[kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

[The Exorcist]

I'll have a seltzer on the rocks.
Why can't we go to a massage parlor instead? :)

At 08:17 PM 3/18/2009, Karen Weil wrote:

>Point taken. Score one for Team Ex! ; )

>Let's all go celebrate at the bar.

>

>k.w.

>----- Original Message -----

>From: <mailto:killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com>The Exorcist

>To: <mailto:gathering at misera.net>A list about 

>all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 5:10 PM

>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>

>Not defending anyone. Notice I referred to Rush 

>when using the term "Moral Compass" .

>

>The point I was trying to make is when you 

>disagree with someone why not defeat the person

>based on debate/opinion and actions. Not on the 

>concept of "ohhh I hope he/she fucks up".

>If you (not YOU per se) need that type of 

>occurrence to happen in order to point out flaws

>it is a sign that you simply can't beat them and 

>that you can't prove them wrong.

>

>

>At 08:00 PM 3/18/2009, Karen Weil wrote:

>>I agree with you about the massage parlors 

>>issue -- but don't waste your energy defending 

>>either of those blowhards. Neither are deserving of it.

>>And given that O'Reilly has written a book 

>>called "Cultural Warrior," he *is* a hypocrite. 

>>I couldn't care less about him (or the Fat One, 

>>either -- who would be taken even less 

>>seriously if he had the cajones to be a moral 

>>compass, which is he is *not*) -- but had to point that out.

>>

>>Happy Wednesday,

>>

>>K.W.

>>----- Original Message -----

>>From: <mailto:killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com>The Exorcist

>>To: <mailto:gathering at misera.net>A list about 

>>all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 4:30 PM

>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>Personally I support the concept of those 

>>"Massage Parlors" as well as the legalizing of

>>prostitution. If a man/woman wants to have sex 

>>and someone is willing to pay, what the hell is the problem?

>>It's all based on the "religious morality" 

>>there is in essence nothing wrong with it.

>>And why would you hope they get caught by such 

>>a thing? In order to say "ohhhhhh you hypocrite" because

>>you don't agree with them? (nor do I recall 

>>Rush claiming to be a moral compass. Conservatism has many factions)

>>What if they never get caught? That's just silly talk.

>>Ever hear an smoker hacking his lungs out 

>>preach to a youngin about not smoking?

>>He might even do it while have a smoke, but it doesn't mean he is wrong.

>>At 03:33 PM 3/18/2009, sade1 wrote:

>>> > but vs Bill O’Reilly

.they don’t

>>>

>>>TTrue, true. That bunch just cross my 

>>>threshhold of repugnance beyond which i just change the channel.

>>>

>>>I hope Billy O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh both get "Punk'd" at some local

>>>"massage parlor" - but instead of Ashton Kutcher jumping out of the sauna

>>>saying "Punk'd" it should be New York 

>>>Atty.General 

>>><http://www.thecronline.com/uploads/magart_images/Andrew-Cuomo2%5b1%5d.JPG>Andy 

>>>Cuomo with arrest warrants and subpoenas.

>>>

>>>

>>>... ... ... ... ... ...

>>>

>>>[looking at the current state of things..]

>>>

>>>'Save me...

>>>   save me from Tomorrow..

>>>     I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>From: Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

>>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>

>>>Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:55:20 PM

>>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>>Okay The View is lame (today they were harping 

>>>on about how great Michael Jackson is) – but 

>>>vs Bill O’Reillly

.they don’t invite 

>>>‘guests’ on, shout at them, over them, 

>>>turn their mic off, throw them off, misrepresent what they said



>>>----------

>>>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ 

>>>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1

>>>Sent: Wednesday, 18 March 2009 13:21

>>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>>

>>> > Does the US left have any figures as 

>>> repugnant as Bill O’Reilly, Coulter, and Rush Limbaugh?

>>>

>>>right off the top of me head, theres,

>>>  - Keith Olbermann, as of when he finally 

>>> flipped his lid (after apparently straining 

>>> and bruising the left half of his

>>>    brain?), and

>>>  - The Four Clowns on The View (Whoopi, Joy, 

>>> Sheri "I do Believe the Earth is flat"[wtf?], and Barbara Walters)

>>>                          who, appropriately 

>>> enough, always sit to the left of the table.

>>>  - Rosie O'Donnell (oh god..where does one start?)

>>>  - Reverend Al Sharpton, (racist, divisive 

>>> social parasite leeching his own)

>>>  - Eleanor Clift (a sycophant par excellence)

>>>

>>>

>>>... ... ... ... ... ...

>>>[looking at the current state of things..]

>>>

>>>'Save me...

>>>   save me from Tomorrow..

>>>     I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'

>>>

>>>

>>>From: Brendan Quinn < bq at soundgardener.co.nz >

>>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>

>>>Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 6:53:58 PM

>>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>>Haha

it’s ccertainly trying times for capitalism.

>>>

>>>Side note: Does the US left have any figures 

>>>as repugnant as Bill O’Reilly, Coulter, and 

>>>Rush Limbaugh? They’re practically 

>>>intolerable, and why anyone still listens to 

>>>them in the current climate is beyond me.

>>>

>>>----------

>>>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ 

>>>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1

>>>Sent: Wednesday, 18 March 2009 06:46

>>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>>

>>>For those who, um, dress to the political Left and the people

>>>who love them, I just saw this in today's news..

>>>

>>>"It's too bad Marxists don't believe in god. Otherwise they'd be thanking

>>>him for having sent A.I.G. down to earth to destroy capitalism."

>>>  ~~  Economics and law Professor William K. Black,

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>... ... ... ... ... ...

>>>[looking at the current state of things..]

>>>

>>>'Save me...

>>>   save me from Tomorrow..

>>>     I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'

>>>

>>>

>>>From: GREG SLAWSON < gregslawson at msn.com >

>>>To: gathering <gathering at misera.net>

>>>Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:30:59 AM

>>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>>People are always willing to parrot 

>>>plattitudes they've learned from 

>>>anti-communist teachers, parents, etc., w/o 

>>>really thinking about them. But in the US 

>>>there is a nightly segment on nbc news about 

>>>how, in the tough economy, there is an 

>>>outpouring of people helping each other, doing 

>>>things for free, giving more to the less 

>>>fortunate, etc., w/o looking for any praise or 

>>>payback. And don't forget that we've never 

>>>lived in a time when poeple in power are 

>>>prevented form being corrupt, so how can we 

>>>know if everyone in power will automatically be corrupt?

>>>

>>>

>>>----------

>>>From: folk.devil at hotmail.com

>>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>>Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:30:35 -0700

>>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>>I find it interesting when some people term 

>>>humanity as some form of parasite. Do these 

>>>people include themselves in the analogy, or 

>>>not? If yes, do they use the idea as some form 

>>>of condonation for not giving a sh*t?

>>>There is a trend, particularly in industrial 

>>>music, to adopt this idea....hell of a way to 

>>>perpetuate the inert, or do they feel that 

>>>they are in touch with the zeitgeist?

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>----------

>>>From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

>>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>>Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:22:44 +1100

>>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>><http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1655415,00.html>http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1655415,00.html

>>>----------

>>>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ 

>>>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence

>>>Sent: Tuesday, 17 March 2009 22:31

>>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>>

>>>mankind has and continues to rule to the 

>>>detriment of others . Any leader showing 

>>>compassion is usually assassinated.Power 

>>>corrupts and usually those at the top are 

>>>moulded and coersed by the host of sychophants 

>>>and other manipulators who have thier own 

>>>agenda .  No doubt i will be scoffed and 

>>>jeered at when i say that mankind is incapable 

>>>of looking after himself and the world will 

>>>only change for the better when jesus comes to 

>>>right the wrongs ...remember how they laughed 

>>>at the people attempting to make flight possible ...i rest my case

>>>

>>>

>>>----------

>>>From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk

>>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>>Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:01:15 +0000

>>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>>

>>>  and there has to a way to recall leaders 

>>> when they do try to climb above others...

>>>

>>>

>>>  Like a coup or an asassination? I wish i had 

>>> your faith, but 99% of the time, those that 

>>> rise to the top make damn sure they can stay 

>>> there. You can never stop those that wish to 

>>> suceed at the expense of others, "feather the 

>>> nest and fuck the rest" etc. The concept of a 

>>> council like the Roman senate was supposed to 

>>> keep things fair and right but ultimately 

>>> backhanders, coersion and corruption take 

>>> over, all to satisfy the greedy few, and 

>>> those Wolves ALWAYS come dressed in Sheeps clothing.

>>>

>>>Nah, i think i'l just stick to treating people 

>>>like i want to be treated myself and hope it eventually rubs off on everyone.

>>>

>>>Keep dreaming Jel.

>>>

>>>Over and out

>>>

>>>Jelski

>>>

>>>

>>>----------

>>>From: gregslawson at msn.com

>>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>>Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:36:00 -0400

>>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>>That's the key--how to keep people from being 

>>>top of the pile and ripping others off. The 

>>>decision-making has to be collectivized and 

>>>people have to be accountable (the opposite of 

>>>the US bankers) and there has to a way to 

>>>recall leaders when they do try to climb above others...

>>>

>>>

>>>----------

>>>From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk

>>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>>Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:59:07 +0000

>>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>>(w/communist distribution of goods and services according to need).

>>>

>>>And WHO decides who needs what? There's always 

>>>someone at the top of the pile. Great in theory, sadly lacking in practice.

>>>

>>>

>>>  Jelski

>>>

>>>

>>>----------

>>>From: gregslawson at msn.com

>>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>>Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:27:30 -0400

>>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>>Funny, the Progressive Labor Party advocates a 

>>>future revolutionary society in which we 

>>>operate without money! (w/communist 

>>>distribution of goods and services according to need). Maybe Jaz will join!

>>>

>>>

>>>----------

>>>From: gasw30 at hotmail.com

>>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>>Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:19:35 +0000

>>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>>Presumably Jaz's talk will centre on his upcoming book:

>>>

>>> From Jaz's entry on the wikipedia site (I 

>>> don't think it's been mentioned here yet, but apols etc).

>>>

>>>Coleman is writing a book about permaculture, 

>>>free energy, freedom and freedom-loving 

>>>individuals. The main thesis is on how to 

>>>survive without money. The book will be 

>>>divided into two parts; one part concentrating 

>>>on the music and other on the ideas behind 

>>>it.<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaz_Coleman#cite_note-9> 

>>><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaz_Coleman#cite_note-9>[10] 

>>>The book is planned to be published in 2009. 

>>><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaz_Coleman#cite_note-10>[11]

>>>----------

>>>From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com

>>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>>Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:09:36 +0000

>>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>>but bob we may not be able to contain laughter ;D)))

>>>

>>>i will ask as well for free,i dont care lol

>>>

>>>milindafgrant

>>>

>>>

>>>----------

>>>From: bbarathy at btinternet.com

>>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>>Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:32:16 +0000

>>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>>If I go up then you're not allowed to snigger 

>>>behind me! Or blowpipe me in the back with chewed up paper

>>>

>>>boBToo

>>><http://www.killingjoke.co.uk/>www.killingjoke.co.uk

>>>www.teamkinetic.co.uk

>>><http://www.bobtoo.co.uk/>www.bobtoo.co.uk

>>>-----Original Message-----

>>>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ 

>>>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Phillipps Marc

>>>Sent: 13 March 2009 16:15

>>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>> >part of what keeps us all interested.

>>>And constantly frustrated

>>>I have a crisp £5 note for the first person 

>>>to ask him about Gems of Power at the London do :o)

>>>Marc.

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