[kj] The 20 greatest goth tracks?
melinda grant
hollytree1961 at hotmail.com
Thu Mar 12 21:41:17 EDT 2009
i carnt convince you as you are entitled to think as you please and on the point of banshesse(who i have followed since78) i to feel passionatly about there music,but we will have to agree to disagree on the goth aspect ok ;)
milindafgrant ps tinderbox is my fav ;P
From: dpeace at bigfoot.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 01:14:53 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] The 20 greatest goth tracks?
The Scream & Join Hands were predominantly punk records. Oh Mein Papa’s musicbox is the only vaguely goth thing on either. Juju was the 15 seconds (I was a very disconcerted Darren when I saw them touring that at the Gloucester Leisure Centre, was t the front and suddenly realised that Siouxsie wasn’t wearing any underwear); the other McGeogh one, Kiss In The Dreamhouse, wasn’t. Tinderbox (probably my favourite of their later albums) is not goth. No no no.
As Alex says, just because (say) Cities In Dust is trundled out at all the Goth discos doesn’t make them a Goth band.
Christ, if Goth is lots of flange on the guitars, slow songs in minor keys and pretentious vocals, then every song I have ever written is Goth. What a terrifying thought.
Convince me. I love the Banshees, so I’ll get track names too.
So. Goth vs. Emo (which seems to have confused the NME with the appalling My Chemical Romance) smackdown. Who wins? Who has the blackest fingernails?
Darren
Hungerford, UK
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of melinda grant
Sent: 13 March 2009 00:58
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] The 20 greatest goth tracks?
darren your speaking bollocks were s.a.t.b are concerned-they had alot longer than 15 mins of goth--check below
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com
To: gathering at mise.net
Subject: RE: [kj] The 20 greatest goth tracks?
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 00:48:19 +0000
the scream is leaning towards goth-so is join hands,so was juju and not forgetting tinderbox all s.a.t.h--all that amounts to more than 15 minutes of goth darren ;D lol
milindafgrant
From: dpeace at bigfoot.com
To: gathering at misera.net; countessghoulita at aol.com
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 00:40:03 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] The 20 greatest goth tracks?
THEATRE OF HATE are Goth now? Pish and nonsense.
I dispute that even the Banshees were goth for more than 15 seconds. Fields Of The Nephilim (who were crap), March Violets (who were crap), Ghost Dance (who were crap), The Mission (who &c – was there ever a more hideous troll of a front-man than the pucker-faced Hussey?), Gene Loves Jezebel (who &c), The Sisters (who I like, until they became infected with members of All About Eve and Sigue Sigue Shitnik) were goth, because that’s how they positioned themselves. Shades on stage (and consequent stumbling around like a cretin in all the dry ice – saw Eldritch once bark his shins in what must have been a terribly painful way on the monitors once – oh how I laughed); that dry ice again; the occasional Morricone twang on guitar atop a greatcoat.
In passing, did anyone see Fat Bob on Jonathan Ross? He now belongs on this blog:
http://menwholooklikeoldlesbians.blogspot.com/
I even read Mercer alleging that my beloved UK Decay were Goth. Honestly, that man was for Goth what Garry (spit) Bushell was for Oi.
Darren
Hungerford, UK
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexander Smith
Sent: 12 March 2009 23:48
To: countessghoulita at aol.com
Cc: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] The 20 greatest goth tracks?
My point was that just because a single track by a band is labelled "goth," that doesn't make that band's entire oeuvre goth.
Look, I love a lot of the goth bands -- Bauhaus, Sisters of Mercy, The Mish, Fields of the Nephilim, Alien Sex Fiend, the Specimen, The March Violets, Theatre of Hate, Danielle Dax, etc.. -- but KJ and Joy Division are simply a *DIFFERENT BREED OF CAT*
Alex in NYC
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