[kj] (Very OT) Bruno - Autism

[Paul Wady]

What do you get if you cross a Neurotypical with an Autistic person?

 

Sense and sanity with a lack of volatile, bloody awful childish emotions.  That's an Autistic joke.  

 

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From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:40:27 +0100
Subject: Re: [kj] (Very OT) Bruno - Autism




Me either.  I think I've mentioned before that I've got one Aspergers nephew and two Autistic who I'd protect with my life but I just have a different mindset on humour.
 


let it be known I was not and never would attack you 
 


To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:14:24 -0400
From: countessghoulita at aol.com
Subject: Re: [kj] (Very OT) Bruno - Autism


I am not blaming all the gatherers, Stephen. I wish Cliff was here to give his 2 cents about autism, and how wrong it is to make fun of disabilities.

I am probably the biggest dork in the world for defending those who cannot have the strength to defend themselves. What happens to all those disabled people--and in the case of kids with disabilities, when their parents are dead? Did anyone think about it?

Who still wants to use the word "alzheimer's" to define folks who forget something basic? Trust me, when you cope with someone in your family who is disabled, or has a progressive disease, life changes. And views change. I don't want anyone to deal with the amount of pain. It is not physical pain--it is rather being imprisoned in a sound-proof chamber, and all you have is just keep going, taking the biggest of your mental efforts not to get sick with depression--because most of the people don't fucking care.  Pardon my French.

Sorry, I think this is my last post on the topic. I am not attacking anyone of you. I think I feel attacked for my views about "comedy".


-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Lawrence <stephen.l at live.com>
To: gathering at misera.net <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Sun, Jul 12, 2009 1:43 pm
Subject: Re: [kj] (Very OT) Bruno - Autism




countess please don't think that way 
it sounds like you are blaming all the gatherers and that is definitely not right 
 


To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:25:37 -0400
From: countessghoulita at aol.com
Subject: Re: [kj] (Very OT) Bruno - Autism


"Soooo scared to offend ANYONE"

I am deleting all the posts about this subject I created. Not because I am scared to be offended. It is because I am scared of the lack of sensitivity. I am not a pussy at all. I think I have made my point more than once. 

That'a all folks, as for me.


-----Original Message-----
From: Leigh Newton <angrytomhanks at yahoo.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:00 am
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I don't even see the need to try and justify your reasons for finding something funny. If you do, you do. Maybe you're a horrible person (not you, Brendan. The royal you, as the Dude might say). Or maybe you're not particularly sensitive. Maybe you've got thick skin. Whatever the reason, I think the idea of explaining rationalizing to yourself why it's okay for you and your brain to laugh at certain taboo subjects is completely ridiculous and indicative of the gigantic bunch of pussies we, as humans, have become. Soooo scared to offend ANYONE. Lame. Just because I laugh at something, that doesn't necessarily mean that I agree with the sentiment. 

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From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
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Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 12:45:16 AM
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Either it's all okay or none of it is okay. 
 
This is something I've been wondering about for a few years now. No conclusion as of yet.
 
Thing that got me thinking was watching through Ricky Gervais's Extras...it's one of the common themes running through it is the (lack of) restriction on laughing at certain things. Dwarves, gays, the disabled, nothing seems to be off limits. But I'm not really sure what the statement is...? Sure you CAN make fun of anything you want, but a) is it funny, and b)...should you? Gervais makes fun of himself more than anyone else (e.g. David Bowie singing his sad little fatman theme song), but does that give you carte blanche to weigh in on everyone else?
 
Carlin totally shares your view...
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcFryjunIjw
 
(He did go on, about cartoon characters raping each other etc, and Dave Chapelle has covered similar ground...and I personally found them both funny)
 
 



From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Leigh Newton
Sent: Saturday, 11 July 2009 10:23 AM
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] (Very OT) Bruno - Autism



Usually when a touchy subject is broached in the name of comedy, it is done so based on the premise that you aren't supposed to make jokes about said subject. Most of the time, the people delivering said jokes don't actually mean what they say. 

I can't stand the idea of certain topics being taboo, where humour is concerned. Fuck that. Either it's all okay or none of it is okay. 

Leigh

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From: "countessghoulita at aol.com" <countessghoulita at aol.com>
To: gathering at misera.net
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 6:52:17 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] (Very OT) Bruno - Autism


Stephen, I concur. Yet, making fun of people with disabilities, nationalities, etc. etc is wrong. I totally concur, and I should have listened to my nature and not watch the movie. Serves me really well.




-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Lawrence <stephen.l at live.com>
To: gathering at misera.net <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Fri, Jul 10, 2009 3:48 pm
Subject: Re: [kj] (Very OT) Bruno - Autism




countess you do know that most humour is at the expense of someone ?
that's the workings of man 
to laugh at the differences or weaknesses of others 
if you had seen borat you would have known what to expect 
ali g was a bit off in places 
 


To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:17:42 -0400
From: countessghoulita at aol.com
Subject: [kj] (Very OT) Bruno - Autism

I wish I read this article before going to the theatre. Not that I was expecting this movie to be funny in an intelligent way.

http://news.bostonherald.com/entertainment/movies/reviews/view/20090710bruno/srvc=home&position=7

In the very first minutes of the movie, Bruno (Sacha Baron Cohen), an obnoxious fashionista, makes fun of autism in his talk show called "Funkyzeit". This turned me immediately off,  and needed to leave the theatre immediately. If I read that article I would have never gone. I am so ready to debate about this with everyone. Soo ready. Sacha Baron Cohen is on my chopping block. I am pissed off.

I thought you guys should know.

Cheers,

CG








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