[kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

[ade]

My off-list admission is even more sickening, I know. I couldn't post it
to the list in case anyone became ill.

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace
Sent: 10 June 2009 20:43
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...


AHA! AN ADMISSION OF CULPABILITY.

A spot of extraordinary rendition and you'll be 'fessing up to Once Upon A
Time, the Mandela Day single and that abortion of a Prince cover they did.

Darren
Hungerford, UK

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of ade
Sent: 10 June 2009 8:31 PM
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

But only the VERY early stuff !

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Karen Weil
Sent: 10 June 2009 19:01
To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke
(the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...


Here, here to Darren's comments on SM. Early stuff was fantastic.

Cheers,

Karen
San Diego, USA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darren A. Peace" <dpeace at bigfoot.com>
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" 
<gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 3:35 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...



>I guess so. Stadium Rock periods are seldom forgiven, unless it was clear

> from the start that it was the intention.

>

> And the early Simple Minds albums (Empires & Dance, Sons & Fascination & 

> New

> Gold Dream) are all excellent, and there are things to like about the 

> others

> too.

>

> Although the cover of "A Song From Under The Floorboards" on the bonus 

> disc

> with the new album is an ABOMINATION.

>

> Darren

> Hungerford, UK

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] 

> On

> Behalf Of Brendan

> Sent: 10 June 2009 11:25 AM

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>

> So tell me, is it the U2 aspirations / comparisons that have the daggers

> drawn for Simple Minds? I honestly thought for a long time that Waterfront

> was a U2 track. Very Bono.

>

> Then again, I was convinced until recently that dogs couldn't look up.

>

>> I'd imagine it's the Simple Minds influence that appealed to me.

>>

>> Darren

>> Hungerford, UK

>>

>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

>> On

>> Behalf Of Brendan

>> Sent: 10 June 2009 11:07 AM

>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>

>> *INTENTIONALLY LOUD SNICKER*

>>

>>>>From what Jaz said at the time, it was certainly intended as a KJ album.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> And I quite like it. You can all fuck off.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Darren

>>>

>>> Hungerford, UK

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

>>> On

>>> Behalf Of MichaelHead at HBOSplc.com

>>> Sent: 10 June 2009 8:48 AM

>>> To: gathering at misera.net

>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> thanks for the references. still reads to me that OTG started life as a

>>> fully fledged KJ album.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>   _____

>>>

>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

>>> On

>>> Behalf Of sade1

>>> Sent: 10 June 2009 01:50

>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>>

>>> IIRC from interviews at the time, it was some kind of Jaz project where

>>> the

>>> guys played but after fighting with Jaz either or both of the 2 Pauls

>>> refused to have their names on it and basically ordered to Jaz to remove

>>> the

>>> names (for sure Raven did, acc. to Raven). It was all repackaged as KJ

>>> by

>>> The (Music) Man in order for The Man to recoup the costs of the album -

>>> so

>>> i

>>> guess all their names went back on it for that reason(?)

>>>

>>>  (but don't take my word for it, see for yourself here:

>>> http://www.anirrationaldomain.net/articles/1987-1991/87index.html )

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>    Ha ha,I am just noticing now how beautiful it is, the irony of it all

>>> that after OTG, KJ turned around and recorded EDVRE in no time at all

>>> and

>>> for almost next-to-nothing cost and it turned out ot be one of their

>>> best

>>> and most definitive albums ever.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Anyone know offhand how long EDVRE did take to record, was it a week, or

>>> just under 2 weeks or... ?

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> ... ... ... ... ... ...

>>>

>>>

>>> [looking at the current state of things..]

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> 'Save me...

>>>

>>>   save me from Tomorrow..

>>>

>>>     I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>   _____

>>>

>>> From: "jpwhkj at aol.com" <jpwhkj at aol.com>

>>> To: gathering at misera.net

>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 5:27:52 PM

>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>>

>>> Yeah, I've wondered that as well.  I tend to think that it was an

>>> after-the-fact attempt at distancing themselves from a turd.  But

>>> occasionally I wonder if it really was a Jaz solo album - perhaps

>>> especially

>>> in terms of composition - and the Pauls just got roped in to playing

>>> 'cos

>>> they happened to be available.

>>>

>>>

>>> -----Original Message-----

>>> From: MichaelHead at HBOSplc.com

>>> To: gathering at misera.net

>>> Sent: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 13:26

>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>>

>>> I've always been puzzled by the assertion that OTG was not meant to be a

>>> KJ album. How come the 2 Paul's play on the demo versions of the tracks

>>> then?

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> -----Original Message-----

>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net

>>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net?> ]

>>> On Behalf Of Brendan

>>> Sent: 09 June 2009 13:11

>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>>

>>> I was the first to say, KJ sans Jaz, no way. I'll be the first to agree,

>>> OTG IS shit. They have all but acknowledged that, and bearing in mind

>>> the fact that it was never intended by the band to be a fully fledged KJ

>>> album, I ignore it and don't let it stain their rep at all.

>>>

>>> Ade you going to download festival? Just saw the line up...sheesh. Some

>>> great stuff there. FNM would be up your alley innit? You can go and

>>> check out Chris Cornell's saggy tits too.

>>>

>>>> Here's another one - OTG is shit. Let's see who has a fucking cry over

>>>

>>>> that one!

>>>>

>>>> -----Original Message-----

>>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

>>>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On

>>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On?>

>>>> Behalf Of Darren A. Peace

>>>> Sent: 09 June 2009 12:44

>>>> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'

>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Time for your meds?

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Clearly you should burn all your Banshees records as a penance (but

>>>> don't microwave the CDs; I can attest that the bits of airborn carbon

>>>> take an awful lot of cleaning).

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Darren

>>>>

>>>> Hungerford, UK

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

>>>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net

>>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net?> ]

>>>> On Behalf Of ade

>>>> Sent: 09 June 2009 12:32 PM

>>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Wow. It now appears that I've been 'singling' Siouxsie out. If you go

>>>> back through the thread you'll find that I was very disappointed with

>>>> the fact she can't sing in tune on the 7 Year Itch dvd, that's all.

>>>> Just because I find that dvd SO disappointing (disappointing because

>>>> it could have been so much better). The vocal fucks the whole thing

>>>> up. The performance was mind-numbingly fannytastic - I know, I was

>>> there.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> It doesn't mean that every other item I have in my Banshees collection

>>>

>>>> (99% of everything) is now rendered SHIT. It doesn't mean I have it in

>>>

>>>> for Siouxsie either. FOR FUCK SAKE.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> How DARE I fucking criticise.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> -----Original Message-----

>>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

>>>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On

>>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On?>

>>>> Behalf Of Bette Dillinger

>>>> Sent: 09 June 2009 01:49

>>>> To: gathering at misera.net

>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>>>

>>>> I just watched some video from "The Seven Year Itch" tour on youtube.

>>>> "Voodoo Dolly" done in a primitive way was pretty captivating.  Sure,

>>>> she sounded primitive as well, but looking at recent footage of say,

>>>> Johnny Rotten makes me wonder why she is being singled out.  She still

>>>

>>>> has a voice, and though out of tune, she embraces that.  I also

>>>> figured that was part of the point, and she has entralled me for years

>>> due to her "fuck it"

>>>> attitude.  Her voice is spellbinding (har) despite this.  John Lydon

>>>> can barely get the words out to "Bodies" (I watched his 2007

>>>> version).....and was playing the Hard Rock Casino in LV.  I still

>>>> consider her a force to be reckoned with, I guess is what I am trying

>>>> to say.  Her voice is even more subversive than when she started.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>   _____

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 17:08:32 +0100

>>>> From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk

>>>> To: gathering at misera.net

>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>>>

>>>> She's lovely :)

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Oh, well I'm glad to hear she's regaining her voice. She was nowhere

>>>> near as bad as that 7 yeat itch

>>>>

>>>> stuff when I saw some of the 90's Creatures gigs.

>>>>

>>>> -----Original Message-----

>>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

>>>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On

>>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On?>

>>>> Behalf Of Steve Hackett

>>>> Sent: 07 June 2009 17:03

>>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>>>

>>>> Its much better than the 7 yr itch, certainly, but at times she does

>>>> sound like a wounded buffalo when she tries to force some of the

>>>> notes..looks great though. I couldn't get away with a Pam Hogg catsuit

>>>

>>>> like she does and I'm NOWHERE NEAR 50...

>>>>

>>>> ----- Original Message -----

>>>>

>>>> From: ade <mailto:ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk

>>> <mailto:ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk?> >

>>>>

>>>> To: A list  <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net?>

>>>> >

>>> about all things Killing

>>>> Joke (the band!)

>>>>

>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 4:04 PM

>>>>

>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Does she sing in tune on the live Mantaray stuff? I have that 7 year

>>>> itch dvd & it's un-fucking-listenable. Utterly, utterly disappointing.

>>>

>>>> Luckily I couldn't tell she was ridiculously out of tune when I saw

>>>> them on that tour in Sheffield. 'twas an awesome gig...

>>>>

>>>> -----Original Message-----

>>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

>>>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On

>>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On?>

>>>> Behalf Of Steve Hackett

>>>> Sent: 06 June 2009 11:02

>>>> To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke

>>>> (the

>>>> band!)

>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>>>

>>>> got mine this week too - I think its pretty decent value on Amazon

>>>> already. Particularly enjoyed the DVD - comparing the early footage to

>>>

>>>> the latest Mantaray DVD I can safely say Siouxsie has aged a lot

>>>> better over the last 30 years than me...

>>>>

>>>> ----- Original Message -----

>>>>

>>>> From: Darren A.  <mailto:dpeace at bigfoot.com

>>>> <mailto:dpeace at bigfoot.com?>

>>>> >

>>> Peace

>>>>

>>>> To: 'A  <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net?> >

>>>> list

>>> about all things Killing

>>>> Joke (the band!)'

>>>>

>>>> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 4:51 PM

>>>>

>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> It's a fantastic package.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> It renders "Voices On The Air" obsolete, however, as it includes all

>>>> the Peel sessions. The quality is excellent, and the entire thing is

>>>> only marred by the usual pretentious wankery of Paul Morley's "essay"

>>>> (sic) in the booklet. The DVD is great too; I can now retire my

>>>> DVD-from-TV of the Rock Goes To College.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Recommended, particularly when it comes down in price a bit.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Darren

>>>>

>>>> Hungerford, UK

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

>>>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net

>>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net?> ]

>>>> On Behalf Of Blazingstar418

>>>> Sent: 22 April 2009 8:44 AM

>>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> This'll be a good one!

>>>>

>>>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/At-BBC-Siouxsie-Banshees/dp/B001UJGK7C/ref=dp_

>>>> return_1?ie=UTF8&n=229816&s=music

>>>>

>>>> A L P

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> "The scene was wild and somewhat sinister. The darkness, the palms,

>>>> the mountainous background, the silent lake below, the impenetrable

>>>> canopy of space, studded with secretive and significant stars, formed

>>>> a stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze of the ceremony."

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

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