[kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

[Karen Weil]

But is that your final word, Mr. Peace? ; ) 

k.w.
SoCal
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Darren A. Peace 
  To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 3:00 AM
  Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...


  From what Jaz said at the time, it was certainly intended as a KJ album.

   

  And I quite like it. You can all fuck off.

   

  Darren

  Hungerford, UK

   

  From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of MichaelHead at HBOSplc.com
  Sent: 10 June 2009 8:48 AM
  To: gathering at misera.net
  Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

   

  thanks for the references. still reads to me that OTG started life as a fully fledged KJ album.

   


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  From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1
  Sent: 10 June 2009 01:50
  To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
  Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

  IIRC from interviews at the time, it was some kind of Jaz project where the guys played but after fighting with Jaz either or both of the 2 Pauls refused to have their names on it and basically ordered to Jaz to remove the names (for sure Raven did, acc. to Raven). It was all repackaged as KJ by The (Music) Man in order for The Man to recoup the costs of the album - so i guess all their names went back on it for that reason(?) 

   (but don't take my word for it, see for yourself here: http://www.anirrationaldomain.net/articles/1987-1991/87index.html )

   

     Ha ha,I am just noticing now how beautiful it is, the irony of it all that after OTG, KJ turned around and recorded EDVRE in no time at all and for almost next-to-nothing cost and it turned out ot be one of their best and most definitive albums ever. 

   

  Anyone know offhand how long EDVRE did take to record, was it a week, or just under 2 weeks or... ? 


   

  ... ... ... ... ... ... 


  [looking at the current state of things..]

   

  'Save me...

    save me from Tomorrow..

      I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   

   

   

   


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  From: "jpwhkj at aol.com" <jpwhkj at aol.com>
  To: gathering at misera.net
  Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 5:27:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

  Yeah, I've wondered that as well.  I tend to think that it was an after-the-fact attempt at distancing themselves from a turd.  But occasionally I wonder if it really was a Jaz solo album - perhaps especially in terms of composition - and the Pauls just got roped in to playing 'cos they happened to be available.


  -----Original Message-----
  From: MichaelHead at HBOSplc.com
  To: gathering at misera.net
  Sent: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 13:26
  Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

I've always been puzzled by the assertion that OTG was not meant to be aKJ album. How come the 2 Paul's play on the demo versions of the tracksthen?    -----Original Message-----From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of BrendanSent: 09 June 2009 13:11To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees... I was the first to say, KJ sans Jaz, no way. I'll be the first to agree,OTG IS shit. They have all but acknowledged that, and bearing in mindthe fact that it was never intended by the band to be a fully fledged KJalbum, I ignore it and don't let it stain their rep at all. Ade you going to download festival? Just saw the line up...sheesh. Somegreat stuff there. FNM would be up your alley innit? You can go andcheck out Chris Cornell's saggy tits too. > Here's another one - OTG is shit. Let's see who has a fucking cry over > that one!> > -----Original Message-----> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On> Behalf Of Darren A. Peace> Sent: 09 June 2009 12:44> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...> > > > Time for your meds?> > > > Clearly you should burn all your Banshees records as a penance (but > don't microwave the CDs; I can attest that the bits of airborn carbon > take an awful lot of cleaning).> > > > Darren> > Hungerford, UK> > > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]> On Behalf Of ade> Sent: 09 June 2009 12:32 PM> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...> > > > Wow. It now appears that I've been 'singling' Siouxsie out. If you go > back through the thread you'll find that I was very disappointed with > the fact she can't sing in tune on the 7 Year Itch dvd, that's all. > Just because I find that dvd SO disappointing (disappointing because > it could have been so much better). The vocal fucks the whole thing > up. The performance was mind-numbingly fannytastic - I know, I wasthere.> > > > It doesn't mean that every other item I have in my Banshees collection > (99% of everything) is now rendered SHIT. It doesn't mean I have it in > for Siouxsie either. FOR FUCK SAKE.> > > > How DARE I fucking criticise.> > > > -----Original Message-----> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On> Behalf Of Bette Dillinger> Sent: 09 June 2009 01:49> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...> > I just watched some video from "The Seven Year Itch" tour on youtube.> "Voodoo Dolly" done in a primitive way was pretty captivating.  Sure, > she sounded primitive as well, but looking at recent footage of say, > Johnny Rotten makes me wonder why she is being singled out.  She still > has a voice, and though out of tune, she embraces that.  I also > figured that was part of the point, and she has entralled me for yearsdue to her "fuck it"> attitude.  Her voice is spellbinding (har) despite this.  John Lydon > can barely get the words out to "Bodies" (I watched his 2007 > version).....and was playing the Hard Rock Casino in LV.  I still > consider her a force to be reckoned with, I guess is what I am trying > to say.  Her voice is even more subversive than when she started.> > > >   _____> > > Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 17:08:32 +0100> From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...> > She's lovely :)> > > > Oh, well I'm glad to hear she's regaining her voice. She was nowhere > near as bad as that 7 yeat itch> > stuff when I saw some of the 90's Creatures gigs.> > -----Original Message-----> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On> Behalf Of Steve Hackett> Sent: 07 June 2009 17:03> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...> > Its much better than the 7 yr itch, certainly, but at times she does > sound like a wounded buffalo when she tries to force some of the > notes..looks great though. I couldn't get away with a Pam Hogg catsuit > like she does and I'm NOWHERE NEAR 50...> > ----- Original Message -----> > From: ade <mailto:ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk>> > To: A list  <mailto:gathering at misera.net> about all things Killing > Joke (the band!)> > Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 4:04 PM> > Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...> > > > Does she sing in tune on the live Mantaray stuff? I have that 7 year > itch dvd & it's un-fucking-listenable. Utterly, utterly disappointing. > Luckily I couldn't tell she was ridiculously out of tune when I saw > them on that tour in Sheffield. 'twas an awesome gig...> > -----Original Message-----> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On> Behalf Of Steve Hackett> Sent: 06 June 2009 11:02> To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke > (the> band!)> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...> > got mine this week too - I think its pretty decent value on Amazon > already. Particularly enjoyed the DVD - comparing the early footage to > the latest Mantaray DVD I can safely say Siouxsie has aged a lot > better over the last 30 years than me...> > ----- Original Message -----> > From: Darren A.  <mailto:dpeace at bigfoot.com> Peace> > To: 'A  <mailto:gathering at misera.net> list about all things Killing > Joke (the band!)'> > Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 4:51 PM> > Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...> > > > It's a fantastic package.> > > > It renders "Voices On The Air" obsolete, however, as it includes all > the Peel sessions. The quality is excellent, and the entire thing is > only marred by the usual pretentious wankery of Paul Morley's "essay" > (sic) in the booklet. The DVD is great too; I can now retire my > DVD-from-TV of the Rock Goes To College.> > > > Recommended, particularly when it comes down in price a bit.> > > > Darren> > Hungerford, UK> > > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]> On Behalf Of Blazingstar418> Sent: 22 April 2009 8:44 AM> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...> > > > > This'll be a good one!> > http://www.amazon.co.uk/At-BBC-Siouxsie-Banshees/dp/B001UJGK7C/ref=dp_> return_1?ie=UTF8&n=229816&s=music> > A L P> > > "The scene was wild and somewhat sinister. The darkness, the palms, > the mountainous background, the silent lake below, the impenetrable > canopy of space, studded with secretive and significant stars, formed > a stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze of the ceremony."> > > > >   _____> > > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> > >   _____> > > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> > > > >   _____> > > Windows Live(tm): Keep your life in sync. 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