[kj] OT: Bill Hicks

[Christof hamille]

I've seen it

I've heard it

I own it

I understand.

but to me it's a bit.......obvious.
He's an influence.  So are the Rolling Stones, Picaso, etc etc.

If an artist uses that influence note for note then that is just laziness.  OR not talented enough to put their own style into it.  Of curse Bill Hicks was upset.  At that point  he was still alive and active.  If Lenny Bruce was still alive he could be mad.  You could also say the same thing about Doug Stanhope. 

he has been dead for over a decade.  Sad but true.

Chris


Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:30:39 +0000
From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk
To: vassifer at earthlink.net; gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks












I get the feeling 
you've not actually seen the material that I argue (amongst many others) 
Leary
clearly ripped from 
Hicks. In that case, how can you pass judgement?
 
I loved Leary's 'No Cure for 
Cancer', until I got into Hicks. I couldn't believe I was hearing 
the
same jokes VERY DISTINCTIVE 
jokes being repeated right back at me - that totally 
destroyed
No Cure for cancer for 
me.
 
Keep your fingers in your ears, 
it's only my opinion.

  -----Original Message-----
From: 
  gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf 
  Of Alex Smith
Sent: 30 January 2009 18:38
To: A list 
  about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about all things Killing 
  Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill 
  Hicks


  The perils and ramifications of smoking aren't really "niche" material. You 
  may not like Dennis Leary -- fair enough -- but to accuse him of ripping off 
  Hicks in that capacity is pretty unfair.
  Alex in NYC



  -----Original 
    Message----- 
From: Brendan Quinn 
Sent: Jan 
    30, 2009 12:46 PM 
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the 
    band!)'" 
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks 
    


    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    We were comparing 
    them because they covered similar material, that I’m pretty sure Hicks came 
    up with and Leary stole. Specifically the voicebox gag. I could be wrong, 
    but that’s the accusation.
     
    
    
    
    
    From: 
    gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alex Smith
Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 
    03:59
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 
    'A list about all things Killing 
    Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill 
    Hicks
     
    You seem to be 
    equating them merely on the fact that they're both "angry" comedians. That's 
    not much to go on. I mean, why not toss Don Rickles into the mix too, 
    then?
    Alex in 
    NYC


    
      -----Original 
      Message----- 
From: Brendan Quinn 
Sent: Jan 
      30, 2009 10:31 AM 
To: "'A list about all 
      things Killing Joke (the band!)'" 
      
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks 
      



      Not a fair 
      comparison…because? 
       
      
      
      
      
      From: 
      gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] 
      On Behalf Of Alexander 
      Smith
Sent: Friday, 30 
      January 2009 23:15
To: 
      A list about all 
      things Killing Joke (the 
      band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] 
      OT: Bill Hicks
       
      
       
      
      Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest 
      and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks was capable of being. I love both, but 
      it's not really a fair 
      comparison. 
      
       
      
      Alex in 
      NYC
      
       
      
       
       
      
      
      On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan 
      Quinn wrote:
      



      
      
      
      Let 
      Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots  
      
       
      
      If 
      Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then 
      Leary=?
      
       
      
      Please show 
      working.
      
       
      
      
      
      
      
      From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade
Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 
      07:24
To: A list about all things 
      Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill 
      Hicks
      
       
      
      
      LOL, don't forget 
      Denis Leary ;)
      
      
       
      
      
      From wikipeedo: 
      'an industry 
      joke began to circulate about Leary's transformation and subsequent 
      success (roughly; "Question: Why is Denis Leary a star while Bill Hicks is 
      unknown? Answer: Because there's no cure for cancer"'
      
        
        -----Original 
        Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan 
        Quinn
Sent: 29 January 2009 
        04:57
To: 'A list about all things Killing 
        Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill 
        Hicks
        
        The only other 
        comedians I’d put in that category (and none as good as Hicks) would be 
        George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who’s a surprising find 
        actually.
        
         
        
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8
        
         
        
        PS: I haven’t 
        watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but from memory it’s 
        pretty cool.
        
         
        
        
        
        
        
        From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Bette 
        Dillinger
Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 
        12:34
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] OT: Bill 
        Hicks
        
         
        
        
Hey 
        everyone!
    Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna 
        try to catch it.  In the US David Letterman will be showing on 
        Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the routine of Bill Hicks' that was never 
        aired by Letterman in 1994 because it was considered too 
        "controversial".  The routine that sullied his relationship with 
        the media to a degree.  
 
His mother Mary will 
        also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of the estate is 
        the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make this 
        shit up.).........
Damn, it has been 14 years!  Are there any 
        comedians that are flying under the radar that should be checked 
        out?  I am still looking for one whose voice is so resonant with 
        truth and 
        humour.
 
Bette       
        
        
        
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