[kj] Angelina of Killing Jolie -- good crass ?

[Darren A. Peace]

F.luke.

Hmm.

Darren
Hungerford, UK


On 5 Jul 2009, at 16:33, Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:


> Is Floren Luke Peter West?

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> Alex in NYC

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> -----Original Message-----

> From: Floren Luke

> Sent: Jul 5, 2009 8:37 AM

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] Angelina of Killing Jolie -- good crass ?

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> Is it because she is rich and famous that you feel that she  

> shouldn't wear Crass T-shirts?

> Should only people living in cardboard boxes be allowed to wear  

> Crass T-shirts?

> You are just displaying Working class ignorance and Working Class  

> snobbery .

> You are adhering to Alex's views that as soon as people get a pot to  

> piss in , then all their credibility is lost.

>  If the Dead Kennedys released a song, he would love it . But if a  

> year later that same song ws Number one in the charts, he would hate  

> it.

>   Whats the difference ? its still the same song.

> If Angelina Jolie had not become famous and she was a struggling bit  

> part actress, would that then give her the right to wear a Crass T- 

> shirt ?

>   You know nothing about Angelina Jolie , you are just making  

> ignorant assumptions about her .

> She was into Crass when she was younger, why shouldn't she now wear  

> the T-shirt.

> She dropped out of school at 14 , went to live with her boyfriend ,  

> dyed her hair purple and wore black and wanted to be a funeral  

> director and she attended punk gigs regularly. Alex can decide  

> whether she has the credential to wear the T-shirt.

>   She can wear what the hell she likes, should she put her Crass T- 

> shirts away and start wearing U2 ones?

>   Stop being such ignorant snobs

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> From: paulwady at hotmail.com

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 23:47:12 +0100

> Subject: Re: [kj] Antithesis of Killing Joke -- good catch

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> For me, this t shirt on some multi millionaire fit reality- 

> impersonator raises the issues of that argument on here before,  

> where one person talked about people being something they werent,  

> and another got very insistent that they were no fraud at all.

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> Is Jolie really at heart someone who'd jump around at a Crass gig  

> smelling of sweat and passion in her 2nd hand ripped old clothes,  

> fresh from a squat full of idealism, anarchy and wacky backy?  Or is  

> she more like me, someone who 25 odd years ago liked to think they  

> were like that, and went onto live in the odd squat in Hackney Wick  

> and found it was all necessity of poverty and survival that you were  

> part of any sub-culture with the associated lefty anarco whatever  

> politics?

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> I respected Crass but I never soiled their gigs with my presence.   

> So I'd never wear a t shirt with them on it, because I'd never be up  

> to what I saw them as standing for.

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