[kj] Antithesis of Killing Joke

sade1 saulomar1 at yahoo.com
Thu Jul 2 13:37:58 EDT 2009



> ...synthesizers can be a real instrument...but when musicians are replaced... just to save $ or

> for convenience, it..fucks up the whole feeling of music.


That's one thing I like about earlier Rush, is that they brought in the electronic
element beautifully without compromising the human element. All this machinery
making modern music can still be open-hearted. Not so coldly charted, it's really
just a question of your honesty.(Rush quote)


couldn't resist that last part. =)


... ... ... ... ... ...

[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'  





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From: GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com>
To: gathering <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 10:08:29 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Antithesis of Killing Joke

But there's so much other "music" that fits into the bankrupt category--ALL recent mainstream country, most 80s "new wave" top 40/New Romantic crap, 90s "alternative", ALL 70s arena rock, etc. etc. The yatch rock bands mentioned below only scratch the surface...
P.S. Pet peeve--so much "music" today is entirely electronically produced--even ethnic stuff like Afro Pop, reggae and Punjabi banghra music no longer uses musicians playing instruments, it's just programmed. MJ was probably one of the first to start this horrible trend--just listen to the awful electronic bass line that opens "Thriller". Don't get me wrong--synthesizers can be a real instrument, when used to sound like synths--a la Kraftwork, Devo, Cab Voltaire, etc. But when musicians are replaced by electronics just to save $ or for convenience, it not only is wrong but fucks up the whole feeling of music. One minor positive development--some rap groups have begun to use live backup bands instead of just samples and programming. But as a whole actual musicians are being replaced more and more by machines (starting to sound like an Isaac Asimov story)...
 
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From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 14:33:00 +1000
Subject: Re: [kj] Antithesis of Killing Joke


Steely Dan?! Musically bankrupt? Pfagh.


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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace
Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2009 6:36 AM
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] Antithesis of Killing Joke


Yacht rock bands. Chicago are clearly monstrous, but I’d add Toto, the Doobie Brothers, Steely Dan, Kenny Loggins, Air Supply et al.
 
Musically, spiritually and emotionally bankrupt, the lot of them.  Fie.
 
Darren
Hungerford, UK
 
From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Floren Luke
Sent: 01 July 2009 9:20 PM
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Antithesis of Killing Joke
 
I would disagree.
Both KJ and MJ are influenced by dance music
Both KJ and MJ focus on environmental issues in their lyrics
Both KJ and MJ (sometimes) have grinding guitars (Slash has played with MJ)
Kiss/Rush are moreso of Killing jokes antitheses, moreso then MJ is . 
 
 
 

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To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:19:09 -0400
From: countessghoulita at aol.com
Subject: Re: [kj] Antithesis of Killing Joke
I agree.

Among the gazillion of bands that are antithetical to KJ, I'd also add Chicago and their abuse of Bauhaus t-shirts:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1w80f_chicago-youre-the-inspiration_music
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: folk devil <folk.devil at hotmail.com>
To: gathering at misera.net
Sent: Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:09 pm
Subject: Re: [kj] Antithesis of Killing Joke
Michael Jackson....

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From: fluke1 at live.co.uk
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:33:53 +0000
Subject: [kj] Antithesis of Killing Joke

 
  Who would you say that Killing Jokes antithesis was/is ?

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