[kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

[Karen Weil]

Oh, geez ... that would be painful on every level! ; ) 

k.w.
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  > can we skip all of 'em? 

  Yes but....
     I would settle for Maureen Dowd(D) and Monica Crowley(H) battling it out, over the ledge of "the slippery slope." 
  Reality TV n' all that..



  ... ... ... ... ... ... 

  [looking at the current state of things..]

  'Save me...
    save me from Tomorrow..
      I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   






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  From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>
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  Sheesh ... can we skip all of 'em?  ; ) 

  k.w.
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    > [Eleanor Clift] pitted weekly against Monica Crowley... really completes that 
    > Janus-like caricature of current u.s. politics

    ...unless we consider the current catfight between Ann Coulter+Laura Ingraham and John McCain's daughter. wtf's that all about?

     
    ... ... ... ... ... ... 

    [looking at the current state of things..]

    'Save me...
      save me from Tomorrow..
        I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   






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    From: sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com>
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    Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:42:51 PM
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       I see her every week on tv and occassionally read her column, and she's 
    a political pelican, that's how much water she can carry as she incoherently 
    and inarticulately babbles on and gushes forth about anything.  True, she is 
    smart, but.. that's the tragedy of it all.  
       She is a belittling Liberal stereotype making "the cause" look bad. I guess 
    it's only appropriate, then, that she is thus pitted weekly against Monica Crowley 
    and that type. It really completes that Janus-like caricature of current u.s. politics. 


    ... ... ... ... ... ... 

    [looking at the current state of things..]

    'Save me...
      save me from Tomorrow..
        I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   






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    From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>
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    Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:12:30 AM
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    Sade1: Do not agree with you about Clift whatsoever, but yeah -- the others are annoying. Olbermann has worn out his welcome, and the others aren't to be taken seriously, period.
    Ah, punditry ...

    k.w.
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      > Does the US left have any figures as repugnant as Bill O’Reilly, Coulter, and Rush Limbaugh?


      right off the top of me head, theres,

       - Keith Olbermann, as of when he finally flipped his lid (after apparently straining and bruising the left half of his  

         brain?), and 

       - The Four Clowns on The View (Whoopi, Joy, Sheri "I do Believe the Earth is flat"[wtf?], and Barbara Walters) 

                               who, appropriately enough, always sit to the left of the table. 

       - Rosie O'Donnell (oh god..where does one start?)

       - Reverend Al Sharpton, (racist, divisive social parasite leeching his own)

       - Eleanor Clift (a sycophant par excellence)



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      [looking at the current state of things..]

      'Save me...
        save me from Tomorrow..
          I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   






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      From: Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
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      Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 6:53:58 PM
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      Haha…it’s certainly trying times for capitalism.



      Side note: Does the US left have any figures as repugnant as Bill O’Reilly, Coulter, and Rush Limbaugh? They’re practically intolerable, and why anyone still listens to them in the current climate is beyond me. 






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      From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1
      Sent: Wednesday, 18 March 2009 06:46
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      For those who, um, dress to the political Left and the people 

      who love them, I just saw this in today's news..



      "It's too bad Marxists don't believe in god. Otherwise they'd be thanking 

      him for having sent A.I.G. down to earth to destroy capitalism."

       ~~  Economics and law Professor William K. Black,







      ... ... ... ... ... ... 


      [looking at the current state of things..]



      'Save me...

        save me from Tomorrow..

          I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   








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      From: GREG SLAWSON < gregslawson at msn.com >
      To: gathering <gathering at misera.net>
      Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:30:59 AM
      Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

      People are always willing to parrot plattitudes they've learned from anti-communist teachers, parents, etc., w/o really thinking about them. But in the US there is a nightly segment on nbc news about how, in the tough economy, there is an outpouring of people helping each other, doing things for free, giving more to the less fortunate, etc., w/o looking for any praise or payback. And don't forget that we've never lived in a time when poeple in power are prevented form being corrupt, so how can we know if everyone in power will automatically be corrupt?
       


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      From: folk.devil at hotmail.com
      To: gathering at misera.net
      Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:30:35 -0700
      Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

      I find it interesting when some people term humanity as some form of parasite. Do these people include themselves in the analogy, or not? If yes, do they use the idea as some form of condonation for not giving a sh*t?
      There is a trend, particularly in industrial music, to adopt this idea....hell of a way to perpetuate the inert, or do they feel that they are in touch with the zeitgeist?

       


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      From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
      To: gathering at misera.net
      Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:22:44 +1100
      Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

      http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1655415,00.html




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      From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence
      Sent: Tuesday, 17 March 2009 22:31
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      mankind has and continues to rule to the detriment of others . Any leader showing compassion is usually assassinated.Power corrupts and usually those at the top are moulded and coersed by the host of sychophants and other manipulators who have thier own agenda .  No doubt i will be scoffed and jeered at when i say that mankind is incapable of looking after himself and the world will only change for the better when jesus comes to right the wrongs ...remember how they laughed at the people attempting to make flight possible ...i rest my case 
       


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      From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk
      To: gathering at misera.net
      Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:01:15 +0000
      Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word


       and there has to a way to recall leaders when they do try to climb above others...

       
       Like a coup or an asassination? I wish i had your faith, but 99% of the time, those that rise to the top make damn sure they can stay there. You can never stop those that wish to suceed at the expense of others, "feather the nest and fuck the rest" etc. The concept of a council like the Roman senate was supposed to keep things fair and right but ultimately backhanders, coersion and corruption take over, all to satisfy the greedy few, and those Wolves ALWAYS come dressed in Sheeps clothing.
       
      Nah, i think i'l just stick to treating people like i want to be treated myself and hope it eventually rubs off on everyone.
       
      Keep dreaming Jel.
       
      Over and out
       
      Jelski
       


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      From: gregslawson at msn.com
      To: gathering at misera.net
      Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:36:00 -0400
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      That's the key--how to keep people from being top of the pile and ripping others off. The decision-making has to be collectivized and people have to be accountable (the opposite of the US bankers) and there has to a way to recall leaders when they do try to climb above others...
       


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      From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk
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      Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:59:07 +0000
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      (w/communist distribution of goods and services according to need). 
       
      And WHO decides who needs what? There's always someone at the top of the pile. Great in theory, sadly lacking in practice.
       
       Jelski
       


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      From: gregslawson at msn.com
      To: gathering at misera.net
      Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:27:30 -0400
      Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

      Funny, the Progressive Labor Party advocates a future revolutionary society in which we operate without money! (w/communist distribution of goods and services according to need). Maybe Jaz will join!
       


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      From: gasw30 at hotmail.com
      To: gathering at misera.net
      Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:19:35 +0000
      Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

      Presumably Jaz's talk will centre on his upcoming book: 



      From Jaz's entry on the wikipedia site (I don't think it's been mentioned here yet, but apols etc).



      Coleman is writing a book about permaculture, free energy, freedom and freedom-loving individuals. The main thesis is on how to survive without money. The book will be divided into two parts; one part concentrating on the music and other on the ideas behind it.[10] The book is planned to be published in 2009.[11]


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      From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com
      To: gathering at misera.net
      Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:09:36 +0000
      Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

      but bob we may not be able to contain laughter ;D)))
       
      i will ask as well for free,i dont care lol
       
      milindafgrant
       


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      From: bbarathy at btinternet.com
      To: gathering at misera.net
      Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:32:16 +0000
      Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

      If I go up then you're not allowed to snigger behind me! Or blowpipe me in the back with chewed up paper



      boBToo

      www.killingjoke.co.uk

      www.teamkinetic.co.uk

      www.bobtoo.co.uk

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        From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Phillipps Marc
        Sent: 13 March 2009 16:15
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        >part of what keeps us all interested.

        And constantly frustrated 

        I have a crisp £5 note for the first person to ask him about Gems of Power at the London do :o) 

        Marc.




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