[kj] (OT) Singing rule Britannia

[Brendan]

1923, 1 USD = 4.2 TRILLION Mark (4.2 rentemark, the rentemark being one
trillion papiermark). It was cheaper to burn it than to use it to buy
firewood.

I'm not belittling the tough econonmic conditions in the UK at the moment,
but comparisons to 1920s germany are exaggerated, esp in terms of standard
of living.

Just a question of scale I suppose. Germany post WWI was demolished and
had no goods to sell, they could barely feed themselves, and they were
saddled with onerous reparations under the Treaty of Versailles. What
really ranked was being forced to admit that WWI was their fault.


>

> yeah like america ...massive debt

>

>> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:01:50 +1200

>> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

>> To: gathering at misera.net

>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Singing rule Britannia

>>

>> I can't see how the circumstances are similar. Germany was fucked after

>> WWI, they also were forced to take the blame for what was essentially a

>> european arms race that culminated in a war, and pay large reparations

>> (although I don't think they ever paid much). The UK is in a much

>> different position now....isn't it?

>>

>> >

>> > i wouldn't be so sure , the nazi's came to power under similar

>> > cicumstances and generally the masses can be quite fickle and easily

>> > swayed

>> >

>> >> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:36:33 +1200

>> >> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

>> >> To: gathering at misera.net

>> >> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Singing rule Britannia

>> >>

>> >> A proportion of that vote would include those who aren't so much

>> racist,

>> >> rather they reject the current immigration policies but haven't

>> thought

>> >> through the issues and are ignorant of who they are voting for...I

>> think

>> >> as the world population increases, economic woes continue on and

>> wealth

>> >> moves from west to east, we'll be seeing more of this kinda stuff.

>> And

>> >> the

>> >> fasists will attempt to capitalise on it. Long term they can always

>> be

>> >> relied on to shoot themselves in the foot though.

>> >>

>> >> >

>> >> > that 1 in 17 shows you how many '' closet racists '' there are in

>> this

>> >> > country

>> >> >

>> >> > a fact most of the country is in self denial over

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> > Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:57:54 +0100

>> >> > From: MichaelHead at HBOSplc.com

>> >> > To: gathering at misera.net

>> >> > Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Singing rule Britannia

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> > it's an interesting premise "defend democracy" when roughly 1

>> person

>> >> in 17

>> >> > voted for BNP in the EU elections as opposed to say Benn's Labour

>> who

>> >> > polled roughly 1 in 7. surely the act of protesting against this

>> >> party's

>> >> > policies is anti-democratic?

>> >> > what concerns me more, is why so many people (nearly 1 million) are

>> >> that

>> >> > disaffected that they would vote this outright fascist party in the

>> >> first

>> >> > place.

>> >> > we're a little lucky the proportional representation system used in

>> >> these

>> >> > elections runs at regional rather than national level, otherwise

>> >> they'd

>> >> > have had 4 of the 72 elected as opposed to 2.

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

>> >> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

>> >> > On Behalf Of folk devil

>> >> > Sent: 09 June 2009 18:27

>> >> > To: gathering at misera.net

>> >> > Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Singing rule Britannia

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/8091605.stm

>> >> >

>> >> > "Members of Unite Against Fascism, a new group supported by trade

>> >> unions

>> >> > and MPs from all parties, including Tory leader David Cameron, and

>> >> veteran

>> >> > left wing campaigner Tony Benn, said they wanted to "defend

>> democracy"

>> >> > against what they regard as the "fascist" and "racist" policies of

>> the

>> >> > BNP.

>> >> > One told the crowd his message for Mr Griffin was: "Wherever you go

>> in

>> >> > this country we will make sure you are welcomed by demonstrations."

>> >> >

>> >> > Glad it's happening, but this could also promote the BNP.

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

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