[kj] [OT] Gary Numan

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> .."Cars"... known by disco bums at shows just for that song :(


Not so, I like Radio Heart too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM15mFCr1KQ  So there. 



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[looking at the current state of things..]
 
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  save me from Tomorrow..
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From: "countessghoulita at aol.com" <countessghoulita at aol.com>
To: gathering at misera.net
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2009 5:51:57 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Gary Numan


Gary Numan has always been ahead of his time. Unfortunately, he is slave to "Cars", and known by disco bums at shows just for that song :(


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From: Bette Dillinger <bettedillinger at live.com>
To: gathering at misera.net
Sent: Thu, Jul 9, 2009 5:30 pm
Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Gary Numan


That's funny.....amid the death of The Gloved Wonder, I had a conversation with a friend where we both agreed that if Mr Numan departed from this mortal coil there would be more of a musical legacy and a real feeling of loss after hearing the news.  His music is what defines him. Yeah, everyone knows "Cars", but that man was/is a pioneer. "Films" is one of the most sampled songs ever.  And "Me, I Disconnect From You" along with "Are Friends Electric" are personal faves.....I listened to "The Pleasure Principle" today.  HE is a unique artist, not some sad doll.
 
Isn't enigma what makes someone legendary?  I don't want to know sordid, yet all too prosaic, details about a famous musician's life unless they are presenting it for artistic purposes.  
 
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From: karen.weil at sddt.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:54:03 -0700
Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Gary Numan


I will do that, Great Countess. 
 
Ciao,
 
k.w.
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>He still rocks on stage, IMHO. Check him out the next time he tours, Karen

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>Considering Numan's catalogue, yes. But still glad you got to see him. 

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>Cheers,

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>kw

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>>Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:39 PM

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>>I saw Gary Numan at the HOB in LA in 2006; No big crowd, and were waiting for "Cars". Very sad.

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>>From: GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com>

>>To: gathering <gathering at misera.net>

>>Sent: Wed, Jul 8, 2009 1:19 pm

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>>If any song by the (far far superior) Joke got as much airplay as "Cars", they'd be able to sell out concert halls in the US...

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From: karen.weil at sddt.com

>>To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; gathering at misera.net

>>Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:01:22 -0700

>>Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Gary Numan

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>>"The Pleasure Principle" ... 

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>>My sister had this album. I remember spending many hours listening to it, entranced by its complexity and coldness (especiall y "Engineers" and "Conversation"). 

>>(And of course, "Cars" was a hit in the States, so you'd hear that often on the radio in the spring of '80.) Even though I'd already consumed a steady diet of "new wave," by that time, it was like nothing I'd ever heard before. It left quite an impression on one goofy, hyperactiv e grade schooler.  

>>His image on the album cover also greatly intrigued me; he just appeared so elegant and intimidating.

>>Also, we'd play it loud enough that a neighbor or two came by, complaining it was "too weird."  That was a bonus. ; ) 

>>Thanks for posting the press release.  

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>>Cheers, 

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>>Karen W. 

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>>>From: Darren A. Peace 

>>>To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' 

>>>Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:45 AM

>>>Subject: [kj] [OT] Gary Numan

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>>>Oo. Just had this press release. It’s one of the first albums I actually bought, so I’m excited, given what the did with “Replicas”, but I’m posting it here mainly because Brenda will like the last paragraph.

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>>>Darren

>>>Hungerford, UK 

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>>>Gary Numan Album: The Pleasure Principle (30th Anniversary Edition) Release Date: September 28, 2009 08 Jul 09

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>>>Label: Beggars Banquet  Live Dates: The Pleasure Principle Tour 2009 Nov 17, Brighton Dome; 18 Southampton University; 19 Cardiff Sub 29; 20 Sheffield Corporation; 21 Manchester Academy; 23 Cork Pavillion; 24 Dublin Tripod; 25 Leeds Academ y; 26 Edinburgh Picturehouse; 27 Glasgow ABC; 28 Sunderland The Campus; 29 Norwich UEA; 30 Wolverhampton Civic; Dec 1.

>>>Cambridge Junction; 2 Nottingham Rock City; 3 London Indigo

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>>>Gary Numan's classic, influential album, The Pleasure Principle is being re-released as a double CD edition (featuring demos and B-sides on the bonus disc) 30 years after it debuted at Number 1 in the UK charts. The singer's single from the album, 'Cars' also climbed to the top of the charts, an achievement he's celebrating with a 16 date UK tour starting in mid November.

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>>>The Pleasure Principle was the point where Numan became a huge international solo star, reaching the Top 10 in the States with 'Cars' and Top 20 with the album. Given the conservative nature of the music scene in America at that time and the fact that the LP didn't even feature any guitars, let alone conventional song structures ('Cars' doesn't even have a chorus), this is one of those special moments in pop music when a new idea breaks through all the boundaries. The Pleasure Principle pioneered electronic pop music on a new scale, becoming a much bigger hit worldwide than Kraftwerk or anything from the Bowie/Eno 'Berlin' trilogy. And the fact that it was so different and had such a major impact in America (crystallised when Numan performed 'Cars' and 'Praying To The Aliens' in front of 40 million people on the Saturday Night Live Show) means that there's a direct link from The Pleasure Principle to the new musical forms that were born in the USA

 over the next decade - namel  y hip hop, industrial and techno.

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>>>As the NME recently noted, 'every hip-hop production titan ever – notably Dr Dre – has nicked the opening beats from the track 'Films'. The likes of Timbaland and The Neptunes' minimal pop – comprised of just exquisitely produced drums and simplistic synthlines – are heralded as been futuristic genius in the 21st century; The Pleasure Principle s hows that Gary Numan was doing the same thing 30 years previously. His influence on hip-hop, while rarely recognised, is enormous. His influence on=2 0electronic music in general is unparalleled.' When GZA of the Wu-Tang Clan's covered 'Films'

>>>last year, he was actually taking hip hop back to its roots as the track features one of the original break breats (in fact it fea tures on the hugely influential, Ultimate Breaks & Beats compilation series) . Former Sex Pistols manager Malcolm McLaren recalls his first encounter with hip hop in the early '80s: 'I remember hearing Gary Numan's 'Cars' and looking at this madly volatile black crowd in

>>>  the middle of the South Bronx – my first visit to witness a party that I was invited to by Afrika Bambaataa. I, a naïve white honky, thought that it was in some apartment building, but it turned out to be this massive debris site and there in the middle of it was these guys telling their stories, freestyle, to Gary Numan's 'Cars'. My thoughts were interupted when waves parted in the crowd like the Red Sea and there, in a pool of light on the floor, came characters who started to spin and break dance.

>>>I'd never seen anything quite like it, I thought it was amazing.'

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>>>In industrial music both Nine Inch Nails and Marilyn Manson have namechecked Numan as a significant influence, with the former currently performing the track 'Metal' on his tour. 'After hearing 'Cars' I knew I wanted to make music with synth esizers,' says Reznor. 'The Pleasure Principle is fucking great because it's so cold sounding.' Meanwhile, techno pioneers ranging from Carl Craig to Juan Atkins were grabbed by this strange, futuristic music, creating a relationship between Numan and dance music that has spawned the likes of the Basement Jaxx's 'Where's Your Head At' (samples 'M.E.' from The Pleasure Principle) and the 'Cars'-mutating 'Koochy' by Armand Van Helden. As the newly reformed Devo recently commented, The Pleasure Principle is, 'so original and cool and ground breaking and in a way classic. Like, it still sounds great today .

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