[kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead

[Brendan]

You're a great example of either what religion does to people's minds or who
is attracted to religion. Black and white thinking...negative thoughts are
BAD, ergo I don't have any. Oh but you do...
 
In one of your first posts on this list you made a disparaging remark about
me, so all of your blather below is just that. What you think you should be.
Because a bunch of representatives of your collective imaginary friend, who
I might point out have a disproportionately high incidence of molesting
children, tell you is right, enforced with supernatural promises and
threats. Choose me or choose eternal flame...hrm, nice set of options.
Sounds like a plausible offer from a sane omnipotent entity.
 
And if you're like the typical religious idiot there's about a 100% chance
that any evidence to the contrary will be refused entry into your nervous
system or twisted in such a way that it somehow fits the existing model. No
chance of challenging those convictions, that faith. That'd imply some form
of honesty and fallibility. God doesn't work that way!

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, 30 June 2009 4:47 AM
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead


i don't know why i'm bothering 
but half the things you speak of do NOT apply to me 
i do not recall being in any of the scenarios you speak of 
regarding a boss i disliked i just told him what i thought and walked 
i will NOT take shit 
if i like something i say so and vice versa and i do not seek approval from
anyone 
i have never delivered a speech 
i have never tried ''to fit in '' 
i wear something because it is pleasing to me ,NOT because it is fashionable

i occaisionally pay homage to a particular vernacular because it raises a
laugh [ usually at my expense ] but i don't lose sleep over it 
i'll  admit picking my nose in my own time and in my own personal space 
i have never laughed AT someone but prefer to laugh with someone [ except in
the instance of comedy ] 
 

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From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:57:16 +1000
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead


Never had a boss you weren't honest about disliking (lie by omission)? A
friend / partner / family member make a stupid decision or comment that you
smiled and bit your tongue to? A stupid joke you laughed along with for
reasons of social cohesion / subservience? Put on a brave face when you
wanted to cry or scream? Did your best not to look unhappy when being teased
or laughed at? Smiled and posed for a photo? Looked like a tougher version
of yourself when walking past thugs? Pretended not to give a shit when
someone said something that hurt? Pretended to be interested when someone
you like or thought worthy of respect was boring you? Heaped praise on
mediocre performance for what you thought were the right reasons?
 
Do you present the same way when delivering a speech as you do when you're
getting pissed with your mates? Do you wear clothes you don't like for
business or other reasons, to fit in? Never looked back in retrospect and
thought you were an idiot for trying to come across in a particular way to
impress someone else? Presented someone with your representative on a date,
as opposed to the real you? Waited until no one was around before picking
your nose?
 
Ever found yourslf picking up someone else's vernacular because they have a
strong personality? Bought clothes or music or gadgets to 'fit in'? Or to
not fit in...
 
Ever talked shit for an hour straight at a job interview or on a date?
Stifled laughter in order to not hurt someone else's feelings...? Tried not
to look physically disgusted at something / someone who disgusts you? 
 
Hrm...by my calculations, if the above is true then you're FULL OF SHIT.
Just like the rest of us (only slightly moreso ;)
 
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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of jerry bodkin
Sent: Monday, 29 June 2009 11:27 PM
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead



 actually I DON'T 

 
 Same as, it leaves one a touch outspoken at times, but hey, f*£k it!
 
 Jelly...... melting

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From: stephen.l at live.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:49:21 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead

actually I DON'T 
 

> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:13:39 +1200

> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead

> 

> Cos we all pretend we're something we're not.

> 

> >

> > ...cos no one wants to say so to your face?

> >

> >

> >

> > Keep Smiling...

> >

> > http://www.myspace.com/themodelaircraftmuseum

> >

> >

> > http://www.myspace.com/paulwadyexperience

> >

> > Autism also affects adults.

> > Most are isolated and ignored

> > Think. Act. Transform Lives.

> > www.think-differently.org.uk

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

> > To: gathering at misera.net

> > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:11:03 +1000

> > Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > It's damn near illegal and harshly looked down upon to talk bad about a

> > dead person

> >

> > Rraises some interesting questions for those who have an alternative set

> > of ethics as espoused by bands such as Killing Joke etc. From what I've

> > seen that tradition is given lip service but is full of holes to the

> > extent that people will find a way to talk about whatever they want.

> > Personally I've never really bought into it anyway so I don't feel any

> > compunctions either way.

> >

> > It doesn't generally apply to enemies

> > Doesn't apply to anyone who fits into any group it's currently

fashionable

> > to dislike

> > It's okay to say exactly what you want if you preface your comments with

> > the assertion that you're only passing on what someone else said

> > It's behind closed doors and "just between us"

> > All bets are off when you've had a few drinks.

> > Lads / mates can talk about anything...

> > Partners can talk about whatever they want

> > It sells copy, I don't make the news I just print it...I'm just doing my

> > job. I'm just filling a demand, don't blame me I don't buy the tabloids

I

> > just make them...

> >

> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUXBCdt5IPg

> >

> > WHY CAN'T WE JUST ADMIT IT.

> >

> >

> >

> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

> > On Behalf Of sade1

> > Sent: Monday, 29 June 2009 10:11 AM

> > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> > Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >> ...none of the...ass-kissing pieces of tripe that I've read actually

> >> mention his court cases and... settlements...

> >

> >

> > It's damn near illegal and harshly looked down upon to talk bad about a

> > dead person, even if they deliberately were a major asshole in real

> > life.** Even worse when it seems it was all a tragic accidental death

(so

> > they're saying).

> > Worse now that his doctor has lawyered up i don't think they'll have a

> > straight answer on anything until legal and insurance cases have been

> > settled.

> >

> > **besides, even now, television ratings are everything.

> >

> > I would like to see any one of his lawyers write a tell-all about any or

> > all of MJ's cases and settlements. Would reveal lots.

> >

> > ... ... ... ... ... ...

> >

> > [looking at the current state of things..]

> >

> > 'Save me...

> > save me from Tomorrow..

> > I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > From: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>

> > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> > <gathering at misera.net>

> > Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 10:05:26 AM

> > Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Aside from the implication that paedophiles are okay if they've also

> > written some nice songs, my main grievance about this whole bloody

circus

> > is the media conspiracy to hush-up his charming recreational activities.

I

> > could be wrong, but none of the eulogies, bios and ass-kissing pieces of

> > tripe that I've read actually mention his court cases and multi-million

> > dollar out-of-court settlements. The closest any of them have come was a

> > sheepish remark that "[his] later life was dogged by legal problems".

> > Since when did being arrested count as a 'legal problem'? That makes it

> > sound like some boundary dispute with a neigbour, or at worst a little

> > income-tax evasion..

> >

> > It's disgraceful. If Gary Glitter had actually written some half-decent

> > songs, does that mean he was really a nice guy? When he dies do we all

> > have to agree not to mention his child molestation in case it offends

> > someone?

> >

> > Jim.

> >

> > --- On Sun, 28/6/09, Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > It's all fucking meaningless. People have been force-fed this inane

> > bologna for years that MJ was some sort of "genius' (the most abused

word

> > in the English language). Pile of fucking crap.

> > I'm sick of it.

> >

> > Alex in NYC

> >

> >

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: jerry bodkin

> > Sent: Jun 28, 2009 11:24 AM

> > To: gathering at misera.net

> > Subject: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk

> > To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk

> > Subject: RE: [kj] Michael Jackson dead

> > Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:24:17 +0100

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > If his fans liked his music, why didnt they have the c.d's, downloads

etc

> > already? Why the sudden rush to purchase and d/load. Somethings smells

> > and dont just mean his corpse!

> >

> > Jelly.

> >

> >

> >

> > From: dpeace at bigfoot.com

> > To: gathering at misera.net

> > Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:07:37 +0100

> > Subject: Re: [kj] Michael Jackson dead

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Oh Christ.

> >

> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8123085.stm

> >

> > Darren

> > Hungerford, UK

> >

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