas.
That won't hurt the record cos (though I bet Amazon drive a hard deal) but
it will hurt the record retailer (bye bye Zavvi, who were caught nastily
between the closing door of declining high street sales and the frame of
their distributor, EUK, going bust).

But the big record cos are shrewd multi-national players and they won't go
down just like that, will they? They're very good at what they do, they just
have to find new ways to do it, so they're busy snapping up little companies
that have merchandising rights to print t-shirts et al and look at buying up
rights to sell things that still make money.

The thing is that the predicament the record companies find themselves in
will actually make things worse for anyone who's not into mass-market rock
and manufactured pop. these companies won't just give up. Like in say
they're very good at what they do and it's easy to say bye bye to their
bottom rung of loss-making guitar bands whilst hyping up Sugababes and
X-factor winners to an ever eager army of TV fans, courtesy of the
ever-hungry media who love a good rags to riches story.

So more records/downloads/whatever by fewer singers get sold to more people.
They won't just give up.

Where this leaves OUR kind of music is questionable. On the one hand the
bands of today have unprecedented levels of control over their own marketing
and distribution, gaining support virally from networking sites, underage
gigs and P2P sites. On the other hand no one's going to take a chance on
them unless they've already shown they've got what it takes. The musician of
today not only has to be a musician but also a business (wo)man and we get
bombarded by more and more mediocre bands who know how to design a web site.

So the record company of yesteryear (while they chose who they were going to
promote and ultimately who we were going to listen to) had a purpose in that
they allowed musicians to be musicians without having to worry about the
other stuff, gave them a load of money (that had to be paid back in the same
way as a student loan) and said to them "go and do what you do best".

I don't care where the music comes from, I just love music. But the business
is/was my livelihood so I have a vested interest in it continuing.

Anyone still awake?

jerry (the other one)

2009/1/30 Janean Lancaster <Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk>

>  I digressed a little there and didn't even mention the record companies.
> Yeah ? sod 'em.  Money-grabbing-middle-men.
>
>
>   ------------------------------
>
> *From:* gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
> *On Behalf Of *Janean Lancaster
> *Sent:* 30 January 2009 15:57
> *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> *Subject:* Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales
>
>
>
> That pretty much sums up how I feel about it too.  I download in order to
> hear stuff, and my favourites are bought on CD.  Only because I want to be
> able to re-rip at higher bitrates as my hard drives/ipods increase
> capacity.  I've not paid for very many downloads.
>
>
>
> I agree about missing the old days - sitting on a bus, poring over the
> artwork of the goodies in your bag on the journey home from the shops.
>
>
>
> I too spend much more on gigs.
>
>
>
> If album downloads were lossless and included a nice PDF of
> artwork/lyrics/credits/whathaveyou that you could print off to get stuck
> into while listening to the music, I would be glad to see the back of CDs.
> And I would have so much more shelf space at home.
>
>
>   ------------------------------
>
> *From:* gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
> *On Behalf Of *Brendan Quinn
> *Sent:* 30 January 2009 15:28
> *To:* 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
> *Subject:* [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales
>
>
>
> Do we have many people who work in the music industry on the list? I wanted
> to voice an opinion about the decline in CD sales.
>
>
>
> I read these articles all the time, on tech sites and general news, about
> the **terrible** decline in CD sales revenue and how it's affecting Sony
> and Time Warner and Geffen and all the other music companies. And then I get
> into the comments section, and the thing that strikes me is?people seem to
> take the problem seriously. But I can't really see a problem?
>
>
>
> Haven't we all been bitching about record companies since the day dot?
> Artists and consumers alike? Aren't they the toll-booth between legitimate
> artists and people who would benefit from their art? Don't they artificially
> ratchet up the prices to consumers and down the prices to the artists,
> didn't they charge more for CDs than cassettes despite cassettes costing
> more to make (50% premium is the price I remember paying in the late 80s /
> early 90s in NZ, $30+ vs $20). Don't they develop these shit Britney Spears
> and boy bands that have no artistic merit whatsoever and pollute our youth
> with mediocrity and perpetuate these negative stereotypes? Didn't we have to
> pay a small fortune to change the media format of our collections from
> records or cassettes to CDs, despite having ? surely, already purchased the
> rights to the content? Why are they complaining that we're getting a free
> ride in the current conversion? Haven't the artists been complaining about
> being ass-raped by these guys ever since Motown records, or before?
>
>
>
> Okay, so piracy is illegal, a whole generation is getting stuff for free
> and artists are losing out. But are they really? Are they artists that tour?
> Because while my CD spend has all but dried up to a flaccid husk of its
> previous self, my gig spend has at least compensated, probably moreso, esp
> considering I have more disposable cash than when I was a destitute student
> and buying CDs. And if it's a tough 5-10+ year transition into the digital
> age?well if we do away with the record company tax / toll-booth that sits in
> between artists and their audience ? who cares? What did these guys do
> anyway? Did they scout talent that now won't come to light? Ever heard of
> the internet? If I can hear about fucking ThumbMan (which admittedly
> brightened my life for a good 45 seconds), then I'm pretty sure I'll her
> about the next Radiohead without Subpop telling me all about it.
>
>
>
> To me the main loss is the kids who are getting all this music for free and
> therefore fail to appreciate what it's like to work a shit job and save up
> for a few weeks to get the latest Led Zep or to flesh out their Sabbath
> collection, walk home with a record burning a hole in their bag, and then
> listen to it the whole way through while looking at the artwork and smoking
> some oregano their mates sold them as hash and having the single best day of
> their lives until the lose their virginity, but I digress?.
>
>
>
> People losing jobs isn't nice to see, but that's a whole different debate.
>
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From joker at Z6.com  Fri Jan 30 11:51:47 2009
From: joker at Z6.com (Rob's Arse)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:51:47 -0800
Subject: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales
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From pmdavies at gmail.com  Fri Jan 30 12:16:34 2009
From: pmdavies at gmail.com (iPat)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:16:34 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales
In-Reply-To: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DACB@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal>
References: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DACB@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal>
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sales of vinyl are on the up in the local independent
does that equate with MD Rob?

strange that people are downloading and filling gadgets with low
quality dross but stepping back at home to better quality i selective
products.

I downloaded Madness new release - due out in March - at xmas time,
paying for it to also arrive by cd, vinyl membership box in a months
time.

Listening to the Guardians music monthly editor on Mayo - radio 5 on
tuesday i think, he said bands like Keane and what is known as
landfill indie is dying a death and pointed to the internet generation
not having loyalty built in. Meanwhile the pre internet bands have
huge loyalty followings and Springsteens album sales will probably
indicate that.

On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Janean Lancaster
<Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk> wrote:

> I agree about missing the old days - sitting on a bus, poring over the
> artwork of the goodies in your bag on the journey home from the shops.

From vassifer at earthlink.net  Fri Jan 30 11:59:03 2009
From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alex Smith)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:59:03 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks
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From fluke1 at live.co.uk  Fri Jan 30 12:23:34 2009
From: fluke1 at live.co.uk (fluke fluke)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:23:34 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales
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References: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232DACB@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal>
Message-ID: <BLU108-W31D934418DBD7C82C5E2AEBEC60@phx.gbl>


"I agree about missing the old days - sitting
on a bus, poring over the artwork of the goodies in your bag on the journey
home from the shops."

   I have some good news for you Janean. Buses still run. Shops still sell C.D.sThere is nothing to stop you jumping on a bus, buying a C.D. and then looking at it on the bus on the way home, theres nothing at all to stop you doing that .
   There's no need to miss the old days .



Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:56:38 +0000
From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales






















That pretty much sums up how I feel about
it too.  I download in order to hear stuff, and my favourites are bought on CD. 
Only because I want to be able to re-rip at higher bitrates as my hard drives/ipods
increase capacity.  I?ve not paid for very many downloads.  

 

I agree about missing the old days - sitting
on a bus, poring over the artwork of the goodies in your bag on the journey
home from the shops.

 

I too spend much more on gigs.

 

If album downloads were lossless and included
a nice PDF of artwork/lyrics/credits/whathaveyou that you could print off to get
stuck into while listening to the music, I would be glad to see the back of CDs. 
And I would have so much more shelf space at home.

 











From:
gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn

Sent: 30 January 2009 15:28

To: 'A
 list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'

Subject: [kj] OT: Music industry -
decline in CD sales



 

Do we have many people who work in the music industry
on the list? I wanted to voice an opinion about the decline in CD sales. 

 

I read these articles all the time, on tech sites and
general news, about the *terrible*
decline in CD sales revenue and how it?s affecting Sony and Time Warner
and Geffen and all the other music companies. And then I get into the comments
section, and the thing that strikes me is?people seem to take the problem
seriously. But I can?t really see a problem?

 

Haven?t we all been bitching about record
companies since the day dot? Artists and consumers alike? Aren?t they the
toll-booth between legitimate artists and people who would benefit from their
art? Don?t they artificially ratchet up the prices to consumers and down
the prices to the artists, didn?t they charge more for CDs than cassettes
despite cassettes costing more to make (50% premium is the price I remember
paying in the late 80s / early 90s in NZ, $30+ vs $20). Don?t they develop
these shit Britney Spears and boy bands that have no artistic merit whatsoever
and pollute our youth with mediocrity and perpetuate these negative
stereotypes? Didn?t we have to pay a small fortune to change the media
format of our collections from records or cassettes to CDs, despite having
? surely, already purchased the rights to the content? Why are they
complaining that we?re getting a free ride in the current conversion?
Haven?t the artists been complaining about being ass-raped by these guys
ever since Motown records, or before?

 

Okay, so piracy is illegal, a whole generation is
getting stuff for free and artists are losing out. But are they really? Are
they artists that tour? Because while my CD spend has all but dried up to a
flaccid husk of its previous self, my gig spend has at least compensated,
probably moreso, esp considering I have more disposable cash than when I was a
destitute student and buying CDs. And if it?s a tough 5-10+ year
transition into the digital age?well if we do away with the record
company tax / toll-booth that sits in between artists and their audience
? who cares? What did these guys do anyway? Did they scout talent that
now won?t come to light? Ever heard of the internet? If I can hear about
fucking ThumbMan (which admittedly brightened my life for a good 45 seconds),
then I?m pretty sure I?ll her about the next Radiohead without
Subpop telling me all about it. 

 

To me the main loss is the kids who are getting all this
music for free and therefore fail to appreciate what it?s like to work a
shit job and save up for a few weeks to get the latest Led Zep or to flesh out
their Sabbath collection, walk home with a record burning a hole in their bag,
and then listen to it the whole way through while looking at the artwork and
smoking some oregano their mates sold them as hash and having the single best
day of their lives until the lose their virginity, but I digress?.

 

People losing jobs isn?t nice to see, but
that?s a whole different debate.




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From sneakypete at uwclub.net  Fri Jan 30 12:25:35 2009
From: sneakypete at uwclub.net (Peter Moltesen)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:25:35 -0000
Subject: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales
In-Reply-To: <1646350c0901300916q409a968em57df5d55923dcc00@mail.gmail.com>
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>Listening to the Guardians music monthly editor on Mayo - radio 5 on
>tuesday i think, he said bands like Keane and what is known as
>landfill indie is dying a death and pointed to the internet generation
>not having loyalty built in. 

Landfill Indie :o)))))))))
heh !! 

Peter


From fluke1 at live.co.uk  Fri Jan 30 12:37:04 2009
From: fluke1 at live.co.uk (fluke fluke)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:37:04 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales
In-Reply-To: <A3E7B0A3F24F4EEBA5DD3C2AA7690463@Soundgardener>
References: <A3E7B0A3F24F4EEBA5DD3C2AA7690463@Soundgardener>
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Music is in decline , and it has been so for number of years. Everything has been done, there is nothing new to do .,There is no original music left to make , every "new"song is a regurgitation of another song . Music has had its day, its time for it to die.I dont have a problem with that , because I do like peace and quiet nowadays





From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 02:28:05 +1100
Subject: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales
















Do we have many people who work in the music industry
on the list? I wanted to voice an opinion about the decline in CD sales. 

 

I read these articles all the time, on tech sites and
general news, about the *terrible*
decline in CD sales revenue and how it?s affecting Sony and Time Warner
and Geffen and all the other music companies. And then I get into the comments
section, and the thing that strikes me is?people seem to take the problem
seriously. But I can?t really see a problem?

 

Haven?t we all been bitching about record
companies since the day dot? ArArens and consumers alike? Aren?t they the
toll-booth between legitimate artists and people who would benefit from their
art? Don?t they artificially ratchet up the prices to consumers and down
didnprices to the artists, didnCDs?t they charge more for CDs than cassettes
despite cassettes costing more to make (50% premium is the price I remember
paying in the late 80s / early 90s in NZ, $30+ vs $20). Don?t they develop
these shit Britney Spears and boy bands that have no artistic merit whatsoever
and pollute our youth with mediocrity and perpetuatDidnese negative stereotypes?
Didn?t we have to pay a small fortune to change the media format of our
collectionsCDsom records or cassettes to CDs, despite having ? surely,
already purchased the rights to the content? Why are they complaining that we?re
getting a free ride in the current conversion? Haven?t the artists been
complaining about being ass-raped by these guys ever since Motown records, or before?

 

Okay, so piracy is illegal, a whole generation is
getting stuff for free and artists are losing out. But are they really? Are
they artists that tour? Because while my CD spend has all but dried up to a
flaccid husk of its previous self, my gig spend has amoresot compensated,
probably moreso, esp considering I have more disposable cash than when I was aCDsstitute student and buying CDs. And if it?s a tough 5-10+ year
transition into the digital age?well if we do away with the record
company tax / toll-booth that sits in between artists and their audience ?
who cares? What did these guys do anyway? Did they scout talent that now won?t
cominternetht? Ever heard of the internetThumbManan hear about fucking ThumbMan
(which admittedly brightened my life for a good 45 seconds), then I?m
prettyRadioheadl her aboSubpop next Radiohead without Subpop telling me
all about it. 

 

To me the main loss is the kids who are getting all
this music for free and therefore fail to appreciate what it?s like to work
a shit job and save up for a feZepeeks to get the latest Led Zep or to flesh
out their Sabbath collection, walk home with a record burning a hole in their
bag, and then listen to it the whole way through while looking at the artwork and
smoking some oregano their mates sold them as hash and having the single best
day of their lives until the lose their virginity, but I digreisn.

 

People losing jobs isn?t nice to see, but that?s
a whole different debate.


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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Fri Jan 30 12:46:05 2009
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 04:46:05 +1100
Subject: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks
In-Reply-To: <23269250.1233334744433.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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We were comparing them because they covered similar material, that I'm
pretty sure Hicks came up with and Leary stole. Specifically the voicebox
gag. I could be wrong, but that's the accusation.

 

  _____  

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Alex Smith
Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 03:59
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about all
things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

You seem to be equating them merely on the fact that they're both "angry"
comedians. That's not much to go on. I mean, why not toss Don Rickles into
the mix too, then?

Alex in NYC



-----Original Message----- 
From: Brendan Quinn 
Sent: Jan 30, 2009 10:31 AM 
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" 
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks 




Not a fair comparison.because? 

 


  _____  


From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Alexander Smith
Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 23:15
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

 

Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks was
capable of being. I love both, but it's not really a fair comparison. 

 

Alex in NYC

 

 

 

On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote:








Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots  

 

If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=?

 

Please show working.

 


  _____  


From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of ade
Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;)

 

>From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's
transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is Denis
Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because there's no cure
for cancer"'

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
Sent: 29 January 2009 04:57
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

The only other comedians I'd put in that category (and none as good as
Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who's a surprising
find actually.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8

 

PS: I haven't watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but from memory
it's pretty cool.

 


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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Bette Dillinger
Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 


Hey everyone!
    Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it.  In the US
David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the routine
of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994 because it was
considered too "controversial".  The routine that sullied his relationship
with the media to a degree.  
 
His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of
the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make
this shit up.).........
Damn, it has been 14 years!  Are there any comedians that are flying under
the radar that should be checked out?  I am still looking for one whose
voice is so resonant with truth and humour.
 
Bette       


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From bbarathy at btinternet.com  Fri Jan 30 12:55:31 2009
From: bbarathy at btinternet.com (Bob Barathy)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:55:31 -0000
Subject: [kj] Jungle Jaz
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when he should be recording a new KJ album! Grrrrr

boBToo
www.killingjoke.co.uk
www.teamkinetic.co.uk
www.bobtoo.co.uk
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  From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Rob's Arse
  Sent: 30 January 2009 12:18
  To: Gathering
  Subject: [kj] Jungle Jaz




  Looks like he's off to Venezuela then!

  http://www.nme.com/news/mongrel/42425   (see the bottom)



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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Fri Jan 30 12:56:32 2009
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 04:56:32 +1100
Subject: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales
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It seems to me like we're in a kind of limbo state, artists are either shy
of releasing new stuff until they are confident about how / which medium to
do it on, either that of they have all gone to shit. Jaz pointed out in that
NZ interview that Reznor has a good model for making money, with high priced
collectable stuff for a smaller amount of fans.but I can't see that working
as well for newer bands as opposed to established acts. Mind you most decent
bands these days seem to be the 70 / 80s / 90s bands still going or reformed
anyway.

 

And I'd prefer to see distribution going local / decentralised as opposed to
getting centralised through the likes of Amazon and the big supermarkets.
The idea of buying a CD in a supermarket.ugh. Feels totally wrong.

  _____  

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Jerry Butson
Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 03:49
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales

 

Unstructured stream of consciousness:

I work in the music business (when they'll let me) and, whilst I don't have
any figures as to the supposed decline in CD (as opposed to any other
format) sales, it's not rocket science to suppose that this is the case.

The thing is the record companies used to have the monopoly on distribution.
With any decline in physical sales they'll have less stuff to ship which
will affect the people who sell it to the shops, make it, package it, design
it, print it, put it into boxes and take it to the shops. The major
companies still distribute their own physical product but they're
downsizing, but it's the companies that only do distribution that are
suffering (bye bye Pinnacle, EUK). Digital distribution isn't controlled by
the record companies so they can't lay a claim to it in the way they did
when they ran huge distribution companies.

If anyone is making huge profits from distributing digital music it ain't
the record cos. I just heard today that Amazon did amazin' business at Xmas.
That won't hurt the record cos (though I bet Amazon drive a hard deal) but
it will hurt the record retailer (bye bye Zavvi, who were caught nastily
between the closing door of declining high street sales and the frame of
their distributor, EUK, going bust).

But the big record cos are shrewd multi-national players and they won't go
down just like that, will they? They're very good at what they do, they just
have to find new ways to do it, so they're busy snapping up little companies
that have merchandising rights to print t-shirts et al and look at buying up
rights to sell things that still make money.

The thing is that the predicament the record companies find themselves in
will actually make things worse for anyone who's not into mass-market rock
and manufactured pop. these companies won't just give up. Like in say
they're very good at what they do and it's easy to say bye bye to their
bottom rung of loss-making guitar bands whilst hyping up Sugababes and
X-factor winners to an ever eager army of TV fans, courtesy of the
ever-hungry media who love a good rags to riches story.

So more records/downloads/whatever by fewer singers get sold to more people.
They won't just give up.

Where this leaves OUR kind of music is questionable. On the one hand the
bands of today have unprecedented levels of control over their own marketing
and distribution, gaining support virally from networking sites, underage
gigs and P2P sites. On the other hand no one's going to take a chance on
them unless they've already shown they've got what it takes. The musician of
today not only has to be a musician but also a business (wo)man and we get
bombarded by more and more mediocre bands who know how to design a web site.

So the record company of yesteryear (while they chose who they were going to
promote and ultimately who we were going to listen to) had a purpose in that
they allowed musicians to be musicians without having to worry about the
other stuff, gave them a load of money (that had to be paid back in the same
way as a student loan) and said to them "go and do what you do best".

I don't care where the music comes from, I just love music. But the business
is/was my livelihood so I have a vested interest in it continuing.

Anyone still awake?

jerry (the other one)

 

2009/1/30 Janean Lancaster <Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk>

I digressed a little there and didn't even mention the record companies.
Yeah - sod 'em.  Money-grabbing-middle-men.

 

  _____  

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Janean Lancaster
Sent: 30 January 2009 15:57 


To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales 

 

That pretty much sums up how I feel about it too.  I download in order to
hear stuff, and my favourites are bought on CD.  Only because I want to be
able to re-rip at higher bitrates as my hard drives/ipods increase capacity.
I've not paid for very many downloads.  

 

I agree about missing the old days - sitting on a bus, poring over the
artwork of the goodies in your bag on the journey home from the shops.

 

I too spend much more on gigs.

 

If album downloads were lossless and included a nice PDF of
artwork/lyrics/credits/whathaveyou that you could print off to get stuck
into while listening to the music, I would be glad to see the back of CDs.
And I would have so much more shelf space at home.

 

  _____  

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
Sent: 30 January 2009 15:28
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales

 

Do we have many people who work in the music industry on the list? I wanted
to voice an opinion about the decline in CD sales. 

 

I read these articles all the time, on tech sites and general news, about
the *terrible* decline in CD sales revenue and how it's affecting Sony and
Time Warner and Geffen and all the other music companies. And then I get
into the comments section, and the thing that strikes me is.people seem to
take the problem seriously. But I can't really see a problem?

 

Haven't we all been bitching about record companies since the day dot?
Artists and consumers alike? Aren't they the toll-booth between legitimate
artists and people who would benefit from their art? Don't they artificially
ratchet up the prices to consumers and down the prices to the artists,
didn't they charge more for CDs than cassettes despite cassettes costing
more to make (50% premium is the price I remember paying in the late 80s /
early 90s in NZ, $30+ vs $20). Don't they develop these shit Britney Spears
and boy bands that have no artistic merit whatsoever and pollute our youth
with mediocrity and perpetuate these negative stereotypes? Didn't we have to
pay a small fortune to change the media format of our collections from
records or cassettes to CDs, despite having - surely, already purchased the
rights to the content? Why are they complaining that we're getting a free
ride in the current conversion? Haven't the artists been complaining about
being ass-raped by these guys ever since Motown records, or before?

 

Okay, so piracy is illegal, a whole generation is getting stuff for free and
artists are losing out. But are they really? Are they artists that tour?
Because while my CD spend has all but dried up to a flaccid husk of its
previous self, my gig spend has at least compensated, probably moreso, esp
considering I have more disposable cash than when I was a destitute student
and buying CDs. And if it's a tough 5-10+ year transition into the digital
age.well if we do away with the record company tax / toll-booth that sits in
between artists and their audience - who cares? What did these guys do
anyway? Did they scout talent that now won't come to light? Ever heard of
the internet? If I can hear about fucking ThumbMan (which admittedly
brightened my life for a good 45 seconds), then I'm pretty sure I'll her
about the next Radiohead without Subpop telling me all about it. 

 

To me the main loss is the kids who are getting all this music for free and
therefore fail to appreciate what it's like to work a shit job and save up
for a few weeks to get the latest Led Zep or to flesh out their Sabbath
collection, walk home with a record burning a hole in their bag, and then
listen to it the whole way through while looking at the artwork and smoking
some oregano their mates sold them as hash and having the single best day of
their lives until the lose their virginity, but I digress..

 

People losing jobs isn't nice to see, but that's a whole different debate.


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From fluwdot at earthlink.net  Fri Jan 30 12:49:48 2009
From: fluwdot at earthlink.net (fluw)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:49:48 -0600
Subject: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks
In-Reply-To: <23269250.1233334744433.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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Or andrew dice clay, who is what I see leary being;.demonstrative, lowest
common denominator material. 

 

  _____  

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Alex Smith
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 10:59 AM
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about all
things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

You seem to be equating them merely on the fact that they're both "angry"
comedians. That's not much to go on. I mean, why not toss Don Rickles into
the mix too, then?

Alex in NYC



-----Original Message----- 
From: Brendan Quinn 
Sent: Jan 30, 2009 10:31 AM 
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" 
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks 




Not a fair comparison.because? 

 


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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Alexander Smith
Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 23:15
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

 

Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks was
capable of being. I love both, but it's not really a fair comparison. 

 

Alex in NYC

 

 

 

On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote:








Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots  

 

If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=?

 

Please show working.

 


  _____  


From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of ade
Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;)

 

>From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's
transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is Denis
Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because there's no cure
for cancer"'

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
Sent: 29 January 2009 04:57
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

The only other comedians I'd put in that category (and none as good as
Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who's a surprising
find actually.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8

 

PS: I haven't watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but from memory
it's pretty cool.

 


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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Bette Dillinger
Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 


Hey everyone!
    Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it.  In the US
David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the routine
of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994 because it was
considered too "controversial".  The routine that sullied his relationship
with the media to a degree.  
 
His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of
the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make
this shit up.).........
Damn, it has been 14 years!  Are there any comedians that are flying under
the radar that should be checked out?  I am still looking for one whose
voice is so resonant with truth and humour.
 
Bette       


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From fluke1 at live.co.uk  Fri Jan 30 13:10:52 2009
From: fluke1 at live.co.uk (fluke fluke)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:10:52 +0000
Subject: [kj] Jungle Jaz
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He may be going there to record it or look for a backing singer or to find  some weird instuments to use on the album


From: bbarathy at btinternet.com
To: joker at Z6.com; gathering at misera.net
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:55:31 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] Jungle Jaz








when 
he should be recording a new KJ album! Grrrrr
 
boBToo
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www.teamkinetic.co.uk
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  [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Rob's 
  Arse
Sent: 30 January 2009 12:18
To: 
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Subject: [kj] Jungle Jaz


  

Looks 
  like he's off to Venezuela 
  then!

http://www.nme.com/news/mongrel/42425   (see the 
  bottom)



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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Fri Jan 30 13:13:24 2009
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 05:13:24 +1100
Subject: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales
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"Meanwhile the pre internet bands have
huge loyalty followings and Springsteens album sales will probably
indicate that."

That's kinda what I've found too, it makes sense and gives me a little bit
of inspiration about the current generation (y or z or whatever.) My little
brother - 19 - is independently into Iron Maiden and Megadeath and Pearl
Jam, who in relative terms are previous generation stuff. I think some of
those bands loom huge in the minds of 'kids these days', those who are
really into good music, in the same way that bands like Led Zep, Hendrix,
CCR, The Beatles etc had a pretty awesome aura that outshined a lot of
current bands when I was growing up. Not that it was hard to outshine
Madonna and Wilson Phillips and the synth theme from Miami Vice, admittedly
;)

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of iPat
Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 04:17
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales

sales of vinyl are on the up in the local independent
does that equate with MD Rob?

strange that people are downloading and filling gadgets with low
quality dross but stepping back at home to better quality i selective
products.

I downloaded Madness new release - due out in March - at xmas time,
paying for it to also arrive by cd, vinyl membership box in a months
time.

Listening to the Guardians music monthly editor on Mayo - radio 5 on
tuesday i think, he said bands like Keane and what is known as
landfill indie is dying a death and pointed to the internet generation
not having loyalty built in. Meanwhile the pre internet bands have
huge loyalty followings and Springsteens album sales will probably
indicate that.

On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Janean Lancaster
<Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk> wrote:

> I agree about missing the old days - sitting on a bus, poring over the
> artwork of the goodies in your bag on the journey home from the shops.
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From vassifer at earthlink.net  Fri Jan 30 13:38:23 2009
From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alex Smith)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:38:23 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks
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From jelbod at hotmail.co.uk  Fri Jan 30 13:47:02 2009
From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk (jerry bodkin)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:47:02 +0000
Subject: [kj] Jungle Jaz
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Apparently the best things come to those who wait, let's face it, as Joker's we are used to The Wait. Would KJ be as they are without the turmoil, the seeming indecision, the arguments, the frustration. We are a very lucky few in my eyes, to have a band who, yes it is true, drive us insane at times but, they are still going and motivating us, rousing us and generally reminding us of who we are and what we believe in. I for one can stand the hibernation periods, because i know Spring is just around the corner.
 
Have faith always, walk towards the New Day.
 
Jelski.



From: fluke1 at live.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:10:52 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] Jungle Jaz

He may be going there to record it or look for a backing singer or to find  some weird instuments to use on the album



From: bbarathy at btinternet.comTo: joker at Z6.com; gathering at misera.netDate: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:55:31 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] Jungle Jaz
when he should be recording a new KJ album! Grrrrr
 
boBToo
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www.teamkinetic.co.uk
www.bobtoo.co.uk

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From folk.devil at hotmail.com  Fri Jan 30 14:00:41 2009
From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:00:41 -0800
Subject: [kj] Jungle Jaz
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I question this, actually.
The last tour seemed a bit 'final' to me.



From: jelbod at hotmail.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:47:02 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] Jungle Jaz

  they are still going and motivating us, rousing us and generally reminding us of who we are and what we believe in. I for one can stand the hibernation periods, because i know Spring is just around the corner. Have faith always, walk towards the New Day. Jelski.




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From jelbod at hotmail.co.uk  Fri Jan 30 14:07:03 2009
From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk (jerry bodkin)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:07:03 +0000
Subject: [kj] Jungle Jaz
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 Iv'e felt like that quite a few times then been pleasantly suprised. 1982 i think i first felt that vibe, Iceland etc.
 Keep the faith brother.
 
 Jelly



From: folk.devil at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:00:41 -0800Subject: Re: [kj] Jungle Jaz

I question this, actually.The last tour seemed a bit 'final' to me.



From: jelbod at hotmail.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:47:02 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] Jungle Jaz

 they are still going and motivating us, rousing us and generally reminding us of who we are and what we believe in. I for one can stand the hibernation periods, because i know Spring is just around the corner. Have faith always, walk towards the New Day. Jelski.







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From powens at gmail.com  Fri Jan 30 14:10:47 2009
From: powens at gmail.com (powens)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:10:47 +0000
Subject: [kj] [OT] I've started so I'll finish....
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UK Gatherer's. Tonight on BBC2 at 7.30 one of the contestants specialist
subject is "British Punk". See how you do...

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From wessidetempest at hotmail.com  Fri Jan 30 14:53:21 2009
From: wessidetempest at hotmail.com (Christof hamille)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:53:21 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks
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The argument that Leary ripped of Hicks has been on going for a looong time.  There is a story that Leary didn't even start doing the smoking bitter gag until Hicks was dead.  And there was something dodgy about Leary and HIcks death (as far as comments or something).  Honestly I cannot be bothered.  I follow the comedian world pretty regularly and so much time has passed that it's almost a moot point.  Bill Hicks, who I think is excellent, is certainly not the first to be a venomous comedian that used smoking as part of the schtick.  He certainly took it up a notch.

When comedians die unexpectedly fans put them into some sort of stratosphere that is not always realistic.

Chris

Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:38:23 -0500
From: vassifer at earthlink.net
To: gathering at misera.net; gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks








The perils and ramifications of smoking aren't really "niche" material. You may not like Dennis Leary -- fair enough -- but to accuse him of ripping off Hicks in that capacity is pretty unfair.
Alex in NYC



-----Original Message----- 
From: Brendan Quinn 
Sent: Jan 30, 2009 12:46 PM 
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" 
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks 









We were comparing them because they covered similar material, that I?m pretty sure Hicks came up with and Leary stole. Specifically the voicebox gag. I could be wrong, but that?s the accusation.
 




From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alex Smith
Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 03:59
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
 
You seem to be equating them merely on the fact that they're both "angry" comedians. That's not much to go on. I mean, why not toss Don Rickles into the mix too, then?
Alex in NYC



-----Original Message----- 
From: Brendan Quinn 
Sent: Jan 30, 2009 10:31 AM 
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" 
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks 



Not a fair comparison?because? 
 




From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexander Smith
Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 23:15
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
 

 

Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks was capable of being. I love both, but it's not really a fair comparison. 

 

Alex in NYC

 

 
 


On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote:







Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots  

 

If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=?

 

Please show working.

 





From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade
Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 


LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;)


 


>From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is Denis Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because there's no cure for cancer"'


-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
Sent: 29 January 2009 04:57
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

The only other comedians I?d put in that category (and none as good as Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who?s a surprising find actually.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8

 

PS: I haven?t watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but from memory it?s pretty cool.

 





From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Bette Dillinger
Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 


Hey everyone!
    Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it.  In the US David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the routine of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994 because it was considered too "controversial".  The routine that sullied his relationship with the media to a degree.  
 
His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make this shit up.).........
Damn, it has been 14 years!  Are there any comedians that are flying under the radar that should be checked out?  I am still looking for one whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour.
 
Bette       



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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Fri Jan 30 14:53:08 2009
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 06:53:08 +1100
Subject: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks
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Well, unfair in your opinion, I beg to differ based on how I see it:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Hicks#Allegations_of_plagiarism_towards_De
nis_Leary

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE4sK_yYtGQ

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Alex Smith
Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 05:38
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about all
things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

The perils and ramifications of smoking aren't really "niche" material. You
may not like Dennis Leary -- fair enough -- but to accuse him of ripping off
Hicks in that capacity is pretty unfair.

Alex in NYC



-----Original Message----- 
From: Brendan Quinn 
Sent: Jan 30, 2009 12:46 PM 
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" 
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks 




We were comparing them because they covered similar material, that I'm
pretty sure Hicks came up with and Leary stole. Specifically the voicebox
gag. I could be wrong, but that's the accusation.

 


  _____  


From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Alex Smith
Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 03:59
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about all
things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

You seem to be equating them merely on the fact that they're both "angry"
comedians. That's not much to go on. I mean, why not toss Don Rickles into
the mix too, then?

Alex in NYC




-----Original Message----- 
From: Brendan Quinn 
Sent: Jan 30, 2009 10:31 AM 
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" 
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks 





Not a fair comparison.because? 

 


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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Alexander Smith
Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 23:15
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

 

Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks was
capable of being. I love both, but it's not really a fair comparison. 

 

Alex in NYC

 

 

 

On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote:









Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots  

 

If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=?

 

Please show working.

 


  _____  


From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of ade
Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;)

 

>From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's
transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is Denis
Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because there's no cure
for cancer"'

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
Sent: 29 January 2009 04:57
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

The only other comedians I'd put in that category (and none as good as
Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who's a surprising
find actually.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8

 

PS: I haven't watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but from memory
it's pretty cool.

 


  _____  


From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Bette Dillinger
Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 


Hey everyone!
    Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it.  In the US
David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the routine
of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994 because it was
considered too "controversial".  The routine that sullied his relationship
with the media to a degree.  
 
His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of
the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make
this shit up.).........
Damn, it has been 14 years!  Are there any comedians that are flying under
the radar that should be checked out?  I am still looking for one whose
voice is so resonant with truth and humour.
 
Bette       


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From fluke1 at live.co.uk  Fri Jan 30 15:01:50 2009
From: fluke1 at live.co.uk (fluke fluke)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:01:50 +0000
Subject: [kj] [OT] I've started so I'll finish....
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I got the "walking in the air" one , right



Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:10:47 +0000
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To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] [OT] I've started so I'll finish....

UK Gatherer's. Tonight on BBC2 at 7.30 one of the contestants specialist subject is "British Punk". See how you do...

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From vassifer at earthlink.net  Fri Jan 30 15:04:19 2009
From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alex Smith)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:04:19 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks
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From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk  Fri Jan 30 15:25:32 2009
From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:25:32 -0000
Subject: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks
Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072372@mr-pants.the-lab.local>

Erm, I don't think you get it. You don't have to tell me that. Oh & I like STP, much better than Soundgarden, thanks!

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
Sent: 30 January 2009 06:34
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks



Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots  

 

If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=?

 

Please show working.

 


  _____  


From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade
Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;)

 

>From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is Denis Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because there's no cure for cancer"'

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
Sent: 29 January 2009 04:57
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

The only other comedians I'd put in that category (and none as good as Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who's a surprising find actually.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8

 

PS: I haven't watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but from memory it's pretty cool.

 


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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Bette Dillinger
Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 


Hey everyone!
    Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it.  In the US David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the routine of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994 because it was considered too "controversial".  The routine that sullied his relationship with the media to a degree.  
 
His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make this shit up.).........
Damn, it has been 14 years!  Are there any comedians that are flying under the radar that should be checked out?  I am still looking for one whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour.
 
Bette        

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From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk  Fri Jan 30 15:30:39 2009
From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:30:39 -0000
Subject: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks
Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072373@mr-pants.the-lab.local>

I get the feeling you've not actually seen the material that I argue (amongst many others) Leary
clearly ripped from Hicks. In that case, how can you pass judgement?
 
I loved Leary's 'No Cure for Cancer', until I got into Hicks. I couldn't believe I was hearing the
same jokes VERY DISTINCTIVE jokes being repeated right back at me - that totally destroyed
No Cure for cancer for me.
 
Keep your fingers in your ears, it's only my opinion.

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Alex Smith
Sent: 30 January 2009 18:38
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks



The perils and ramifications of smoking aren't really "niche" material. You may not like Dennis Leary -- fair enough -- but to accuse him of ripping off Hicks in that capacity is pretty unfair.

Alex in NYC




-----Original Message----- 
From: Brendan Quinn 
Sent: Jan 30, 2009 12:46 PM 
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" 
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks 



We were comparing them because they covered similar material, that I?m pretty sure Hicks came up with and Leary stole. Specifically the voicebox gag. I could be wrong, but that?s the accusation.

 


  _____  


From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alex Smith
Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 03:59
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

You seem to be equating them merely on the fact that they're both "angry" comedians. That's not much to go on. I mean, why not toss Don Rickles into the mix too, then?

Alex in NYC



-----Original Message----- 
From: Brendan Quinn 
Sent: Jan 30, 2009 10:31 AM 
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" 
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks 




Not a fair comparison?because? 

 


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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexander Smith
Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 23:15
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

 

Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks was capable of being. I love both, but it's not really a fair comparison. 

 

Alex in NYC

 

 

 

On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote:








Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots  

 

If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=?

 

Please show working.

 


  _____  


From:  gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade
Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;)

 

From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is Denis Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because there's no cure for cancer"'

-----Original Message-----
From:  gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
Sent: 29 January 2009 04:57
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

The only other comedians I?d put in that category (and none as good as Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who?s a surprising find actually.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8

 

PS: I haven?t watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but from memory it?s pretty cool.

 


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From:  gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Bette Dillinger
Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34
To:  gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 


Hey everyone!
    Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it.  In the US David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the routine of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994 because it was considered too "controversial".  The routine that sullied his relationship with the media to a degree.  
 
His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make this shit up.).........
Damn, it has been 14 years!  Are there any comedians that are flying under the radar that should be checked out?  I am still looking for one whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour.
 
Bette       


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From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk  Fri Jan 30 15:32:00 2009
From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:32:00 -0000
Subject: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks
Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072374@mr-pants.the-lab.local>

I dunno dude, I kinda bridle at hearing skits ripped word for word. Maybe that's just me - I detest injustice.

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Christof hamille
Sent: 30 January 2009 19:53
To: Alex Smith; The Gathering
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks


The argument that Leary ripped of Hicks has been on going for a looong time.  There is a story that Leary didn't even start doing the smoking bitter gag until Hicks was dead.  And there was something dodgy about Leary and HIcks death (as far as comments or something).  Honestly I cannot be bothered.  I follow the comedian world pretty regularly and so much time has passed that it's almost a moot point.  Bill Hicks, who I think is excellent, is certainly not the first to be a venomous comedian that used smoking as part of the schtick.  He certainly took it up a notch.

When comedians die unexpectedly fans put them into some sort of stratosphere that is not always realistic.

Chris


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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:38:23 -0500
From: vassifer at earthlink.net
To: gathering at misera.net; gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

The perils and ramifications of smoking aren't really "niche" material. You may not like Dennis Leary -- fair enough -- but to accuse him of ripping off Hicks in that capacity is pretty unfair.
Alex in NYC





-----Original Message----- 
From: Brendan Quinn 
Sent: Jan 30, 2009 12:46 PM 
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" 
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks 



We were comparing them because they covered similar material, that I?m pretty sure Hicks came up with and Leary stole. Specifically the voicebox gag. I could be wrong, but that?s the accusation.

 


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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alex Smith
Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 03:59
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

You seem to be equating them merely on the fact that they're both "angry" comedians. That's not much to go on. I mean, why not toss Don Rickles into the mix too, then?


Alex in NYC



-----Original Message----- 
From: Brendan Quinn 
Sent: Jan 30, 2009 10:31 AM 
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" 
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks 




Not a fair comparison?because? 

 


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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexander Smith
Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 23:15
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

 

Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks was capable of being. I love both, but it's not really a fair comparison. 

 

Alex in NYC

 

 

 

On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote:








Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots  

 

If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=?

 

Please show working.

 


  _____  


From:  gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade
Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;)

 

>From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is Denis Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because there's no cure for cancer"'

-----Original Message-----
From:  gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
Sent: 29 January 2009 04:57
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

The only other comedians I?d put in that category (and none as good as Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who?s a surprising find actually.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8

 

PS: I haven?t watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but from memory it?s pretty cool.

 


  _____  


From:  gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Bette Dillinger
Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34
To:  gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 


Hey everyone!
    Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it.  In the US David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the routine of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994 because it was considered too "controversial".  The routine that sullied his relationship with the media to a degree.  
 
His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make this shit up.).........
Damn, it has been 14 years!  Are there any comedians that are flying under the radar that should be checked out?  I am still looking for one whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour.
 
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From wessidetempest at hotmail.com  Fri Jan 30 16:04:17 2009
From: wessidetempest at hotmail.com (Christof hamille)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:04:17 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks
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I've seen it

I've heard it

I own it

I understand.

but to me it's a bit.......obvious.
He's an influence.  So are the Rolling Stones, Picaso, etc etc.

If an artist uses that influence note for note then that is just laziness.  OR not talented enough to put their own style into it.  Of curse Bill Hicks was upset.  At that point  he was still alive and active.  If Lenny Bruce was still alive he could be mad.  You could also say the same thing about Doug Stanhope. 

he has been dead for over a decade.  Sad but true.

Chris


Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:30:39 +0000
From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk
To: vassifer at earthlink.net; gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks












I get the feeling 
you've not actually seen the material that I argue (amongst many others) 
Leary
clearly ripped from 
Hicks. In that case, how can you pass judgement?
 
I loved Leary's 'No Cure for 
Cancer', until I got into Hicks. I couldn't believe I was hearing 
the
same jokes VERY DISTINCTIVE 
jokes being repeated right back at me - that totally 
destroyed
No Cure for cancer for 
me.
 
Keep your fingers in your ears, 
it's only my opinion.

  -----Original Message-----
From: 
  gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf 
  Of Alex Smith
Sent: 30 January 2009 18:38
To: A list 
  about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about all things Killing 
  Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill 
  Hicks


  The perils and ramifications of smoking aren't really "niche" material. You 
  may not like Dennis Leary -- fair enough -- but to accuse him of ripping off 
  Hicks in that capacity is pretty unfair.
  Alex in NYC



  -----Original 
    Message----- 
From: Brendan Quinn 
Sent: Jan 
    30, 2009 12:46 PM 
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the 
    band!)'" 
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks 
    


    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    We were comparing 
    them because they covered similar material, that I?m pretty sure Hicks came 
    up with and Leary stole. Specifically the voicebox gag. I could be wrong, 
    but that?s the accusation.
     
    
    
    
    
    From: 
    gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alex Smith
Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 
    03:59
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 
    'A list about all things Killing 
    Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill 
    Hicks
     
    You seem to be 
    equating them merely on the fact that they're both "angry" comedians. That's 
    not much to go on. I mean, why not toss Don Rickles into the mix too, 
    then?
    Alex in 
    NYC


    
      -----Original 
      Message----- 
From: Brendan Quinn 
Sent: Jan 
      30, 2009 10:31 AM 
To: "'A list about all 
      things Killing Joke (the band!)'" 
      
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks 
      



      Not a fair 
      comparison?because? 
       
      
      
      
      
      From: 
      gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] 
      On Behalf Of Alexander 
      Smith
Sent: Friday, 30 
      January 2009 23:15
To: 
      A list about all 
      things Killing Joke (the 
      band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] 
      OT: Bill Hicks
       
      
       
      
      Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest 
      and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks was capable of being. I love both, but 
      it's not really a fair 
      comparison. 
      
       
      
      Alex in 
      NYC
      
       
      
       
       
      
      
      On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan 
      Quinn wrote:
      



      
      
      
      Let 
      Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots  
      
       
      
      If 
      Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then 
      Leary=?
      
       
      
      Please show 
      working.
      
       
      
      
      
      
      
      From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade
Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 
      07:24
To: A list about all things 
      Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill 
      Hicks
      
       
      
      
      LOL, don't forget 
      Denis Leary ;)
      
      
       
      
      
      From wikipeedo: 
      'an industry 
      joke began to circulate about Leary's transformation and subsequent 
      success (roughly; "Question: Why is Denis Leary a star while Bill Hicks is 
      unknown? Answer: Because there's no cure for cancer"'
      
        
        -----Original 
        Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan 
        Quinn
Sent: 29 January 2009 
        04:57
To: 'A list about all things Killing 
        Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill 
        Hicks
        
        The only other 
        comedians I?d put in that category (and none as good as Hicks) would be 
        George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who?s a surprising find 
        actually.
        
         
        
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8
        
         
        
        PS: I haven?t 
        watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but from memory it?s 
        pretty cool.
        
         
        
        
        
        
        
        From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Bette 
        Dillinger
Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 
        12:34
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] OT: Bill 
        Hicks
        
         
        
        
Hey 
        everyone!
    Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna 
        try to catch it.  In the US David Letterman will be showing on 
        Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the routine of Bill Hicks' that was never 
        aired by Letterman in 1994 because it was considered too 
        "controversial".  The routine that sullied his relationship with 
        the media to a degree.  
 
His mother Mary will 
        also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of the estate is 
        the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make this 
        shit up.).........
Damn, it has been 14 years!  Are there any 
        comedians that are flying under the radar that should be checked 
        out?  I am still looking for one whose voice is so resonant with 
        truth and 
        humour.
 
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From vassifer at earthlink.net  Fri Jan 30 16:09:09 2009
From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alex Smith)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:09:09 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks
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From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk  Fri Jan 30 16:39:45 2009
From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:39:45 -0000
Subject: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks
Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072375@mr-pants.the-lab.local>

> PS: Soundgarden is, was, and e'er shall be LIGHT YEARS better than STP.
 
I'm sure they are mate, but how do I *make* myself like Soundgarden & not like STP ?  What I actually said was that I preferred STP is all. I'm supposed to be wrong, how?

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Alex Smith
Sent: 30 January 2009 21:09
To: ade; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks



I saw Leary perform 'No Cure for Cancer' live in a tiny club in the West Village, thanks.

Hicks is funny, but has since become deified to ridiculous degrees. Also, Hicks had a tiresomely sanctimonious quality to his work which made me enjoy it less than Leary's. 

My opinion.

Alex in NYC

PS: Soundgarden is, was, and e'er shall be LIGHT YEARS better than STP.




 

-----Original Message----- 
From: ade 
Sent: Jan 30, 2009 3:30 PM 
To: Alex Smith , "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
Subject: RE: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks 


I get the feeling you've not actually seen the material that I argue (amongst many others) Leary
clearly ripped from Hicks. In that case, how can you pass judgement?
 
I loved Leary's 'No Cure for Cancer', until I got into Hicks. I couldn't believe I was hearing the
same jokes VERY DISTINCTIVE jokes being repeated right back at me - that totally destroyed
No Cure for cancer for me.
 
Keep your fingers in your ears, it's only my opinion.

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Alex Smith
Sent: 30 January 2009 18:38
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks



The perils and ramifications of smoking aren't really "niche" material. You may not like Dennis Leary -- fair enough -- but to accuse him of ripping off Hicks in that capacity is pretty unfair.

Alex in NYC




-----Original Message----- 
From: Brendan Quinn 
Sent: Jan 30, 2009 12:46 PM 
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" 
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks 



We were comparing them because they covered similar material, that I?m pretty sure Hicks came up with and Leary stole. Specifically the voicebox gag. I could be wrong, but that?s the accusation.

 


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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alex Smith
Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 03:59
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

You seem to be equating them merely on the fact that they're both "angry" comedians. That's not much to go on. I mean, why not toss Don Rickles into the mix too, then?

Alex in NYC



-----Original Message----- 
From: Brendan Quinn 
Sent: Jan 30, 2009 10:31 AM 
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" 
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks 




Not a fair comparison?because? 

 


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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexander Smith
Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 23:15
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

 

Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks was capable of being. I love both, but it's not really a fair comparison. 

 

Alex in NYC

 

 

 

On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote:








Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots  

 

If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=?

 

Please show working.

 


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From:  gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade
Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;)

 

From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is Denis Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because there's no cure for cancer"'

-----Original Message-----
From:  gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
Sent: 29 January 2009 04:57
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

The only other comedians I?d put in that category (and none as good as Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who?s a surprising find actually.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8

 

PS: I haven?t watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but from memory it?s pretty cool.

 


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From:  gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Bette Dillinger
Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34
To:  gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 


Hey everyone!
    Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it.  In the US David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the routine of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994 because it was considered too "controversial".  The routine that sullied his relationship with the media to a degree.  
 
His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make this shit up.).........
Damn, it has been 14 years!  Are there any comedians that are flying under the radar that should be checked out?  I am still looking for one whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour.
 
Bette       


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From gregslawson at msn.com  Fri Jan 30 17:10:39 2009
From: gregslawson at msn.com (GREG SLAWSON)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:10:39 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks
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Chris, what do you think of Louis CK?

From: wessidetempest at hotmail.comTo: vassifer at earthlink.net; gathering at misera.netDate: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:53:21 -0500Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

The argument that Leary ripped of Hicks has been on going for a looong time.  There is a story that Leary didn't even start doing the smoking bitter gag until Hicks was dead.  And there was something dodgy about Leary and HIcks death (as far as comments or something).  Honestly I cannot be bothered.  I follow the comedian world pretty regularly and so much time has passed that it's almost a moot point.  Bill Hicks, who I think is excellent, is certainly not the first to be a venomous comedian that used smoking as part of the schtick.  He certainly took it up a notch.When comedians die unexpectedly fans put them into some sort of stratosphere that is not always realistic.Chris

Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:38:23 -0500From: vassifer at earthlink.netTo: gathering at misera.net; gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

The perils and ramifications of smoking aren't really "niche" material. You may not like Dennis Leary -- fair enough -- but to accuse him of ripping off Hicks in that capacity is pretty unfair.Alex in NYC
-----Original Message----- From: Brendan Quinn Sent: Jan 30, 2009 12:46 PM To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks 







We were comparing them because they covered similar material, that I?m pretty sure Hicks came up with and Leary stole. Specifically the voicebox gag. I could be wrong, but that?s the accusation.
 




From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alex SmithSent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 03:59To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
 You seem to be equating them merely on the fact that they're both "angry" comedians. That's not much to go on. I mean, why not toss Don Rickles into the mix too, then?
Alex in NYC

-----Original Message----- From: Brendan Quinn Sent: Jan 30, 2009 10:31 AM To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks 
Not a fair comparison?because? 
 




From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexander SmithSent: Friday, 30 January 2009 23:15To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
 

 

Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks was capable of being. I love both, but it's not really a fair comparison. 

 

Alex in NYC

 

 
 


On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote:




Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots  

 

If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=?

 

Please show working.

 





From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of adeSent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 


LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;)


 


>From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is Denis Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because there's no cure for cancer"'


-----Original Message-----From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan QuinnSent: 29 January 2009 04:57To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

The only other comedians I?d put in that category (and none as good as Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who?s a surprising find actually.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8

 

PS: I haven?t watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but from memory it?s pretty cool.

 





From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Bette DillingerSent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34To: gathering at misera.netSubject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

Hey everyone!    Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it.  In the US David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the routine of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994 because it was considered too "controversial".  The routine that sullied his relationship with the media to a degree.   His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make this shit up.).........Damn, it has been 14 years!  Are there any comedians that are flying under the radar that should be checked out?  I am still looking for one whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour. Bette       



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From karen.weil at sddt.com  Fri Jan 30 17:26:19 2009
From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:26:19 -0800
Subject: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks
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Amen!  

k.w.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ade 
  To: Alex Smith ; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
  Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 1:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks


  > PS: Soundgarden is, was, and e'er shall be LIGHT YEARS better than STP.

  I'm sure they are mate, but how do I *make* myself like Soundgarden & not like STP ?  What I actually said was that I preferred STP is all. I'm supposed to be wrong, how?
    -----Original Message-----
    From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Alex Smith
    Sent: 30 January 2009 21:09
    To: ade; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
    Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks


    I saw Leary perform 'No Cure for Cancer' live in a tiny club in the West Village, thanks.

    Hicks is funny, but has since become deified to ridiculous degrees. Also, Hicks had a tiresomely sanctimonious quality to his work which made me enjoy it less than Leary's. 

    My opinion.

    Alex in NYC

    PS: Soundgarden is, was, and e'er shall be LIGHT YEARS better than STP.




     

      -----Original Message----- 
      From: ade 
      Sent: Jan 30, 2009 3:30 PM 
      To: Alex Smith , "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
      Subject: RE: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks 


      I get the feeling you've not actually seen the material that I argue (amongst many others) Leary
      clearly ripped from Hicks. In that case, how can you pass judgement?

      I loved Leary's 'No Cure for Cancer', until I got into Hicks. I couldn't believe I was hearing the
      same jokes VERY DISTINCTIVE jokes being repeated right back at me - that totally destroyed
      No Cure for cancer for me.

      Keep your fingers in your ears, it's only my opinion.
        -----Original Message-----
        From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Alex Smith
        Sent: 30 January 2009 18:38
        To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
        Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks


        The perils and ramifications of smoking aren't really "niche" material. You may not like Dennis Leary -- fair enough -- but to accuse him of ripping off Hicks in that capacity is pretty unfair.

        Alex in NYC




          -----Original Message----- 
          From: Brendan Quinn 
          Sent: Jan 30, 2009 12:46 PM 
          To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" 
          Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks 


          We were comparing them because they covered similar material, that I?m pretty sure Hicks came up with and Leary stole. Specifically the voicebox gag. I could be wrong, but that?s the accusation.

           


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          From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alex Smith
          Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 03:59
          To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
          Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

           

          You seem to be equating them merely on the fact that they're both "angry" comedians. That's not much to go on. I mean, why not toss Don Rickles into the mix too, then?

          Alex in NYC



            -----Original Message----- 
            From: Brendan Quinn 
            Sent: Jan 30, 2009 10:31 AM 
            To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" 
            Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks 




            Not a fair comparison?because? 

             


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            From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexander Smith
            Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 23:15
            To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
            Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

             

             

            Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks was capable of being. I love both, but it's not really a fair comparison. 

             

            Alex in NYC

             

             

             

            On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote:






            Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots  

             

            If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=?

             

            Please show working.

             


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            From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade
            Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24
            To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
            Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

             

            LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;)

             

            From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is Denis Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because there's no cure for cancer"'

              -----Original Message-----
              From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
              Sent: 29 January 2009 04:57
              To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
              Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

              The only other comedians I?d put in that category (and none as good as Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who?s a surprising find actually.

               

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8

               

              PS: I haven?t watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but from memory it?s pretty cool.

               


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              From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Bette Dillinger
              Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34
              To: gathering at misera.net
              Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

               


              Hey everyone!
                  Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it.  In the US David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the routine of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994 because it was considered too "controversial".  The routine that sullied his relationship with the media to a degree.  
               
              His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make this shit up.).........
              Damn, it has been 14 years!  Are there any comedians that are flying under the radar that should be checked out?  I am still looking for one whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour.
               
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From wessidetempest at hotmail.com  Fri Jan 30 17:33:02 2009
From: wessidetempest at hotmail.com (Christof hamille)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:33:02 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks
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I like him more when he does voice over work (ala Home Movies and Dr Katz) and his writing and directing.  I know that he is part of the Dane Cook rip-off controversy.  And those similarities are close as far as timeline.  I enjoy his viewpoints and humor.  Maybe it is the delivery that doesn't make me a true fan.

 The Leary argument is....true...but it is so old.  There was a feud (I think amicable) between Redd Foxx and Rudy Ray Moore 20 something years ago.

Samething with Carlos Mencena (sp?) and 20 other comics.

Comics are bitter, twisted, demented people and it seems like there is always someone screaming "rip-off".

Chris


From: gregslawson at msn.com
To: gathering at misera.net; vassifer at earthlink.net
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:10:39 -0500
Subject: Re: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks








Chris, what do you think of Louis CK?



From: wessidetempest at hotmail.com
To: vassifer at earthlink.net; gathering at misera.net
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:53:21 -0500
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks



The argument that Leary ripped of Hicks has been on going for a looong time.  There is a story that Leary didn't even start doing the smoking bitter gag until Hicks was dead.  And there was something dodgy about Leary and HIcks death (as far as comments or something).  Honestly I cannot be bothered.  I follow the comedian world pretty regularly and so much time has passed that it's almost a moot point.  Bill Hicks, who I think is excellent, is certainly not the first to be a venomous comedian that used smoking as part of the schtick.  He certainly took it up a notch.

When comedians die unexpectedly fans put them into some sort of stratosphere that is not always realistic.

Chris



Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:38:23 -0500
From: vassifer at earthlink.net
To: gathering at misera.net; gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks



The perils and ramifications of smoking aren't really "niche" material. You may not like Dennis Leary -- fair enough -- but to accuse him of ripping off Hicks in that capacity is pretty unfair.
Alex in NYC




-----Original Message----- 
From: Brendan Quinn 
Sent: Jan 30, 2009 12:46 PM 
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" 
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks 









We were comparing them because they covered similar material, that I?m pretty sure Hicks came up with and Leary stole. Specifically the voicebox gag. I could be wrong, but that?s the accusation.
 




From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alex Smith
Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 03:59
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
 You seem to be equating them merely on the fact that they're both "angry" comedians. That's not much to go on. I mean, why not toss Don Rickles into the mix too, then?

Alex in NYC



-----Original Message----- 
From: Brendan Quinn 
Sent: Jan 30, 2009 10:31 AM 
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" 
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks 



Not a fair comparison?because? 
 




From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexander Smith
Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 23:15
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
 

 

Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks was capable of being. I love both, but it's not really a fair comparison. 

 

Alex in NYC

 

 
 


On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote:







Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots  

 

If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=?

 

Please show working.

 





From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade
Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 


LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;)


 


>From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is Denis Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because there's no cure for cancer"'


-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
Sent: 29 January 2009 04:57
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

The only other comedians I?d put in that category (and none as good as Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who?s a surprising find actually.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8

 

PS: I haven?t watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but from memory it?s pretty cool.

 





From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Bette Dillinger
Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 


Hey everyone!
    Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it.  In the US David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the routine of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994 because it was considered too "controversial".  The routine that sullied his relationship with the media to a degree.  
 
His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make this shit up.).........
Damn, it has been 14 years!  Are there any comedians that are flying under the radar that should be checked out?  I am still looking for one whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour.
 
Bette       



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From dpeace at bigfoot.com  Fri Jan 30 21:05:01 2009
From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 02:05:01 -0000
Subject: [kj] [OT] Jesus Lizard
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How did I miss this?

 

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/147768-the-jesus-lizard-reunite

 

Fantastic news! I know where I'll be May 8th-10th.

 

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From killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com  Fri Jan 30 21:29:02 2009
From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com (The Exorcist)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:29:02 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks
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ADC? Other than saying fuck, cunt, cocksucker, 
balls, asshole, shit and blow me he's empty.
I find him about as funny as a wide screw being inserted into my penis.

He makes Larry the cable guy sound like an 
eloquent genius on social commentary. *Shiver*

At 12:49 PM 1/30/2009, fluw wrote:

>
>
>Or andrew dice clay, who is what I see leary 
>being;
demonstrative, lowest common denominator material.
>
>
>
>----------
>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net 
>[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alex Smith
>Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 10:59 AM
>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the 
>band!); 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
>Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
>
>
>
>You seem to be equating them merely on the fact 
>that they're both "angry" comedians. That's not 
>much to go on. I mean, why not toss Don Rickles into the mix too, then?
>
>Alex in NYC
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Brendan Quinn
>Sent: Jan 30, 2009 10:31 AM
>To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"
>Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
>
>
>Not a fair comparison
because?
>
>
>
>----------
>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net 
>[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexander Smith
>Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 23:15
>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
>
>
>
>
>
>Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and 
>sanctimonious as Bill Hicks was capable of 
>being. I love both, but it's not really a fair comparison.
>
>
>
>Alex in NYC
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote:
>
>
>
>
>Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots
>
>
>
>If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=?
>
>
>
>Please show working.
>
>
>
>----------
>From: 
><mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>gathering-bounces at misera.net 
>[<mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] 
>On Behalf Of ade
>Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24
>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
>
>
>
>LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;)
>
>
>
> From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to 
> circulate about Leary's transformation and 
> subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is 
> Denis Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? 
> Answer: Because there's no cure for cancer"'
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: 
><mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>gathering-bounces at misera.net 
>[<mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On 
>Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
>Sent: 29 January 2009 04:57
>To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
>Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
>
>The only other comedians I?d put in that 
>category (and none as good as Hicks) would be 
>George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who?s a surprising find actually.
>
>
>
><http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8
>
>
>
>PS: I haven?t watched this in ages so apologies 
>if it sucks, but from memory it?s pretty cool.
>
>
>
>----------
>From: 
><mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>gathering-bounces at misera.net 
>[<mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] 
>On Behalf Of Bette Dillinger
>Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34
>To: <mailto:gathering at misera.net>gathering at misera.net
>Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
>
>
>
>
>Hey everyone!
>     Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try 
> to catch it.  In the US David Letterman will be 
> showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the 
> routine of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by 
> Letterman in 1994 because it was considered too 
> "controversial".  The routine that sullied his 
> relationship with the media to a degree.
>
>His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony 
>that the legal executor of the estate is the ex 
>attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make this shit up.).........
>Damn, it has been 14 years!  Are there any 
>comedians that are flying under the radar that 
>should be checked out?  I am still looking for 
>one whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour.
>
>Bette
>
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From killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com  Fri Jan 30 21:37:03 2009
From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com (The Exorcist)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:37:03 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales
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At 01:13 PM 1/30/2009, Brendan Quinn wrote:

You just had to mention Wilson Phillips and rub it in.
You bastard! If I ever get your mailing address I'm sending a Wilson 
Phillips CD your way.

>Not that it was hard to outshine
>Madonna and Wilson Phillips and the synth theme from Miami Vice, admittedly
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From killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com  Fri Jan 30 21:41:46 2009
From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com (The Exorcist)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:41:46 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks
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I've yet to hear anyone do a good Rodney Dangerfield ripoff. :)

At 04:04 PM 1/30/2009, Christof hamille wrote:
>I've seen it
>
>I've heard it
>
>I own it
>
>I understand.
>
>but to me it's a bit.......obvious.
>He's an influence.  So are the Rolling Stones, Picaso, etc etc.
>
>If an artist uses that influence note for note then that is just 
>laziness.  OR not talented enough to put their own style into 
>it.  Of curse Bill Hicks was upset.  At that point  he was still 
>alive and active.  If Lenny Bruce was still alive he could be 
>mad.  You could also say the same thing about Doug Stanhope.
>
>he has been dead for over a decade.  Sad but true.
>
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From killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com  Fri Jan 30 21:45:22 2009
From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com (The Exorcist)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:45:22 -0500
Subject: [kj] grumpyoldsod
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Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh.... Don't get me started!
/Me keeps mouth shut and moves on.


At 11:44 AM 1/30/2009, a.madani at anirrationaldomain.net wrote:

>I wonder if that quote should really be attributed to Hitler:
>"The best way to take control over a people and control them
>utterly is to take a little of their freedom at a time, to erode
>rights by a thousand tiny and almost imperceptible
>reductions. In this way the people will not see those rights
>and freedoms being removed until past the point at which
>these changes cannot be reversed."
>Sounds a lot like Dick Cheney to me - straight outta da Patriot Act.
>
>Kevin Richard writes:
>>Good read and a good laugh go to www.grumpyoldsod.com
>>
>>
>
>"The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more 
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From karen.weil at sddt.com  Fri Jan 30 21:51:06 2009
From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:51:06 -0800
Subject: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks
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Sounds very painful all around! ; ) 
Love the Larry comparison, though! : ) 

Happy weekend, Gatherers!

k.w.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: The Exorcist 
  To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
  Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 6:29 PM
  Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks


  ADC? Other than saying fuck, cunt, cocksucker, balls, asshole, shit and blow me he's empty.
  I find him about as funny as a wide screw being inserted into my penis.

  He makes Larry the cable guy sound like an eloquent genius on social commentary. *Shiver*

  At 12:49 PM 1/30/2009, fluw wrote:




    Or andrew dice clay, who is what I see leary being;.demonstrative, lowest common denominator material. 

     

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    From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alex Smith
    Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 10:59 AM
    To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
    Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

     

    You seem to be equating them merely on the fact that they're both "angry" comedians. That's not much to go on. I mean, why not toss Don Rickles into the mix too, then?

    Alex in NYC


      -----Original Message----- 

      From: Brendan Quinn 

      Sent: Jan 30, 2009 10:31 AM 

      To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" 

      Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks 



      Not a fair comparison.because? 




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      Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 23:15

      To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

      Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks








      Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks was capable of being. I love both, but it's not really a fair comparison. 





      Alex in NYC











      On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote:





      Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots  





      If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=?





      Please show working.




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      From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade

      Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24

      To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

      Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks





      LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;)





      From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is Denis Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because there's no cure for cancer"'



        -----Original Message-----

        From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn

        Sent: 29 January 2009 04:57

        To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'

        Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks


        The only other comedians I'd put in that category (and none as good as Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who's a surprising find actually.





        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8





        PS: I haven't watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but from memory it's pretty cool.




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        From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Bette Dillinger

        Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34

        To: gathering at misera.net

        Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks






        Hey everyone!

            Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it.  In the US David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the routine of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994 because it was considered too "controversial".  The routine that sullied his relationship with the media to a degree.  



        His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make this shit up.).........

        Damn, it has been 14 years!  Are there any comedians that are flying under the radar that should be checked out?  I am still looking for one whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour.



        Bette       

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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Sat Jan 31 03:43:39 2009
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:43:39 +1100
Subject: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks
In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072375@mr-pants.the-lab.local>
References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072375@mr-pants.the-lab.local>
Message-ID: <032EF75ADBE84DA68881A6F6BC61F69B@Soundgardener>

Oh no how'd we get into this? I thought I was raising an in joke between Ade
and me re SG vs STP to a) illustrate how I felt about Hicks vs Leary, and b)
make sure that it was taken light-heartedly. 

 

  _____  

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of ade
Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 08:40
To: Alex Smith; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

> PS: Soundgarden is, was, and e'er shall be LIGHT YEARS better than STP.

 

I'm sure they are mate, but how do I *make* myself like Soundgarden & not
like STP ?  What I actually said was that I preferred STP is all. I'm
supposed to be wrong, how?

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
Behalf Of Alex Smith
Sent: 30 January 2009 21:09
To: ade; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

I saw Leary perform 'No Cure for Cancer' live in a tiny club in the West
Village, thanks.

Hicks is funny, but has since become deified to ridiculous degrees. Also,
Hicks had a tiresomely sanctimonious quality to his work which made me enjoy
it less than Leary's. 

My opinion.

Alex in NYC

PS: Soundgarden is, was, and e'er shall be LIGHT YEARS better than STP.




 

-----Original Message----- 
From: ade 
Sent: Jan 30, 2009 3:30 PM 
To: Alex Smith , "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
Subject: RE: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks 




I get the feeling you've not actually seen the material that I argue
(amongst many others) Leary

clearly ripped from Hicks. In that case, how can you pass judgement?

 

I loved Leary's 'No Cure for Cancer', until I got into Hicks. I couldn't
believe I was hearing the

same jokes VERY DISTINCTIVE jokes being repeated right back at me - that
totally destroyed

No Cure for cancer for me.

 

Keep your fingers in your ears, it's only my opinion.

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
Behalf Of Alex Smith
Sent: 30 January 2009 18:38
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about all
things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

The perils and ramifications of smoking aren't really "niche" material. You
may not like Dennis Leary -- fair enough -- but to accuse him of ripping off
Hicks in that capacity is pretty unfair.

Alex in NYC



-----Original Message----- 
From: Brendan Quinn 
Sent: Jan 30, 2009 12:46 PM 
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" 
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks 




We were comparing them because they covered similar material, that I'm
pretty sure Hicks came up with and Leary stole. Specifically the voicebox
gag. I could be wrong, but that's the accusation.

 


  _____  


From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Alex Smith
Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 03:59
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about all
things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

You seem to be equating them merely on the fact that they're both "angry"
comedians. That's not much to go on. I mean, why not toss Don Rickles into
the mix too, then?

Alex in NYC




-----Original Message----- 
From: Brendan Quinn 
Sent: Jan 30, 2009 10:31 AM 
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" 
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks 





Not a fair comparison.because? 

 


  _____  


From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Alexander Smith
Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 23:15
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

 

Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks was
capable of being. I love both, but it's not really a fair comparison. 

 

Alex in NYC

 

 

 

On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote:









Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots  

 

If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=?

 

Please show working.

 


  _____  


From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of ade
Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;)

 

>From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's
transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is Denis
Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because there's no cure
for cancer"'

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
Sent: 29 January 2009 04:57
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

The only other comedians I'd put in that category (and none as good as
Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who's a surprising
find actually.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8

 

PS: I haven't watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but from memory
it's pretty cool.

 


  _____  


From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Bette Dillinger
Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 


Hey everyone!
    Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it.  In the US
David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the routine
of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994 because it was
considered too "controversial".  The routine that sullied his relationship
with the media to a degree.  
 
His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of
the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make
this shit up.).........
Damn, it has been 14 years!  Are there any comedians that are flying under
the radar that should be checked out?  I am still looking for one whose
voice is so resonant with truth and humour.
 
Bette       


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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Sat Jan 31 04:25:05 2009
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:25:05 +1100
Subject: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks
In-Reply-To: <032EF75ADBE84DA68881A6F6BC61F69B@Soundgardener>
References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072375@mr-pants.the-lab.local>
	<032EF75ADBE84DA68881A6F6BC61F69B@Soundgardener>
Message-ID: <15BBA1D3A2C4464188BDC72B9D949E31@Soundgardener>

I think people taking comedy seriously has something to do with the ancient
role of the court jester, poking fun at the King etc. Like Jaz & BPF
mentioned in that brief interview that went around a while ago. We expect
them to amuse us, but there's also that angle of social critique.
Challenging values and challenging authority. With the better comedians that
is.you're not really gonna get it from Larry the Cable Guy, or Seinfeld (but
you *might* from Larry David). Christ if I remember back far enough
(Classical Studies at school in '91) there was a Greek slave comic
playwright who took the piss out of those in power, Aristophanes.and even
though he was a slave who viciously & publicly ridiculed those in power, he
got away with it because he did it with great humour. It's hard to feel
outrage about something when an entire auditorium is cracking up about it...


 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristophanes

 

So elevating a comic who challenges the status quo to heroic proportions
isn't anything new.

 

Hicks always said he attacked things that offended his sense of reason, and
after hearing that and going back over his stuff, it's quite a theme. Not
that it's anything unique in comedy. But the extent to which he's
worshipped, I stand by it - hence the staunch defence, 15+ years after the
event. No one has ever made me laugh as hard and at the same time
articulated a sense of outrage at the primitive state of civilisation.
Basically take your peak experiences with whatever art or literature or
whatever that has really elevated your consciousness, that's how it felt for
me, listening to Hicks for the first time. So yeah, he's up there with
Hendrix and Robert Anton Wilson and Soundgarden and my other heroes, but not
because of some cult of personality or posthumous popularity. 

 

And I can forgive the bits where he goes over the top, to the same extent I
forgive Jaz for the same. Seems to go hand in hand with 'being out there'. 

 

  _____  

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 19:44
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'; 'Alex Smith'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

Oh no how'd we get into this? I thought I was raising an in joke between Ade
and me re SG vs STP to a) illustrate how I felt about Hicks vs Leary, and b)
make sure that it was taken light-heartedly. 

 

  _____  

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of ade
Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 08:40
To: Alex Smith; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

> PS: Soundgarden is, was, and e'er shall be LIGHT YEARS better than STP.

 

I'm sure they are mate, but how do I *make* myself like Soundgarden & not
like STP ?  What I actually said was that I preferred STP is all. I'm
supposed to be wrong, how?

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
Behalf Of Alex Smith
Sent: 30 January 2009 21:09
To: ade; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

I saw Leary perform 'No Cure for Cancer' live in a tiny club in the West
Village, thanks.

Hicks is funny, but has since become deified to ridiculous degrees. Also,
Hicks had a tiresomely sanctimonious quality to his work which made me enjoy
it less than Leary's. 

My opinion.

Alex in NYC

PS: Soundgarden is, was, and e'er shall be LIGHT YEARS better than STP.




 

-----Original Message----- 
From: ade 
Sent: Jan 30, 2009 3:30 PM 
To: Alex Smith , "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
Subject: RE: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks 



I get the feeling you've not actually seen the material that I argue
(amongst many others) Leary

clearly ripped from Hicks. In that case, how can you pass judgement?

 

I loved Leary's 'No Cure for Cancer', until I got into Hicks. I couldn't
believe I was hearing the

same jokes VERY DISTINCTIVE jokes being repeated right back at me - that
totally destroyed

No Cure for cancer for me.

 

Keep your fingers in your ears, it's only my opinion.

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
Behalf Of Alex Smith
Sent: 30 January 2009 18:38
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about all
things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

The perils and ramifications of smoking aren't really "niche" material. You
may not like Dennis Leary -- fair enough -- but to accuse him of ripping off
Hicks in that capacity is pretty unfair.

Alex in NYC

-----Original Message----- 
From: Brendan Quinn 
Sent: Jan 30, 2009 12:46 PM 
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" 
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks 



We were comparing them because they covered similar material, that I'm
pretty sure Hicks came up with and Leary stole. Specifically the voicebox
gag. I could be wrong, but that's the accusation.

 


  _____  


From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Alex Smith
Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 03:59
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about all
things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

You seem to be equating them merely on the fact that they're both "angry"
comedians. That's not much to go on. I mean, why not toss Don Rickles into
the mix too, then?

Alex in NYC





-----Original Message----- 
From: Brendan Quinn 
Sent: Jan 30, 2009 10:31 AM 
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" 
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks 






Not a fair comparison.because? 

 


  _____  


From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Alexander Smith
Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 23:15
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

 

Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks was
capable of being. I love both, but it's not really a fair comparison. 

 

Alex in NYC

 

 

 

On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote:








Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots  

 

If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=?

 

Please show working.

 


  _____  


From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of ade
Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;)

 

>From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's
transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is Denis
Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because there's no cure
for cancer"'

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
Sent: 29 January 2009 04:57
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

The only other comedians I'd put in that category (and none as good as
Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who's a surprising
find actually.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8

 

PS: I haven't watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but from memory
it's pretty cool.

 


  _____  


From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Bette Dillinger
Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 


Hey everyone!
    Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it.  In the US
David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the routine
of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994 because it was
considered too "controversial".  The routine that sullied his relationship
with the media to a degree.  
 
His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of
the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make
this shit up.).........
Damn, it has been 14 years!  Are there any comedians that are flying under
the radar that should be checked out?  I am still looking for one whose
voice is so resonant with truth and humour.
 
Bette       


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From gingoblin at easynet.co.uk  Sat Jan 31 08:01:42 2009
From: gingoblin at easynet.co.uk (gingoblin at easynet.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:01:42 +0000
Subject: [kj] [OT] I've started so I'll finish....
In-Reply-To: <a80677030901301110l5d7eda5i8810e9b53b48625c@mail.gmail.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20090131125638.01bf7d70@pop3.easynet.co.uk>

Ha ha, couldn't resist watching! Got the Joy Division one wrong (why did I 
think FLUFFY Kittens?!!!) but the rest were fucking easy! I've now found my 
vocation in life and am searching for a way of making cash from answering 
questions on late-70's UK punk!
Er, on the general knowledge I think I got three right!
Anyway, the guy was a plastic... no bondage trousers...no zips... not even 
any badges! ;-)

Dave in Edinburgh




At 19:10 30/01/2009 +0000, you wrote:
>UK Gatherer's. Tonight on BBC2 at 7.30 one of the contestants specialist 
>subject is "British Punk". See how you do...
>
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From dpeace at bigfoot.com  Sat Jan 31 10:32:58 2009
From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:32:58 -0000
Subject: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales
In-Reply-To: <BLU108-W34D2AFCA37A279B35FE847BEC60@phx.gbl>
References: <A3E7B0A3F24F4EEBA5DD3C2AA7690463@Soundgardener>
	<BLU108-W34D2AFCA37A279B35FE847BEC60@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <023201c983b9$32378ea0$96a6abe0$@com>

Oh Petey.

 

Do please ignore us trip-trapping over your bridge.

 

Darren

Hungerford, UK

 

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of fluke fluke
Sent: 30 January 2009 17:37
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Music industry - decline in CD sales

 


Music is in decline , and it has been so for number of years. 
Everything has been done, there is nothing new to do .,
There is no original music left to make , every "new"song is a regurgitation
of another song . 
Music has had its day, its time for it to die.
I dont have a problem with that , because I do like peace and quiet nowadays




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From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk  Sat Jan 31 10:54:04 2009
From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:54:04 -0000
Subject: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks
Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072376@mr-pants.the-lab.local>

I think we got there due to me being sick of Alex trashing almost everyhing I fucking post on this list, frankly. If he chips in, it's likely he's telling me I'm WRONG. It's a good job he's a journalist - he's always right...
 
Whiney, maybe, but it gets just a little bit tiresome.

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
Sent: 31 January 2009 08:44
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'; 'Alex Smith'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks



Oh no how'd we get into this? I thought I was raising an in joke between Ade and me re SG vs STP to a) illustrate how I felt about Hicks vs Leary, and b) make sure that it was taken light-heartedly... 

 


  _____  


From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade
Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 08:40
To: Alex Smith; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

> PS: Soundgarden is, was, and e'er shall be LIGHT YEARS better than STP.

 

I'm sure they are mate, but how do I *make* myself like Soundgarden & not like STP ?  What I actually said was that I preferred STP is all. I'm supposed to be wrong, how?

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Alex Smith
Sent: 30 January 2009 21:09
To: ade; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

I saw Leary perform 'No Cure for Cancer' live in a tiny club in the West Village, thanks.

Hicks is funny, but has since become deified to ridiculous degrees. Also, Hicks had a tiresomely sanctimonious quality to his work which made me enjoy it less than Leary's. 

My opinion.

Alex in NYC

PS: Soundgarden is, was, and e'er shall be LIGHT YEARS better than STP.




 

-----Original Message----- 
From: ade 
Sent: Jan 30, 2009 3:30 PM 
To: Alex Smith , "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
Subject: RE: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks 




I get the feeling you've not actually seen the material that I argue (amongst many others) Leary

clearly ripped from Hicks. In that case, how can you pass judgement?

 

I loved Leary's 'No Cure for Cancer', until I got into Hicks. I couldn't believe I was hearing the

same jokes VERY DISTINCTIVE jokes being repeated right back at me - that totally destroyed

No Cure for cancer for me.

 

Keep your fingers in your ears, it's only my opinion.

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Alex Smith
Sent: 30 January 2009 18:38
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

The perils and ramifications of smoking aren't really "niche" material. You may not like Dennis Leary -- fair enough -- but to accuse him of ripping off Hicks in that capacity is pretty unfair.

Alex in NYC



-----Original Message----- 
From: Brendan Quinn 
Sent: Jan 30, 2009 12:46 PM 
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" 
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks 




We were comparing them because they covered similar material, that I'm pretty sure Hicks came up with and Leary stole. Specifically the voicebox gag. I could be wrong, but that's the accusation.

 


  _____  


From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alex Smith
Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 03:59
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

You seem to be equating them merely on the fact that they're both "angry" comedians. That's not much to go on. I mean, why not toss Don Rickles into the mix too, then?

Alex in NYC




-----Original Message----- 
From: Brendan Quinn 
Sent: Jan 30, 2009 10:31 AM 
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" 
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks 





Not a fair comparison...because? 

 


  _____  


From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexander Smith
Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 23:15
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

 

Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks was capable of being. I love both, but it's not really a fair comparison. 

 

Alex in NYC

 

 

 

On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote:









Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots  

 

If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=?

 

Please show working.

 


  _____  


From:  gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade
Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;)

 

>From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is Denis Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because there's no cure for cancer"'

-----Original Message-----
From:  gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
Sent: 29 January 2009 04:57
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

The only other comedians I'd put in that category (and none as good as Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who's a surprising find actually.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8

 

PS: I haven't watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but from memory it's pretty cool.

 


  _____  


From:  gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Bette Dillinger
Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34
To:  gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 


Hey everyone!
    Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it.  In the US David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the routine of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994 because it was considered too "controversial".  The routine that sullied his relationship with the media to a degree.  
 
His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make this shit up.).........
Damn, it has been 14 years!  Are there any comedians that are flying under the radar that should be checked out?  I am still looking for one whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour.
 
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From bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com  Sat Jan 31 11:01:54 2009
From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com (bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:01:54 +0100
Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
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On 1/31/09, ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

> I think we got there due to me being sick of Alex trashing almost everyhing
> I fucking post on this list, frankly. If he chips in, it's likely he's
> telling me I'm WRONG. It's a good job he's a journalist - he's always
> right...

You know, i have to agree with his viewpoint on Denis Leary. No Cure
For Cancer was good, his performance on MTV Live was ace, but
everything after that was boring crap, including his half arsed movie
career.

As for Soundgarden vs Stone Temple Pilots, you can take them both and
flush tem out the toilet, along with every fucking band that sounds
even REMOTELY like any of them. The ONLY band EVER out of the whole
"grunge" wave EVER worth more than two shits is Tribe After Tribe from
South Africa, the rest can go autocopulate, devour feces and perish!


b
Grunge hater since day one

From dpeace at bigfoot.com  Sat Jan 31 11:34:40 2009
From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:34:40 -0000
Subject: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks
In-Reply-To: <F62681CDF670414297A69A4E29F44D70@edweil>
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Didn't know anything about this Larry fellow, so I looked him up on
Wikipedia.

 

There, it says that:

 

It was recently announced that Larry will be roasted for a Comedy Central
special

 

Which worries me: 

 


roasting

Noun. Sexual intercourse between at least two males and a female, although
it could in theory involve all males, in what may have traditionally being
called an orgy. Probably an abb. of spit roasting.

 

(from http://www.peevish.co.uk/slang/r.htm).

 

I hope he's all right.

 

Darren

Hungerford, UK

 

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Karen Weil
Sent: 31 January 2009 02:51
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

Sounds very painful all around! ; ) 

Love the Larry comparison, though! : ) 

 

Happy weekend, Gatherers!

 

k.w.

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From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk  Sat Jan 31 11:41:24 2009
From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:41:24 -0000
Subject: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks
Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072378@mr-pants.the-lab.local>

He'll be ok, it gives them somewhere to rest their pints.

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace
Sent: 31 January 2009 16:35
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks



Didn't know anything about this Larry fellow, so I looked him up on Wikipedia.

 

There, it says that:

 

It was recently announced that Larry will be roasted for a Comedy Central special

 

Which worries me: 

 


roasting

Noun. Sexual intercourse between at least two males and a female, although it could in theory involve all males, in what may have traditionally being called an orgy. Probably an abb. of spit roasting.

 

(from http://www.peevish.co.uk/slang/r.htm).

 

I hope he's all right.

 

Darren

Hungerford, UK

 

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Karen Weil
Sent: 31 January 2009 02:51
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

Sounds very painful all around! ; ) 

Love the Larry comparison, though! : ) 

 

Happy weekend, Gatherers!

 

k.w.

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From vassifer at earthlink.net  Sat Jan 31 12:08:00 2009
From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alexander Smith)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:08:00 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks
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If you're self-conscious enough to interpret my opinions as more valid  
than anyone else's, that's your own neurosis at work.

Alex in NYC



On Jan 31, 2009, at 10:54 AM, ade wrote:

> I think we got there due to me being sick of Alex trashing almost  
> everyhing I fucking post on this list, frankly. If he chips in, it's  
> likely he's telling me I'm WRONG. It's a good job he's a journalist  
> - he's always right...
>
> Whiney, maybe, but it gets just a little bit tiresome.
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From gregslawson at msn.com  Sat Jan 31 13:22:46 2009
From: gregslawson at msn.com (GREG SLAWSON)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:22:46 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
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Finally a true brother, b! I've always hated grunge too, from the start--it paraded itself as the new "punk" but to me, it always sounded like Led Zep/Aerosmith/Iron Maiden, etc. --all the music punk was against! I'll take Blag Flag any day over that crap!> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:01:54 +0100> From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks> > On 1/31/09, ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> wrote:> > > I think we got there due to me being sick of Alex trashing almost everyhing> > I fucking post on this list, frankly. If he chips in, it's likely he's> > telling me I'm WRONG. It's a good job he's a journalist - he's always> > right...> > You know, i have to agree with his viewpoint on Denis Leary. No Cure> For Cancer was good, his performance on MTV Live was ace, but> everything after that was boring crap, including his half arsed movie> career.> > As for Soundgarden vs Stone Temple Pilots, you can take them both and> flush tem out the toilet, along with every fucking band that sounds> even REMOTELY like any of them. The ONLY band EVER out of the whole> "grunge" wave EVER worth more than two shits is Tribe After Tribe from> South Africa, the rest can go autocopulate, devour feces and perish!> > > b> Grunge hater since day one> _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From vassifer at earthlink.net  Sat Jan 31 14:44:09 2009
From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alexander Smith)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 14:44:09 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
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And what, pray tell, is so wrong with Led Zep & Iron Maiden?

I'd also suggest that Black Flag were as much of an influence -- if  
not more so -- on the first wave of Grunge bands (Mudhoney,  
Soundgarden, Green River, etc. etc.) as the bands you cite.

Whatever. Arguing over broken up bands of since-vanished genres and  
dead comedians is nothing worth getting hot under the collar about.

Alex in NYC


On Jan 31, 2009, at 1:22 PM, GREG SLAWSON wrote:

> Finally a true brother, b! I've always hated grunge too, from the  
> start--it paraded itself as the new "punk" but to me, it always  
> sounded like Led Zep/Aerosmith/Iron Maiden, etc. --all the music  
> punk was against! I'll take Blag Flag any day over that crap!
>
> > Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:01:54 +0100
> > From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com
> > To: gathering at misera.net
> > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
> >
> > On 1/31/09, ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > I think we got there due to me being sick of Alex trashing  
> almost everyhing
> > > I fucking post on this list, frankly. If he chips in, it's  
> likely he's
> > > telling me I'm WRONG. It's a good job he's a journalist - he's  
> always
> > > right...
> >
> > You know, i have to agree with his viewpoint on Denis Leary. No Cure
> > For Cancer was good, his performance on MTV Live was ace, but
> > everything after that was boring crap, including his half arsed  
> movie
> > career.
> >
> > As for Soundgarden vs Stone Temple Pilots, you can take them both  
> and
> > flush tem out the toilet, along with every fucking band that sounds
> > even REMOTELY like any of them. The ONLY band EVER out of the whole
> > "grunge" wave EVER worth more than two shits is Tribe After Tribe  
> from
> > South Africa, the rest can go autocopulate, devour feces and perish!
> >
> >
> > b
> > Grunge hater since day one
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> > Gathering at misera.net
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>
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From pmdavies at gmail.com  Sat Jan 31 15:16:45 2009
From: pmdavies at gmail.com (iPat)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:16:45 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
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I guess we all come here with different routes which is the lists
strength, mine certainly is more ska, reggae/dub, punk
for me something like Maiden or Led Zep is baffling, its alien to my taste.
Most grunge as well was boring, suitable only for landfill, with one
or two exception. So it makes sense to see my route into say techno
which others simply cant fathom.

glowsticks anyone? jah man


On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> And what, pray tell, is so wrong with Led Zep & Iron Maiden?
> I'd also suggest that Black Flag were as much of an influence -- if not more
> so -- on the first wave of Grunge bands (Mudhoney, Soundgarden, Green River,
> etc. etc.) as the bands you cite.
> Whatever. Arguing over broken up bands of since-vanished genres and dead
> comedians is nothing worth getting hot under the collar about.
> Alex in NYC
>

From vassifer at earthlink.net  Sat Jan 31 15:43:06 2009
From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alexander Smith)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:43:06 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
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I never fully subscribed to all that 'Year Zero' stuff. I love lots of  
metal. I adore Punk Rock. I like an unwieldy dollop of so-called  
'classic rock.' I like bits of reggae. I like a lot of dance music.  
There's more than enough crap that I *don't* like, but at the end of  
the day, music is music. I'm too old to define myself by any single  
genre anymore.

Henry Rollins of Black Flag, by the way (since they were invoked  
earlier) is a huge fan of Ted Nugent, Van Halen and Aerosmith.

Alex in NYC


On Jan 31, 2009, at 3:16 PM, iPat wrote:

> I guess we all come here with different routes which is the lists
> strength, mine certainly is more ska, reggae/dub, punk
> for me something like Maiden or Led Zep is baffling, its alien to my  
> taste.
> Most grunge as well was boring, suitable only for landfill, with one
> or two exception. So it makes sense to see my route into say techno
> which others simply cant fathom.
>
> glowsticks anyone? jah man
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net 
> > wrote:
>>
>> And what, pray tell, is so wrong with Led Zep & Iron Maiden?
>> I'd also suggest that Black Flag were as much of an influence -- if  
>> not more
>> so -- on the first wave of Grunge bands (Mudhoney, Soundgarden,  
>> Green River,
>> etc. etc.) as the bands you cite.
>> Whatever. Arguing over broken up bands of since-vanished genres and  
>> dead
>> comedians is nothing worth getting hot under the collar about.
>> Alex in NYC
>>
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From jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk  Sat Jan 31 16:11:30 2009
From: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk (Jim Harper)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:11:30 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
In-Reply-To: <C24430C3-4412-4198-B117-6CF5D01A5909@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <49064.91430.qm@web25905.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

And Led Zep. I heard (read)?him waxing lyrical about 'D'Yer Mak'Er'.
?
Jim.

--- On Sat, 31/1/09, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
Date: Saturday, 31 January, 2009, 8:43 PM

Henry Rollins of Black Flag, by the way (since they were invoked earlier) is a
huge fan of Ted Nugent, Van Halen and Aerosmith.

Alex in NYC


On Jan 31, 2009, at 3:16 PM, iPat wrote:

> I guess we all come here with different routes which is the lists
> strength, mine certainly is more ska, reggae/dub, punk
> for me something like Maiden or Led Zep is baffling, its alien to my
taste.
> Most grunge as well was boring, suitable only for landfill, with one
> or two exception. So it makes sense to see my route into say techno
> which others simply cant fathom.
> 
> glowsticks anyone? jah man
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Alexander Smith
<vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> 
>> And what, pray tell, is so wrong with Led Zep & Iron Maiden?
>> I'd also suggest that Black Flag were as much of an influence --
if not more
>> so -- on the first wave of Grunge bands (Mudhoney, Soundgarden, Green
River,
>> etc. etc.) as the bands you cite.
>> Whatever. Arguing over broken up bands of since-vanished genres and
dead
>> comedians is nothing worth getting hot under the collar about.
>> Alex in NYC
>> 
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From wessidetempest at hotmail.com  Sat Jan 31 17:04:23 2009
From: wessidetempest at hotmail.com (Christof hamille)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:04:23 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
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I'll tell you what is wrong

Zepplin sucks and Maiden RULEZ

From: vassifer at earthlink.net
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 14:44:09 -0500
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks


And what, pray tell, is so wrong with Led Zep & Iron Maiden? 
I'd also suggest that Black Flag were as much of an influence -- if not more so -- on the first wave of Grunge bands (Mudhoney, Soundgarden, Green River, etc. etc.) as the bands you cite.
Whatever. Arguing over broken up bands of since-vanished genres and dead comedians is nothing worth getting hot under the collar about.
Alex in NYC

On Jan 31, 2009, at 1:22 PM, GREG SLAWSON wrote:Finally a true brother, b! I've always hated grunge too, from the start--it paraded itself as the new "punk" but to me, it always sounded like Led Zep/Aerosmith/Iron Maiden, etc. --all the music punk was against! I'll take Blag Flag any day over that crap!

> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:01:54 +0100
> From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
> 
> On 1/31/09, ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > I think we got there due to me being sick of Alex trashing almost everyhing
> > I fucking post on this list, frankly. If he chips in, it's likely he's
> > telling me I'm WRONG. It's a good job he's a journalist - he's always
> > right...
> 
> You know, i have to agree with his viewpoint on Denis Leary. No Cure
> For Cancer was good, his performance on MTV Live was ace, but
> everything after that was boring crap, including his half arsed movie
> career.
> 
> As for Soundgarden vs Stone Temple Pilots, you can take them both and
> flush tem out the toilet, along with every fucking band that sounds
> even REMOTELY like any of them. The ONLY band EVER out of the whole
> "grunge" wave EVER worth more than two shits is Tribe After Tribe from
> South Africa, the rest can go autocopulate, devour feces and perish!
> 
> 
> b
> Grunge hater since day one
> _______________________________________________
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From pmdavies at gmail.com  Sat Jan 31 17:24:51 2009
From: pmdavies at gmail.com (iPat)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:24:51 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
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not what i said,
i never referred to year zero, although i don't really know what you
mean exactly by that.

My point is that while we can sometimes take ourselves out to
different genres where one or two finds may be the exception, you will
generally be disposed to what you initially were turned on by. I may
have a few 'metal' tracks in my collection but in general im more
likely to default to where my journey really started, which is
naturally influenced by the peer group at the time.

For me, where i was in the UK at that time, it was the early 70's
skinhead music which set me off due to my peers influence. I've never
worn a rocker style leather jacket synonymous with rock music. The
status quo rocker scene was the antithesis of my 'culture' and the
music was abhorrent. That's not to say i don't have the odd early
AC/DC or Pink Floyd track and you know my feelings on Rush. Whether
any so called celeb is into a band has no effect on me but can
titillate others to no end. That's people for you.

I had a branch of industrial music that went off with mainly psychick
tv but a lot of krautrock' industrial stuff didn't interest me as
Orbital or Spiral tribe held little interest for Metallica fans. In
fact my PTV collection is quite large with all the literature that i
had and i think i will give it a suitable collector. Flat mates at the
time fcking hated it, unable to understand my hysterics when 'Jesus
Christ Walks on Water' was blasted out the window on number 10 volume
control to the neighborhood.

The crux of the matter though, is that the more i experience a wider
scope of music, i find myself defaulting to the original inspirations.
Whether you find the same is irrelevant in that you are you and of
course your experiences will be unique to your disposition. I'll wager
there is a disposition though. A recent remark on someone on this list
in private correspondence has also shown him to deferring to his
Groundhogs, Hawkwind, Todd Rundgren, Peter Green Fleetwood Mac. All of
which i find completely abhorrent unless i want to pretend to be a
music snob and pretend there's some intellectual relevance to it.
there's not, i simply dont get off on it.

It's like gigs, it simply amazes me that i can go to gigs and there's
never a fight anymore......where are the balls ; )

So whilst you may not agree with it, it is because i am not you as you
are not me. I'm right though and i blame it on mother..........   : 0

On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> I never fully subscribed to all that 'Year Zero' stuff. I love lots of
> metal. I adore Punk Rock. I like an unwieldy dollop of so-called 'classic
> rock.' I like bits of reggae. I like a lot of dance music. There's more than
> enough crap that I *don't* like, but at the end of the day, music is music.
> I'm too old to define myself by any single genre anymore.
>
> Henry Rollins of Black Flag, by the way (since they were invoked earlier) is
> a huge fan of Ted Nugent, Van Halen and Aerosmith.
>
> Alex in NYC

From vassifer at earthlink.net  Sat Jan 31 17:44:27 2009
From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alexander Smith)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:44:27 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
In-Reply-To: <1646350c0901311424w6d2ca965q94b95129bbb23c73@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072376@mr-pants.the-lab.local>
	<d4b79f970901310801t4a1da039u1ffc18f0116ca45d@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY125-W27355CF246BB425BC24D30A9C70@phx.gbl>
	<6461981F-3B5A-4900-90AB-B079CC74BA96@earthlink.net>
	<1646350c0901311216mf52c824tc62ca2fdc8cc3243@mail.gmail.com>
	<C24430C3-4412-4198-B117-6CF5D01A5909@earthlink.net>
	<1646350c0901311424w6d2ca965q94b95129bbb23c73@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0CFDE267-4200-4E0E-8EBB-66199AE47DE6@earthlink.net>

I wasn't referring to YOU when I alluded to Year Zero. "Year Zero" is  
shorthand for Punk Rock's myopic scorched earth policy of renouncing  
all that came before it.

Everyone on this list needs to chill the hell out a little bit.

Alex in NYC



On Jan 31, 2009, at 5:24 PM, iPat wrote:

> not what i said,
> i never referred to year zero, although i don't really know what you
> mean exactly by that.
>
> My point is that while we can sometimes take ourselves out to
> different genres where one or two finds may be the exception, you will
> generally be disposed to what you initially were turned on by. I may
> have a few 'metal' tracks in my collection but in general im more
> likely to default to where my journey really started, which is
> naturally influenced by the peer group at the time.
>
> For me, where i was in the UK at that time, it was the early 70's
> skinhead music which set me off due to my peers influence. I've never
> worn a rocker style leather jacket synonymous with rock music. The
> status quo rocker scene was the antithesis of my 'culture' and the
> music was abhorrent. That's not to say i don't have the odd early
> AC/DC or Pink Floyd track and you know my feelings on Rush. Whether
> any so called celeb is into a band has no effect on me but can
> titillate others to no end. That's people for you.
>
> I had a branch of industrial music that went off with mainly psychick
> tv but a lot of krautrock' industrial stuff didn't interest me as
> Orbital or Spiral tribe held little interest for Metallica fans. In
> fact my PTV collection is quite large with all the literature that i
> had and i think i will give it a suitable collector. Flat mates at the
> time fcking hated it, unable to understand my hysterics when 'Jesus
> Christ Walks on Water' was blasted out the window on number 10 volume
> control to the neighborhood.
>
> The crux of the matter though, is that the more i experience a wider
> scope of music, i find myself defaulting to the original inspirations.
> Whether you find the same is irrelevant in that you are you and of
> course your experiences will be unique to your disposition. I'll wager
> there is a disposition though. A recent remark on someone on this list
> in private correspondence has also shown him to deferring to his
> Groundhogs, Hawkwind, Todd Rundgren, Peter Green Fleetwood Mac. All of
> which i find completely abhorrent unless i want to pretend to be a
> music snob and pretend there's some intellectual relevance to it.
> there's not, i simply dont get off on it.
>
> It's like gigs, it simply amazes me that i can go to gigs and there's
> never a fight anymore......where are the balls ; )
>
> So whilst you may not agree with it, it is because i am not you as you
> are not me. I'm right though and i blame it on mother..........   : 0
>
> On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net 
> > wrote:
>>
>> I never fully subscribed to all that 'Year Zero' stuff. I love lots  
>> of
>> metal. I adore Punk Rock. I like an unwieldy dollop of so-called  
>> 'classic
>> rock.' I like bits of reggae. I like a lot of dance music. There's  
>> more than
>> enough crap that I *don't* like, but at the end of the day, music  
>> is music.
>> I'm too old to define myself by any single genre anymore.
>>
>> Henry Rollins of Black Flag, by the way (since they were invoked  
>> earlier) is
>> a huge fan of Ted Nugent, Van Halen and Aerosmith.
>>
>> Alex in NYC
> _______________________________________________
> Gathering mailing list
> Gathering at misera.net
> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering


From pmdavies at gmail.com  Sat Jan 31 17:57:21 2009
From: pmdavies at gmail.com (iPat)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:57:21 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
In-Reply-To: <0CFDE267-4200-4E0E-8EBB-66199AE47DE6@earthlink.net>
References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072376@mr-pants.the-lab.local>
	<d4b79f970901310801t4a1da039u1ffc18f0116ca45d@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY125-W27355CF246BB425BC24D30A9C70@phx.gbl>
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	<1646350c0901311216mf52c824tc62ca2fdc8cc3243@mail.gmail.com>
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sorry Alex that you felt i was antagonised by your mail
I wasnt - far from it. With my sitting at home killing the hours i
have spent some time observing this phenomina, where i have an
abundance of music yet i default to...well i wont repeat myself.

yearzero - It was though because you replied to my mail that i felt it
was intended for me. Not that i took it as an attack. I thought that
was the meaning, but since id already put other genres before punk it
did confuse the issue. If i had teh year zero then i wouldn't have
referred to ska and reggae

does anyone know where to pick up a good condition crombie coat? Ebay
are all to small in size for me.

On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Alexander Smith
<vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
> I wasn't referring to YOU when I alluded to Year Zero. "Year Zero" is
> shorthand for Punk Rock's myopic scorched earth policy of renouncing all
> that came before it.
>
> Everyone on this list needs to chill the hell out a little bit.
>
> Alex in NYC

From vassifer at earthlink.net  Sat Jan 31 18:09:11 2009
From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alexander Smith)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:09:11 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT: was Bill Hicks now is apology
In-Reply-To: <1646350c0901311457j497fbb73hf744e878a1b0c5a3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072376@mr-pants.the-lab.local>
	<d4b79f970901310801t4a1da039u1ffc18f0116ca45d@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY125-W27355CF246BB425BC24D30A9C70@phx.gbl>
	<6461981F-3B5A-4900-90AB-B079CC74BA96@earthlink.net>
	<1646350c0901311216mf52c824tc62ca2fdc8cc3243@mail.gmail.com>
	<C24430C3-4412-4198-B117-6CF5D01A5909@earthlink.net>
	<1646350c0901311424w6d2ca965q94b95129bbb23c73@mail.gmail.com>
	<0CFDE267-4200-4E0E-8EBB-66199AE47DE6@earthlink.net>
	<1646350c0901311457j497fbb73hf744e878a1b0c5a3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <35B85215-2D81-4A83-B4FA-2047D8FA46E2@earthlink.net>


No, iPat (and Ade) -- I'm sorry. I've been under a lot of stress  
lately, so perhaps that's coming out in my posts here. Sorry to come  
across like a smarmy knowitall, if that's what I've been doing (it's  
certainly happened before). Money's a bit short here at the moment,  
and there are pressures in both the work place and the home. Apologies  
again.

Cheers,
Alex in NYC



On Jan 31, 2009, at 5:57 PM, iPat wrote:

> sorry Alex that you felt i was antagonised by your mail
> I wasnt - far from it. With my sitting at home killing the hours i
> have spent some time observing this phenomina, where i have an
> abundance of music yet i default to...well i wont repeat myself.
>
> yearzero - It was though because you replied to my mail that i felt it
> was intended for me. Not that i took it as an attack. I thought that
> was the meaning, but since id already put other genres before punk it
> did confuse the issue. If i had teh year zero then i wouldn't have
> referred to ska and reggae
>
> does anyone know where to pick up a good condition crombie coat? Ebay
> are all to small in size for me.
>
> On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Alexander Smith
> <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> I wasn't referring to YOU when I alluded to Year Zero. "Year Zero" is
>> shorthand for Punk Rock's myopic scorched earth policy of  
>> renouncing all
>> that came before it.
>>
>> Everyone on this list needs to chill the hell out a little bit.
>>
>> Alex in NYC
> _______________________________________________
> Gathering mailing list
> Gathering at misera.net
> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering


From pmdavies at gmail.com  Sat Jan 31 18:37:18 2009
From: pmdavies at gmail.com (iPat)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:37:18 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT: was Bill Hicks now is apology
In-Reply-To: <35B85215-2D81-4A83-B4FA-2047D8FA46E2@earthlink.net>
References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072376@mr-pants.the-lab.local>
	<d4b79f970901310801t4a1da039u1ffc18f0116ca45d@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY125-W27355CF246BB425BC24D30A9C70@phx.gbl>
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	<0CFDE267-4200-4E0E-8EBB-66199AE47DE6@earthlink.net>
	<1646350c0901311457j497fbb73hf744e878a1b0c5a3@mail.gmail.com>
	<35B85215-2D81-4A83-B4FA-2047D8FA46E2@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1646350c0901311537v2be9085ha42967a9282c90cb@mail.gmail.com>

Nothing to apologise for

I was simply interested in the discussion

On 1/31/09, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> No, iPat (and Ade) -- I'm sorry. I've been under a lot of stress
> lately, so perhaps that's coming out inwhat I've been doing (it's
> certainly happened before). Money's a bit short here at the moment,
> and there are pressures in both the work place and the home. Apologies
> again.
>
> Cheers,
> Alex in NYC
>
>
>
> On Jan 31, 2009, at 5:57 PM, iPat wrote:
>
>> sorry Alex that you felt i was antagonised by your mail
>> I wasnt - far from it. With my sitting at home killing the hours i
>> have spent some time observing

From dpeace at bigfoot.com  Sat Jan 31 18:57:06 2009
From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:57:06 -0000
Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
In-Reply-To: <0CFDE267-4200-4E0E-8EBB-66199AE47DE6@earthlink.net>
References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072376@mr-pants.the-lab.local>	<d4b79f970901310801t4a1da039u1ffc18f0116ca45d@mail.gmail.com>	<BAY125-W27355CF246BB425BC24D30A9C70@phx.gbl>	<6461981F-3B5A-4900-90AB-B079CC74BA96@earthlink.net>	<1646350c0901311216mf52c824tc62ca2fdc8cc3243@mail.gmail.com>	<C24430C3-4412-4198-B117-6CF5D01A5909@earthlink.net>	<1646350c0901311424w6d2ca965q94b95129bbb23c73@mail.gmail.com>
	<0CFDE267-4200-4E0E-8EBB-66199AE47DE6@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <027501c983ff$9f9c9cb0$ded5d610$@com>

Maybe not everyone.

 

I don't like Soundgarden much. I found the early, squealy albums unpleasant,
and the last one dull and contrived. I actually like the first STP album
more than all but "Superunknown", and think that Soundgarden looked really,
really silly.

 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f4/Sg91promo.jpg

 

But that means nothing other than that it's how I feel. No-one here has any
disproportionate force behind their views, imnsho, even the irritating,
bombastic ones like me.

 

I still think Axl should be peeled, though.

 

Darren

Hungerford, UK

 

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Alexander Smith
Sent: 31 January 2009 22:44
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

I wasn't referring to YOU when I alluded to Year Zero. "Year Zero" is  

shorthand for Punk Rock's myopic scorched earth policy of renouncing  

all that came before it.

 

Everyone on this list needs to chill the hell out a little bit.

 

Alex in NYC

 

 

 

On Jan 31, 2009, at 5:24 PM, iPat wrote:

 

> not what i said,

> i never referred to year zero, although i don't really know what you

> mean exactly by that.

> 

> My point is that while we can sometimes take ourselves out to

> different genres where one or two finds may be the exception, you will

> generally be disposed to what you initially were turned on by. I may

> have a few 'metal' tracks in my collection but in general im more

> likely to default to where my journey really started, which is

> naturally influenced by the peer group at the time.

> 

> For me, where i was in the UK at that time, it was the early 70's

> skinhead music which set me off due to my peers influence. I've never

> worn a rocker style leather jacket synonymous with rock music. The

> status quo rocker scene was the antithesis of my 'culture' and the

> music was abhorrent. That's not to say i don't have the odd early

> AC/DC or Pink Floyd track and you know my feelings on Rush. Whether

> any so called celeb is into a band has no effect on me but can

> titillate others to no end. That's people for you.

> 

> I had a branch of industrial music that went off with mainly psychick

> tv but a lot of krautrock' industrial stuff didn't interest me as

> Orbital or Spiral tribe held little interest for Metallica fans. In

> fact my PTV collection is quite large with all the literature that i

> had and i think i will give it a suitable collector. Flat mates at the

> time fcking hated it, unable to understand my hysterics when 'Jesus

> Christ Walks on Water' was blasted out the window on number 10 volume

> control to the neighborhood.

> 

> The crux of the matter though, is that the more i experience a wider

> scope of music, i find myself defaulting to the original inspirations.

> Whether you find the same is irrelevant in that you are you and of

> course your experiences will be unique to your disposition. I'll wager

> there is a disposition though. A recent remark on someone on this list

> in private correspondence has also shown him to deferring to his

> Groundhogs, Hawkwind, Todd Rundgren, Peter Green Fleetwood Mac. All of

> which i find completely abhorrent unless i want to pretend to be a

> music snob and pretend there's some intellectual relevance to it.

> there's not, i simply dont get off on it.

> 

> It's like gigs, it simply amazes me that i can go to gigs and there's

> never a fight anymore......where are the balls ; )

> 

> So whilst you may not agree with it, it is because i am not you as you

> are not me. I'm right though and i blame it on mother..........   : 0

> 

> On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net 

> > wrote:

>> 

>> I never fully subscribed to all that 'Year Zero' stuff. I love lots  

>> of

>> metal. I adore Punk Rock. I like an unwieldy dollop of so-called  

>> 'classic

>> rock.' I like bits of reggae. I like a lot of dance music. There's  

>> more than

>> enough crap that I *don't* like, but at the end of the day, music  

>> is music.

>> I'm too old to define myself by any single genre anymore.

>> 

>> Henry Rollins of Black Flag, by the way (since they were invoked  

>> earlier) is

>> a huge fan of Ted Nugent, Van Halen and Aerosmith.

>> 

>> Alex in NYC

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From vassifer at earthlink.net  Sat Jan 31 12:06:11 2009
From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alexander Smith)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:06:11 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks
In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072376@mr-pants.the-lab.local>
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If you're self-conscious enough to interpret my opinions as more valid  
than anyone else's, that's your own neurosis at work.

Alex in NYC


On Jan 31, 2009, at 10:54 AM, ade wrote:

> I think we got there due to me being sick of Alex trashing almost  
> everyhing I fucking post on this list, frankly. If he chips in, it's  
> likely he's telling me I'm WRONG. It's a good job he's a journalist  
> - he's always right...
>
> Whiney, maybe, but it gets just a little bit tiresome.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net 
> ]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
> Sent: 31 January 2009 08:44
> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'; 'Alex Smith'
> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
>
> Oh no how?d we get into this? I thought I was raising an in joke  
> between Ade and me re SG vs STP to a) illustrate how I felt about  
> Hicks vs Leary, and b) make sure that it was taken light-heartedly?
>
> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net 
> ] On Behalf Of ade
> Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 08:40
> To: Alex Smith; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
>
> > PS: Soundgarden is, was, and e'er shall be LIGHT YEARS better than  
> STP.
>
> I'm sure they are mate, but how do I *make* myself like Soundgarden  
> & not like STP ?  What I actually said was that I preferred STP is  
> all. I'm supposed to be wrong, how?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net 
> ]On Behalf Of Alex Smith
> Sent: 30 January 2009 21:09
> To: ade; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
> I saw Leary perform 'No Cure for Cancer' live in a tiny club in the  
> West Village, thanks.
>
> Hicks is funny, but has since become deified to ridiculous degrees.  
> Also, Hicks had a tiresomely sanctimonious quality to his work which  
> made me enjoy it less than Leary's.
>
> My opinion.
>
> Alex in NYC
>
> PS: Soundgarden is, was, and e'er shall be LIGHT YEARS better than  
> STP.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ade
> Sent: Jan 30, 2009 3:30 PM
> To: Alex Smith , "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> Subject: RE: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
>
>
> I get the feeling you've not actually seen the material that I argue  
> (amongst many others) Leary
> clearly ripped from Hicks. In that case, how can you pass judgement?
>
> I loved Leary's 'No Cure for Cancer', until I got into Hicks. I  
> couldn't believe I was hearing the
> same jokes VERY DISTINCTIVE jokes being repeated right back at me -  
> that totally destroyed
> No Cure for cancer for me.
>
> Keep your fingers in your ears, it's only my opinion.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net 
> ]On Behalf Of Alex Smith
> Sent: 30 January 2009 18:38
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about  
> all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
> The perils and ramifications of smoking aren't really "niche"  
> material. You may not like Dennis Leary -- fair enough -- but to  
> accuse him of ripping off Hicks in that capacity is pretty unfair.
>
> Alex in NYC
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brendan Quinn
> Sent: Jan 30, 2009 12:46 PM
> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"
> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
>
>
> We were comparing them because they covered similar material, that  
> I?m pretty sure Hicks came up with and Leary stole. Specifically the  
> voicebox gag. I could be wrong, but that?s the accusation.
>
> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net 
> ] On Behalf Of Alex Smith
> Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 03:59
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about  
> all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
>
> You seem to be equating them merely on the fact that they're both  
> "angry" comedians. That's not much to go on. I mean, why not toss  
> Don Rickles into the mix too, then?
>
> Alex in NYC
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brendan Quinn
> Sent: Jan 30, 2009 10:31 AM
> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"
> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
>
>
>
> Not a fair comparison?because?
>
> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net 
> ] On Behalf Of Alexander Smith
> Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 23:15
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
>
>
> Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks  
> was capable of being. I love both, but it's not really a fair  
> comparison.
>
> Alex in NYC
>
>
>
> On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots
>
> If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=?
>
> Please show working.
>
> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net 
> ] On Behalf Of ade
> Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
>
> LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;)
>
> From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's  
> transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is  
> Denis Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because  
> there's no cure for cancer"'
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net 
> ]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
> Sent: 29 January 2009 04:57
> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
> The only other comedians I?d put in that category (and none as good  
> as Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who?s a  
> surprising find actually.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8
>
> PS: I haven?t watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but  
> from memory it?s pretty cool.
>
> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net 
> ] On Behalf Of Bette Dillinger
> Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
>
>
> Hey everyone!
>     Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it.  In the  
> US David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST  
> the routine of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994  
> because it was considered too "controversial".  The routine that  
> sullied his relationship with the media to a degree.
>
> His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal  
> executor of the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but  
> then you can't make this shit up.).........
> Damn, it has been 14 years!  Are there any comedians that are flying  
> under the radar that should be checked out?  I am still looking for  
> one whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour.
>
> Bette
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