[kj] (Very OT) Bruno - Autism

[Jerry Butson]

You're missing out, buddy!

2009/7/12 Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>


> I don't believe in telling jokes about disabled people, foreigners, etc etc

> because I've been on the butt end of enough 'jokes' to know that most of the

> time they are intended to attack or belittle the subject and do actually

> express a clear dislike or disregard for said subject. It's got fuck all to

> do with me a poster-boy for political-correctness-gone-mad and an awful lot

> to with the fact that I don't much like being belittled and mocked, so I'm

> not really in any position to be doling it out to anyone else.

>

> Couldn't give a flying fuck whether I offend anyone. 95% of the time

> 'taking offence' is a purely subjective thing- it's within your power to be

> or not to be offended. In much the same way I'd prefer not to be punched in

> the face so I tend not to go around punching people in the face. Myself,

> that sounds like common sense, rather than just me being a pussy.

>

> Jim.

>

>

> From: Leigh Newton <angrytomhanks at yahoo.com>

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> Sent: Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:00 am

> Subject: Re: [kj] (Very OT) Bruno - Autism

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>  I don't even see the need to try and justify your reasons for finding

> something funny. If you do, you do. Maybe you're a horrible person (not you,

> Brendan. The royal you, as the Dude might say). Or maybe you're not

> particularly sensitive. Maybe you've got thick skin. Whatever the reason, I

> think the idea of explaining rationalizing to yourself why it's okay for you

> and your brain to laugh at certain taboo subjects is completely ridiculous

> and indicative of the gigantic bunch of pussies we, as humans, have become.

> Soooo scared to offend ANYONE. Lame. Just because I laugh at something, that

> doesn't necessarily mean that I agree with the sentiment.

>

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> *Sent:* Saturday, July 11, 2009 12:45:16 AM

> *Subject:* Re: [kj] (Very OT) Bruno - Autism

>

> *Either it's all okay or none of it is okay.*

>

> This is something I've been wondering about for a few years now. No

> conclusion as of yet.

>

> Thing that got me thinking was watching through Ricky Gervais's

> Extras...it's one of the common themes running through it is the (lack of)

> restriction on laughing at certain things. Dwarves, gays, the disabled,

> nothing seems to be off limits. But I'm not really sure what the statement

> is...? Sure you CAN make fun of anything you want, but a) is it funny, and

> b)...should you? Gervais makes fun of himself more than anyone else (e.g.

> David Bowie singing his sad little fatman theme song), but does that give

> you carte blanche to weigh in on everyone else?

>

> Carlin totally shares your view...

>

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcFryjunIjw

>

> (He did go on, about cartoon characters raping each other etc, and Dave

> Chapelle has covered similar ground...and I personally found them both

> funny)

>

>

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> *On Behalf Of *Leigh Newton

> *Sent:* Saturday, 11 July 2009 10:23 AM

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> *Subject:* Re: [kj] (Very OT) Bruno - Autism

>

>  Usually when a touchy subject is broached in the name of comedy, it is

> done so based on the premise that you aren't supposed to make jokes about

> said subject. Most of the time, the people delivering said jokes don't

> actually mean what they say.

>

> I can't stand the idea of certain topics being taboo, where humour is

> concerned. Fuck that. Either it's all okay or none of it is okay.

>

> Leigh

>

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> *Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2009 6:52:17 PM

> *Subject:* Re: [kj] (Very OT) Bruno - Autism

>

> Stephen, I concur. Yet, making fun of people with disabilities,

> nationalities, etc. etc is wrong. I totally concur, and I should have

> listened to my nature and not watch the movie. Serves me really well.

>

>

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> Sent: Fri, Jul 10, 2009 3:48 pm

> Subject: Re: [kj] (Very OT) Bruno - Autism

>

>  countess you do know that most humour is at the expense of someone ?

> that's the workings of man

> to laugh at the differences or weaknesses of others

> if you had seen borat you would have known what to expect

> ali g was a bit off in places

>

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> Subject: [kj] (Very OT) Bruno - Autism

>

> I wish I read this article before going to the theatre. Not that I was

> expecting this movie to be funny in an intelligent way.

>

>

> http://news.bostonherald.com/entertainment/movies/reviews/view/20090710bruno/srvc=home&position=7

>

> In the very first minutes of the movie, Bruno (Sacha Baron Cohen), an

> obnoxious fashionista, makes fun of autism in his talk show called

> "Funkyzeit". This turned me immediately off,  and needed to leave the

> theatre immediately. If I read that article I would have never gone. I am so

> ready to debate about this with everyone. Soo ready. Sacha Baron Cohen is on

> my chopping block. I am pissed off.

>

> I thought you guys should know.

>

> Cheers,

>

> CG

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