[kj] (Very OT) Bruno - Autism-Gaping Anus of Christ

[Concrete Cookie]

I quite like one of the responses to the review:


"I find it strange that film critic doesn't mention Cohen's use of
satire in this movie. It is clearly pointing out the bigotry that
follows homosexuals around the world and the shallow form of the
fashion and, largely, the entertainment world. Although this was
certainly not his only intention as the absurdly erotic scenes deviate
the viewer's attention. I still think that an underlying message was
that ignorance, whether it be from bigots or Hollywood stars, remains
as a highly detrimental aspect of all societies. So, to reduce the
movie to a series of gay jokes, hilarious gay jokes at that, does it a
disservice and illustrates your perceptive depth, or lack thereof."

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:36:37 -0400
From: countessghoulita at aol.com
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I attached a link to my first post. It was an article from The Boston Herald

http://news.bostonherald.com/entertainment/movies/reviews/view/20090710bruno/srvc=home&position=7



 




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I was trying to figure out what the Bruno - Autism topic was about, and couldn't so i googled it:



Bruno Bettelheim (August 28, 1903 – March 13, 1990), a Jewish native of Austria, became known as a child psychologist and writer after immigrating as a refugee to the United States in 1939. He gained an international reputation for his views on autism and for his success in treating emotionally disturbed children.



Im going to vomit in the gaping anus of christ now, wish me luck!



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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:37:23 -0700

From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com

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> So I should sympathize with people who don't know Naz

i jokes aren't funny?


 


 


By "people" do you mean the listener of the joke or the teller of the joke?


 




 


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From: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>

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So I should sympathize with people who don't know Nazi jokes aren't funny? Sorry, but nobody is that stupid. Every Bernard Manning knows precisely why his jokes aren't funny and why most people choose not to tell them. They simply decide they don't care and tell them anyway. So it's their choice and they must take the consequences. They're no more handicapped than I am, and like me, they're responsible for their actions.


 


Jim.



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From: jo <jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk>

Subject: Re: [kj] (Very OT) Bruno - Autism

To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>

Date: Saturday, 11 July, 2009, 4:04 PM







Then you  in turn, are taking the  mick out of someone who is socially crippled.


 



 






Sorry if this is irrelevant, I haven't followed the entire thread, so apologies in advance.




Humour involving real problems or disabilities is not necessarily the same thing as humour at the expense of real problems or disabilities. I mean, look at The Office- if David Brent says something howlingly inappropriate about women/blacks/homosexuals etc etc, is it funny because he's managed to work them into a joke, or because he's such a colossal wanker that he doesn't see why he shouldn't say that? It's the latter. It's not funny because of the subject matter. The Office takes the piss out of people who tell jokes about people with disabilities, thinking they're actually funny. We know they're not, so we can laugh at the idiots who think they are.


 


My stepfather used to come home and tell me all the latest jokes he'd heard about the Holocaust or women or foreigners. I don't think he ever understood (well, maybe at the end) that I wasn't laughing at his jokes, I was laughing at the sad git who thought they were funny. I have plenty of reasons to dislike jokes about autism, but I'm all in favour of making the people who tell th
em look like idiots.


 


Jim.




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From: Paul Wady <paulwady at hotmail.com>

Subject: Re: [kj] (Very OT) Bruno - Autism

To: "Gatherers Killing Joke Gatherers" <gathering at misera.net>

Date: Saturday, 11 July, 2009, 3:42 PM







EH!  WHAT?  Who woke me up?  Oh, the A word got used.  Ah... 






Still ain't seen any connection between Mr. B.C, his Gay friend and Autism.  Excepting his first cousin - a fine fellow, and a keen bass guitarist too.  







I think being able to make fun of yourself is a good sign.  I've spent mucho time getting laughed at for the wrong reasons - was trying not to be disabled.  Hence my 'outness'.  Sometimes, you gotta fall flat on that face.  Just natural.  Then the world will laugh at you.







More serious we want to get taken=2
0the harder they judge you?  Mind you, I spend my life trying to help people since I was a small child, not knocking anyone's disabilities.  Bit odd that, but I kinda always knew I wasn't some sort of superman.







Jo - Take the piss out of a counselling session?  I call my sessions 'conversations on the Gatherers list'.






Oh God....







I feel fat too.  Oh Dear God...



From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk

To: gathering at misera.net

Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 07:08:22 +0100

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I think you are.  


In a way 'suffering' from something sort of makes you bit more entitled to laugh about it.  I'd rather take the piss out of something than go for a councelling session.  Much less gloomy and more positive IMO.


 


 



Can I test the waters? I put on some weight a while back when I couldn't go to the gym for a couple years...perhaps 30 pounds or so. I noticed one day as I was sitting down, leani
ng slightly to one side, I felt a *plop* as a little roll of fat was birthed into existence around my floating ribs...as a tall skinny type and gym freak for most of my life it was one of the most disgusting, yet funny, experiences I've ever had. Relating it to other people has been quite funny...does that make me bad for making fun of fat people? Can I no longer do it after losing the weight...?






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Sent: Saturday, 11 July 2009 10:50 AM

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Not on my watch if physical and mental disabilities are made fun of. My apologies.












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Not that I've seen any of the said films (saw Ali G on Richard and Judy once) but I'm with you on that.


If you're brave or daft enough to crack a joke in the wrong place at the wrong time you'll suffer; but you have the right to do it.





I can't stand the idea of certain topics being taboo, where humour is concerned. Fuck that. Either it's all okay or none of it is okay. 



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