[kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead - ENOUGH!!!!

[Brendan]

Okay i think I can do better (worse) than MJ. I'm gonna throw it out
there, see if we can plumb the bottom of the barrel.

Tiffany.


> "the music that spoke to me served as the ANTIDOTE to the slick, soulless,

> meaningless sonic offal that was Michael Jackson's product."

>

> Wow, we've seen a lot of things being levelled at Wacko, but soulless????

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

> On Behalf Of Alex Smith

> Sent: 01 July 2009 14:41

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); A list about all

> things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead - ENOUGH!!!!

>

>

> Boys,....

>

> Can we just let this die already? Also -- and this is just my request --

> can we drop the whole Michael Jackson discussion? Aren't you all getting

> enough of that bullshit elsewhere? Aren't we already inundated with more

> revisionist shite about that slavishly overrated bag of filth?

>

> Personally speaking, I was NEVER a fan of MJ -- be he a child molester or

> not (he was, by the way, just admit it!) Growing up, the music that spoke

> to me served as the ANTIDOTE to the slick, soulless, meaningless sonic

> offal that was Michael Jackson's product.

>

> Michael Jackson is the veritable antithesis of Killing Joke, in my mind.

> Let's not lower our standards by discussing him further.

>

> Just my two cents.

> Alex in NYC

>

>

>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

>>From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

>>Sent: Jul 1, 2009 9:32 AM

>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

>><gathering at misera.net>

>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW:  Michael Jackson dead

>>

>>>

>>> do i have to spell it out to you ?

>>>

>>> YOU WERE CALLING ME CHRIS

>>

>>I was only trying to get you closer to Christ, sheesh, chill out.

>>

>>> other gatherers pointed this out

>>>

>>> you ignored it

>>

>>Don't call other gatherers it, they have names.

>>

>>> i am not going to explain  myself as i am a bullshitter in your eyes

>>

>>My point was that everyone is a bullshitter in a sense, actually, and I

>>don't believe people who say they aren't. Don't read too much into

>>someone saying "bullshit" to you on the internets either, in a

>>discussion about bullshit (?!). I can't put a smiley on every single

>> thing I say...

>>

>>> and frankly i can't be bothered

>>

>>So stop replying then...

>>

>>> i have better things to do

>>

>>Fair enough, start doing them, with gusto, verve and vim.

>>

>>> i notice you like to give shit but can't take it

>>

>>You're not supposed to be dishing out shit, your'e supposed to be

>>turning the other cheek and forgiving...what version of the bible are

>>you running off? Not the one I grew up with (and defaced ;)

>>

>>> ever heard the glass houses proverb ?

>>

>>Yeah, ever heard the one about the...oh, I can't tell that one. Or most

>>others I know...they've all got priests or nuns in them.

>>

>>> i don't recall many gatherers [ if any ] defending your attack on me

>>

>>I'm not looking for anyone to defend my opinion. For what it's worth

>>though Darren saw my point. But we really shouldn't involve the kids in

>>our arguments.

>>

>>>

>>> but then again you are pretty blinkered

>>

>>You have the universe all wrapped up already, I openly state that I

>>don't know fuck all. Next stupid comment please.

>>

>>> don't wanna burst your bubble but soundgarden are NOT the only good

>>> band

>>on the planet

>>

>>Now that's just funny, esp after I accidentally called you Chris :)

>>

>>Look, sorry for getting your name wrong, I blitz through emails and

>>ones I don't understand at a glance (there's a lot on this list, due to

>>in jokes and regional references and bands I don't know etc) I delete

>>quickly, I vaguely remember someone pointing out something about it but

>> didn't click.

>>Or I did click but on the delete button. Big deal.

>>

>>

>>>> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 23:47:29 +1200

>>>> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

>>>> To: gathering at misera.net

>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead

>>>>

>>>> err STILL not reading what you have written

>>>>

>>>> Indeed. But you still comment on it, how fair.

>>>>

>>>> other gatherers pointed it out to you

>>>>

>>>> Other gatherers ventured their opinion on both sides, actually.

>>>>

>>>> > but i also noticed how you ignored other gatherers points made

>>>> regarding

>>>> > jury service

>>>>

>>>> What points did I ignore, I thought I answered in full. But how

>>>> would you know when you're not reading my posts?

>>>>

>>>> > i can't be bothered to go into the details of the minor offence

>>>> > case

>>>> >

>>>> > i was not the only one voting against

>>>>

>>>> You still haven't said what kind of case it was and whether you

>>>> decided based on evidence or as soon as you had doubt, which is what

>>>> you originally said, and haven't corrected, so I assume is the case.

>>>> That was my whole point. You can't sniff doubt on one side or the

>>>> other and make up your mind then and there without hearing the rest

>>>> of the evidence.

>>>>

>>>> > a juror reminds me of you when stating '' i wanna vote guilty as i

>>>> haven't

>>>> > been on a case where that was unanimous yet ''

>>>>

>>>> Don't understand you or the comment, and putting words in someone

>>>> else's mouth isn't a legitimite way to argue a point.

>>>>

>>>> > never mind the fact you are dealing with a person's life

>>>>

>>>> When are you not?

>>>>

>>>> > police never lie do they ?

>>>>

>>>> You obviously haven't read my posts about the police.

>>>>

>>>> >

>>>> >

>>>> >

>>>> > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

>>>> > To: gathering at misera.net

>>>> > Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 13:55:02 +1000

>>>> > Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead

>>>> >

>>>> >

>>>> >

>>>> >

>>>> > Check who you are dissing or get some new glasses...I'm gonna use

>>>> that.

>>>> >

>>>> > Yes STFU means what you think it does. And I'm not apologising to

>>>> > Pete West, esp not after complimenting his SOH and comparing his

>>>> > english favourably to yours...I know that's damning with faint

>>>> > praise or

>>>> whatever,

>>>> > but hey..

>>>> >

>>>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-NOZU2iPA8

>>>> >

>>>> >

>>>> >

>>>> >

>>>> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

>>>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

>>>> > On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence

>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, 1 July 2009 9:27 AM

>>>> > To: gathering at misera.net

>>>> > Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead

>>>> >

>>>> >

>>>> > all i'm gonna say is check who you are dissing or get some new

>>>> > glasses testing the statement you made SHUT THE FUCK UP !!!!!!!

>>>> > sorry ??? like fuck you are

>>>> > i suggest you read what you last wrote and apologise to the person

>>>> > mentioned

>>>> >

>>>> >> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 00:24:45 +1200

>>>> >> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

>>>> >> To: gathering at misera.net

>>>> >> Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead

>>>> >>

>>>> >> Christ you waffle a load of shit Chris.

>>>> >>

>>>> >> Your first lines belie your 'nice' nature. I can take it on the

>>>> >> chin when someone tells me to STFU or whatever, but pretending

>>>> >> that you're

>>>> holier

>>>> >> than thou, when you demonstrate in your email what a hypocrite

>>>> >> you are...sorry.

>>>> >>

>>>> >> "never on this forum have i TOLD anyone how to live"

>>>> >>

>>>> >> Actually you did and got shouted down and told to put a sock in

>>>> >> it

>>>> with

>>>> >> the religious crap. Sigh...go on and deny it now of course.

>>>> >>

>>>> >> "i do NOT consider myself hoilier than thou"

>>>> >>

>>>> >> Yes, you do.

>>>> >>

>>>> >> "i await the usual one word response"

>>>> >>

>>>> >> Two emails out of hundreds doesn't constitute usual. touch of

>>>> sarcasm?

>>>> >> That's not positive now is it?

>>>> >>

>>>> >> "when obviously the initial hostility was due to the belief i was

>>>> pete

>>>> >> west"

>>>> >>

>>>> >> Obviously how? What are you on about now? The only confusion

>>>> >> between

>>>> you

>>>> >> and Pete West is in the hopeless english, you're actually worse

>>>> >> than

>>>> he

>>>> >> is

>>>> >> as a matter of fact. Well done. Pete West is quite witty when he

>>>> >> gets going too, I don't bite when he pops up anymore.

>>>> >>

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > awww poor brendan

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > hurt your feelings did i ?

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > get over it

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > you come across as an opinionated bully

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > unless it fits in with your world view

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > it must me torn down and stomped on

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > never on this forum have i TOLD anyone how to live

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > i HAVE defended what the bible teaches ,after seeing such

>>>> >> > rubbish

>>>> >> written

>>>> >> > about it [ or parts taken out of context ]

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > i do NOT consider myself hoilier than thou as i KNOW that

>>>> >> > unless i dramatically change my lifestyle i will NOT see the

>>>> >> > kingdom onearth

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > i like life as it is even with all the pain suffering and death

>>>> around

>>>> >> me

>>>> >> > and try to alleviate it in some small way

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > NO i am not seeking your approval

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > it would be interesting to see if you walk it like you talk it

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > unlike others on the internet i do not adopt some sort of

>>>> >> > persona

>>>> in

>>>> >> order

>>>> >> > to feel '' big behind the keyboard ''

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > some gatherers have met me

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > i leave them to give a hopefully honest appraiseal of me

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > if they don't i shan't castigate them for it

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > unlike others i admit to my faults

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > i know i expect too much of others [ even of myself sometimes ]

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > i DO endeavour to make my word my bond

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > i enjoy violent video games but would never perpetrate it in

>>>> >> > real

>>>> life

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > i enjoy many types of music but do not force it down others

>>>> >> > throats

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > i do not see artists as someone to worship and do NOT prescribe

>>>> >> > to

>>>> the

>>>> >> > cult of personality

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > they are people just like me with good and bad points

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > i stand by my statement regarding the scenarios i have NOT been

>>>> >> > in

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > i have obviously lead a different life to you

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > possibly charmed n some instances but it has had it's share of

>>>> >> heartbreaks

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > i do NOT seek sympathy from anyone

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > i WILL seek guidance from friends and am not too proud to ask

>>>> >> > if

>>>> i'm

>>>> >> not

>>>> >> > sure

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > i await the usual one word response

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > oh and intially i defended my view of killing joke

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > i have learnt to respond only when needed or to acknowledge a

>>>> kindness

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > i do not bear grudges and am surprised that you would drag up

>>>> >> > the

>>>> past

>>>> >> > when obviously the initial hostility was due to the belief i

>>>> >> > was

>>>> pete

>>>> >> west

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > oh well whatever floats your boat

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

>>>> >> > To: gathering at misera.net

>>>> >> > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:41:31 +1000

>>>> >> > Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > You're a great example of either what religion does to people's

>>>> minds

>>>> >> or

>>>> >> > who is attracted to religion. Black and white

>>>> >> > thinking...negative

>>>> >> thoughts

>>>> >> > are BAD, ergo I don't have any. Oh but you do...

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > In one of your first posts on this list you made a disparaging

>>>> remark

>>>> >> > about me, so all of your blather below is just that. What you

>>>> >> > think

>>>> >> you

>>>> >> > should be. Because a bunch of representatives of your

>>>> >> > collective

>>>> >> imaginary

>>>> >> > friend, who I might point out have a disproportionately high

>>>> incidence

>>>> >> of

>>>> >> > molesting children, tell you is right, enforced with

>>>> >> > supernatural

>>>> >> promises

>>>> >> > and threats. Choose me or choose eternal flame...hrm, nice set

>>>> >> > of

>>>> >> options.

>>>> >> > Sounds like a plausible offer from a sane omnipotent entity.

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > And if you're like the typical religious idiot there's about a

>>>> >> > 100%

>>>> >> chance

>>>> >> > that any evidence to the contrary will be refused entry into

>>>> >> > your

>>>> >> nervous

>>>> >> > system or twisted in such a way that it somehow fits the

>>>> >> > existing

>>>> >> model..

>>>> >> > No chance of challenging those convictions, that faith. That'd

>>>> imply

>>>> >> some

>>>> >> > form of honesty and fallibility. God doesn't work that way!

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

>>>> >> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

>>>> >> > On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence

>>>> >> > Sent: Tuesday, 30 June 2009 4:47 AM

>>>> >> > To: gathering at misera.net

>>>> >> > Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > i don't know why i'm bothering

>>>> >> > but half the things you speak of do NOT apply to me i do not

>>>> >> > recall being in any of the scenarios you speak of regarding a

>>>> >> > boss i disliked i just told him what i thought and

>>>> walked

>>>> >> > i will NOT take shit

>>>> >> > if i like something i say so and vice versa and i do not seek

>>>> approval

>>>> >> > from anyone

>>>> >> > i have never delivered a speech i have never tried ''to fit in

>>>> >> > ''

>>>> >> > i wear something because it is pleasing to me ,NOT because it

>>>> >> > is fashionable i occaisionally pay homage to a particular

>>>> >> > vernacular because it

>>>> >> raises a

>>>> >> > laugh [ usually at my expense ] but i don't lose sleep over it

>>>> >> > i'll admit picking my nose in my own time and in my own

>>>> >> > personal

>>>> space

>>>> >> > i have never laughed AT someone but prefer to laugh with

>>>> >> > someone [

>>>> >> except

>>>> >> > in the instance of comedy ]

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

>>>> >> > To: gathering at misera.net

>>>> >> > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:57:16 +1000

>>>> >> > Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > Never had a boss you weren't honest about disliking (lie by

>>>> omission)?

>>>> >> A

>>>> >> > friend / partner / family member make a stupid decision or

>>>> >> > comment

>>>> >> that

>>>> >> > you smiled and bit your tongue to? A stupid joke you laughed

>>>> >> > along

>>>> >> with

>>>> >> > for reasons of social cohesion / subservience? Put on a brave

>>>> >> > face

>>>> >> when

>>>> >> > you wanted to cry or scream? Did your best not to look unhappy

>>>> >> > when

>>>> >> being

>>>> >> > teased or laughed at? Smiled and posed for a photo? Looked like

>>>> >> > a

>>>> >> tougher

>>>> >> > version of yourself when walking past thugs? Pretended not to

>>>> >> > give

>>>> a

>>>> >> shit

>>>> >> > when someone said something that hurt? Pretended to be

>>>> >> > interested

>>>> when

>>>> >> > someone you like or thought worthy of respect was boring you?

>>>> Heaped

>>>> >> > praise on mediocre performance for what you thought were the

>>>> >> > right reasons?

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > Do you present the same way when delivering a speech as you do

>>>> >> > when

>>>> >> you're

>>>> >> > getting pissed with your mates? Do you wear clothes you don't

>>>> >> > like

>>>> for

>>>> >> > business or other reasons, to fit in? Never looked back in

>>>> retrospect

>>>> >> and

>>>> >> > thought you were an idiot for trying to come across in a

>>>> >> > particular

>>>> >> way to

>>>> >> > impress someone else? Presented someone with your

>>>> >> > representative on

>>>> a

>>>> >> > date, as opposed to the real you? Waited until no one was

>>>> >> > around

>>>> >> before

>>>> >> > picking your nose?

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > Ever found yourslf picking up someone else's vernacular because

>>>> they

>>>> >> have

>>>> >> > a strong personality? Bought clothes or music or gadgets to

>>>> >> > 'fit

>>>> in'?

>>>> >> Or

>>>> >> > to not fit in...

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > Ever talked shit for an hour straight at a job interview or on

>>>> >> > a

>>>> date?

>>>> >> > Stifled laughter in order to not hurt someone else's feelings...?

>>>> >> Tried

>>>> >> > not to look physically disgusted at something / someone who

>>>> disgusts

>>>> >> you?

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > Hrm...by my calculations, if the above is true then you're FULL

>>>> >> > OF

>>>> >> SHIT.

>>>> >> > Just like the rest of us (only slightly moreso ;)

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

>>>> >> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

>>>> >> > On Behalf Of jerry bodkin

>>>> >> > Sent: Monday, 29 June 2009 11:27 PM

>>>> >> > To: gathering at misera.net

>>>> >> > Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > actually I DON'T

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > Same as, it leaves one a touch outspoken at times, but hey,

>>>> >> > f*£k

>>>> it!

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > Jelly...... melting

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > From: stephen.l at live.com

>>>> >> > To: gathering at misera.net

>>>> >> > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:49:21 +0000

>>>> >> > Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > actually I DON'T

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> >> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:13:39 +1200

>>>> >> >> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

>>>> >> >> To: gathering at misera.net

>>>> >> >> Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead

>>>> >> >>

>>>> >> >> Cos we all pretend we're something we're not.

>>>> >> >>

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> > ...cos no one wants to say so to your face?

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> > Keep Smiling...

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> > http://www.myspace.com/themodelaircraftmuseum

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> > http://www.myspace.com/paulwadyexperience

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> > Autism also affects adults.

>>>> >> >> > Most are isolated and ignored Think. Act. Transform Lives.

>>>> >> >> > www.think-differently.org.uk

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

>>>> >> >> > To: gathering at misera.net

>>>> >> >> > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:11:03 +1000

>>>> >> >> > Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> > It's damn near illegal and harshly looked down upon to talk

>>>> bad

>>>> >> about

>>>> >> >> a

>>>> >> >> > dead person

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> > Rraises some interesting questions for those who have an

>>>> >> alternative

>>>> >> >> set

>>>> >> >> > of ethics as espoused by bands such as Killing Joke etc. From

>>>> what

>>>> >> >> I've

>>>> >> >> > seen that tradition is given lip service but is full of holes

>>>> to

>>>> >> the

>>>> >> >> > extent that people will find a way to talk about whatever they

>>>> >> want.

>>>> >> >> > Personally I've never really bought into it anyway so I don't

>>>> feel

>>>> >> any

>>>> >> >> > compunctions either way.

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> > It doesn't generally apply to enemies

>>>> >> >> > Doesn't apply to anyone who fits into any group it's currently

>>>> >> >> fashionable

>>>> >> >> > to dislike

>>>> >> >> > It's okay to say exactly what you want if you preface your

>>>> comments

>>>> >> >> with

>>>> >> >> > the assertion that you're only passing on what someone else

>>>> said

>>>> >> >> > It's behind closed doors and "just between us"

>>>> >> >> > All bets are off when you've had a few drinks.

>>>> >> >> > Lads / mates can talk about anything...

>>>> >> >> > Partners can talk about whatever they want

>>>> >> >> > It sells copy, I don't make the news I just print it...I'm

>>>> just

>>>> >> doing

>>>> >> >> my

>>>> >> >> > job. I'm just filling a demand, don't blame me I don't buy the

>>>> >> >> tabloids I

>>>> >> >> > just make them...

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUXBCdt5IPg

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> > WHY CAN'T WE JUST ADMIT IT.

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

>>>> >> >> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

>>>> >> >> > On Behalf Of sade1

>>>> >> >> > Sent: Monday, 29 June 2009 10:11 AM

>>>> >> >> > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>>> >> >> > Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >> ...none of the...ass-kissing pieces of tripe that I've read

>>>> >> actually

>>>> >> >> >> mention his court cases and... settlements...

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> > It's damn near illegal and harshly looked down upon to talk

>>>> bad

>>>> >> about

>>>> >> >> a

>>>> >> >> > dead person, even if they deliberately were a major asshole in

>>>> real

>>>> >> >> > life.** Even worse when it seems it was all a tragic

>>>> accidental

>>>> >> death

>>>> >> >> (so

>>>> >> >> > they're saying).

>>>> >> >> > Worse now that his doctor has lawyered up i don't think

>>>> they'll

>>>> >> have a

>>>> >> >> > straight answer on anything until legal and insurance cases

>>>> have

>>>> >> been

>>>> >> >> > settled.

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> > **besides, even now, television ratings are everything.

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> > I would like to see any one of his lawyers write a tell-all

>>>> about

>>>> >> any

>>>> >> >> or

>>>> >> >> > all of MJ's cases and settlements. Would reveal lots.

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> > ... ... ... ... ... ...

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> > [looking at the current state of things..]

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> > 'Save me...

>>>> >> >> > save me from Tomorrow..

>>>> >> >> > I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> > From: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>

>>>> >> >> > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>>> >> >> > <gathering at misera.net>

>>>> >> >> > Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 10:05:26 AM

>>>> >> >> > Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> > Aside from the implication that paedophiles are okay if

>>>> they've

>>>> >> also

>>>> >> >> > written some nice songs, my main grievance about this whole

>>>> bloody

>>>> >> >> circus

>>>> >> >> > is the media conspiracy to hush-up his charming recreational

>>>> >> >> activities. I

>>>> >> >> > could be wrong, but none of the eulogies, bios and ass-kissing

>>>> >> pieces

>>>> >> >> of

>>>> >> >> > tripe that I've read actually mention his court cases and

>>>> >> >> multi-million

>>>> >> >> > dollar out-of-court settlements. The closest any of them have

>>>> come

>>>> >> was

>>>> >> >> a

>>>> >> >> > sheepish remark that "[his] later life was dogged by legal

>>>> >> problems"..

>>>> >> >> > Since when did being arrested count as a 'legal problem'? That

>>>> >> makes

>>>> >> >> it

>>>> >> >> > sound like some boundary dispute with a neigbour, or at worst

>>>> a

>>>> >> little

>>>> >> >> > income-tax evasion..

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> > It's disgraceful. If Gary Glitter had actually written some

>>>> >> >> half-decent

>>>> >> >> > songs, does that mean he was really a nice guy? When he dies

>>>> do

>>>> we

>>>> >> all

>>>> >> >> > have to agree not to mention his child molestation in case it

>>>> >> offends

>>>> >> >> > someone?

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> > Jim.

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> > --- On Sun, 28/6/09, Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>

>>>> wrote:

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> > It's all fucking meaningless. People have been force-fed this

>>>> inane

>>>> >> >> > bologna for years that MJ was some sort of "genius' (the most

>>>> >> abused

>>>> >> >> word

>>>> >> >> > in the English language). Pile of fucking crap.

>>>> >> >> > I'm sick of it.

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> > Alex in NYC

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> > -----Original Message-----

>>>> >> >> > From: jerry bodkin

>>>> >> >> > Sent: Jun 28, 2009 11:24 AM

>>>> >> >> > To: gathering at misera.net

>>>> >> >> > Subject: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> > From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk

>>>> >> >> > To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk

>>>> >> >> > Subject: RE: [kj] Michael Jackson dead

>>>> >> >> > Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:24:17 +0100

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> > If his fans liked his music, why didnt they have the c.d's,

>>>> >> downloads

>>>> >> >> etc

>>>> >> >> > already? Why the sudden rush to purchase and d/load.

>>>> Somethings

>>>> >> smells

>>>> >> >> > and dont just mean his corpse!

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> > Jelly.

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> > From: dpeace at bigfoot.com

>>>> >> >> > To: gathering at misera.net

>>>> >> >> > Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:07:37 +0100

>>>> >> >> > Subject: Re: [kj] Michael Jackson dead

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> > Oh Christ.

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8123085.stm

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> > Darren

>>>> >> >> > Hungerford, UK

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> >

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