[kj] Antithesis of Killing Joke

[Darren A. Peace]

God, if no virtuoso could be musically bankrupt we'd all be raving  
about Dream Theater.

By musically bankrupt, I mean specifically that they have nothing  
inspirational to impart through their music. I regard Clapton,  
Knopfler, vai, Malmsteen &c. as having nothing to offer me. However,  
there are virtuosi who do; Fripp, Belew, Gill, Geordie and McGeogh  
spring immediately to mind.

In my view, being a consummate musician signifies precisely nothing  
other than you practice a lot. It's what you choose to do with your  
skills that counts.

Widdly fret-wankery doesn't impress me much, hence the fact that the  
only Eddie Van Halen guitar I possess is on a Thomas Dolby album.

Darren
Hungerford, UK

On 2 Jul 2009, at 15:19, Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:


> Steely Dan are many things, but muscially bankrupt? No way. I'd  

> rather listen to badgers bugger each other, but Steely Dan are  

> nothing if not consummate musicians. Boring, but certainly  

> accomplished.

>

>

>

> Alex in NYC

>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: GREG SLAWSON

> Sent: Jul 2, 2009 1:08 AM

> To: gathering

> Subject: Re: [kj] Antithesis of Killing Joke

>

> But there's so much other "music" that fits into the bankrupt  

> category--ALL recent mainstream country, most 80s "new wave" top 40/ 

> New Romantic crap, 90s "alternative", ALL 70s arena rock, etc. etc.  

> The yatch rock bands mentioned below only scratch the surface...

> P.S. Pet peeve--so much "music" today is entirely electronically  

> produced--even ethnic stuff like Afro Pop, reggae and Punjabi  

> banghra music no longer uses musicians playing instruments, it's  

> just programmed. MJ was probably one of the first to start this  

> horrible trend--just listen to the awful electronic bass line that  

> opens "Thriller". Don't get me wrong--synthesizers can be a real  

> instrument, when used to sound like synths--a la Kraftwork, Devo,  

> Cab Voltaire, etc. But when musicians are replaced by electronics  

> just to save $ or for convenience, it not only is wrong but fucks up  

> the whole feeling of music. One minor positive development--some rap  

> groups have begun to use live backup bands instead of just samples  

> and programming. But as a whole actual musicians are being replaced  

> more and more by machines (starting to sound like an Isaac Asimov  

> story)...

>

> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 14:33:00 +1000

> Subject: Re: [kj] Antithesis of Killing Joke

>

> Steely Dan?! Musically bankrupt? Pfagh.

>

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering- 

> bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace

> Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2009 6:36 AM

> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'

> Subject: Re: [kj] Antithesis of Killing Joke

>

> Yacht rock bands. Chicago are clearly monstrous, but I’d add Toto, t 

> he Doobie Brothers, Steely Dan, Kenny Loggins, Air Supply et al.

>

> Musically, spiritually and emotionally bankrupt, the lot of them.   

> Fie.

>

> Darren

> Hungerford, UK

>

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering- 

> bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Floren Luke

> Sent: 01 July 2009 9:20 PM

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] Antithesis of Killing Joke

>

> I would disagree.

> Both KJ and MJ are influenced by dance music

> Both KJ and MJ focus on environmental issues in their lyrics

> Both KJ and MJ (sometimes) have grinding guitars (Slash has played  

> with MJ)

> Kiss/Rush are moreso of Killing jokes antitheses, moreso then MJ is .

>

>

>

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:19:09 -0400

> From: countessghoulita at aol.com

> Subject: Re: [kj] Antithesis of Killing Joke

>

> I agree.

>

> Among the gazillion of bands that are antithetical to KJ, I'd also  

> add Chicago and their abuse of Bauhaus t-shirts:

> http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1w80f_chicago-youre-the-inspiration_music

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: folk devil <folk.devil at hotmail.com>

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Sent: Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:09 pm

> Subject: Re: [kj] Antithesis of Killing Joke

>

> Michael Jackson....

>

> From: fluke1 at live.co.uk

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:33:53 +0000

> Subject: [kj] Antithesis of Killing Joke

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>   Who would you say that Killing Jokes antithesis was/is ?

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