[kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

[melinda grant]

actually-talking of simple minds- i was in the wimpy cafe-remember those-in bristol back in 80 one afternoon,i was short of a bit of cash,guess who walked in-lead singer from simple minds,we struck up a conforsation and he ended up buying me a cheese burger ;D hes  a real nice bloke i have nothing against him,and their music is ok ;)

 

milindafgrant ps simple minds were playing the colston hall in bristol that night
 

> From: dpeace at bigfoot.com

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 11:35:23 +0100

> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

> 

> I guess so. Stadium Rock periods are seldom forgiven, unless it was clear

> from the start that it was the intention.

> 

> And the early Simple Minds albums (Empires & Dance, Sons & Fascination & New

> Gold Dream) are all excellent, and there are things to like about the others

> too.

> 

> Although the cover of "A Song From Under The Floorboards" on the bonus disc

> with the new album is an ABOMINATION.

> 

> Darren

> Hungerford, UK

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On

> Behalf Of Brendan

> Sent: 10 June 2009 11:25 AM

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

> 

> So tell me, is it the U2 aspirations / comparisons that have the daggers

> drawn for Simple Minds? I honestly thought for a long time that Waterfront

> was a U2 track. Very Bono.

> 

> Then again, I was convinced until recently that dogs couldn't look up.

> 

> > I'd imagine it's the Simple Minds influence that appealed to me.

> >

> > Darren

> > Hungerford, UK

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

> > On

> > Behalf Of Brendan

> > Sent: 10 June 2009 11:07 AM

> > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> > Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

> >

> > *INTENTIONALLY LOUD SNICKER*

> >

> >>>From what Jaz said at the time, it was certainly intended as a KJ album.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> And I quite like it. You can all fuck off.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Darren

> >>

> >> Hungerford, UK

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

> >> On

> >> Behalf Of MichaelHead at HBOSplc.com

> >> Sent: 10 June 2009 8:48 AM

> >> To: gathering at misera.net

> >> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> thanks for the references. still reads to me that OTG started life as a

> >> fully fledged KJ album.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> _____

> >>

> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

> >> On

> >> Behalf Of sade1

> >> Sent: 10 June 2009 01:50

> >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> >> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

> >>

> >> IIRC from interviews at the time, it was some kind of Jaz project where

> >> the

> >> guys played but after fighting with Jaz either or both of the 2 Pauls

> >> refused to have their names on it and basically ordered to Jaz to remove

> >> the

> >> names (for sure Raven did, acc. to Raven). It was all repackaged as KJ

> >> by

> >> The (Music) Man in order for The Man to recoup the costs of the album -

> >> so

> >> i

> >> guess all their names went back on it for that reason(?)

> >>

> >> (but don't take my word for it, see for yourself here:

> >> http://www.anirrationaldomain.net/articles/1987-1991/87index.html )

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Ha ha,I am just noticing now how beautiful it is, the irony of it all

> >> that after OTG, KJ turned around and recorded EDVRE in no time at all

> >> and

> >> for almost next-to-nothing cost and it turned out ot be one of their

> >> best

> >> and most definitive albums ever.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Anyone know offhand how long EDVRE did take to record, was it a week, or

> >> just under 2 weeks or... ?

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> ... ... ... ... ... ...

> >>

> >>

> >> [looking at the current state of things..]

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> 'Save me...

> >>

> >> save me from Tomorrow..

> >>

> >> I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> _____

> >>

> >> From: "jpwhkj at aol.com" <jpwhkj at aol.com>

> >> To: gathering at misera.net

> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 5:27:52 PM

> >> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

> >>

> >> Yeah, I've wondered that as well. I tend to think that it was an

> >> after-the-fact attempt at distancing themselves from a turd. But

> >> occasionally I wonder if it really was a Jaz solo album - perhaps

> >> especially

> >> in terms of composition - and the Pauls just got roped in to playing

> >> 'cos

> >> they happened to be available.

> >>

> >>

> >> -----Original Message-----

> >> From: MichaelHead at HBOSplc.com

> >> To: gathering at misera.net

> >> Sent: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 13:26

> >> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

> >>

> >> I've always been puzzled by the assertion that OTG was not meant to be a

> >> KJ album. How come the 2 Paul's play on the demo versions of the tracks

> >> then?

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> -----Original Message-----

> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net

> >> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net?> ]

> >> On Behalf Of Brendan

> >> Sent: 09 June 2009 13:11

> >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> >> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

> >>

> >> I was the first to say, KJ sans Jaz, no way. I'll be the first to agree,

> >> OTG IS shit. They have all but acknowledged that, and bearing in mind

> >> the fact that it was never intended by the band to be a fully fledged KJ

> >> album, I ignore it and don't let it stain their rep at all.

> >>

> >> Ade you going to download festival? Just saw the line up...sheesh. Some

> >> great stuff there. FNM would be up your alley innit? You can go and

> >> check out Chris Cornell's saggy tits too.

> >>

> >>> Here's another one - OTG is shit. Let's see who has a fucking cry over

> >>

> >>> that one!

> >>>

> >>> -----Original Message-----

> >>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

> >>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On

> >> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On?>

> >>> Behalf Of Darren A. Peace

> >>> Sent: 09 June 2009 12:44

> >>> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'

> >>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Time for your meds?

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Clearly you should burn all your Banshees records as a penance (but

> >>> don't microwave the CDs; I can attest that the bits of airborn carbon

> >>> take an awful lot of cleaning).

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Darren

> >>>

> >>> Hungerford, UK

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

> >>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net

> >> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net?> ]

> >>> On Behalf Of ade

> >>> Sent: 09 June 2009 12:32 PM

> >>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> >>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Wow. It now appears that I've been 'singling' Siouxsie out. If you go

> >>> back through the thread you'll find that I was very disappointed with

> >>> the fact she can't sing in tune on the 7 Year Itch dvd, that's all.

> >>> Just because I find that dvd SO disappointing (disappointing because

> >>> it could have been so much better). The vocal fucks the whole thing

> >>> up. The performance was mind-numbingly fannytastic - I know, I was

> >> there.

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> It doesn't mean that every other item I have in my Banshees collection

> >>

> >>> (99% of everything) is now rendered SHIT. It doesn't mean I have it in

> >>

> >>> for Siouxsie either. FOR FUCK SAKE.

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> How DARE I fucking criticise.

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> -----Original Message-----

> >>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

> >>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On

> >> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On?>

> >>> Behalf Of Bette Dillinger

> >>> Sent: 09 June 2009 01:49

> >>> To: gathering at misera.net

> >>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

> >>>

> >>> I just watched some video from "The Seven Year Itch" tour on youtube.

> >>> "Voodoo Dolly" done in a primitive way was pretty captivating. Sure,

> >>> she sounded primitive as well, but looking at recent footage of say,

> >>> Johnny Rotten makes me wonder why she is being singled out. She still

> >>

> >>> has a voice, and though out of tune, she embraces that. I also

> >>> figured that was part of the point, and she has entralled me for years

> >> due to her "fuck it"

> >>> attitude. Her voice is spellbinding (har) despite this. John Lydon

> >>> can barely get the words out to "Bodies" (I watched his 2007

> >>> version).....and was playing the Hard Rock Casino in LV. I still

> >>> consider her a force to be reckoned with, I guess is what I am trying

> >>> to say. Her voice is even more subversive than when she started.

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> _____

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 17:08:32 +0100

> >>> From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk

> >>> To: gathering at misera.net

> >>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

> >>>

> >>> She's lovely :)

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Oh, well I'm glad to hear she's regaining her voice. She was nowhere

> >>> near as bad as that 7 yeat itch

> >>>

> >>> stuff when I saw some of the 90's Creatures gigs.

> >>>

> >>> -----Original Message-----

> >>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

> >>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On

> >> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On?>

> >>> Behalf Of Steve Hackett

> >>> Sent: 07 June 2009 17:03

> >>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> >>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

> >>>

> >>> Its much better than the 7 yr itch, certainly, but at times she does

> >>> sound like a wounded buffalo when she tries to force some of the

> >>> notes..looks great though. I couldn't get away with a Pam Hogg catsuit

> >>

> >>> like she does and I'm NOWHERE NEAR 50...

> >>>

> >>> ----- Original Message -----

> >>>

> >>> From: ade <mailto:ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk

> >> <mailto:ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk?> >

> >>>

> >>> To: A list <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net?>

> >>> >

> >> about all things Killing

> >>> Joke (the band!)

> >>>

> >>> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 4:04 PM

> >>>

> >>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Does she sing in tune on the live Mantaray stuff? I have that 7 year

> >>> itch dvd & it's un-fucking-listenable. Utterly, utterly disappointing.

> >>

> >>> Luckily I couldn't tell she was ridiculously out of tune when I saw

> >>> them on that tour in Sheffield. 'twas an awesome gig...

> >>>

> >>> -----Original Message-----

> >>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

> >>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On

> >> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On?>

> >>> Behalf Of Steve Hackett

> >>> Sent: 06 June 2009 11:02

> >>> To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke

> >>> (the

> >>> band!)

> >>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

> >>>

> >>> got mine this week too - I think its pretty decent value on Amazon

> >>> already. Particularly enjoyed the DVD - comparing the early footage to

> >>

> >>> the latest Mantaray DVD I can safely say Siouxsie has aged a lot

> >>> better over the last 30 years than me...

> >>>

> >>> ----- Original Message -----

> >>>

> >>> From: Darren A. <mailto:dpeace at bigfoot.com

> >>> <mailto:dpeace at bigfoot.com?>

> >>> >

> >> Peace

> >>>

> >>> To: 'A <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net?> >

> >>> list

> >> about all things Killing

> >>> Joke (the band!)'

> >>>

> >>> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 4:51 PM

> >>>

> >>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> It's a fantastic package.

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> It renders "Voices On The Air" obsolete, however, as it includes all

> >>> the Peel sessions. The quality is excellent, and the entire thing is

> >>> only marred by the usual pretentious wankery of Paul Morley's "essay"

> >>> (sic) in the booklet. The DVD is great too; I can now retire my

> >>> DVD-from-TV of the Rock Goes To College.

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Recommended, particularly when it comes down in price a bit.

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Darren

> >>>

> >>> Hungerford, UK

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

> >>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net

> >> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net?> ]

> >>> On Behalf Of Blazingstar418

> >>> Sent: 22 April 2009 8:44 AM

> >>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> >>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> This'll be a good one!

> >>>

> >>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/At-BBC-Siouxsie-Banshees/dp/B001UJGK7C/ref=dp_

> >>> return_1?ie=UTF8&n=229816&s=music

> >>>

> >>> A L P

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> "The scene was wild and somewhat sinister. The darkness, the palms,

> >>> the mountainous background, the silent lake below, the impenetrable

> >>> canopy of space, studded with secretive and significant stars, formed

> >>> a stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze of the ceremony."

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

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