[kj] OT: Bill Hicks

[ade]

I think we got there due to me being sick of Alex trashing almost everyhing I fucking post on this list, frankly. If he chips in, it's likely he's telling me I'm WRONG. It's a good job he's a journalist - he's always right...
 
Whiney, maybe, but it gets just a little bit tiresome.

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
Sent: 31 January 2009 08:44
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'; 'Alex Smith'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks



Oh no how'd we get into this? I thought I was raising an in joke between Ade and me re SG vs STP to a) illustrate how I felt about Hicks vs Leary, and b) make sure that it was taken light-heartedly... 

 


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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade
Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 08:40
To: Alex Smith; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 


> PS: Soundgarden is, was, and e'er shall be LIGHT YEARS better than STP.


 

I'm sure they are mate, but how do I *make* myself like Soundgarden & not like STP ?  What I actually said was that I preferred STP is all. I'm supposed to be wrong, how?

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Alex Smith
Sent: 30 January 2009 21:09
To: ade; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

I saw Leary perform 'No Cure for Cancer' live in a tiny club in the West Village, thanks.

Hicks is funny, but has since become deified to ridiculous degrees. Also, Hicks had a tiresomely sanctimonious quality to his work which made me enjoy it less than Leary's. 

My opinion.

Alex in NYC

PS: Soundgarden is, was, and e'er shall be LIGHT YEARS better than STP.




 

-----Original Message----- 
From: ade 
Sent: Jan 30, 2009 3:30 PM 
To: Alex Smith , "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
Subject: RE: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks 




I get the feeling you've not actually seen the material that I argue (amongst many others) Leary

clearly ripped from Hicks. In that case, how can you pass judgement?

 

I loved Leary's 'No Cure for Cancer', until I got into Hicks. I couldn't believe I was hearing the

same jokes VERY DISTINCTIVE jokes being repeated right back at me - that totally destroyed

No Cure for cancer for me.

 

Keep your fingers in your ears, it's only my opinion.

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Alex Smith
Sent: 30 January 2009 18:38
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

The perils and ramifications of smoking aren't really "niche" material. You may not like Dennis Leary -- fair enough -- but to accuse him of ripping off Hicks in that capacity is pretty unfair.

Alex in NYC



-----Original Message----- 
From: Brendan Quinn 
Sent: Jan 30, 2009 12:46 PM 
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" 
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks 




We were comparing them because they covered similar material, that I'm pretty sure Hicks came up with and Leary stole. Specifically the voicebox gag. I could be wrong, but that's the accusation.

 


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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alex Smith
Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 03:59
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

You seem to be equating them merely on the fact that they're both "angry" comedians. That's not much to go on. I mean, why not toss Don Rickles into the mix too, then?

Alex in NYC




-----Original Message----- 
From: Brendan Quinn 
Sent: Jan 30, 2009 10:31 AM 
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" 
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks 





Not a fair comparison...because? 

 


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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexander Smith
Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 23:15
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

 

Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks was capable of being. I love both, but it's not really a fair comparison. 

 

Alex in NYC

 

 

 

On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote:









Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots  

 

If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=?

 

Please show working.

 


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From:  gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade
Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;)

 


>From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is Denis Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because there's no cure for cancer"'


-----Original Message-----
From:  gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
Sent: 29 January 2009 04:57
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

The only other comedians I'd put in that category (and none as good as Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who's a surprising find actually.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8

 

PS: I haven't watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but from memory it's pretty cool.

 


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From:  gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Bette Dillinger
Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34
To:  gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 


Hey everyone!
    Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it.  In the US David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the routine of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994 because it was considered too "controversial".  The routine that sullied his relationship with the media to a degree.  
 
His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make this shit up.).........
Damn, it has been 14 years!  Are there any comedians that are flying under the radar that should be checked out?  I am still looking for one whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour.
 
Bette       


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