[kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead

[Stephen Lawrence]

err STILL not reading what you have written 

other gatherers pointed it out to you 

but i also noticed how you ignored other gatherers points made regarding jury service 

i can't be bothered to go into the details of the minor offence case 

i was not the only one voting against 

a juror reminds me of you when stating '' i wanna vote guilty as i haven't been on a case where that was unanimous yet '' 

never mind the fact you are dealing with a person's life 

police never lie do they ?
 


From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 13:55:02 +1000
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead




Check who you are dissing or get some new glasses...I'm gonna use that. 
 
Yes STFU means what you think it does. And I'm not apologising to Pete West, esp not after complimenting his SOH and comparing his english favourably to yours...I know that's damning with faint praise or whatever, but hey.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-NOZU2iPA8
 



From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, 1 July 2009 9:27 AM
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead


all i'm gonna say is check who you are dissing 
or get some new glasses 
testing the statement you made 
SHUT THE FUCK UP !!!!!!!
sorry ??? like fuck you are 
i suggest you read what you last wrote and apologise to the person mentioned 
 

> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 00:24:45 +1200

> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead

> 

> Christ you waffle a load of shit Chris.

> 

> Your first lines belie your 'nice' nature. I can take it on the chin when

> someone tells me to STFU or whatever, but pretending that you're holier

> than thou, when you demonstrate in your email what a hypocrite you

> are...sorry.

> 

> "never on this forum have i TOLD anyone how to live"

> 

> Actually you did and got shouted down and told to put a sock in it with

> the religious crap. Sigh...go on and deny it now of course.

> 

> "i do NOT consider myself hoilier than thou"

> 

> Yes, you do.

> 

> "i await the usual one word response"

> 

> Two emails out of hundreds doesn't constitute usual. touch of sarcasm?

> That's not positive now is it?

> 

> "when obviously the initial hostility was due to the belief i was pete west"

> 

> Obviously how? What are you on about now? The only confusion between you

> and Pete West is in the hopeless english, you're actually worse than he is

> as a matter of fact. Well done. Pete West is quite witty when he gets

> going too, I don't bite when he pops up anymore.

> 

> >

> > awww poor brendan

> >

> > hurt your feelings did i ?

> >

> > get over it

> >

> > you come across as an opinionated bully

> >

> > unless it fits in with your world view

> >

> > it must me torn down and stomped on

> >

> > never on this forum have i TOLD anyone how to live

> >

> > i HAVE defended what the bible teaches ,after seeing such rubbish written

> > about it [ or parts taken out of context ]

> >

> > i do NOT consider myself hoilier than thou as i KNOW that unless i

> > dramatically change my lifestyle i will NOT see the kingdom onearth

> >

> > i like life as it is even with all the pain suffering and death around me

> > and try to alleviate it in some small way

> >

> > NO i am not seeking your approval

> >

> > it would be interesting to see if you walk it like you talk it

> >

> > unlike others on the internet i do not adopt some sort of persona in order

> > to feel '' big behind the keyboard ''

> >

> > some gatherers have met me

> >

> > i leave them to give a hopefully honest appraiseal of me

> >

> > if they don't i shan't castigate them for it

> >

> > unlike others i admit to my faults

> >

> > i know i expect too much of others [ even of myself sometimes ]

> >

> > i DO endeavour to make my word my bond

> >

> > i enjoy violent video games but would never perpetrate it in real life

> >

> > i enjoy many types of music but do not force it down others throats

> >

> > i do not see artists as someone to worship and do NOT prescribe to the

> > cult of personality

> >

> > they are people just like me with good and bad points

> >

> > i stand by my statement regarding the scenarios i have NOT been in

> >

> > i have obviously lead a different life to you

> >

> > possibly charmed n some instances but it has had it's share of heartbreaks

> >

> > i do NOT seek sympathy from anyone

> >

> > i WILL seek guidance from friends and am not too proud to ask if i'm not

> > sure

> >

> > i await the usual one word response

> >

> > oh and intially i defended my view of killing joke

> >

> > i have learnt to respond only when needed or to acknowledge a kindness

> >

> > i do not bear grudges and am surprised that you would drag up the past

> > when obviously the initial hostility was due to the belief i was pete west

> >

> > oh well whatever floats your boat

> >

> >

> >

> > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

> > To: gathering at misera.net

> > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:41:31 +1000

> > Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > You're a great example of either what religion does to people's minds or

> > who is attracted to religion. Black and white thinking...negative thoughts

> > are BAD, ergo I don't have any. Oh but you do...

> >

> > In one of your first posts on this list you made a disparaging remark

> > about me, so all of your blather below is just that. What you think you

> > should be. Because a bunch of representatives of your collective imaginary

> > friend, who I might point out have a disproportionately high incidence of

> > molesting children, tell you is right, enforced with supernatural promises

> > and threats. Choose me or choose eternal flame...hrm, nice set of options.

> > Sounds like a plausible offer from a sane omnipotent entity.

> >

> > And if you're like the typical religious idiot there's about a 100% chance

> > that any evidence to the contrary will be refused entry into your nervous

> > system or twisted in such a way that it somehow fits the existing model.

> > No chance of challenging those convictions, that faith. That'd imply some

> > form of honesty and fallibility. God doesn't work that way!

> >

> >

> >

> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

> > On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence

> > Sent: Tuesday, 30 June 2009 4:47 AM

> > To: gathering at misera.net

> > Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead

> >

> >

> > i don't know why i'm bothering

> > but half the things you speak of do NOT apply to me

> > i do not recall being in any of the scenarios you speak of

> > regarding a boss i disliked i just told him what i thought and walked

> > i will NOT take shit

> > if i like something i say so and vice versa and i do not seek approval

> > from anyone

> > i have never delivered a speech

> > i have never tried ''to fit in ''

> > i wear something because it is pleasing to me ,NOT because it is

> > fashionable

> > i occaisionally pay homage to a particular vernacular because it raises a

> > laugh [ usually at my expense ] but i don't lose sleep over it

> > i'll admit picking my nose in my own time and in my own personal space

> > i have never laughed AT someone but prefer to laugh with someone [ except

> > in the instance of comedy ]

> >

> >

> >

> > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

> > To: gathering at misera.net

> > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:57:16 +1000

> > Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Never had a boss you weren't honest about disliking (lie by omission)? A

> > friend / partner / family member make a stupid decision or comment that

> > you smiled and bit your tongue to? A stupid joke you laughed along with

> > for reasons of social cohesion / subservience? Put on a brave face when

> > you wanted to cry or scream? Did your best not to look unhappy when being

> > teased or laughed at? Smiled and posed for a photo? Looked like a tougher

> > version of yourself when walking past thugs? Pretended not to give a shit

> > when someone said something that hurt? Pretended to be interested when

> > someone you like or thought worthy of respect was boring you? Heaped

> > praise on mediocre performance for what you thought were the right

> > reasons?

> >

> > Do you present the same way when delivering a speech as you do when you're

> > getting pissed with your mates? Do you wear clothes you don't like for

> > business or other reasons, to fit in? Never looked back in retrospect and

> > thought you were an idiot for trying to come across in a particular way to

> > impress someone else? Presented someone with your representative on a

> > date, as opposed to the real you? Waited until no one was around before

> > picking your nose?

> >

> > Ever found yourslf picking up someone else's vernacular because they have

> > a strong personality? Bought clothes or music or gadgets to 'fit in'? Or

> > to not fit in...

> >

> > Ever talked shit for an hour straight at a job interview or on a date?

> > Stifled laughter in order to not hurt someone else's feelings...? Tried

> > not to look physically disgusted at something / someone who disgusts you?

> >

> > Hrm...by my calculations, if the above is true then you're FULL OF SHIT.

> > Just like the rest of us (only slightly moreso ;)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

> > On Behalf Of jerry bodkin

> > Sent: Monday, 29 June 2009 11:27 PM

> > To: gathering at misera.net

> > Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead

> >

> >

> >

> > actually I DON'T

> >

> >

> > Same as, it leaves one a touch outspoken at times, but hey, f*£k it!

> >

> > Jelly...... melting

> >

> >

> > From: stephen.l at live.com

> > To: gathering at misera.net

> > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:49:21 +0000

> > Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead

> >

> >

> >

> > actually I DON'T

> >

> >> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:13:39 +1200

> >> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

> >> To: gathering at misera.net

> >> Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead

> >>

> >> Cos we all pretend we're something we're not.

> >>

> >> >

> >> > ...cos no one wants to say so to your face?

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > Keep Smiling...

> >> >

> >> > http://www.myspace.com/themodelaircraftmuseum

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > http://www.myspace.com/paulwadyexperience

> >> >

> >> > Autism also affects adults.

> >> > Most are isolated and ignored

> >> > Think. Act. Transform Lives.

> >> > www.think-differently.org.uk

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

> >> > To: gathering at misera.net

> >> > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:11:03 +1000

> >> > Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > It's damn near illegal and harshly looked down upon to talk bad about

> >> a

> >> > dead person

> >> >

> >> > Rraises some interesting questions for those who have an alternative

> >> set

> >> > of ethics as espoused by bands such as Killing Joke etc. From what

> >> I've

> >> > seen that tradition is given lip service but is full of holes to the

> >> > extent that people will find a way to talk about whatever they want.

> >> > Personally I've never really bought into it anyway so I don't feel any

> >> > compunctions either way.

> >> >

> >> > It doesn't generally apply to enemies

> >> > Doesn't apply to anyone who fits into any group it's currently

> >> fashionable

> >> > to dislike

> >> > It's okay to say exactly what you want if you preface your comments

> >> with

> >> > the assertion that you're only passing on what someone else said

> >> > It's behind closed doors and "just between us"

> >> > All bets are off when you've had a few drinks.

> >> > Lads / mates can talk about anything...

> >> > Partners can talk about whatever they want

> >> > It sells copy, I don't make the news I just print it...I'm just doing

> >> my

> >> > job. I'm just filling a demand, don't blame me I don't buy the

> >> tabloids I

> >> > just make them...

> >> >

> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUXBCdt5IPg

> >> >

> >> > WHY CAN'T WE JUST ADMIT IT.

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

> >> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

> >> > On Behalf Of sade1

> >> > Sent: Monday, 29 June 2009 10:11 AM

> >> > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> >> > Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >> ...none of the...ass-kissing pieces of tripe that I've read actually

> >> >> mention his court cases and... settlements...

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > It's damn near illegal and harshly looked down upon to talk bad about

> >> a

> >> > dead person, even if they deliberately were a major asshole in real

> >> > life.** Even worse when it seems it was all a tragic accidental death

> >> (so

> >> > they're saying).

> >> > Worse now that his doctor has lawyered up i don't think they'll have a

> >> > straight answer on anything until legal and insurance cases have been

> >> > settled.

> >> >

> >> > **besides, even now, television ratings are everything.

> >> >

> >> > I would like to see any one of his lawyers write a tell-all about any

> >> or

> >> > all of MJ's cases and settlements. Would reveal lots.

> >> >

> >> > ... ... ... ... ... ...

> >> >

> >> > [looking at the current state of things..]

> >> >

> >> > 'Save me...

> >> > save me from Tomorrow..

> >> > I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > From: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>

> >> > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> >> > <gathering at misera.net>

> >> > Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 10:05:26 AM

> >> > Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > Aside from the implication that paedophiles are okay if they've also

> >> > written some nice songs, my main grievance about this whole bloody

> >> circus

> >> > is the media conspiracy to hush-up his charming recreational

> >> activities. I

> >> > could be wrong, but none of the eulogies, bios and ass-kissing pieces

> >> of

> >> > tripe that I've read actually mention his court cases and

> >> multi-million

> >> > dollar out-of-court settlements. The closest any of them have come was

> >> a

> >> > sheepish remark that "[his] later life was dogged by legal problems".

> >> > Since when did being arrested count as a 'legal problem'? That makes

> >> it

> >> > sound like some boundary dispute with a neigbour, or at worst a little

> >> > income-tax evasion..

> >> >

> >> > It's disgraceful. If Gary Glitter had actually written some

> >> half-decent

> >> > songs, does that mean he was really a nice guy? When he dies do we all

> >> > have to agree not to mention his child molestation in case it offends

> >> > someone?

> >> >

> >> > Jim.

> >> >

> >> > --- On Sun, 28/6/09, Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > It's all fucking meaningless. People have been force-fed this inane

> >> > bologna for years that MJ was some sort of "genius' (the most abused

> >> word

> >> > in the English language). Pile of fucking crap.

> >> > I'm sick of it.

> >> >

> >> > Alex in NYC

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > -----Original Message-----

> >> > From: jerry bodkin

> >> > Sent: Jun 28, 2009 11:24 AM

> >> > To: gathering at misera.net

> >> > Subject: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk

> >> > To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk

> >> > Subject: RE: [kj] Michael Jackson dead

> >> > Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:24:17 +0100

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > If his fans liked his music, why didnt they have the c.d's, downloads

> >> etc

> >> > already? Why the sudden rush to purchase and d/load. Somethings smells

> >> > and dont just mean his corpse!

> >> >

> >> > Jelly.

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > From: dpeace at bigfoot.com

> >> > To: gathering at misera.net

> >> > Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:07:37 +0100

> >> > Subject: Re: [kj] Michael Jackson dead

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > Oh Christ.

> >> >

> >> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8123085.stm

> >> >

> >> > Darren

> >> > Hungerford, UK

> >> >

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