[kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

[Brendan Quinn]

That’s not a very Christian thing to say. I should know, I was raised a -
very - devout catholic. It was the first thing I learned, in my blood. I was
going to be a priest. I was so conscientious, I went to church on my own if
I had to, from a young age. Kissed Jesus’s wounds, baptism, communion,
confession
been there done that. So don’t laugh and put me down, I think
you’re missing the point of Christianity if you do. If all you’re about is
challenging and confronting people, arguing with them, enjoying the feeling
of being a martyr for some reason, then you’re not giving an example of
having found peace and friendship, are you? You’re supposed to forgive, turn
the other cheek, love your brother
not denigrate him. 

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, 19 March 2009 21:38
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

 

like the fact that you mentioned the movie witness there is proof that
living by bible teaching works and before people on here bleat about no car
or i-pods it's a funny thing that humans don't miss what they never had the
human spirit can transcend the aquisition of material things MINOG keep the
debate going guys a lot of you have risen in my estimation except brendan
lol 

 

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From: gregslawson at msn.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:06:28 -0400
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

Why wouldn't they be able to? (See the movie "Witness" if you really think
people can't cooperate). You always get a few who don't fit in with anyone
else, but as a comrade once said "for the people who want to live in the
woods all by themselves, we can figure out something for them too".
 

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 09:53:00 -0400
From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

And what if one can't work cooperatively?

At 09:54 PM 3/17/2009, GREG SLAWSON wrote:



I agree Brenden, and for 2 reasons:
1. Humans have thing called brains and can control their own behavior to an
extent and
2. Working cooperatively is the best way to go!
Greg
 

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From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:44:44 +1100
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

I read the other day that just over 50% of Americans donate time to
volunteer causes, an average of 4.2 hours a week (sounds a little high to me
but who knows
most countries are fucked up enough to need all the help they
can get). So the idea that ‘humans are inherently selfish,’ that the corrupt
will always end up in power
doesn’t hold any water for me. In fact no other
species really comes close to us in terms of our altruism and relationships.

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>
mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of GREG SLAWSON
Sent: Wednesday, 18 March 2009 03:31
To: gathering
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

 

People are always willing to parrot plattitudes they've learned from
anti-communist teachers, parents, etc., w/o really thinking about them. But
in the US there is a nightly segment on nbc news about how, in the tough
economy, there is an outpouring of people helping each other, doing things
for free, giving more to the less fortunate, etc., w/o looking for any
praise or payback. And don't forget that we've never lived in a time when
poeple in power are prevented form being corrupt, so how can we know if
everyone in power will automatically be corrupt?
 

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From: folk.devil at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:30:35 -0700
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

I find it interesting when some people term humanity as some form of
parasite. Do these people include themselves in the analogy, or not? If yes,
do they use the idea as some form of condonation for not giving a sh*t?
There is a trend, particularly in industrial music, to adopt this
idea....hell of a way to perpetuate the inert, or do they feel that they are
in touch with the zeitgeist?

 

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From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:22:44 +1100
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1655415,00.html

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>
mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, 17 March 2009 22:31
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

 

mankind has and continues to rule to the detriment of others . Any leader
showing compassion is usually assassinated.Power corrupts and usually those
at the top are moulded and coersed by the host of sychophants and other
manipulators who have thier own agenda .  No doubt i will be scoffed and
jeered at when i say that mankind is incapable of looking after himself and
the world will only change for the better when jesus comes to right the
wrongs ...remember how they laughed at the people attempting to make flight
possible ...i rest my case 
 

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From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:01:15 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word


 and there has to a way to recall leaders when they do try to climb above
others...

 
 Like a coup or an asassination? I wish i had your faith, but 99% of the
time, those that rise to the top make damn sure they can stay there. You can
never stop those that wish to suceed at the expense of others, "feather the
nest and fuck the rest" etc. The concept of a council like the Roman senate
was supposed to keep things fair and right but ultimately backhanders,
coersion and corruption take over, all to satisfy the greedy few, and those
Wolves ALWAYS come dressed in Sheeps clothing.
 
Nah, i think i'l just stick to treating people like i want to be treated
myself and hope it eventually rubs off on everyone.
 
Keep dreaming Jel.
 
Over and out
 
Jelski
 

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From: gregslawson at msn.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:36:00 -0400
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

That's the key--how to keep people from being top of the pile and ripping
others off. The decision-making has to be collectivized and people have to
be accountable (the opposite of the US bankers) and there has to a way to
recall leaders when they do try to climb above others...
 

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From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:59:07 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

(w/communist distribution of goods and services according to need). 
 
And WHO decides who needs what? There's always someone at the top of the
pile. Great in theory, sadly lacking in practice.
 
 Jelski
 

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From: gregslawson at msn.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:27:30 -0400
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

Funny, the Progressive Labor Party advocates a future revolutionary society
in which we operate without money! (w/communist distribution of goods and
services according to need). Maybe Jaz will join!
 

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From: gasw30 at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:19:35 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

Presumably Jaz's talk will centre on his upcoming book: 

 


>From Jaz's entry on the wikipedia site (I don't think it's been mentioned

here yet, but apols etc).

 

Coleman is writing a book about permaculture, free energy, freedom and
freedom-loving individuals. The main thesis is on how to survive without
money. The book will be divided into two parts; one part concentrating on
the music and other on the ideas behind it.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaz_Coleman#cite_note-9> [10] The book is
planned to be published in 2009.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaz_Coleman#cite_note-10> [11]

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From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:09:36 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

but bob we may not be able to contain laughter ;D)))
 
i will ask as well for free,i dont care lol
 
milindafgrant
 

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From: bbarathy at btinternet.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:32:16 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

If I go up then you're not allowed to snigger behind me! Or blowpipe me in
the back with chewed up paper

 

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To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word


>part of what keeps us all interested.


And constantly frustrated 

I have a crisp £5 note for the first person to ask him about Gems of Power
at the London do :o) 

Marc.

 

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