[kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

[The Exorcist]

Not defending anyone. Notice I referred to Rush 
when using the term "Moral Compass" .

The point I was trying to make is when you 
disagree with someone why not defeat the person
based on debate/opinion and actions. Not on the 
concept of "ohhh I hope he/she fucks up".
If you (not YOU per se) need that type of 
occurrence to happen in order to point out flaws
it is a sign that you simply can't beat them and 
that you can't prove them wrong.


At 08:00 PM 3/18/2009, Karen Weil wrote:

>I agree with you about the massage parlors issue 

>-- but don't waste your energy defending either 

>of those blowhards. Neither are deserving of it.

>And given that O'Reilly has written a book 

>called "Cultural Warrior," he *is* a hypocrite. 

>I couldn't care less about him (or the Fat One, 

>either -- who would be taken even less seriously 

>if he had the cajones to be a moral compass, 

>which is he is *not*) -- but had to point that out.

>

>Happy Wednesday,

>

>K.W.

>----- Original Message -----

>From: <mailto:killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com>The Exorcist

>To: <mailto:gathering at misera.net>A list about 

>all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 4:30 PM

>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>

>Personally I support the concept of those 

>"Massage Parlors" as well as the legalizing of

>prostitution. If a man/woman wants to have sex 

>and someone is willing to pay, what the hell is the problem?

>It's all based on the "religious morality" there 

>is in essence nothing wrong with it.

>

>And why would you hope they get caught by such a 

>thing? In order to say "ohhhhhh you hypocrite" because

>you don't agree with them? (nor do I recall Rush 

>claiming to be a moral compass. Conservatism has many factions)

>What if they never get caught? That's just silly talk.

>

>Ever hear an smoker hacking his lungs out preach 

>to a youngin about not smoking?

>He might even do it while have a smoke, but it doesn't mean he is wrong.

>

>At 03:33 PM 3/18/2009, sade1 wrote:

>> > but vs Bill O’Reilly

.they don’t

>>

>>TTrue, true. That bunch just cross my 

>>threshhold of repugnance beyond which i just change the channel.

>>

>>I hope Billy O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh both get "Punk'd" at some local

>>"massage parlor" - but instead of Ashton Kutcher jumping out of the sauna

>>saying "Punk'd" it should be New York 

>>Atty.General 

>><http://www.thecronline.com/uploads/magart_images/Andrew-Cuomo2%5b1%5d.JPG>Andy 

>>Cuomo with arrest warrants and subpoenas.

>>

>>

>>... ... ... ... ... ...

>>

>>[looking at the current state of things..]

>>

>>'Save me...

>>   save me from Tomorrow..

>>     I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>From: Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>

>>Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:55:20 PM

>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>

>>Okay The View is lame (today they were harping 

>>on about how great Michael Jackson is) – but vs 

>>Bill O’Reillly

.they don’t invite 

>>‘guests’ on, shout at them, over them, turn 

>>their mic off, throw them off, misrepresent what they said



>>

>>

>>

>>----------

>>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ 

>>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1

>>Sent: Wednesday, 18 March 2009 13:21

>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>

>>

>>

>> > Does the US left have any figures as 

>> repugnant as Bill O’Reilly, Coulter, and Rush Limbaugh?

>>

>>

>>

>>right off the top of me head, theres,

>>

>>  - Keith Olbermann, as of when he finally 

>> flipped his lid (after apparently straining and bruising the left half of his

>>

>>    brain?), and

>>

>>  - The Four Clowns on The View (Whoopi, Joy, 

>> Sheri "I do Believe the Earth is flat"[wtf?], and Barbara Walters)

>>

>>                          who, appropriately 

>> enough, always sit to the left of the table.

>>

>>  - Rosie O'Donnell (oh god..where does one start?)

>>

>>  - Reverend Al Sharpton, (racist, divisive social parasite leeching his own)

>>

>>  - Eleanor Clift (a sycophant par excellence)

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>... ... ... ... ... ...

>>

>>

>>[looking at the current state of things..]

>>

>>

>>

>>'Save me...

>>

>>   save me from Tomorrow..

>>

>>     I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>From: Brendan Quinn < bq at soundgardener.co.nz >

>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>

>>Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 6:53:58 PM

>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>

>>Haha

it’s ccertainly trying times for capitalism.

>>

>>

>>

>>Side note: Does the US left have any figures as 

>>repugnant as Bill O’Reilly, Coulter, and Rush 

>>Limbaugh? They’re practically intolerable, 

>>and why anyone still listens to them in the current climate is beyond me.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>----------

>>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ 

>>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1

>>Sent: Wednesday, 18 March 2009 06:46

>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>

>>

>>

>>For those who, um, dress to the political Left and the people

>>

>>who love them, I just saw this in today's news..

>>

>>

>>

>>"It's too bad Marxists don't believe in god. Otherwise they'd be thanking

>>

>>him for having sent A.I.G. down to earth to destroy capitalism."

>>

>>  ~~  Economics and law Professor William K. Black,

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>... ... ... ... ... ...

>>

>>

>>[looking at the current state of things..]

>>

>>

>>

>>'Save me...

>>

>>   save me from Tomorrow..

>>

>>     I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>From: GREG SLAWSON < gregslawson at msn.com >

>>To: gathering <gathering at misera.net>

>>Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:30:59 AM

>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>

>>People are always willing to parrot plattitudes 

>>they've learned from anti-communist teachers, 

>>parents, etc., w/o really thinking about them. 

>>But in the US there is a nightly segment on nbc 

>>news about how, in the tough economy, there is 

>>an outpouring of people helping each other, 

>>doing things for free, giving more to the less 

>>fortunate, etc., w/o looking for any praise or 

>>payback. And don't forget that we've never 

>>lived in a time when poeple in power are 

>>prevented form being corrupt, so how can we 

>>know if everyone in power will automatically be corrupt?

>>

>>

>>----------

>>From: folk.devil at hotmail.com

>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:30:35 -0700

>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>

>>I find it interesting when some people term 

>>humanity as some form of parasite. Do these 

>>people include themselves in the analogy, or 

>>not? If yes, do they use the idea as some form 

>>of condonation for not giving a sh*t?

>>There is a trend, particularly in industrial 

>>music, to adopt this idea....hell of a way to 

>>perpetuate the inert, or do they feel that they 

>>are in touch with the zeitgeist?

>>

>>

>>

>>----------

>>From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:22:44 +1100

>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>

>><http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1655415,00.html>http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1655415,00.html

>>

>>

>>

>>----------

>>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ 

>>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence

>>Sent: Tuesday, 17 March 2009 22:31

>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>

>>

>>

>>mankind has and continues to rule to the 

>>detriment of others . Any leader showing 

>>compassion is usually assassinated.Power 

>>corrupts and usually those at the top are 

>>moulded and coersed by the host of sychophants 

>>and other manipulators who have thier own 

>>agenda .  No doubt i will be scoffed and jeered 

>>at when i say that mankind is incapable of 

>>looking after himself and the world will only 

>>change for the better when jesus comes to right 

>>the wrongs ...remember how they laughed at the 

>>people attempting to make flight possible ...i rest my case

>>

>>

>>----------

>>From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk

>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:01:15 +0000

>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>

>>

>>  and there has to a way to recall leaders when 

>> they do try to climb above others...

>>

>>

>>  Like a coup or an asassination? I wish i had 

>> your faith, but 99% of the time, those that 

>> rise to the top make damn sure they can stay 

>> there. You can never stop those that wish to 

>> suceed at the expense of others, "feather the 

>> nest and fuck the rest" etc. The concept of a 

>> council like the Roman senate was supposed to 

>> keep things fair and right but ultimately 

>> backhanders, coersion and corruption take 

>> over, all to satisfy the greedy few, and those 

>> Wolves ALWAYS come dressed in Sheeps clothing.

>>

>>Nah, i think i'l just stick to treating people 

>>like i want to be treated myself and hope it eventually rubs off on everyone.

>>

>>Keep dreaming Jel.

>>

>>Over and out

>>

>>Jelski

>>

>>

>>----------

>>From: gregslawson at msn.com

>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:36:00 -0400

>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>

>>That's the key--how to keep people from being 

>>top of the pile and ripping others off. The 

>>decision-making has to be collectivized and 

>>people have to be accountable (the opposite of 

>>the US bankers) and there has to a way to 

>>recall leaders when they do try to climb above others...

>>

>>

>>----------

>>From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk

>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:59:07 +0000

>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>

>>(w/communist distribution of goods and services according to need).

>>

>>And WHO decides who needs what? There's always 

>>someone at the top of the pile. Great in theory, sadly lacking in practice.

>>

>>  Jelski

>>

>>

>>----------

>>From: gregslawson at msn.com

>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:27:30 -0400

>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>

>>Funny, the Progressive Labor Party advocates a 

>>future revolutionary society in which we 

>>operate without money! (w/communist 

>>distribution of goods and services according to need). Maybe Jaz will join!

>>

>>

>>----------

>>From: gasw30 at hotmail.com

>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:19:35 +0000

>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>

>>Presumably Jaz's talk will centre on his upcoming book:

>>

>>

>>

>> From Jaz's entry on the wikipedia site (I 

>> don't think it's been mentioned here yet, but apols etc).

>>

>>

>>

>>Coleman is writing a book about permaculture, 

>>free energy, freedom and freedom-loving 

>>individuals. The main thesis is on how to 

>>survive without money. The book will be divided 

>>into two parts; one part concentrating on the 

>>music and other on the ideas behind 

>>it.<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaz_Coleman#cite_note-9> 

>><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaz_Coleman#cite_note-9>[10] 

>>The book is planned to be published in 2009. 

>><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaz_Coleman#cite_note-10>[11]

>>

>>----------

>>From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com

>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:09:36 +0000

>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>

>>but bob we may not be able to contain laughter ;D)))

>>

>>i will ask as well for free,i dont care lol

>>

>>milindafgrant

>>

>>

>>----------

>>From: bbarathy at btinternet.com

>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:32:16 +0000

>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>

>>If I go up then you're not allowed to snigger 

>>behind me! Or blowpipe me in the back with chewed up paper

>>

>>

>>

>>boBToo

>>

>><http://www.killingjoke.co.uk/>www.killingjoke.co.uk

>>

>>www.teamkinetic.co.uk

>>

>><http://www.bobtoo.co.uk/>www.bobtoo.co.uk

>>-----Original Message-----

>>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ 

>>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Phillipps Marc

>>Sent: 13 March 2009 16:15

>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>> >part of what keeps us all interested.

>>And constantly frustrated

>>I have a crisp £5 note for the first person to 

>>ask him about Gems of Power at the London do :o)

>>Marc.

>>

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