[kj] OT - MJ Conclusion

[Brendan]

>From what I gather, as soon as Stephen sniffed any doubt he made his mind

up, that's how I read it at least. The whole question is was it reasonable
doubt. And I'm aware of the distinction between civil and criminal weight of
evidence, however as with any case, it always comes down to evidence (or
should) at the end of the day.
 
I'd move to have you all dismissed from the case if you made up your mind at
the first sign of doubt.

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of jerry bodkin
Sent: Wednesday, 1 July 2009 12:38 AM
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OT - MJ Conclusion


 
 I'm with Jamie Q.C on this one.
 
 Jelemiah Bodkin Q.C
 

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To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:01:48 -0400
From: jpwhkj at aol.com
Subject: Re: [kj] OT - MJ Conclusion

Hi Brendan,

In the UK criminal charges have to be proved "beyond reasonable doubt".
Civil cases rest on "the balance of probability".

So it sounds like (a) Steve did indeed do his job as a juror, and (b) the
judge did explain it.

Jamie QC


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From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:32
Subject: Re: [kj] MJ Conclusion


I'm not taking the piss, but is that HONESTLY what you believe your job as

a juror is? A good lawyer can create an element of doubt about practically

anything, it's about weighing the evidence and making a judgement based on

the weight of probability. As such even circumstantial evidence can result

in convictions, in criminal and civil cases, if it's strong enough etc.

You can't see a single crack in a case and instantly make up your mind

that there's doubt so can be no conviction? Didn't the judge explain your

role as a juror?




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