[kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

[Steve Hackett]

I was 15 :(
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  From: ade 
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  Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 8:40 PM
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  I hope she gave you a spanking! Man, I was 8 then, you bald fucker!
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    From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Steve Hackett
    Sent: 09 June 2009 19:47
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    I waited to meet the band after a gig in brum in 1980, it was pissing it down and freezing cold and I only had a t shirt on..she told me off for not having a coat on...
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      From: Karen Weil 
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      Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 7:40 PM
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      Siouxsie, difficult? Never. She's just her own person. Figures you've met her ...

      k.w.
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        From: melinda grant 
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        Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 11:36 AM
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        thanks editor karen-- ive only met siouxsie/budgie twice,once in lill in northan france at a david bowie gig and at a book signing she did about her autobiography-she is lovlely btw-not moody at all, akward is how journalists try to portray her,as difficult,the bastards lol ;D
         
        milindafgrant
         
         

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        From: karen.weil at sddt.com
        To: gathering at misera.net
        Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 11:26:35 -0700
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        I keep telling you, Ms. Grant -- time to write a book. ; )

        k.w.
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: melinda grant 
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          Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 11:25 AM
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          it appears she was suffering from a cold that lasted a few years at one point,yes refuring to 7 itch to present day minus -manteray- of course which was very good quality vocal vise ;)
          milindafgrant ps did anyone see s.a.t.b in early days? id be interested in your views on her/them back then ;)i saw them first in begining of 1979 and all i can say is that i found her voice very powerful back then ;D
           

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          Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 17:29:38 -0700
          From: blazingstar418 at yahoo.com
          To: gathering at misera.net
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          I mentioned to Ade that I remember hearing rumors that Siouxsie was "suffering from a cold" as the 7 year itch tour started out.


          Doesn't seem like it cleared up by the time they hit the states... 


          A L P

          "Love Me Like A Reptile"

          On Jun 8, 2009, at 3:03 PM, melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com> wrote:


            well put alp i agree with what you said about siouxsie vocal range ;) i also saw her on 7 inch tour,wasnt it poor quality-but i still enjoyed the gig nostolga i guess ;D
             
            milindafgrantps brought the bbc dvd mixes today pleased with that
             

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            Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 14:41:48 -0700
            From: blazingstar418 at yahoo.com
            To: gathering at misera.net
            CC: gathering at misera.net; joker at Z6.com
            Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...


            I saw the 7 year itch tour also and was less than thrilled at the results.


            I don't know how many vocalists there are here on the list, but after a while you can become incapable of recapturing the *notes of your youth*. 


            Bearing in mind that she's been singing some of these songs (without any *proper* training) for 30ish years and that can be a bit damaging your voice.


            The reason that The Creatures and her "Mantaray" material works for her is that she's singing in a different vocal range now.
            She's not aiming for notes that are no longer within her *reach*.


            Some other folks that can't hit all those high notes anymore include Jaz Coleman, Robert Plant, Bruce Dickinson and even Luciano Pavarotti! ;)

            "Love Me Like A Reptile"


            A L P

            On Jun 8, 2009, at 2:22 PM, "ade" <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> wrote:


              Mate, if it's got the Rock Goes to College gig on it, it's going to be bloody good !  Isn't Nocturne one of the best recorded gigs ever? Well, it's one of mine anyway...

              Was reading about the 7YearTwitch dvd last night - yep, universally panned, except by the odd delusional sort.
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                From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Rob's Arse
                Sent: 08 June 2009 22:11
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                The new BBC 4 disc set is excellent thouigh.

                She sings pretty darn good on the live stuff.

                www.iamscuzzy.com www.myspace.com/scuzzywear

                --- ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk wrote:

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                Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 20:25:54 +0100


                Absolutely spot-on - "why on earth did it get through?" is THE question.
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                  From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Alexander Smith
                  Sent: 07 June 2009 20:22
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                  Don't get me wrong -- I'm not defending her performance, just trying to understand it. I'd certainly imagine that she'd listened to the material before it was released on cd/dvd and heard for herself how ripe her ridicule her vocals were. 


                  Alex in NYC






                  On Jun 7, 2009, at 3:17 PM, ade wrote:


                    I don't really see how the configuration of the band would make Siouxsie sing so poorly, as you've
                    heard yourself from listening to it. Back to basics, or whatever, it still doesn't make any sense why
                    she'd be so SO out that it's painful. No excuses man, I gave up after buying that massively disappointing
                    dvd. If she couldn't hear herself, she mustn't have been able to hear herself on every fuckin date, lol !

                    Glad I was too pissed/star-struck for it to spoil my night. I think I'll have to sell the dvd, such is its'
                    unwatchable-ness.

                    Anyone want a dvd of Siouxsie honking like a fucking goose with the Banshees? And before anyone
                    says it, I mean worse than usual !
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                      From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Alexander Smith
                      Sent: 07 June 2009 20:05
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                      I think the whole concept of 7 Year Itch was the back-to-basics approach. Witness the fact that she didn't augment the line-up with a keyboard player, a percussionist, a second guitarist, etc. It was just a four-piece with her out front, just like in the (very) old days. That she sang flat or out of tune wasn't so much by design, but rather just the "warts n' all" delivery." 


                      For what it's worth, I saw her on that tour and it was as dreadful a performance as the one captured on the disc.


                      Alex in NYC






                      On Jun 7, 2009, at 2:50 PM, Darren A. Peace wrote:


                        I got a promo of 7 Year Itch and was so appalled by the flat singing I didn’t buy the album. Only Banshees album I haven’t paid for. She’s badly out of tune on several studio tracks, but that’s sometimes part of the appeal. 7 Year Itch just sounded like she couldn’t hear anything through monitors; she’s consistently a quarter-tone flat, rather than bellowing all over the place.
                        Darren
                        Hungerford, UK
                        From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade
                        Sent: 07 June 2009 4:04 PM
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                        Does she sing in tune on the live Mantaray stuff? I have that 7 year itch dvd & it's un-fucking-listenable. Utterly, utterly disappointing. Luckily I couldn't tell she was ridiculously out of tune when I saw them on that tour in Sheffield. 'twas an awesome gig...
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                          From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Steve Hackett
                          Sent: 06 June 2009 11:02
                          To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
                          Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
                          got mine this week too - I think its pretty decent value on Amazon already. Particularly enjoyed the DVD - comparing the early footage to the latest Mantaray DVD I can safely say Siouxsie has aged a lot better over the last 30 years than me...
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