[kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
Brendan
bq at soundgardener.co.nz
Wed Jun 10 07:05:01 EDT 2009
When he starts referring to himself in 3rd person and using "one" instead
of "I", one is hanging up one's Joker's hat.
> Spot-on - he'd already disappeared up his own mythical arse by then.
> Apparently (earlier on in Extremities life) he was banging on to the
> crowds during gigs about how poor club class flights are. LOL!!!
> Extremities indeed!!! Totally out of touch with the message of the album.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan
> Sent: 10 June 2009 11:48
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
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> They had to wait for Jaz to polish off a bucket of raw oysters, half a
> litre of Absinthe, finish a carton of Cuban cigars, and be punched in the
> stomach for an hour prior to recording the opening
> "HHHHOOOOIIIIIIIIKKKKKKKKKKHHHHHH"
>
>> Atkins reckons he did his drums in 11 hours. Then had to wait for the
>> rest
>> of the superstars to be arsed to do their bits.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
>> Behalf Of sade1
>> Sent: 10 June 2009 01:50
>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
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>> IIRC from interviews at the time, it was some kind of Jaz project where
>> the guys played but after fighting with Jaz either or both of the 2
>> Pauls
>> refused to have their names on it and basically ordered to Jaz to remove
>> the names (for sure Raven did, acc. to Raven). It was all repackaged as
>> KJ
>> by The (Music) Man in order for The Man to recoup the costs of the album
>> -
>> so i guess all their names went back on it for that reason(?)
>> (but don't take my word for it, see for yourself here:
>> http://www.anirrationaldomain.net/articles/1987-1991/87index.html )
>>
>> Ha ha,I am just noticing now how beautiful it is, the irony of it all
>> that after OTG, KJ turned around and recorded EDVRE in no time at all
>> and for almost next-to-nothing cost and it turned out ot be one of
>> their best and most definitive albums ever.
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>>
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>> Anyone know offhand how long EDVRE did take to record, was it a week, or
>> just under 2 weeks or... ?
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>>
>>
>> ... ... ... ... ... ...
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>> [looking at the current state of things..]
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>>
>> 'Save me...
>> save me from Tomorrow..
>> I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _____
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>> From: "jpwhkj at aol.com" <jpwhkj at aol.com>
>> To: gathering at misera.net
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 5:27:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
>>
>> Yeah, I've wondered that as well. I tend to think that it was an
>> after-the-fact attempt at distancing themselves from a turd. But
>> occasionally I wonder if it really was a Jaz solo album - perhaps
>> especially in terms of composition - and the Pauls just got roped in to
>> playing 'cos they happened to be available.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: MichaelHead at HBOSplc.com
>> To: gathering at misera.net
>> Sent: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 13:26
>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
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>> I've always been puzzled by the assertion that OTG was not meant to be a
>>
>> KJ album. How come the 2 Paul's play on the demo versions of the tracks
>>
>> then?
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>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [
>> mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net?> ]
>>
>> On Behalf Of Brendan
>>
>> Sent: 09 June 2009 13:11
>>
>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>>
>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
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>> I was the first to say, KJ sans Jaz, no way. I'll be the first to agree,
>>
>> OTG IS shit. They have all but acknowledged that, and bearing in mind
>>
>> the fact that it was never intended by the band to be a fully fledged KJ
>>
>> album, I ignore it and don't let it stain their rep at all.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ade you going to download festival? Just saw the line up...sheesh. Some
>>
>> great stuff there. FNM would be up your alley innit? You can go and
>>
>> check out Chris Cornell's saggy tits too.
>>
>>
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>>> Here's another one - OTG is shit. Let's see who has a fucking cry over
>>
>>
>>
>>> that one!
>>
>>>
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
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>>> [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
>>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On?>
>>
>>> Behalf Of Darren A. Peace
>>
>>> Sent: 09 June 2009 12:44
>>
>>> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
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>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
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>>>
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>>>
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>>> Time for your meds?
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>>> Clearly you should burn all your Banshees records as a penance (but
>>
>>> don't microwave the CDs; I can attest that the bits of airborn carbon
>>
>>> take an awful lot of cleaning).
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>>>
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>>> Darren
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>>>
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>>> Hungerford, UK
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>>>
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>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
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>>> [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
>>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net?> ]
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>>> On Behalf Of ade
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>>> Sent: 09 June 2009 12:32 PM
>>
>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
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>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
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>>>
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>>> Wow. It now appears that I've been 'singling' Siouxsie out. If you go
>>
>>> back through the thread you'll find that I was very disappointed with
>>
>>> the fact she can't sing in tune on the 7 Year Itch dvd, that's all.
>>
>>> Just because I find that dvd SO disappointing (disappointing because
>>
>>> it could have been so much better). The vocal fucks the whole thing
>>
>>> up. The performance was mind-numbingly fannytastic - I know, I was
>>
>> there.
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>>> It doesn't mean that every other item I have in my Banshees collection
>>
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>>> (99% of everything) is now rendered SHIT. It doesn't mean I have it in
>>
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>>> for Siouxsie either. FOR FUCK SAKE.
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>>> How DARE I fucking criticise.
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>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
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>>> [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
>>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On?>
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>>> Behalf Of Bette Dillinger
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>>> Sent: 09 June 2009 01:49
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>>> To: gathering at misera.net
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>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
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>>>
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>>> I just watched some video from "The Seven Year Itch" tour on youtube.
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>>> "Voodoo Dolly" done in a primitive way was pretty captivating. Sure,
>>
>>> she sounded primitive as well, but looking at recent footage of say,
>>
>>> Johnny Rotten makes me wonder why she is being singled out. She still
>>
>>
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>>> has a voice, and though out of tune, she embraces that. I also
>>
>>> figured that was part of the point, and she has entralled me for years
>>
>> due to her "fuck it"
>>
>>> attitude. Her voice is spellbinding (har) despite this. John Lydon
>>
>>> can barely get the words out to "Bodies" (I watched his 2007
>>
>>> version).....and was playing the Hard Rock Casino in LV. I still
>>
>>> consider her a force to be reckoned with, I guess is what I am trying
>>
>>> to say. Her voice is even more subversive than when she started.
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>>> _____
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>>>
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>>> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 17:08:32 +0100
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>>> From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk
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>>> To: gathering at misera.net
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>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
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>>>
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>>> She's lovely :)
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>>> Oh, well I'm glad to hear she's regaining her voice. She was nowhere
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>>> near as bad as that 7 yeat itch
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>>> stuff when I saw some of the 90's Creatures gigs.
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>>>
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>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
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>>> [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
>>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On?>
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>>> Behalf Of Steve Hackett
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>>> Sent: 07 June 2009 17:03
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>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
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>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
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>>>
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>>> Its much better than the 7 yr itch, certainly, but at times she does
>>
>>> sound like a wounded buffalo when she tries to force some of the
>>
>>> notes..looks great though. I couldn't get away with a Pam Hogg catsuit
>>
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>>> like she does and I'm NOWHERE NEAR 50...
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>>> ----- Original Message -----
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>>> From: ade < mailto:ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk
>>> <mailto:ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk?> >
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>>> Joke (the band!)
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>>> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 4:04 PM
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>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
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>>> Does she sing in tune on the live Mantaray stuff? I have that 7 year
>>
>>> itch dvd & it's un-fucking-listenable. Utterly, utterly disappointing.
>>
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>>> Luckily I couldn't tell she was ridiculously out of tune when I saw
>>
>>> them on that tour in Sheffield. 'twas an awesome gig...
>>
>>>
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>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
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>>> [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
>>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On?>
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>>> Behalf Of Steve Hackett
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>>> Sent: 06 June 2009 11:02
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>>> To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke
>>
>>> (the
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>>> band!)
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>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
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>>>
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>>> got mine this week too - I think its pretty decent value on Amazon
>>
>>> already. Particularly enjoyed the DVD - comparing the early footage to
>>
>>
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>>> the latest Mantaray DVD I can safely say Siouxsie has aged a lot
>>
>>> better over the last 30 years than me...
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>>>
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>>> ----- Original Message -----
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>>>
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>>> From: Darren A. < mailto:dpeace at bigfoot.com
>>> <mailto:dpeace at bigfoot.com?> > Peace
>>
>>>
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>>> To: 'A < mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net?> >
>>> list about all things Killing
>>
>>> Joke (the band!)'
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>>> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 4:51 PM
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>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
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>>> It's a fantastic package.
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>> It renders "Voices On The Air" obsolete, however, as it includes all
>>
>>> the Peel sessions. The quality is excellent, and the entire thing is
>>
>>> only marred by the usual pretentious wankery of Paul Morley's "essay"
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>>> (sic) in the booklet. The DVD is great too; I can now retire my
>>
>>> DVD-from-TV of the Rock Goes To College.
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>>> Recommended, particularly when it comes down in price a bit.
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>>> Darren
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>>> Hungerford, UK
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>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
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>>> [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
>>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net?> ]
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>>> On Behalf Of Blazingstar418
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>>> Sent: 22 April 2009 8:44 AM
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>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
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>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
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>>> This'll be a good one!
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>>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/At-BBC-Siouxsie-Banshees/dp/B001UJGK7C/ref=dp_
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>>> return_1?ie=UTF8&n=229816&s=music
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>>> A L P
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>>> "The scene was wild and somewhat sinister. The darkness, the palms,
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>>> the mountainous background, the silent lake below, the impenetrable
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>>> canopy of space, studded with secretive and significant stars, formed
>>
>>> a stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze of the ceremony."
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