[kj] Darren Peace

[The Exorcist]

I agree 100 percent Oliver.

When it reaches a point of zealotry, or blatant hostility towards 
others, be it racism, sexism, homophobia etc...
the individuals do not earn or deserve the right to respect or acknowledgement.

I have yet to find a group that I can honestly say I "belong" to. 
Though my personality and opinions tend to lean
more right of center and individual based I don't follow any party 
line. Most of my clients are left of center and
some quite far. We both know where we stand and have had some 
interesting conversations. Though we
usually don't end up agreeing, my inter-personal relationship with 
them has never been affected.

I'm willing to go after either side regarding ideas that I think are 
incorrect, however, it truly bothers me when people
(not pointing at anyone in particular) bash, bash, bash the "other 
side" yet are silent sheep when it comes to
their own party. I'm more re-active than pro-active as I don't feel 
the need to impose my views and wills on others
or shout it out in the streets. But I will feel the need to point out 
hypocrisy on occasion.

(If someone says, "Hey, I've never seen you go after the right" It's 
simply because I won't bring up these conversations in
general. But once politicking starts flying in a one way direction I 
think it is only fair to represent a point of view from the other
side, or from people who might not agree with you on that particular point.)

I'd just like to reiterate that regardless of disagreements I hope 
that there is no ill will towards one another (re: any of the gatherers). :)

Throwing a jab or jive here and there is absolutely fine and I enjoy 
it, I just hope that it doesn't get to personal
where it just becomes some foul ugly beast.

Best,
Yos

At 04:23 PM 3/23/2009, B. Oliver Sheppard wrote:

>Sorry, I get it now.

>

>Yeah, I think you are right.

>

>BUT!: There is also a point where someone's politics get so 

>obtrusively obnoxious to you, that it does color how you feel about 

>their personality.

>

>Keep in mind I live in Texas, was raised in the Dallas area, and 

>grew up around a lot of very backwards conservatives. It colored 

>their personalities to such a degree that it made it hard to like 

>them. The Dead Kennedys sucked, Subhumans sucked, Crass sucked, all 

>kind of actually decent music sucked because they were pansy leftist 

>wankers. I mean, I have to relate to someone somehow. When someone 

>comes at me from this really alien cultural world where the USA 

>kicks ass and can do no wrong, and if you are gay you might as well 

>get the death penalty, etc., etc., it is hard to say, "Oh wel, that 

>is just their politics, but otherwise I am sure they are decent!"

>

>-Oliver

>

>

>The Exorcist wrote:

>>That's exactly what I wrote:

>>"One last thing, if you'd learn to disassociate politics from 

>>individuals you'd be surprised

>>at how many decent people are out there."

>>

>>I basically state that even if you disagree with someone 

>>politically it doesn't mean you have to hate/despise them.

>>And once you past the politics of the individual, you'd be 

>>surprised how amicable they may turn out to be. :)

>

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