[kj] (Very OT) Bruno - Autism

[jo]

I'm not a massive Little Britain fan but my favourite comedy character at the moment is Ray McCrooney.
<maybe pulls out flute and does a little jig or maybe doesn't>


  My favourite joke (a killing one):


  "Come in number 9, your time is up"


  "But we've only got eight boats..."


  "Number six, are you in trouble?"


  2009/7/12 Leigh Newton <angrytomhanks at yahoo.com>

    I don't even see the need to try and justify your reasons for finding something funny. If you do, you do. Maybe you're a horrible person (not you, Brendan. The royal you, as the Dude might say). Or maybe you're not particularly sensitive. Maybe you've got thick skin. Whatever the reason, I think the idea of explaining rationalizing to yourself why it's okay for you and your brain to laugh at certain taboo subjects is completely ridiculous and indicative of the gigantic bunch of pussies we, as humans, have become. Soooo scared to offend ANYONE. Lame. Just because I laugh at something, that doesn't necessarily mean that I agree with the sentiment. 


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    From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
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    Either it's all okay or none of it is okay. 

    This is something I've been wondering about for a few years now. No conclusion as of yet.

    Thing that got me thinking was watching through Ricky Gervais's Extras...it's one of the common themes running through it is the (lack of) restriction on laughing at certain things. Dwarves, gays, the disabled, nothing seems to be off limits. But I'm not really sure what the statement is...? Sure you CAN make fun of anything you want, but a) is it funny, and b)...should you? Gervais makes fun of himself more than anyone else (e.g. David Bowie singing his sad little fatman theme song), but does that give you carte blanche to weigh in on everyone else?

    Carlin totally shares your view...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcFryjunIjw

    (He did go on, about cartoon characters raping each other etc, and Dave Chapelle has covered similar ground...and I personally found them both funny)





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    From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Leigh Newton
    Sent: Saturday, 11 July 2009 10:23 AM
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    Usually when a touchy subject is broached in the name of comedy, it is done so based on the premise that you aren't supposed to make jokes about said subject. Most of the time, the people delivering said jokes don't actually mean what they say. 

    I can't stand the idea of certain topics being taboo, where humour is concerned. Fuck that. Either it's all okay or none of it is okay. 

    Leigh


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    From: "countessghoulita at aol.com" <countessghoulita at aol.com>
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    Stephen, I concur. Yet, making fun of people with disabilities, nationalities, etc. etc is wrong. I totally concur, and I should have listened to my nature and not watch the movie. Serves me really well.





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    From: Stephen Lawrence <stephen.l at live.com>
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    Sent: Fri, Jul 10, 2009 3:48 pm
    Subject: Re: [kj] (Very OT) Bruno - Autism


    countess you do know that most humour is at the expense of someone ?
    that's the workings of man 
    to laugh at the differences or weaknesses of others 
    if you had seen borat you would have known what to expect 
    ali g was a bit off in places 
     

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    Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:17:42 -0400
    From: countessghoulita at aol.com
    Subject: [kj] (Very OT) Bruno - Autism

    I wish I read this article before going to the theatre. Not that I was expecting this movie to be funny in an intelligent way.

    http://news.bostonherald.com/entertainment/movies/reviews/view/20090710bruno/srvc=home&position=7

    In the very first minutes of the movie, Bruno (Sacha Baron Cohen), an obnoxious fashionista, makes fun of autism in his talk show called "Funkyzeit". This turned me immediately off,  and needed to leave the theatre immediately. If I read that article I would have never gone. I am so ready to debate about this with everyone. Soo ready. Sacha Baron Cohen is on my chopping block. I am pissed off.

    I thought you guys should know.

    Cheers,

    CG







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