[kj] (Very OT) Bruno - Autism

[countessghoulita at aol.com]

"Soooo scared to offend ANYONE"

I am deleting all the posts about this subject I created. Not because I am scared to be offended. It is because I am scared of the lack of sensitivity. I am not a pussy at all. I think I have made my point more than once. 

That'a all folks, as for me.


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From: Leigh Newton <angrytomhanks at yahoo.com>
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I don't even see the need to try and justify your reasons for finding something funny. If you do, you do. Maybe you're a horrible person (not you, Brendan. The royal you, as the Dude might say). Or maybe you're not particularly sensitive. Maybe you've got thick skin. Whatever the reason, I think the idea of explaining rationalizing to yourself why it's okay for you and your brain to laugh at certain taboo subjects is completely ridiculous and indicative of the gigantic bunch of pussies we, as humans, have become. Soooo scared to offend ANYONE. Lame. Just because I laugh at something, that doesn't necessarily mean that I agree with the sentiment. 

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From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
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Either it's all okay or none of it is okay. 



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This is something I've been wondering about for a few years 
now. No conclusion as of yet.


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Thing that got me thinking was watching through Ricky 
Gervais's Extras...it's one of the common themes running through it is the (lack 
of) restriction on laughing at certain things. Dwarves, gays, the disabled, 
nothing seems to be off limits. But I'm not really sure what the statement 
is...? Sure you CAN make fun of anything you want, but a) is it funny, and 
b)...should you? Gervais makes fun of himself more than anyone else (e.g. David 
Bowie singing his sad little fatman theme song), but does that give you carte 
blanche to weigh in on everyone else?


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Carlin totally shares your view...


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcFryjunIjw


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(He did go on, about cartoon characters raping each other etc, 
and Dave Chapelle has covered similar ground...and I personally found them both 
funny)


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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net 
[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Leigh 
Newton
Sent: Saturday, 11 July 2009 10:23 AM
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Bruno - Autism







Usually 
when a touchy subject is broached in the name of comedy, it is done so based on 
the premise that you aren't supposed to make jokes about said subject. Most of 
the time, the people delivering said jokes don't actually mean what they say. 


I can't stand the idea of certain topics being taboo, where humour is 
concerned. Fuck that. Either it's all okay or none of it is okay. 


Leigh


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From: "countessghoulita at aol.com" 
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Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 6:52:17 
PM
Subject: Re: [kj] (Very OT) 
Bruno - Autism



Stephen, I concur. Yet, making 
fun of people with disabilities, nationalities, etc. etc is wrong. I totally 
concur, and I should have listened to my nature and not watch the movie. Serves 
me really well.









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From: Stephen Lawrence 
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Sent: Fri, Jul 10, 2009 3:48 pm
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[kj] (Very OT) Bruno - Autism





countess you do know that most humour is at the expense of someone ?
that's 
the workings of man 
to laugh at the differences or weaknesses of others 

if you had seen borat you would have known what to expect 
ali g 
was?a bit off in places 
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To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Fri, 10 
Jul 2009 18:17:42 -0400
From: countessghoulita at aol.com
Subject: 
[kj] (Very OT) Bruno - Autism

I 
wish I read this article before going to the theatre. Not that I was expecting 
this movie to be funny in an intelligent way.

http://news.bostonherald.com/entertainment/movies/reviews/view/20090710bruno/srvc=home&position=7

In 
the very first minutes of the movie, Bruno (Sacha Baron Cohen), an obnoxious 
fashionista, makes fun of autism in his talk show called "Funkyzeit". This 
turned me immediately off,? and needed to leave the theatre immediately. If 
I read that article I would have never gone. I am so ready to debate about this 
with everyone. Soo ready. Sacha Baron Cohen is on my chopping block. I am pissed 
off.

I thought you guys should 
know.

Cheers,

CG











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