[kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

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At 02:49 PM 3/18/2009, jerry bodkin wrote:


>  Ever see a brilliant kid in class? Many 

> troublemakers are smart brainy kids going out of their minds

>because of the dulness of the class. Their mind 

>was racing ahead and the rest are trudging along at their own pace.

>

>

>  That was me! Turned into a Right Royal Mix!

>

>  Jelbellion

>

>

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>Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:18:24 -0400

>From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>

>Why should they?  And why should anyone have to "fit in" with everyone else?

>Are we not individuals. When you make groups, 

>you create outcasts. You create an "us and them".

>There is already a divisiveness.

>

>Ever see a brilliant kid in class? Many 

>troublemakers are smart brainy kids going out of their minds

>because of the dulness of the class. Their mind 

>was racing ahead and the rest are trudging along at their own pace.

>

>Individual merit and competition can fuel ideas 

>and are a great motivator. Once you bring in groups you bring in

>bureaucracies and everything gets muddled into one very slow machine.

>

>BTW, ever read Vladimir Voinovich?

>

>Alas, I think I am all out of witticisms today 

>so I'll have to signoff without writing one.

>

>G'day Greg!

>

>At 10:06 AM 3/18/2009, GREG SLAWSON wrote:

>

>Why wouldn't they be able to? (See the movie 

>"Witness" if you really think people can't 

>cooperate). You always get a few who don't fit 

>in with anyone else, but as a comrade once said 

>"for the people who want to live in the woods 

>all by themselves, we can figure out something for them too".

>

>

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>Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 09:53:00 -0400

>From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>

>And what if one can't work cooperatively?

>

>At 09:54 PM 3/17/2009, GREG SLAWSON wrote:

>I agree Brenden, and for 2 reasons:

>1. Humans have thing called brains and can 

>control their own behavior to an extent and

>2. Working cooperatively is the best way to go!

>Greg

>

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>From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:44:44 +1100

>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>

>I read the other day that just over 50% of 

>Americans donate time to volunteer causes, an 

>average of 4.2 hours a week (sounds a little 

>high to me but who knows

most countries are 

>fucked up enough to need all the help they can 

>get). So the idea that ‘humans are inherently 

>selfish,’ that the corrupt will always end up in 

>power

doesn’t hold any water for me. In fact no 

>other species really comes close to us in terms 

>of our altruism and relationships.

>

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>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net 

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>On Behalf Of GREG SLAWSON

>Sent: Wednesday, 18 March 2009 03:31

>To: gathering

>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>

>People are always willing to parrot plattitudes 

>they've learned from anti-communist teachers, 

>parents, etc., w/o really thinking about them. 

>But in the US there is a nightly segment on nbc 

>news about how, in the tough economy, there is 

>an outpouring of people helping each other, 

>doing things for free, giving more to the less 

>fortunate, etc., w/o looking for any praise or 

>payback. And don't forget that we've never lived 

>in a time when poeple in power are prevented 

>form being corrupt, so how can we know if 

>everyone in power will automatically be corrupt?

>

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>From: folk.devil at hotmail.com

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:30:35 -0700

>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>I find it interesting when some people term 

>humanity as some form of parasite. Do these 

>people include themselves in the analogy, or 

>not? If yes, do they use the idea as some form 

>of condonation for not giving a sh*t?

>There is a trend, particularly in industrial 

>music, to adopt this idea....hell of a way to 

>perpetuate the inert, or do they feel that they 

>are in touch with the zeitgeist?

>

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>From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:22:44 +1100

>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

><http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1655415,00.html>http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1655415,00.html 

>

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>On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence

>Sent: Tuesday, 17 March 2009 22:31

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>

>mankind has and continues to rule to the 

>detriment of others . Any leader showing 

>compassion is usually assassinated.Power 

>corrupts and usually those at the top are 

>moulded and coersed by the host of sychophants 

>and other manipulators who have thier own agenda 

>.  No doubt i will be scoffed and jeered at when 

>i say that mankind is incapable of looking after 

>himself and the world will only change for the 

>better when jesus comes to right the wrongs 

>...remember how they laughed at the people 

>attempting to make flight possible ...i rest my case

>

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>From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:01:15 +0000

>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>

>  and there has to a way to recall leaders when 

> they do try to climb above others...

>

>  Like a coup or an asassination? I wish i had 

> your faith, but 99% of the time, those that 

> rise to the top make damn sure they can stay 

> there. You can never stop those that wish to 

> suceed at the expense of others, "feather the 

> nest and fuck the rest" etc. The concept of a 

> council like the Roman senate was supposed to 

> keep things fair and right but ultimately 

> backhanders, coersion and corruption take over, 

> all to satisfy the greedy few, and those Wolves 

> ALWAYS come dressed in Sheeps clothing.

>

>Nah, i think i'l just stick to treating people 

>like i want to be treated myself and hope it eventually rubs off on everyone.

>

>Keep dreaming Jel.

>

>Over and out

>

>Jelski

>

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>From: gregslawson at msn.com

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:36:00 -0400

>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>That's the key--how to keep people from being 

>top of the pile and ripping others off. The 

>decision-making has to be collectivized and 

>people have to be accountable (the opposite of 

>the US bankers) and there has to a way to recall 

>leaders when they do try to climb above others...

>

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>From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:59:07 +0000

>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>(w/communist distribution of goods and services according to need).

>

>And WHO decides who needs what? There's always 

>someone at the top of the pile. Great in theory, sadly lacking in practice.

>

>  Jelski

>

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>From: gregslawson at msn.com

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:27:30 -0400

>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>Funny, the Progressive Labor Party advocates a 

>future revolutionary society in which we operate 

>without money! (w/communist distribution of 

>goods and services according to need). Maybe Jaz will join!

>

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>From: gasw30 at hotmail.com

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:19:35 +0000

>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>Presumably Jaz's talk will centre on his upcoming book:

>

> From Jaz's entry on the wikipedia site (I don't 

> think it's been mentioned here yet, but apols etc).

>

>Coleman is writing a book about permaculture, 

>free energy, freedom and freedom-loving 

>individuals. The main thesis is on how to 

>survive without money. The book will be divided 

>into two parts; one part concentrating on the 

>music and other on the ideas behind 

>it.<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaz_Coleman#cite_note-9> 

><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaz_Coleman#cite_note-9>[10] 

>The book is planned to be published in 2009. 

><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaz_Coleman#cite_note-10>[11]

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>From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:09:36 +0000

>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>but bob we may not be able to contain laughter ;D)))

>

>i will ask as well for free,i dont care lol

>

>milindafgrant

>

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>From: bbarathy at btinternet.com

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:32:16 +0000

>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>If I go up then you're not allowed to snigger 

>behind me! Or blowpipe me in the back with chewed up paper

>

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> >part of what keeps us all interested.

>And constantly frustrated

>I have a crisp £5 note for the first person to 

>ask him about Gems of Power at the London do :o)

>Marc.

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