From stronkle at hotmail.co.uk Fri May 1 03:00:50 2009 From: stronkle at hotmail.co.uk (Carlos Fandango) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 07:00:50 +0000 Subject: [kj] Also: Isle of Wight update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I used to know Tim Burgess before he joined the Charlatans, back in the day he was a big Killing Joke fan, he was in a band with a couple of my mates "the Electric Crayons" & they used to do a cover of Primitive ! From: kjlist at live.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:43:21 -0500 Subject: [kj] Also: Isle of Wight update press release is here: http://www.efestivals.co.uk/news/09/090429h.shtml nice blurb about Burgess' first KJ show. From: kjlist at live.com To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Isle of Wight update Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:34:18 -0500 For those who care, KJ have now been formally confirmed for the Isle of Wight Festival, per the web site: http://www.isleofwightfestival.com/big-top.aspx In the tent as part of the Tim Burgess-curated Sunday night with Charlatans, Horrors and the Black Lips, et. al. Sorry to interrupt. You may resume the swine flu discussion and gay jokes. Rediscover Hotmail?: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry Check it out. Rediscover Hotmail?: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. Check it out. _________________________________________________________________ Beyond Hotmail ? see what else you can do with Windows Live. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665375/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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However, I think he now looks more like a Sandworm. http://images.mmosite.com/photo/2007/11/01/sandwormX27261u476.jpg Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: 01 May 2009 00:31 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (so OT) Dutch Royals Minus the grostesque floating apparatus. ; ) k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Brendan Quinn To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [kj] (so OT) Dutch Royals Boy George is looking more like Baron Harkonnen every day. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGX2xSjND_0 _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: Friday, 1 May 2009 05:04 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] (so OT) Dutch Royals That's absolutely appalling. Here's some light relief: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2403844.ece Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: 30 April 2009 18:34 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: [kj] (so OT) Dutch Royals Anyone else see this: Man charged in attempted attack on Dutch royals updated 16 minutes ago Man charged in attempted attack on Dutch royals ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.9/2087 - Release Date: 04/29/09 18:03:00 _____ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering No virus found in this incoming message. 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I tend to > agree with you, and have stronger opinions about the Fed and the US Govt, > regulation etc, but where I work I keep all of that to myself. Pragmatism > vs idealism I suppose. > > If you watch that video you'll see that he's basically a realist about the > extent to which society does what needs to be done (i.e. only to a limited > extent, and sometimes not at all), due to realpolitik. He's clear on that > point. He also tries to avoid some of the more political / social > commentary, being an economist. (And yeah, I personally agree that you > can't totally divorce the economic from the social / political...) > > Politically you'd probably get more out of Noam Chomsky, or Dean Baker and > the guys at www.alternet.org or www.truthout.org. > > In terms of Krugman being behind the govt / taxpayer support of financial > institutions, he's a realist there as well. Pragmatically how much of a > mess would it be for the govt to nationalise and split up all of these > large institutions in one hit...the economic fallout would be huge. Long > term I think it's what needs to be done, they can't be allowed to get 'too > big to fail' ever again. But the real pain from the economic fallout in > the whole system falling over and being built up again, is beyond most > incumbent politicians', and most people's, will... > > > > > I thought he was good on the war and torture (which are subjects now > > forgotten in the haze of a mystery flu). But, as an economist he supports > > the continuance and acceleration of Bush's insanity of propping up > > malinvestments and failed performance with huge spending. This is the > > Keynesian madness that got us to the point of collapse, and now with the > > new puppet in the White House is leading to outright fascism. The Federal > > Reserve designed this disaster, why should we give them more power? > > > > Didn't mean to piss on anyone's parade, I didn't get much sleep. > > > > > > > >> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 16:20:12 +1000 > >> From: "Brendan Quinn" > >> Subject: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman on the > >> economic crisis > >> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'" > >> > >> Message-ID: <2A08447174E44AB0AD0433DBCDBED5F9 at HeadHigh> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >> > >> Excellent analysis / 101 on the GFC - Global Financial Crisis - by Paul > >> Krugman. > >> > >> > >> > >> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1924996584154381146 > >> >> 8qAPEq6TpCw&q=economic+crisi> > >> &ei=VMD4ScTGN5X8qAPEq6TpCw&q=economic+crisi > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering at misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____ Windows Live Messenger just got better. 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At least i know for sure that the "extra codecs" pack for smplayer supports both WMA and WMV version 9. b From stephen.l at live.com Fri May 1 04:24:12 2009 From: stephen.l at live.com (Stephen Lawrence) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 08:24:12 +0000 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo> <013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo> <21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh> Message-ID: thanks bo to be honest i don't know which version i have ..i'm a bit wary of downloads and installations ..i was once told that programs can''fight '' with each other whether that is true i don;t know i have vlc and real player and win amp but prefer media player for the database > Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 08:57:29 +0100 > From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Stephen Lawrence wrote: > > > thanks brendan i think i might have problem with the codec as i can't play > > wma files ....actually i deleted it when jo said she couldn't help me > > What version of Media Player are you using? 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URL: From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net Fri May 1 05:11:57 2009 From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 04:11:57 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman onthe economic crisis In-Reply-To: <5AE1ED4BB62243C59E45FC0E2AAABA6B@HeadHigh> References: <35994.203.210.68.145.1241110562.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <5AE1ED4BB62243C59E45FC0E2AAABA6B@HeadHigh> Message-ID: <49FABCDD.4040504@sbcglobal.net> Brendan, you would probably like this. James K. Galbraith debating tea-bagger leader Dick Armey, just came out today (May 1, 2009): Causes of the Crisis James K. Galbraith | May 01, 2009 | Commentary Editor?s note: These remarks were delivered to a meeting of the Texas Lyceum in Austin on April 3, at a debate between University of Texas professor James Galbraith, an Observer contributing writer, and former Majority Leader Richard Armey, chief instigator of the recent Astroturf ?tea party" protests. Armey had begun his remarks by noting that his rule in life was ?never trust anyone from Austin or Boston,? and proceeded to declare his allegiance to the ?Austrian School? of economics, a libertarian view that regards public intervention in private markets as socialism. GALBRAITH: It is of course a pleasure to be with you today. I was born in Boston, and I am proud of it. And I have lived 24 years in Austin?and I?m proud of that. Leader Armey spoke to you of his admiration for Austrian economics. I can?t resist telling you that when the Vienna Economics Institute celebrated its centennial, many years ago, they invited, as their keynote speaker, my father [John Kenneth Galbraith]. The leading economists of the Austrian school?including von Hayek and von Haberler?returned for the occasion. And so my father took a moment to reflect on the economic triumphs of the Austrian Republic since the war, which, he said, ?would not have been possible without the contribution of these men.? They nodded?briefly?until it dawned on them what he meant. They?d all left the country in the 1930s. My own economics is American: genus Institutionalist; species: Galbraithian. This is a panel on the crisis. Mr. Moderator, you ask what is the root cause? My reply is in three parts. First, an idea. The idea that capitalism, for all its considerable virtues, is inherently self-stabilizing, that government and private business are adversaries rather than partners; the idea that freedom without responsibility is a viable business principle; the idea that regulation, in financial matters especially, can be dispensed with. We tried it, and we see the result. Second, a person. It would not be right to blame any single person for these events, but if I had to choose one to name it would be a Texan, our own distinguished former Senator Phil Gramm. I?d cite specifically the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act?the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act?in 1999, after which it took less than a decade to reproduce all the pathologies that Glass-Steagall had been enacted to deal with in 1933. [...] Rest at: http://www.texasobserver.org/article.php?aid=3031 From bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com Fri May 1 05:13:49 2009 From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 10:13:49 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo> <013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo> <21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh> Message-ID: On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Stephen Lawrence wrote: > thanks bo > ? to be honest i don't know which version i have ..i'm a bit wary of > downloads and installations ..i was once told that programs can''fight '' > with each other whether that is true i don;t know > ? i have vlc and real player and win amp but prefer media player for the > database Both and, programs cannot as such interfere with eachother, but codecs and dll's can and will at every given chance. This is why i recommended smplayer and/or vlc, since they both use their own sets of codecs instead of using (and cluttering) the standard DirectShow set that Windows Media Player and virtually every other media player use. To find the version of nearly any Windows program, click "Help" and then "About". Also, if you already have vlc, you should be able to play WMA and WMV with it. Just make sure you have the latest version from www.videolan.org and you're all set. b From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Fri May 1 05:45:00 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 21:45:00 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo> <013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo> <21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh> Message-ID: <27629.203.210.68.145.1241171100.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Codecs always give me a headache...I use VLC media player generally, find it a lot less annoying than M$'s player. It plays flv files and other different formats that Windows Media Player won't. > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Stephen Lawrence > wrote: > >> thanks brendan i think i might have problem with the codec as i can't >> play >> wma files ....actually i deleted it when jo said she??couldn't help me > > What version of Media Player are you using? In the old days, Microsoft > distributed the codecs separately, but now those redistribution packs > are (apparently) only available to developers. However, they CLAIM > that if you upgrade Media Player, you get the latest codec bundle as > well: > > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/download/AllDownloads.aspx > > Alternatively, if you feel adventurous you could grab either smplayer > (my personal fave) or vlc (equally good). At least i know for sure > that the "extra codecs" pack for smplayer supports both WMA and WMV > version 9. > > > b > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Fri May 1 05:55:33 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 21:55:33 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo> <013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo> <21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh> Message-ID: <37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Multimedia programs do in a sense fight each other, insofar as the file associations contention. Windows keeps a list of which programs to use to open particular file types...so by default when you double-click that kind of file, Windows will know what to do with it (open .doc files with M$ Word for example...). Many multimedia apps ask you when you install them if you want to associate the application with ALL multimedia types (that it is compatible with)...such as mp3 / mp4, avi, wmv, flac, playing DVDs etc etc (there's loads of formats) and it's easy to overlook this setting when zipping through the install screens. I recently did a full install of the software that came with my DVD burner and it included a flaming media player (Nero), on top of all the other ones I have...as if I needed another one FFS... Can become a bit messy after a while as well, once you have several applications on your PC that aim to do the same thing, some of which will attempt to load automatically when your PC starts, automatically update, and many of which share core Windows system files & settings(dlls etc). Good rule of thumb is to pick a decent one that covers most bases and ignore the others. You probably don't need Quicktime on a Windows PC for example, avi files can be opened in VLC or Win Media Player. (And good luck if you're brave enough to use iTunes - we hates it precious ;p) If you want to change the file associations let me know, or Google it if you want, there's multiple ways to do it, pretty standard on Windows from 2000 on. Or you can simply re-install the player you want to use and let it reclaim the associations. The less programs you have on Windows the quicker it goes and less messy it gets, generally. > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Stephen Lawrence > wrote: > >> thanks bo >> ?? to be honest i don't know which version i have ..i'm a bit wary of >> downloads and installations ..i was once told that programs can''fight >> '' >> with each other whether that is true i don;t know >> ?? i have vlc and real player and win amp but prefer media player for >> the >> database > > Both and, programs cannot as such interfere with eachother, but codecs > and dll's can and will at every given chance. This is why i > recommended smplayer and/or vlc, since they both use their own sets of > codecs instead of using (and cluttering) the standard DirectShow set > that Windows Media Player and virtually every other media player use. > > To find the version of nearly any Windows program, click "Help" and > then "About". > > Also, if you already have vlc, you should be able to play WMA and WMV > with it. Just make sure you have the latest version from > www.videolan.org and you're all set. > > > b > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Fri May 1 06:00:41 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 22:00:41 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman onthe economic crisis In-Reply-To: <49FABCDD.4040504@sbcglobal.net> References: <35994.203.210.68.145.1241110562.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <5AE1ED4BB62243C59E45FC0E2AAABA6B@HeadHigh> <49FABCDD.4040504@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <42154.203.210.68.145.1241172041.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Is it just me, or does anyone else get a mental impression of insecure older white guys paying younger males to draps their nutpurse over their face when they hear the term tea-bagging...? Please tell me it's not just me, my therapist's To Do list is already a yard long ;) > Brendan, you would probably like this. James K. Galbraith debating > tea-bagger leader Dick Armey, just came out today (May 1, 2009): > > > Causes of the Crisis > James K. Galbraith | May 01, 2009 | Commentary > > Editor?s note: These remarks were delivered to a meeting of the Texas > Lyceum in Austin on April 3, at a debate between University of Texas > professor James Galbraith, an Observer contributing writer, and former > Majority Leader Richard Armey, chief instigator of the recent Astroturf > ?tea party" protests. Armey had begun his remarks by noting that his > rule in life was ?never trust anyone from Austin or Boston,? and > proceeded to declare his allegiance to the ?Austrian School? of > economics, a libertarian view that regards public intervention in > private markets as socialism. > > GALBRAITH: > > It is of course a pleasure to be with you today. I was born in Boston, > and I am proud of it. And I have lived 24 years in Austin?and I?m proud > of that. > > Leader Armey spoke to you of his admiration for Austrian economics. I > can?t resist telling you that when the Vienna Economics Institute > celebrated its centennial, many years ago, they invited, as their > keynote speaker, my father [John Kenneth Galbraith]. The leading > economists of the Austrian school?including von Hayek and von > Haberler?returned for the occasion. And so my father took a moment to > reflect on the economic triumphs of the Austrian Republic since the war, > which, he said, ?would not have been possible without the contribution > of these men.? They nodded?briefly?until it dawned on them what he > meant. They?d all left the country in the 1930s. > > My own economics is American: genus Institutionalist; species: > Galbraithian. > > This is a panel on the crisis. Mr. Moderator, you ask what is the root > cause? My reply is in three parts. > > First, an idea. The idea that capitalism, for all its considerable > virtues, is inherently self-stabilizing, that government and private > business are adversaries rather than partners; the idea that freedom > without responsibility is a viable business principle; the idea that > regulation, in financial matters especially, can be dispensed with. We > tried it, and we see the result. > > Second, a person. It would not be right to blame any single person for > these events, but if I had to choose one to name it would be a Texan, > our own distinguished former Senator Phil Gramm. I?d cite specifically > the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act?the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act?in 1999, > after which it took less than a decade to reproduce all the pathologies > that Glass-Steagall had been enacted to deal with in 1933. > > [...] > > Rest at: http://www.texasobserver.org/article.php?aid=3031 > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Fri May 1 06:06:41 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 22:06:41 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman onthe economic crisis In-Reply-To: <49FABCDD.4040504@sbcglobal.net> References: <35994.203.210.68.145.1241110562.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <5AE1ED4BB62243C59E45FC0E2AAABA6B@HeadHigh> <49FABCDD.4040504@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <47746.203.210.68.145.1241172401.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> "Armey had begun his remarks by noting that his rule in life was ?never trust anyone from Austin or Boston,? FFS...steers and queers...which one are you boy?! And the tea bagging leader is called Dick Armey? Holy shit, I'd forgotten that. Hey Olly check out the Texas reference in this, one of my favourites: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8gp9RcToi8 > Brendan, you would probably like this. James K. Galbraith debating > tea-bagger leader Dick Armey, just came out today (May 1, 2009): > > > Causes of the Crisis > James K. Galbraith | May 01, 2009 | Commentary > > Editor?s note: These remarks were delivered to a meeting of the Texas > Lyceum in Austin on April 3, at a debate between University of Texas > professor James Galbraith, an Observer contributing writer, and former > Majority Leader Richard Armey, chief instigator of the recent Astroturf > ?tea party" protests. Armey had begun his remarks by noting that his > rule in life was ?never trust anyone from Austin or Boston,? and > proceeded to declare his allegiance to the ?Austrian School? of > economics, a libertarian view that regards public intervention in > private markets as socialism. > > GALBRAITH: > > It is of course a pleasure to be with you today. I was born in Boston, > and I am proud of it. And I have lived 24 years in Austin?and I?m proud > of that. > > Leader Armey spoke to you of his admiration for Austrian economics. I > can?t resist telling you that when the Vienna Economics Institute > celebrated its centennial, many years ago, they invited, as their > keynote speaker, my father [John Kenneth Galbraith]. The leading > economists of the Austrian school?including von Hayek and von > Haberler?returned for the occasion. And so my father took a moment to > reflect on the economic triumphs of the Austrian Republic since the war, > which, he said, ?would not have been possible without the contribution > of these men.? They nodded?briefly?until it dawned on them what he > meant. They?d all left the country in the 1930s. > > My own economics is American: genus Institutionalist; species: > Galbraithian. > > This is a panel on the crisis. Mr. Moderator, you ask what is the root > cause? My reply is in three parts. > > First, an idea. The idea that capitalism, for all its considerable > virtues, is inherently self-stabilizing, that government and private > business are adversaries rather than partners; the idea that freedom > without responsibility is a viable business principle; the idea that > regulation, in financial matters especially, can be dispensed with. We > tried it, and we see the result. > > Second, a person. It would not be right to blame any single person for > these events, but if I had to choose one to name it would be a Texan, > our own distinguished former Senator Phil Gramm. I?d cite specifically > the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act?the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act?in 1999, > after which it took less than a decade to reproduce all the pathologies > that Glass-Steagall had been enacted to deal with in 1933. > > [...] > > Rest at: http://www.texasobserver.org/article.php?aid=3031 > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com Fri May 1 06:07:07 2009 From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 11:07:07 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <27629.203.210.68.145.1241171100.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo> <013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo> <21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh> <27629.203.210.68.145.1241171100.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Brendan wrote: > Codecs always give me a headache...I use VLC media player generally, find > it a lot less annoying than M$'s player. It plays flv files and other > different formats that Windows Media Player won't. I stick to smplayer for two reasons. The major one is that it has a zillion features for rendering and timing subtitles, which i depend on, since most movies i watch are in languages i don't understand. The minor one is that the UI for VLC is terrible (okay, it got better recently, but still). > If you want to change the file associations let me know, or Google it if > you want, there's multiple ways to do it, pretty standard on Windows from > 2000 on. Or you can simply re-install the player you want to use and let > it reclaim the associations. In the worst case, right click and choose "open with". b From stephen.l at live.com Fri May 1 06:08:22 2009 From: stephen.l at live.com (Stephen Lawrence) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 10:08:22 +0000 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo> <013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo> <21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh> Message-ID: thanks for the advice bo ..i'm not very tech minded but i'll give it a go > Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 10:13:49 +0100 > From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Stephen Lawrence wrote: > > > thanks bo > > to be honest i don't know which version i have ..i'm a bit wary of > > downloads and installations ..i was once told that programs can''fight '' > > with each other whether that is true i don;t know > > i have vlc and real player and win amp but prefer media player for the > > database > > Both and, programs cannot as such interfere with eachother, but codecs > and dll's can and will at every given chance. This is why i > recommended smplayer and/or vlc, since they both use their own sets of > codecs instead of using (and cluttering) the standard DirectShow set > that Windows Media Player and virtually every other media player use. > > To find the version of nearly any Windows program, click "Help" and > then "About". > > Also, if you already have vlc, you should be able to play WMA and WMV > with it. Just make sure you have the latest version from > www.videolan.org and you're all set. > > > b > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos ? Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephen.l at live.com Fri May 1 06:12:24 2009 From: stephen.l at live.com (Stephen Lawrence) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 10:12:24 +0000 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo> <013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo> <21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh> <37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: you made me laugh about i-tunes ....yeah i hate it also but have to use it to put vinyl and tape into my computer ...i hate the way it duplicates everything meaning i have to delete loads > Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 21:55:33 +1200 > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > > Multimedia programs do in a sense fight each other, insofar as the file > associations contention. Windows keeps a list of which programs to use to > open particular file types...so by default when you double-click that kind > of file, Windows will know what to do with it (open .doc files with M$ > Word for example...). > > Many multimedia apps ask you when you install them if you want to > associate the application with ALL multimedia types (that it is compatible > with)...such as mp3 / mp4, avi, wmv, flac, playing DVDs etc etc (there's > loads of formats) and it's easy to overlook this setting when zipping > through the install screens. I recently did a full install of the software > that came with my DVD burner and it included a flaming media player > (Nero), on top of all the other ones I have...as if I needed another one > FFS... > > Can become a bit messy after a while as well, once you have several > applications on your PC that aim to do the same thing, some of which will > attempt to load automatically when your PC starts, automatically update, > and many of which share core Windows system files & settings(dlls etc). > > Good rule of thumb is to pick a decent one that covers most bases and > ignore the others. You probably don't need Quicktime on a Windows PC for > example, avi files can be opened in VLC or Win Media Player. (And good > luck if you're brave enough to use iTunes - we hates it precious ;p) > > If you want to change the file associations let me know, or Google it if > you want, there's multiple ways to do it, pretty standard on Windows from > 2000 on. Or you can simply re-install the player you want to use and let > it reclaim the associations. > > The less programs you have on Windows the quicker it goes and less messy > it gets, generally. > > > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Stephen Lawrence > > wrote: > > > >> thanks bo > >> ? to be honest i don't know which version i have ..i'm a bit wary of > >> downloads and installations ..i was once told that programs can''fight > >> '' > >> with each other whether that is true i don;t know > >> ? i have vlc and real player and win amp but prefer media player for > >> the > >> database > > > > Both and, programs cannot as such interfere with eachother, but codecs > > and dll's can and will at every given chance. This is why i > > recommended smplayer and/or vlc, since they both use their own sets of > > codecs instead of using (and cluttering) the standard DirectShow set > > that Windows Media Player and virtually every other media player use. > > > > To find the version of nearly any Windows program, click "Help" and > > then "About". > > > > Also, if you already have vlc, you should be able to play WMA and WMV > > with it. Just make sure you have the latest version from > > www.videolan.org and you're all set. > > > > > > b > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering at misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place ? 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It's been a running joke on the left, to make fun of conservatives. :) Rachel Maddow even did a segment on the term and the tea-baggers, on her show: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB22gw09c6U Also, some anti-tea bagger people showed up at their rallies to further the joke: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/wolfbrigade/teabagged.jpg <-- picture of man dangling tea bag into his mouth -Oliver Brendan wrote: > Is it just me, or does anyone else get a mental impression of insecure > older white guys paying younger males to draps their nutpurse over their > face when they hear the term tea-bagging...? > > Please tell me it's not just me, my therapist's To Do list is already a > yard long ;) > From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Fri May 1 06:37:37 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 22:37:37 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo> <013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo> <21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh> <37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <8978.203.210.68.145.1241174257.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> That duplicating media thing just struck me as the most arrogant thing ever from a piece of software, as the default option too! Unbelievable. > > you made me laugh about i-tunes ....yeah i hate it also but have to use it > to put vinyl and tape into my computer ...i hate the way it duplicates > everything meaning i have to delete loads > >> Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 21:55:33 +1200 >> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz >> To: gathering at misera.net >> Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead >> >> Multimedia programs do in a sense fight each other, insofar as the file >> associations contention. Windows keeps a list of which programs to use >> to >> open particular file types...so by default when you double-click that >> kind >> of file, Windows will know what to do with it (open .doc files with M$ >> Word for example...). >> >> Many multimedia apps ask you when you install them if you want to >> associate the application with ALL multimedia types (that it is >> compatible >> with)...such as mp3 / mp4, avi, wmv, flac, playing DVDs etc etc (there's >> loads of formats) and it's easy to overlook this setting when zipping >> through the install screens. I recently did a full install of the >> software >> that came with my DVD burner and it included a flaming media player >> (Nero), on top of all the other ones I have...as if I needed another one >> FFS... >> >> Can become a bit messy after a while as well, once you have several >> applications on your PC that aim to do the same thing, some of which >> will >> attempt to load automatically when your PC starts, automatically update, >> and many of which share core Windows system files & settings(dlls etc). >> >> Good rule of thumb is to pick a decent one that covers most bases and >> ignore the others. You probably don't need Quicktime on a Windows PC for >> example, avi files can be opened in VLC or Win Media Player. (And good >> luck if you're brave enough to use iTunes - we hates it precious ;p) >> >> If you want to change the file associations let me know, or Google it if >> you want, there's multiple ways to do it, pretty standard on Windows >> from >> 2000 on. Or you can simply re-install the player you want to use and let >> it reclaim the associations. >> >> The less programs you have on Windows the quicker it goes and less messy >> it gets, generally. >> >> > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Stephen Lawrence >> > wrote: >> > >> >> thanks bo >> >> ? to be honest i don't know which version i have ..i'm a bit wary of >> >> downloads and installations ..i was once told that programs >> can''fight >> >> '' >> >> with each other whether that is true i don;t know >> >> ? i have vlc and real player and win amp but prefer media player for >> >> the >> >> database >> > >> > Both and, programs cannot as such interfere with eachother, but codecs >> > and dll's can and will at every given chance. This is why i >> > recommended smplayer and/or vlc, since they both use their own sets of >> > codecs instead of using (and cluttering) the standard DirectShow set >> > that Windows Media Player and virtually every other media player use. >> > >> > To find the version of nearly any Windows program, click "Help" and >> > then "About". >> > >> > Also, if you already have vlc, you should be able to play WMA and WMV >> > with it. Just make sure you have the latest version from >> > www.videolan.org and you're all set. >> > >> > >> > b >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Gathering mailing list >> > Gathering at misera.net >> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _________________________________________________________________ > View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place ? Learn more! > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/137984870/direct/01/_______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From dpeace at bigfoot.com Fri May 1 06:38:07 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 11:38:07 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo> <013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo> <21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh> <37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com> Edit > Preferences > Advanced > Tick Keep iTunes Music Folder Organised Untick Copy files to iTunes Music Folder if you don?t want duplicates. I have the Copy Files option ticked, so everything is copied to my central library, and I can then manually delete the original file, which could be anywhere on my computer. Oh, and Brendan? Nero? Hope there?s something in that bloatware that you really, really need. I gave up on it at version 5. Otherwise, the free ImgBurn (http://www.imgburn.com/ ) does pretty much everything I need. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence Sent: 01 May 2009 11:12 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead you made me laugh about i-tunes ....yeah i hate it also but have to use it to put vinyl and tape into my computer ...i hate the way it duplicates everything meaning i have to delete loads > Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 21:55:33 +1200 > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > > Multimedia programs do in a sense fight each other, insofar as the file > associations contention. Windows keeps a list of which programs to use to > open particular file types...so by default when you double-click that kind > of file, Windows will know what to do with it (open .doc files with M$ > Word for example...). > > Many multimedia apps ask you when you install them if you want to > associate the application with ALL multimedia types (that it is compatible > with)...such as mp3 / mp4, avi, wmv, flac, playing DVDs etc etc (there's > loads of formats) and it's easy to overlook this setting when zipping > through the install screens. I recently did a full install of the software > that came with my DVD burner and it included a flaming media player > (Nero), on top of all the other ones I have...as if I needed another one > FFS... > > Can become a bit messy after a while as well, once you have several > applications on your PC that aim to do the same thing, some of which will > attempt to load automatically when your PC starts, automatically update, > and many of which share core Windows system files & settings(dlls etc). > > Good rule of thumb is to pick a decent one that covers most bases and > ignore the others. You probably don't need Quicktime on a Windows PC for > example, avi files can be opened in VLC or Win Media Player. (And good > luck if you're brave enough to use iTunes - we hates it precious ;p) > > If you want to change the file associations let me know, or Google it if > you want, there's multiple ways to do it, pretty standard on Windows from > 2000 on. Or you can simply re-install the player you want to use and let > it reclaim the associations. > > The less programs you have on Windows the quicker it goes and less messy > it gets, generally. > > > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Stephen Lawrence > > wrote: > > > >> thanks bo > >> ? to be honest i don't know which version i have ..i'm a bit wary of > >> downloads and installations ..i was once told that programs can''fight > >> '' > >> with each other whether that is true i don;t know > >> ? i have vlc and real player and win amp but prefer media player for > >> the > >> database > > > > Both and, programs cannot as such interfere with eachother, but codecs > > and dll's can and will at every given chance. This is why i > > recommended smplayer and/or vlc, since they both use their own sets of > > codecs instead of using (and cluttering) the standard DirectShow set > > that Windows Media Player and virtually every other media player use. > > > > To find the version of nearly any Windows program, click "Help" and > > then "About". > > > > Also, if you already have vlc, you should be able to play WMA and WMV > > with it. Just make sure you have the latest version from > > www.videolan.org and you're all set. > > > > > > b > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering at misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____ Windows Live Messenger just got better. Find out more! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Fri May 1 06:52:00 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 22:52:00 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman onthe economic crisis In-Reply-To: <49FACB05.6020401@sbcglobal.net> References: <35994.203.210.68.145.1241110562.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <5AE1ED4BB62243C59E45FC0E2AAABA6B@HeadHigh> <49FABCDD.4040504@sbcglobal.net> <42154.203.210.68.145.1241172041.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <49FACB05.6020401@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <21119.203.210.68.145.1241175120.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> LOL. It's quite a perverse reaction from the conservatives. When you think about it, they must really be on the ropes right now...must be culture shock for them to go from a position of complete power under Bush to complete impotence now... > No, it's not just you. It's been a running joke on the left, to make fun > of conservatives. :) > > Rachel Maddow even did a segment on the term and the tea-baggers, on her > show: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB22gw09c6U > > > > Also, some anti-tea bagger people showed up at their rallies to further > the joke: > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/wolfbrigade/teabagged.jpg <-- > picture of man dangling tea bag into his mouth > > -Oliver > > Brendan wrote: >> Is it just me, or does anyone else get a mental impression of insecure >> older white guys paying younger males to draps their nutpurse over their >> face when they hear the term tea-bagging...? >> >> Please tell me it's not just me, my therapist's To Do list is already a >> yard long ;) >> > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Fri May 1 07:06:58 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 23:06:58 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com> References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo> <013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo> <21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh> <37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com> Message-ID: <34486.203.210.68.145.1241176018.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Yeah I know you can do it, I found that setting immediately and enabled it, just couldn't believe it started doing it automatically, and one of the reasons it pi$$ed me off is that I'd just spent weeks renaming and retagging my mp3 files. WEEKS. My OCD wouldn't sit still until I had everything in my particular format, band name space hyphen space year space hyphen space album name space hypen space track number space hyphen space etc. LOL. Also generally using the thing - my reaction was, to use a current geek meme - DO NOT WANT, or FAIL...and performance was pretty $hite too...had a single core CPU back then. Nup. Hated it. I also disliked it because of the iPod hype, I am player agnostic, no way do I want to be tied in to a fucking Applie application. So typical of that company, try to lock down the customers' choice and over-price with marketing hype and branding. Ugh. (And no it's not an anti-Apple pro-M$ rant, it's merely an anti-Apple rant...). There was some other drama about not being able to easily share your files with friends' PCs etc. Re Nero...I'm lazy with multimedia stuff, more of a gamer / hardware fan, never took the time to investigate that. Would be nice to do away with Nero actually, I have a rebuild coming up in a month or so so I wll do it then. I just assumed it was a good idea to use the software that came with the drive, and Nero has always been easy to use. Cheers. > Edit > Preferences > Advanced > > > > > Tick Keep iTunes Music Folder Organised > > Untick Copy files to iTunes Music Folder if you don?t want duplicates. > > > > I have the Copy Files option ticked, so everything is copied to my central > library, and I can then manually delete the original file, which could be > anywhere on my computer. > > > > Oh, and Brendan? Nero? Hope there?s something in that bloatware that you > really, really need. I gave up on it at version 5. > > > > Otherwise, the free ImgBurn (http://www.imgburn.com/ ) does pretty much > everything I need. > > > > Darren > > Hungerford, UK > > > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > On > Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence > Sent: 01 May 2009 11:12 > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > > > > you made me laugh about i-tunes ....yeah i hate it also but have to use it > to put vinyl and tape into my computer ...i hate the way it duplicates > everything meaning i have to delete loads > >> Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 21:55:33 +1200 >> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz >> To: gathering at misera.net >> Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead >> >> Multimedia programs do in a sense fight each other, insofar as the file >> associations contention. Windows keeps a list of which programs to use >> to >> open particular file types...so by default when you double-click that >> kind >> of file, Windows will know what to do with it (open .doc files with M$ >> Word for example...). >> >> Many multimedia apps ask you when you install them if you want to >> associate the application with ALL multimedia types (that it is >> compatible >> with)...such as mp3 / mp4, avi, wmv, flac, playing DVDs etc etc (there's >> loads of formats) and it's easy to overlook this setting when zipping >> through the install screens. I recently did a full install of the >> software >> that came with my DVD burner and it included a flaming media player >> (Nero), on top of all the other ones I have...as if I needed another one >> FFS... >> >> Can become a bit messy after a while as well, once you have several >> applications on your PC that aim to do the same thing, some of which >> will >> attempt to load automatically when your PC starts, automatically update, >> and many of which share core Windows system files & settings(dlls etc). >> >> Good rule of thumb is to pick a decent one that covers most bases and >> ignore the others. You probably don't need Quicktime on a Windows PC for >> example, avi files can be opened in VLC or Win Media Player. (And good >> luck if you're brave enough to use iTunes - we hates it precious ;p) >> >> If you want to change the file associations let me know, or Google it if >> you want, there's multiple ways to do it, pretty standard on Windows >> from >> 2000 on. Or you can simply re-install the player you want to use and let >> it reclaim the associations. >> >> The less programs you have on Windows the quicker it goes and less messy >> it gets, generally. >> >> > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Stephen Lawrence >> > wrote: >> > >> >> thanks bo >> >> ? to be honest i don't know which version i have ..i'm a bit wary of >> >> downloads and installations ..i was once told that programs >> can''fight >> >> '' >> >> with each other whether that is true i don;t know >> >> ? i have vlc and real player and win amp but prefer media player for >> >> the >> >> database >> > >> > Both and, programs cannot as such interfere with eachother, but codecs >> > and dll's can and will at every given chance. This is why i >> > recommended smplayer and/or vlc, since they both use their own sets of >> > codecs instead of using (and cluttering) the standard DirectShow set >> > that Windows Media Player and virtually every other media player use. >> > >> > To find the version of nearly any Windows program, click "Help" and >> > then "About". >> > >> > Also, if you already have vlc, you should be able to play WMA and WMV >> > with it. Just make sure you have the latest version from >> > www.videolan.org and you're all set. >> > >> > >> > b >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Gathering mailing list >> > Gathering at misera.net >> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _____ > > Windows Live Messenger just got better. Find out > more! > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com Fri May 1 07:12:48 2009 From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 12:12:48 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com> References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo> <013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo> <21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh> <37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com> Message-ID: On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Darren A. Peace wrote: > Oh, and Brendan? Nero? Hope there?s something in that bloatware that you > really, really need. I gave up on it at version 5. > > Otherwise, the free ImgBurn (http://www.imgburn.com/ ) does pretty much > everything I need. Last time i checked, ImgBurn wasn't exactly user friendly, but yeah, if you know what you're doing, it's excellent. Otherwise, i'd recommend Prassi ONES, which did wonders for me when Roxio was bought up and dumped. b From bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com Fri May 1 07:13:32 2009 From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 12:13:32 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <34486.203.210.68.145.1241176018.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo> <21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh> <37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com> <34486.203.210.68.145.1241176018.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Brendan wrote: > My OCD wouldn't sit still until I had > everything in my particular format, band name space hyphen space year > space hyphen space album name space hypen space track number space hyphen > space etc. LOL. www.mp3tag.de - you will thank me for it. b From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Fri May 1 07:42:20 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 23:42:20 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo> <21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh> <37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com> <34486.203.210.68.145.1241176018.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <65480.203.210.68.145.1241178140.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Cheers...I'm a total n00b with that stuff...aber mein Deutsch ist jetzt scheisse... > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Brendan wrote: > >> My OCD wouldn't sit still until I had >> everything in my particular format, band name space hyphen space year >> space hyphen space album name space hypen space track number space >> hyphen >> space etc. LOL. > > www.mp3tag.de - you will thank me for it. > > > b > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Fri May 1 07:48:21 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 23:48:21 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [kj] OT: Killing Flu Joke Message-ID: <6288.203.210.68.145.1241178501.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Pooh.gif Type: image/gif Size: 76967 bytes Desc: not available Url : From dpeace at bigfoot.com Fri May 1 07:56:20 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 12:56:20 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <34486.203.210.68.145.1241176018.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo> <013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo> <21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh> <37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com> <34486.203.210.68.145.1241176018.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <022601c9ca53$d7a1a0c0$86e4e240$@com> Heh. The help was for Stephen; I'm clear that your anti-Apple bias means that you'd rather see Air Supply in concert than load up iTunes. Darren Hungerford, UK -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Sent: 01 May 2009 12:07 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Yeah I know you can do it, I found that setting immediately and enabled it, just couldn't believe it started doing it automatically, and one of the reasons it pi$$ed me off is that I'd just spent weeks renaming and retagging my mp3 files. WEEKS. My OCD wouldn't sit still until I had everything in my particular format, band name space hyphen space year space hyphen space album name space hypen space track number space hyphen space etc. LOL. Also generally using the thing - my reaction was, to use a current geek meme - DO NOT WANT, or FAIL...and performance was pretty $hite too...had a single core CPU back then. Nup. Hated it. I also disliked it because of the iPod hype, I am player agnostic, no way do I want to be tied in to a fucking Applie application. So typical of that company, try to lock down the customers' choice and over-price with marketing hype and branding. Ugh. (And no it's not an anti-Apple pro-M$ rant, it's merely an anti-Apple rant...). There was some other drama about not being able to easily share your files with friends' PCs etc. Re Nero...I'm lazy with multimedia stuff, more of a gamer / hardware fan, never took the time to investigate that. Would be nice to do away with Nero actually, I have a rebuild coming up in a month or so so I wll do it then. I just assumed it was a good idea to use the software that came with the drive, and Nero has always been easy to use. Cheers. > Edit > Preferences > Advanced > > > > > Tick Keep iTunes Music Folder Organised > > Untick Copy files to iTunes Music Folder if you don?t want duplicates. > > > > I have the Copy Files option ticked, so everything is copied to my central > library, and I can then manually delete the original file, which could be > anywhere on my computer. > > > > Oh, and Brendan? Nero? Hope there?s something in that bloatware that you > really, really need. I gave up on it at version 5. > > > > Otherwise, the free ImgBurn (http://www.imgburn.com/ ) does pretty much > everything I need. > > > > Darren > > Hungerford, UK > > > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > On > Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence > Sent: 01 May 2009 11:12 > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > > > > you made me laugh about i-tunes ....yeah i hate it also but have to use it > to put vinyl and tape into my computer ...i hate the way it duplicates > everything meaning i have to delete loads > >> Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 21:55:33 +1200 >> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz >> To: gathering at misera.net >> Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead >> >> Multimedia programs do in a sense fight each other, insofar as the file >> associations contention. Windows keeps a list of which programs to use >> to >> open particular file types...so by default when you double-click that >> kind >> of file, Windows will know what to do with it (open .doc files with M$ >> Word for example...). >> >> Many multimedia apps ask you when you install them if you want to >> associate the application with ALL multimedia types (that it is >> compatible >> with)...such as mp3 / mp4, avi, wmv, flac, playing DVDs etc etc (there's >> loads of formats) and it's easy to overlook this setting when zipping >> through the install screens. I recently did a full install of the >> software >> that came with my DVD burner and it included a flaming media player >> (Nero), on top of all the other ones I have...as if I needed another one >> FFS... >> >> Can become a bit messy after a while as well, once you have several >> applications on your PC that aim to do the same thing, some of which >> will >> attempt to load automatically when your PC starts, automatically update, >> and many of which share core Windows system files & settings(dlls etc). >> >> Good rule of thumb is to pick a decent one that covers most bases and >> ignore the others. You probably don't need Quicktime on a Windows PC for >> example, avi files can be opened in VLC or Win Media Player. (And good >> luck if you're brave enough to use iTunes - we hates it precious ;p) >> >> If you want to change the file associations let me know, or Google it if >> you want, there's multiple ways to do it, pretty standard on Windows >> from >> 2000 on. Or you can simply re-install the player you want to use and let >> it reclaim the associations. >> >> The less programs you have on Windows the quicker it goes and less messy >> it gets, generally. >> >> > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Stephen Lawrence >> > wrote: >> > >> >> thanks bo >> >> ? to be honest i don't know which version i have ..i'm a bit wary of >> >> downloads and installations ..i was once told that programs >> can''fight >> >> '' >> >> with each other whether that is true i don;t know >> >> ? i have vlc and real player and win amp but prefer media player for >> >> the >> >> database >> > >> > Both and, programs cannot as such interfere with eachother, but codecs >> > and dll's can and will at every given chance. This is why i >> > recommended smplayer and/or vlc, since they both use their own sets of >> > codecs instead of using (and cluttering) the standard DirectShow set >> > that Windows Media Player and virtually every other media player use. >> > >> > To find the version of nearly any Windows program, click "Help" and >> > then "About". >> > >> > Also, if you already have vlc, you should be able to play WMA and WMV >> > with it. Just make sure you have the latest version from >> > www.videolan.org and you're all set. >> > >> > >> > b >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Gathering mailing list >> > Gathering at misera.net >> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _____ > > Windows Live Messenger just got better. Find out > more! > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com Fri May 1 08:00:09 2009 From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 13:00:09 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <65480.203.210.68.145.1241178140.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo> <37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com> <34486.203.210.68.145.1241176018.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <65480.203.210.68.145.1241178140.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Brendan wrote: > Cheers...I'm a total n00b with that stuff...aber mein Deutsch ist jetzt > scheisse... See the little English flag in the top right corner? The application is in a multitude of languages btw. b From dpeace at bigfoot.com Fri May 1 07:59:34 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 12:59:34 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo> <013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo> <21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh> <37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com> Message-ID: <022d01c9ca54$4bde4010$e39ac030$@com> ImgBurn now has a default (but turn-offable) Noddy wizard interface; I have been able to load it on the PC of a completely technophobe client and he didn't then break his computer, which is a strong recommendation. http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=screenshots Darren Hungerford, UK -----Original Message----- From: Bo Krogsgaard [mailto:bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com] Sent: 01 May 2009 12:13 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Darren A. Peace wrote: > Oh, and Brendan? Nero? Hope there?s something in that bloatware that you > really, really need. I gave up on it at version 5. > > Otherwise, the free ImgBurn (http://www.imgburn.com/ ) does pretty much > everything I need. Last time i checked, ImgBurn wasn't exactly user friendly, but yeah, if you know what you're doing, it's excellent. Otherwise, i'd recommend Prassi ONES, which did wonders for me when Roxio was bought up and dumped. b From stephen.l at live.com Fri May 1 08:20:31 2009 From: stephen.l at live.com (Stephen Lawrence) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 12:20:31 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT: Killing Flu Joke In-Reply-To: <6288.203.210.68.145.1241178501.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> References: <6288.203.210.68.145.1241178501.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: ROFALMAO > Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 23:48:21 +1200 > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: [kj] OT: Killing Flu Joke > _________________________________________________________________ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos ? Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Fri May 1 08:39:09 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 00:39:09 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <022601c9ca53$d7a1a0c0$86e4e240$@com> References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo> <013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo> <21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh> <37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com> <34486.203.210.68.145.1241176018.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <022601c9ca53$d7a1a0c0$86e4e240$@com> Message-ID: <43619.203.210.68.145.1241181549.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> At the end of the day I want a little piece of inconspicuous software that plays media files & makes playlists, and maybe has an equaliser. Something free, unobtrusive, won't constantly try to wrest my file associations over to the dark side, install Google fucking toolbar, take 10 mins to install, loads up the iStore every time it opens, reminding me that the kids are all listening to Rhianna these days - yay - and sinks its hooks into the operating system so that if I try to remove it I have to rip half my OS's brain-stem out, set up a hearrtbeat back to the Deathstar in order to *update* itself periodically... In fact I dislike Windows Media Player as well for similar reasons, but it never tried to steal our files, precious, and make them it's own *growl* > Heh. > > The help was for Stephen; I'm clear that your anti-Apple bias means that > you'd rather see Air Supply in concert than load up iTunes. > > Darren > Hungerford, UK > > -----Original Message----- > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > On > Behalf Of Brendan > Sent: 01 May 2009 12:07 > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > > Yeah I know you can do it, I found that setting immediately and enabled > it, just couldn't believe it started doing it automatically, and one of > the reasons it pi$$ed me off is that I'd just spent weeks renaming and > retagging my mp3 files. WEEKS. My OCD wouldn't sit still until I had > everything in my particular format, band name space hyphen space year > space hyphen space album name space hypen space track number space hyphen > space etc. LOL. > > Also generally using the thing - my reaction was, to use a current geek > meme - DO NOT WANT, or FAIL...and performance was pretty $hite too...had a > single core CPU back then. > > Nup. Hated it. I also disliked it because of the iPod hype, I am player > agnostic, no way do I want to be tied in to a fucking Applie application. > So typical of that company, try to lock down the customers' choice and > over-price with marketing hype and branding. Ugh. (And no it's not an > anti-Apple pro-M$ rant, it's merely an anti-Apple rant...). There was some > other drama about not being able to easily share your files with friends' > PCs etc. > > Re Nero...I'm lazy with multimedia stuff, more of a gamer / hardware fan, > never took the time to investigate that. Would be nice to do away with > Nero actually, I have a rebuild coming up in a month or so so I wll do it > then. I just assumed it was a good idea to use the software that came with > the drive, and Nero has always been easy to use. Cheers. > >> Edit > Preferences > Advanced > >> >> >> >> Tick Keep iTunes Music Folder Organised >> >> Untick Copy files to iTunes Music Folder if you don?t want duplicates. >> >> >> >> I have the Copy Files option ticked, so everything is copied to my >> central >> library, and I can then manually delete the original file, which could >> be >> anywhere on my computer. >> >> >> >> Oh, and Brendan? Nero? Hope there?s something in that bloatware that you >> really, really need. I gave up on it at version 5. >> >> >> >> Otherwise, the free ImgBurn (http://www.imgburn.com/ ) does pretty much >> everything I need. >> >> >> >> Darren >> >> Hungerford, UK >> >> >> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] >> On >> Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence >> Sent: 01 May 2009 11:12 >> To: gathering at misera.net >> Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead >> >> >> >> you made me laugh about i-tunes ....yeah i hate it also but have to use >> it >> to put vinyl and tape into my computer ...i hate the way it duplicates >> everything meaning i have to delete loads >> >>> Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 21:55:33 +1200 >>> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz >>> To: gathering at misera.net >>> Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead >>> >>> Multimedia programs do in a sense fight each other, insofar as the file >>> associations contention. Windows keeps a list of which programs to use >>> to >>> open particular file types...so by default when you double-click that >>> kind >>> of file, Windows will know what to do with it (open .doc files with M$ >>> Word for example...). >>> >>> Many multimedia apps ask you when you install them if you want to >>> associate the application with ALL multimedia types (that it is >>> compatible >>> with)...such as mp3 / mp4, avi, wmv, flac, playing DVDs etc etc >>> (there's >>> loads of formats) and it's easy to overlook this setting when zipping >>> through the install screens. I recently did a full install of the >>> software >>> that came with my DVD burner and it included a flaming media player >>> (Nero), on top of all the other ones I have...as if I needed another >>> one >>> FFS... >>> >>> Can become a bit messy after a while as well, once you have several >>> applications on your PC that aim to do the same thing, some of which >>> will >>> attempt to load automatically when your PC starts, automatically >>> update, >>> and many of which share core Windows system files & settings(dlls etc). >>> >>> Good rule of thumb is to pick a decent one that covers most bases and >>> ignore the others. You probably don't need Quicktime on a Windows PC >>> for >>> example, avi files can be opened in VLC or Win Media Player. (And good >>> luck if you're brave enough to use iTunes - we hates it precious ;p) >>> >>> If you want to change the file associations let me know, or Google it >>> if >>> you want, there's multiple ways to do it, pretty standard on Windows >>> from >>> 2000 on. Or you can simply re-install the player you want to use and >>> let >>> it reclaim the associations. >>> >>> The less programs you have on Windows the quicker it goes and less >>> messy >>> it gets, generally. >>> >>> > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Stephen Lawrence >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> >> thanks bo >>> >> ? to be honest i don't know which version i have ..i'm a bit wary >>> of >>> >> downloads and installations ..i was once told that programs >>> can''fight >>> >> '' >>> >> with each other whether that is true i don;t know >>> >> ? i have vlc and real player and win amp but prefer media player >>> for >>> >> the >>> >> database >>> > >>> > Both and, programs cannot as such interfere with eachother, but >>> codecs >>> > and dll's can and will at every given chance. This is why i >>> > recommended smplayer and/or vlc, since they both use their own sets >>> of >>> > codecs instead of using (and cluttering) the standard DirectShow set >>> > that Windows Media Player and virtually every other media player use. >>> > >>> > To find the version of nearly any Windows program, click "Help" and >>> > then "About". >>> > >>> > Also, if you already have vlc, you should be able to play WMA and WMV >>> > with it. Just make sure you have the latest version from >>> > www.videolan.org and you're all set. >>> > >>> > >>> > b >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Gathering mailing list >>> > Gathering at misera.net >>> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >>> > >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gathering mailing list >>> Gathering at misera.net >>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> >> _____ >> >> Windows Live Messenger just got better. Find out >> more! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Fri May 1 08:39:48 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 00:39:48 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo> <37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com> <34486.203.210.68.145.1241176018.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <65480.203.210.68.145.1241178140.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <44058.203.210.68.145.1241181588.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Details...as I said my mind turns off for some reason with multimedia... > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Brendan wrote: > >> Cheers...I'm a total n00b with that stuff...aber mein Deutsch ist jetzt >> scheisse... > > See the little English flag in the top right corner? > > The application is in a multitude of languages btw. > > > b > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From stephen.l at live.com Fri May 1 08:56:59 2009 From: stephen.l at live.com (Stephen Lawrence) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 12:56:59 +0000 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <44058.203.210.68.145.1241181588.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo> <37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com> <34486.203.210.68.145.1241176018.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <65480.203.210.68.145.1241178140.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <44058.203.210.68.145.1241181588.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: brendan you are cracking me up with your rant about your computer ...i have my moments but it never gets me THATbad > Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 00:39:48 +1200 > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > > Details...as I said my mind turns off for some reason with multimedia... > > > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Brendan wrote: > > > >> Cheers...I'm a total n00b with that stuff...aber mein Deutsch ist jetzt > >> scheisse... > > > > See the little English flag in the top right corner? > > > > The application is in a multitude of languages btw. > > > > > > b > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering at misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Beyond Hotmail ? see what else you can do with Windows Live. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665375/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpeace at bigfoot.com Fri May 1 09:50:12 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 14:50:12 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <43619.203.210.68.145.1241181549.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo> <013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo> <21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh> <37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com> <34486.203.210.68.145.1241176018.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <022601c9ca53$d7a1a0c0$86e4e240$@com> <43619.203.210.68.145.1241181549.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <024601c9ca63$c022f7e0$4068e7a0$@com> WinAmp? And I was most amused that WMP in the Windows 7 beta ate the first 20 or so seconds of any mp3 file it found on your network! Classy bit of programming, that. Still, it could have converted everything to WMA. Darren Hungerford, UK -----Original Message----- From: Brendan [mailto:bq at soundgardener.co.nz] Sent: 01 May 2009 13:39 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead At the end of the day I want a little piece of inconspicuous software that plays media files & makes playlists, and maybe has an equaliser. Something free, unobtrusive, won't constantly try to wrest my file associations over to the dark side, install Google fucking toolbar, take 10 mins to install, loads up the iStore every time it opens, reminding me that the kids are all listening to Rhianna these days - yay - and sinks its hooks into the operating system so that if I try to remove it I have to rip half my OS's brain-stem out, set up a hearrtbeat back to the Deathstar in order to *update* itself periodically... In fact I dislike Windows Media Player as well for similar reasons, but it never tried to steal our files, precious, and make them it's own *growl* > Heh. > > The help was for Stephen; I'm clear that your anti-Apple bias means that > you'd rather see Air Supply in concert than load up iTunes. > > Darren > Hungerford, UK > > -----Original Message----- > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > On > Behalf Of Brendan > Sent: 01 May 2009 12:07 > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > > Yeah I know you can do it, I found that setting immediately and enabled > it, just couldn't believe it started doing it automatically, and one of > the reasons it pi$$ed me off is that I'd just spent weeks renaming and > retagging my mp3 files. WEEKS. My OCD wouldn't sit still until I had > everything in my particular format, band name space hyphen space year > space hyphen space album name space hypen space track number space hyphen > space etc. LOL. > > Also generally using the thing - my reaction was, to use a current geek > meme - DO NOT WANT, or FAIL...and performance was pretty $hite too...had a > single core CPU back then. > > Nup. Hated it. I also disliked it because of the iPod hype, I am player > agnostic, no way do I want to be tied in to a fucking Applie application. > So typical of that company, try to lock down the customers' choice and > over-price with marketing hype and branding. Ugh. (And no it's not an > anti-Apple pro-M$ rant, it's merely an anti-Apple rant...). There was some > other drama about not being able to easily share your files with friends' > PCs etc. > > Re Nero...I'm lazy with multimedia stuff, more of a gamer / hardware fan, > never took the time to investigate that. Would be nice to do away with > Nero actually, I have a rebuild coming up in a month or so so I wll do it > then. I just assumed it was a good idea to use the software that came with > the drive, and Nero has always been easy to use. Cheers. > >> Edit > Preferences > Advanced > >> >> >> >> Tick Keep iTunes Music Folder Organised >> >> Untick Copy files to iTunes Music Folder if you don?t want duplicates. >> >> >> >> I have the Copy Files option ticked, so everything is copied to my >> central >> library, and I can then manually delete the original file, which could >> be >> anywhere on my computer. >> >> >> >> Oh, and Brendan? Nero? Hope there?s something in that bloatware that you >> really, really need. I gave up on it at version 5. >> >> >> >> Otherwise, the free ImgBurn (http://www.imgburn.com/ ) does pretty much >> everything I need. >> >> >> >> Darren >> >> Hungerford, UK >> >> >> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] >> On >> Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence >> Sent: 01 May 2009 11:12 >> To: gathering at misera.net >> Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead >> >> >> >> you made me laugh about i-tunes ....yeah i hate it also but have to use >> it >> to put vinyl and tape into my computer ...i hate the way it duplicates >> everything meaning i have to delete loads >> >>> Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 21:55:33 +1200 >>> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz >>> To: gathering at misera.net >>> Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead >>> >>> Multimedia programs do in a sense fight each other, insofar as the file >>> associations contention. Windows keeps a list of which programs to use >>> to >>> open particular file types...so by default when you double-click that >>> kind >>> of file, Windows will know what to do with it (open .doc files with M$ >>> Word for example...). >>> >>> Many multimedia apps ask you when you install them if you want to >>> associate the application with ALL multimedia types (that it is >>> compatible >>> with)...such as mp3 / mp4, avi, wmv, flac, playing DVDs etc etc >>> (there's >>> loads of formats) and it's easy to overlook this setting when zipping >>> through the install screens. I recently did a full install of the >>> software >>> that came with my DVD burner and it included a flaming media player >>> (Nero), on top of all the other ones I have...as if I needed another >>> one >>> FFS... >>> >>> Can become a bit messy after a while as well, once you have several >>> applications on your PC that aim to do the same thing, some of which >>> will >>> attempt to load automatically when your PC starts, automatically >>> update, >>> and many of which share core Windows system files & settings(dlls etc). >>> >>> Good rule of thumb is to pick a decent one that covers most bases and >>> ignore the others. You probably don't need Quicktime on a Windows PC >>> for >>> example, avi files can be opened in VLC or Win Media Player. (And good >>> luck if you're brave enough to use iTunes - we hates it precious ;p) >>> >>> If you want to change the file associations let me know, or Google it >>> if >>> you want, there's multiple ways to do it, pretty standard on Windows >>> from >>> 2000 on. Or you can simply re-install the player you want to use and >>> let >>> it reclaim the associations. >>> >>> The less programs you have on Windows the quicker it goes and less >>> messy >>> it gets, generally. >>> >>> > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Stephen Lawrence >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> >> thanks bo >>> >> ? to be honest i don't know which version i have ..i'm a bit wary >>> of >>> >> downloads and installations ..i was once told that programs >>> can''fight >>> >> '' >>> >> with each other whether that is true i don;t know >>> >> ? i have vlc and real player and win amp but prefer media player >>> for >>> >> the >>> >> database >>> > >>> > Both and, programs cannot as such interfere with eachother, but >>> codecs >>> > and dll's can and will at every given chance. This is why i >>> > recommended smplayer and/or vlc, since they both use their own sets >>> of >>> > codecs instead of using (and cluttering) the standard DirectShow set >>> > that Windows Media Player and virtually every other media player use. >>> > >>> > To find the version of nearly any Windows program, click "Help" and >>> > then "About". >>> > >>> > Also, if you already have vlc, you should be able to play WMA and WMV >>> > with it. Just make sure you have the latest version from >>> > www.videolan.org and you're all set. >>> > >>> > >>> > b >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Gathering mailing list >>> > Gathering at misera.net >>> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >>> > >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gathering mailing list >>> Gathering at misera.net >>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> >> _____ >> >> Windows Live Messenger just got better. 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From: kjlist at live.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:34:18 -0500 Subject: [kj] Isle of Wight update For those who care, KJ have now been formally confirmed for the Isle of Wight Festival, per the web site: http://www.isleofwightfestival.com/big-top.aspx In the tent as part of the Tim Burgess-curated Sunday night with Charlatans, Horrors and the Black Lips, et. al. Sorry to interrupt. You may resume the swine flu discussion and gay jokes. Rediscover Hotmail?: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry Check it out. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_more_042009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Peace) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 15:48:38 +0100 Subject: [kj] Isle of Wight update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <025b01c9ca6b$e9ef8630$bdce9290$@com> ...that's populated by strange people in dungarees with a predilection for human sacrifice and cannibalism. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence Sent: 01 May 2009 15:23 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update err greg it is an island off the coast of england and part of the uk _____ From: gregslawson at msn.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 10:02:29 -0400 Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update The Slits and A Certain Ratio in one day? Holy fuck! I'm moving to... (what country is it in?) _____ From: kjlist at live.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:34:18 -0500 Subject: [kj] Isle of Wight update For those who care, KJ have now been formally confirmed for the Isle of Wight Festival, per the web site: http://www.isleofwightfestival.com/big-top.aspx In the tent as part of the Tim Burgess-curated Sunday night with Charlatans, Horrors and the Black Lips, et. al. Sorry to interrupt. You may resume the swine flu discussion and gay jokes. _____ Rediscover HotmailR: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry Check it out. _____ Windows LiveT HotmailR:.more than just e-mail. Check it out. _____ Windows Live Messenger just got better. Find out more! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Fri May 1 11:05:50 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 01:05:50 +1000 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo><37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com><34486.203.210.68.145.1241176018.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><65480.203.210.68.145.1241178140.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <44058.203.210.68.145.1241181588.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <97A88BA7BF6C48718EC18672E679967F@HeadHigh> I used to have the focus and mental endurance of a guru when I was a kid, now thanks to years of being online and watching telly, unless I get an information pay-off within 10-seconds I'm gone burger. DADDY NEEDS HIS MEDICINE! (It's not really that bad, but with so much info out there at your fingertips, I am guilty of being a lazy bugger at times. Shift swaps don't help concentration either.) _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence Sent: Friday, 1 May 2009 22:57 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead brendan you are cracking me up with your rant about your computer ...i have my moments but it never gets me THATbad > Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 00:39:48 +1200 > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > > Details...as I said my mind turns off for some reason with multimedia... > > > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Brendan wrote: > > > >> Cheers...I'm a total n00b with that stuff...aber mein Deutsch ist jetzt > >> scheisse... > > > > See the little English flag in the top right corner? > > > > The application is in a multitude of languages btw. > > > > > > b > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering at misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____ Get the New Internet Explore 8 Optimised for MSN. 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From: kjlist at live.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:34:18 -0500 Subject: [kj] Isle of Wight update For those who care, KJ have now been formally confirmed for the Isle of Wight Festival, per the web site: http://www.isleofwightfestival.com/big-top.aspx In the tent as part of the Tim Burgess-curated Sunday night with Charlatans, Horrors and the Black Lips, et. al. Sorry to interrupt. You may resume the swine flu discussion and gay jokes. Rediscover Hotmail?: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry Check it out. Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. Check it out. Windows Live Messenger just got better. Find out more! _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? SkyDrive?: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_skydrive_042009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpeace at bigfoot.com Fri May 1 11:12:55 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 16:12:55 +0100 Subject: [kj] Spare Ticket for KJ at Heaven In-Reply-To: <49fb0740c9eed_6a261555555879b4721@weasel13.tmail> References: <49fb0740c9eed_6a261555555879b4721@weasel13.tmail> Message-ID: <026c01c9ca6f$4e5c1d10$eb145730$@com> Sorry Diaz ? I posted about my spare a few times, but Mr Stephen Lawrence is now to benefit from it. Hope your friend finds one. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of circusbar Sent: 01 May 2009 15:29 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: [kj] Spare Ticket for KJ at Heaven Dear Gatherers, does anyone have a spare ticket for wednesday??? you can reply me offlist warm regards d i a z -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Fri May 1 11:19:33 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 01:19:33 +1000 Subject: [kj] Isle of Wight update In-Reply-To: <025b01c9ca6b$e9ef8630$bdce9290$@com> References: <025b01c9ca6b$e9ef8630$bdce9290$@com> Message-ID: Dexy's Midnight Runners? _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 00:49 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update ...that's populated by strange people in dungarees with a predilection for human sacrifice and cannibalism. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence Sent: 01 May 2009 15:23 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update err greg it is an island off the coast of england and part of the uk _____ From: gregslawson at msn.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 10:02:29 -0400 Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update The Slits and A Certain Ratio in one day? Holy fuck! I'm moving to... (what country is it in?) _____ From: kjlist at live.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:34:18 -0500 Subject: [kj] Isle of Wight update For those who care, KJ have now been formally confirmed for the Isle of Wight Festival, per the web site: http://www.isleofwightfestival.com/big-top.aspx In the tent as part of the Tim Burgess-curated Sunday night with Charlatans, Horrors and the Black Lips, et. al. Sorry to interrupt. 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URL: From folk.devil at hotmail.com Fri May 1 11:23:35 2009 From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 08:23:35 -0700 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <024601c9ca63$c022f7e0$4068e7a0$@com> References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo> <013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo> <21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh> <37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com> <34486.203.210.68.145.1241176018.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <022601c9ca53$d7a1a0c0$86e4e240$@com> <43619.203.210.68.145.1241181549.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <024601c9ca63$c022f7e0$4068e7a0$@com> Message-ID: iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_more_042009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From folk.devil at hotmail.com Fri May 1 11:48:21 2009 From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 08:48:21 -0700 Subject: [kj] Isle of Wight update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DIFuQq0r6M From: gregslawson at msn.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 11:07:56 -0400 Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update Thanks--I keep seeing a concert from there on cable TV but didn't know where it was. From: stephen.l at live.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 14:23:23 +0000 Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update err greg it is an island off the coast of england and part of the uk _________________________________________________________________ Rediscover Hotmail?: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Updates2_042009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpeace at bigfoot.com Fri May 1 13:02:51 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 18:02:51 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo> <013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo> <21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh> <37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com> <34486.203.210.68.145.1241176018.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <022601c9ca53$d7a1a0c0$86e4e240$@com> <43619.203.210.68.145.1241181549.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <024601c9ca63$c022f7e0$4068e7a0$@com> Message-ID: <02a701c9ca7e$a99ae300$fcd0a900$@com> Apologies if you're past this, but : is the original soundcard integrated into the motherboard? Even if not, I'd take a look at the BIOS options and see if you can physically select the PCI slot with the new soundcard. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 01 May 2009 16:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. _____ Windows LiveT HotmailR:.more than just e-mail. Check it out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Fri May 1 13:27:17 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 10:27:17 -0700 Subject: [kj] Isle of Wight update References: <025b01c9ca6b$e9ef8630$bdce9290$@com> Message-ID: "Come On Eileen ... You're Dinner." (*groan ...* Just standard Vegas lounge humor) ; ) Cheers, k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Brendan Quinn To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 8:19 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update Dexy's Midnight Runners? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 00:49 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update ...that's populated by strange people in dungarees with a predilection for human sacrifice and cannibalism. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence Sent: 01 May 2009 15:23 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update err greg it is an island off the coast of england and part of the uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: gregslawson at msn.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 10:02:29 -0400 Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update The Slits and A Certain Ratio in one day? Holy fuck! I'm moving to... (what country is it in?) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: kjlist at live.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:34:18 -0500 Subject: [kj] Isle of Wight update For those who care, KJ have now been formally confirmed for the Isle of Wight Festival, per the web site: http://www.isleofwightfestival.com/big-top.aspx In the tent as part of the Tim Burgess-curated Sunday night with Charlatans, Horrors and the Black Lips, et. al. Sorry to interrupt. You may resume the swine flu discussion and gay jokes. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Rediscover Hotmail?: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry Check it out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Windows LiveT Hotmail?:.more than just e-mail. Check it out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Windows Live Messenger just got better. 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Not so much. k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 2:11 AM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman onthe economic crisis Brendan, you would probably like this. James K. Galbraith debating tea-bagger leader Dick Armey, just came out today (May 1, 2009): Causes of the Crisis James K. Galbraith | May 01, 2009 | Commentary Editor?s note: These remarks were delivered to a meeting of the Texas Lyceum in Austin on April 3, at a debate between University of Texas professor James Galbraith, an Observer contributing writer, and former Majority Leader Richard Armey, chief instigator of the recent Astroturf ?tea party" protests. Armey had begun his remarks by noting that his rule in life was ?never trust anyone from Austin or Boston,? and proceeded to declare his allegiance to the ?Austrian School? of economics, a libertarian view that regards public intervention in private markets as socialism. GALBRAITH: It is of course a pleasure to be with you today. I was born in Boston, and I am proud of it. And I have lived 24 years in Austin?and I?m proud of that. Leader Armey spoke to you of his admiration for Austrian economics. I can?t resist telling you that when the Vienna Economics Institute celebrated its centennial, many years ago, they invited, as their keynote speaker, my father [John Kenneth Galbraith]. The leading economists of the Austrian school?including von Hayek and von Haberler?returned for the occasion. And so my father took a moment to reflect on the economic triumphs of the Austrian Republic since the war, which, he said, ?would not have been possible without the contribution of these men.? They nodded?briefly?until it dawned on them what he meant. They?d all left the country in the 1930s. My own economics is American: genus Institutionalist; species: Galbraithian. This is a panel on the crisis. Mr. Moderator, you ask what is the root cause? My reply is in three parts. First, an idea. The idea that capitalism, for all its considerable virtues, is inherently self-stabilizing, that government and private business are adversaries rather than partners; the idea that freedom without responsibility is a viable business principle; the idea that regulation, in financial matters especially, can be dispensed with. We tried it, and we see the result. Second, a person. It would not be right to blame any single person for these events, but if I had to choose one to name it would be a Texan, our own distinguished former Senator Phil Gramm. I?d cite specifically the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act?the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act?in 1999, after which it took less than a decade to reproduce all the pathologies that Glass-Steagall had been enacted to deal with in 1933. [...] Rest at: http://www.texasobserver.org/article.php?aid=3031 _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From dpeace at bigfoot.com Fri May 1 13:33:33 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 18:33:33 +0100 Subject: [kj] Isle of Wight update In-Reply-To: References: <025b01c9ca6b$e9ef8630$bdce9290$@com> Message-ID: <02b501c9ca82$f3c39450$db4abcf0$@com> Heh. Hope Eileen is feeling better after her Bukkake party. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 01 May 2009 16:20 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update Dexy's Midnight Runners? _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 00:49 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update ...that's populated by strange people in dungarees with a predilection for human sacrifice and cannibalism. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence Sent: 01 May 2009 15:23 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update err greg it is an island off the coast of england and part of the uk _____ From: gregslawson at msn.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 10:02:29 -0400 Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update The Slits and A Certain Ratio in one day? Holy fuck! I'm moving to... (what country is it in?) _____ From: kjlist at live.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:34:18 -0500 Subject: [kj] Isle of Wight update For those who care, KJ have now been formally confirmed for the Isle of Wight Festival, per the web site: http://www.isleofwightfestival.com/big-top.aspx In the tent as part of the Tim Burgess-curated Sunday night with Charlatans, Horrors and the Black Lips, et. al. Sorry to interrupt. You may resume the swine flu discussion and gay jokes. _____ Rediscover HotmailR: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry Check it out. _____ Windows LiveT HotmailR:.more than just e-mail. Check it out. _____ Windows Live Messenger just got better. Find out more! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk Fri May 1 13:34:48 2009 From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk (jo) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 18:34:48 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo> <013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo> Message-ID: <00ff01c9ca83$201c1e50$0600000a@jo> Couldn't you just run it through your security system and check it out? well jo if you don't know what attachments you are sending then perhaps it's best if i delete it ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:22:28 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I haven't a clue Stephen. hi jo please excuse my ignorance but what is a wmv file ...so i know where to put it ...no rude suggestions please ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Surfing the web just got more rewarding. 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From: dpeace at bigfoot.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 18:02:51 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Apologies if you?re past this, but : is the original soundcard integrated into the motherboard? Even if not, I?d take a look at the BIOS options and see if you can physically select the PCI slot with the new soundcard. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 01 May 2009 16:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. 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That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. _____ Windows LiveT HotmailR:.more than just e-mail. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Fri May 1 13:48:23 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 03:48:23 +1000 Subject: [kj] Isle of Wight update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2FAE673864884122A3EFEFCB4B2F1FEB@HeadHigh> Kick ass! Check out this fucking epic mashup someone just sent me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tprMEs-zfQA &eurl=http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,28348,25407968-5014239,00.ht ml&feature=player_embedded _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:48 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DIFuQq0r6M _____ From: gregslawson at msn.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 11:07:56 -0400 Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update Thanks--I keep seeing a concert from there on cable TV but didn't know where it was. _____ From: stephen.l at live.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 14:23:23 +0000 Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update err greg it is an island off the coast of england and part of the uk _____ _____ Rediscover HotmailR: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. Check it out. 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Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 8:19 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update Dexy's Midnight Runners? _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 00:49 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update ...that's populated by strange people in dungarees with a predilection for human sacrifice and cannibalism. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence Sent: 01 May 2009 15:23 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update err greg it is an island off the coast of england and part of the uk _____ From: gregslawson at msn.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 10:02:29 -0400 Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update The Slits and A Certain Ratio in one day? Holy fuck! I'm moving to... 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URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Fri May 1 13:51:43 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 10:51:43 -0700 Subject: [kj] KJ Heaven ticket available References: <013b01c9c887$4c81b980$e5852c80$@com><21231.203.210.68.145.1240991848.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><017a01c9c8b2$c6f66460$54e32d20$@com><7454a99b0904290400o3eeebfe7vcac037d269826011@mail.gmail.com><01ab01c9c8bd$499f7190$dcde54b0$@com><0DB43666-2094-49B9-AFD6-14D7599D0066@suspiria.demon.co.uk><02b901c9c904$20ae0f20$620a2d60$@com><20090430073652.CEC6C10584@mailwash5.pair.com><040b01c9c993$31d3cf30$957b6d90$@com> Message-ID: Oh, but no doubt he'll have it nicely decorated. ; ) k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bette Dillinger To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Heaven ticket available Naw, naw, that's when he has to have the mandatory face mask replaced, Clarice. We love you Jeremy! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: karen.weil at sddt.com To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; gathering at misera.net Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:12:11 -0700 Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Heaven ticket available Complete with ankle monitor. ; ) k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren A. Peace To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 5:57 AM Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Heaven ticket available Is Jaz on day release? Has he a curfew? Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of MichaelHead at HBOSplc.com Sent: 30 April 2009 08:37 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Heaven ticket available you'll be lucky, Heaven have stated the gig finishes '10:30 at the latest'! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Antoni Adamiak Sent: 29 April 2009 22:43 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; The Gathering Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Heaven ticket available I may be the only chelsea fan in the world who currently has a Barcelona ticket but isn't actually going to the game ... I can flog it on the day but it's my insurance policy just in case of any minor disasters ... it would just be my luck to sell on the ticket then find that Jaz has gone down with swine flu or BPF has put his fist through a window etc etc ... here's hoping that KJ decide to make it a midnight show ... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dpeace at bigfoot.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:53:11 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Heaven ticket available I think Rob?s boycotting this gig, partly as a result of his latent homophobia and partly because the cast of High School Musical 3 are appearing in Leicester Square on the same night. Thanks for ticket offer; you?ve already got yours, I thought. Is there someone else who wants to come? Stephen has already expressed an interest, so he has first refusal. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of jon chapman Sent: 29 April 2009 15:10 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Heaven ticket available seedy gay areas ,rob moss is your man.no takers for your ticket,i'll take it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:11:34 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Heaven ticket available As I have on my filthy smoker badge (and yellow fingers, and Steptoe cough) I concur. Also has the advantage of being able to keelhaul anyone getting too feisty. What time? Darren Hungerford, UK On 29 Apr 2009, at 12:44, Chris Williamson wrote: There's a floating pub on the Thames called the Tattershall Castle. Just down the road from the venue (Embankment Station). Pretty cool if it's a sunny evening and all us filthy smokers can sit on the top deck and kill ourselves! Chris -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dpeace at bigfoot.com To: bawhitehead at gmail.com; gathering at misera.net Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:26:05 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Heaven ticket available Hey Brian. No problem ? so you?re the reason it?s sold out! Pleased you were able to get a ticket. Anyway, what?s the plan? Are we all meeting up for a mini-Gathering? Anyone prepared to admit sufficient knowledge of London?s seedy gay underbelly to suggest a pub in which to coalesce? Darren Hungerford, UK From: Brian Whitehead [mailto:bawhitehead at gmail.com] Sent: 29 April 2009 12:00 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Heaven ticket available When I booked this morning it said that there was one ticket left. Sorry Darren I would have bought your spare if I'd realised. Apparently its an early finish (start ?) due to having to prepare for a club night afterwards. Brian. 2009/4/29 Darren A. Peace I still have a spare ticket at cost, if anyone wants it; if I don't hear from anyone today, I'll flog it to someone off list. The gig appears now to be sold out. Darren Hungerford, UK _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surfing the web just got more rewarding. Download the New Internet Explorer 8 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Share your photos with Windows Live Photos ? Free. 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Her love buzz grew strong when I actually kept a straight face as I told her that her cover of "Smells Like Teen Spirit" was better than the original. Ah well, at least she tried with it. But I will always love my mom's "Horses" album......I hear it is Alex's favorite too. BWAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! Go Rimbaud! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: karen.weil at sddt.com To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; gathering at misera.net Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:29:21 -0700 Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview No -- she's *my* mother, Darren. ; ) k.w. San Diego ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren A. Peace To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview Ask Alex about Patti Smith. She?s his mother, don?t you know. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Bette Dillinger Sent: 30 April 2009 01:09 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview Hey! Thanks for posting this article. I only remember from that era sneaking into "Noir Leather" in Royal Oak and being rather taken aback that "Change" was being used to promote their S&M line. Had no idea he lived there....I just knew Patti Smith was in the area and I was wishing somehow that I would see her....but she was in St Clair Shores. Would love to know what little Atticus is like now.....and if he plays the guitar with his pops (for some reason I think the answer is negative, but who knows). Re: Geordie's behavior....just an armchair psychological view....he looks in that interview that Oliver posted to be very used to chaos and violence (and not just from the battles in KJ).....eyes glazing over the second Jaz becomes even slightly more animated.... I think that he learned that at a young age "zoning out" is the best protection? Post Traumatic Stress Disorder? There is a sadness about him, despite his incredible gifts or maybe because of them. Bette ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: gathering at misera.net From: judithmuehlenbeck at freenet.de Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 01:06:25 +0200 Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview This doesn't explain how he makes a crust, but found it interesting - bit of Geordie's family & biography: http://www.anirrationaldomain.net/articles/1992-1996/detroitfreepress281194.html Judith ----- original Nachricht -------- Betreff: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview Gesendet: Di 28 Apr 2009 19:05:39 CEST Von: "Brendan Quinn" What?s the deal with Geordie? Anyone gotten to know him, had a chat, whatevers? The guy?s in my top 10 guitarists, possibly top 5, I totally love his playing, but does anyone know what he?s all about? Lots of attention goes to Jazz and Raven and Youth and fair enough, but what?s the deal with this guy? His sounds totally, totally rock my world, coming from the metal 101 background that I do. But he seems pretty impassive, stoic, I dunno?sits in the Coleman shadow. And yeah, how does he make a crust when he?s not doing KJ stuff, as someone has asked before?? I suppose their back catalog royalties pays a bit, but would it be enough to live on? Perhaps some rich fucker has him retained as a personal bard to play on corporate jets? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of jerry bodkin Sent: Wednesday, 29 April 2009 02:40 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview I beg your pardon? Jelly confused ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stephen.l at live.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:54:12 0000 Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview is that the knowing smile that we have been and continue to be cheated by the system jelbod?..and there is a way out without riotingif you exercise your rights under common law ..nice to know our forfathers put in place a charter to cover what is happening now ..shame the masses are oblivious of it ...and the system makes sure it stays that way ..oh the wisdom of god's holy words ''seek and you will find ,knock and it will be opened unto you '' ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:46:27 0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview his facial expressions aret he same as mine 24 hours a day. Lol Jonn, went back and re-watched it. Perplexed and or confused. Jel ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:28:24 0000 Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview re: geordie 8:30 - 8:46 - his facial expressions aret he same as mine 24 hours a day. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stephen.l at live.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:12:18 0000 Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview regarding loose cannon vid which i have the dvd of isn't it more tribal [ maori ] looking .[ similar to pandemonium ]? but yes i concur that jaz raises a smile and is so right on the money about britain's revolutionary potential > From: fatpotanga at gmail.com > To: gathering at misera.net > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:51:54 0100 > Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview > > I sometimes need a reminder of why i love Killing Joke & that, Mr > Sheppard was an excellent interview. > Even Gerodie got a word in at the beginning :) > > "they [british working class] don't like revolutions - it get's in the > way of tea time" > Fantastic sound bite if ever there was! > > I also love the bit from 8:31 where he forgets how to speak & sounds > like a 4 year old :) > > I know it got slated on here but I'd also forgotten how much I liked > the Loose Cannon vid. > > > > On 28 Apr 2009, at 05:10, B. 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Ciao, kw ----- Original Message ----- From: sade1 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk ; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview Nah, she just likes bands with Big Pauls. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Darren A. Peace To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 5:38:10 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview Is the list about to be deluged with slash porn? Golly. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: 01 May 2009 00:32 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview Oh, don't get me started on my fave KJ member, sade1. ; ) I could get in real trouble. kw San Diego ----- Original Message ----- From: sade1 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview Hm, how 'rough' would you like BP to be? ;~) (though Biggie Pauls does seem the least (affected') From: Karen Weil To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) gathering at misera.net ? Even Big Paul? ; ) k.w. From: sade1 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) RE: Geordie's behavior.. They all look like they've had, um, 'rough' beginnings. The music spells it out also. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bette Dillinger To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 5:08:40 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview Hey! Thanks for posting this article. I only remember from that era sneaking into "Noir Leather" in Royal Oak and being rather taken aback that "Change" was being used to promote their S&M line. Had no idea he lived there....I just knew Patti Smith was in the area and I was wishing somehow that I would see her....but she was in St Clair Shores. Would love to know what little Atticus is like now.....and if he plays the guitar with his pops (for some reason I think the answer is negative, but who knows). Re: Geordie's behavior....just an armchair psychological view....he looks in that interview that Oliver posted to be very used to chaos and violence (and not just from the battles in KJ).....eyes glazing over the second Jaz becomes even slightly more animated.... I think that he learned that at a young age "zoning out" is the best protection? Post Traumatic Stress Disorder? There is a sadness about him, despite his incredible gifts or maybe because of them. Bette ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Fri May 1 13:56:19 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 03:56:19 +1000 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <00ff01c9ca83$201c1e50$0600000a@jo> References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo><013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo> <00ff01c9ca83$201c1e50$0600000a@jo> Message-ID: <332865AAD6F9482790781EC23C3C0286@HeadHigh> Yeah thump it with a maglite and if it gets back up.thump it again, with meaning! ;p _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of jo Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 03:35 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Couldn't you just run it through your security system and check it out? well jo if you don't know what attachments you are sending then perhaps it's best if i delete it _____ From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:22:28 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I haven't a clue Stephen. hi jo please excuse my ignorance but what is a wmv file ...so i know where to put it ...no rude suggestions please _____ Surfing the web just got more rewarding. Download the New Internet Explorer 8 _____ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Fri May 1 13:57:22 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 10:57:22 -0700 Subject: [kj] Isle of Wight update References: <025b01c9ca6b$e9ef8630$bdce9290$@com> <02b501c9ca82$f3c39450$db4abcf0$@com> Message-ID: <47805B1035A44CCE97F58948EEF83C73@edweil> Well, Kevin Rowland did sing that his thoughts were "dirty" ; ) Bukkake -- Good Lord ... k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren A. Peace To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 10:33 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update Heh. Hope Eileen is feeling better after her Bukkake party. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 01 May 2009 16:20 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update Dexy's Midnight Runners? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 00:49 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update ...that's populated by strange people in dungarees with a predilection for human sacrifice and cannibalism. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence Sent: 01 May 2009 15:23 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update err greg it is an island off the coast of england and part of the uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: gregslawson at msn.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 10:02:29 -0400 Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update The Slits and A Certain Ratio in one day? Holy fuck! I'm moving to... (what country is it in?) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: kjlist at live.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:34:18 -0500 Subject: [kj] Isle of Wight update For those who care, KJ have now been formally confirmed for the Isle of Wight Festival, per the web site: http://www.isleofwightfestival.com/big-top.aspx In the tent as part of the Tim Burgess-curated Sunday night with Charlatans, Horrors and the Black Lips, et. al. Sorry to interrupt. You may resume the swine flu discussion and gay jokes. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Rediscover Hotmail?: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry Check it out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Windows LiveT Hotmail?:.more than just e-mail. Check it out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Windows Live Messenger just got better. 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URL: From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Fri May 1 14:01:10 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 04:01:10 +1000 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo><013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo><21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh><37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com><34486.203.210.68.145.1241176018.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><022601c9ca53$d7a1a0c0$86e4e240$@com><43619.203.210.68.145.1241181549.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><024601c9ca63$c022f7e0$4068e7a0$@com> <02a701c9ca7e$a99ae300$fcd0a900$@com> Message-ID: <736D1D4398E641E78B744022DAE3E697@HeadHigh> Try all of the following: Go into Control Panel, Sound (or similar depending on Windows version) and make sure the sound device selected is the add-on card Remove the device entirely from Device Manager, re-install drivers, make sure they are the manufacturer's, and the latest versions Disable the device in Device Manager Make sure there is nothing plugged into the Remove the CMOS battery for 10 mins Update the firmware on the motherboard and sound card Try another PCI slot Reinstalling windows is totally wac for an issue like this (!) Google the issue you have including the sound-card and motherboard model numbers, see if anyone else has that issue with that hardware. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 03:35 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Cheers, but yes we went through that. It still insists on 'reverting' after every shutdown. _____ From: dpeace at bigfoot.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 18:02:51 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Apologies if you're past this, but : is the original soundcard integrated into the motherboard? Even if not, I'd take a look at the BIOS options and see if you can physically select the PCI slot with the new soundcard. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 01 May 2009 16:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. _____ Windows LiveT HotmailR:.more than just e-mail. Check it out. _____ Windows LiveT: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Fri May 1 14:02:35 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 04:02:35 +1000 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <00ff01c9ca83$201c1e50$0600000a@jo> References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo><013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo> <00ff01c9ca83$201c1e50$0600000a@jo> Message-ID: <56C0E52EA1EB4BDAB4416936D2437BD4@HeadHigh> If it was a virus the entire list would be up in arms and lynching Jo dude, it's not a virus :-) _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of jo Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 03:35 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Couldn't you just run it through your security system and check it out? well jo if you don't know what attachments you are sending then perhaps it's best if i delete it _____ From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:22:28 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I haven't a clue Stephen. hi jo please excuse my ignorance but what is a wmv file ...so i know where to put it ...no rude suggestions please _____ Surfing the web just got more rewarding. Download the New Internet Explorer 8 _____ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Fri May 1 14:06:39 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 04:06:39 +1000 Subject: [kj] Isle of Wight update In-Reply-To: <02b501c9ca82$f3c39450$db4abcf0$@com> References: <025b01c9ca6b$e9ef8630$bdce9290$@com> <02b501c9ca82$f3c39450$db4abcf0$@com> Message-ID: <36A7B2BBD1934EA2B3CCE79F79CBF26A@HeadHigh> Yeah I imagine 25 years or whatever has been long enough to find some moist towelettes Darren ;) _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 03:34 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update Heh. Hope Eileen is feeling better after her Bukkake party. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 01 May 2009 16:20 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update Dexy's Midnight Runners? _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 00:49 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update ...that's populated by strange people in dungarees with a predilection for human sacrifice and cannibalism. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence Sent: 01 May 2009 15:23 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update err greg it is an island off the coast of england and part of the uk _____ From: gregslawson at msn.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 10:02:29 -0400 Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update The Slits and A Certain Ratio in one day? Holy fuck! I'm moving to... (what country is it in?) _____ From: kjlist at live.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:34:18 -0500 Subject: [kj] Isle of Wight update For those who care, KJ have now been formally confirmed for the Isle of Wight Festival, per the web site: http://www.isleofwightfestival.com/big-top.aspx In the tent as part of the Tim Burgess-curated Sunday night with Charlatans, Horrors and the Black Lips, et. al. Sorry to interrupt. You may resume the swine flu discussion and gay jokes. _____ Rediscover HotmailR: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry Check it out. _____ Windows LiveT HotmailR:.more than just e-mail. Check it out. _____ Windows Live Messenger just got better. Find out more! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 No virus found in this incoming message. 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Peace) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 19:09:46 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo> <013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo> <21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh> <37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com> <34486.203.210.68.145.1241176018.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <022601c9ca53$d7a1a0c0$86e4e240$@com> <43619.203.210.68.145.1241181549.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <024601c9ca63$c022f7e0$4068e7a0$@com> <02a701c9ca7e$a99ae300$fcd0a900$@com> Message-ID: <02d501c9ca88$02c49350$084db9f0$@com> Next thing I'd look at in that case is whether the BIOS is allocating slots itself, or relying on a "Plug & Play Operating System" to do it. This kind of thing is hugely irritating, and is part of the reason I've moved to a MacBook Pro for music stuff. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 01 May 2009 18:35 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Cheers, but yes we went through that. It still insists on 'reverting' after every shutdown. _____ From: dpeace at bigfoot.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 18:02:51 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Apologies if you're past this, but : is the original soundcard integrated into the motherboard? Even if not, I'd take a look at the BIOS options and see if you can physically select the PCI slot with the new soundcard. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 01 May 2009 16:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. _____ Windows LiveT HotmailR:.more than just e-mail. Check it out. _____ Windows LiveT: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com Fri May 1 14:11:35 2009 From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com (The Exorcist) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 14:11:35 -0400 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo> <013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo> <21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh> Message-ID: <0KIZ005SK97C81G0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Use VLC to play any file. http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ Don't need no stinking Codec's! If you don'y want to use VLC Try this You also might want to consider using something like the klite codec packs (basic) http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Media_Player_Classic.htm Some ppl. don't like it as it installs many many codecs. I've had no issues with it so far though. If used in conjunction with Media Player Classic http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Media_Player_Classic.htm it makes for a very versatile media player. At 07:59 PM 4/30/2009, Stephen Lawrence wrote: >thanks brendan i think i might have problem with >the codec as i can't play wma files ....actually >i deleted it when jo said she couldn't help me > > > >---------- >From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz >To: gathering at misera.net >Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 07:55:27 +1000 >Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > >It?s a Windows Media Video or some such, >standard Windows video kinda file. if you >double-click it on a Windows PC with the default >settings it should open automatically in Windows >Media Player, as long as you have the right >codecs. Please don?t ask me about codecs I?ve >just finished grayeyard shift and walked home >amongst the daywalkers ugh. Creeps the lot of >em, smell of sunlight and coffee ;) > > > >You should never open file attachments from >strangers, but Jo is no stranger than, well me for example, so go ahead. > > > >---------- >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net >[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of jo >Sent: Friday, 1 May 2009 06:22 >To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) >Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > > > >I haven't a clue Stephen. > > > > > >hi jo please excuse my ignorance but what is a >wmv file ...so i know where to put it ...no rude suggestions please > > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.9/2087 >- Release Date: 04/29/09 18:03:00 > > > > >---------- >Windows Live Messenger just got better. >Find out more! >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering at misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com Fri May 1 14:14:55 2009 From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com (The Exorcist) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 14:14:55 -0400 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com> References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo> <013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo> <21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh> <37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com> Message-ID: <0KIZ00M2K9CX1760@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> They have a nero lite version which is decent. I also use a very basic old copy of ashampoo burning studio free. IMGBURN is SWEEEEEEEEET. At 06:38 AM 5/1/2009, Darren A. Peace wrote: >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0210_01C9CA51.4C9BCB10" >Content-Language: en-gb > >Edit > Preferences > Advanced > > >Tick Keep iTunes Music Folder Organised >Untick Copy files to iTunes Music Folder if you don?t want duplicates. > >I have the Copy Files option ticked, so >everything is copied to my central library, and >I can then manually delete the original file, >which could be anywhere on my computer. > >Oh, and Brendan? Nero? Hope there?s something in >that bloatware that you really, really need. I gave up on it at version 5. > >Otherwise, the free ImgBurn >(http://www.imgburn.com/ > ) does pretty much everything I need. > >Darren >Hungerford, UK > >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net >[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence >Sent: 01 May 2009 11:12 >To: gathering at misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > >you made me laugh about i-tunes ....yeah i hate >it also but have to use it to put vinyl and tape >into my computer ...i hate the way it duplicates >everything meaning i have to delete loads > > > Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 21:55:33 +1200 > > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz > > To: gathering at misera.net > > Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > > > > Multimedia programs do in a sense fight each other, insofar as the file > > associations contention. Windows keeps a list of which programs to use to > > open particular file types...so by default when you double-click that kind > > of file, Windows will know what to do with it (open .doc files with M$ > > Word for example...). > > > > Many multimedia apps ask you when you install them if you want to > > associate the application with ALL multimedia types (that it is compatible > > with)...such as mp3 / mp4, avi, wmv, flac, playing DVDs etc etc (there's > > loads of formats) and it's easy to overlook this setting when zipping > > through the install screens. I recently did a full install of the software > > that came with my DVD burner and it included a flaming media player > > (Nero), on top of all the other ones I have...as if I needed another one > > FFS... > > > > Can become a bit messy after a while as well, once you have several > > applications on your PC that aim to do the same thing, some of which will > > attempt to load automatically when your PC starts, automatically update, > > and many of which share core Windows system files & settings(dlls etc). > > > > Good rule of thumb is to pick a decent one that covers most bases and > > ignore the others. You probably don't need Quicktime on a Windows PC for > > example, avi files can be opened in VLC or Win Media Player. (And good > > luck if you're brave enough to use iTunes - we hates it precious ;p) > > > > If you want to change the file associations let me know, or Google it if > > you want, there's multiple ways to do it, pretty standard on Windows from > > 2000 on. Or you can simply re-install the player you want to use and let > > it reclaim the associations. > > > > The less programs you have on Windows the quicker it goes and less messy > > it gets, generally. > > > > > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Stephen Lawrence > > > wrote: > > > > > >> thanks bo > > >> ? to be honest i don't know which version i have ..i'm a bit wary of > > >> downloads and installations ..i was once told that programs can''fight > > >> '' > > >> with each other whether that is true i don;t know > > >> ? i have vlc and real player and win amp but prefer media player for > > >> the > > >> database > > > > > > Both and, programs cannot as such interfere with eachother, but codecs > > > and dll's can and will at every given chance. This is why i > > > recommended smplayer and/or vlc, since they both use their own sets of > > > codecs instead of using (and cluttering) the standard DirectShow set > > > that Windows Media Player and virtually every other media player use. > > > > > > To find the version of nearly any Windows program, click "Help" and > > > then "About". > > > > > > Also, if you already have vlc, you should be able to play WMA and WMV > > > with it. Just make sure you have the latest version from > > > www.videolan.org and you're all set. > > > > > > > > > b > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Gathering mailing list > > > Gathering at misera.net > > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering at misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > >---------- >Windows Live Messenger just got better. >Find out more! >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering at misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Fri May 1 14:16:36 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 11:16:36 -0700 Subject: [kj] (so OT) Dutch Royals References: <569277.11567.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><005501c9c9c6$65468dc0$2fd3a940$@com> <014801c9c9f4$83600100$8a200300$@com> Message-ID: LOL! You might be right on that one. Quite frankly, I found him one of the most annoying things in that film (and there were a lot). "All I can think of is an Atreides I want to kill!" He should have been thinking about taking an acting lesson. ; ) k.w. California ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren A. Peace To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [kj] (so OT) Dutch Royals I'd prefer that to Sting in flying V underpants, frankly. However, I think he now looks more like a Sandworm. http://images.mmosite.com/photo/2007/11/01/sandwormX27261u476.jpg Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: 01 May 2009 00:31 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (so OT) Dutch Royals Minus the grostesque floating apparatus. ; ) k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Brendan Quinn To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [kj] (so OT) Dutch Royals Boy George is looking more like Baron Harkonnen every day. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGX2xSjND_0 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: Friday, 1 May 2009 05:04 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] (so OT) Dutch Royals That's absolutely appalling. Here's some light relief: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2403844.ece Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: 30 April 2009 18:34 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: [kj] (so OT) Dutch Royals Anyone else see this: updated 16 minutes ago Man charged in attempted attack on Dutch royals ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.9/2087 - Release Date: 04/29/09 18:03:00 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From folk.devil at hotmail.com Fri May 1 14:19:01 2009 From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 11:19:01 -0700 Subject: [kj] Isle of Wight update In-Reply-To: <2FAE673864884122A3EFEFCB4B2F1FEB@HeadHigh> References: <2FAE673864884122A3EFEFCB4B2F1FEB@HeadHigh> Message-ID: Excellent! But more theremin! :D From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz To: gathering at misera.net Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 03:48:23 +1000 Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update Kick ass! Check out this fucking epic mashup someone just sent me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tprMEs-zfQA&eurl=http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,28348,25407968-5014239,00.html&feature=player_embedded From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:48 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DIFuQq0r6M From: gregslawson at msn.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 11:07:56 -0400 Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update Thanks--I keep seeing a concert from there on cable TV but didn't know where it was. From: stephen.l at live.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 14:23:23 +0000 Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update err greg it is an island off the coast of england and part of the uk Rediscover Hotmail?: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 _________________________________________________________________ Rediscover Hotmail?: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Mobile2_042009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Fri May 1 14:19:01 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 11:19:01 -0700 Subject: [kj] Isle of Wight update References: <025b01c9ca6b$e9ef8630$bdce9290$@com> <374140CFACE147498A105AE4F9F48E4D@HeadHigh> Message-ID: <15F40C42D44E40F3A184DB87CC22D6B8@edweil> Oh, I didn't realize we were doing global karaoke today, Brenda. I would have dressed for the occasion. ; ) Next up: Kajagoogoo. k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Brendan Quinn To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update To rai lou rai lou rai eh? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 03:27 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update "Come On Eileen ... You're Dinner." (*groan ...* Just standard Vegas lounge humor) ; ) Cheers, k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Brendan Quinn To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 8:19 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update Dexy's Midnight Runners? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 00:49 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update ...that's populated by strange people in dungarees with a predilection for human sacrifice and cannibalism. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence Sent: 01 May 2009 15:23 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update err greg it is an island off the coast of england and part of the uk ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gregslawson at msn.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 10:02:29 -0400 Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update The Slits and A Certain Ratio in one day? Holy fuck! I'm moving to... (what country is it in?) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kjlist at live.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:34:18 -0500 Subject: [kj] Isle of Wight update For those who care, KJ have now been formally confirmed for the Isle of Wight Festival, per the web site: http://www.isleofwightfestival.com/big-top.aspx In the tent as part of the Tim Burgess-curated Sunday night with Charlatans, Horrors and the Black Lips, et. al. Sorry to interrupt. You may resume the swine flu discussion and gay jokes. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rediscover Hotmail?: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry Check it out. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Windows LiveT Hotmail?:.more than just e-mail. Check it out. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Windows Live Messenger just got better. Find out more! 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URL: From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Fri May 1 14:19:49 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 04:19:49 +1000 Subject: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview In-Reply-To: <13F5B8E93A554CAA97A647808904B1A4@edweil> References: <03be01c9c933$60d95260$228bf720$@com> <13F5B8E93A554CAA97A647808904B1A4@edweil> Message-ID: Listen to Sinead O'Connor's All Apologies next time you need to barf something up. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 03:52 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview Oh, damn, Bette. Well, please invite us over for dinner now and then, OK? K.W. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bette Dillinger To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview Yeah, I have read of Alex's love of Ms Smith. BTW, she adopted me yesterday and cut you three out of the will. Her love buzz grew strong when I actually kept a straight face as I told her that her cover of "Smells Like Teen Spirit" was better than the original. Ah well, at least she tried with it. But I will always love my mom's "Horses" album......I hear it is Alex's favorite too. BWAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! Go Rimbaud! _____ From: karen.weil at sddt.com To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; gathering at misera.net Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:29:21 -0700 Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview No -- she's *my* mother, Darren. ; ) k.w. San Diego ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren A. Peace To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview Ask Alex about Patti Smith. She's his mother, don't you know. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Bette Dillinger Sent: 30 April 2009 01:09 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview Hey! Thanks for posting this article. I only remember from that era sneaking into "Noir Leather" in Royal Oak and being rather taken aback that "Change" was being used to promote their S&M line. Had no idea he lived there....I just knew Patti Smith was in the area and I was wishing somehow that I would see her....but she was in St Clair Shores. Would love to know what little Atticus is like now.....and if he plays the guitar with his pops (for some reason I think the answer is negative, but who knows). Re: Geordie's behavior....just an armchair psychological view....he looks in that interview that Oliver posted to be very used to chaos and violence (and not just from the battles in KJ).....eyes glazing over the second Jaz becomes even slightly more animated.... I think that he learned that at a young age "zoning out" is the best protection? Post Traumatic Stress Disorder? There is a sadness about him, despite his incredible gifts or maybe because of them. Bette _____ To: gathering at misera.net From: judithmuehlenbeck at freenet.de Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 01:06:25 +0200 Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview This doesn't explain how he makes a crust, but found it interesting - bit of Geordie's family & biography: http://www.anirrationaldomain.net/articles/1992-1996/detroitfreepress281194. html Judith ----- original Nachricht -------- Betreff: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview Gesendet: Di 28 Apr 2009 19:05:39 CEST Von: "Brendan Quinn" What's the deal with Geordie? Anyone gotten to know him, had a chat, whatevers? The guy's in my top 10 guitarists, possibly top 5, I totally love his playing, but does anyone know what he's all about? Lots of attention goes to Jazz and Raven and Youth and fair enough, but what's the deal with this guy? His sounds totally, totally rock my world, coming from the metal 101 background that I do. But he seems pretty impassive, stoic, I dunno.sits in the Coleman shadow. And yeah, how does he make a crust when he's not doing KJ stuff, as someone has asked before.? I suppose their back catalog royalties pays a bit, but would it be enough to live on? Perhaps some rich fucker has him retained as a personal bard to play on corporate jets? _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of jerry bodkin Sent: Wednesday, 29 April 2009 02:40 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview I beg your pardon? Jelly confused _____ From: stephen.l at live.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:54:12 0000 Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview is that the knowing smile that we have been and continue to be cheated by the system jelbod?..and there is a way out without riotingif you exercise your rights under common law ..nice to know our forfathers put in place a charter to cover what is happening now ..shame the masses are oblivious of it ...and the system makes sure it stays that way ..oh the wisdom of god's holy words ''seek and you will find ,knock and it will be opened unto you '' _____ From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:46:27 0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview his facial expressions aret he same as mine 24 hours a day. Lol Jonn, went back and re-watched it. Perplexed and or confused. Jel _____ From: jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:28:24 0000 Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview re: geordie 8:30 - 8:46 - his facial expressions aret he same as mine 24 hours a day. _____ From: stephen.l at live.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:12:18 0000 Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview regarding loose cannon vid which i have the dvd of isn't it more tribal [ maori ] looking .[ similar to pandemonium ]? but yes i concur that jaz raises a smile and is so right on the money about britain's revolutionary potential > From: fatpotanga at gmail.com > To: gathering at misera.net > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:51:54 0100 > Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview > > I sometimes need a reminder of why i love Killing Joke & that, Mr > Sheppard was an excellent interview. > Even Gerodie got a word in at the beginning :) > > "they [british working class] don't like revolutions - it get's in the > way of tea time" > Fantastic sound bite if ever there was! > > I also love the bit from 8:31 where he forgets how to speak & sounds > like a 4 year old :) > > I know it got slated on here but I'd also forgotten how much I liked > the Loose Cannon vid. > > > > On 28 Apr 2009, at 05:10, B. 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URL: From killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com Fri May 1 14:22:26 2009 From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com (The Exorcist) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 14:22:26 -0400 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <34486.203.210.68.145.1241176018.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo> <013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo> <21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh> <37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com> <34486.203.210.68.145.1241176018.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <0KIZ00ALY9PFD690@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> For any IPOD users who wanna dump itunes... Use Floola, Just save the file to your Ipod and you can run it from ANY PC. It's easy, safe and does not make any firmware changes. http://www.floola.com/modules/wiwimod/ And for those that don't mind bypassing the IPOD software. Use Rockbox (make sure it's compatible with your ipod first!!!!) I've installed it on 3 ipods so far and no problems whatsoever. The best things is that it plays many formats, a crapload of plugins, customization up the wazooo and plug it in to any computer and just copy and paste the files.... http://www.rockbox.org/ WARNING... RUNNING THE ROCKBOX FIRMWARE MAY VOID YOUR WARRANTY. USE IT AT YOUR OWN RISK.... At 07:06 AM 5/1/2009, Brendan wrote: >Yeah I know you can do it, I found that setting immediately and enabled >it, just couldn't believe it started doing it automatically, and one of >the reasons it pi$$ed me off is that I'd just spent weeks renaming and >retagging my mp3 files. WEEKS. My OCD wouldn't sit still until I had >everything in my particular format, band name space hyphen space year >space hyphen space album name space hypen space track number space hyphen >space etc. LOL. > >Also generally using the thing - my reaction was, to use a current geek >meme - DO NOT WANT, or FAIL...and performance was pretty $hite too...had a >single core CPU back then. > >Nup. Hated it. I also disliked it because of the iPod hype, I am player >agnostic, no way do I want to be tied in to a fucking Applie application. >So typical of that company, try to lock down the customers' choice and >over-price with marketing hype and branding. Ugh. (And no it's not an >anti-Apple pro-M$ rant, it's merely an anti-Apple rant...). There was some >other drama about not being able to easily share your files with friends' >PCs etc. > >Re Nero...I'm lazy with multimedia stuff, more of a gamer / hardware fan, >never took the time to investigate that. Would be nice to do away with >Nero actually, I have a rebuild coming up in a month or so so I wll do it >then. I just assumed it was a good idea to use the software that came with >the drive, and Nero has always been easy to use. Cheers. > > > Edit > Preferences > Advanced > > > > > > > > > Tick Keep iTunes Music Folder Organised > > > > Untick Copy files to iTunes Music Folder if you don?t want duplicates. > > > > > > > > I have the Copy Files option ticked, so everything is copied to my central > > library, and I can then manually delete the original file, which could be > > anywhere on my computer. > > > > > > > > Oh, and Brendan? Nero? Hope there?s something in that bloatware that you > > really, really need. I gave up on it at version 5. > > > > > > > > Otherwise, the free ImgBurn (http://www.imgburn.com/ ) does pretty much > > everything I need. > > > > > > > > Darren > > > > Hungerford, UK > > > > > > > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > > On > > Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence > > Sent: 01 May 2009 11:12 > > To: gathering at misera.net > > Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > > > > > > > > you made me laugh about i-tunes ....yeah i hate it also but have to use it > > to put vinyl and tape into my computer ...i hate the way it duplicates > > everything meaning i have to delete loads > > > >> Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 21:55:33 +1200 > >> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz > >> To: gathering at misera.net > >> Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > >> > >> Multimedia programs do in a sense fight each other, insofar as the file > >> associations contention. Windows keeps a list of which programs to use > >> to > >> open particular file types...so by default when you double-click that > >> kind > >> of file, Windows will know what to do with it (open .doc files with M$ > >> Word for example...). > >> > >> Many multimedia apps ask you when you install them if you want to > >> associate the application with ALL multimedia types (that it is > >> compatible > >> with)...such as mp3 / mp4, avi, wmv, flac, playing DVDs etc etc (there's > >> loads of formats) and it's easy to overlook this setting when zipping > >> through the install screens. I recently did a full install of the > >> software > >> that came with my DVD burner and it included a flaming media player > >> (Nero), on top of all the other ones I have...as if I needed another one > >> FFS... > >> > >> Can become a bit messy after a while as well, once you have several > >> applications on your PC that aim to do the same thing, some of which > >> will > >> attempt to load automatically when your PC starts, automatically update, > >> and many of which share core Windows system files & settings(dlls etc). > >> > >> Good rule of thumb is to pick a decent one that covers most bases and > >> ignore the others. You probably don't need Quicktime on a Windows PC for > >> example, avi files can be opened in VLC or Win Media Player. (And good > >> luck if you're brave enough to use iTunes - we hates it precious ;p) > >> > >> If you want to change the file associations let me know, or Google it if > >> you want, there's multiple ways to do it, pretty standard on Windows > >> from > >> 2000 on. Or you can simply re-install the player you want to use and let > >> it reclaim the associations. > >> > >> The less programs you have on Windows the quicker it goes and less messy > >> it gets, generally. > >> > >> > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Stephen Lawrence > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> >> thanks bo > >> >> ? to be honest i don't know which version i have ..i'm a bit wary of > >> >> downloads and installations ..i was once told that programs > >> can''fight > >> >> '' > >> >> with each other whether that is true i don;t know > >> >> ? i have vlc and real player and win amp but prefer media player for > >> >> the > >> >> database > >> > > >> > Both and, programs cannot as such interfere with eachother, but codecs > >> > and dll's can and will at every given chance. This is why i > >> > recommended smplayer and/or vlc, since they both use their own sets of > >> > codecs instead of using (and cluttering) the standard DirectShow set > >> > that Windows Media Player and virtually every other media player use. > >> > > >> > To find the version of nearly any Windows program, click "Help" and > >> > then "About". > >> > > >> > Also, if you already have vlc, you should be able to play WMA and WMV > >> > with it. Just make sure you have the latest version from > >> > www.videolan.org and you're all set. > >> > > >> > > >> > b > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Gathering mailing list > >> > Gathering at misera.net > >> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > >> > > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Gathering mailing list > >> Gathering at misera.net > >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > _____ > > > > Windows Live Messenger just got better. 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At 07:13 AM 5/1/2009, Bo Krogsgaard wrote: >On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Brendan wrote: > > > My OCD wouldn't sit still until I had > > everything in my particular format, band name space hyphen space year > > space hyphen space album name space hypen space track number space hyphen > > space etc. LOL. > >www.mp3tag.de - you will thank me for it. > > >b >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering at misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Fri May 1 14:24:41 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 11:24:41 -0700 Subject: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugmanon the economic crisis References: <2A08447174E44AB0AD0433DBCDBED5F9@HeadHigh><49F94785.1070501@sbcglobal.net><49F94DCD.5000306@sbcglobal.net><49F9504D.3050901@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <32AD4D68E0A34490873A370C0F889E05@edweil> *Sigh ...* Steven: I was only kidding. Really. Truly. Seriously. Cheers, k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lawrence To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugmanon the economic crisis oh dear karen what is sexy about a lapdog to the corporate slave masters > From: karen.weil at sddt.com > To: gathering at misera.net > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:25:04 -0700 > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman on the economic crisis > > But they are *sexy,* aren't they? ; ) > > k.w. > SoCal > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" > > Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 12:16 AM > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman on the > economic crisis > > > > Also, The Daily Beast did a slightly tongue-in-cheek "Ten Hot Economists" > > feature that also has Krugman, Roubini, James K. Galbraith, etc., in it: > > > > http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-04-13/10-hot-economists/ > > > > > > Unfortunately they did not put Dean Baker in this when, like Roubini, he > > also correctly predicted the housing asset bubble ahead of time. Baker has > > a running blog here: http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/beat_the_press & > > also writes for the Guardian UK from what I understand. > > > > -Oliver > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering at misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos ? Free. 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Lots of plugins and customization without all the bloat. http://www.foobar2000.org/?page=Download http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foobar2000 At 08:39 AM 5/1/2009, Brendan wrote: >At the end of the day I want a little piece of inconspicuous software that >plays media files & makes playlists, and maybe has an equaliser. Something >free, unobtrusive, won't constantly try to wrest my file associations over >to the dark side, install Google fucking toolbar, take 10 mins to install, >loads up the iStore every time it opens, reminding me that the kids are >all listening to Rhianna these days - yay - and sinks its hooks into the >operating system so that if I try to remove it I have to rip half my OS's >brain-stem out, set up a hearrtbeat back to the Deathstar in order to >*update* itself periodically... > >In fact I dislike Windows Media Player as well for similar reasons, but it >never tried to steal our files, precious, and make them it's own *growl* > > > Heh. > > > > The help was for Stephen; I'm clear that your anti-Apple bias means that > > you'd rather see Air Supply in concert than load up iTunes. > > > > Darren > > Hungerford, UK > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > > On > > Behalf Of Brendan > > Sent: 01 May 2009 12:07 > > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > > Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > > > > Yeah I know you can do it, I found that setting immediately and enabled > > it, just couldn't believe it started doing it automatically, and one of > > the reasons it pi$$ed me off is that I'd just spent weeks renaming and > > retagging my mp3 files. WEEKS. My OCD wouldn't sit still until I had > > everything in my particular format, band name space hyphen space year > > space hyphen space album name space hypen space track number space hyphen > > space etc. LOL. > > > > Also generally using the thing - my reaction was, to use a current geek > > meme - DO NOT WANT, or FAIL...and performance was pretty $hite too...had a > > single core CPU back then. > > > > Nup. Hated it. I also disliked it because of the iPod hype, I am player > > agnostic, no way do I want to be tied in to a fucking Applie application. > > So typical of that company, try to lock down the customers' choice and > > over-price with marketing hype and branding. Ugh. (And no it's not an > > anti-Apple pro-M$ rant, it's merely an anti-Apple rant...). There was some > > other drama about not being able to easily share your files with friends' > > PCs etc. > > > > Re Nero...I'm lazy with multimedia stuff, more of a gamer / hardware fan, > > never took the time to investigate that. Would be nice to do away with > > Nero actually, I have a rebuild coming up in a month or so so I wll do it > > then. I just assumed it was a good idea to use the software that came with > > the drive, and Nero has always been easy to use. Cheers. > > > >> Edit > Preferences > Advanced > > >> > >> > >> > >> Tick Keep iTunes Music Folder Organised > >> > >> Untick Copy files to iTunes Music Folder if you don?t want duplicates. > >> > >> > >> > >> I have the Copy Files option ticked, so everything is copied to my > >> central > >> library, and I can then manually delete the original file, which could > >> be > >> anywhere on my computer. > >> > >> > >> > >> Oh, and Brendan? Nero? Hope there?s something in that bloatware that you > >> really, really need. I gave up on it at version 5. > >> > >> > >> > >> Otherwise, the free ImgBurn (http://www.imgburn.com/ ) does pretty much > >> everything I need. > >> > >> > >> > >> Darren > >> > >> Hungerford, UK > >> > >> > >> > >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > >> On > >> Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence > >> Sent: 01 May 2009 11:12 > >> To: gathering at misera.net > >> Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > >> > >> > >> > >> you made me laugh about i-tunes ....yeah i hate it also but have to use > >> it > >> to put vinyl and tape into my computer ...i hate the way it duplicates > >> everything meaning i have to delete loads > >> > >>> Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 21:55:33 +1200 > >>> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz > >>> To: gathering at misera.net > >>> Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > >>> > >>> Multimedia programs do in a sense fight each other, insofar as the file > >>> associations contention. Windows keeps a list of which programs to use > >>> to > >>> open particular file types...so by default when you double-click that > >>> kind > >>> of file, Windows will know what to do with it (open .doc files with M$ > >>> Word for example...). > >>> > >>> Many multimedia apps ask you when you install them if you want to > >>> associate the application with ALL multimedia types (that it is > >>> compatible > >>> with)...such as mp3 / mp4, avi, wmv, flac, playing DVDs etc etc > >>> (there's > >>> loads of formats) and it's easy to overlook this setting when zipping > >>> through the install screens. I recently did a full install of the > >>> software > >>> that came with my DVD burner and it included a flaming media player > >>> (Nero), on top of all the other ones I have...as if I needed another > >>> one > >>> FFS... > >>> > >>> Can become a bit messy after a while as well, once you have several > >>> applications on your PC that aim to do the same thing, some of which > >>> will > >>> attempt to load automatically when your PC starts, automatically > >>> update, > >>> and many of which share core Windows system files & settings(dlls etc). > >>> > >>> Good rule of thumb is to pick a decent one that covers most bases and > >>> ignore the others. You probably don't need Quicktime on a Windows PC > >>> for > >>> example, avi files can be opened in VLC or Win Media Player. (And good > >>> luck if you're brave enough to use iTunes - we hates it precious ;p) > >>> > >>> If you want to change the file associations let me know, or Google it > >>> if > >>> you want, there's multiple ways to do it, pretty standard on Windows > >>> from > >>> 2000 on. Or you can simply re-install the player you want to use and > >>> let > >>> it reclaim the associations. > >>> > >>> The less programs you have on Windows the quicker it goes and less > >>> messy > >>> it gets, generally. > >>> > >>> > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Stephen Lawrence > >>> > wrote: > >>> > > >>> >> thanks bo > >>> >> ? to be honest i don't know which version i have ..i'm a bit wary > >>> of > >>> >> downloads and installations ..i was once told that programs > >>> can''fight > >>> >> '' > >>> >> with each other whether that is true i don;t know > >>> >> ? i have vlc and real player and win amp but prefer media player > >>> for > >>> >> the > >>> >> database > >>> > > >>> > Both and, programs cannot as such interfere with eachother, but > >>> codecs > >>> > and dll's can and will at every given chance. This is why i > >>> > recommended smplayer and/or vlc, since they both use their own sets > >>> of > >>> > codecs instead of using (and cluttering) the standard DirectShow set > >>> > that Windows Media Player and virtually every other media player use. > >>> > > >>> > To find the version of nearly any Windows program, click "Help" and > >>> > then "About". > >>> > > >>> > Also, if you already have vlc, you should be able to play WMA and WMV > >>> > with it. Just make sure you have the latest version from > >>> > www.videolan.org and you're all set. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > b > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> > Gathering mailing list > >>> > Gathering at misera.net > >>> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Gathering mailing list > >>> Gathering at misera.net > >>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > >> > >> _____ > >> > >> Windows Live Messenger just got better. 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URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Fri May 1 14:29:21 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 11:29:21 -0700 Subject: [kj] Isle of Wight update References: <2FAE673864884122A3EFEFCB4B2F1FEB@HeadHigh> Message-ID: <2477BEBF94B84279B8D3268F6D4937FF@edweil> Epic, indeed. Thanks, Brendan. k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Brendan Quinn To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update Kick ass! Check out this fucking epic mashup someone just sent me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tprMEs-zfQA&eurl=http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,28348,25407968-5014239,00.html&feature=player_embedded ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:48 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DIFuQq0r6M ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: gregslawson at msn.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 11:07:56 -0400 Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update Thanks--I keep seeing a concert from there on cable TV but didn't know where it was. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: stephen.l at live.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 14:23:23 +0000 Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update err greg it is an island off the coast of england and part of the uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Rediscover Hotmail?: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. 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It still >insists on 'reverting' after every shutdown. > > > >---------- >From: dpeace at bigfoot.com >To: gathering at misera.net >Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 18:02:51 +0100 >Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > >Apologies if you?re past this, but : is the >original soundcard integrated into the >motherboard? Even if not, I?d take a look at the >BIOS options and see if you can physically >select the PCI slot with the new soundcard. > > > >Darren > >Hungerford, UK > > > >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net >[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil >Sent: 01 May 2009 16:24 >To: gathering at misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > > > >iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! >That little ficker tried taking over every sound >device on my pc. It is now gone! >Windows, still insists on using its own primary >s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the >original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ >Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. > > >---------- >Windows Live? Hotmail?: more than just e-mail. >Check >it out. > > >---------- >Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. >Check >it out. >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering at misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Fri May 1 14:34:15 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 11:34:15 -0700 Subject: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview References: <843327.2940.qm@web110205.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Good idea, Bette. Glad we have *our* fan club (raunchy thoughts are an additional charge, however -- but well worth it.) ; ) Have a good day in Detroit. Cheers, k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bette Dillinger To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview We know Karen, only we know......BPF escaped the rough beginnings.....I have many raunchy thoughts in my mind right now, but for the sake of the list, I shall refrain. bwahhh! Bette ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: karen.weil at sddt.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 11:21:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview Even Big Paul? ; ) k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: sade1 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview RE: Geordie's behavior.. They all look like they've had, um, 'rough' beginnings. The music spells it out also. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bette Dillinger To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 5:08:40 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview Hey! Thanks for posting this article. I only remember from that era sneaking into "Noir Leather" in Royal Oak and being rather taken aback that "Change" was being used to promote their S&M line. Had no idea he lived there....I just knew Patti Smith was in the area and I was wishing somehow that I would see her....but she was in St Clair Shores. Would love to know what little Atticus is like now.....and if he plays the guitar with his pops (for some reason I think the answer is negative, but who knows). Re: Geordie's behavior....just an armchair psychological view....he looks in that interview that Oliver posted to be very used to chaos and violence (and not just from the battles in KJ).....eyes glazing over the second Jaz becomes even slightly more animated.... I think that he learned that at a young age "zoning out" is the best protection? Post Traumatic Stress Disorder? There is a sadness about him, despite his incredible gifts or maybe because of them. Bette ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: gathering at misera.net From: judithmuehlenbeck at freenet.de Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 01:06:25 +0200 Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview This doesn't explain how he makes a crust, but found it interesting - bit of Geordie's family & biography: http://www.anirrationaldomain.net/articles/1992-1996/detroitfreepress281194.html Judith ----- original Nachricht -------- Betreff: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview Gesendet: Di 28 Apr 2009 19:05:39 CEST Von: "Brendan Quinn" What?s the deal with Geordie? Anyone gotten to know him, had a chat, whatevers? The guy?s in my top 10 guitarists, possibly top 5, I totally love his playing, but does anyone know what he?s all about? Lots of attention goes to Jazz and Raven and Youth and fair enough, but what?s the deal with this guy? His sounds totally, totally rock my world, coming from the metal 101 background that I do. But he seems pretty impassive, stoic, I dunno?sits in the Coleman shadow. And yeah, how does he make a crust when he?s not doing KJ stuff, as someone has asked before?? I suppose their back catalog royalties pays a bit, but would it be enough to live on? Perhaps some rich fucker has him retained as a personal bard to play on corporate jets? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of jerry bodkin Sent: Wednesday, 29 April 2009 02:40 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview I beg your pardon? Jelly confused ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stephen.l at live.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:54:12 0000 Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview is that the knowing smile that we have been and continue to be cheated by the system jelbod?..and there is a way out without riotingif you exercise your rights under common law ..nice to know our forfathers put in place a charter to cover what is happening now ..shame the masses are oblivious of it ...and the system makes sure it stays that way ..oh the wisdom of god's holy words ''seek and you will find ,knock and it will be opened unto you '' ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:46:27 0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview his facial expressions aret he same as mine 24 hours a day. Lol Jonn, went back and re-watched it. Perplexed and or confused. Jel ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:28:24 0000 Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview re: geordie 8:30 - 8:46 - his facial expressions aret he same as mine 24 hours a day. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stephen.l at live.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:12:18 0000 Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview regarding loose cannon vid which i have the dvd of isn't it more tribal [ maori ] looking .[ similar to pandemonium ]? but yes i concur that jaz raises a smile and is so right on the money about britain's revolutionary potential > From: fatpotanga at gmail.com > To: gathering at misera.net > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:51:54 0100 > Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview > > I sometimes need a reminder of why i love Killing Joke & that, Mr > Sheppard was an excellent interview. > Even Gerodie got a word in at the beginning :) > > "they [british working class] don't like revolutions - it get's in the > way of tea time" > Fantastic sound bite if ever there was! > > I also love the bit from 8:31 where he forgets how to speak & sounds > like a 4 year old :) > > I know it got slated on here but I'd also forgotten how much I liked > the Loose Cannon vid. > > > > On 28 Apr 2009, at 05:10, B. 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It still >insists on 'reverting' after every shutdown. > > > >---------- >From: dpeace at bigfoot.com >To: gathering at misera.net >Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 18:02:51 +0100 >Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead >Apologies if you?re past this, but : is the >original soundcard integrated into the >motherboard? Even if not, I?d take a look at the >BIOS options and see if you can physically >select the PCI slot with the new soundcard. > >Darren >Hungerford, UK > >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net >[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil >Sent: 01 May 2009 16:24 >To: gathering at misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > >iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! >That little ficker tried taking over every sound >device on my pc. It is now gone! >Windows, still insists on using its own primary >s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the >original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ >Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. > > >---------- >Windows Live? Hotmail?: more than just e-mail. >Check >it out. > > >---------- >Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. >Check >it out. > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: >270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering at misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From folk.devil at hotmail.com Fri May 1 14:35:41 2009 From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 11:35:41 -0700 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: yep, did both. Will try a couple of the things Brendan mentioned. Thx. From: Phil.Tofield at uk.nyklogistics.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 19:11:10 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I use a delta 1010, never had that problem. Have you tried disabling the on board soundcard in the bios? Updating the drivers? From: folk devil [mailto:folk.devil at hotmail.com] Sent: 01 May 2009 18:35 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Cheers, but yes we went through that. It still insists on 'reverting' after every shutdown. From: dpeace at bigfoot.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 18:02:51 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Apologies if you?re past this, but : is the original soundcard integrated into the motherboard? Even if not, I?d take a look at the BIOS options and see if you can physically select the PCI slot with the new soundcard. 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Peace wrote: >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02D6_01C9CA90.6488FB50" >Content-Language: en-gb > >Next thing I?d look at in that case is whether >the BIOS is allocating slots itself, or relying >on a ?Plug & Play Operating System? to do it. >This kind of thing is hugely irritating, and is >part of the reason I?ve moved to a MacBook Pro for music stuff. > >Darren >Hungerford, UK > >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net >[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil >Sent: 01 May 2009 18:35 >To: gathering at misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > >Cheers, but yes we went through that. It still >insists on 'reverting' after every shutdown. > > > >---------- >From: dpeace at bigfoot.com >To: gathering at misera.net >Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 18:02:51 +0100 >Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead >Apologies if you?re past this, but : is the >original soundcard integrated into the >motherboard? Even if not, I?d take a look at the >BIOS options and see if you can physically >select the PCI slot with the new soundcard. > >Darren >Hungerford, UK > >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net >[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil >Sent: 01 May 2009 16:24 >To: gathering at misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > >iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! >That little ficker tried taking over every sound >device on my pc. It is now gone! >Windows, still insists on using its own primary >s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the >original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ >Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. > > >---------- >Windows Live? 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From: dpeace at bigfoot.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 19:09:46 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Next thing I?d look at in that case is whether the BIOS is allocating slots itself, or relying on a ?Plug & Play Operating System? to do it. This kind of thing is hugely irritating, and is part of the reason I?ve moved to a MacBook Pro for music stuff. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 01 May 2009 18:35 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Cheers, but yes we went through that. It still insists on 'reverting' after every shutdown. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_more_042009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Peace) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 19:43:07 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <736D1D4398E641E78B744022DAE3E697@HeadHigh> References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo><013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo><21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh><37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com><34486.203.210.68.145.1241176018.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><022601c9ca53$d7a1a0c0$86e4e240$@com><43619.203.210.68.145.1241181549.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><024601c9ca63$c022f7e0$4068e7a0$@com> <02a701c9ca7e$a99ae300$fcd0a900$@com> <736D1D4398E641E78B744022DAE3E697@HeadHigh> Message-ID: <033401c9ca8c$ab695910$023c0b30$@com> All fine advice apart from Remove the CMOS battery for 10 mins I'd only do this if a) you have made accurate notes of all your BIOS settings and b) are keen to spend hours reoptimising things and getting any RAID arrays & ESATA drives working again. Reason I went for the BIOS PCI allocations first is because this recently sorted an unrecognised tape drive issue. Best of luck! Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 01 May 2009 19:01 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Try all of the following: Go into Control Panel, Sound (or similar depending on Windows version) and make sure the sound device selected is the add-on card Remove the device entirely from Device Manager, re-install drivers, make sure they are the manufacturer's, and the latest versions Disable the device in Device Manager Make sure there is nothing plugged into the Remove the CMOS battery for 10 mins Update the firmware on the motherboard and sound card Try another PCI slot Reinstalling windows is totally wac for an issue like this (!) Google the issue you have including the sound-card and motherboard model numbers, see if anyone else has that issue with that hardware. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 03:35 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Cheers, but yes we went through that. It still insists on 'reverting' after every shutdown. _____ From: dpeace at bigfoot.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 18:02:51 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Apologies if you're past this, but : is the original soundcard integrated into the motherboard? Even if not, I'd take a look at the BIOS options and see if you can physically select the PCI slot with the new soundcard. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 01 May 2009 16:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. _____ Windows LiveT HotmailR:.more than just e-mail. Check it out. _____ Windows LiveT: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpeace at bigfoot.com Fri May 1 14:50:41 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 19:50:41 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <0KIZ003C3AGA75T0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo> <013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo> <21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh> <37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com> <34486.203.210.68.145.1241176018.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <022601c9ca53$d7a1a0c0$86e4e240$@com> <43619.203.210.68.145.1241181549.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <024601c9ca63$c022f7e0$4068e7a0$@com> <02a701c9ca7e$a99ae300$fcd0a900$@com> <02d501c9ca88$02c49350$084db9f0$@com> <0KIZ003C3AGA75T0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Message-ID: <036201c9ca8d$ba05c6b0$2e115410$@com> Heh! Well, the final straw for me was when my Acer committed seppuku mid-set (had to revert to a backing-track CD I had to hand). Now the only headache I have is to find something with which to effectively tape over the fucking illuminated apple on the MacBook lid, which would otherwise make a stage look like it's got the Chemical Brothers on it. Darren Hungerford, UK From: The Exorcist [mailto:killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com] Sent: 01 May 2009 19:39 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Wimp! :) At 02:09 PM 5/1/2009, Darren A. Peace wrote: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02D6_01C9CA90.6488FB50" Content-Language: en-gb Next thing I'd look at in that case is whether the BIOS is allocating slots itself, or relying on a "Plug & Play Operating System" to do it. This kind of thing is hugely irritating, and is part of the reason I've moved to a MacBook Pro for music stuff. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net ] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 01 May 2009 18:35 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Cheers, but yes we went through that. It still insists on 'reverting' after every shutdown. _____ From: dpeace at bigfoot.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 18:02:51 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Apologies if you're past this, but : is the original soundcard integrated into the motherboard? Even if not, I'd take a look at the BIOS options and see if you can physically select the PCI slot with the new soundcard. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net ] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 01 May 2009 16:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. _____ Windows LiveT HotmailR:.more than just e-mail. Check it out. _____ Windows LiveT: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Fri May 1 14:52:57 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 04:52:57 +1000 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <0KIZ00ALY9PFD690@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo><013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo><21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh><37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com><34486.203.210.68.145.1241176018.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <0KIZ00ALY9PFD690@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Message-ID: <1D7533FE230147AF84BC60C5A94A523A@HeadHigh> Easy workaround throw your iPod up on ebay and grab ANYTHING ELSE with 4GB +, get some decent $50+ canalphones, load the fucker up with Pantera, roll a fat sticky icky joint, grab a 40 and hit the road ;) _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of The Exorcist Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 04:22 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead For any IPOD users who wanna dump itunes... Use Floola, Just save the file to your Ipod and you can run it from ANY PC. It's easy, safe and does not make any firmware changes. http://www.floola.com/modules/wiwimod/ And for those that don't mind bypassing the IPOD software. Use Rockbox (make sure it's compatible with your ipod first!!!!) I've installed it on 3 ipods so far and no problems whatsoever. The best things is that it plays many formats, a crapload of plugins, customization up the wazooo and plug it in to any computer and just copy and paste the files.... http://www.rockbox.org/ WARNING... RUNNING THE ROCKBOX FIRMWARE MAY VOID YOUR WARRANTY. USE IT AT YOUR OWN RISK.... At 07:06 AM 5/1/2009, Brendan wrote: Yeah I know you can do it, I found that setting immediately and enabled it, just couldn't believe it started doing it automatically, and one of the reasons it pi$$ed me off is that I'd just spent weeks renaming and retagging my mp3 files. WEEKS. My OCD wouldn't sit still until I had everything in my particular format, band name space hyphen space year space hyphen space album name space hypen space track number space hyphen space etc. LOL. Also generally using the thing - my reaction was, to use a current geek meme - DO NOT WANT, or FAIL...and performance was pretty $hite too...had a single core CPU back then. Nup. Hated it. I also disliked it because of the iPod hype, I am player agnostic, no way do I want to be tied in to a fucking Applie application. So typical of that company, try to lock down the customers' choice and over-price with marketing hype and branding. Ugh. (And no it's not an anti-Apple pro-M$ rant, it's merely an anti-Apple rant...). There was some other drama about not being able to easily share your files with friends' PCs etc. Re Nero...I'm lazy with multimedia stuff, more of a gamer / hardware fan, never took the time to investigate that. Would be nice to do away with Nero actually, I have a rebuild coming up in a month or so so I wll do it then. I just assumed it was a good idea to use the software that came with the drive, and Nero has always been easy to use. Cheers. > Edit > Preferences > Advanced > > > > > Tick Keep iTunes Music Folder Organised > > Untick Copy files to iTunes Music Folder if you don?t want duplicates. > > > > I have the Copy Files option ticked, so everything is copied to my central > library, and I can then manually delete the original file, which could be > anywhere on my computer. > > > > Oh, and Brendan? Nero? Hope there?s something in that bloatware that you > really, really need. I gave up on it at version 5. > > > > Otherwise, the free ImgBurn ( http://www.imgburn.com/ ) does pretty much > everything I need. > > > > Darren > > Hungerford, UK > > > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > On > Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence > Sent: 01 May 2009 11:12 > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > > > > you made me laugh about i-tunes ....yeah i hate it also but have to use it > to put vinyl and tape into my computer ...i hate the way it duplicates > everything meaning i have to delete loads > >> Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 21:55:33 +1200 >> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz >> To: gathering at misera.net >> Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead >> >> Multimedia programs do in a sense fight each other, insofar as the file >> associations contention. Windows keeps a list of which programs to use >> to >> open particular file types...so by default when you double-click that >> kind >> of file, Windows will know what to do with it (open .doc files with M$ >> Word for example...). >> >> Many multimedia apps ask you when you install them if you want to >> associate the application with ALL multimedia types (that it is >> compatible >> with)...such as mp3 / mp4, avi, wmv, flac, playing DVDs etc etc (there's >> loads of formats) and it's easy to overlook this setting when zipping >> through the install screens. I recently did a full install of the >> software >> that came with my DVD burner and it included a flaming media player >> (Nero), on top of all the other ones I have...as if I needed another one >> FFS... >> >> Can become a bit messy after a while as well, once you have several >> applications on your PC that aim to do the same thing, some of which >> will >> attempt to load automatically when your PC starts, automatically update, >> and many of which share core Windows system files & settings(dlls etc). >> >> Good rule of thumb is to pick a decent one that covers most bases and >> ignore the others. You probably don't need Quicktime on a Windows PC for >> example, avi files can be opened in VLC or Win Media Player. (And good >> luck if you're brave enough to use iTunes - we hates it precious ;p) >> >> If you want to change the file associations let me know, or Google it if >> you want, there's multiple ways to do it, pretty standard on Windows >> from >> 2000 on. Or you can simply re-install the player you want to use and let >> it reclaim the associations. >> >> The less programs you have on Windows the quicker it goes and less messy >> it gets, generally. >> >> > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Stephen Lawrence >> > wrote: >> > >> >> thanks bo >> >> ? to be honest i don't know which version i have ..i'm a bit wary of >> >> downloads and installations ..i was once told that programs >> can''fight >> >> '' >> >> with each other whether that is true i don;t know >> >> ? i have vlc and real player and win amp but prefer media player for >> >> the >> >> database >> > >> > Both and, programs cannot as such interfere with eachother, but codecs >> > and dll's can and will at every given chance. This is why i >> > recommended smplayer and/or vlc, since they both use their own sets of >> > codecs instead of using (and cluttering) the standard DirectShow set >> > that Windows Media Player and virtually every other media player use. >> > >> > To find the version of nearly any Windows program, click "Help" and >> > then "About". >> > >> > Also, if you already have vlc, you should be able to play WMA and WMV >> > with it. Just make sure you have the latest version from >> > www.videolan.org and you're all set. >> > >> > >> > b >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Gathering mailing list >> > Gathering at misera.net >> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _____ > > Windows Live Messenger just got better. 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URL: From stephen.l at live.com Fri May 1 15:07:22 2009 From: stephen.l at live.com (Stephen Lawrence) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 19:07:22 +0000 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <0KIZ005SK97C81G0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo> <013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo> <21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh> <0KIZ005SK97C81G0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Message-ID: thanks exo my foobar 2000 didn't last long either Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 14:11:35 -0400 From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Use VLC to play any file. http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ Don't need no stinking Codec's! If you don'y want to use VLC Try this You also might want to consider using something like the klite codec packs (basic) http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Media_Player_Classic.htm Some ppl. don't like it as it installs many many codecs. I've had no issues with it so far though. If used in conjunction with Media Player Classic http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Media_Player_Classic.htm it makes for a very versatile media player. At 07:59 PM 4/30/2009, Stephen Lawrence wrote: thanks brendan i think i might have problem with the codec as i can't play wma files ....actually i deleted it when jo said she couldn't help me From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 07:55:27 +1000 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead It?s a Windows Media Video or some such, standard Windows video kinda file. if you double-click it on a Windows PC with the default settings it should open automatically in Windows Media Player, as long as you have the right codecs. Please don?t ask me about codecs?I?ve just finished grayeyard shift and walked home amongst the daywalkers?ugh. Creeps the lot of em, smell of sunlight and coffee ;) You should never open file attachments from strangers, but Jo is no stranger than, well me for example, so go ahead. 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URL: From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Fri May 1 15:09:48 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 05:09:48 +1000 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <0KIZ00DDK9S6D140@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo><21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh><37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com><34486.203.210.68.145.1241176018.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <0KIZ00DDK9S6D140@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Message-ID: EVERYTHING is for free on the Internets. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of The Exorcist Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 04:24 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Or Softpointer Tag&Rename which I've used for many years and couldn't live without it. http://www.softpointer.com/tr.htm (It's not free though there is a trial.) At 07:13 AM 5/1/2009, Bo Krogsgaard wrote: On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Brendan wrote: > My OCD wouldn't sit still until I had > everything in my particular format, band name space hyphen space year > space hyphen space album name space hypen space track number space hyphen > space etc. LOL. www.mp3tag.de - you will thank me for it. b _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Fri May 1 15:15:56 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 05:15:56 +1000 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <0KIZ00JY4ABF0B11@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo><013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo><21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh><37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com><34486.203.210.68.145.1241176018.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><022601c9ca53$d7a1a0c0$86e4e240$@com><43619.203.210.68.145.1241181549.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><024601c9ca63$c022f7e0$4068e7a0$@com><02a701c9ca7e$a99ae300$fcd0a900$@com><736D1D4398E641E78B744022DAE3E697@HeadHigh> <0KIZ00JY4ABF0B11@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Message-ID: <88DAE9485CE3489094ACA8042497D552@HeadHigh> Actually you're right, but a) I'm 9/10 cut and b) I've never seen a sound card that wouldn't play ball when disabled in the BIOS.? My advice was a bit scrambled on second thought, what I should have said was.disable the onboard card in the bios (as Darren said, also check that it's not being auto configured via Plug & Play), go into Device Manager, & if it's still there, disable it. Then go into control panel and make sure the add-on card is the default sound device for everything and the other one doesn't show up at all. At this stage if nothing works, check Google and email the manufacturer. If all else fails upgrade the mobo & soundcard firmware (cos it sounds like a BIOS fault if it's not obeying CMOS Setup config) and take it from there.but check with the mobo manuf first to see if it's a known fault. Luckily updating BIOS firmware these days is a lot less painful and risky than it was in the past.but still, if no probs with it then leave it alone is a good rule of thumb, good call. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of The Exorcist Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 04:36 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead BQ, I'd leave the BIOS update as a very last resort. :) At 02:01 PM 5/1/2009, Brendan Quinn wrote: Try all of the following: Go into Control Panel, Sound (or similar depending on Windows version) and make sure the sound device selected is the add-on card Remove the device entirely from Device Manager, re-install drivers, make sure they are the manufacturer's, and the latest versions Disable the device in Device Manager Make sure there is nothing plugged into the Remove the CMOS battery for 10 mins Update the firmware on the motherboard and sound card Try another PCI slot Reinstalling windows is totally wac for an issue like this (!) Google the issue you have including the sound-card and motherboard model numbers, see if anyone else has that issue with that hardware. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net ] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 03:35 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Cheers, but yes we went through that. It still insists on 'reverting' after every shutdown. _____ From: dpeace at bigfoot.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 18:02:51 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Apologies if you're past this, but : is the original soundcard integrated into the motherboard? Even if not, I'd take a look at the BIOS options and see if you can physically select the PCI slot with the new soundcard. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net ] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 01 May 2009 16:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. _____ Windows LiveT HotmailR:.more than just e-mail. Check it out. _____ Windows LiveT: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. 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But hardly any standard PCs have RAID and eSata though.(nice rig if you do!). _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 04:43 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead All fine advice apart from Remove the CMOS battery for 10 mins I'd only do this if a) you have made accurate notes of all your BIOS settings and b) are keen to spend hours reoptimising things and getting any RAID arrays & ESATA drives working again. Reason I went for the BIOS PCI allocations first is because this recently sorted an unrecognised tape drive issue. Best of luck! Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 01 May 2009 19:01 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Try all of the following: Go into Control Panel, Sound (or similar depending on Windows version) and make sure the sound device selected is the add-on card Remove the device entirely from Device Manager, re-install drivers, make sure they are the manufacturer's, and the latest versions Disable the device in Device Manager Make sure there is nothing plugged into the Remove the CMOS battery for 10 mins Update the firmware on the motherboard and sound card Try another PCI slot Reinstalling windows is totally wac for an issue like this (!) Google the issue you have including the sound-card and motherboard model numbers, see if anyone else has that issue with that hardware. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 03:35 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Cheers, but yes we went through that. It still insists on 'reverting' after every shutdown. _____ From: dpeace at bigfoot.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 18:02:51 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Apologies if you're past this, but : is the original soundcard integrated into the motherboard? Even if not, I'd take a look at the BIOS options and see if you can physically select the PCI slot with the new soundcard. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 01 May 2009 16:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. _____ Windows LiveT HotmailR:.more than just e-mail. Check it out. _____ Windows LiveT: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Fri May 1 15:23:00 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 05:23:00 +1000 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <036201c9ca8d$ba05c6b0$2e115410$@com> References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo><013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo><21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh><37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com><34486.203.210.68.145.1241176018.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><022601c9ca53$d7a1a0c0$86e4e240$@com><43619.203.210.68.145.1241181549.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><024601c9ca63$c022f7e0$4068e7a0$@com><02a701c9ca7e$a99ae300$fcd0a900$@com><02d501c9ca88$02c49350$084db9f0$@com><0KIZ003C3AGA75T0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> <036201c9ca8d$ba05c6b0$2e115410$@com> Message-ID: You said it all when you said Acer.they are disastrous, the tecchies I know haven't recommended them for about 10 years now. Apple do make very solid reliable hardware for media, that's for sure.good call going Mac for that, no arguments at all. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 04:51 To: 'The Exorcist'; dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Heh! Well, the final straw for me was when my Acer committed seppuku mid-set (had to revert to a backing-track CD I had to hand). Now the only headache I have is to find something with which to effectively tape over the fucking illuminated apple on the MacBook lid, which would otherwise make a stage look like it's got the Chemical Brothers on it. Darren Hungerford, UK From: The Exorcist [mailto:killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com] Sent: 01 May 2009 19:39 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Wimp! :) At 02:09 PM 5/1/2009, Darren A. Peace wrote: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02D6_01C9CA90.6488FB50" Content-Language: en-gb Next thing I'd look at in that case is whether the BIOS is allocating slots itself, or relying on a "Plug & Play Operating System" to do it. This kind of thing is hugely irritating, and is part of the reason I've moved to a MacBook Pro for music stuff. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 01 May 2009 18:35 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Cheers, but yes we went through that. It still insists on 'reverting' after every shutdown. _____ From: dpeace at bigfoot.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 18:02:51 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Apologies if you're past this, but : is the original soundcard integrated into the motherboard? Even if not, I'd take a look at the BIOS options and see if you can physically select the PCI slot with the new soundcard. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 01 May 2009 16:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. _____ Windows LiveT HotmailR:.more than just e-mail. Check it out. _____ Windows LiveT: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering No virus found in this incoming message. 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Apple do make very solid reliable hardware for media, that's for sure...good call going Mac for that, no arguments at all. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 04:51 To: 'The Exorcist'; dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Heh! Well, the final straw for me was when my Acer committed seppuku mid-set (had to revert to a backing-track CD I had to hand). Now the only headache I have is to find something with which to effectively tape over the fucking illuminated apple on the MacBook lid, which would otherwise make a stage look like it's got the Chemical Brothers on it. Darren Hungerford, UK From: The Exorcist [mailto:killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com] Sent: 01 May 2009 19:39 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Wimp! :) At 02:09 PM 5/1/2009, Darren A. Peace wrote: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02D6_01C9CA90.6488FB50" Content-Language: en-gb Next thing I'd look at in that case is whether the BIOS is allocating slots itself, or relying on a "Plug & Play Operating System" to do it. This kind of thing is hugely irritating, and is part of the reason I've moved to a MacBook Pro for music stuff. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 01 May 2009 18:35 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Cheers, but yes we went through that. It still insists on 'reverting' after every shutdown. _____ From: dpeace at bigfoot.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 18:02:51 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Apologies if you're past this, but : is the original soundcard integrated into the motherboard? Even if not, I'd take a look at the BIOS options and see if you can physically select the PCI slot with the new soundcard. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 01 May 2009 16:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. _____ Windows Live(tm) Hotmail?:...more than just e-mail. Check it out. _____ Windows Live(tm): Keep your life in sync. Check it out. _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Fri May 1 16:15:03 2009 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 21:15:03 +0100 Subject: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economist PaulKrugman onthe economic crisis Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097259@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Pay to see tea-bagging? Most do: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=teabagger -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: 01 May 2009 18:29 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economist PaulKrugman onthe economic crisis I'd pay good money to see *that* (the teabagging, that is.) Galbraith is brilliant. Armey? Not so much. k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 2:11 AM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman onthe economic crisis Brendan, you would probably like this. James K. Galbraith debating tea-bagger leader Dick Armey, just came out today (May 1, 2009): Causes of the Crisis James K. Galbraith | May 01, 2009 | Commentary Editor?s note: These remarks were delivered to a meeting of the Texas Lyceum in Austin on April 3, at a debate between University of Texas professor James Galbraith, an Observer contributing writer, and former Majority Leader Richard Armey, chief instigator of the recent Astroturf ?tea party" protests. Armey had begun his remarks by noting that his rule in life was ?never trust anyone from Austin or Boston,? and proceeded to declare his allegiance to the ?Austrian School? of economics, a libertarian view that regards public intervention in private markets as socialism. GALBRAITH: It is of course a pleasure to be with you today. I was born in Boston, and I am proud of it. And I have lived 24 years in Austin?and I?m proud of that. Leader Armey spoke to you of his admiration for Austrian economics. I can?t resist telling you that when the Vienna Economics Institute celebrated its centennial, many years ago, they invited, as their keynote speaker, my father [John Kenneth Galbraith]. The leading economists of the Austrian school?including von Hayek and von Haberler?returned for the occasion. And so my father took a moment to reflect on the economic triumphs of the Austrian Republic since the war, which, he said, ?would not have been possible without the contribution of these men.? They nodded?briefly?until it dawned on them what he meant. They?d all left the country in the 1930s. My own economics is American: genus Institutionalist; species: Galbraithian. This is a panel on the crisis. Mr. Moderator, you ask what is the root cause? My reply is in three parts. First, an idea. The idea that capitalism, for all its considerable virtues, is inherently self-stabilizing, that government and private business are adversaries rather than partners; the idea that freedom without responsibility is a viable business principle; the idea that regulation, in financial matters especially, can be dispensed with. We tried it, and we see the result. Second, a person. It would not be right to blame any single person for these events, but if I had to choose one to name it would be a Texan, our own distinguished former Senator Phil Gramm. I?d cite specifically the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act?the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act?in 1999, after which it took less than a decade to reproduce all the pathologies that Glass-Steagall had been enacted to deal with in 1933. [...] Rest at: http://www.texasobserver.org/article.php?aid=3031 _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com Fri May 1 16:16:22 2009 From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com (The Exorcist) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 16:16:22 -0400 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo> <013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo> <21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh> <37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com> <34486.203.210.68.145.1241176018.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <022601c9ca53$d7a1a0c0$86e4e240$@com> <43619.203.210.68.145.1241181549.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <024601c9ca63$c022f7e0$4068e7a0$@com> <02a701c9ca7e$a99ae300$fcd0a900$@com> <02d501c9ca88$02c49350$084db9f0$@com> Message-ID: <0KIZ00IHQEZBJ7K0@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Wimp #2! :) Suffer the Windows! At 02:42 PM 5/1/2009, folk devil wrote: >Totally agree. Been considering the Mac move a lot, lately. > > >---------- >From: dpeace at bigfoot.com >To: gathering at misera.net >Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 19:09:46 +0100 >Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > >Next thing I?d look at in that case is whether >the BIOS is allocating slots itself, or relying >on a ?Plug & Play Operating System? to do it. >This kind of thing is hugely irritating, and is >part of the reason I?ve moved to a MacBook Pro for music stuff. > > > >Darren > >Hungerford, UK > > > >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net >[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil >Sent: 01 May 2009 18:35 >To: gathering at misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > > > >Cheers, but yes we went through that. It still >insists on 'reverting' after every shutdown. > > > >---------- > > >---------- >Windows Live? 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Nothing is a bigger pain than having the bios set up to AHCI and then it tries to boot as IDE or vice verse. Your machine won't load normally and it'll irritate you till you figure it out. :) At 02:43 PM 5/1/2009, Darren A. Peace wrote: >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0335_01C9CA95.0D2DC110" >Content-Language: en-gb > >All fine advice apart from > >Remove the CMOS battery for 10 mins > >I?d only do this if a) you have made accurate >notes of all your BIOS settings and b) are keen >to spend hours reoptimising things and getting >any RAID arrays & ESATA drives working again. > >Reason I went for the BIOS PCI allocations first >is because this recently sorted an unrecognised tape drive issue. > >Best of luck! > >Darren >Hungerford, UK > >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net >[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn >Sent: 01 May 2009 19:01 >To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' >Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > >Try all of the following: > >Go into Control Panel, Sound (or similar >depending on Windows version) and make sure the >sound device selected is the add-on card >Remove the device entirely from Device Manager, >re-install drivers, make sure they are the >manufacturer?s, and the latest versions >Disable the device in Device Manager >Make sure there is nothing plugged into the >Remove the CMOS battery for 10 mins >Update the firmware on the motherboard and sound card >Try another PCI slot >Reinstalling windows is totally wac for an issue like this (!) >Google the issue you have including the >sound-card and motherboard model numbers, see if >anyone else has that issue with that hardware > >---------- >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net >[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil >Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 03:35 >To: gathering at misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > >Cheers, but yes we went through that. It still >insists on 'reverting' after every shutdown. > > > >---------- >From: dpeace at bigfoot.com >To: gathering at misera.net >Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 18:02:51 +0100 >Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead >Apologies if you?re past this, but : is the >original soundcard integrated into the >motherboard? Even if not, I?d take a look at the >BIOS options and see if you can physically >select the PCI slot with the new soundcard. > >Darren >Hungerford, UK > >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net >[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil >Sent: 01 May 2009 16:24 >To: gathering at misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > >iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! >That little ficker tried taking over every sound >device on my pc. It is now gone! >Windows, still insists on using its own primary >s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the >original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ >Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. > > >---------- >Windows Live? Hotmail?: more than just e-mail. >Check >it out. > > >---------- >Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. >Check >it out. > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: >270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering at misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Fri May 1 16:19:13 2009 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 21:19:13 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09725A@mr-pants.the-lab.local> The government is watching you through your monitor. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence Sent: 01 May 2009 09:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead thanks bo to be honest i don't know which version i have ..i'm a bit wary of downloads and installations ..i was once told that programs can''fight '' with each other whether that is true i don;t know i have vlc and real player and win amp but prefer media player for the database > Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 08:57:29 +0100 > From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Stephen Lawrence wrote: > > > thanks brendan i think i might have problem with the codec as i can't play > > wma files ....actually i deleted it when jo said she couldn't help me > > What version of Media Player are you using? In the old days, Microsoft > distributed the codecs separately, but now those redistribution packs > are (apparently) only available to developers. However, they CLAIM > that if you upgrade Media Player, you get the latest codec bundle as > well: > > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/download/AllDownloads.aspx > > Alternatively, if you feel adventurous you could grab either smplayer > (my personal fave) or vlc (equally good). At least i know for sure > that the "extra codecs" pack for smplayer supports both WMA and WMV > version 9. > > > b > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____ Surfing the web just got more rewarding. Download the New Internet Explorer 8 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com Fri May 1 16:21:08 2009 From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com (The Exorcist) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 16:21:08 -0400 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <06FA9DB77D9F42EDAA3F2184E17FCD27@HeadHigh> References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo> <013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo> <21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh> <37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com> <34486.203.210.68.145.1241176018.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <022601c9ca53$d7a1a0c0$86e4e240$@com> <43619.203.210.68.145.1241181549.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <024601c9ca63$c022f7e0$4068e7a0$@com> <02a701c9ca7e$a99ae300$fcd0a900$@com> <736D1D4398E641E78B744022DAE3E697@HeadHigh> <033401c9ca8c$ab695910$023c0b30$@com> <06FA9DB77D9F42EDAA3F2184E17FCD27@HeadHigh> Message-ID: <0KIZ00A24F79D6F0@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Fuck this shit... We're all going to dinner at Folk's house and fix his PC. We work, he sponsors food! At 03:18 PM 5/1/2009, Brendan Quinn wrote: >Yeah it was more a list of things I?d try, >probably not good advice to give anyone not >familiar with all the settings etc more of a >braindump of possible things I?d try. But hardly >any standard PCs have RAID and eSata though (nice rig if you do!). > > >---------- >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net >[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace >Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 04:43 >To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' >Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > >All fine advice apart from > >Remove the CMOS battery for 10 mins > >I?d only do this if a) you have made accurate >notes of all your BIOS settings and b) are keen >to spend hours reoptimising things and getting >any RAID arrays & ESATA drives working again. > >Reason I went for the BIOS PCI allocations first >is because this recently sorted an unrecognised tape drive issue. > >Best of luck! > >Darren >Hungerford, UK > >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net >[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn >Sent: 01 May 2009 19:01 >To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' >Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > >Try all of the following: > >Go into Control Panel, Sound (or similar >depending on Windows version) and make sure the >sound device selected is the add-on card >Remove the device entirely from Device Manager, >re-install drivers, make sure they are the >manufacturer?s, and the latest versions >Disable the device in Device Manager >Make sure there is nothing plugged into the >Remove the CMOS battery for 10 mins >Update the firmware on the motherboard and sound card >Try another PCI slot >Reinstalling windows is totally wac for an issue like this (!) >Google the issue you have including the >sound-card and motherboard model numbers, see if >anyone else has that issue with that hardware > >---------- >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net >[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil >Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 03:35 >To: gathering at misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > >Cheers, but yes we went through that. It still >insists on 'reverting' after every shutdown. > > > >---------- >From: dpeace at bigfoot.com >To: gathering at misera.net >Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 18:02:51 +0100 >Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead >Apologies if you?re past this, but : is the >original soundcard integrated into the >motherboard? Even if not, I?d take a look at the >BIOS options and see if you can physically >select the PCI slot with the new soundcard. > >Darren >Hungerford, UK > >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net >[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil >Sent: 01 May 2009 16:24 >To: gathering at misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > >iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! >That little ficker tried taking over every sound >device on my pc. It is now gone! >Windows, still insists on using its own primary >s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the >original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ >Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. > > >---------- >Windows Live? Hotmail?: more than just e-mail. >Check >it out. > > >---------- >Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. >Check >it out. > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: >270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: >270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering at misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Download the New Internet Explorer 8 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Fri May 1 16:22:13 2009 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 21:22:13 +0100 Subject: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman onthe economic crisis Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09725C@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Spot-on. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Sent: 01 May 2009 11:01 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman onthe economic crisis Is it just me, or does anyone else get a mental impression of insecure older white guys paying younger males to draps their nutpurse over their face when they hear the term tea-bagging...? Please tell me it's not just me, my therapist's To Do list is already a yard long ;) > Brendan, you would probably like this. James K. Galbraith debating > tea-bagger leader Dick Armey, just came out today (May 1, 2009): > > > Causes of the Crisis > James K. Galbraith | May 01, 2009 | Commentary > > Editor's note: These remarks were delivered to a meeting of the Texas > Lyceum in Austin on April 3, at a debate between University of Texas > professor James Galbraith, an Observer contributing writer, and former > Majority Leader Richard Armey, chief instigator of the recent Astroturf > "tea party" protests. Armey had begun his remarks by noting that his > rule in life was "never trust anyone from Austin or Boston," and > proceeded to declare his allegiance to the "Austrian School" of > economics, a libertarian view that regards public intervention in > private markets as socialism. > > GALBRAITH: > > It is of course a pleasure to be with you today. I was born in Boston, > and I am proud of it. And I have lived 24 years in Austin-and I'm proud > of that. > > Leader Armey spoke to you of his admiration for Austrian economics. I > can't resist telling you that when the Vienna Economics Institute > celebrated its centennial, many years ago, they invited, as their > keynote speaker, my father [John Kenneth Galbraith]. The leading > economists of the Austrian school-including von Hayek and von > Haberler-returned for the occasion. And so my father took a moment to > reflect on the economic triumphs of the Austrian Republic since the war, > which, he said, "would not have been possible without the contribution > of these men." They nodded-briefly-until it dawned on them what he > meant. They'd all left the country in the 1930s. > > My own economics is American: genus Institutionalist; species: > Galbraithian. > > This is a panel on the crisis. Mr. Moderator, you ask what is the root > cause? My reply is in three parts. > > First, an idea. The idea that capitalism, for all its considerable > virtues, is inherently self-stabilizing, that government and private > business are adversaries rather than partners; the idea that freedom > without responsibility is a viable business principle; the idea that > regulation, in financial matters especially, can be dispensed with. We > tried it, and we see the result. > > Second, a person. It would not be right to blame any single person for > these events, but if I had to choose one to name it would be a Texan, > our own distinguished former Senator Phil Gramm. I'd cite specifically > the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act-the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act-in 1999, > after which it took less than a decade to reproduce all the pathologies > that Glass-Steagall had been enacted to deal with in 1933. > > [...] > > Rest at: http://www.texasobserver.org/article.php?aid=3031 > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From saulomar1 at yahoo.com Fri May 1 16:28:24 2009 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 13:28:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman onthe economic crisis In-Reply-To: <47746.203.210.68.145.1241172401.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> References: <35994.203.210.68.145.1241110562.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <5AE1ED4BB62243C59E45FC0E2AAABA6B@HeadHigh> <49FABCDD.4040504@sbcglobal.net> <47746.203.210.68.145.1241172401.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <949963.81638.qm@web110206.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> > "Armey had begun his remarks by noting that his rule in life was ?never > trust anyone from Austin or Boston,? > FFS...steers and queers...which one are you boy?! ? Lol. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things..] ? 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? ________________________________ From: Brendan To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 3:06:41 AM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman onthe economic crisis "Armey had begun his remarks by noting that his rule in life was ?never trust anyone from Austin or Boston,? FFS...steers and queers...which one are you boy?! And the tea bagging leader is called Dick Armey? Holy shit, I'd forgotten that. Hey Olly check out the Texas reference in this, one of my favourites: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8gp9RcToi8 > Brendan, you would probably like this. James K. Galbraith debating > tea-bagger leader Dick Armey, just came out today (May 1, 2009): > > > Causes of the Crisis > James K. Galbraith | May 01, 2009 | Commentary > > Editor?s note: These remarks were delivered to a meeting of the Texas > Lyceum in Austin on April 3, at a debate between University of Texas > professor James Galbraith, an Observer contributing writer, and former > Majority Leader Richard Armey, chief instigator of the recent Astroturf > ?tea party" protests. Armey had begun his remarks by noting that his > rule in life was ?never trust anyone from Austin or Boston,? and > proceeded to declare his allegiance to the ?Austrian School? of > economics, a libertarian view that regards public intervention in > private markets as socialism. > > GALBRAITH: > > It is of course a pleasure to be with you today. I was born in Boston, > and I am proud of it. And I have lived 24 years in Austin?and I?m proud > of that. > > Leader Armey spoke to you of his admiration for Austrian economics. I > can?t resist telling you that when the Vienna Economics Institute > celebrated its centennial, many years ago, they invited, as their > keynote speaker, my father [John Kenneth Galbraith]. The leading > economists of the Austrian school?including von Hayek and von > Haberler?returned for the occasion. And so my father took a moment to > reflect on the economic triumphs of the Austrian Republic since the war, > which, he said, ?would not have been possible without the contribution > of these men.? They nodded?briefly?until it dawned on them what he > meant. They?d all left the country in the 1930s. > > My own economics is American: genus Institutionalist; species: > Galbraithian. > > This is a panel on the crisis. Mr. Moderator, you ask what is the root > cause? My reply is in three parts. > > First, an idea. The idea that capitalism, for all its considerable > virtues, is inherently self-stabilizing, that government and private > business are adversaries rather than partners; the idea that freedom > without responsibility is a viable business principle; the idea that > regulation, in financial matters especially, can be dispensed with. We > tried it, and we see the result. > > Second, a person. It would not be right to blame any single person for > these events, but if I had to choose one to name it would be a Texan, > our own distinguished former Senator Phil Gramm. 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URL: From saulomar1 at yahoo.com Fri May 1 16:38:06 2009 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 13:38:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <43619.203.210.68.145.1241181549.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo> <013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo> <21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh> <37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com> <34486.203.210.68.145.1241176018.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <022601c9ca53$d7a1a0c0$86e4e240$@com> <43619.203.210.68.145.1241181549.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <212735.13655.qm@web110204.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Since i only need basic play, pause, and playlists, I use RealPlayer. *ducks* (it has a 3 band EQ). Easy as fuck, on very rare occassions may freeze, it's free, and just make sure you delete the realupdate. and realsched. files at the hard drive (don't rely on the player's disabling instructions, they're flawed). ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things..] ? 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? ________________________________ From: Brendan To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 5:39:09 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead At the end of the day I want a little piece of inconspicuous software that plays media files & makes playlists, and maybe has an equaliser. Something free, unobtrusive, won't constantly try to wrest my file associations over to the dark side, install Google fucking toolbar, take 10 mins to install, loads up the iStore every time it opens, reminding me that the kids are all listening to Rhianna these days - yay - and sinks its hooks into the operating system so that if I try to remove it I have to rip half my OS's brain-stem out, set up a hearrtbeat back to the Deathstar in order to *update* itself periodically... In fact I dislike Windows Media Player as well for similar reasons, but it never tried to steal our files, precious, and make them it's own *growl* > Heh. > > The help was for Stephen; I'm clear that your anti-Apple bias means that > you'd rather see Air Supply in concert than load up iTunes. > > Darren > Hungerford, UK > > -----Original Message----- > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > On > Behalf Of Brendan > Sent: 01 May 2009 12:07 > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > > Yeah I know you can do it, I found that setting immediately and enabled > it, just couldn't believe it started doing it automatically, and one of > the reasons it pi$$ed me off is that I'd just spent weeks renaming and > retagging my mp3 files. WEEKS. My OCD wouldn't sit still until I had > everything in my particular format, band name space hyphen space year > space hyphen space album name space hypen space track number space hyphen > space etc. LOL. > > Also generally using the thing - my reaction was, to use a current geek > meme - DO NOT WANT, or FAIL...and performance was pretty $hite too...had a > single core CPU back then. > > Nup. Hated it. I also disliked it because of the iPod hype, I am player > agnostic, no way do I want to be tied in to a fucking Applie application. > So typical of that company, try to lock down the customers' choice and > over-price with marketing hype and branding. Ugh. (And no it's not an > anti-Apple pro-M$ rant, it's merely an anti-Apple rant...). There was some > other drama about not being able to easily share your files with friends' > PCs etc. > > Re Nero...I'm lazy with multimedia stuff, more of a gamer / hardware fan, > never took the time to investigate that. Would be nice to do away with > Nero actually, I have a rebuild coming up in a month or so so I wll do it > then. I just assumed it was a good idea to use the software that came with > the drive, and Nero has always been easy to use. Cheers. > >> Edit > Preferences > Advanced > >> >> >> >> Tick Keep iTunes Music Folder Organised >> >> Untick Copy files to iTunes Music Folder if you don?t want duplicates. >> >> >> >> I have the Copy Files option ticked, so everything is copied to my >> central >> library, and I can then manually delete the original file, which could >> be >> anywhere on my computer. >> >> >> >> Oh, and Brendan? Nero? Hope there?s something in that bloatware that you >> really, really need. I gave up on it at version 5. >> >> >> >> Otherwise, the free ImgBurn (http://www.imgburn.com/ ) does pretty much >> everything I need. >> >> >> >> Darren >> >> Hungerford, UK >> >> >> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] >> On >> Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence >> Sent: 01 May 2009 11:12 >> To: gathering at misera.net >> Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead >> >> >> >> you made me laugh about i-tunes ....yeah i hate it also but have to use >> it >> to put vinyl and tape into my computer ...i hate the way it duplicates >> everything meaning i have to delete loads >> >>> Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 21:55:33 +1200 >>> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz >>> To: gathering at misera.net >>> Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead >>> >>> Multimedia programs do in a sense fight each other, insofar as the file >>> associations contention. Windows keeps a list of which programs to use >>> to >>> open particular file types...so by default when you double-click that >>> kind >>> of file, Windows will know what to do with it (open .doc files with M$ >>> Word for example...). >>> >>> Many multimedia apps ask you when you install them if you want to >>> associate the application with ALL multimedia types (that it is >>> compatible >>> with)...such as mp3 / mp4, avi, wmv, flac, playing DVDs etc etc >>> (there's >>> loads of formats) and it's easy to overlook this setting when zipping >>> through the install screens. I recently did a full install of the >>> software >>> that came with my DVD burner and it included a flaming media player >>> (Nero), on top of all the other ones I have...as if I needed another >>> one >>> FFS... >>> >>> Can become a bit messy after a while as well, once you have several >>> applications on your PC that aim to do the same thing, some of which >>> will >>> attempt to load automatically when your PC starts, automatically >>> update, >>> and many of which share core Windows system files & settings(dlls etc). >>> >>> Good rule of thumb is to pick a decent one that covers most bases and >>> ignore the others. You probably don't need Quicktime on a Windows PC >>> for >>> example, avi files can be opened in VLC or Win Media Player. (And good >>> luck if you're brave enough to use iTunes - we hates it precious ;p) >>> >>> If you want to change the file associations let me know, or Google it >>> if >>> you want, there's multiple ways to do it, pretty standard on Windows >>> from >>> 2000 on. Or you can simply re-install the player you want to use and >>> let >>> it reclaim the associations. >>> >>> The less programs you have on Windows the quicker it goes and less >>> messy >>> it gets, generally. >>> >>> > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Stephen Lawrence >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> >> thanks bo >>> >> ?? to be honest i don't know which version i have ..i'm a bit wary >>> of >>> >> downloads and installations ..i was once told that programs >>> can''fight >>> >> '' >>> >> with each other whether that is true i don;t know >>> >> ?? i have vlc and real player and win amp but prefer media player >>> for >>> >> the >>> >> database >>> > >>> > Both and, programs cannot as such interfere with eachother, but >>> codecs >>> > and dll's can and will at every given chance. This is why i >>> > recommended smplayer and/or vlc, since they both use their own sets >>> of >>> > codecs instead of using (and cluttering) the standard DirectShow set >>> > that Windows Media Player and virtually every other media player use. >>> > >>> > To find the version of nearly any Windows program, click "Help" and >>> > then "About". >>> > >>> > Also, if you already have vlc, you should be able to play WMA and WMV >>> > with it. Just make sure you have the latest version from >>> > www.videolan.org and you're all set. >>> > >>> > >>> > b >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Gathering mailing list >>> > Gathering at misera.net >>> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >>> > >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gathering mailing list >>> Gathering at misera.net >>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> >>? _____ >> >> Windows Live Messenger just got better. 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URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Fri May 1 16:38:38 2009 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 21:38:38 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09725D@mr-pants.the-lab.local> 27 minutes from sending to receiving. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of ade Sent: 01 May 2009 21:05 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Well, it's easy when you can design the whole system from end to end & work out the compatibilities in test. Windows has to run on improvised hardware. Explains a lot, though mentioned rarely. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 01 May 2009 20:23 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead You said it all when you said Acer...they are disastrous, the tecchies I know haven't recommended them for about 10 years now. Apple do make very solid reliable hardware for media, that's for sure...good call going Mac for that, no arguments at all. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 04:51 To: 'The Exorcist'; dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Heh! Well, the final straw for me was when my Acer committed seppuku mid-set (had to revert to a backing-track CD I had to hand). Now the only headache I have is to find something with which to effectively tape over the fucking illuminated apple on the MacBook lid, which would otherwise make a stage look like it's got the Chemical Brothers on it. Darren Hungerford, UK From: The Exorcist [mailto:killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com] Sent: 01 May 2009 19:39 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Wimp! :) At 02:09 PM 5/1/2009, Darren A. Peace wrote: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02D6_01C9CA90.6488FB50" Content-Language: en-gb Next thing I'd look at in that case is whether the BIOS is allocating slots itself, or relying on a "Plug & Play Operating System" to do it. This kind of thing is hugely irritating, and is part of the reason I've moved to a MacBook Pro for music stuff. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 01 May 2009 18:35 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Cheers, but yes we went through that. It still insists on 'reverting' after every shutdown. _____ From: dpeace at bigfoot.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 18:02:51 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Apologies if you're past this, but : is the original soundcard integrated into the motherboard? Even if not, I'd take a look at the BIOS options and see if you can physically select the PCI slot with the new soundcard. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 01 May 2009 16:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. _____ Windows Live(tm) Hotmail?:...more than just e-mail. Check it out. _____ Windows Live(tm): Keep your life in sync. Check it out. _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Fri May 1 16:42:40 2009 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 21:42:40 +0100 Subject: [kj] How the swine flu spreads Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09725E@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Love it ;) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8028974.stm Spent last night in hospital as my son's temperature went up to 40 within one hour. The doctors were straight in there: get down the hospital, check meningitis, have you been anywhere on holiday, etc. They seemed pretty well-prepared, which is good news. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 29 April 2009 18:46 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: [kj] How the swine flu spreads If I can get an 85 KB email through this might raise a smile... From saulomar1 at yahoo.com Fri May 1 16:52:23 2009 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 13:52:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] JG Ballard, "Empire of the Sun" author dead. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <568480.94158.qm@web110213.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Rest In Peace http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs_T8ssB_28 EOTS - The Best Scene http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tztl6ZEjrw4&NR=1 (w/Xian Bale) Classic. ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things..] ? 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? ________________________________ From: Bette Dillinger To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 5:53:49 PM Subject: [kj] JG Ballard, "Empire of the Sun" author dead. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30308262/ ? Eat, drink and be merry...... ? RIP ________________________________ Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. Check it out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From saulomar1 at yahoo.com Fri May 1 16:55:47 2009 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 13:55:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09725A@mr-pants.the-lab.local> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09725A@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: <624119.25726.qm@web110204.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> > The government is watching you through your monitor. ? Their circuits gleam, and they keep the country clean... ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things..] ? 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? ________________________________ From: ade To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 1:19:13 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The government is watching you through your monitor. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence Sent: 01 May 2009 09:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead thanks bo ? to be honest i don't know which version i have ..i'm a bit wary of downloads and installations ..i was once told that programs can''fight '' with each other whether that is true i don;t know ? i have vlc and real player and win amp but prefer media player for the database ? > Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 08:57:29 +0100 > From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Stephen Lawrence wrote: > > > thanks brendan i think i might have problem with the codec as i can't play > > wma files ....actually i deleted it when jo said she?couldn't help me > > What version of Media Player are you using? In the old days, Microsoft > distributed the codecs separately, but now those redistribution packs > are (apparently) only available to developers. However, they CLAIM > that if you upgrade Media Player, you get the latest codec bundle as > well: > > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/download/AllDownloads.aspx > > Alternatively, if you feel adventurous you could grab either smplayer > (my personal fave) or vlc (equally good). At least i know for sure > that the "extra codecs" pack for smplayer supports both WMA and WMV > version 9. > > > b > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ________________________________ Surfing the web just got more rewarding. Download the New Internet Explorer 8 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Once at home I will try the suggestions not already attempted.. Somedays I miss those old two tracks! ;) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 16:21:08 -0400 From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Fuck this shit... We're all going to dinner at Folk's house and fix his PC. We work, he sponsors food! At 03:18 PM 5/1/2009, Brendan Quinn wrote: Yeah it was more a list of things I?d try, probably not good advice to give anyone not familiar with all the settings etc?more of a braindump of possible things I?d try. But hardly any standard PCs have RAID and eSata though?(nice rig if you do!). From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 04:43 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead All fine advice apart from Remove the CMOS battery for 10 mins I?d only do this if a) you have made accurate notes of all your BIOS settings and b) are keen to spend hours reoptimising things and getting any RAID arrays & ESATA drives working again. Reason I went for the BIOS PCI allocations first is because this recently sorted an unrecognised tape drive issue. Best of luck! Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 01 May 2009 19:01 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Try all of the following: Go into Control Panel, Sound (or similar depending on Windows version) and make sure the sound device selected is the add-on card Remove the device entirely from Device Manager, re-install drivers, make sure they are the manufacturer?s, and the latest versions Disable the device in Device Manager Make sure there is nothing plugged into the Remove the CMOS battery for 10 mins Update the firmware on the motherboard and sound card Try another PCI slot Reinstalling windows is totally wac for an issue like this (!) Google the issue you have including the sound-card and motherboard model numbers, see if anyone else has that issue with that hardware? From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 03:35 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Cheers, but yes we went through that. It still insists on 'reverting' after every shutdown. From: dpeace at bigfoot.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 18:02:51 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Apologies if you?re past this, but : is the original soundcard integrated into the motherboard? Even if not, I?d take a look at the BIOS options and see if you can physically select the PCI slot with the new soundcard. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 01 May 2009 16:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. Check it out. Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. 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URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Fri May 1 17:00:22 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 14:00:22 -0700 Subject: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economistPaulKrugman onthe economic crisis References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097259@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: Yes, yes, ade. I know that much. I hear the rates are better these days, though, due to the wretched economy. ; ) Cheers, KW ----- Original Message ----- From: "ade" To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economistPaulKrugman onthe economic crisis Pay to see tea-bagging? Most do: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=teabagger -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: 01 May 2009 18:29 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economist PaulKrugman onthe economic crisis I'd pay good money to see *that* (the teabagging, that is.) Galbraith is brilliant. Armey? Not so much. k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 2:11 AM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman onthe economic crisis Brendan, you would probably like this. James K. Galbraith debating tea-bagger leader Dick Armey, just came out today (May 1, 2009): Causes of the Crisis James K. Galbraith | May 01, 2009 | Commentary Editor?s note: These remarks were delivered to a meeting of the Texas Lyceum in Austin on April 3, at a debate between University of Texas professor James Galbraith, an Observer contributing writer, and former Majority Leader Richard Armey, chief instigator of the recent Astroturf ?tea party" protests. Armey had begun his remarks by noting that his rule in life was ?never trust anyone from Austin or Boston,? and proceeded to declare his allegiance to the ?Austrian School? of economics, a libertarian view that regards public intervention in private markets as socialism. GALBRAITH: It is of course a pleasure to be with you today. I was born in Boston, and I am proud of it. And I have lived 24 years in Austin?and I?m proud of that. Leader Armey spoke to you of his admiration for Austrian economics. I can?t resist telling you that when the Vienna Economics Institute celebrated its centennial, many years ago, they invited, as their keynote speaker, my father [John Kenneth Galbraith]. The leading economists of the Austrian school?including von Hayek and von Haberler?returned for the occasion. And so my father took a moment to reflect on the economic triumphs of the Austrian Republic since the war, which, he said, ?would not have been possible without the contribution of these men.? They nodded?briefly?until it dawned on them what he meant. They?d all left the country in the 1930s. My own economics is American: genus Institutionalist; species: Galbraithian. This is a panel on the crisis. Mr. Moderator, you ask what is the root cause? My reply is in three parts. First, an idea. The idea that capitalism, for all its considerable virtues, is inherently self-stabilizing, that government and private business are adversaries rather than partners; the idea that freedom without responsibility is a viable business principle; the idea that regulation, in financial matters especially, can be dispensed with. We tried it, and we see the result. Second, a person. It would not be right to blame any single person for these events, but if I had to choose one to name it would be a Texan, our own distinguished former Senator Phil Gramm. I?d cite specifically the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act?the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act?in 1999, after which it took less than a decade to reproduce all the pathologies that Glass-Steagall had been enacted to deal with in 1933. [...] Rest at: http://www.texasobserver.org/article.php?aid=3031 _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From saulomar1 at yahoo.com Fri May 1 17:01:51 2009 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 14:01:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview In-Reply-To: <38295.203.210.68.145.1241116041.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> References: <843327.2940.qm@web110205.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <38295.203.210.68.145.1241116041.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <954225.25572.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Yes, the irony of it all is amazing. Prolly felt swamped out of his own self by performance demands, having to live?in the shadow of his father and his genius brother. I'd have to reread the early stuff about him but just watching him, it's clear there were, shall we say, a few "rapids" in that stream. (btw, ?the obit?on his late father... his late dad's accomplishments?make Jaz look like?an anemic slacker in comparison. maybe someone can repost it?). ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things..] ? 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? ________________________________ From: Brendan To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 11:27:21 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview Jaz self-elected Christianity and was winning awards for the violin (or dreaming of it, who knows) while his brother was gearing up his nogggin for a career in nuclear physics :) > RE: Geordie's behavior.. > > They all look like they've had, um,??'rough' beginnings.?? The music > spells??it out also. > > > ... ... ... ... ... ... > > [looking at the current??state of things..] > ?? > 'Save me... > ?? save me??from Tomorrow.. > ?????? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'???? > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Bette Dillinger > To: gathering at misera.net > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 5:08:40 PM > Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview > > Hey! Thanks for posting this article.?? I only remember from that era > sneaking into "Noir Leather" in Royal Oak and being rather taken aback > that "Change" was being used to promote their S&M line.?? Had no idea he > lived there....I just knew Patti Smith was in the area and I was wishing > somehow that I would see her....but she was in St Clair Shores.?? Would > love to know what little Atticus is like now.....and if he plays the > guitar with his pops (for some reason I think the answer is negative, but > who knows). > ?? > Re:?? Geordie's behavior....just an armchair psychological view....he > looks??in that interview that Oliver posted to be very used to chaos and > violence (and not just from the battles in KJ).....eyes glazing over the > second Jaz becomes even slightly more animated....??I think that he > learned that at a young age "zoning out" is the best protection??? Post > Traumatic Stress Disorder?????There is a sadness about him, despite > his??incredible gifts or maybe because of them.???? > ?? > Bette???? > ?? > ???? > ?? > ________________________________ > To: gathering at misera.net > From: judithmuehlenbeck at freenet.de > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 01:06:25 +0200 > Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview > > This doesn't explain how he makes a crust, but found it interesting - bit > of Geordie's family & biography: > > http://www.anirrationaldomain.net/articles/1992-1996/detroitfreepress281194.html > > Judith > > ----- original Nachricht -------- > > Betreff: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview > Gesendet: Di 28 Apr 2009 19:05:39 CEST > Von: "Brendan Quinn" > > > What???s the deal with Geordie? Anyone gotten to know him, had a chat, > whatevers? The guy???s in my top 10 guitarists, possibly top 5, I totally > love his playing, but does anyone know what he???s all about? Lots of > attention goes to Jazz and Raven and Youth and fair enough, but what???s > the deal with this guy? His sounds totally, totally rock my world, coming > from the metal 101 background that I do. But he seems pretty impassive, > stoic, I dunno???sits in the Coleman shadow. And yeah, how does he make a > crust when he???s not doing KJ stuff, as someone has asked before???? I > suppose their back catalog royalties pays a bit, but would it be enough to > live on? Perhaps some rich fucker has him retained as a personal bard to > play on corporate jets? > ?? > > ________________________________ > > From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On > Behalf Of jerry bodkin > Sent: Wednesday, 29 April 2009 02:40 > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview > ?? > ?? > ??I beg your pardon? > ?? > ??Jelly confused > ?? > > ________________________________ > > From: stephen.l at live.com > To: gathering at misera.net > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:54:12 0000 > Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview > > is that the knowing smile that we have??been and continue to be cheated by > the system jelbod?..and there is a way out without riotingif you exercise > your rights under common law ..nice to know our forfathers put in place a > charter to cover what is happening now ..shame the masses are oblivious of > it ...and the system??makes sure it stays that??way ..oh the wisdom of > god's holy words ''seek and you will find ,knock and it will be opened > unto you '' > ?? > > ________________________________ > > From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk > To: gathering at misera.net > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:46:27 0100 > Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview > > > ??his facial expressions aret he same as mine 24 hours a day. > ?? > ??Lol Jonn, went back and re-watched it. Perplexed and or confused. > ?? > ??Jel > > ________________________________ > > From: jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk > To: gathering at misera.net > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:28:24 0000 > Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview > > ??re: geordie?? 8:30 - 8:46?? - his facial expressions aret he same as > mine 24 hours a day. > > ?? > ?? > ?? > > > > ?? > > ________________________________ > > From: stephen.l at live.com > To: gathering at misera.net > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:12:18 0000 > Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview > > regarding loose cannon vid which i have the dvd of isn't it more tribal [ > maori ] looking .[ similar to pandemonium ]? but yes i concur that jaz > raises a smile and is so right on the money about britain's revolutionary > potential > ?? >> From: fatpotanga at gmail.com >> To: gathering at misera.net >> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:51:54 0100 >> Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview >> >> I sometimes need a reminder of why i love Killing Joke & that, Mr >> Sheppard was an excellent interview. >> Even Gerodie got a word in at the beginning :) >> >> "they [british working class] don't like revolutions - it get's in the >> way of tea time" >> Fantastic sound bite if ever there was! >> >> I also love the bit from 8:31 where he forgets how to speak & sounds >> like a 4 year old :) >> >> I know it got slated on here but I'd also forgotten how much I liked >> the Loose Cannon vid. >> >> >> >> On 28 Apr 2009, at 05:10, B. 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URL: From folk.devil at hotmail.com Fri May 1 17:05:19 2009 From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 14:05:19 -0700 Subject: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugmanon the economic crisis In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09725B@mr-pants.the-lab.local> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09725B@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: copy the link into your browser, Stephen. It is not that special, however. Far too many loons. Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 21:21:21 +0100 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugmanon the economic crisis LOL!!! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence Sent: 01 May 2009 02:30 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugmanon the economic crisis was unable to go to that link folk ..bit of censoring going on no doubt From: folk.devil at hotmail.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:32:52 -0700 Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman on the economic crisis I just found a rather interesting Jefferson quote: "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them, will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20and%20History/Federal-Reserve.html Rediscover Hotmail?: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry Check it out. 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Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The government is watching you through your monitor. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence Sent: 01 May 2009 09:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead thanks bo to be honest i don't know which version i have ..i'm a bit wary of downloads and installations ..i was once told that programs can''fight '' with each other whether that is true i don;t know i have vlc and real player and win amp but prefer media player for the database > Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 08:57:29 +0100 > From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Stephen Lawrence wrote: > > > thanks brendan i think i might have problem with the codec as i can't play > > wma files ....actually i deleted it when jo said she couldn't help me > > What version of Media Player are you using? In the old days, Microsoft > distributed the codecs separately, but now those redistribution packs > are (apparently) only available to developers. However, they CLAIM > that if you upgrade Media Player, you get the latest codec bundle as > well: > > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/download/AllDownloads.aspx > > Alternatively, if you feel adventurous you could grab either smplayer > (my personal fave) or vlc (equally good). At least i know for sure > that the "extra codecs" pack for smplayer supports both WMA and WMV > version 9. > > > b > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____ Surfing the web just got more rewarding. Download the New Internet Explorer 8 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpeace at bigfoot.com Fri May 1 17:14:59 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 22:14:59 +0100 Subject: [kj] How the swine flu spreads In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09725E@mr-pants.the-lab.local> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09725E@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: <03ff01c9caa1$e2bde150$a839a3f0$@com> Shit. It's worrying when that happens. All sorted now? Darren Hungerford, UK -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade Sent: 01 May 2009 21:43 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] How the swine flu spreads Love it ;) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8028974.stm Spent last night in hospital as my son's temperature went up to 40 within one hour. The doctors were straight in there: get down the hospital, check meningitis, have you been anywhere on holiday, etc. They seemed pretty well-prepared, which is good news. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 29 April 2009 18:46 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: [kj] How the swine flu spreads If I can get an 85 KB email through this might raise a smile... _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Fri May 1 17:29:15 2009 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 22:29:15 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09725F@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Just like my leather hot-pants. Wipe-clean. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: 01 May 2009 21:56 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > The government is watching you through your monitor. Their circuits gleam, and they keep the country clean... ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' _____ From: ade To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 1:19:13 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The government is watching you through your monitor. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence Sent: 01 May 2009 09:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead thanks bo to be honest i don't know which version i have ..i'm a bit wary of downloads and installations ..i was once told that programs can''fight '' with each other whether that is true i don;t know i have vlc and real player and win amp but prefer media player for the database > Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 08:57:29 +0100 > From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Stephen Lawrence wrote: > > > thanks brendan i think i might have problem with the codec as i can't play > > wma files ....actually i deleted it when jo said she couldn't help me > > What version of Media Player are you using? In the old days, Microsoft > distributed the codecs separately, but now those redistribution packs > are (apparently) only available to developers. However, they CLAIM > that if you upgrade Media Player, you get the latest codec bundle as > well: > > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/download/AllDownloads.aspx > > Alternatively, if you feel adventurous you could grab either smplayer > (my personal fave) or vlc (equally good). At least i know for sure > that the "extra codecs" pack for smplayer supports both WMA and WMV > version 9. > > > b > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____ Surfing the web just got more rewarding. Download the New Internet Explorer 8 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Fri May 1 17:33:51 2009 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 22:33:51 +0100 Subject: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winningeconomistPaulKrugman onthe economic crisis Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097260@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Yes, when money's tight, things get squeezed 'til the 'pips' squeak. So to speak ;) -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: 01 May 2009 22:00 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winningeconomistPaulKrugman onthe economic crisis Yes, yes, ade. I know that much. I hear the rates are better these days, though, due to the wretched economy. ; ) Cheers, KW ----- Original Message ----- From: "ade" To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economistPaulKrugman onthe economic crisis Pay to see tea-bagging? Most do: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=teabagger -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: 01 May 2009 18:29 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economist PaulKrugman onthe economic crisis I'd pay good money to see *that* (the teabagging, that is.) Galbraith is brilliant. Armey? Not so much. k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 2:11 AM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman onthe economic crisis Brendan, you would probably like this. James K. Galbraith debating tea-bagger leader Dick Armey, just came out today (May 1, 2009): Causes of the Crisis James K. Galbraith | May 01, 2009 | Commentary Editor?s note: These remarks were delivered to a meeting of the Texas Lyceum in Austin on April 3, at a debate between University of Texas professor James Galbraith, an Observer contributing writer, and former Majority Leader Richard Armey, chief instigator of the recent Astroturf ?tea party" protests. Armey had begun his remarks by noting that his rule in life was ?never trust anyone from Austin or Boston,? and proceeded to declare his allegiance to the ?Austrian School? of economics, a libertarian view that regards public intervention in private markets as socialism. GALBRAITH: It is of course a pleasure to be with you today. I was born in Boston, and I am proud of it. And I have lived 24 years in Austin?and I?m proud of that. Leader Armey spoke to you of his admiration for Austrian economics. I can?t resist telling you that when the Vienna Economics Institute celebrated its centennial, many years ago, they invited, as their keynote speaker, my father [John Kenneth Galbraith]. The leading economists of the Austrian school?including von Hayek and von Haberler?returned for the occasion. And so my father took a moment to reflect on the economic triumphs of the Austrian Republic since the war, which, he said, ?would not have been possible without the contribution of these men.? They nodded?briefly?until it dawned on them what he meant. They?d all left the country in the 1930s. My own economics is American: genus Institutionalist; species: Galbraithian. This is a panel on the crisis. Mr. Moderator, you ask what is the root cause? My reply is in three parts. First, an idea. The idea that capitalism, for all its considerable virtues, is inherently self-stabilizing, that government and private business are adversaries rather than partners; the idea that freedom without responsibility is a viable business principle; the idea that regulation, in financial matters especially, can be dispensed with. We tried it, and we see the result. Second, a person. It would not be right to blame any single person for these events, but if I had to choose one to name it would be a Texan, our own distinguished former Senator Phil Gramm. I?d cite specifically the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act?the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act?in 1999, after which it took less than a decade to reproduce all the pathologies that Glass-Steagall had been enacted to deal with in 1933. [...] Rest at: http://www.texasobserver.org/article.php?aid=3031 _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk Fri May 1 17:41:32 2009 From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk (jo) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 22:41:32 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo><013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo><21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh><37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com><34486.203.210.68.145.1241176018.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><022601c9ca53$d7a1a0c0$86e4e240$@com><43619.203.210.68.145.1241181549.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><024601c9ca63$c022f7e0$4068e7a0$@com><02a701c9ca7e$a99ae300$fcd0a900$@com><736D1D4398E641E78B744022DAE3E697@HeadHigh><033401c9ca8c$ab695910$023c0b30$@com><06FA9DB77D9F42EDAA3F2184E17FCD27@HeadHigh> <0KIZ00A24F79D6F0@mta2.s rv.hcvlny.cv.net> Message-ID: <003b01c9caa5$98405fa0$0600000a@jo> I'll take you up on that if he doesn't! Fuck this shit... We're all going to dinner at Folk's house and fix his PC. We work, he sponsors food! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Fri May 1 17:53:25 2009 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 22:53:25 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097261@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Same technology, but with humour content upgraded. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 01 May 2009 22:14 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I thought that was Noel's TV. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade Sent: 01 May 2009 21:19 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The government is watching you through your monitor. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence Sent: 01 May 2009 09:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead thanks bo to be honest i don't know which version i have ..i'm a bit wary of downloads and installations ..i was once told that programs can''fight '' with each other whether that is true i don;t know i have vlc and real player and win amp but prefer media player for the database > Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 08:57:29 +0100 > From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Stephen Lawrence wrote: > > > thanks brendan i think i might have problem with the codec as i can't play > > wma files ....actually i deleted it when jo said she couldn't help me > > What version of Media Player are you using? In the old days, Microsoft > distributed the codecs separately, but now those redistribution packs > are (apparently) only available to developers. However, they CLAIM > that if you upgrade Media Player, you get the latest codec bundle as > well: > > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/download/AllDownloads.aspx > > Alternatively, if you feel adventurous you could grab either smplayer > (my personal fave) or vlc (equally good). At least i know for sure > that the "extra codecs" pack for smplayer supports both WMA and WMV > version 9. > > > b > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____ Surfing the web just got more rewarding. Download the New Internet Explorer 8 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com Fri May 1 17:53:29 2009 From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com (The Exorcist) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 17:53:29 -0400 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <212735.13655.qm@web110204.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo> <013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo> <21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh> <37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com> <34486.203.210.68.145.1241176018.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <022601c9ca53$d7a1a0c0$86e4e240$@com> <43619.203.210.68.145.1241181549.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <212735.13655.qm@web110204.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0KIZ005IYJH681R0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> RealPlayer???? You are a masochist! BTW, they're in the middle of a nice lawsuit now... The MPAA is very unhappy with them. This will be interesting. At 04:38 PM 5/1/2009, sade1 wrote: >Since i only need basic play, pause, and playlists, I use RealPlayer. *ducks* >(it has a 3 band EQ). >Easy as fuck, on very rare occassions may >freeze, it's free, and just make sure you delete >the realupdate. and realsched. files at the hard >drive (don't rely on the player's disabling instructions, they're flawed). > > > > > >... ... ... ... ... ... > >[looking at the current state of things..] > >'Save me... > save me from Tomorrow.. > I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' > > > > >From: Brendan >To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about >all things Killing Joke (the band!) >Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 5:39:09 AM >Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > >At the end of the day I want a little piece of inconspicuous software that >plays media files & makes playlists, and maybe has an equaliser. Something >free, unobtrusive, won't constantly try to wrest my file associations over >to the dark side, install Google fucking toolbar, take 10 mins to install, >loads up the iStore every time it opens, reminding me that the kids are >all listening to Rhianna these days - yay - and sinks its hooks into the >operating system so that if I try to remove it I have to rip half my OS's >brain-stem out, set up a hearrtbeat back to the Deathstar in order to >*update* itself periodically... > >In fact I dislike Windows Media Player as well for similar reasons, but it >never tried to steal our files, precious, and make them it's own *growl* > > > Heh. > > > > The help was for Stephen; I'm clear that your anti-Apple bias means that > > you'd rather see Air Supply in concert than load up iTunes. > > > > Darren > > Hungerford, UK > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: > gathering-bounces at misera.net > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > > On > > Behalf Of Brendan > > Sent: 01 May 2009 12:07 > > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > > Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > > > > Yeah I know you can do it, I found that setting immediately and enabled > > it, just couldn't believe it started doing it automatically, and one of > > the reasons it pi$$ed me off is that I'd just spent weeks renaming and > > retagging my mp3 files. WEEKS. My OCD wouldn't sit still until I had > > everything in my particular format, band name space hyphen space year > > space hyphen space album name space hypen space track number space hyphen > > space etc. LOL. > > > > Also generally using the thing - my reaction was, to use a current geek > > meme - DO NOT WANT, or FAIL...and performance was pretty $hite too...had a > > single core CPU back then. > > > > Nup. Hated it. I also disliked it because of the iPod hype, I am player > > agnostic, no way do I want to be tied in to a fucking Applie application. > > So typical of that company, try to lock down the customers' choice and > > over-price with marketing hype and branding. Ugh. (And no it's not an > > anti-Apple pro-M$ rant, it's merely an anti-Apple rant...). There was some > > other drama about not being able to easily share your files with friends' > > PCs etc. > > > > Re Nero...I'm lazy with multimedia stuff, more of a gamer / hardware fan, > > never took the time to investigate that. Would be nice to do away with > > Nero actually, I have a rebuild coming up in a month or so so I wll do it > > then. I just assumed it was a good idea to use the software that came with > > the drive, and Nero has always been easy to use. Cheers. > > > >> Edit > Preferences > Advanced > > >> > >> > >> > >> Tick Keep iTunes Music Folder Organised > >> > >> Untick Copy files to iTunes Music Folder if you don???t want duplicates. > >> > >> > >> > >> I have the Copy Files option ticked, so everything is copied to my > >> central > >> library, and I can then manually delete the original file, which could > >> be > >> anywhere on my computer. > >> > >> > >> > >> Oh, and Brendan? Nero? Hope there???s something in that bloatware that you > >> really, really need. I gave up on it at version 5. > >> > >> > >> > >> Otherwise, the free ImgBurn > (http://www.imgburn.com/ ) does pretty much > >> everything I need. > >> > >> > >> > >> Darren > >> > >> Hungerford, UK > >> > >> > >> > >> From: > gathering-bounces at misera.net > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > >> On > >> Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence > >> Sent: 01 May 2009 11:12 > >> To: gathering at misera.net > >> Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > >> > >> > >> > >> you made me laugh about i-tunes ....yeah i hate it also but have to use > >> it > >> to put vinyl and tape into my computer ...i hate the way it duplicates > >> everything meaning i have to delete loads > >> > >>> Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 21:55:33 +1200 > >>> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz > >>> To: gathering at misera.net > >>> Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > >>> > >>> Multimedia programs do in a sense fight each other, insofar as the file > >>> associations contention. Windows keeps a list of which programs to use > >>> to > >>> open particular file types...so by default when you double-click that > >>> kind > >>> of file, Windows will know what to do with it (open .doc files with M$ > >>> Word for example...). > >>> > >>> Many multimedia apps ask you when you install them if you want to > >>> associate the application with ALL multimedia types (that it is > >>> compatible > >>> with)...such as mp3 / mp4, avi, wmv, flac, playing DVDs etc etc > >>> (there's > >>> loads of formats) and it's easy to overlook this setting when zipping > >>> through the install screens. I recently did a full install of the > >>> software > >>> that came with my DVD burner and it included a flaming media player > >>> (Nero), on top of all the other ones I have...as if I needed another > >>> one > >>> FFS... > >>> > >>> Can become a bit messy after a while as well, once you have several > >>> applications on your PC that aim to do the same thing, some of which > >>> will > >>> attempt to load automatically when your PC starts, automatically > >>> update, > >>> and many of which share core Windows system files & settings(dlls etc). > >>> > >>> Good rule of thumb is to pick a decent one that covers most bases and > >>> ignore the others. You probably don't need Quicktime on a Windows PC > >>> for > >>> example, avi files can be opened in VLC or Win Media Player. (And good > >>> luck if you're brave enough to use iTunes - we hates it precious ;p) > >>> > >>> If you want to change the file associations let me know, or Google it > >>> if > >>> you want, there's multiple ways to do it, pretty standard on Windows > >>> from > >>> 2000 on. Or you can simply re-install the player you want to use and > >>> let > >>> it reclaim the associations. > >>> > >>> The less programs you have on Windows the quicker it goes and less > >>> messy > >>> it gets, generally. > >>> > >>> > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Stephen > Lawrence <stephen.l at live.com> > >>> > wrote: > >>> > > >>> >> thanks bo > >>> >> ?? to be honest i don't know which version i have ..i'm a bit wary > >>> of > >>> >> downloads and installations ..i was once told that programs > >>> can''fight > >>> >> '' > >>> >> with each other whether that is true i don;t know > >>> >> ?? i have vlc and real player and win amp but prefer media player > >>> for > >>> >> the > >>> >> database > >>> > > >>> > Both and, programs cannot as such interfere with eachother, but > >>> codecs > >>> > and dll's can and will at every given chance. This is why i > >>> > recommended smplayer and/or vlc, since they both use their own sets > >>> of > >>> > codecs instead of using (and cluttering) the standard DirectShow set > >>> > that Windows Media Player and virtually every other media player use. > >>> > > >>> > To find the version of nearly any Windows program, click "Help" and > >>> > then "About". > >>> > > >>> > Also, if you already have vlc, you should be able to play WMA and WMV > >>> > with it. Just make sure you have the latest version from > >>> > www.videolan.org and you're all set. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > b > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> > Gathering mailing list > >>> > Gathering at misera.net > >>> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Gathering mailing list > >>> Gathering at misera.net > >>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > >> > >> _____ > >> > >> Windows Live Messenger just got better. 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At 04:38 PM 5/1/2009, ade wrote: >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C9CA9C.CEBCBAE7" >Content-class: urn:content-classes:message > >27 minutes from sending to receiving. >-----Original Message----- >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net >[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of ade >Sent: 01 May 2009 21:05 >To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) >Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > >Well, it's easy when you can design the whole >system from end to end & work out the compatibilities >in test. Windows has to run on improvised >hardware. Explains a lot, though mentioned rarely. >-----Original Message----- >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net >[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn >Sent: 01 May 2009 20:23 >To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' >Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > >You said it all when you said Acer they are >disastrous, the tecchies I know haven?t >recommended them for about 10 years now. Apple >do make very solid reliable hardware for media, >that?s for sure good call going Mac for that, no arguments at all. > > > >---------- >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net >[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace >Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 04:51 >To: 'The Exorcist'; dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; >'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' >Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > > > >Heh! > > > >Well, the final straw for me was when my Acer >committed seppuku mid-set (had to revert to a >backing-track CD I had to hand). Now the only >headache I have is to find something with which >to effectively tape over the fucking illuminated >apple on the MacBook lid, which would otherwise >make a stage look like it?s got the Chemical Brothers on it. > > > >Darren > >Hungerford, UK > > > >From: The Exorcist [mailto:killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com] >Sent: 01 May 2009 19:39 >To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about >all things Killing Joke (the band!) >Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > > > >Wimp! :) > >At 02:09 PM 5/1/2009, Darren A. Peace wrote: > >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02D6_01C9CA90.6488FB50" >Content-Language: en-gb > >Next thing I?d look at in that case is whether >the BIOS is allocating slots itself, or relying >on a ?Plug & Play Operating System? to do it. >This kind of thing is hugely irritating, and is >part of the reason I?ve moved to a MacBook Pro for music stuff. > >Darren >Hungerford, UK > >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ >mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil >Sent: 01 May 2009 18:35 >To: gathering at misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > >Cheers, but yes we went through that. It still >insists on 'reverting' after every shutdown. > > > >---------- >From: dpeace at bigfoot.com >To: gathering at misera.net >Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 18:02:51 +0100 >Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead >Apologies if you?re past this, but : is the >original soundcard integrated into the >motherboard? Even if not, I?d take a look at the >BIOS options and see if you can physically >select the PCI slot with the new soundcard. > >Darren >Hungerford, UK > >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ >mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil >Sent: 01 May 2009 16:24 >To: gathering at misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > >iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! >That little ficker tried taking over every sound >device on my pc. It is now gone! >Windows, still insists on using its own primary >s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the >original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ >Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. > > >---------- >Windows Live? 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URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Fri May 1 17:57:00 2009 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 22:57:00 +0100 Subject: [kj] How the swine flu spreads Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097262@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Frightening - he's only five, otherwise I'd have left him to sweat it out ;) Still seems delirious, but temperature raise is minor now. Fell out of the hospital bed head first & now has a black eye too. Now we're paranoid regards concussion. Talk about being on-edge! Thanks for asking. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 01 May 2009 22:15 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] How the swine flu spreads Shit. It's worrying when that happens. All sorted now? Darren Hungerford, UK -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade Sent: 01 May 2009 21:43 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] How the swine flu spreads Love it ;) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8028974.stm Spent last night in hospital as my son's temperature went up to 40 within one hour. The doctors were straight in there: get down the hospital, check meningitis, have you been anywhere on holiday, etc. They seemed pretty well-prepared, which is good news. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 29 April 2009 18:46 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: [kj] How the swine flu spreads If I can get an 85 KB email through this might raise a smile... _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com Fri May 1 17:59:05 2009 From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com (The Exorcist) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 17:59:05 -0400 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo> <013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo> <21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh> <37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com> <34486.203.210.68.145.1241176018.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <022601c9ca53$d7a1a0c0$86e4e240$@com> <43619.203.210.68.145.1241181549.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <024601c9ca63$c022f7e0$4068e7a0$@com> <02a701c9ca7e$a99ae300$fcd0a900$@com> <736D1D4398E641E78B744022DAE3E697@HeadHigh> <033401c9ca8c$ab695910$023c0b30$@com> <06FA9DB77D9F42EDAA3F2184E17FCD27@HeadHigh> <0KIZ00A24F79D6F0@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Message-ID: <0KIZ00DA5JQJCM91@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> I'd recommend that the first thing you do is make sure that onboard audio is disabled in the bios. Once that is out of the way feel free to plow forth any which you think is good. :) At 04:59 PM 5/1/2009, folk devil wrote: >Nice plan! Who is in LA? >Serioulsy though, thanks for all the >suggestions. Once at home I will try the suggestions not already attempted.. >Somedays I miss those old two tracks! ;) > >---------- >Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 16:21:08 -0400 >From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com >To: gathering at misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > >Fuck this shit... We're all going to dinner at Folk's house and fix his PC. >We work, he sponsors food! > >At 03:18 PM 5/1/2009, Brendan Quinn wrote: >Yeah it was more a list of things I?d try, >probably not good advice to give anyone not >familiar with all the settings etc more of a >braindump of possible things I?d try. But hardly >any standard PCs have RAID and eSata though (nice rig if you do!). > > >---------- >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ >mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace >Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 04:43 >To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' >Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > >All fine advice apart from > >Remove the CMOS battery for 10 mins > >I?d only do this if a) you have made accurate >notes of all your BIOS settings and b) are keen >to spend hours reoptimising things and getting >any RAID arrays & ESATA drives working again. > >Reason I went for the BIOS PCI allocations first >is because this recently sorted an unrecognised tape drive issue. > >Best of luck! > >Darren >Hungerford, UK > >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ >mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn >Sent: 01 May 2009 19:01 >To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' >Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > >Try all of the following: > >Go into Control Panel, Sound (or similar >depending on Windows version) and make sure the >sound device selected is the add-on card >Remove the device entirely from Device Manager, >re-install drivers, make sure they are the >manufacturer?s, and the latest versions >Disable the device in Device Manager >Make sure there is nothing plugged into the >Remove the CMOS battery for 10 mins >Update the firmware on the motherboard and sound card >Try another PCI slot >Reinstalling windows is totally wac for an issue like this (!) >Google the issue you have including the >sound-card and motherboard model numbers, see if >anyone else has that issue with that hardware > >---------- >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ >mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil >Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 03:35 >To: gathering at misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > >Cheers, but yes we went through that. It still >insists on 'reverting' after every shutdown. > > > >---------- >From: dpeace at bigfoot.com >To: gathering at misera.net >Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 18:02:51 +0100 >Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead >Apologies if you?re past this, but : is the >original soundcard integrated into the >motherboard? Even if not, I?d take a look at the >BIOS options and see if you can physically >select the PCI slot with the new soundcard. > >Darren >Hungerford, UK > >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ >mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil >Sent: 01 May 2009 16:24 >To: gathering at misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > >iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! >That little ficker tried taking over every sound >device on my pc. It is now gone! >Windows, still insists on using its own primary >s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the >original s/c no longer on the drive. 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URL: From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Fri May 1 18:16:07 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 08:16:07 +1000 Subject: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview In-Reply-To: <954225.25572.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <843327.2940.qm@web110205.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><38295.203.210.68.145.1241116041.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <954225.25572.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <702BAD80BD7B47A484C6FA30848DB48F@HeadHigh> Really, I wasn?t aware of any excellence on the part of his father? _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 07:02 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview Yes, the irony of it all is amazing. Prolly felt swamped out of his own self by performance demands, having to live in the shadow of his father and his genius brother. I'd have to reread the early stuff about him but just watching him, it's clear there were, shall we say, a few "rapids" in that stream. (btw, the obit on his late father... his late dad's accomplishments make Jaz look like an anemic slacker in comparison. maybe someone can repost it?). ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' _____ From: Brendan To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 11:27:21 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview Jaz self-elected Christianity and was winning awards for the violin (or dreaming of it, who knows) while his brother was gearing up his nogggin for a career in nuclear physics :) > RE: Geordie's behavior.. > > They all look like they've had, um,? 'rough' beginnings.? The music > spells? it out also. > > > ... ... ... ... ... ... > > [looking at the current? state of things..] > ? > 'Save me... > ? save me? from Tomorrow.. > ? ? ? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'? ? > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Bette Dillinger > To: gathering at misera.net > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 5:08:40 PM > Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview > > Hey! Thanks for posting this article.? I only remember from that era > sneaking into "Noir Leather" in Royal Oak and being rather taken aback > that "Change" was being used to promote their S&M line.? Had no idea he > lived there....I just knew Patti Smith was in the area and I was wishing > somehow that I would see her....but she was in St Clair Shores.? Would > love to know what little Atticus is like now.....and if he plays the > guitar with his pops (for some reason I think the answer is negative, but > who knows). > ? > Re:? Geordie's behavior....just an armchair psychological view....he > looks? in that interview that Oliver posted to be very used to chaos and > violence (and not just from the battles in KJ).....eyes glazing over the > second Jaz becomes even slightly more animated....? I think that he > learned that at a young age "zoning out" is the best protection?? Post > Traumatic Stress Disorder?? ? There is a sadness about him, despite > his? incredible gifts or maybe because of them.? ? > ? > Bette? ? > ? > ? ? > ? > ________________________________ > To: gathering at misera.net > From: judithmuehlenbeck at freenet.de > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 01:06:25 +0200 > Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview > > This doesn't explain how he makes a crust, but found it interesting - bit > of Geordie's family & biography: > > http://www.anirrationaldomain.net/articles/1992-1996/detroitfreepress281194.html > > Judith > > ----- original Nachricht -------- > > Betreff: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview > Gesendet: Di 28 Apr 2009 19:05:39 CEST > Von: "Brendan Quinn" > > > What???s the deal with Geordie? Anyone gotten to know him, had a chat, > whatevers? The guy???s in my top 10 guitarists, possibly top 5, I totally > love his playing, but does anyone know what he???s all about? Lots of > attention goes to Jazz and Raven and Youth and fair enough, but what???s > the deal with this guy? His sounds totally, totally rock my world, coming > from the metal 101 background that I do. But he seems pretty impassive, > stoic, I dunno???sits in the Coleman shadow. And yeah, how does he make a > crust when he???s not doing KJ stuff, as someone has asked before???? I > suppose their back catalog royalties pays a bit, but would it be enough to > live on? Perhaps some rich fucker has him retained as a personal bard to > play on corporate jets? > ? > > ________________________________ > > From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On > Behalf Of jerry bodkin > Sent: Wednesday, 29 April 2009 02:40 > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview > ? > ? > ? I beg your pardon? > ? > ? Jelly confused > ? > > ________________________________ > > From: stephen.l at live.com > To: gathering at misera.net > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:54:12 0000 > Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview > > is that the knowing smile that we have? been and continue to be cheated by > the system jelbod?..and there is a way out without riotingif you exercise > your rights under common law ..nice to know our forfathers put in place a > charter to cover what is happening now ..shame the masses are oblivious of > it ...and the system? makes sure it stays that? way ..oh the wisdom of > god's holy words ''seek and you will find ,knock and it will be opened > unto you '' > ? > > ________________________________ > > From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk > To: gathering at misera.net > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:46:27 0100 > Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview > > > ? his facial expressions aret he same as mine 24 hours a day. > ? > ? Lol Jonn, went back and re-watched it. Perplexed and or confused. > ? > ? Jel > > ________________________________ > > From: jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk > To: gathering at misera.net > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:28:24 0000 > Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview > > ? re: geordie? 8:30 - 8:46? - his facial expressions aret he same as > mine 24 hours a day. > > ? > ? > ? > > > > ? > > ________________________________ > > From: stephen.l at live.com > To: gathering at misera.net > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:12:18 0000 > Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview > > regarding loose cannon vid which i have the dvd of isn't it more tribal [ > maori ] looking .[ similar to pandemonium ]? but yes i concur that jaz > raises a smile and is so right on the money about britain's revolutionary > potential > ? >> From: fatpotanga at gmail.com >> To: gathering at misera.net >> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:51:54 0100 >> Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview >> >> I sometimes need a reminder of why i love Killing Joke & that, Mr >> Sheppard was an excellent interview. >> Even Gerodie got a word in at the beginning :) >> >> "they [british working class] don't like revolutions - it get's in the >> way of tea time" >> Fantastic sound bite if ever there was! >> >> I also love the bit from 8:31 where he forgets how to speak & sounds >> like a 4 year old :) >> >> I know it got slated on here but I'd also forgotten how much I liked >> the Loose Cannon vid. >> >> >> >> On 28 Apr 2009, at 05:10, B. 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Most do: > > http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=teabagger > > _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_more_042009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Fri May 1 18:22:28 2009 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 23:22:28 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097265@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Just give it a kick (I mean restart it, the mailserver daemon, or the port 25 daemon). Or just piss on it. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of The Exorcist Sent: 01 May 2009 22:55 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Yup, we're getting a wee bit laggy. Maybe we need to chip on and upgrade the mailserver? At 04:38 PM 5/1/2009, ade wrote: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C9CA9C.CEBCBAE7" Content-class: urn:content-classes:message 27 minutes from sending to receiving. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of ade Sent: 01 May 2009 21:05 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Well, it's easy when you can design the whole system from end to end & work out the compatibilities in test. Windows has to run on improvised hardware. Explains a lot, though mentioned rarely. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 01 May 2009 20:23 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead You said it all when you said Acer...they are disastrous, the tecchies I know haven't recommended them for about 10 years now. Apple do make very solid reliable hardware for media, that's for sure...good call going Mac for that, no arguments at all. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 04:51 To: 'The Exorcist'; dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Heh! Well, the final straw for me was when my Acer committed seppuku mid-set (had to revert to a backing-track CD I had to hand). Now the only headache I have is to find something with which to effectively tape over the fucking illuminated apple on the MacBook lid, which would otherwise make a stage look like it's got the Chemical Brothers on it. Darren Hungerford, UK From: The Exorcist [ mailto:killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com] Sent: 01 May 2009 19:39 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Wimp! :) At 02:09 PM 5/1/2009, Darren A. Peace wrote: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02D6_01C9CA90.6488FB50" Content-Language: en-gb Next thing I'd look at in that case is whether the BIOS is allocating slots itself, or relying on a "Plug & Play Operating System" to do it. This kind of thing is hugely irritating, and is part of the reason I've moved to a MacBook Pro for music stuff. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 01 May 2009 18:35 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Cheers, but yes we went through that. It still insists on 'reverting' after every shutdown. _____ From: dpeace at bigfoot.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 18:02:51 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Apologies if you're past this, but : is the original soundcard integrated into the motherboard? Even if not, I'd take a look at the BIOS options and see if you can physically select the PCI slot with the new soundcard. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 01 May 2009 16:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. 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Talk about being on-edge! > >Thanks for asking. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net >[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace >Sent: 01 May 2009 22:15 >To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' >Subject: Re: [kj] How the swine flu spreads > > >Shit. It's worrying when that happens. > >All sorted now? > >Darren >Hungerford, UK > >-----Original Message----- >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On >Behalf Of ade >Sent: 01 May 2009 21:43 >To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) >Subject: Re: [kj] How the swine flu spreads > >Love it ;) > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8028974.stm > >Spent last night in hospital as my son's temperature went up to 40 >within one hour. The doctors were straight in there: get down the >hospital, check meningitis, have you been anywhere on holiday, etc. > >They seemed pretty well-prepared, which is good news. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net >[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn >Sent: 29 April 2009 18:46 >To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' >Subject: [kj] How the swine flu spreads > > >If I can get an 85 KB email through this might raise a smile... > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering at misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering at misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering at misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Peace >To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) >Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 3:55:00 PM >Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > >Mexican pork. > > > >Darren > >Hungerford, UK > > > >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net >[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Karen Weil >Sent: 01 May 2009 23:17 >To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) >Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > > > >What's on the menu? ; ) > > > >kw. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: jo > >To: A list about all things Killing >Joke (the band!) > >Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 2:41 PM > >Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > > > >I'll take you up on that if he doesn't! > > > >Fuck this shit... We're all going to dinner at Folk's house and fix his PC. >We work, he sponsors food! > > >---------- >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering at misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering at misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Fri May 1 19:14:27 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 16:14:27 -0700 Subject: [kj] Play dead References: rv.hcvlny.cv.net> <003b01c9caa5$98405fa0$0600000a@jo> <04a501c9caaf$dbfbf560$93f3e020$@com> Message-ID: Oh, dear. We're in bigger trouble than I thought. ; ) I'll ready the undertaker ... k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren A. Peace To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Mexican pork. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: 01 May 2009 23:17 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead What's on the menu? ; ) kw. ----- Original Message ----- From: jo To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I'll take you up on that if he doesn't! Fuck this shit... We're all going to dinner at Folk's house and fix his PC. 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He's just been teasing his mother, so I think the little beggar's well on the road to recovery! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of The Exorcist Sent: 01 May 2009 23:37 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] How the swine flu spreads Wishing for a quick recovery! RE: The Black Eye.... It's a sign that he's a future gatherer! :) TTYL Ade. At 05:57 PM 5/1/2009, ade wrote: Frightening - he's only five, otherwise I'd have left him to sweat it out ;) Still seems delirious, but temperature raise is minor now. Fell out of the hospital bed head first & now has a black eye too. Now we're paranoid regards concussion. Talk about being on-edge! Thanks for asking. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 01 May 2009 22:15 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] How the swine flu spreads Shit. It's worrying when that happens. All sorted now? Darren Hungerford, UK -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade Sent: 01 May 2009 21:43 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] How the swine flu spreads Love it ;) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8028974.stm Spent last night in hospital as my son's temperature went up to 40 within one hour. The doctors were straight in there: get down the hospital, check meningitis, have you been anywhere on holiday, etc. They seemed pretty well-prepared, which is good news. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 29 April 2009 18:46 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' 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Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: 01 May 2009 23:17 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead What's on the menu? ; ) kw. ----- Original Message ----- From: jo To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I'll take you up on that if he doesn't! Fuck this shit... We're all going to dinner at Folk's house and fix his PC. 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I mean, flew. *badum pssh* >> >> >> >> >>... ... ... ... ... ... >> >>[looking at the current state of things..] >> >>'Save me... >> save me from Tomorrow.. >> I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' >> >> >> >> >>From: Darren A. Peace <dpeace at bigfoot.com> >>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) >>Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 3:55:00 PM >>Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead >> >>Mexican pork. >> >> >> >>Darren >> >>Hungerford, UK >> >> >> >>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ >>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Karen Weil >>Sent: 01 May 2009 23:17 >>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) >>Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead >> >> >> >>What's on the menu? ; ) >> >> >> >>kw. >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: jo >>To: A list about all things Killing >>Joke (the band!) >>Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 2:41 PM >>Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead >> >> >> >>I'll take you up on that if he doesn't! >> >> >> >>Fuck this shit... 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Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Mexican pork. ? Darren Hungerford, UK ? From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: 01 May 2009 23:17 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead ? What's on the menu? ; ) ? kw. ----- Original Message ----- From:jo To:A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent:Friday, May 01, 2009 2:41 PM Subject:Re: [kj] Play dead ? I'll take you up on that if he doesn't! ? Fuck this shit... We're all going to dinner at Folk's house and fix his PC. 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URL: From jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk Fri May 1 20:45:09 2009 From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk (jo) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 01:45:09 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead References: rv.hcvlny.cv.net><003b01c9caa5$98405fa0$0600000a@jo><04a501c9caaf$dbfbf560$93f3e020$@com> Message-ID: <014201c9cabf$3e694360$0600000a@jo> Shan't be needing the undertaker, can't let things go to waste:-) I suggest BBQ'd body parts (feel free to bring your own) accompanied by freshly foraged wild mushrooms, cresses and garlic served with spicy, jellied stomach contents (again, feel free to bring your own). Dessert will be my own take on a Rum Baba - I called it my 'Sweet Steaming Floater' Oh, dear. We're in bigger trouble than I thought. ; ) I'll ready the undertaker ... k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren A. Peace To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Mexican pork. 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At 07:38 PM 5/1/2009, Karen Weil wrote: Don't be late for dinner, Exo! ; ) ? Cheers, ? k.w. SoCal ----- Original Message ----- From: The Exorcist To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Ha! At 07:00 PM 5/1/2009, sade1 wrote: And pigs fly. I mean, flew.?? *badum pssh* ? ? ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] ? 'Save me... ? save me from Tomorrow.. ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? ? From: Darren A. Peace To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 3:55:00 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Mexican pork. ? Darren Hungerford, UK ? From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: 01 May 2009 23:17 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead ? 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I hear the rates are better these days, > though, due to the wretched economy. ; ) > > Cheers, > > KW > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ade" > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" > > Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 1:15 PM > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economistPaulKrugman onthe > economic crisis > > > Pay to see tea-bagging? Most do: > > http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=teabagger > > _____ Windows LiveT HotmailR:.more than just e-mail. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.13/2091 - Release Date: 05/01/09 17:52:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com Fri May 1 20:01:17 2009 From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 01:01:17 +0100 Subject: [kj] FW: The Rakes, Gang of Four, Port O'Brien, Deftones and more In-Reply-To: <1214582452.77504@meanfiddler.com> References: <1214582452.77504@meanfiddler.com> Message-ID: some bands playing here you lot may be interested in details below ok milindafgrant Subject: The Rakes, Gang of Four, Port O'Brien, Deftones and more Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 16:38:21 -0700 To: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com From: noreply at meanfiddler.com HMV Hammersmith ApolloThe HMV ForumHeavenJazz Caf?The BorderlineULUBarflyThe Fly The Rakes, Gang of Four, Deftones, Road to V, Port O'Brien, Kira Kira ticket offer and more... Highlights SJM Concerts presents The Rakes HMV Forum || Thu 29 Oct || ?15 Economical with their writing, focused on the job at hand. Tight, concise, sharp, meaningful and glorious, The Rakes sound better than ever. HMV Tickets Ticketmaster Ticket-Text Mean Fiddler presents Gang of Four: Entertainment! Anniversary Celebrations HMV Forum || Sat 26 Sep ?25 || ON SALE SAT 2 MAY 9AM Gang Of Four is one of the most radical, and radically important, rock groups of the last 30 years. More than anything, Gang Of Four are about visceral, high energy, maximum impact rock 'n' roll. They make you dance and they make you sweat just as they make you think. The performance will include all of Entertainment! plus songs spanning this bands remarkable career, with a promise of new material. Ticketmaster Festival Republic presents Deftones HMV Forum || Thu 27 Aug || ?20 Seminal rock band from Sacramento featuring Chino Moreno's distinct vocals and trademark wall of sound / melodic guitars, Deftones are metal's standard bearers and sound as amazing as ever. Ticketmaster Ticket-Text Road to V semi finalists announced Had your eye on Virgin Media's Road to V? The public votes are in and the mentors, Just Jack and The Charlatans, have spoken. To find out which of the unsigned acts are in with the chance of opening this year's V Festival, check out roadtov.com now. Mean Fiddler presents James McMurtry & The Heartless Bastards The Garage || Mon 5 Oct || ?15 Astute Texan no-holds-barred chronicler of the human condition, McMurtry's new album Just Us Kids is sonically majestic and confirms him as "the truest, fiercest songwriter of his generation." (Stephen King) Ticketweb Ticket-Text Live Nation presents Silversun Pickups Heaven || Tue 7 Jul || ?11 Following sold out shows at Barfly and Borderline, Silversun Pickups find themselves in Heaven creating trademark distorted noise embellished by string flourishes. This is beauty and aggression rolled into one. HMV Tickets Ticketweb Ticket-Text Mean Fiddler presents Luke Pickett The Garage || Fri 25 Sep || ?7 With a debut album out autumn this year This young man has a way of spinning a classic love tale into an ?ber-romantic twisted musical sonnet with his unique soaring vocals and signature falsetto. Luke Pickett is the troubadour sent back from the future to wake us up from the banality of shoe-gazing retro hippies. Ticketweb Ticket-Text Mean Fiddler & Eat Your Own Ears present Port O'Brien Borderline || Tue 18 Aug || ?8 'One of the dreamiest albums of the year' The Guardian "...it's clear why Johnny Marr is touting the Californian throng as his new favourite band. We've developed a bit of a crush." -NME "...charmingly rendered ? teeming with joyous abandon a la the Arcade Fire." 4/5 stars -Uncut Ticketweb Ticket-Text Live Nation presents Little Boots Heaven || Thu 28 May || ?8.50 More tickets just released but going fast?. Ticketweb Mean Fiddler presents The Dodge Brothers The Garage || Fri 2 Oct || ?10 Singing songs about transport, heartbreak and homicide, The Dodge Brothers are renowned for playing the hell out of classic Americana. With TV and radio presenter Mark Kermode thumping out the rhythm, this roughneck trio have got feet stomping and hands clapping from California through the Natchez Trace to the South coast of the UK. Ticketweb Ticket-Text Just Announced Mean Fiddler presents LO'JOJazz Cafe || Thu 4 June || ?13.50 World music scene veterans, French band Lo'Jo weave diverse influences into a stream of surreal poetry and caf? chanson, with timelessly Gallic theatricality. "They have to be one of the best live bands in the world now."-The Independent Ticketmaster Ticket-Text Mean Fiddler presents Ashley Slater's Freak PowerJazz Caf? || Sat 27 June || ?13.50 Ex Loose Tubes trombonist Slater reforms Freak Power (founded by Norman Cook) for a night of acid jazz, funk, soul and trip hop. 'Turn On, Tune In, Cop Out'. Ticketmaster Ticket-Text Mean Fiddler presents An AlbatrossBorderline || Sat 18 Jul || ?8 US noise rock band, who played sold out shows with enter Shikari last year, known for their chaotic live shows and psychedelic /circus-like presentation, their sound is somewhere between The Mars Volta and Fantomas. Ticketweb Ticket-Text Mean Fiddler presents Magnolia Electric CompanyICA || Mon 7 Sep || ?15 American singer-songwriter Jason Molina first came to prominence performing and recording as Songs: Ohia, both in solo projects and with a rotating cast of musicians. Since 2003, he has recorded either under his own name or with a stable line-up of band members as the Magnolia Electric Co. Book Here Barfly presents Illegitimate Sons of a King + This Life Scandal + Yves Klein Blue Camden Barfly || Fri 8 May || ?5 North London four-piece who's 60s guitar sound and hook-laden rhymes create a raucous, freewheeling rap-rock mash up that is truly infectious. Ticketweb London Unsigned presents Vivian & the Rude Radio + The Falling EmbersThe Fly || Mon 15 June || ?5 With a prize of a Single deal with Forty 5 Records including studio time, mastering, artwork and an 8 date UK tour, competition is fierce. Visit londonunsigned.com for more details. Ticketweb Communiversities presents Uni's Got Talent GRAND FINAL HMV Forum || Fri 17 Jul ?10 students ?15 non students For the first time ever, we will witness students from across the country battling it out in a bid to be crowned the UK's most talented student act by a panel of famous faces and industry experts. Ticketmaster Ticket-Text Mean Fiddler presents Dead By April Camden Barfly || Sun 27 Apr || ?6 'Modern melodic metallers' from Gothenburg, Sweden support the May 11th release of their debut digital single 'Losing You' with a debut UK appearance. Ticketweb RSW Concerts present The Grams +Natascha Soul + News From Nowhere + Alex Body BandThe Fly || Sat 27 June || 10.30pm || ?7 Guitar based 4-piece, (two brothers and two life long friends whose sophisticated guitar interplay and solid pounding backline drives killer melodies lock you in. Ticketweb Glasswerk presents Paper Heroes + Just For Kicks The Fly || Wed 3 June || ?6.50 Skins Life New Music gave Paper Heroes the profile they deserve and they now release a single on the Skins Life label. One to watch. Ticketweb More in London King Ramirez + The Absolute Belters + Red Wire _ Zero Punk 15 May Hexagram + Cathode Ray Syndrome + Tin Soldiers 21 May Citadels + Beat The Radar + Perfect People + The Gorgeous Colours + The Bridport Daggers 5 June The Toadies 19 June ARCS + New Street Adventure + Circus Electric + Domino State + Lucy Jane 26 June The Domino Theory + Mallory Knox + Absie 9 Jul Anison + This Life Scandal + Flakes 11 Sep Meretto + The Volt + Citizens 12 Sep Win Win Win KIRA KIRA SPECIAL OFFER Mean Fiddler is very happy to exclusively offer newsletter subscribers the chance to see Kira Kira + Taxi Taxi this Sunday for half price. All you have to do is print out this newsletter and take it with you to the gig on Sunday and you will get entry for ?5 instead of ?10!! Simple as that. Mean Fiddler presents Kira Kira + Taxi Taxi || Borderline || Sun 3 May || doors 7pm Prices quoted are advance price face value excluding booking fees. Door prices are often higher. 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Pacific Daylight Time, bettedillinger at live.com writes: _http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30308262/_ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30308262/) Eat, drink and be merry...... RIP **************Check all of your email inboxes from anywhere on the web. Try the new Email Toolbar now! (http://toolbar.aol.com/mail/download.html?ncid=txtlnkusdown00000027) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From saulomar1 at yahoo.com Sat May 2 16:16:30 2009 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 13:16:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] (so OT) Dutch Royals In-Reply-To: References: <569277.11567.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <005501c9c9c6$65468dc0$2fd3a940$@com> <521432.18474.qm@web110201.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <811704.87935.qm@web110210.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> > Is Rosie O' Donnell gonna warm up the crowd? ;) Yes, with Elisabeth Hasselbeck from The View. Looks like fun: http://suburbarazzi.lohudblogs.com/files/2006/10/rosieliz.jpg http://www.fitnesscure.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/e2.jpg ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things..] ? 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? ________________________________ From: Bette Dillinger To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 6:08:10 PM Subject: Re: [kj] (so OT) Dutch Royals Man, that sounds like a recipe for disaster!??Is Rosie O' Donnell gonna warm up the crowd? ;) ? ________________________________ Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:08:54 -0700 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] (so OT) Dutch Royals He (George)?has, of late, fallen down a deep self-destructive hole in his life. He should meet up with the other?George (Michael).. . . and do a Reunion tour. ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things..] ? 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? ________________________________ From: Darren A. Peace To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 12:03:45 PM Subject: Re: [kj] (so OT) Dutch Royals That?s absolutely appalling. ? Here?s some light relief: ? http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2403844.ece ? Darren Hungerford, UK ? From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: 30 April 2009 18:34 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: [kj] (so OT) Dutch Royals ? Anyone else see this: updated 16 minutes ago Man charged in attempted attack on Dutch royals ? ? ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things..] ? 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? ? ? ________________________________ Windows Live? SkyDrive?: Get 25 GB of free online storage. 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Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a?"successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg? (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things..] ? 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? ________________________________ From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? ? ________________________________ From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead ? iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows,?still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing?the delta 1010, with the original s/c?no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying?at the beginning of each recording session. ? ________________________________ Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From saulomar1 at yahoo.com Sat May 2 16:36:42 2009 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 13:36:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] Isle of Wight update In-Reply-To: <374140CFACE147498A105AE4F9F48E4D@HeadHigh> References: <025b01c9ca6b$e9ef8630$bdce9290$@com> <374140CFACE147498A105AE4F9F48E4D@HeadHigh> Message-ID: <93344.68016.qm@web110204.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> 8~| *actually like that song* ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things..] ? 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? ________________________________ From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:50:07 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update To rai lou rai lou rai eh? ? ________________________________ From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 03:27 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update ? ?"Come On Eileen ... You're Dinner."? ? (*groan ...* Just standard Vegas lounge humor)? ; ) ? ? Cheers, ? k.w. ? ? ----- Original Message ----- From:Brendan Quinn To:'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent:Friday, May 01, 2009 8:19 AM Subject:Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update ? Dexy?s Midnight Runners? ? ________________________________ From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 00:49 To: ' A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update ? ...that?s populated by strange people in dungarees with a predilection for human sacrifice and cannibalism. ? Darren Hungerford, UK ? From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence Sent: 01 May 2009 15:23 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update ? err greg it is an island off the coast of england and part of the uk ? ________________________________ From: gregslawson at msn.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 10:02:29 -0400 Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update The Slits and?A Certain Ratio in one day? Holy fuck! I'm moving to... (what country is it in?) ? ________________________________ From: kjlist at live.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:34:18 -0500 Subject: [kj] Isle of Wight update For those who care, KJ have now been formally confirmed for the Isle of Wight Festival, per the web site: ? http://www.isleofwightfestival.com/big-top.aspx ? In the tent as part of the Tim Burgess-curated Sunday night with Charlatans, Horrors and the Black Lips, et. al. ? Sorry to interrupt. You may resume the swine flu discussion and gay jokes. ________________________________ Rediscover Hotmail?: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry Check it out. ________________________________ Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. Check it out. ________________________________ Windows Live Messenger just got better. Find out more! No virus found in this incoming message. 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URL: From saulomar1 at yahoo.com Sat May 2 16:47:34 2009 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 13:47:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] was Isle of Wight update, now Youtube KJ mashups, In-Reply-To: <2FAE673864884122A3EFEFCB4B2F1FEB@HeadHigh> References: <2FAE673864884122A3EFEFCB4B2F1FEB@HeadHigh> Message-ID: <241935.44545.qm@web110205.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I'll see you and I'll raise you a KJ/Nirvana mashup*: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8saQ3PtCrro and one of KJ, Nirv., and clips of Bowie's "Ashes....' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASA3o8vvLtI *sorry if?posted ?here sooner ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things..] ? 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? ________________________________ From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:48:23 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update Kick ass! Check out this fucking epic mashup someone just sent me ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tprMEs-zfQA&eurl=http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,28348,25407968-5014239,00.html&feature=player_embedded ? ? ? ________________________________ From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:48 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DIFuQq0r6M ? ________________________________ From: gregslawson at msn.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 11:07:56 -0400 Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update Thanks--I keep seeing a concert from there on cable TV but didn't know where it was. ? ________________________________ From: stephen.l at live.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 14:23:23 +0000 Subject: Re: [kj] Isle of Wight update err greg it is an island off the coast of england and part of the uk ? ________________________________ ? ________________________________ Rediscover Hotmail?: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. 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I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? ________________________________ From: ade To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 2:33:51 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winningeconomistPaulKrugman onthe economic crisis Yes, when money's tight, things get squeezed 'til the 'pips' squeak. So to speak ;) -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: 01 May 2009 22:00 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winningeconomistPaulKrugman onthe economic crisis Yes, yes, ade. I know that much. I hear the rates are better these days, though, due to the wretched economy. ; ) Cheers, KW ----- Original Message ----- From: "ade" To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economistPaulKrugman onthe economic crisis Pay to see tea-bagging? Most do: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=teabagger -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: 01 May 2009 18:29 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economist PaulKrugman onthe economic crisis I'd pay good money to see *that* (the teabagging, that is.) Galbraith is brilliant. Armey? Not so much. k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 2:11 AM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman onthe economic crisis Brendan, you would probably like this. James K. Galbraith debating tea-bagger leader Dick Armey, just came out today (May 1, 2009): Causes of the Crisis James K. Galbraith | May 01, 2009 | Commentary Editor?s note: These remarks were delivered to a meeting of the Texas Lyceum in Austin on April 3, at a debate between University of Texas professor James Galbraith, an Observer contributing writer, and former Majority Leader Richard Armey, chief instigator of the recent Astroturf ?tea party" protests. Armey had begun his remarks by noting that his rule in life was ?never trust anyone from Austin or Boston,? and proceeded to declare his allegiance to the ?Austrian School? of economics, a libertarian view that regards public intervention in private markets as socialism. GALBRAITH: It is of course a pleasure to be with you today. I was born in Boston, and I am proud of it. And I have lived 24 years in Austin?and I?m proud of that. Leader Armey spoke to you of his admiration for Austrian economics. I can?t resist telling you that when the Vienna Economics Institute celebrated its centennial, many years ago, they invited, as their keynote speaker, my father [John Kenneth Galbraith]. The leading economists of the Austrian school?including von Hayek and von Haberler?returned for the occasion. And so my father took a moment to reflect on the economic triumphs of the Austrian Republic since the war, which, he said, ?would not have been possible without the contribution of these men.? They nodded?briefly?until it dawned on them what he meant. They?d all left the country in the 1930s. My own economics is American: genus Institutionalist; species: Galbraithian. This is a panel on the crisis. Mr. Moderator, you ask what is the root cause? My reply is in three parts. First, an idea. The idea that capitalism, for all its considerable virtues, is inherently self-stabilizing, that government and private business are adversaries rather than partners; the idea that freedom without responsibility is a viable business principle; the idea that regulation, in financial matters especially, can be dispensed with. We tried it, and we see the result. Second, a person. It would not be right to blame any single person for these events, but if I had to choose one to name it would be a Texan, our own distinguished former Senator Phil Gramm. I?d cite specifically the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act?the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act?in 1999, after which it took less than a decade to reproduce all the pathologies that Glass-Steagall had been enacted to deal with in 1933. 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URL: From saulomar1 at yahoo.com Sat May 2 17:08:07 2009 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 14:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview In-Reply-To: <702BAD80BD7B47A484C6FA30848DB48F@HeadHigh> References: <843327.2940.qm@web110205.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><38295.203.210.68.145.1241116041.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <954225.25572.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <702BAD80BD7B47A484C6FA30848DB48F@HeadHigh> Message-ID: <860743.64314.qm@web110207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> ?? As I?vaguely recall, his dad fought in WWII, built schools where there weren't any but desperately needed in his home area, and when enough teachers couldn't be found to staff the schools he went back to school?to earn a teaching degree just so he can teach to the kids in the school he built. There was other stuff mentioned, too. P.S. Oh, and he had two sons with his wife. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things..] ? 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? ________________________________ From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 3:16:07 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview Really, I wasn?t aware of any excellence on the part of his father? ? ________________________________ From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 07:02 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview ? Yes, the irony of it all is amazing. ? Prolly felt swamped out of his own self by performance demands, having to live?in the shadow of his father and his genius brother. I'd have to reread the early stuff about him but just watching him, it's clear there were, shall we say, a few "rapids" in that stream. (btw, ?the obit?on his late father... his late dad's accomplishments?make Jaz look like?an anemic slacker in comparison. maybe someone can repost it?). ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things..] ? 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? ? ? ? ________________________________ From:Brendan < bq at soundgardener.co.nz > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 11:27:21 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview Jaz self-elected Christianity and was winning awards for the violin (or dreaming of it, who knows) while his brother was gearing up his nogggin for a career in nuclear physics :) > RE: Geordie's behavior.. > > They all look like they've had, um,??'rough' beginnings.?? The music > spells??it out also. > > > ... ... ... ... ... ... > > [looking at the current??state of things..] > ?? > 'Save me... > ?? save me??from Tomorrow.. > ?????? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'???? > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Bette Dillinger > To: gathering at misera.net > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 5:08:40 PM > Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview > > Hey! Thanks for posting this article.?? I only remember from that era > sneaking into "Noir Leather" in Royal Oak and being rather taken aback > that "Change" was being used to promote their S&M line.?? Had no idea he > lived there....I just knew Patti Smith was in the area and I was wishing > somehow that I would see her....but she was in St Clair Shores.?? Would > love to know what little Atticus is like now.....and if he plays the > guitar with his pops (for some reason I think the answer is negative, but > who knows). > ?? > Re:?? Geordie's behavior....just an armchair psychological view....he > looks??in that interview that Oliver posted to be very used to chaos and > violence (and not just from the battles in KJ).....eyes glazing over the > second Jaz becomes even slightly more animated....??I think that he > learned that at a young age "zoning out" is the best protection??? Post > Traumatic Stress Disorder?????There is a sadness about him, despite > his??incredible gifts or maybe because of them.???? > ?? > Bette???? > ?? > ???? > ?? > ________________________________ > To: gathering at misera.net > From: judithmuehlenbeck at freenet.de > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 01:06:25 +0200 > Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview > > This doesn't explain how he makes a crust, but found it interesting - bit > of Geordie's family & biography: > > http://www.anirrationaldomain.net/articles/1992-1996/detroitfreepress281194.html > > Judith > > ----- original Nachricht -------- > > Betreff: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview > Gesendet: Di 28 Apr 2009 19:05:39 CEST > Von: "Brendan Quinn" > > > What???s the deal with Geordie? Anyone gotten to know him, had a chat, > whatevers? The guy???s in my top 10 guitarists, possibly top 5, I totally > love his playing, but does anyone know what he???s all about? Lots of > attention goes to Jazz and Raven and Youth and fair enough, but what???s > the deal with this guy? His sounds totally, totally rock my world, coming > from the metal 101 background that I do. But he seems pretty impassive, > stoic, I dunno???sits in the Coleman shadow. And yeah, how does he make a > crust when he???s not doing KJ stuff, as someone has asked before???? I > suppose their back catalog royalties pays a bit, but would it be enough to > live on? Perhaps some rich fucker has him retained as a personal bard to > play on corporate jets? > ?? > > ________________________________ > > From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On > Behalf Of jerry bodkin > Sent: Wednesday, 29 April 2009 02:40 > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview > ?? > ?? > ??I beg your pardon? > ?? > ??Jelly confused > ?? > > ________________________________ > > From: stephen.l at live.com > To: gathering at misera.net > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:54:12 0000 > Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview > > is that the knowing smile that we have??been and continue to be cheated by > the system jelbod?..and there is a way out without riotingif you exercise > your rights under common law ..nice to know our forfathers put in place a > charter to cover what is happening now ..shame the masses are oblivious of > it ...and the system??makes sure it stays that??way ..oh the wisdom of > god's holy words ''seek and you will find ,knock and it will be opened > unto you '' > ?? > > ________________________________ > > From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk > To: gathering at misera.net > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:46:27 0100 > Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview > > > ??his facial expressions aret he same as mine 24 hours a day. > ?? > ??Lol Jonn, went back and re-watched it. Perplexed and or confused. > ?? > ??Jel > > ________________________________ > > From: jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk > To: gathering at misera.net > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:28:24 0000 > Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview > > ??re: geordie?? 8:30 - 8:46?? - his facial expressions aret he same as > mine 24 hours a day. > > ?? > ?? > ?? > > > > ?? > > ________________________________ > > From: stephen.l at live.com > To: gathering at misera.net > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:12:18 0000 > Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview > > regarding loose cannon vid which i have the dvd of isn't it more tribal [ > maori ] looking .[ similar to pandemonium ]? but yes i concur that jaz > raises a smile and is so right on the money about britain 's revolutionary > potential > ?? >> From: fatpotanga at gmail.com >> To: gathering at misera.net >> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:51:54 0100 >> Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Coleman schattenreich interview >> >> I sometimes need a reminder of why i love Killing Joke & that, Mr >> Sheppard was an excellent interview. >> Even Gerodie got a word in at the beginning :) >> >> "they [british working class] don't like revolutions - it get's in the >> way of tea time" >> Fantastic sound bite if ever there was! >> >> I also love the bit from 8:31 where he forgets how to speak & sounds >> like a 4 year old :) >> >> I know it got slated on here but I'd also forgotten how much I liked >> the Loose Cannon vid. >> >> >> >> On 28 Apr 2009, at 05:10, B. 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Or just piss on it. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of The Exorcist Sent: 01 May 2009 22:55 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Yup, we're getting a wee bit laggy. Maybe we need to chip on and upgrade the mailserver? At 04:38 PM 5/1/2009, ade wrote: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; ???????? boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C9CA9C.CEBCBAE7" Content-class: urn:content-classes:message 27 minutes from sending to receiving. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of ade Sent: 01 May 2009 21:05 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Well, it's easy when you can design the whole system from end to end & work out the compatibilities -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 01 May 2009 20:23 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead You said it all when you said Acer?they are disastrous, the tecchies I know haven?t recommended them for about 10 years now. Apple do make very solid reliable hardware for media, that?s for sure?good call going Mac for that, no arguments at all. ________________________________ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 04:51 To: 'The Exorcist'; dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead ? Heh! ? Well, the final straw for me was when my Acer committed seppuku mid-set (had to revert to a backing-track CD I had to hand). Now the only headache I have is to find something with which to effectively tape over the fucking illuminated apple on the MacBook lid, which would otherwise make a stage look like it?s got the Chemical Brothers on it. ? Darren Hungerford, UK ? From: The Exorcist [mailto:killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com] Sent: 01 May 2009 19:39 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead ? Wimp! :) At 02:09 PM 5/1/2009, Darren A. Peace wrote: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; ???????? boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02D6_01C9CA90.6488FB50" Content-Language: en-gb Next thing I?d look at in that case is whether the BIOS is allocating slots itself, or relying on a ?Plug & Play Operating System? to do it. This kind of thing is hugely irritating, and is part of the reason I?ve moved to a MacBook Pro for music stuff. ? Darren Hungerford, UK ? From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 01 May 2009 18:35 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead ? Cheers, but yes we went through that. It still insists on 'reverting' after every shutdown. ________________________________ From: dpeace at bigfoot.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 18:02:51 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Apologies if you?re past this, but : is the original soundcard integrated into the motherboard? Even if not, I?d take a look at the BIOS options and see if you can physically select the PCI slot with the new soundcard. ? Darren Hungerford, UK ? From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 01 May 2009 16:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead ? iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. ________________________________ Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. Check it out. ________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering No virus found in this incoming message. 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Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 6:43:19 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead How about some soy textured protein?? ; ) ? k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: sade1 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > As long as it ain't Pork! No, they're serving?schinken instead. ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things..] ? 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? ________________________________ From: The Exorcist To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 5:18:48 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead As long as it ain't Pork! At 07:38 PM 5/1/2009, Karen Weil wrote: Don't be late for dinner, Exo! ; ) ? Cheers, ? k.w. SoCal ----- Original Message ----- From: The Exorcist To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Ha! At 07:00 PM 5/1/2009, sade1 wrote: And pigs fly. I mean, flew.?? *badum pssh* ? ? ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] ? 'Save me... ? save me from Tomorrow.. ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? ? From: Darren A. Peace To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 3:55:00 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Mexican pork. ? Darren Hungerford, UK ? From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: 01 May 2009 23:17 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead ? What's on the menu? ; ) ? kw. ----- Original Message ----- From: jo To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I'll take you up on that if he doesn't! Fuck this shit... We're all going to dinner at Folk's house and fix his PC. 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Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2009 2:17:30 AM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Nobelprize-winning economistPaulKrugman onthe economic crisis ?Who needs effects, who needs to pay for sex?? ? ________________________________ From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 08:22 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Nobelprize-winning economistPaulKrugman onthe economic crisis ? http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE53K00G20090421 ? > From: karen.weil at sddt.com > To: gathering at misera.net > Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 14:00:22 -0700 > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economistPaulKrugman onthe economic crisis > > Yes, yes, ade. I know that much. I hear the rates are better these days, > though, due to the wretched economy. ; ) > > Cheers, > > KW > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ade" > To: " A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" > > Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 1:15 PM > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economistPaulKrugman onthe > economic crisis > > > Pay to see tea-bagging? Most do: > > http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=teabagger > > ________________________________ Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.13/2091 - Release Date: 05/01/09 17:52:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From saulomar1 at yahoo.com Sat May 2 18:26:33 2009 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 15:26:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] Nobelprize-winning economistPaulKrugman onthe economic crisis In-Reply-To: <3af08c0c94d.2ffe5933@smtp.freeserve.com> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097259@mr-pants.the-lab.local> <42F0F313354B4EDF9CD59526B65C7FA0@HeadHigh> <284565.66927.qm@web110205.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <3af08c0c94d.2ffe5933@smtp.freeserve.com> Message-ID: <693743.11838.qm@web110203.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> They'd blow it. ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things..] ? 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? ________________________________ From: Stephen Robinson To: A list about all things Killing Joke (t Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2009 2:37:47 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Nobelprize-winning economistPaulKrugman onthe economic crisis They'd screw it up. > What would happen if they socialized it (prostitution), or if the > government were to nationalize it? ? > ... ... ... ... ... ... > Back to lerkdom. _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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[looking at the current?state of things..] ? 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? ________________________________ From: The Exorcist To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 2:53:29 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead RealPlayer???? You are a masochist! BTW, they're in the middle of a nice lawsuit now... The MPAA is very unhappy with them. This will be interesting. At 04:38 PM 5/1/2009, sade1 wrote: Since i only need basic play, pause, and playlists, I use RealPlayer. *ducks* (it has a 3 band EQ). Easy as fuck, on very rare occassions may freeze, it's free, and just make sure you delete the realupdate. and realsched. files at the hard drive (don't rely on the player's disabling instructions, they're flawed). ? ? ? ? ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] ? 'Save me... ? save me from Tomorrow.. ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? ? From: Brendan To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 5:39:09 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead At the end of the day I want a little piece of inconspicuous software that plays media files & makes playlists, and maybe has an equaliser. Something free, unobtrusive, won't constantly try to wrest my file associations over to the dark side, install Google fucking toolbar, take 10 mins to install, loads up the iStore every time it opens, reminding me that the kids are all listening to Rhianna these days - yay - and sinks its hooks into the operating system so that if I try to remove it I have to rip half my OS's brain-stem out, set up a hearrtbeat back to the Deathstar in order to *update* itself periodically... In fact I dislike Windows Media Player as well for similar reasons, but it never tried to steal our files, precious, and make them it's own *growl* > Heh. > > The help was for Stephen; I'm clear that your anti-Apple bias means that > you'd rather see Air Supply in concert than load up iTunes. > > Darren > Hungerford, UK > > -----Original Message----- > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > On > Behalf Of Brendan > Sent: 01 May 2009 12:07 > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > > Yeah I know you can do it, I found that setting immediately and enabled > it, just couldn't believe it started doing it automatically, and one of > the reasons it pi$$ed me off is that I'd just spent weeks renaming and > retagging my mp3 files. WEEKS. My OCD wouldn't sit still until I had > everything in my particular format, band name space hyphen space year > space hyphen space album name space hypen space track number space hyphen > space etc. LOL. > > Also generally using the thing - my reaction was, to use a current geek > meme - DO NOT WANT, or FAIL...and performance was pretty $hite too...had a > single core CPU back then. > > Nup. Hated it. I also disliked it because of the iPod hype, I am player > agnostic, no way do I want to be tied in to a fucking Applie application. > So typical of that company, try to lock down the customers' choice and > over-price with marketing hype and branding. Ugh. (And no it's not an > anti-Apple pro-M$ rant, it's merely an anti-Apple rant...). There was some > other drama about not being able to easily share your files with friends' > PCs etc. > > Re Nero...I'm lazy with multimedia stuff, more of a gamer / hardware fan, > never took the time to investigate that. Would be nice to do away with > Nero actually, I have a rebuild coming up in a month or so so I wll do it > then. I just assumed it was a good idea to use the software that came with > the drive, and Nero has always been easy to use. Cheers. > >> Edit > Preferences > Advanced > >> >> >> >> Tick Keep iTunes Music Folder Organised >> >> Untick Copy files to iTunes Music Folder if you don???t want duplicates. >> >> >> >> I have the Copy Files option ticked, so everything is copied to my >> central >> library, and I can then manually delete the original file, which could >> be >> anywhere on my computer. >> >> >> >> Oh, and Brendan? Nero? Hope there???s something in that bloatware that you >> really, really need. I gave up on it at version 5. >> >> >> >> Otherwise, the free ImgBurn (http://www.imgburn.com/ ) does pretty much >> everything I need. >> >> >> >> Darren >> >> Hungerford, UK >> >> >> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] >> On >> Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence >> Sent: 01 May 2009 11:12 >> To: gathering at misera.net >> Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead >> >> >> >> you made me laugh about i-tunes ....yeah i hate it also but have to use >> it >> to put vinyl and tape into my computer ...i hate the way it duplicates >> everything meaning i have to delete loads >> >>> Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 21:55:33 +1200 >>> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz >>> To: gathering at misera.net >>> Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead >>> >>> Multimedia programs do in a sense fight each other, insofar as the file >>> associations contention. Windows keeps a list of which programs to use >>> to >>> open particular file types...so by default when you double-click that >>> kind >>> of file, Windows will know what to do with it (open .doc files with M$ >>> Word for example...). >>> >>> Many multimedia apps ask you when you install them if you want to >>> associate the application with ALL multimedia types (that it is >>> compatible >>> with)...such as mp3 / mp4, avi, wmv, flac, playing DVDs etc etc >>> (there's >>> loads of formats) and it's easy to overlook this setting when zipping >>> through the install screens. I recently did a full install of the >>> software >>> that came with my DVD burner and it included a flaming media player >>> (Nero), on top of all the other ones I have...as if I needed another >>> one >>> FFS... >>> >>> Can become a bit messy after a while as well, once you have several >>> applications on your PC that aim to do the same thing, some of which >>> will >>> attempt to load automatically when your PC starts, automatically >>> update, >>> and many of which share core Windows system files & settings(dlls etc). >>> >>> Good rule of thumb is to pick a decent one that covers most bases and >>> ignore the others. You probably don't need Quicktime on a Windows PC >>> for >>> example, avi files can be opened in VLC or Win Media Player. (And good >>> luck if you're brave enough to use iTunes - we hates it precious ;p) >>> >>> If you want to change the file associations let me know, or Google it >>> if >>> you want, there's multiple ways to do it, pretty standard on Windows >>> from >>> 2000 on. Or you can simply re-install the player you want to use and >>> let >>> it reclaim the associations. >>> >>> The less programs you have on Windows the quicker it goes and less >>> messy >>> it gets, generally. >>> >>> > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Stephen Lawrence >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> >> thanks bo >>> >> ??? to be honest i don't know which version i have ..i'm a bit wary >>> of >>> >> downloads and installations ..i was once told that programs >>> can''fight >>> >> '' >>> >> with each other whether that is true i don;t know >>> >> ??? i have vlc and real player and win amp but prefer media player >>> for >>> >> the >>> >> database >>> > >>> > Both and, programs cannot as such interfere with eachother, but >>> codecs >>> > and dll's can and will at every given chance. This is why i >>> > recommended smplayer and/or vlc, since they both use their own sets >>> of >>> > codecs instead of using (and cluttering) the standard DirectShow set >>> > that Windows Media Player and virtually every other media player use. >>> > >>> > To find the version of nearly any Windows program, click "Help" and >>> > then "About". >>> > >>> > Also, if you already have vlc, you should be able to play WMA and WMV >>> > with it. Just make sure you have the latest version from >>> > www.videolan.org and you're all set. >>> > >>> > >>> > b >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Gathering mailing list >>> > Gathering at misera.net >>> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >>> > >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gathering mailing list >>> Gathering at misera.net >>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> >>? _____ >> >> Windows Live Messenger just got better. 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Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man. Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a "successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' _____ From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. _____ Windows LiveT HotmailR:.more than just e-mail. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 No virus found in this incoming message. 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URL: From stephen.l at live.com Sun May 3 10:50:13 2009 From: stephen.l at live.com (Stephen Lawrence) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 14:50:13 +0000 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo><013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo><21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh><37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com><34486.203.210.68.145.1241176018.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><022601c9ca53$d7a1a0c0$86e4e240$@com><43619.203.210.68.145.1241181549.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><024601c9ca63$c022f7e0$4068e7a0$@com><7D1EBE6A20854621961409B5BE8352F8@HeadHigh> <679343.87926.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: brendan it was a mish mash of alice in wonderland /wizard of oz /dystopian future ...you know the usual sci - fi hugga mugga From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz To: gathering at misera.net Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 23:45:23 +1000 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I still haven?t figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect?load of waffle if you ask me. From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a "successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.13/2091 - Release Date: 05/02/09 14:23:00 _________________________________________________________________ Beyond Hotmail ? see what else you can do with Windows Live. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665375/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpeace at bigfoot.com Sun May 3 11:53:14 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 16:53:14 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo><013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo><21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh><37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com><34486.203.210.68.145.1241176018.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><022601c9ca53$d7a1a0c0$86e4e240$@com><43619.203.210.68.145.1241181549.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><024601c9ca63$c022f7e0$4068e7a0$@com><7D1EBE6A20854621961409B5BE8352F8@HeadHigh> <679343.87926.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002701c9cc07$45337f50$cf9a7df0$@com> The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub-Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. "Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing" doesn't begin to address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. Bullet time indeed. It's this sort of filmic tripe that makes me reach for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear to touch it again. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I still haven't figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect.load of waffle if you ask me. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man. Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a "successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' _____ From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. _____ Windows LiveT HotmailR:.more than just e-mail. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.13/2091 - Release Date: 05/02/09 14:23:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Sun May 3 14:41:45 2009 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 19:41:45 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09726F@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Yeah, but the first one was good eh. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 03 May 2009 16:53 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub-Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. "Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing" doesn't begin to address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. Bullet time indeed. It's this sort of filmic tripe that makes me reach for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear to touch it again. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I still haven't figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect...load of waffle if you ask me. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man... Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a "successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' _____ From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man... _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. _____ Windows Live(tm) Hotmail?:...more than just e-mail. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.13/2091 - Release Date: 05/02/09 14:23:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thepunisher at blueyonder.co.uk Sun May 3 15:03:38 2009 From: thepunisher at blueyonder.co.uk (Steve Hackett) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 20:03:38 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09726F@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: <56F9BADC80974E69B8234C0E3555E155@HOMEHACKETT> The Tenant was my favourite track... ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk ; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Yeah, but the first one was good eh. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 03 May 2009 16:53 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub-Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. "Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing" doesn't begin to address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. Bullet time indeed. It's this sort of filmic tripe that makes me reach for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear to touch it again. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I still haven't figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect.load of waffle if you ask me. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man. Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a "successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. 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URL: From stephen.l at live.com Sun May 3 15:16:54 2009 From: stephen.l at live.com (Stephen Lawrence) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 19:16:54 +0000 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <56F9BADC80974E69B8234C0E3555E155@HOMEHACKETT> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09726F@mr-pants.the-lab.local> <56F9BADC80974E69B8234C0E3555E155@HOMEHACKETT> Message-ID: bang on matt that is exactly what i thought this thread was gonna be about ...my 2 faves are propaganda and no motive [ peel session version] From: thepunisher at blueyonder.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 20:03:38 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Tenant was my favourite track... ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk ; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Yeah, but the first one was good eh. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 03 May 2009 16:53 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub-Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. ?Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing? doesn?t begin to address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. Bullet time indeed. It?s this sort of filmic tripe that makes me reach for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear to touch it again. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I still haven?t figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect?load of waffle if you ask me. From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a "successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.13/2091 - Release Date: 05/02/09 14:23:00 _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place ? Learn more! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/137984870/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephen.l at live.com Sun May 3 15:19:08 2009 From: stephen.l at live.com (Stephen Lawrence) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 19:19:08 +0000 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <56F9BADC80974E69B8234C0E3555E155@HOMEHACKETT> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09726F@mr-pants.the-lab.local> <56F9BADC80974E69B8234C0E3555E155@HOMEHACKETT> Message-ID: sorry steve don't know why i called you matt you aren't that musician guy are you that had an album out called spectral mornings if you are i enjoyed your knebworth set back in the day From: thepunisher at blueyonder.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 20:03:38 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Tenant was my favourite track... ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk ; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Yeah, but the first one was good eh. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 03 May 2009 16:53 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub-Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. ?Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing? doesn?t begin to address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. Bullet time indeed. It?s this sort of filmic tripe that makes me reach for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear to touch it again. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I still haven?t figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect?load of waffle if you ask me. From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a "successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.13/2091 - Release Date: 05/02/09 14:23:00 _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place ? Learn more! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/137984870/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk Sun May 3 15:18:13 2009 From: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk (Darren A. Peace) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 20:18:13 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <56F9BADC80974E69B8234C0E3555E155@HOMEHACKETT> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09726F@mr-pants.the-lab.local> <56F9BADC80974E69B8234C0E3555E155@HOMEHACKETT> Message-ID: <0EE370AA-5B5F-4B4D-A3B7-652ECDD92004@suspiria.demon.co.uk> Break. Darren Hungerford, UK On 3 May 2009, at 20:03, "Steve Hackett" wrote: > The Tenant was my favourite track... > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ade > To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk ; A list about all things Killing > Joke (the band!) > Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 7:41 PM > Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > > Yeah, but the first one was good eh. > -----Original Message----- > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net > ]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace > Sent: 03 May 2009 16:53 > To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' > Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > > The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub- > Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. > > > > ?Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing? doesn?t begin to > address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over > -Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten > minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. > > > > Bullet time indeed. It?s this sort of filmic tripe that makes me rea > ch for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. > > > > And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning > there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will > never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can > bear to touch it again. > > > > Darren > > Hungerford, UK > > > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net > ] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn > Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 > To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' > Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > > > > I still haven?t figured out what the fuck that movie series was tryi > ng to get at with The Architect?load of waffle if you ask me. > > > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net > ] On Behalf Of sade1 > Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > > > > > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? > > > > Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes > seem > > like you really are dealing with a "successively harder end-of-level > boss"? > > At one point I'm thinking > > I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg > > (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a > prog. > > > > > > > ... ... ... ... ... ... > > > [looking at the current state of things..] > > > > 'Save me... > > save me from Tomorrow.. > > I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' > > > > > > > > From: Brendan Quinn > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > > Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM > Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? > > > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net > ] On Behalf Of folk devil > Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > > > > iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker > tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! > Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing > the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. > Reformatted and all :[ > Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. > > > Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. Check it out. > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17 > :53:00 > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.13/2091 - Release Date: 05/02/09 14 > :23:00 > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Sun May 3 15:19:35 2009 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 20:19:35 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097271@mr-pants.the-lab.local> So much text for so little: http://www.psychotronicgenerators.com/ - funny as fuck though! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Steve Hackett Sent: 03 May 2009 20:04 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Tenant was my favourite track... ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk ; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Yeah, but the first one was good eh. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 03 May 2009 16:53 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub-Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. "Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing" doesn't begin to address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. Bullet time indeed. It's this sort of filmic tripe that makes me reach for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear to touch it again. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I still haven't figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect...load of waffle if you ask me. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man... Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a "successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' _____ From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man... _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. _____ Windows Live(tm) Hotmail?:...more than just e-mail. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.13/2091 - Release Date: 05/02/09 14:23:00 _____ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk Sun May 3 15:19:37 2009 From: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk (Darren A. Peace) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 20:19:37 +0100 Subject: [kj] Fwd: Play dead References: <4643CE59-1E1A-42EB-B6D0-62534D5CB90A@suspiria.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <3DF41F08-5159-4C72-9612-61104CF4869E@suspiria.demon.co.uk> Begin forwarded message: > From: "Darren A. Peace" > Date: 3 May 2009 20:17:07 BST > To: ade > Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > > 6000000000 bonus points! > > Bomb dogs. > > Darren > Hungerford, UK > > On 3 May 2009, at 19:44, "ade" wrote: > >> > smash it with hammers >> >> Blind tube mares? >> -----Original Message----- >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net >> ]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace >> Sent: 03 May 2009 16:53 >> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' >> Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead >> >> The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub- >> Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. >> >> >> >> ?Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing? doesn?t begin to >> address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, ov >> er-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every >> ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. >> >> >> >> Bullet time indeed. It?s this sort of filmic tripe that makes me r >> each for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. >> >> >> >> And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning >> there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never >> get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear >> to touch it again. >> >> >> >> Darren >> >> Hungerford, UK >> >> >> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net >> ] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn >> Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 >> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' >> Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead >> >> >> >> I still haven?t figured out what the fuck that movie series was tr >> ying to get at with The Architect?load of waffle if you ask me. >> >> >> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net >> ] On Behalf Of sade1 >> Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) >> Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead >> >> >> >> > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? >> >> >> >> Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes >> seem >> >> like you really are dealing with a "successively harder end-of- >> level boss"? >> >> At one point I'm thinking >> >> I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg >> >> (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a >> prog. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ... ... ... ... ... ... >> >> >> [looking at the current state of things..] >> >> >> >> 'Save me... >> >> save me from Tomorrow.. >> >> I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Brendan Quinn >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > > >> Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM >> Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead >> >> Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? >> >> >> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net >> ] On Behalf Of folk devil >> Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 >> To: gathering at misera.net >> Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead >> >> >> >> iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker >> tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! >> Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after >> installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the >> drive. Reformatted and all :[ >> Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. >> >> >> Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. Check it out. >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17 >> :53:00 >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.13/2091 - Release Date: 05/02/09 14 >> :23:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Yeah, but the first one was good eh. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 03 May 2009 16:53 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub-Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. ?Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing? doesn?t begin to address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. Bullet time indeed. It?s this sort of filmic tripe that makes me reach for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear to touch it again. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I still haven?t figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect?load of waffle if you ask me. From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a "successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.13/2091 - Release Date: 05/02/09 14:23:00 _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place ? 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URL: From saulomar1 at yahoo.com Sun May 3 19:33:12 2009 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 16:33:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <002701c9cc07$45337f50$cf9a7df0$@com> References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo><013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo><21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh><37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com><34486.203.210.68.145.1241176018.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><022601c9ca53$d7a1a0c0$86e4e240$@com><43619.203.210.68.145.1241181549.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><024601c9ca63$c022f7e0$4068e7a0$@com><7D1EBE6A20854621961409B5BE8352F8@HeadHigh> <679343.87926.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <002701c9cc07$45337f50$cf9a7df0$@com> Message-ID: <877809.47035.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I guess no one enjoyed it like?I did... 8)? 8D ...and who hasn't felt like Neo when you've stepped into a greater level of awareness looking back in to the bubble of others' more limited grasp of "reality," - sans the super powers.... I only hope to never need "the Blue Pill" and may not everything end up tasting "like chicken" one day.? And, of coourrse,?Trinity was f#$*%in' hot the whole time. The 1st was the best (saw it on dvd right around the time I also saw PI so it was a good time all'round), the 2nd was a good sequel, but deh 3rd (pron'oonced 'turd') should've been cut down to 1/2-1/3 duration and just tagged on to the backend of the 2nd for completion's sake. That KJ progeny Juno Reactor was involved in spearheading that soundtrack (along with some RATM tunes) was pleasure for my ears throughout. the end ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things..] ? 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? ________________________________ From: Darren A. Peace To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2009 8:53:14 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub-Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. ? ?Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing? doesn?t begin to address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. ? Bullet time indeed. It?s this sort of filmic tripe that makes me reach for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. ? And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear to touch it again. ? Darren Hungerford, UK ? From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead ? I still haven?t figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect?load of waffle if you ask me. ? ________________________________ From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead ? > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? ? Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a?"successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg? (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ? ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things..] ? 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? ? ? ? ________________________________ From:Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? ? ________________________________ From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead ? iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows,?still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing?the delta 1010, with the original s/c?no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying?at the beginning of each recording session. ? ________________________________ Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 ? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.13/2091 - Release Date: 05/02/09 14:23:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpeace at bigfoot.com Sun May 3 19:50:58 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 00:50:58 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <877809.47035.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo><013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo><21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh><37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com><34486.203.210.68.145.1241176018.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><022601c9ca53$d7a1a0c0$86e4e240$@com><43619.203.210.68.145.1241181549.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><024601c9ca63$c022f7e0$4068e7a0$@com><7D1EBE6A20854621961409B5BE8352F8@HeadHigh> <679343.87926.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <002701c9cc07$45337f50$cf9a7df0$@com> <877809.47035.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <007a01c9cc4a$0244f690$06cee3b0$@com> Heh! I know for a fact that you?re not alone here in championing the film. I just really hate it and the sequels and the cast and the direction and the &c. Only thing that scores points for me is the soundtrack. Dystopian films never reach the giddy heights of the masterpiece that is ?Brazil? anyway. Darren Hungerford, UK From: sade1 [mailto:saulomar1 at yahoo.com] Sent: 04 May 2009 00:33 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I guess no one enjoyed it like I did... 8) 8D ...and who hasn't felt like Neo when you've stepped into a greater level of awareness looking back in to the bubble of others' more limited grasp of "reality," - sans the super powers.... I only hope to never need "the Blue Pill" and may not everything end up tasting "like chicken" one day. And, of coourrse, Trinity was f#$*%in' hot the whole time. The 1st was the best (saw it on dvd right around the time I also saw PI so it was a good time all'round), the 2nd was a good sequel, but deh 3rd (pron'oonced 'turd') should've been cut down to 1/2-1/3 duration and just tagged on to the backend of the 2nd for completion's sake. That KJ progeny Juno Reactor was involved in spearheading that soundtrack (along with some RATM tunes) was pleasure for my ears throughout. the end ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' _____ From: Darren A. Peace To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2009 8:53:14 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub-Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. ?Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing? doesn?t begin to address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. Bullet time indeed. It?s this sort of filmic tripe that makes me reach for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear to touch it again. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I still haven?t figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect?load of waffle if you ask me. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a "successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' _____ From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. _____ Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.13/2091 - Release Date: 05/02/09 14:23:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpeace at bigfoot.com Sun May 3 19:52:41 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 00:52:41 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09726F@mr-pants.the-lab.local> <56F9BADC80974E69B8234C0E3555E155@HOMEHACKETT> <0EE370AA-5B5F-4B4D-A3B7-652ECDD92004@suspiria.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <007f01c9cc4a$3fab7fe0$bf027fa0$@com> Since I can't call this eve, I shall confirm here. Intrepid Fox at 6 on Wednesday for ticket business and beverages. I'll be wearing the Big Bird suit. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence Sent: 03 May 2009 21:02 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead good call ''blood /stains/pleasure ''...ring me bonus credit expires midnight or can you confirm here INTREPID FOX at 6 pm _____ From: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 20:18:13 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Break. Darren Hungerford, UK On 3 May 2009, at 20:03, "Steve Hackett" wrote: The Tenant was my favourite track... ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk ; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Yeah, but the first one was good eh. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 03 May 2009 16:53 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub-Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. "Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing" doesn't begin to address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. Bullet time indeed. It's this sort of filmic tripe that makes me reach for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear to touch it again. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I still haven't figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect.load of waffle if you ask me. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man. Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a "successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' _____ From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. _____ Windows LiveT HotmailR:.more than just e-mail. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.13/2091 - Release Date: 05/02/09 14:23:00 _____ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____ Surfing the web just got more rewarding. Download the New Internet Explorer 8 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Sun May 3 20:01:06 2009 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 01:01:06 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097275@mr-pants.the-lab.local> > I'll be wearing the Big Bird suit. Dammit. Back to the drawing board.. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 04 May 2009 00:53 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Since I can't call this eve, I shall confirm here. Intrepid Fox at 6 on Wednesday for ticket business and beverages. I'll be wearing the Big Bird suit. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence Sent: 03 May 2009 21:02 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead good call ''blood /stains/pleasure ''...ring me bonus credit expires midnight or can you confirm here INTREPID FOX at 6 pm _____ From: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 20:18:13 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Break. Darren Hungerford, UK On 3 May 2009, at 20:03, "Steve Hackett" < thepunisher at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: The Tenant was my favourite track... ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk ; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Yeah, but the first one was good eh. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 03 May 2009 16:53 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub-Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. "Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing" doesn't begin to address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. Bullet time indeed. It's this sort of filmic tripe that makes me reach for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear to touch it again. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I still haven't figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect...load of waffle if you ask me. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man... Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a "successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' _____ From: Brendan Quinn < bq at soundgardener.co.nz> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) < gathering at misera.net> Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man... _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. _____ Windows Live(tm) Hotmail?:...more than just e-mail. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.13/2091 - Release Date: 05/02/09 14:23:00 _____ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____ Surfing the web just got more rewarding. Download the New Internet Explorer 8 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpeace at bigfoot.com Sun May 3 21:42:27 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 02:42:27 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097275@mr-pants.the-lab.local> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097275@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: <009b01c9cc59$960dc410$c2294c30$@com> Go as an old woman up a stick. Are you coming to the Heaven gayfest, then? Darren Hungerford, UK From: ade [mailto:ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk] Sent: 04 May 2009 01:01 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: RE: [kj] Play dead > I'll be wearing the Big Bird suit. Dammit. Back to the drawing board.. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 04 May 2009 00:53 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Since I can't call this eve, I shall confirm here. Intrepid Fox at 6 on Wednesday for ticket business and beverages. I'll be wearing the Big Bird suit. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence Sent: 03 May 2009 21:02 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead good call ''blood /stains/pleasure ''...ring me bonus credit expires midnight or can you confirm here INTREPID FOX at 6 pm _____ From: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 20:18:13 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Break. Darren Hungerford, UK On 3 May 2009, at 20:03, "Steve Hackett" wrote: The Tenant was my favourite track... ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk ; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Yeah, but the first one was good eh. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 03 May 2009 16:53 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub-Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. "Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing" doesn't begin to address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. Bullet time indeed. It's this sort of filmic tripe that makes me reach for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear to touch it again. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I still haven't figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect.load of waffle if you ask me. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man. Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a "successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' _____ From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. _____ Windows LiveT HotmailR:.more than just e-mail. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.13/2091 - Release Date: 05/02/09 14:23:00 _____ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____ Surfing the web just got more rewarding. Download the New Internet Explorer 8 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From saulomar1 at yahoo.com Sun May 3 22:48:58 2009 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 19:48:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <009b01c9cc59$960dc410$c2294c30$@com> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097275@mr-pants.the-lab.local> <009b01c9cc59$960dc410$c2294c30$@com> Message-ID: <564738.37555.qm@web110202.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> The setlist will be "Implant, " Afterburner, Seeing Red,? Are You Receiving, Blood On Your Hands, Asteroid,? Inside the "Termite Mound", Follow The Breeders,? Gay Tease, Come As You Are, Another Bloody Erection,? Beautiful Head, Slipscream, Dominator, Hung & Dance, Butchie, ?Wilful Gaze, My Love Of This Man, Chapped Her "Tree", The Panzys are Coming, ? encore: The Hummer, Dorkness Before Brawn, Another Grunt Goes Down, Who Taught You How?, ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things..] ? 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? ________________________________ From: Darren A. Peace To: ade ; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2009 6:42:27 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go as an old woman up a stick. ? Are you coming to the Heaven gayfest, then? ? Darren Hungerford, UK ? From:ade [mailto:ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk] Sent: 04 May 2009 01:01 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: RE: [kj] Play dead ? > I?ll be wearing the Big Bird suit. ? Dammit. Back to the drawing board.. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 04 May 2009 00:53 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Since I can?t call this eve, I shall confirm here. Intrepid Fox at 6 on Wednesday for ticket business and beverages. ? I?ll be wearing the Big Bird suit. ? Darren Hungerford, UK ? From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence Sent: 03 May 2009 21:02 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead ? good call ''blood /stains/pleasure ''...ring me bonus credit expires midnight or can you confirm here INTREPID FOX at 6 pm ? ________________________________ From: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 20:18:13 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Break. ? Darren Hungerford, UK On 3 May 2009, at 20:03, "Steve Hackett" wrote: The Tenant was my favourite track... ----- Original Message ----- From:ade To:dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk ; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent:Sunday, May 03, 2009 7:41 PM Subject:Re: [kj] Play dead ? Yeah, but the first one was good eh. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 03 May 2009 16:53 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub-Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. ? ?Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing? doesn?t begin to address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. ? Bullet time indeed. It?s this sort of filmic tripe that makes me reach for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. ? And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear to touch it again. ? Darren Hungerford, UK ? From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead ? I still haven?t figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect?load of waffle if you ask me. ? ________________________________ From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead ? > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? ? Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a?"successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg? (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ? ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things..] ? 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? ? ? ? ________________________________ From:Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? ? ________________________________ From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead ? iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows,?still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing?the delta 1010, with the original s/c?no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying?at the beginning of each recording session. ? ________________________________ Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 ? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.13/2091 - Release Date: 05/02/09 14:23:00 ? ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ? ________________________________ Surfing the web just got more rewarding. Download the New Internet Explorer 8 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Mon May 4 00:43:14 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 14:43:14 +1000 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <564738.37555.qm@web110202.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097275@mr-pants.the-lab.local><009b01c9cc59$960dc410$c2294c30$@com> <564738.37555.qm@web110202.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0AFB16C7DC524190B07E48773ABA6E6C@HeadHigh> Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha :-) Fuck's sake I'm never hear Dominator the same. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Monday, 4 May 2009 12:49 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The setlist will be "Implant, " Afterburner, Seeing Red, Are You Receiving, Blood On Your Hands, Asteroid, Inside the "Termite Mound", Follow The Breeders, Gay Tease, Come As You Are, Another Bloody Erection, Beautiful Head, Slipscream, Dominator, Hung & Dance, Butchie, Wilful Gaze, My Love Of This Man, Chapped Her "Tree", The Panzys are Coming, encore: The Hummer, Dorkness Before Brawn, Another Grunt Goes Down, Who Taught You How?, ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' _____ From: Darren A. Peace To: ade ; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2009 6:42:27 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go as an old woman up a stick. Are you coming to the Heaven gayfest, then? Darren Hungerford, UK From: ade [mailto:ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk] Sent: 04 May 2009 01:01 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: RE: [kj] Play dead > I'll be wearing the Big Bird suit. Dammit. Back to the drawing board.. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 04 May 2009 00:53 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Since I can't call this eve, I shall confirm here. Intrepid Fox at 6 on Wednesday for ticket business and beverages. I'll be wearing the Big Bird suit. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence Sent: 03 May 2009 21:02 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead good call ''blood /stains/pleasure ''...ring me bonus credit expires midnight or can you confirm here INTREPID FOX at 6 pm _____ From: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 20:18:13 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Break. Darren Hungerford, UK On 3 May 2009, at 20:03, "Steve Hackett" wrote: The Tenant was my favourite track... ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk ; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Yeah, but the first one was good eh. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 03 May 2009 16:53 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub-Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. "Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing" doesn't begin to address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. Bullet time indeed. It's this sort of filmic tripe that makes me reach for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear to touch it again. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I still haven't figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect.load of waffle if you ask me. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man. Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a "successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' _____ From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. _____ Windows LiveT HotmailR:.more than just e-mail. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.13/2091 - Release Date: 05/02/09 14:23:00 _____ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____ Surfing the web just got more rewarding. Download the New Internet Explorer 8 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.16/2094 - Release Date: 05/03/09 16:51:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Mon May 4 01:07:42 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 15:07:42 +1000 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <877809.47035.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo><013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo><21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh><37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com><34486.203.210.68.145.1241176018.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><022601c9ca53$d7a1a0c0$86e4e240$@com><43619.203.210.68.145.1241181549.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><024601c9ca63$c022f7e0$4068e7a0$@com><7D1EBE6A20854621961409B5BE8352F8@HeadHigh><679343.87926.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><002701c9cc07$45337f50$cf9a7df0$@com> <877809.47035.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <776422B486864693A401FDD959139AF5@HeadHigh> The Matrix series introduced some concepts to non-readers that they mightn't otherwise come across, such as solipsism, questioning the nature of 'the real world' etc. I think most people find the concept of questioning the solidity or real nature of the physical world ridiculous, other than regurgitated ideas of heaven and hell. I remember my mate's wife's reaction to watching Maybe Logic (Robert Anton Wilson doco) - she couldn't come close to getting her head around what he was getting at so called it total rubbish. The idea of questioning the nature of reality / truth / gravity itself etc was impossible for her to do.totally trapped in The Matrix. Everything is solid, black and white, good and bad etc. So the first movie I think actually elevated people's consciousness a little, or a certain demographic at least. It also used the general artwork & the physics of fight scenes really well to flesh out the guts of the multi-dimensional reality it was trying to depict. But after that is was all style over substance, there was absolutely no need to delve any further into story in order to earn money, it was surefire paydirt to get the same actors and team back, throw shitloads of money at ridiculous disjointed action CGI and watch the money roll back in. And it showed, the second two movies detracted from the first, in a successively worse manner. I thought the 3rd might be some kind of redemption, a decent book-end to the series, but it just got worse. That chick was sorta almost pretty hot, in an angular, manly kind of way. Laurence Fishbourne was great as always. Keanu was passably okay-ish for the role, I think I'd have found someone like Ed Norton or Christian Bale preferable. Soundtrack was pretty good. Compares very favourably with shit like the new Star Wars movies. I'd watch the first movie again, but not sure about the other two. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Monday, 4 May 2009 09:33 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I guess no one enjoyed it like I did... 8) 8D ...and who hasn't felt like Neo when you've stepped into a greater level of awareness looking back in to the bubble of others' more limited grasp of "reality," - sans the super powers.... I only hope to never need "the Blue Pill" and may not everything end up tasting "like chicken" one day. And, of coourrse, Trinity was f#$*%in' hot the whole time. The 1st was the best (saw it on dvd right around the time I also saw PI so it was a good time all'round), the 2nd was a good sequel, but deh 3rd (pron'oonced 'turd') should've been cut down to 1/2-1/3 duration and just tagged on to the backend of the 2nd for completion's sake. That KJ progeny Juno Reactor was involved in spearheading that soundtrack (along with some RATM tunes) was pleasure for my ears throughout. the end ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' _____ From: Darren A. Peace To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2009 8:53:14 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub-Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. "Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing" doesn't begin to address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. Bullet time indeed. It's this sort of filmic tripe that makes me reach for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear to touch it again. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I still haven't figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect.load of waffle if you ask me. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man. Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a "successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' _____ From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. _____ Windows LiveT HotmailR:.more than just e-mail. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.13/2091 - Release Date: 05/02/09 14:23:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.16/2094 - Release Date: 05/03/09 16:51:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thepunisher at blueyonder.co.uk Mon May 4 05:17:36 2009 From: thepunisher at blueyonder.co.uk (Steve Hackett) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 10:17:36 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09726F@mr-pants.the-lab.local><56F9BADC80974E69B8234C0E3555E155@HOMEHACKETT> Message-ID: <88EE8D56BFE3428B97E98AC4F18EAB35@HOMEHACKETT> No problem Dave.. I'm the very same muso!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lawrence To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead sorry steve don't know why i called you matt you aren't that musician guy are you that had an album out called spectral mornings if you are i enjoyed your knebworth set back in the day ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: thepunisher at blueyonder.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 20:03:38 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Tenant was my favourite track... ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk ; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Yeah, but the first one was good eh. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 03 May 2009 16:53 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub-Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. ?Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing? doesn?t begin to address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. Bullet time indeed. It?s this sort of filmic tripe that makes me reach for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear to touch it again. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I still haven?t figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect?load of waffle if you ask me. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a "successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. 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URL: From stephen.l at live.com Mon May 4 06:06:24 2009 From: stephen.l at live.com (Stephen Lawrence) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 10:06:24 +0000 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <88EE8D56BFE3428B97E98AC4F18EAB35@HOMEHACKETT> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09726F@mr-pants.the-lab.local><56F9BADC80974E69B8234C0E3555E155@HOMEHACKETT> <88EE8D56BFE3428B97E98AC4F18EAB35@HOMEHACKETT> Message-ID: i like the joke there calling me dave [ you shoild have used the bruce joke ]touche but seriously respect to you sir it is a surprise to see you on a killing joke fanbase do you still play and perform sorry i am out of touch with your work if i recall correctly i actually recorded that show [ well part of it ] and i think it was reading now not knebworth mind gets hazy as you get older i remember clocks being a standout track for me all the best From: thepunisher at blueyonder.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 10:17:36 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead No problem Dave.. I'm the very same muso!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lawrence To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead sorry steve don't know why i called you matt you aren't that musician guy are you that had an album out called spectral mornings if you are i enjoyed your knebworth set back in the day From: thepunisher at blueyonder.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 20:03:38 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Tenant was my favourite track... ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk ; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Yeah, but the first one was good eh. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 03 May 2009 16:53 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub-Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. ?Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing? doesn?t begin to address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. Bullet time indeed. It?s this sort of filmic tripe that makes me reach for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear to touch it again. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I still haven?t figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect?load of waffle if you ask me. From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a "successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. Check it out.No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 No virus found in this incoming message. 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URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Mon May 4 06:11:41 2009 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:11:41 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097278@mr-pants.the-lab.local> I hope you took the opportunity to punch Phil a few times in the 70's. Wherever the 70's are. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Steve Hackett Sent: 04 May 2009 10:18 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead No problem Dave.. I'm the very same muso!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lawrence To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead sorry steve don't know why i called you matt you aren't that musician guy are you that had an album out called spectral mornings if you are i enjoyed your knebworth set back in the day _____ From: thepunisher at blueyonder.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 20:03:38 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Tenant was my favourite track... ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk ; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Yeah, but the first one was good eh. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 03 May 2009 16:53 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub-Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. ?Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing? doesn?t begin to address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. Bullet time indeed. It?s this sort of filmic tripe that makes me reach for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear to touch it again. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I still haven?t figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect?load of waffle if you ask me. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a "successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' _____ From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. _____ Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.13/2091 - Release Date: 05/02/09 14:23:00 _____ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____ Surfing the web just got more rewarding. Download the New Internet Explorer 8 _____ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Mon May 4 06:14:33 2009 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:14:33 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097279@mr-pants.the-lab.local> It was indeed an eye-opener, so few of us consider stuff like "why should I go along with this game" & so on. It can seem like 'self realisation 101' to the open eyes on this list, but for the masses, it has value as a thought provoker - just think how many have seen that film & considered reality - that's no bad thing at all ! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 04 May 2009 06:08 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrix series introduced some concepts to non-readers that they mightn't otherwise come across, such as solipsism, questioning the nature of 'the real world' etc. I think most people find the concept of questioning the solidity or real nature of the physical world ridiculous, other than regurgitated ideas of heaven and hell. I remember my mate's wife's reaction to watching Maybe Logic (Robert Anton Wilson doco) - she couldn't come close to getting her head around what he was getting at so called it total rubbish. The idea of questioning the nature of reality / truth / gravity itself etc was impossible for her to do...totally trapped in The Matrix. Everything is solid, black and white, good and bad etc. So the first movie I think actually elevated people's consciousness a little, or a certain demographic at least. It also used the general artwork & the physics of fight scenes really well to flesh out the guts of the multi-dimensional reality it was trying to depict. But after that is was all style over substance, there was absolutely no need to delve any further into story in order to earn money, it was surefire paydirt to get the same actors and team back, throw shitloads of money at ridiculous disjointed action CGI and watch the money roll back in. And it showed, the second two movies detracted from the first, in a successively worse manner. I thought the 3rd might be some kind of redemption, a decent book-end to the series, but it just got worse. That chick was sorta almost pretty hot, in an angular, manly kind of way. Laurence Fishbourne was great as always. Keanu was passably okay-ish for the role, I think I'd have found someone like Ed Norton or Christian Bale preferable. Soundtrack was pretty good. Compares very favourably with shit like the new Star Wars movies. I'd watch the first movie again, but not sure about the other two. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Monday, 4 May 2009 09:33 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I guess no one enjoyed it like I did... 8) 8D ...and who hasn't felt like Neo when you've stepped into a greater level of awareness looking back in to the bubble of others' more limited grasp of "reality," - sans the super powers.... I only hope to never need "the Blue Pill" and may not everything end up tasting "like chicken" one day. And, of coourrse, Trinity was f#$*%in' hot the whole time. The 1st was the best (saw it on dvd right around the time I also saw PI so it was a good time all'round), the 2nd was a good sequel, but deh 3rd (pron'oonced 'turd') should've been cut down to 1/2-1/3 duration and just tagged on to the backend of the 2nd for completion's sake. That KJ progeny Juno Reactor was involved in spearheading that soundtrack (along with some RATM tunes) was pleasure for my ears throughout. the end ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' _____ From: Darren A. Peace To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2009 8:53:14 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub-Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. "Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing" doesn't begin to address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. Bullet time indeed. It's this sort of filmic tripe that makes me reach for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear to touch it again. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I still haven't figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect...load of waffle if you ask me. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man... Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a "successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' _____ From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man... _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. _____ Windows Live(tm) Hotmail?:...more than just e-mail. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.13/2091 - Release Date: 05/02/09 14:23:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.16/2094 - Release Date: 05/03/09 16:51:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sneakypete at uwclub.net Mon May 4 06:46:03 2009 From: sneakypete at uwclub.net (Peter Moltesen) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:46:03 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097278@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: <20090504104609.0660210562@mailwash5.pair.com> So whats the latest on the proper Ge**s*s reunion, then Matt - er I mean Steve ? -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Steve Hackett Sent: 04 May 2009 10:18 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead No problem Dave.. I'm the very same muso!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lawrence To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead sorry steve don't know why i called you matt you aren't that musician guy are you that had an album out called spectral mornings if you are i enjoyed your knebworth set back in the day _____ From: thepunisher at blueyonder.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 20:03:38 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Tenant was my favourite track... ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk ; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Yeah, but the first one was good eh. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 03 May 2009 16:53 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub-Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. "Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing" doesn't begin to address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. Bullet time indeed. It's this sort of filmic tripe that makes me reach for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear to touch it again. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I still haven't figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect.load of waffle if you ask me. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man. Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a "successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' _____ From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. _____ Windows LiveT HotmailR:.more than just e-mail. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.13/2091 - Release Date: 05/02/09 14:23:00 _____ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____ Surfing the web just got more rewarding. Download the New Internet Explorer 8 _____ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephen.l at live.com Mon May 4 06:53:36 2009 From: stephen.l at live.com (Stephen Lawrence) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 10:53:36 +0000 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097279@mr-pants.the-lab.local> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097279@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: well ade there are the spiritually alive and the beautiful dead Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:14:33 +0100 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead It was indeed an eye-opener, so few of us consider stuff like "why should I go along with this game" & so on. It can seem like 'self realisation 101' to the open eyes on this list, but for the masses, it has value as a thought provoker - just think how many have seen that film & considered reality - that's no bad thing at all ! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 04 May 2009 06:08 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrix series introduced some concepts to non-readers that they mightn?t otherwise come across, such as solipsism, questioning the nature of ?the real world? etc. I think most people find the concept of questioning the solidity or real nature of the physical world ridiculous, other than regurgitated ideas of heaven and hell. I remember my mate?s wife?s reaction to watching Maybe Logic (Robert Anton Wilson doco) ? she couldn?t come close to getting her head around what he was getting at so called it total rubbish. The idea of questioning the nature of reality / truth / gravity itself etc was impossible for her to do?totally trapped in The Matrix. Everything is solid, black and white, good and bad etc. So the first movie I think actually elevated people?s consciousness a little, or a certain demographic at least. It also used the general artwork & the physics of fight scenes really well to flesh out the guts of the multi-dimensional reality it was trying to depict. But after that is was all style over substance, there was absolutely no need to delve any further into story in order to earn money, it was surefire paydirt to get the same actors and team back, throw shitloads of money at ridiculous disjointed action CGI and watch the money roll back in. And it showed, the second two movies detracted from the first, in a successively worse manner. I thought the 3rd might be some kind of redemption, a decent book-end to the series, but it just got worse. That chick was sorta almost pretty hot, in an angular, manly kind of way. Laurence Fishbourne was great as always. Keanu was passably okay-ish for the role, I think I?d have found someone like Ed Norton or Christian Bale preferable. Soundtrack was pretty good. Compares very favourably with shit like the new Star Wars movies. I?d watch the first movie again, but not sure about the other two. From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Monday, 4 May 2009 09:33 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I guess no one enjoyed it like I did... 8) 8D ...and who hasn't felt like Neo when you've stepped into a greater level of awareness looking back in to the bubble of others' more limited grasp of "reality," - sans the super powers.... I only hope to never need "the Blue Pill" and may not everything end up tasting "like chicken" one day. And, of coourrse, Trinity was f#$*%in' hot the whole time. The 1st was the best (saw it on dvd right around the time I also saw PI so it was a good time all'round), the 2nd was a good sequel, but deh 3rd (pron'oonced 'turd') should've been cut down to 1/2-1/3 duration and just tagged on to the backend of the 2nd for completion's sake. That KJ progeny Juno Reactor was involved in spearheading that soundtrack (along with some RATM tunes) was pleasure for my ears throughout. the end ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' From: Darren A. Peace To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2009 8:53:14 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub-Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. ?Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing? doesn?t begin to address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. Bullet time indeed. It?s this sort of filmic tripe that makes me reach for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear to touch it again. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I still haven?t figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect?load of waffle if you ask me. From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a "successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 No virus found in this incoming message. 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URL: From stephen.l at live.com Mon May 4 06:56:37 2009 From: stephen.l at live.com (Stephen Lawrence) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 10:56:37 +0000 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <20090504104609.0660210562@mailwash5.pair.com> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097278@mr-pants.the-lab.local> <20090504104609.0660210562@mailwash5.pair.com> Message-ID: shit looks like i've started something here sorry steve if i blew your cover From: sneakypete at uwclub.net To: gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:46:03 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead So whats the latest on the proper Ge**s*s reunion, then Matt ? er I mean Steve ? -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Steve Hackett Sent: 04 May 2009 10:18 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead No problem Dave.. I'm the very same muso!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lawrence To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead sorry steve don't know why i called you matt you aren't that musician guy are you that had an album out called spectral mornings if you are i enjoyed your knebworth set back in the day From: thepunisher at blueyonder.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 20:03:38 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Tenant was my favourite track... ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk ; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Yeah, but the first one was good eh. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 03 May 2009 16:53 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub-Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. ?Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing? doesn?t begin to address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. Bullet time indeed. It?s this sort of filmic tripe that makes me reach for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear to touch it again. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I still haven?t figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect?load of waffle if you ask me. From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a "successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.13/2091 - Release Date: 05/02/09 14:23:00 _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering Surfing the web just got more rewarding. Download the New Internet Explorer 8 _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Beyond Hotmail ? see what else you can do with Windows Live. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665375/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpeace at bigfoot.com Mon May 4 07:56:27 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 12:56:27 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097279@mr-pants.the-lab.local> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097279@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: <00eb01c9ccaf$5b68aea0$123a0be0$@com> I make no apologies for being an irredeemable cynic about such things. The huge majority of people who saw the Mattress came out thinking "Dunno what the fuck that was all about, but those plastic trousers were awesome, dude. And guns. And special effects. And there's a computer game!" Whoah indeed. Yes, I'd think it a good thing if it caused even a few people to consider their place in the world a little more thoughtfully, but the metaphor is surely juvenile, internally inconsistent and facile. And anyone who can identify with Canoe should choose a better role model. Bah. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade Sent: 04 May 2009 11:15 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead It was indeed an eye-opener, so few of us consider stuff like "why should I go along with this game" & so on. It can seem like 'self realisation 101' to the open eyes on this list, but for the masses, it has value as a thought provoker - just think how many have seen that film & considered reality - that's no bad thing at all ! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 04 May 2009 06:08 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrix series introduced some concepts to non-readers that they mightn't otherwise come across, such as solipsism, questioning the nature of 'the real world' etc. I think most people find the concept of questioning the solidity or real nature of the physical world ridiculous, other than regurgitated ideas of heaven and hell. I remember my mate's wife's reaction to watching Maybe Logic (Robert Anton Wilson doco) - she couldn't come close to getting her head around what he was getting at so called it total rubbish. The idea of questioning the nature of reality / truth / gravity itself etc was impossible for her to do.totally trapped in The Matrix. Everything is solid, black and white, good and bad etc. So the first movie I think actually elevated people's consciousness a little, or a certain demographic at least. It also used the general artwork & the physics of fight scenes really well to flesh out the guts of the multi-dimensional reality it was trying to depict. But after that is was all style over substance, there was absolutely no need to delve any further into story in order to earn money, it was surefire paydirt to get the same actors and team back, throw shitloads of money at ridiculous disjointed action CGI and watch the money roll back in. And it showed, the second two movies detracted from the first, in a successively worse manner. I thought the 3rd might be some kind of redemption, a decent book-end to the series, but it just got worse. That chick was sorta almost pretty hot, in an angular, manly kind of way. Laurence Fishbourne was great as always. Keanu was passably okay-ish for the role, I think I'd have found someone like Ed Norton or Christian Bale preferable. Soundtrack was pretty good. Compares very favourably with shit like the new Star Wars movies. I'd watch the first movie again, but not sure about the other two. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Monday, 4 May 2009 09:33 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I guess no one enjoyed it like I did... 8) 8D ...and who hasn't felt like Neo when you've stepped into a greater level of awareness looking back in to the bubble of others' more limited grasp of "reality," - sans the super powers.... I only hope to never need "the Blue Pill" and may not everything end up tasting "like chicken" one day. And, of coourrse, Trinity was f#$*%in' hot the whole time. The 1st was the best (saw it on dvd right around the time I also saw PI so it was a good time all'round), the 2nd was a good sequel, but deh 3rd (pron'oonced 'turd') should've been cut down to 1/2-1/3 duration and just tagged on to the backend of the 2nd for completion's sake. That KJ progeny Juno Reactor was involved in spearheading that soundtrack (along with some RATM tunes) was pleasure for my ears throughout. the end ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' _____ From: Darren A. Peace To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2009 8:53:14 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub-Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. "Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing" doesn't begin to address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. Bullet time indeed. It's this sort of filmic tripe that makes me reach for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear to touch it again. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I still haven't figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect.load of waffle if you ask me. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man. Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a "successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' _____ From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. _____ Windows LiveT HotmailR:.more than just e-mail. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.13/2091 - Release Date: 05/02/09 14:23:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.16/2094 - Release Date: 05/03/09 16:51:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Mon May 4 08:22:34 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 22:22:34 +1000 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <00eb01c9ccaf$5b68aea0$123a0be0$@com> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097279@mr-pants.the-lab.local> <00eb01c9ccaf$5b68aea0$123a0be0$@com> Message-ID: <28B3C6AF117842ACBDB489B72D54BE27@HeadHigh> Canoe, I like it :) Check out this guy's Canoe, you'll like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZE5PySawiM -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: Monday, 4 May 2009 21:56 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I make no apologies for being an irredeemable cynic about such things. The huge majority of people who saw the Mattress came out thinking "Dunno what the fuck that was all about, but those plastic trousers were awesome, dude. And guns. And special effects. And there's a computer game!" Whoah indeed. Yes, I'd think it a good thing if it caused even a few people to consider their place in the world a little more thoughtfully, but the metaphor is surely juvenile, internally inconsistent and facile. And anyone who can identify with Canoe should choose a better role model. Bah. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade Sent: 04 May 2009 11:15 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead It was indeed an eye-opener, so few of us consider stuff like "why should I go along with this game" & so on. It can seem like 'self realisation 101' to the open eyes on this list, but for the masses, it has value as a thought provoker - just think how many have seen that film & considered reality - that's no bad thing at all ! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 04 May 2009 06:08 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrix series introduced some concepts to non-readers that they mightn't otherwise come across, such as solipsism, questioning the nature of 'the real world' etc. I think most people find the concept of questioning the solidity or real nature of the physical world ridiculous, other than regurgitated ideas of heaven and hell. I remember my mate's wife's reaction to watching Maybe Logic (Robert Anton Wilson doco) - she couldn't come close to getting her head around what he was getting at so called it total rubbish. The idea of questioning the nature of reality / truth / gravity itself etc was impossible for her to do.totally trapped in The Matrix. Everything is solid, black and white, good and bad etc. So the first movie I think actually elevated people's consciousness a little, or a certain demographic at least. It also used the general artwork & the physics of fight scenes really well to flesh out the guts of the multi-dimensional reality it was trying to depict. But after that is was all style over substance, there was absolutely no need to delve any further into story in order to earn money, it was surefire paydirt to get the same actors and team back, throw shitloads of money at ridiculous disjointed action CGI and watch the money roll back in. And it showed, the second two movies detracted from the first, in a successively worse manner. I thought the 3rd might be some kind of redemption, a decent book-end to the series, but it just got worse. That chick was sorta almost pretty hot, in an angular, manly kind of way. Laurence Fishbourne was great as always. Keanu was passably okay-ish for the role, I think I'd have found someone like Ed Norton or Christian Bale preferable. Soundtrack was pretty good. Compares very favourably with shit like the new Star Wars movies. I'd watch the first movie again, but not sure about the other two. ________________________________ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Monday, 4 May 2009 09:33 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I guess no one enjoyed it like I did... 8) 8D ...and who hasn't felt like Neo when you've stepped into a greater level of awareness looking back in to the bubble of others' more limited grasp of "reality," - sans the super powers.... I only hope to never need "the Blue Pill" and may not everything end up tasting "like chicken" one day. And, of coourrse, Trinity was f#$*%in' hot the whole time. The 1st was the best (saw it on dvd right around the time I also saw PI so it was a good time all'round), the 2nd was a good sequel, but deh 3rd (pron'oonced 'turd') should've been cut down to 1/2-1/3 duration and just tagged on to the backend of the 2nd for completion's sake. That KJ progeny Juno Reactor was involved in spearheading that soundtrack (along with some RATM tunes) was pleasure for my ears throughout. the end ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' ________________________________ From: Darren A. Peace To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2009 8:53:14 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub-Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. "Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing" doesn't begin to address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. Bullet time indeed. It's this sort of filmic tripe that makes me reach for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear to touch it again. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I still haven't figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect.load of waffle if you ask me. ________________________________ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man. Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a "successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' ________________________________ From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man. ________________________________ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. ________________________________ Windows LiveT HotmailR:.more than just e-mail. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. 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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.17/2095 - Release Date: 05/04/09 06:00:00 From circusbar at uol.com.br Mon May 4 09:23:46 2009 From: circusbar at uol.com.br (circusbar) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 10:23:46 -0300 Subject: [kj] Spare Ticket for KJ at Heaven In-Reply-To: <026c01c9ca6f$4e5c1d10$eb145730$@com> References: <49fb0740c9eed_6a261555555879b4721@weasel13.tmail> <026c01c9ca6f$4e5c1d10$eb145730$@com> Message-ID: <49feec62626dd_5cdf1555555879b4415@weasel17.tmail> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From folk.devil at hotmail.com Mon May 4 11:34:06 2009 From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 08:34:06 -0700 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097279@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: Most of our 'realities' are social and cultural constructions. A good contemporary example would be 'the West' v. Islam. The greatest influence on a society's ID would be its language. If you lose the language, you lose the culture. Everyone speak English, now! There used to be some psychological theory (Laing) who actually saw Psychosis as more of a break from these constru(i)ctions, in some cases. From: stephen.l at live.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 10:53:36 +0000 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead well ade there are the spiritually alive and the beautiful dead Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:14:33 +0100 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead It was indeed an eye-opener, so few of us consider stuff like "why should I go along with this game" & so on. It can seem like 'self realisation 101' to the open eyes on this list, but for the masses, it has value as a thought provoker - just think how many have seen that film & considered reality - that's no bad thing at all ! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 04 May 2009 06:08 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrix series introduced some concepts to non-readers that they mightn?t otherwise come across, such as solipsism, questioning the nature of ?the real world? etc. I think most people find the concept of questioning the solidity or real nature of the physical world ridiculous, other than regurgitated ideas of heaven and hell. I remember my mate?s wife?s reaction to watching Maybe Logic (Robert Anton Wilson doco) ? she couldn?t come close to getting her head around what he was getting at so called it total rubbish. The idea of questioning the nature of reality / truth / gravity itself etc was impossible for her to do?totally trapped in The Matrix. Everything is solid, black and white, good and bad etc. So the first movie I think actually elevated people?s consciousness a little, or a certain demographic at least. It also used the general artwork & the physics of fight scenes really well to flesh out the guts of the multi-dimensional reality it was trying to depict. But after that is was all style over substance, there was absolutely no need to delve any further into story in order to earn money, it was surefire paydirt to get the same actors and team back, throw shitloads of money at ridiculous disjointed action CGI and watch the money roll back in. And it showed, the second two movies detracted from the first, in a successively worse manner. I thought the 3rd might be some kind of redemption, a decent book-end to the series, but it just got worse. That chick was sorta almost pretty hot, in an angular, manly kind of way. Laurence Fishbourne was great as always. Keanu was passably okay-ish for the role, I think I?d have found someone like Ed Norton or Christian Bale preferable. Soundtrack was pretty good. Compares very favourably with shit like the new Star Wars movies. I?d watch the first movie again, but not sure about the other two. _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail?. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd1_052009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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So, no apology expected! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 04 May 2009 12:56 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I make no apologies for being an irredeemable cynic about such things. The huge majority of people who saw the Mattress came out thinking "Dunno what the fuck that was all about, but those plastic trousers were awesome, dude. And guns. And special effects. And there's a computer game!" Whoah indeed. Yes, I'd think it a good thing if it caused even a few people to consider their place in the world a little more thoughtfully, but the metaphor is surely juvenile, internally inconsistent and facile. And anyone who can identify with Canoe should choose a better role model. Bah. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade Sent: 04 May 2009 11:15 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead It was indeed an eye-opener, so few of us consider stuff like "why should I go along with this game" & so on. It can seem like 'self realisation 101' to the open eyes on this list, but for the masses, it has value as a thought provoker - just think how many have seen that film & considered reality - that's no bad thing at all ! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 04 May 2009 06:08 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrix series introduced some concepts to non-readers that they mightn't otherwise come across, such as solipsism, questioning the nature of 'the real world' etc. I think most people find the concept of questioning the solidity or real nature of the physical world ridiculous, other than regurgitated ideas of heaven and hell. I remember my mate's wife's reaction to watching Maybe Logic (Robert Anton Wilson doco) - she couldn't come close to getting her head around what he was getting at so called it total rubbish. The idea of questioning the nature of reality / truth / gravity itself etc was impossible for her to do...totally trapped in The Matrix. Everything is solid, black and white, good and bad etc. So the first movie I think actually elevated people's consciousness a little, or a certain demographic at least. It also used the general artwork & the physics of fight scenes really well to flesh out the guts of the multi-dimensional reality it was trying to depict. But after that is was all style over substance, there was absolutely no need to delve any further into story in order to earn money, it was surefire paydirt to get the same actors and team back, throw shitloads of money at ridiculous disjointed action CGI and watch the money roll back in. And it showed, the second two movies detracted from the first, in a successively worse manner. I thought the 3rd might be some kind of redemption, a decent book-end to the series, but it just got worse. That chick was sorta almost pretty hot, in an angular, manly kind of way. Laurence Fishbourne was great as always. Keanu was passably okay-ish for the role, I think I'd have found someone like Ed Norton or Christian Bale preferable. Soundtrack was pretty good. Compares very favourably with shit like the new Star Wars movies. I'd watch the first movie again, but not sure about the other two. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Monday, 4 May 2009 09:33 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I guess no one enjoyed it like I did... 8) 8D ...and who hasn't felt like Neo when you've stepped into a greater level of awareness looking back in to the bubble of others' more limited grasp of "reality," - sans the super powers.... I only hope to never need "the Blue Pill" and may not everything end up tasting "like chicken" one day. And, of coourrse, Trinity was f#$*%in' hot the whole time. The 1st was the best (saw it on dvd right around the time I also saw PI so it was a good time all'round), the 2nd was a good sequel, but deh 3rd (pron'oonced 'turd') should've been cut down to 1/2-1/3 duration and just tagged on to the backend of the 2nd for completion's sake. That KJ progeny Juno Reactor was involved in spearheading that soundtrack (along with some RATM tunes) was pleasure for my ears throughout. the end ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' _____ From: Darren A. Peace To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2009 8:53:14 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub-Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. "Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing" doesn't begin to address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. Bullet time indeed. It's this sort of filmic tripe that makes me reach for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear to touch it again. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I still haven't figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect...load of waffle if you ask me. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man... Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a "successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' _____ From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man... _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. _____ Windows Live(tm) Hotmail?:...more than just e-mail. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.13/2091 - Release Date: 05/02/09 14:23:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.16/2094 - Release Date: 05/03/09 16:51:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Mon May 4 12:16:11 2009 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 17:16:11 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09727C@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Our shitstems are simply theories. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 04 May 2009 16:34 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Most of our 'realities' are social and cultural constructions. A good contemporary example would be 'the West' v. Islam. The greatest influence on a society's ID would be its language. If you lose the language, you lose the culture. Everyone speak English, now! There used to be some psychological theory (Laing) who actually saw Psychosis as more of a break from these constru(i)ctions, in some cases. _____ From: stephen.l at live.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 10:53:36 +0000 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead well ade there are the spiritually alive and the beautiful dead _____ Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:14:33 +0100 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead It was indeed an eye-opener, so few of us consider stuff like "why should I go along with this game" & so on. It can seem like 'self realisation 101' to the open eyes on this list, but for the masses, it has value as a thought provoker - just think how many have seen that film & considered reality - that's no bad thing at all ! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 04 May 2009 06:08 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrix series introduced some concepts to non-readers that they mightn?t otherwise come across, such as solipsism, questioning the nature of ?the real world? etc. I think most people find the concept of questioning the solidity or real nature of the physical world ridiculous, other than regurgitated ideas of heaven and hell. I remember my mate?s wife?s reaction to watching Maybe Logic (Robert Anton Wilson doco) ? she couldn?t come close to getting her head around what he was getting at so called it total rubbish. The idea of questioning the nature of reality / truth / gravity itself etc was impossible for her to do?totally trapped in The Matrix. Everything is solid, black and white, good and bad etc. So the first movie I think actually elevated people?s consciousness a little, or a certain demographic at least. It also used the general artwork & the physics of fight scenes really well to flesh out the guts of the multi-dimensional reality it was trying to depict. But after that is was all style over substance, there was absolutely no need to delve any further into story in order to earn money, it was surefire paydirt to get the same actors and team back, throw shitloads of money at ridiculous disjointed action CGI and watch the money roll back in. And it showed, the second two movies detracted from the first, in a successively worse manner. I thought the 3rd might be some kind of redemption, a decent book-end to the series, but it just got worse. That chick was sorta almost pretty hot, in an angular, manly kind of way. Laurence Fishbourne was great as always. Keanu was passably okay-ish for the role, I think I?d have found someone like Ed Norton or Christian Bale preferable. Soundtrack was pretty good. Compares very favourably with shit like the new Star Wars movies. I?d watch the first movie again, but not sure about the other two. _____ _____ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail?. See how. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Mon May 4 12:29:59 2009 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 17:29:59 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09727D@mr-pants.the-lab.local> This is where it all goes wrong & the snobby cliques come to the fore. Brendan is no moron, but he likes the Matrix (as I do too). I also like Seconds, Straw Dogs, The Meaning of Life & Battle Royale. Oh & Brazil. It's interesting to see how groups form & create 'sides'. Especially when members of these groups are supposedly against non-inclusion, prejudice, etc. Yet fundamentally they play exactly the same game... different game-pieces, same game... I'm no better, of course. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 04 May 2009 16:36 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Which was better; a) The Matrix b) Brazil My vote, BRAZIL!!! _____ Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. Check it out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Mon May 4 12:30:40 2009 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 17:30:40 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09727E@mr-pants.the-lab.local> You need an instruction manual to be 'spiritual'. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence Sent: 04 May 2009 11:54 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead well ade there are the spiritually alive and the beautiful dead _____ Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:14:33 +0100 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead It was indeed an eye-opener, so few of us consider stuff like "why should I go along with this game" & so on. It can seem like 'self realisation 101' to the open eyes on this list, but for the masses, it has value as a thought provoker - just think how many have seen that film & considered reality - that's no bad thing at all ! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 04 May 2009 06:08 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrix series introduced some concepts to non-readers that they mightn?t otherwise come across, such as solipsism, questioning the nature of ?the real world? etc. I think most people find the concept of questioning the solidity or real nature of the physical world ridiculous, other than regurgitated ideas of heaven and hell. I remember my mate?s wife?s reaction to watching Maybe Logic (Robert Anton Wilson doco) ? she couldn?t come close to getting her head around what he was getting at so called it total rubbish. The idea of questioning the nature of reality / truth / gravity itself etc was impossible for her to do?totally trapped in The Matrix. Everything is solid, black and white, good and bad etc. So the first movie I think actually elevated people?s consciousness a little, or a certain demographic at least. It also used the general artwork & the physics of fight scenes really well to flesh out the guts of the multi-dimensional reality it was trying to depict. But after that is was all style over substance, there was absolutely no need to delve any further into story in order to earn money, it was surefire paydirt to get the same actors and team back, throw shitloads of money at ridiculous disjointed action CGI and watch the money roll back in. And it showed, the second two movies detracted from the first, in a successively worse manner. I thought the 3rd might be some kind of redemption, a decent book-end to the series, but it just got worse. That chick was sorta almost pretty hot, in an angular, manly kind of way. Laurence Fishbourne was great as always. Keanu was passably okay-ish for the role, I think I?d have found someone like Ed Norton or Christian Bale preferable. Soundtrack was pretty good. Compares very favourably with shit like the new Star Wars movies. I?d watch the first movie again, but not sure about the other two. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Monday, 4 May 2009 09:33 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I guess no one enjoyed it like I did... 8) 8D ...and who hasn't felt like Neo when you've stepped into a greater level of awareness looking back in to the bubble of others' more limited grasp of "reality," - sans the super powers.... I only hope to never need "the Blue Pill" and may not everything end up tasting "like chicken" one day. And, of coourrse, Trinity was f#$*%in' hot the whole time. The 1st was the best (saw it on dvd right around the time I also saw PI so it was a good time all'round), the 2nd was a good sequel, but deh 3rd (pron'oonced 'turd') should've been cut down to 1/2-1/3 duration and just tagged on to the backend of the 2nd for completion's sake. That KJ progeny Juno Reactor was involved in spearheading that soundtrack (along with some RATM tunes) was pleasure for my ears throughout. the end ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' _____ From: Darren A. Peace To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2009 8:53:14 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub-Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. ?Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing? doesn?t begin to address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. Bullet time indeed. It?s this sort of filmic tripe that makes me reach for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear to touch it again. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I still haven?t figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect?load of waffle if you ask me. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a "successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' _____ From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. _____ Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.13/2091 - Release Date: 05/02/09 14:23:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.16/2094 - Release Date: 05/03/09 16:51:00 _____ " Upgrade to Internet Explorer 8 Optimised for MSN. " Download Now -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Mon May 4 12:37:25 2009 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 17:37:25 +0100 Subject: [kj] OT: Google killer Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09727F@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Next step is spot-on - it's certainly not the revolution the hypers are touting it as. "tell me if the Golden gate bridge is as long as Everest is tall". Wow - I think I'll work it out manually by searching for the length of the bridge, the height of the mountain & doing a sum. Is this the future technology offers us? USE YOUR BRAIN EVEN LESS* * Disclaimer - your brain is a muscle & needs to be used. Using our systems will weaken your brain, in the name of convenience, you idle fucks. Love, The Philistine ;) -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 04 May 2009 13:02 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: [kj] OT: Google killer The next step in search technology and a workable human / AI interface: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/technology/news/article.cfm?c_id=5 &objectid=10570271 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpeace at bigfoot.com Mon May 4 12:50:58 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 17:50:58 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <010e01c9ccd8$80201c00$80605400$@com> BRAZIL, clearly. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 04 May 2009 16:36 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Which was better; a) The Matrix b) Brazil My vote, BRAZIL!!! _____ HotmailR has ever-growing storage! Don't worry about storage limits. Check it out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vassifer at earthlink.net Mon May 4 12:51:32 2009 From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alexander Smith) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 12:51:32 -0400 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <989E8D57-6937-44EE-8761-FB3F76E15040@earthlink.net> Never saw "The Matrix" and couldn't give a fuck, so I'm going with "Brazil". Alex in NYC On May 4, 2009, at 11:36 AM, folk devil wrote: > Which was better; > a) The Matrix > b) Brazil > > My vote, BRAZIL!!! > > > Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. > Check it out._______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com Mon May 4 13:01:19 2009 From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 18:01:19 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: having never seen-brazil--i say matrix have dvd boxset ;) milindafgrant From: folk.devil at hotmail.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 08:36:28 -0700 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Which was better; a) The Matrix b) Brazil My vote, BRAZIL!!! Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. Check it out. _________________________________________________________________ View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place ? Learn more! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/137984870/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Mon May 4 13:08:04 2009 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 18:08:04 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097280@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Folky, I apologise if the below mail was a little bit cuntish - I'm in a shitty mood this afternoon. Sorry again, ade. This is where it all goes wrong & the snobby cliques come to the fore. Brendan is no moron, but he likes the Matrix (as I do too). I also like Seconds, Straw Dogs, The Meaning of Life & Battle Royale. Oh & Brazil. It's interesting to see how groups form & create 'sides'. Especially when members of these groups are supposedly against non-inclusion, prejudice, etc. Yet fundamentally they play exactly the same game... different game-pieces, same game... 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URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Mon May 4 13:27:54 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 10:27:54 -0700 Subject: [kj] Play dead References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09726F@mr-pants.the-lab.local> <56F9BADC80974E69B8234C0E3555E155@HOMEHACKETT><0EE370AA-5B5F-4B4D-A3B7-652ECDD92004@suspiria.demon.co.uk> <007f01c9cc4a$3fab7fe0$bf027fa0$@com> Message-ID: <59AFDEEE5B00456988C3EF7122FF4FF2@edweil> No, Darren -- I think the Cookie Monster outfit will better suit you. ; ) When I'm out and about, I personally prefer Oscar the Grouch. k.w. the States ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren A. Peace To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Since I can't call this eve, I shall confirm here. Intrepid Fox at 6 on Wednesday for ticket business and beverages. I'll be wearing the Big Bird suit. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence Sent: 03 May 2009 21:02 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead good call ''blood /stains/pleasure ''...ring me bonus credit expires midnight or can you confirm here INTREPID FOX at 6 pm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 20:18:13 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Break. Darren Hungerford, UK On 3 May 2009, at 20:03, "Steve Hackett" wrote: The Tenant was my favourite track... ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk ; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Yeah, but the first one was good eh. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 03 May 2009 16:53 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub-Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. "Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing" doesn't begin to address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. Bullet time indeed. It's this sort of filmic tripe that makes me reach for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear to touch it again. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I still haven't figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect.load of waffle if you ask me. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man. Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a "successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Windows LiveT Hotmail?:.more than just e-mail. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 No virus found in this incoming message. 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Check it out._______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Beyond Hotmail ? see what else you can do with Windows Live. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665375/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Mon May 4 13:43:43 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 10:43:43 -0700 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote References: <010e01c9ccd8$80201c00$80605400$@com> Message-ID: My vote: "Brazil," "Brazil," "Brazil," "Brazil," "Brazil," "Brazil," "Brazil," "Brazil," "Brazil," "Brazil," "Brazil," "Brazil," "Brazil," "Brazil" .... did I mention "Brazil" ? k.w. A fan of certain movies ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren A. Peace To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote BRAZIL, clearly. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 04 May 2009 16:36 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Which was better; a) The Matrix b) Brazil My vote, BRAZIL!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don't worry about storage limits. Check it out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpeace at bigfoot.com Mon May 4 13:44:54 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 18:44:54 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09727D@mr-pants.the-lab.local> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09727D@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: <013d01c9cce0$090fa290$1b2ee7b0$@com> Heh. But the difference is we're all friends here, and are hardly going down the Das Experiment route. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade Sent: 04 May 2009 17:30 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote This is where it all goes wrong & the snobby cliques come to the fore. Brendan is no moron, but he likes the Matrix (as I do too). I also like Seconds, Straw Dogs, The Meaning of Life & Battle Royale. Oh & Brazil. It's interesting to see how groups form & create 'sides'. Especially when members of these groups are supposedly against non-inclusion, prejudice, etc. Yet fundamentally they play exactly the same game... different game-pieces, same game... I'm no better, of course. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 04 May 2009 16:36 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Which was better; a) The Matrix b) Brazil My vote, BRAZIL!!! _____ HotmailR has ever-growing storage! Don't worry about storage limits. Check it out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Mon May 4 13:48:02 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 10:48:02 -0700 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote References: <989E8D57-6937-44EE-8761-FB3F76E15040@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Very good choice, Alex. : ) My feelings about "The Matrix" are pretty similar. k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Alexander Smith To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Never saw "The Matrix" and couldn't give a fuck, so I'm going with "Brazil". Alex in NYC On May 4, 2009, at 11:36 AM, folk devil wrote: Which was better; a) The Matrix b) Brazil My vote, BRAZIL!!! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. Check it out._______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Mon May 4 13:49:33 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 10:49:33 -0700 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote References: Message-ID: <23865E23FEE349D9A2AAC58E0064F59B@edweil> Yes! Another in Gilliam's corner! Cheers, k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: folk devil To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 8:36 AM Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Which was better; a) The Matrix b) Brazil My vote, BRAZIL!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. Check it out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpeace at bigfoot.com Mon May 4 13:54:38 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 18:54:38 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09727D@mr-pants.the-lab.local> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09727D@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: <014701c9cce1$64cf1290$2e6d37b0$@com> And also - us lot here are all within the overarching Killing Joke Venn diagram. However the subsets work, props to anyone who is enthusiastic enough about KJ to have sought out this list, and more to those who contribute. Personally, someone liking Killing Joke is a quality that causes me to overlook all sorts of other peccadilloes, such as liking Queen. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade Sent: 04 May 2009 17:30 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote This is where it all goes wrong & the snobby cliques come to the fore. Brendan is no moron, but he likes the Matrix (as I do too). I also like Seconds, Straw Dogs, The Meaning of Life & Battle Royale. Oh & Brazil. It's interesting to see how groups form & create 'sides'. Especially when members of these groups are supposedly against non-inclusion, prejudice, etc. Yet fundamentally they play exactly the same game... different game-pieces, same game... I'm no better, of course. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 04 May 2009 16:36 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Which was better; a) The Matrix b) Brazil My vote, BRAZIL!!! _____ HotmailR has ever-growing storage! Don't worry about storage limits. Check it out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com Mon May 4 13:59:44 2009 From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 18:59:44 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097280@mr-pants.the-lab.local> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097280@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: Brazil, hands down. Tom Stoppard is a genius! b From karen.weil at sddt.com Mon May 4 14:09:02 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:09:02 -0700 Subject: [kj] Play dead References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097279@mr-pants.the-lab.local> <00eb01c9ccaf$5b68aea0$123a0be0$@com> Message-ID: <20B549D1D2374EC982BB8DF690A3AC8B@edweil> No, Darren: It's more like "Whoooooaaaaaaaa..." If you're going to do Keanu, attention must be paid. ; ) k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren A. Peace To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 4:56 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I make no apologies for being an irredeemable cynic about such things. The huge majority of people who saw the Mattress came out thinking "Dunno what the fuck that was all about, but those plastic trousers were awesome, dude. And guns. And special effects. And there's a computer game!" Whoah indeed. Yes, I'd think it a good thing if it caused even a few people to consider their place in the world a little more thoughtfully, but the metaphor is surely juvenile, internally inconsistent and facile. And anyone who can identify with Canoe should choose a better role model. Bah. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade Sent: 04 May 2009 11:15 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead It was indeed an eye-opener, so few of us consider stuff like "why should I go along with this game" & so on. It can seem like 'self realisation 101' to the open eyes on this list, but for the masses, it has value as a thought provoker - just think how many have seen that film & considered reality - that's no bad thing at all ! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 04 May 2009 06:08 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrix series introduced some concepts to non-readers that they mightn't otherwise come across, such as solipsism, questioning the nature of 'the real world' etc. I think most people find the concept of questioning the solidity or real nature of the physical world ridiculous, other than regurgitated ideas of heaven and hell. I remember my mate's wife's reaction to watching Maybe Logic (Robert Anton Wilson doco) - she couldn't come close to getting her head around what he was getting at so called it total rubbish. The idea of questioning the nature of reality / truth / gravity itself etc was impossible for her to do.totally trapped in The Matrix. Everything is solid, black and white, good and bad etc. So the first movie I think actually elevated people's consciousness a little, or a certain demographic at least. It also used the general artwork & the physics of fight scenes really well to flesh out the guts of the multi-dimensional reality it was trying to depict. But after that is was all style over substance, there was absolutely no need to delve any further into story in order to earn money, it was surefire paydirt to get the same actors and team back, throw shitloads of money at ridiculous disjointed action CGI and watch the money roll back in. And it showed, the second two movies detracted from the first, in a successively worse manner. I thought the 3rd might be some kind of redemption, a decent book-end to the series, but it just got worse. That chick was sorta almost pretty hot, in an angular, manly kind of way. Laurence Fishbourne was great as always. Keanu was passably okay-ish for the role, I think I'd have found someone like Ed Norton or Christian Bale preferable. Soundtrack was pretty good. Compares very favourably with shit like the new Star Wars movies. I'd watch the first movie again, but not sure about the other two. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Monday, 4 May 2009 09:33 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I guess no one enjoyed it like I did... 8) 8D ...and who hasn't felt like Neo when you've stepped into a greater level of awareness looking back in to the bubble of others' more limited grasp of "reality," - sans the super powers.... I only hope to never need "the Blue Pill" and may not everything end up tasting "like chicken" one day. And, of coourrse, Trinity was f#$*%in' hot the whole time. The 1st was the best (saw it on dvd right around the time I also saw PI so it was a good time all'round), the 2nd was a good sequel, but deh 3rd (pron'oonced 'turd') should've been cut down to 1/2-1/3 duration and just tagged on to the backend of the 2nd for completion's sake. That KJ progeny Juno Reactor was involved in spearheading that soundtrack (along with some RATM tunes) was pleasure for my ears throughout. the end ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darren A. Peace To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2009 8:53:14 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub-Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. "Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing" doesn't begin to address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. Bullet time indeed. It's this sort of filmic tripe that makes me reach for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear to touch it again. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I still haven't figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect.load of waffle if you ask me. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man. Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a "successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Windows LiveT Hotmail?:.more than just e-mail. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.13/2091 - Release Date: 05/02/09 14:23:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.16/2094 - Release Date: 05/03/09 16:51:00 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Mon May 4 14:10:11 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:10:11 -0700 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097280@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: <1969F56A6239442CA52F6191E8123B1D@edweil> Now worries. Hope you are in better spirits. And "Seconds" is a really disturbing film -- but well done. k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Folky, I apologise if the below mail was a little bit cuntish - I'm in a shitty mood this afternoon. Sorry again, ade. This is where it all goes wrong & the snobby cliques come to the fore. Brendan is no moron, but he likes the Matrix (as I do too). I also like Seconds, Straw Dogs, The Meaning of Life & Battle Royale. Oh & Brazil. It's interesting to see how groups form & create 'sides'. Especially when members of these groups are supposedly against non-inclusion, prejudice, etc. Yet fundamentally they play exactly the same game... different game-pieces, same game... I'm no better, of course. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 04 May 2009 16:36 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Which was better; a) The Matrix b) Brazil My vote, BRAZIL!!! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. Check it out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Mon May 4 14:10:52 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:10:52 -0700 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote References: Message-ID: *Gasp,* Milinda -- we must get you schooled! "Brazil" is a masterpiece, period. Rent it, please. You will not be sorry. : ) k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: melinda grant To: thegathering mailing list Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote having never seen-brazil--i say matrix have dvd boxset ;) milindafgrant ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: folk.devil at hotmail.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 08:36:28 -0700 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Which was better; a) The Matrix b) Brazil My vote, BRAZIL!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. 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Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The setlist will be "Implant, " Afterburner, Seeing Red, Are You Receiving, Blood On Your Hands, Asteroid, Inside the "Termite Mound", Follow The Breeders, Gay Tease, Come As You Are, Another Bloody Erection, Beautiful Head, Slipscream, Dominator, Hung & Dance, Butchie, Wilful Gaze, My Love Of This Man, Chapped Her "Tree", The Panzys are Coming, encore: The Hummer, Dorkness Before Brawn, Another Grunt Goes Down, Who Taught You How?, ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Darren A. Peace To: ade ; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2009 6:42:27 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go as an old woman up a stick. Are you coming to the Heaven gayfest, then? Darren Hungerford, UK From: ade [mailto:ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk] Sent: 04 May 2009 01:01 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: RE: [kj] Play dead > I?ll be wearing the Big Bird suit. Dammit. Back to the drawing board.. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 04 May 2009 00:53 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Since I can?t call this eve, I shall confirm here. Intrepid Fox at 6 on Wednesday for ticket business and beverages. I?ll be wearing the Big Bird suit. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence Sent: 03 May 2009 21:02 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead good call ''blood /stains/pleasure ''...ring me bonus credit expires midnight or can you confirm here INTREPID FOX at 6 pm ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 20:18:13 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Break. Darren Hungerford, UK On 3 May 2009, at 20:03, "Steve Hackett" wrote: The Tenant was my favourite track... ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk ; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Yeah, but the first one was good eh. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 03 May 2009 16:53 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub-Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. ?Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing? doesn?t begin to address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. Bullet time indeed. It?s this sort of filmic tripe that makes me reach for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear to touch it again. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I still haven?t figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect?load of waffle if you ask me. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a "successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 No virus found in this incoming message. 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URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Mon May 4 14:20:58 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:20:58 -0700 Subject: [kj] Play dead References: rv.hcvlny.cv.net><003b01c9caa5$98405fa0$0600000a@jo><04a501c9caaf$dbfbf560$93f3e020$@com> <014201c9cabf$3e694360$0600000a@jo> Message-ID: <3B47200781E4412F96CDA18F38A840FF@edweil> Nice suggestion, jo -- almost Swiftian in its proposal. However, I doubt anyone would be interested in what would be left of me. I figure the coyotes and vultures can do their job, as nature intended them to. ; ) But I do love your recipe. Bon appetite, k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: jo To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Shan't be needing the undertaker, can't let things go to waste:-) I suggest BBQ'd body parts (feel free to bring your own) accompanied by freshly foraged wild mushrooms, cresses and garlic served with spicy, jellied stomach contents (again, feel free to bring your own). Dessert will be my own take on a Rum Baba - I called it my 'Sweet Steaming Floater' Oh, dear. We're in bigger trouble than I thought. ; ) I'll ready the undertaker ... k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren A. Peace To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Mexican pork. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: 01 May 2009 23:17 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead What's on the menu? ; ) kw. ----- Original Message ----- From: jo To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I'll take you up on that if he doesn't! Fuck this shit... We're all going to dinner at Folk's house and fix his PC. 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URL: From stephen.l at live.com Mon May 4 14:21:19 2009 From: stephen.l at live.com (Stephen Lawrence) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 18:21:19 +0000 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09727C@mr-pants.the-lab.local> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09727C@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: no they are clever slavery constructs Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 17:16:11 +0100 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Our shitstems are simply theories. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 04 May 2009 16:34 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Most of our 'realities' are social and cultural constructions. A good contemporary example would be 'the West' v. Islam. The greatest influence on a society's ID would be its language. If you lose the language, you lose the culture. Everyone speak English, now! There used to be some psychological theory (Laing) who actually saw Psychosis as more of a break from these constru(i)ctions, in some cases. From: stephen.l at live.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 10:53:36 +0000 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead well ade there are the spiritually alive and the beautiful dead Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:14:33 +0100 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead It was indeed an eye-opener, so few of us consider stuff like "why should I go along with this game" & so on. It can seem like 'self realisation 101' to the open eyes on this list, but for the masses, it has value as a thought provoker - just think how many have seen that film & considered reality - that's no bad thing at all ! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 04 May 2009 06:08 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrix series introduced some concepts to non-readers that they mightn?t otherwise come across, such as solipsism, questioning the nature of ?the real world? etc. I think most people find the concept of questioning the solidity or real nature of the physical world ridiculous, other than regurgitated ideas of heaven and hell. I remember my mate?s wife?s reaction to watching Maybe Logic (Robert Anton Wilson doco) ? she couldn?t come close to getting her head around what he was getting at so called it total rubbish. The idea of questioning the nature of reality / truth / gravity itself etc was impossible for her to do?totally trapped in The Matrix. Everything is solid, black and white, good and bad etc. So the first movie I think actually elevated people?s consciousness a little, or a certain demographic at least. It also used the general artwork & the physics of fight scenes really well to flesh out the guts of the multi-dimensional reality it was trying to depict. But after that is was all style over substance, there was absolutely no need to delve any further into story in order to earn money, it was surefire paydirt to get the same actors and team back, throw shitloads of money at ridiculous disjointed action CGI and watch the money roll back in. And it showed, the second two movies detracted from the first, in a successively worse manner. I thought the 3rd might be some kind of redemption, a decent book-end to the series, but it just got worse. That chick was sorta almost pretty hot, in an angular, manly kind of way. Laurence Fishbourne was great as always. Keanu was passably okay-ish for the role, I think I?d have found someone like Ed Norton or Christian Bale preferable. Soundtrack was pretty good. Compares very favourably with shit like the new Star Wars movies. I?d watch the first movie again, but not sure about the other two. Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail?. See how. _________________________________________________________________ View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place ? Learn more! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/137984870/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Mon May 4 14:22:07 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:22:07 -0700 Subject: [kj] Fwd: Play dead References: <4643CE59-1E1A-42EB-B6D0-62534D5CB90A@suspiria.demon.co.uk> <3DF41F08-5159-4C72-9612-61104CF4869E@suspiria.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <3590A98102034E8B92055A630CEBB251@edweil> I prefer a steam roller, myself. ; ) kw ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren A. Peace To: The Gathering Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 12:19 PM Subject: [kj] Fwd: Play dead Begin forwarded message: From: "Darren A. Peace" Date: 3 May 2009 20:17:07 BST To: ade Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead 6000000000 bonus points! Bomb dogs. Darren Hungerford, UK On 3 May 2009, at 19:44, "ade" wrote: > smash it with hammers Blind tube mares? -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 03 May 2009 16:53 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub-Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. ?Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing? doesn?t begin to address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. Bullet time indeed. It?s this sort of filmic tripe that makes me reach for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear to touch it again. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I still haven?t figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect?load of waffle if you ask me. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a "successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. 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URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Mon May 4 14:33:17 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:33:17 -0700 Subject: [kj] OT: Nobelprize-winning economistPaulKrugman onthe economiccrisis References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097259@mr-pants.the-lab.local><42F0F313354B4EDF9CD59526B65C7FA0@HeadHigh> <284565.66927.qm@web110205.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <699DB0E5ADA044289604490311F4EA0F@edweil> Sade: Are you kidding? That would wipe out governmental debts elsewhere! ; ) (Well, it would be damn-near close.) In my home state of Nevada, prostitution is legal by county option, and more than a few counties (but not Clark, where my hometown of Las Vegas is located) allow it. Despite their so-called social conservative values, there's no way in Hades most residents in these counties would want the brothels gone, as the revenue source is just too strong. So, you may be onto something with the 70-euro idea. Ciao, Karen W. SoCal ----- Original Message ----- From: sade1 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Nobelprize-winning economistPaulKrugman onthe economiccrisis I like the free day pass idea, and this too, "...a 70-euro admission charge for unlimited food, drink and sex between 10 a.m. and 4 p.m." What would happen if they socialized it (prostitution), or if the government were to nationalize it? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2009 2:17:30 AM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Nobelprize-winning economistPaulKrugman onthe economic crisis ?Who needs effects, who needs to pay for sex?? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 08:22 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Nobelprize-winning economistPaulKrugman onthe economic crisis http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE53K00G20090421 > From: karen.weil at sddt.com > To: gathering at misera.net > Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 14:00:22 -0700 > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economistPaulKrugman onthe economic crisis > > Yes, yes, ade. I know that much. I hear the rates are better these days, > though, due to the wretched economy. ; ) > > Cheers, > > KW > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ade" > To: " A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" > > Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 1:15 PM > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economistPaulKrugman onthe > economic crisis > > > Pay to see tea-bagging? Most do: > > http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=teabagger > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. 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Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The government is watching you through your monitor. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence Sent: 01 May 2009 09:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead thanks bo to be honest i don't know which version i have ..i'm a bit wary of downloads and installations ..i was once told that programs can''fight '' with each other whether that is true i don;t know i have vlc and real player and win amp but prefer media player for the database > Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 08:57:29 +0100 > From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Stephen Lawrence wrote: > > > thanks brendan i think i might have problem with the codec as i can't play > > wma files ....actually i deleted it when jo said she couldn't help me > > What version of Media Player are you using? In the old days, Microsoft > distributed the codecs separately, but now those redistribution packs > are (apparently) only available to developers. However, they CLAIM > that if you upgrade Media Player, you get the latest codec bundle as > well: > > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/download/AllDownloads.aspx > > Alternatively, if you feel adventurous you could grab either smplayer > (my personal fave) or vlc (equally good). At least i know for sure > that the "extra codecs" pack for smplayer supports both WMA and WMV > version 9. > > > b > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surfing the web just got more rewarding. Download the New Internet Explorer 8 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Mon May 4 15:05:18 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 12:05:18 -0700 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097280@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: <9157AB25DE884B6281032A8EEBA55DA2@edweil> You said it, Bo. kw USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bo Krogsgaard" To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote > Brazil, hands down. Tom Stoppard is a genius! > > > b > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From karen.weil at sddt.com Mon May 4 15:07:14 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 12:07:14 -0700 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09727D@mr-pants.the-lab.local> <014701c9cce1$64cf1290$2e6d37b0$@com> Message-ID: <06790065218C42C79A728AAA214CE640@edweil> Hey -- I only had one of their albums ("The Game") as a pre-teen. ; ) k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren A. Peace To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote And also - us lot here are all within the overarching Killing Joke Venn diagram. However the subsets work, props to anyone who is enthusiastic enough about KJ to have sought out this list, and more to those who contribute. Personally, someone liking Killing Joke is a quality that causes me to overlook all sorts of other peccadilloes, such as liking Queen. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade Sent: 04 May 2009 17:30 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote This is where it all goes wrong & the snobby cliques come to the fore. Brendan is no moron, but he likes the Matrix (as I do too). I also like Seconds, Straw Dogs, The Meaning of Life & Battle Royale. Oh & Brazil. It's interesting to see how groups form & create 'sides'. Especially when members of these groups are supposedly against non-inclusion, prejudice, etc. Yet fundamentally they play exactly the same game... different game-pieces, same game... I'm no better, of course. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 04 May 2009 16:36 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Which was better; a) The Matrix b) Brazil My vote, BRAZIL!!! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don't worry about storage limits. Check it out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Mon May 4 15:08:42 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 12:08:42 -0700 Subject: [kj] Play dead References: rv.hcvlny.cv.net><003b01c9caa5$98405fa0$0600000a@jo><04a501c9caaf$dbfbf560$93f3e020$@com> <913732.21342.qm@web110211.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0D42F604235B47F9930DA7AD97DBDC78@edweil> Ah, I think I prefer the ready-made model. ; ) k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: sade1 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > I'll ready the undertaker ... Will that be 'need,' or 'pre-need'? Don't fear the reaper. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Karen Weil To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 4:14:27 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Oh, dear. We're in bigger trouble than I thought. ; ) I'll ready the undertaker ... k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren A. Peace To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Mexican pork. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: 01 May 2009 23:17 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead What's on the menu? ; ) kw. ----- Original Message ----- From: jo To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I'll take you up on that if he doesn't! Fuck this shit... We're all going to dinner at Folk's house and fix his PC. 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I mean, flew. *badum pssh* ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' From: Darren A. Peace To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 3:55:00 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Mexican pork. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: 01 May 2009 23:17 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead What's on the menu? ; ) kw. ----- Original Message ----- From: jo To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I'll take you up on that if he doesn't! Fuck this shit... We're all going to dinner at Folk's house and fix his PC. 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However, I think he now looks more like a Sandworm. http://images.mmosite.com/photo/2007/11/01/sandwormX27261u476.jpg Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: 01 May 2009 00:31 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (so OT) Dutch Royals Minus the grostesque floating apparatus. ; ) k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Brendan Quinn To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [kj] (so OT) Dutch Royals Boy George is looking more like Baron Harkonnen every day. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGX2xSjND_0 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: Friday, 1 May 2009 05:04 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] (so OT) Dutch Royals That's absolutely appalling. Here's some light relief: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2403844.ece Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: 30 April 2009 18:34 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: [kj] (so OT) Dutch Royals Anyone else see this: updated 16 minutes ago Man charged in attempted attack on Dutch royals ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' No virus found in this incoming message. 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I hear the rates are better these days, > though, due to the wretched economy. ; ) > > Cheers, > > KW > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ade" > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" > > Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 1:15 PM > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economistPaulKrugman onthe > economic crisis > > > Pay to see tea-bagging? Most do: > > http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=teabagger > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. Check it out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Mon May 4 15:26:37 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 12:26:37 -0700 Subject: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman onthe economic crisis References: <35994.203.210.68.145.1241110562.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <5AE1ED4BB62243C59E45FC0E2AAABA6B@HeadHigh> <49FABCDD.4040504@sbcglobal.net><42154.203.210.68.145.1241172041.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <49FACB05.6020401@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Oh my Gawd -- anti-tax porn! ; ) Jim Dobson is going to have a fit ... ; ) kw ----- Original Message ----- From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 3:12 AM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman onthe economic crisis > No, it's not just you. It's been a running joke on the left, to make fun > of conservatives. :) > > Rachel Maddow even did a segment on the term and the tea-baggers, on her > show: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB22gw09c6U > > > > Also, some anti-tea bagger people showed up at their rallies to further > the joke: > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/wolfbrigade/teabagged.jpg <-- > picture of man dangling tea bag into his mouth > > -Oliver > > Brendan wrote: >> Is it just me, or does anyone else get a mental impression of insecure >> older white guys paying younger males to draps their nutpurse over their >> face when they hear the term tea-bagging...? >> >> Please tell me it's not just me, my therapist's To Do list is already a >> yard long ;) >> > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Mon May 4 15:27:01 2009 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 20:27:01 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097282@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Double dammit!!!! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: 04 May 2009 18:28 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead No, Darren -- I think the Cookie Monster outfit will better suit you. ; ) When I'm out and about, I personally prefer Oscar the Grouch. k.w. the States ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren A. Peace To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Since I can't call this eve, I shall confirm here. Intrepid Fox at 6 on Wednesday for ticket business and beverages. I'll be wearing the Big Bird suit. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence Sent: 03 May 2009 21:02 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead good call ''blood /stains/pleasure ''...ring me bonus credit expires midnight or can you confirm here INTREPID FOX at 6 pm _____ From: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 20:18:13 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Break. Darren Hungerford, UK On 3 May 2009, at 20:03, "Steve Hackett" < thepunisher at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: The Tenant was my favourite track... ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk ; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Yeah, but the first one was good eh. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 03 May 2009 16:53 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub-Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. "Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing" doesn't begin to address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. Bullet time indeed. It's this sort of filmic tripe that makes me reach for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear to touch it again. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I still haven't figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect...load of waffle if you ask me. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man... Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a "successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' _____ From: Brendan Quinn < bq at soundgardener.co.nz> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) < gathering at misera.net> Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man... _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. _____ Windows Live(tm) Hotmail?:...more than just e-mail. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 No virus found in this incoming message. 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URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Mon May 4 15:29:11 2009 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 20:29:11 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097283@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Seconds - a bit of an old gem that one ;) I love how far back mindfuck films go. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: 04 May 2009 19:10 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Now worries. Hope you are in better spirits. And "Seconds" is a really disturbing film -- but well done. k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Folky, I apologise if the below mail was a little bit cuntish - I'm in a shitty mood this afternoon. Sorry again, ade. This is where it all goes wrong & the snobby cliques come to the fore. Brendan is no moron, but he likes the Matrix (as I do too). I also like Seconds, Straw Dogs, The Meaning of Life & Battle Royale. Oh & Brazil. It's interesting to see how groups form & create 'sides'. Especially when members of these groups are supposedly against non-inclusion, prejudice, etc. Yet fundamentally they play exactly the same game... different game-pieces, same game... I'm no better, of course. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 04 May 2009 16:36 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Which was better; a) The Matrix b) Brazil My vote, BRAZIL!!! _____ Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. Check it out. _____ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Mon May 4 15:31:12 2009 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 20:31:12 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097284@mr-pants.the-lab.local> It's the slippery slope mate - one minute it's the who's who of respected film director's, next minute they're stoking the ovens & chucking Matrix fans in by the score. You mark my words. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 04 May 2009 18:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Heh. But the difference is we're all friends here, and are hardly going down the Das Experiment route. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade Sent: 04 May 2009 17:30 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote This is where it all goes wrong & the snobby cliques come to the fore. Brendan is no moron, but he likes the Matrix (as I do too). I also like Seconds, Straw Dogs, The Meaning of Life & Battle Royale. Oh & Brazil. It's interesting to see how groups form & create 'sides'. Especially when members of these groups are supposedly against non-inclusion, prejudice, etc. Yet fundamentally they play exactly the same game... different game-pieces, same game... I'm no better, of course. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 04 May 2009 16:36 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Which was better; a) The Matrix b) Brazil My vote, BRAZIL!!! _____ Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don't worry about storage limits. Check it out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Mon May 4 15:40:00 2009 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 20:40:00 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097285@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Yes, fair comment, I'm simply picking out the processes from behind an evaluation & ignoring context. By my logic, I should be hung for preferring green jelly babies from all the other colours. Worse still, I can't stand the black ones. Is that supposed to be blackcurrant flavour? Fucking horrible. But it is interesting to see how many simple processes (primitives) are lumped together into 'macros' in the brain, tiny parts being re-used over & over again in very different (or not) situations. I have to make a coding reference as that clicks for me. I'll be wearing my Queen t-shirt Wednesday, replete with Brian May wig & Derek Smalls cucumber. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 04 May 2009 18:55 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote And also - us lot here are all within the overarching Killing Joke Venn diagram. However the subsets work, props to anyone who is enthusiastic enough about KJ to have sought out this list, and more to those who contribute. Personally, someone liking Killing Joke is a quality that causes me to overlook all sorts of other peccadilloes, such as liking Queen. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade Sent: 04 May 2009 17:30 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote This is where it all goes wrong & the snobby cliques come to the fore. Brendan is no moron, but he likes the Matrix (as I do too). I also like Seconds, Straw Dogs, The Meaning of Life & Battle Royale. Oh & Brazil. It's interesting to see how groups form & create 'sides'. Especially when members of these groups are supposedly against non-inclusion, prejudice, etc. Yet fundamentally they play exactly the same game... different game-pieces, same game... I'm no better, of course. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 04 May 2009 16:36 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Which was better; a) The Matrix b) Brazil My vote, BRAZIL!!! _____ Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don't worry about storage limits. Check it out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Mon May 4 15:40:41 2009 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 20:40:41 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097286@mr-pants.the-lab.local> I see your god is well versed in them. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence Sent: 04 May 2009 19:21 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead no they are clever slavery constructs _____ Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 17:16:11 +0100 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Our shitstems are simply theories. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 04 May 2009 16:34 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Most of our 'realities' are social and cultural constructions. A good contemporary example would be 'the West' v. Islam. The greatest influence on a society's ID would be its language. If you lose the language, you lose the culture. Everyone speak English, now! There used to be some psychological theory (Laing) who actually saw Psychosis as more of a break from these constru(i)ctions, in some cases. _____ From: stephen.l at live.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 10:53:36 +0000 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead well ade there are the spiritually alive and the beautiful dead _____ Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:14:33 +0100 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead It was indeed an eye-opener, so few of us consider stuff like "why should I go along with this game" & so on. It can seem like 'self realisation 101' to the open eyes on this list, but for the masses, it has value as a thought provoker - just think how many have seen that film & considered reality - that's no bad thing at all ! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 04 May 2009 06:08 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrix series introduced some concepts to non-readers that they mightn?t otherwise come across, such as solipsism, questioning the nature of ?the real world? etc. I think most people find the concept of questioning the solidity or real nature of the physical world ridiculous, other than regurgitated ideas of heaven and hell. I remember my mate?s wife?s reaction to watching Maybe Logic (Robert Anton Wilson doco) ? she couldn?t come close to getting her head around what he was getting at so called it total rubbish. The idea of questioning the nature of reality / truth / gravity itself etc was impossible for her to do?totally trapped in The Matrix. Everything is solid, black and white, good and bad etc. So the first movie I think actually elevated people?s consciousness a little, or a certain demographic at least. It also used the general artwork & the physics of fight scenes really well to flesh out the guts of the multi-dimensional reality it was trying to depict. But after that is was all style over substance, there was absolutely no need to delve any further into story in order to earn money, it was surefire paydirt to get the same actors and team back, throw shitloads of money at ridiculous disjointed action CGI and watch the money roll back in. And it showed, the second two movies detracted from the first, in a successively worse manner. I thought the 3rd might be some kind of redemption, a decent book-end to the series, but it just got worse. That chick was sorta almost pretty hot, in an angular, manly kind of way. Laurence Fishbourne was great as always. Keanu was passably okay-ish for the role, I think I?d have found someone like Ed Norton or Christian Bale preferable. Soundtrack was pretty good. Compares very favourably with shit like the new Star Wars movies. I?d watch the first movie again, but not sure about the other two. _____ _____ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail?. See how. _____ Windows Live Messenger just got better. Find out more! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From saulomar1 at yahoo.com Mon May 4 16:02:09 2009 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 13:02:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <776422B486864693A401FDD959139AF5@HeadHigh> References: <032f01c9c8ec$e17b21b0$0600000a@jo><013e01c9c9d1$624fe200$0600000a@jo><21195C2B6FBB466F8F32185834468275@HeadHigh><37429.203.210.68.145.1241171733.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><020f01c9ca48$ead76310$c0862930$@com><34486.203.210.68.145.1241176018.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><022601c9ca53$d7a1a0c0$86e4e240$@com><43619.203.210.68.145.1241181549.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><024601c9ca63$c022f7e0$4068e7a0$@com><7D1EBE6A20854621961409B5BE8352F8@HeadHigh><679343.87926.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><002701c9cc07$45337f50$cf9a7df0$@com> <877809.47035.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <776422B4868 64693A401FDD959139AF5@HeadHigh> Message-ID: <991937.63905.qm@web110208.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> All very well put. ? I know plenty of people who liked having seen exposed?the "matrix" and the greater reality? (from which you can look into the "matrix") - itself?viewable from an outer 'greater reality' etcetce.tc.aetc . ad infinitum et ad nauseam..... A bit both?humbling and also sharpens one's?own perceptions and understanding of one's own perceptual?limitations.............. ????????????????????................. that is, until you?confront the "Upgrades." Oh, and Monica Bellucci.?I forgot about her.? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things..] ? 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? ________________________________ From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2009 10:07:42 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrix series introduced some concepts to non-readers that they mightn?t otherwise come across, such as solipsism, questioning the nature of ?the real world? etc. I think most people find the concept of questioning the solidity or real nature of the physical world ridiculous, other than regurgitated ideas of heaven and hell. I remember my mate?s wife?s reaction to watching Maybe Logic (Robert Anton Wilson doco) ? she couldn?t come close to getting her head around what he was getting at so called it total rubbish. The idea of questioning the nature of reality / truth / gravity itself etc was impossible for her to do?totally trapped in The Matrix. Everything is solid, black and white, good and bad etc. So the first movie I think actually elevated people?s consciousness a little, or a certain demographic at least. ? It also used the general artwork & the physics of fight scenes really well to flesh out the guts of the multi-dimensional reality it was trying to depict. But after that is was all style over substance, there was absolutely no need to delve any further into story in order to earn money, it was surefire paydirt to get the same actors and team back, throw shitloads of money at ridiculous disjointed action CGI and watch the money roll back in. And it showed, the second two movies detracted from the first, in a successively worse manner. I thought the 3rd might be some kind of redemption, a decent book-end to the series, but it just got worse. ? That chick was sorta almost pretty hot, in an angular, manly kind of way. Laurence Fishbourne was great as always. Keanu was passably okay-ish for the role, I think I?d have found someone like Ed Norton or Christian Bale preferable. Soundtrack was pretty good. Compares very favourably with shit like the new Star Wars movies. I?d watch the first movie again, but not sure about the other two. ? ________________________________ From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Monday, 4 May 2009 09:33 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead ? I guess no one enjoyed it like?I did... 8)? 8D ? ? ...and who hasn't felt like Neo when you've stepped into a greater level of awareness looking back in to the bubble of others' more limited grasp of "reality," - sans the super powers.... I only hope to never need "the Blue Pill" and may not everything end up tasting "like chicken" one day.? And, of coourrse,?Trinity was f#$*%in' hot the whole time. ? The 1st was the best (saw it on dvd right around the time I also saw PI so it was a good time all'round), the 2nd was a good sequel, but deh 3rd (pron'oonced 'turd') should've been cut down to 1/2-1/3 duration and just tagged on to the backend of the 2nd for completion's sake. ? That KJ progeny Juno Reactor was involved in spearheading that soundtrack (along with some RATM tunes) was pleasure for my ears throughout. ? the end ? ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things..] ? 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? ? ? ? ________________________________ From:Darren A. Peace To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2009 8:53:14 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub-Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. ? ?Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing? doesn?t begin to address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. ? Bullet time indeed. It?s this sort of filmic tripe that makes me reach for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. ? And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear to touch it again. ? Darren Hungerford, UK ? From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead ? I still haven?t figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect?load of waffle if you ask me. ? ________________________________ From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead ? > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? ? Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a?"successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg? (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ? ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things..] ? 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? ? ? ? ________________________________ From:Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? ? ________________________________ From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead ? iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows,?still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing?the delta 1010, with the original s/c?no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying?at the beginning of each recording session. ? ________________________________ Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. 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However, I doubt anyone would be interested in what would be left of me. I figure the coyotes and vultures can do their job, as nature intended them to. ; ) But I do love your recipe. ? Bon appetite, ? k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: jo To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Shan't be needing the undertaker, can't let things go to waste:-) ? I suggest BBQ'd body parts (feel free to bring your own) accompanied by freshly foraged wild mushrooms, cresses and garlic served with spicy, jellied stomach contents (again, feel free to bring your own).? Dessert will be my own take on a Rum? Baba - I called it my 'Sweet Steaming Floater' ? Oh, dear. We're in bigger trouble than I thought.? ; ) ? I'll ready the undertaker ... ? k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren A. Peace To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Mexican pork. ? Darren Hungerford, UK ? From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: 01 May 2009 23:17 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead ? What's on the menu? ; ) ? kw. ----- Original Message ----- From:jo To:A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent:Friday, May 01, 2009 2:41 PM Subject:Re: [kj] Play dead ? I'll take you up on that if he doesn't! ? Fuck this shit... We're all going to dinner at Folk's house and fix his PC. 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URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Mon May 4 16:22:50 2009 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 21:22:50 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097287@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Johnny Mnemonic. Ahem. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Alexander Smith Sent: 04 May 2009 20:13 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote With the arguable exception of "River's Edge," name a single film Keanu Reeves has been in that hasn't sucked a giant one. Alex in NYC On May 4, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Karen Weil wrote: Very good choice, Alex. : ) My feelings about "The Matrix" are pretty similar. k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Alexander Smith To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Never saw "The Matrix" and couldn't give a fuck, so I'm going with "Brazil". Alex in NYC On May 4, 2009, at 11:36 AM, folk devil wrote: Which was better; a) The Matrix b) Brazil My vote, BRAZIL!!! _____ Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. Check it out._______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com Mon May 4 16:29:46 2009 From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 21:29:46 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote In-Reply-To: References: <989E8D57-6937-44EE-8761-FB3F76E15040@earthlink.net> Message-ID: On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Alexander Smith wrote: > With the arguable exception of "River's Edge," name a single film Keanu > Reeves has been in that hasn't sucked a giant one. > Alex in NYC Errata: With the arguable exception of A Scanner Darkly (which was still shite next to Waking Life), name a single film Keanu Reeves has been in that hasn't sucked a giant one. b From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com Mon May 4 16:33:10 2009 From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 21:33:10 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: lol thanks for the tip karen,i will check brazil out ;) milindafgrant From: karen.weil at sddt.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:10:52 -0700 Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote *Gasp,* Milinda -- we must get you schooled! "Brazil" is a masterpiece, period. Rent it, please. You will not be sorry. : ) k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: melinda grant To: thegathering mailing list Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote having never seen-brazil--i say matrix have dvd boxset ;) milindafgrant From: folk.devil at hotmail.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 08:36:28 -0700 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Which was better; a) The Matrix b) Brazil My vote, BRAZIL!!! Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. Check it out. Windows Live Messenger just got better. Find out more! _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos ? 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Alex in NYC On May 4, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Karen Weil wrote: Very good choice, Alex. : ) My feelings about "The Matrix" are pretty similar. k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Alexander Smith To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Never saw "The Matrix" and couldn't give a fuck, so I'm going with "Brazil". Alex in NYC On May 4, 2009, at 11:36 AM, folk devil wrote: Which was better; a) The Matrix b) Brazil My vote, BRAZIL!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. 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You will not be sorry. : ) k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: melinda grant To: thegathering mailing list Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote having never seen-brazil--i say matrix have dvd boxset ;) milindafgrant From: folk.devil at hotmail.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 08:36:28 -0700 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Which was better; a) The Matrix b) Brazil My vote, BRAZIL!!! Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. Check it out. Windows Live Messenger just got better. Find out more! _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place ? Learn more! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/137984870/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpeace at bigfoot.com Mon May 4 16:42:39 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 21:42:39 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097285@mr-pants.the-lab.local> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097285@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: <020701c9ccf8$de35bff0$9aa13fd0$@com> Another concern I have with your logic is that the only way to avoid this situation, under your terms, would be for everyone to share the same tastes and enthusiasms. Doubtless enforceably. I like the black jelly babies best, and despise the green ones. Honest truth. We must arrange a jelly-baby exchange program. And with regard to your chosen uniform for Wednesday, the cucumber in particular will make you very popular with the regular clientele of the venue. Might I suggest Sir sports a red handkerchief hanging out of his back pocket? Darren Hungerford, UK From: ade [mailto:ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk] Sent: 04 May 2009 20:40 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: RE: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Yes, fair comment, I'm simply picking out the processes from behind an evaluation & ignoring context. By my logic, I should be hung for preferring green jelly babies from all the other colours. Worse still, I can't stand the black ones. Is that supposed to be blackcurrant flavour? Fucking horrible. But it is interesting to see how many simple processes (primitives) are lumped together into 'macros' in the brain, tiny parts being re-used over & over again in very different (or not) situations. I have to make a coding reference as that clicks for me. I'll be wearing my Queen t-shirt Wednesday, replete with Brian May wig & Derek Smalls cucumber. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 04 May 2009 18:55 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote And also - us lot here are all within the overarching Killing Joke Venn diagram. However the subsets work, props to anyone who is enthusiastic enough about KJ to have sought out this list, and more to those who contribute. Personally, someone liking Killing Joke is a quality that causes me to overlook all sorts of other peccadilloes, such as liking Queen. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade Sent: 04 May 2009 17:30 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote This is where it all goes wrong & the snobby cliques come to the fore. Brendan is no moron, but he likes the Matrix (as I do too). I also like Seconds, Straw Dogs, The Meaning of Life & Battle Royale. Oh & Brazil. It's interesting to see how groups form & create 'sides'. Especially when members of these groups are supposedly against non-inclusion, prejudice, etc. Yet fundamentally they play exactly the same game... different game-pieces, same game... I'm no better, of course. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 04 May 2009 16:36 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Which was better; a) The Matrix b) Brazil My vote, BRAZIL!!! _____ HotmailR has ever-growing storage! Don't worry about storage limits. Check it out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Mon May 4 16:45:00 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 13:45:00 -0700 Subject: [kj] Play dead References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097282@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: It's Oscar for me because ... "I Love Trash!" Don't forget, ade: Bert, Ernie and Snuffleupagus are still available, and the wardrobe is better -- at least for Bert and Ernie. ; ) kw San Diego ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Double dammit!!!! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: 04 May 2009 18:28 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead No, Darren -- I think the Cookie Monster outfit will better suit you. ; ) When I'm out and about, I personally prefer Oscar the Grouch. k.w. the States ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren A. Peace To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Since I can't call this eve, I shall confirm here. Intrepid Fox at 6 on Wednesday for ticket business and beverages. I'll be wearing the Big Bird suit. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence Sent: 03 May 2009 21:02 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead good call ''blood /stains/pleasure ''...ring me bonus credit expires midnight or can you confirm here INTREPID FOX at 6 pm -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 20:18:13 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Break. Darren Hungerford, UK On 3 May 2009, at 20:03, "Steve Hackett" wrote: The Tenant was my favourite track... ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk ; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Yeah, but the first one was good eh. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 03 May 2009 16:53 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub-Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. "Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing" doesn't begin to address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. Bullet time indeed. It's this sort of filmic tripe that makes me reach for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear to touch it again. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I still haven't figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect...load of waffle if you ask me. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man... Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a "successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man... -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! 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However the subsets work, props to anyone who is > enthusiastic enough about KJ to have sought out this list, and more > to those who contribute. > > Personally, someone liking Killing Joke is a quality that causes me > to overlook all sorts of other peccadilloes, such as liking Queen. > > Darren > Hungerford, UK > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net > ] On Behalf Of ade > Sent: 04 May 2009 17:30 > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote > > This is where it all goes wrong & the snobby cliques come to the > fore. Brendan is no moron, but he > likes the Matrix (as I do too). I also like Seconds, Straw Dogs, The > Meaning of Life & Battle Royale. > Oh & Brazil. > > It's interesting to see how groups form & create 'sides'. Especially > when members of these groups > are supposedly against non-inclusion, prejudice, etc. Yet > fundamentally they play exactly the same > game... different game-pieces, same game... > > I'm no better, of course. > -----Original Message----- > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net > ]On Behalf Of folk devil > Sent: 04 May 2009 16:36 > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote > Which was better; > a) The Matrix > b) Brazil > > My vote, BRAZIL!!! > > Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. > Check it out. > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Mon May 4 17:00:34 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 14:00:34 -0700 Subject: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman onthe economic crisis References: <35994.203.210.68.145.1241110562.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> <5AE1ED4BB62243C59E45FC0E2AAABA6B@HeadHigh> <49FABCDD.4040504@sbcglobal.net><42154.203.210.68.145.1241172041.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz><49FACB05.6020401@sbcglobal.net> <21119.203.210.68.145.1241175120.squirrel@mail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: They were in power for essentially 10 years -- for now, at least, they've worn out their welcome. And yes, it must be a shock, but they really have no one to blame but themselves, just as the Democrats and liberal political elements did when they were given the boot 15 or so years ago. kw ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brendan" To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 3:52 AM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman onthe economic crisis > LOL. It's quite a perverse reaction from the conservatives. When you think > about it, they must really be on the ropes right now...must be culture > shock for them to go from a position of complete power under Bush to > complete impotence now... > >> No, it's not just you. It's been a running joke on the left, to make fun >> of conservatives. :) >> >> Rachel Maddow even did a segment on the term and the tea-baggers, on her >> show: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB22gw09c6U >> >> >> >> Also, some anti-tea bagger people showed up at their rallies to further >> the joke: >> >> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/wolfbrigade/teabagged.jpg <-- >> picture of man dangling tea bag into his mouth >> >> -Oliver >> >> Brendan wrote: >>> Is it just me, or does anyone else get a mental impression of insecure >>> older white guys paying younger males to draps their nutpurse over their >>> face when they hear the term tea-bagging...? >>> >>> Please tell me it's not just me, my therapist's To Do list is already a >>> yard long ;) >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From dpeace at bigfoot.com Mon May 4 17:02:45 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 22:02:45 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote In-Reply-To: <976E5A15-480B-49C6-9053-DE9925A71D7B@earthlink.net> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09727D@mr-pants.the-lab.local> <014701c9cce1$64cf1290$2e6d37b0$@com> <06790065218C42C79A728AAA214CE640@edweil> <976E5A15-480B-49C6-9053-DE9925A71D7B@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <021d01c9ccfb$ace02c80$06a08580$@com> Nor should you. My respect for you would lessen if you did. Darren Hungerford, UK From: Alexander Smith [mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net] Sent: 04 May 2009 21:56 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Cc: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote I love Queen and I'll never apologize for it. Alex in NYC On May 4, 2009, at 3:07 PM, Karen Weil wrote: Hey -- I only had one of their albums ("The Game") as a pre-teen. ; ) k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren A. Peace To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote And also - us lot here are all within the overarching Killing Joke Venn diagram. However the subsets work, props to anyone who is enthusiastic enough about KJ to have sought out this list, and more to those who contribute. Personally, someone liking Killing Joke is a quality that causes me to overlook all sorts of other peccadilloes, such as liking Queen. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade Sent: 04 May 2009 17:30 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote This is where it all goes wrong & the snobby cliques come to the fore. Brendan is no moron, but he likes the Matrix (as I do too). I also like Seconds, Straw Dogs, The Meaning of Life & Battle Royale. Oh & Brazil. It's interesting to see how groups form & create 'sides'. Especially when members of these groups are supposedly against non-inclusion, prejudice, etc. Yet fundamentally they play exactly the same game... different game-pieces, same game... I'm no better, of course. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 04 May 2009 16:36 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Which was better; a) The Matrix b) Brazil My vote, BRAZIL!!! _____ HotmailR has ever-growing storage! Don't worry about storage limits. Check it out. _____ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpeace at bigfoot.com Mon May 4 17:08:48 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 22:08:48 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote In-Reply-To: References: <989E8D57-6937-44EE-8761-FB3F76E15040@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <022501c9ccfc$84f6ee10$8ee4ca30$@com> Hmm. "River's Edge" is watchable, albeit mainly for Hopper and Ione Skye. "Dangerous Liaisons". Quite liked "The Watcher". I'll also admit to a soft spot for "The Devil's Advocate". "Johnny Mnemonic". One of these is a joke entry, and is among the 50 worst films I have ever seen. What really impresses me about him is that he can't even play an alien convincingly. And his band was shit too. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexander Smith Sent: 04 May 2009 20:13 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote With the arguable exception of "River's Edge," name a single film Keanu Reeves has been in that hasn't sucked a giant one. Alex in NYC On May 4, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Karen Weil wrote: Very good choice, Alex. : ) My feelings about "The Matrix" are pretty similar. k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Alexander Smith To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Never saw "The Matrix" and couldn't give a fuck, so I'm going with "Brazil". Alex in NYC On May 4, 2009, at 11:36 AM, folk devil wrote: Which was better; a) The Matrix b) Brazil My vote, BRAZIL!!! _____ HotmailR has ever-growing storage! Don't worry about storage limits. Check it out. _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpeace at bigfoot.com Mon May 4 17:09:44 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 22:09:44 +0100 Subject: [kj] OT: Google killer In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097281@mr-pants.the-lab.local> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097281@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: <022a01c9ccfc$a6405a70$f2c10f50$@com> You need to work on that Harkonnen double chin, mate. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade Sent: 04 May 2009 20:27 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Google killer :))) -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 04 May 2009 18:27 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Google killer Nice one!! :) _____ Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 17:37:25 +0100 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Google killer * Disclaimer - your brain is a muscle & needs to be used. Using our systems will weaken your brain, in the name of convenience, you idle fucks. Love, The Philistine ;) _____ Windows LiveT: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Karen Weil To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, May 4, 2009 11:20:58 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Nice suggestion, jo -- almost Swiftian in its proposal. However, I doubt anyone would be interested in what would be left of me. I figure the coyotes and vultures can do their job, as nature intended them to. ; ) But I do love your recipe. Bon appetite, k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: jo To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Shan't be needing the undertaker, can't let things go to waste:-) I suggest BBQ'd body parts (feel free to bring your own) accompanied by freshly foraged wild mushrooms, cresses and garlic served with spicy, jellied stomach contents (again, feel free to bring your own). Dessert will be my own take on a Rum Baba - I called it my 'Sweet Steaming Floater' Oh, dear. We're in bigger trouble than I thought. ; ) I'll ready the undertaker ... k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren A. Peace To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Mexican pork. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: 01 May 2009 23:17 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead What's on the menu? ; ) kw. ----- Original Message ----- From: jo To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I'll take you up on that if he doesn't! Fuck this shit... We're all going to dinner at Folk's house and fix his PC. 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URL: From folk.devil at hotmail.com Mon May 4 17:32:52 2009 From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 14:32:52 -0700 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <34437.95974.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: rv.hcvlny.cv.net><003b01c9caa5$98405fa0$0600000a@jo><04a501c9caaf$dbfbf560$93f3e020$@com> <014201c9cabf$3e694360$0600000a@jo> <3B47200781E4412F96CDA18F38A840FF@edweil> <34437.95974.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: We gave a friend's pet rat a viking funeral, a few years back. We made him a little boat, tied the little feller on it, over some kindling, and pushed him out onto the river that went through the park, alight. :) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 13:04:22 -0700 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Btw, hasn't every guy at some point said he wants to have a viking ship funeral with the flames and stuff...? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' From: Karen Weil To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, May 4, 2009 11:20:58 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Nice suggestion, jo -- almost Swiftian in its proposal. However, I doubt anyone would be interested in what would be left of me. I figure the coyotes and vultures can do their job, as nature intended them to. ; ) But I do love your recipe. Bon appetite, k.w. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail? goes with you. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Mobile1_052009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: melinda grant To: thegathering mailing list Sent: Monday, May 4, 2009 10:01:19 AM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote having never seen-brazil--i say matrix have dvd boxset ;) milindafgrant From: folk.devil at hotmail.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 08:36:28 -0700 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Which was better; a) The Matrix b) Brazil My vote, BRAZIL!!! Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. Check it out. Windows Live Messenger just got better. Find out more! _________________________________________________________________ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos ? Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: melinda grant To: thegathering mailing list Sent: Monday, May 4, 2009 10:01:19 AM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote having never seen-brazil--i say matrix have dvd boxset ;) milindafgrant From: folk.devil at hotmail.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 08:36:28 -0700 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Which was better; a) The Matrix b) Brazil My vote, BRAZIL!!! Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. Check it out. Windows Live Messenger just got better. Find out more! _________________________________________________________________ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos ? Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Mon May 4 17:45:19 2009 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 22:45:19 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097288@mr-pants.the-lab.local> > Another concern I have with your logic is that the only way to avoid this situation, under your terms, would be for everyone to share the same tastes and enthusiasms. Doubtless enforceably. And there we have it. My strict enforcement of an ideology is going to create an opposing force ('cos everyone's different & there's no one-size-fits-all system). Have you heard all the media-talk about Thatcher in a positive light recently? Of course, if the debate had been about 'Four Weddings & a Funeral' you wouldn't've heard a peep out of me, except for calls for the burning of all cast members, production crew & anyone involved in the making of that cock-puss. Crucify the caterers for obvious reasons. We're all hypocrites. I want my cake & eat it, dammit! (*stamps foot*) I might switch the cuke with one of those butternut squash things, they're impressive. Should the hanky be in the right or left back pocket? -----Original Message----- From: Darren A. Peace [mailto:dpeace at bigfoot.com] Sent: 04 May 2009 21:43 To: ade; dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: RE: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Another concern I have with your logic is that the only way to avoid this situation, under your terms, would be for everyone to share the same tastes and enthusiasms. Doubtless enforceably. I like the black jelly babies best, and despise the green ones. Honest truth. We must arrange a jelly-baby exchange program. And with regard to your chosen uniform for Wednesday, the cucumber in particular will make you very popular with the regular clientele of the venue. Might I suggest Sir sports a red handkerchief hanging out of his back pocket? Darren Hungerford, UK From: ade [mailto:ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk] Sent: 04 May 2009 20:40 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: RE: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Yes, fair comment, I'm simply picking out the processes from behind an evaluation & ignoring context. By my logic, I should be hung for preferring green jelly babies from all the other colours. Worse still, I can't stand the black ones. Is that supposed to be blackcurrant flavour? Fucking horrible. But it is interesting to see how many simple processes (primitives) are lumped together into 'macros' in the brain, tiny parts being re-used over & over again in very different (or not) situations. I have to make a coding reference as that clicks for me. I'll be wearing my Queen t-shirt Wednesday, replete with Brian May wig & Derek Smalls cucumber. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 04 May 2009 18:55 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote And also - us lot here are all within the overarching Killing Joke Venn diagram. However the subsets work, props to anyone who is enthusiastic enough about KJ to have sought out this list, and more to those who contribute. Personally, someone liking Killing Joke is a quality that causes me to overlook all sorts of other peccadilloes, such as liking Queen. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade Sent: 04 May 2009 17:30 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote This is where it all goes wrong & the snobby cliques come to the fore. Brendan is no moron, but he likes the Matrix (as I do too). I also like Seconds, Straw Dogs, The Meaning of Life & Battle Royale. Oh & Brazil. It's interesting to see how groups form & create 'sides'. Especially when members of these groups are supposedly against non-inclusion, prejudice, etc. Yet fundamentally they play exactly the same game... different game-pieces, same game... I'm no better, of course. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 04 May 2009 16:36 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Which was better; a) The Matrix b) Brazil My vote, BRAZIL!!! _____ Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don't worry about storage limits. Check it out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From heiferboy at robinsonworld.freeserve.co.uk Mon May 4 17:48:12 2009 From: heiferboy at robinsonworld.freeserve.co.uk (Stephen Robinson) Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 22:48:12 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097287@mr-pants.the-lab.local> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097287@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: <3af331a027c.e9196da@smtp.freeserve.com> Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey. Note that is not a joke, I honstly thought it was a good comedy. > Johnny Mnemonic. Ahem. > > -----Original Message----- > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Alexander Smith Sent: > 04 May 2009 20:13 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote > > > > With the arguable exception of "River's Edge," name a single film Keanu > Reeves has been in that hasn't sucked a giant one. > > Alex in NYC > > > On May 4, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Karen Weil wrote: From daxford at rogers.com Mon May 4 17:51:28 2009 From: daxford at rogers.com (Dave Axford) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 17:51:28 -0400 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097287@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: <3415AD7ACCAD4D329018C06070C5950B@dave> Johnny Mnemonic. Ahem. You think watching the film sucked? Ha! Try working on it! A giant cluster fuck all round... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Peace To: 'ade' ; dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk ; 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Another concern I have with your logic is that the only way to avoid this situation, under your terms, would be for everyone to share the same tastes and enthusiasms. Doubtless enforceably. I like the black jelly babies best, and despise the green ones. Honest truth. We must arrange a jelly-baby exchange program. And with regard to your chosen uniform for Wednesday, the cucumber in particular will make you very popular with the regular clientele of the venue. Might I suggest Sir sports a red handkerchief hanging out of his back pocket? Darren Hungerford, UK From: ade [mailto:ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk] Sent: 04 May 2009 20:40 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: RE: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Yes, fair comment, I'm simply picking out the processes from behind an evaluation & ignoring context. By my logic, I should be hung for preferring green jelly babies from all the other colours. Worse still, I can't stand the black ones. Is that supposed to be blackcurrant flavour? Fucking horrible. But it is interesting to see how many simple processes (primitives) are lumped together into 'macros' in the brain, tiny parts being re-used over & over again in very different (or not) situations. I have to make a coding reference as that clicks for me. I'll be wearing my Queen t-shirt Wednesday, replete with Brian May wig & Derek Smalls cucumber. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 04 May 2009 18:55 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote And also - us lot here are all within the overarching Killing Joke Venn diagram. However the subsets work, props to anyone who is enthusiastic enough about KJ to have sought out this list, and more to those who contribute. Personally, someone liking Killing Joke is a quality that causes me to overlook all sorts of other peccadilloes, such as liking Queen. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade Sent: 04 May 2009 17:30 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote This is where it all goes wrong & the snobby cliques come to the fore. Brendan is no moron, but he likes the Matrix (as I do too). I also like Seconds, Straw Dogs, The Meaning of Life & Battle Royale. Oh & Brazil. It's interesting to see how groups form & create 'sides'. Especially when members of these groups are supposedly against non-inclusion, prejudice, etc. Yet fundamentally they play exactly the same game... different game-pieces, same game... I'm no better, of course. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 04 May 2009 16:36 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Which was better; a) The Matrix b) Brazil My vote, BRAZIL!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don't worry about storage limits. Check it out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Mon May 4 18:05:43 2009 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 23:05:43 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09728A@mr-pants.the-lab.local> It's a killer to pass on Cookiemonster, I've always loved the way he goes fucking mental. I'll go as either Bert or Ern - total comedy heroes!!! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: 04 May 2009 21:45 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead It's Oscar for me because ... "I Love Trash!" Don't forget, ade: Bert, Ernie and Snuffleupagus are still available, and the wardrobe is better -- at least for Bert and Ernie. ; ) kw San Diego ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Double dammit!!!! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: 04 May 2009 18:28 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead No, Darren -- I think the Cookie Monster outfit will better suit you. ; ) When I'm out and about, I personally prefer Oscar the Grouch. k.w. the States ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren A. Peace To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Since I can't call this eve, I shall confirm here. Intrepid Fox at 6 on Wednesday for ticket business and beverages. I'll be wearing the Big Bird suit. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence Sent: 03 May 2009 21:02 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead good call ''blood /stains/pleasure ''...ring me bonus credit expires midnight or can you confirm here INTREPID FOX at 6 pm _____ From: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 20:18:13 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Break. Darren Hungerford, UK On 3 May 2009, at 20:03, "Steve Hackett" < thepunisher at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: The Tenant was my favourite track... ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk ; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Yeah, but the first one was good eh. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 03 May 2009 16:53 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub-Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. "Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing" doesn't begin to address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. Bullet time indeed. It's this sort of filmic tripe that makes me reach for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear to touch it again. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I still haven't figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect...load of waffle if you ask me. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man... Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a "successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' _____ From: Brendan Quinn < bq at soundgardener.co.nz> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) < gathering at misera.net> Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man... _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. _____ Windows Live(tm) Hotmail?:...more than just e-mail. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.13/2091 - Release Date: 05/02/09 14:23:00 _____ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____ Surfing the web just got more rewarding. Download the New Internet Explorer 8 _____ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vassifer at earthlink.net Mon May 4 18:19:30 2009 From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alexander Smith) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 18:19:30 -0400 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097287@mr-pants.the-lab.local> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097287@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: <39B62B0A-4CE1-46A3-A014-6C3AB25A0A71@earthlink.net> You're defending that? Alex in NYC On May 4, 2009, at 4:22 PM, ade wrote: > Johnny Mnemonic. Ahem. > -----Original Message----- > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net > ]On Behalf Of Alexander Smith > Sent: 04 May 2009 20:13 > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote > > > With the arguable exception of "River's Edge," name a single film > Keanu Reeves has been in that hasn't sucked a giant one. > > Alex in NYC > > > On May 4, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Karen Weil wrote: > >> Very good choice, Alex. : ) My feelings about "The Matrix" are >> pretty similar. >> >> >> k.w. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Alexander Smith >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) >> Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 9:51 AM >> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote >> >> >> Never saw "The Matrix" and couldn't give a fuck, so I'm going with >> "Brazil". >> >> Alex in NYC >> >> >> >> On May 4, 2009, at 11:36 AM, folk devil wrote: >> >>> Which was better; >>> a) The Matrix >>> b) Brazil >>> >>> My vote, BRAZIL!!! >>> >>> >>> Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! 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URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Mon May 4 18:20:25 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 15:20:25 -0700 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09727D@mr-pants.the-lab.local><014701c9cce1$64cf1290$2e6d37b0$@com><06790065218C42C79A728AAA214CE640@edweil> <976E5A15-480B-49C6-9053-DE9925A71D7B@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <5B07B317885C416289401B5FAAB50B6D@edweil> No need to, Alex. I was just being my usual snarky self (in response to Mr. Peace). ; ) Cheers, k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Alexander Smith To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote I love Queen and I'll never apologize for it. Alex in NYC On May 4, 2009, at 3:07 PM, Karen Weil wrote: Hey -- I only had one of their albums ("The Game") as a pre-teen. ; ) k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren A. Peace To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote And also ? us lot here are all within the overarching Killing Joke Venn diagram. However the subsets work, props to anyone who is enthusiastic enough about KJ to have sought out this list, and more to those who contribute. Personally, someone liking Killing Joke is a quality that causes me to overlook all sorts of other peccadilloes, such as liking Queen. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade Sent: 04 May 2009 17:30 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote This is where it all goes wrong & the snobby cliques come to the fore. Brendan is no moron, but he likes the Matrix (as I do too). I also like Seconds, Straw Dogs, The Meaning of Life & Battle Royale. Oh & Brazil. It's interesting to see how groups form & create 'sides'. Especially when members of these groups are supposedly against non-inclusion, prejudice, etc. Yet fundamentally they play exactly the same game... different game-pieces, same game... I'm no better, of course. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 04 May 2009 16:36 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Which was better; a) The Matrix b) Brazil My vote, BRAZIL!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. 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URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Mon May 4 18:23:36 2009 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 23:23:36 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09728B@mr-pants.the-lab.local> It's alright Alex, I think he meant he likes queens. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Alexander Smith Sent: 04 May 2009 21:56 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote I love Queen and I'll never apologize for it. Alex in NYC On May 4, 2009, at 3:07 PM, Karen Weil wrote: Hey -- I only had one of their albums ("The Game") as a pre-teen. ; ) k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren A. Peace To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote And also ? us lot here are all within the overarching Killing Joke Venn diagram. However the subsets work, props to anyone who is enthusiastic enough about KJ to have sought out this list, and more to those who contribute. Personally, someone liking Killing Joke is a quality that causes me to overlook all sorts of other peccadilloes, such as liking Queen. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade Sent: 04 May 2009 17:30 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote This is where it all goes wrong & the snobby cliques come to the fore. Brendan is no moron, but he likes the Matrix (as I do too). I also like Seconds, Straw Dogs, The Meaning of Life & Battle Royale. Oh & Brazil. It's interesting to see how groups form & create 'sides'. Especially when members of these groups are supposedly against non-inclusion, prejudice, etc. Yet fundamentally they play exactly the same game... different game-pieces, same game... I'm no better, of course. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 04 May 2009 16:36 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Which was better; a) The Matrix b) Brazil My vote, BRAZIL!!! _____ Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. Check it out. _____ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com Mon May 4 18:34:16 2009 From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 23:34:16 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote In-Reply-To: <021d01c9ccfb$ace02c80$06a08580$@com> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09727D@mr-pants.the-lab.local> <014701c9cce1$64cf1290$2e6d37b0$@com> <06790065218C42C79A728AAA214CE640@edweil> <976E5A15-480B-49C6-9053-DE9925A71D7B@earthlink.net> <021d01c9ccfb$ace02c80$06a08580$@com> Message-ID: i cashed in all my post office savings back in 1975 to purchase -a night at the opera and queen 2,my dad went bilistic lol,it was well worth the bollocking i got ;) milindafgrant From: dpeace at bigfoot.com To: vassifer at earthlink.net; gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 22:02:45 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Nor should you. My respect for you would lessen if you did. Darren Hungerford, UK From: Alexander Smith [mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net] Sent: 04 May 2009 21:56 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Cc: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote I love Queen and I'll never apologize for it. Alex in NYC On May 4, 2009, at 3:07 PM, Karen Weil wrote: Hey -- I only had one of their albums ("The Game") as a pre-teen. ; ) k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren A. Peace To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote And also ? us lot here are all within the overarching Killing Joke Venn diagram. However the subsets work, props to anyone who is enthusiastic enough about KJ to have sought out this list, and more to those who contribute. Personally, someone liking Killing Joke is a quality that causes me to overlook all sorts of other peccadilloes, such as liking Queen. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade Sent: 04 May 2009 17:30 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote This is where it all goes wrong & the snobby cliques come to the fore. Brendan is no moron, but he likes the Matrix (as I do too). I also like Seconds, Straw Dogs, The Meaning of Life & Battle Royale. Oh & Brazil. It's interesting to see how groups form & create 'sides'. Especially when members of these groups are supposedly against non-inclusion, prejudice, etc. Yet fundamentally they play exactly the same game... different game-pieces, same game... I'm no better, of course. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 04 May 2009 16:36 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Which was better; a) The Matrix b) Brazil My vote, BRAZIL!!! 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Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The setlist will be "Implant, " Afterburner, Seeing Red,? Are You Receiving, Blood On Your Hands, Asteroid,? Inside the "Termite Mound", Follow The Breeders,? Gay Tease, Come As You Are, Another Bloody Erection,? Beautiful Head, Slipscream, Dominator, Hung & Dance, Butchie, ?Wilful Gaze, My Love Of This Man, Chapped Her "Tree", The Panzys are Coming, ? encore: The Hummer, Dorkness Before Brawn, Another Grunt Goes Down, Who Taught You How?, ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things..] ? 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? ________________________________ From: Darren A. Peace To: ade ; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2009 6:42:27 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go as an old woman up a stick. ? Are you coming to the Heaven gayfest, then? ? Darren Hungerford, UK ? From:ade [mailto:ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk] Sent: 04 May 2009 01:01 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: RE: [kj] Play dead ? > I?ll be wearing the Big Bird suit. ? Dammit. Back to the drawing board.. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 04 May 2009 00:53 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Since I can?t call this eve, I shall confirm here. Intrepid Fox at 6 on Wednesday for ticket business and beverages. ? I?ll be wearing the Big Bird suit. ? Darren Hungerford, UK ? From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence Sent: 03 May 2009 21:02 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead ? good call ''blood /stains/pleasure ''...ring me bonus credit expires midnight or can you confirm here INTREPID FOX at 6 pm ? ________________________________ From: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 20:18:13 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Break. ? Darren Hungerford, UK On 3 May 2009, at 20:03, "Steve Hackett" wrote: The Tenant was my favourite track... ----- Original Message ----- From:ade To:dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk ; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent:Sunday, May 03, 2009 7:41 PM Subject:Re: [kj] Play dead ? Yeah, but the first one was good eh. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 03 May 2009 16:53 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub-Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. ? ?Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing? doesn?t begin to address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. ? Bullet time indeed. It?s this sort of filmic tripe that makes me reach for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. ? And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear to touch it again. ? Darren Hungerford, UK ? From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead ? I still haven?t figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect?load of waffle if you ask me. ? ________________________________ From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead ? > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? ? Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a?"successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg? (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ? ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things..] ? 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? ? ? ? ________________________________ From:Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? ? ________________________________ From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead ? iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows,?still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing?the delta 1010, with the original s/c?no longer on the drive. 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Download the New Internet Explorer 8 ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Mon May 4 18:40:17 2009 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 23:40:17 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09728E@mr-pants.the-lab.local> You watch Bill & Teds most nights. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 04 May 2009 22:09 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Hmm. "River's Edge" is watchable, albeit mainly for Hopper and Ione Skye. "Dangerous Liaisons". Quite liked "The Watcher". I'll also admit to a soft spot for "The Devil's Advocate". "Johnny Mnemonic". One of these is a joke entry, and is among the 50 worst films I have ever seen. What really impresses me about him is that he can't even play an alien convincingly. And his band was shit too. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexander Smith Sent: 04 May 2009 20:13 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote With the arguable exception of "River's Edge," name a single film Keanu Reeves has been in that hasn't sucked a giant one. Alex in NYC On May 4, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Karen Weil wrote: Very good choice, Alex. : ) My feelings about "The Matrix" are pretty similar. k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Alexander Smith To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Never saw "The Matrix" and couldn't give a fuck, so I'm going with "Brazil". Alex in NYC On May 4, 2009, at 11:36 AM, folk devil wrote: Which was better; a) The Matrix b) Brazil My vote, BRAZIL!!! _____ Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don't worry about storage limits. Check it out._______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Mon May 4 18:41:38 2009 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 23:41:38 +0100 Subject: [kj] OT: Google killer Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09728F@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Man, I *love* the books. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 04 May 2009 22:10 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Google killer You need to work on that Harkonnen double chin, mate. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade Sent: 04 May 2009 20:27 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Google killer :))) -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 04 May 2009 18:27 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Google killer Nice one!! :) _____ Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 17:37:25 +0100 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Google killer * Disclaimer - your brain is a muscle & needs to be used. Using our systems will weaken your brain, in the name of convenience, you idle fucks. Love, The Philistine ;) _____ Windows Live(tm): Keep your life in sync. Check it out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From saulomar1 at yahoo.com Mon May 4 18:46:13 2009 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 15:46:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] OT: Google killer In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09727F@mr-pants.the-lab.local> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09727F@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: <748680.75088.qm@web110205.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> > Is this the future technology offers us? USE YOUR BRAIN EVEN LESS* ?? I personally welcome every dialog box and options menu that pops up on my computer asking me to make a decision. I made a decision a long time ago?that I'd rather have to do a few more things 'by hand' on my computer than to automate everything on it?and forget how to do anything, not even a goddamn thing.It beats feeling like you can't do shit to save your (online) life. ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things..] ? 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? ________________________________ From: ade To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, May 4, 2009 9:37:25 AM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Google killer Next step is?spot-on - it's certainly not the revolution the hypers are touting it as. "tell me if the Golden gate bridge is as long as Everest is tall". Wow - I think I'll work it out manually by searching for the length of the bridge, the height of the mountain & doing a sum. ? Is this the future technology offers us? USE YOUR BRAIN EVEN LESS* ? ? * Disclaimer - your brain is a muscle & needs to be used. Using our systems will weaken your brain, in the name of convenience, you idle fucks. ? ? Love, ? The Philistine ;) -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 04 May 2009 13:02 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: [kj] OT: Google killer The next step in search technology and a workable human / AI interface: ? http://www.nzherald.co.nz/technology/news/article.cfm?c_id=5&objectid=10570271 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vassifer at earthlink.net Mon May 4 18:59:29 2009 From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alexander Smith) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 18:59:29 -0400 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote In-Reply-To: <022501c9ccfc$84f6ee10$8ee4ca30$@com> References: <989E8D57-6937-44EE-8761-FB3F76E15040@earthlink.net> <022501c9ccfc$84f6ee10$8ee4ca30$@com> Message-ID: <328DCE13-BC88-41DF-AEAD-86E155D49442@earthlink.net> INARGUABLY the best thing about "River's Edge" is one Crispin Helion Glover. Alex in NYC On May 4, 2009, at 5:08 PM, Darren A. Peace wrote: > Hmm. > > ?River?s Edge? is watchable, albeit mainly for Hopper and Ione Skye. > > ?Dangerous Liaisons?. > > Quite liked ?The Watcher?. > > I?ll also admit to a soft spot for ?The Devil?s Advocate?. > > ?Johnny Mnemonic?. > > One of these is a joke entry, and is among the 50 worst films I have > ever seen. > > What really impresses me about him is that he can?t even play an > alien convincingly. And his band was shit too. > > Darren > Hungerford, UK > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net > ] On Behalf Of Alexander Smith > Sent: 04 May 2009 20:13 > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote > > > With the arguable exception of "River's Edge," name a single film > Keanu Reeves has been in that hasn't sucked a giant one. > > Alex in NYC > > > On May 4, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Karen Weil wrote: > > > Very good choice, Alex. : ) My feelings about "The Matrix" are > pretty similar. > > > k.w. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Alexander Smith > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 9:51 AM > Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote > > > Never saw "The Matrix" and couldn't give a fuck, so I'm going with > "Brazil". > > Alex in NYC > > > > On May 4, 2009, at 11:36 AM, folk devil wrote: > > > Which was better; > a) The Matrix > b) Brazil > > My vote, BRAZIL!!! > > Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! 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URL: From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Mon May 4 19:10:36 2009 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan Quinn) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 09:10:36 +1000 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I haven't seen it either, in fact not sure I've even heard of it :-) Let's see what I can find. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: Tuesday, 5 May 2009 04:11 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote *Gasp,* Milinda -- we must get you schooled! "Brazil" is a masterpiece, period. Rent it, please. You will not be sorry. : ) k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: melinda grant To: thegathering mailing list Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote having never seen-brazil--i say matrix have dvd boxset ;) milindafgrant _____ From: folk.devil at hotmail.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 08:36:28 -0700 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Which was better; a) The Matrix b) Brazil My vote, BRAZIL!!! _____ HotmailR has ever-growing storage! Don't worry about storage limits. Check it out. _____ Windows Live Messenger just got better. Find out more! _____ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.18/2096 - Release Date: 05/04/09 17:51:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Mon May 4 19:14:18 2009 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 00:14:18 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097293@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Playing Battleships with the Reaper for their lives - awesome. But then I pissed myself at Dodgeball last night. "Go Balls Deep!" -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Stephen Robinson Sent: 04 May 2009 22:48 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (t Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey. Note that is not a joke, I honstly thought it was a good comedy. > Johnny Mnemonic. Ahem. > > -----Original Message----- > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Alexander Smith Sent: > 04 May 2009 20:13 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote > > > > With the arguable exception of "River's Edge," name a single film Keanu > Reeves has been in that hasn't sucked a giant one. > > Alex in NYC > > > On May 4, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Karen Weil wrote: _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From dpeace at bigfoot.com Mon May 4 19:30:41 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 00:30:41 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote In-Reply-To: <328DCE13-BC88-41DF-AEAD-86E155D49442@earthlink.net> References: <989E8D57-6937-44EE-8761-FB3F76E15040@earthlink.net> <022501c9ccfc$84f6ee10$8ee4ca30$@com> <328DCE13-BC88-41DF-AEAD-86E155D49442@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <02ce01c9cd10$572b5c00$05821400$@com> INARGUABLY is a dangerous word to use with me, as you've probably already gathered. However, I'll demur as I'm too busy; however, I will say that his Letterman appearance promoting the film would have been more interesting had the kick connected. He also reminds me of PeeWee Herman, which is not a good thing. Darren Hungerford, UK From: Alexander Smith [mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net] Sent: 04 May 2009 23:59 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote INARGUABLY the best thing about "River's Edge" is one Crispin Helion Glover. Alex in NYC On May 4, 2009, at 5:08 PM, Darren A. Peace wrote: Hmm. "River's Edge" is watchable, albeit mainly for Hopper and Ione Skye. "Dangerous Liaisons". Quite liked "The Watcher". I'll also admit to a soft spot for "The Devil's Advocate". "Johnny Mnemonic". One of these is a joke entry, and is among the 50 worst films I have ever seen. What really impresses me about him is that he can't even play an alien convincingly. And his band was shit too. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexander Smith Sent: 04 May 2009 20:13 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote With the arguable exception of "River's Edge," name a single film Keanu Reeves has been in that hasn't sucked a giant one. Alex in NYC On May 4, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Karen Weil wrote: Very good choice, Alex. : ) My feelings about "The Matrix" are pretty similar. k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Alexander Smith To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Never saw "The Matrix" and couldn't give a fuck, so I'm going with "Brazil". Alex in NYC On May 4, 2009, at 11:36 AM, folk devil wrote: Which was better; a) The Matrix b) Brazil My vote, BRAZIL!!! _____ HotmailR has ever-growing storage! Don't worry about storage limits. Check it out. _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpeace at bigfoot.com Mon May 4 19:31:21 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 00:31:21 +0100 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: References: rv.hcvlny.cv.net><003b01c9caa5$98405fa0$0600000a@jo><04a501c9caaf$dbfbf560$93f3e020$@com> <014201c9cabf$3e694360$0600000a@jo> <3B47200781E4412F96CDA18F38A840FF@edweil> <34437.95974.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <02d301c9cd10$6efa7b90$4cef72b0$@com> Was he dead? Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 04 May 2009 22:33 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead We gave a friend's pet rat a viking funeral, a few years back. We made him a little boat, tied the little feller on it, over some kindling, and pushed him out onto the river that went through the park, alight. :) _____ Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 13:04:22 -0700 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Btw, hasn't every guy at some point said he wants to have a viking ship funeral with the flames and stuff...? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' _____ From: Karen Weil To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, May 4, 2009 11:20:58 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Nice suggestion, jo -- almost Swiftian in its proposal. However, I doubt anyone would be interested in what would be left of me. I figure the coyotes and vultures can do their job, as nature intended them to. ; ) But I do love your recipe. Bon appetite, k.w. _____ HotmailR goes with you. 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URL: From stephen.l at live.com Mon May 4 19:40:53 2009 From: stephen.l at live.com (Stephen Lawrence) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 23:40:53 +0000 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097282@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: karen you left out SWEETUMS !!!!! From: karen.weil at sddt.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 13:45:00 -0700 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead It's Oscar for me because ... "I Love Trash!" Don't forget, ade: Bert, Ernie and Snuffleupagus are still available, and the wardrobe is better -- at least for Bert and Ernie. ; ) kw San Diego ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Double dammit!!!! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: 04 May 2009 18:28 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead No, Darren -- I think the Cookie Monster outfit will better suit you. ; ) When I'm out and about, I personally prefer Oscar the Grouch. k.w. the States ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren A. Peace To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Since I can't call this eve, I shall confirm here. Intrepid Fox at 6 on Wednesday for ticket business and beverages. I'll be wearing the Big Bird suit. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence Sent: 03 May 2009 21:02 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead good call ''blood /stains/pleasure ''...ring me bonus credit expires midnight or can you confirm here INTREPID FOX at 6 pm From: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 20:18:13 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Break. Darren Hungerford, UK On 3 May 2009, at 20:03, "Steve Hackett" wrote: The Tenant was my favourite track... ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk ; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Yeah, but the first one was good eh. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 03 May 2009 16:53 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub-Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. "Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing" doesn't begin to address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. Bullet time indeed. It's this sort of filmic tripe that makes me reach for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear to touch it again. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I still haven't figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect...load of waffle if you ask me. From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man... Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a "successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man... From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[ Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session. Windows Live(tm) Hotmail?:...more than just e-mail. Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. 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Otherwise, it's complete indefensible crap (in my opinion). Alex in NYC On May 4, 2009, at 5:51 PM, Bo Krogsgaard wrote: > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 9:22 PM, ade wrote: > >> Johnny Mnemonic. Ahem. > > A movie totally void of any acting skills, except for Takeshi Kitano, > who is always extremely cool, even when he's not. > > > b > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From vassifer at earthlink.net Mon May 4 19:53:55 2009 From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alexander Smith) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 19:53:55 -0400 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote In-Reply-To: <02ce01c9cd10$572b5c00$05821400$@com> References: <989E8D57-6937-44EE-8761-FB3F76E15040@earthlink.net> <022501c9ccfc$84f6ee10$8ee4ca30$@com> <328DCE13-BC88-41DF-AEAD-86E155D49442@earthlink.net> <02ce01c9cd10$572b5c00$05821400$@com> Message-ID: He's a genius. Alex in NYC On May 4, 2009, at 7:30 PM, Darren A. Peace wrote: > INARGUABLY is a dangerous word to use with me, as you?ve probably > already gathered. > > However, I?ll demur as I?m too busy; however, I will say that his > Letterman appearance promoting the film would have been more > interesting had the kick connected. He also reminds me of PeeWee > Herman, which is not a good thing. > > Darren > Hungerford, UK > > From: Alexander Smith [mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net] > Sent: 04 May 2009 23:59 > To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing > Joke (the band!) > Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote > > > INARGUABLY the best thing about "River's Edge" is one Crispin Helion > Glover. > > Alex in NYC > > > > On May 4, 2009, at 5:08 PM, Darren A. Peace wrote: > > > Hmm. > > ?River?s Edge? is watchable, albeit mainly for Hopper and Ione Skye. > > ?Dangerous Liaisons?. > > Quite liked ?The Watcher?. > > I?ll also admit to a soft spot for ?The Devil?s Advocate?. > > ?Johnny Mnemonic?. > > One of these is a joke entry, and is among the 50 worst films I have > ever seen. > > What really impresses me about him is that he can?t even play an > alien convincingly. And his band was shit too. > > Darren > Hungerford, UK > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net > ] On Behalf Of Alexander Smith > Sent: 04 May 2009 20:13 > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote > > > With the arguable exception of "River's Edge," name a single film > Keanu Reeves has been in that hasn't sucked a giant one. > > Alex in NYC > > > On May 4, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Karen Weil wrote: > > > > Very good choice, Alex. : ) My feelings about "The Matrix" are > pretty similar. > > > k.w. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Alexander Smith > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 9:51 AM > Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote > > > Never saw "The Matrix" and couldn't give a fuck, so I'm going with > "Brazil". > > Alex in NYC > > > > On May 4, 2009, at 11:36 AM, folk devil wrote: > > > > Which was better; > a) The Matrix > b) Brazil > > My vote, BRAZIL!!! > > Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! 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You will not be sorry. : ) k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: melinda grant To: thegathering mailing list Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote having never seen-brazil--i say matrix have dvd boxset ;) milindafgrant ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: folk.devil at hotmail.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 08:36:28 -0700 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Which was better; a) The Matrix b) Brazil My vote, BRAZIL!!! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. Check it out. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Windows Live Messenger just got better. 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URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Mon May 4 19:56:35 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 16:56:35 -0700 Subject: [kj] Play dead References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09728A@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: <7502841EF5FF4EA6AF9550F8B9EF6AC0@edweil> Cookie Monster was *the* original anger management patient. If you go as Ernie, be sure to have the unibrow perfected -- and act bipolar while you're at it. Cheers, Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead It's a killer to pass on Cookiemonster, I've always loved the way he goes fucking mental. I'll go as either Bert or Ern - total comedy heroes!!! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: 04 May 2009 21:45 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead It's Oscar for me because ... "I Love Trash!" Don't forget, ade: Bert, Ernie and Snuffleupagus are still available, and the wardrobe is better -- at least for Bert and Ernie. ; ) kw San Diego ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Double dammit!!!! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: 04 May 2009 18:28 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead No, Darren -- I think the Cookie Monster outfit will better suit you. ; ) When I'm out and about, I personally prefer Oscar the Grouch. k.w. the States ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren A. Peace To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Since I can't call this eve, I shall confirm here. Intrepid Fox at 6 on Wednesday for ticket business and beverages. I'll be wearing the Big Bird suit. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence Sent: 03 May 2009 21:02 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead good call ''blood /stains/pleasure ''...ring me bonus credit expires midnight or can you confirm here INTREPID FOX at 6 pm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 20:18:13 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Break. Darren Hungerford, UK On 3 May 2009, at 20:03, "Steve Hackett" wrote: The Tenant was my favourite track... ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk ; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Yeah, but the first one was good eh. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 03 May 2009 16:53 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub-Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. "Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing" doesn't begin to address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. Bullet time indeed. It's this sort of filmic tripe that makes me reach for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear to touch it again. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I still haven't figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect...load of waffle if you ask me. ---------------------------------------------------------------- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man... Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a "successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' ---------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man... ---------------------------------------------------------------- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! 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URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Mon May 4 19:59:19 2009 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 16:59:19 -0700 Subject: [kj] Play dead References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097275@mr-pants.the-lab.local><009b01c9cc59$960dc410$c2294c30$@com><564738.37555.qm@web110202.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <943603.26895.qm@web110202.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2A53DE1B38374FD181EB196B575D1A89@edweil> Nice comeback, sade1. : ) k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: sade1 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > I'd better call Focus on the Family Why, do they want a guestlist? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Karen Weil To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, May 4, 2009 11:14:51 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead ? Uh-oh, I'd better call Focus on the Family. ; ) k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: sade1 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk ; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The setlist will be "Implant, " Afterburner, Seeing Red, Are You Receiving, Blood On Your Hands, Asteroid, Inside the "Termite Mound", Follow The Breeders, Gay Tease, Come As You Are, Another Bloody Erection, Beautiful Head, Slipscream, Dominator, Hung & Dance, Butchie, Wilful Gaze, My Love Of This Man, Chapped Her "Tree", The Panzys are Coming, encore: The Hummer, Dorkness Before Brawn, Another Grunt Goes Down, Who Taught You How?, ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darren A. Peace To: ade ; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2009 6:42:27 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go as an old woman up a stick. Are you coming to the Heaven gayfest, then? Darren Hungerford, UK From: ade [mailto:ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk] Sent: 04 May 2009 01:01 To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: RE: [kj] Play dead > I?ll be wearing the Big Bird suit. Dammit. Back to the drawing board.. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 04 May 2009 00:53 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Since I can?t call this eve, I shall confirm here. Intrepid Fox at 6 on Wednesday for ticket business and beverages. I?ll be wearing the Big Bird suit. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence Sent: 03 May 2009 21:02 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead good call ''blood /stains/pleasure ''...ring me bonus credit expires midnight or can you confirm here INTREPID FOX at 6 pm -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 20:18:13 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Break. Darren Hungerford, UK On 3 May 2009, at 20:03, "Steve Hackett" wrote: The Tenant was my favourite track... ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk ; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Yeah, but the first one was good eh. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 03 May 2009 16:53 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub-Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE. ?Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing? doesn?t begin to address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust. Bullet time indeed. It?s this sort of filmic tripe that makes me reach for the hemlock, and something made before 1950. And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear to touch it again. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead I still haven?t figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect?load of waffle if you ask me. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem like you really are dealing with a "successively harder end-of-level boss"? At one point I'm thinking I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Go into your BIOS and kill it there man? -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone! 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Not so much. k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk ; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Google killer Man, I *love* the books. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 04 May 2009 22:10 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Google killer You need to work on that Harkonnen double chin, mate. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade Sent: 04 May 2009 20:27 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Google killer :))) -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 04 May 2009 18:27 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Google killer Nice one!! :) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 17:37:25 +0100 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Google killer * Disclaimer - your brain is a muscle & needs to be used. Using our systems will weaken your brain, in the name of convenience, you idle fucks. Love, The Philistine ;) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Windows LiveT: Keep your life in sync. 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Cheers, k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: melinda grant To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote i cashed in all my post office savings back in 1975 to purchase -a night at the opera and queen 2,my dad went bilistic lol,it was well worth the bollocking i got ;) milindafgrant ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: dpeace at bigfoot.com To: vassifer at earthlink.net; gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 22:02:45 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Nor should you. My respect for you would lessen if you did. Darren Hungerford, UK From: Alexander Smith [mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net] Sent: 04 May 2009 21:56 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Cc: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote I love Queen and I'll never apologize for it. Alex in NYC On May 4, 2009, at 3:07 PM, Karen Weil wrote: Hey -- I only had one of their albums ("The Game") as a pre-teen. ; ) k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren A. Peace To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote And also ? us lot here are all within the overarching Killing Joke Venn diagram. However the subsets work, props to anyone who is enthusiastic enough about KJ to have sought out this list, and more to those who contribute. Personally, someone liking Killing Joke is a quality that causes me to overlook all sorts of other peccadilloes, such as liking Queen. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade Sent: 04 May 2009 17:30 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote This is where it all goes wrong & the snobby cliques come to the fore. Brendan is no moron, but he likes the Matrix (as I do too). I also like Seconds, Straw Dogs, The Meaning of Life & Battle Royale. Oh & Brazil. It's interesting to see how groups form & create 'sides'. Especially when members of these groups are supposedly against non-inclusion, prejudice, etc. Yet fundamentally they play exactly the same game... different game-pieces, same game... I'm no better, of course. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 04 May 2009 16:36 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Which was better; a) The Matrix b) Brazil My vote, BRAZIL!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. 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URL: From vassifer at earthlink.net Mon May 4 20:10:56 2009 From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alexander Smith) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 20:10:56 -0400 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote In-Reply-To: <328DCE13-BC88-41DF-AEAD-86E155D49442@earthlink.net> References: <989E8D57-6937-44EE-8761-FB3F76E15040@earthlink.net> <022501c9ccfc$84f6ee10$8ee4ca30$@com> <328DCE13-BC88-41DF-AEAD-86E155D49442@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4A562F8C-CC7A-402F-9F36-2C898EC0ABC9@earthlink.net> Is it me, or is every message repeating?? Alex in NYC On May 4, 2009, at 6:59 PM, Alexander Smith wrote: > > INARGUABLY the best thing about "River's Edge" is one Crispin Helion > Glover. > > Alex in NYC > > > > On May 4, 2009, at 5:08 PM, Darren A. Peace wrote: > >> Hmm. >> >> ?River?s Edge? is watchable, albeit mainly for Hopper and Ione Skye. >> >> ?Dangerous Liaisons?. >> >> Quite liked ?The Watcher?. >> >> I?ll also admit to a soft spot for ?The Devil?s Advocate?. >> >> ?Johnny Mnemonic?. >> >> One of these is a joke entry, and is among the 50 worst films I >> have ever seen. >> >> What really impresses me about him is that he can?t even play an >> alien convincingly. And his band was shit too. >> >> Darren >> Hungerford, UK >> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net >> ] On Behalf Of Alexander Smith >> Sent: 04 May 2009 20:13 >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) >> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote >> >> >> With the arguable exception of "River's Edge," name a single film >> Keanu Reeves has been in that hasn't sucked a giant one. >> >> Alex in NYC >> >> >> On May 4, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Karen Weil wrote: >> >> >> Very good choice, Alex. : ) My feelings about "The Matrix" are >> pretty similar. >> >> >> k.w. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Alexander Smith >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) >> Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 9:51 AM >> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote >> >> >> Never saw "The Matrix" and couldn't give a fuck, so I'm going with >> "Brazil". >> >> Alex in NYC >> >> >> >> On May 4, 2009, at 11:36 AM, folk devil wrote: >> >> >> Which was better; >> a) The Matrix >> b) Brazil >> >> My vote, BRAZIL!!! >> >> Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! 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URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Mon May 4 20:32:16 2009 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 01:32:16 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097294@mr-pants.the-lab.local> I was taking the piss mate. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Alexander Smith Sent: 04 May 2009 23:20 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote You're defending that? Alex in NYC On May 4, 2009, at 4:22 PM, ade wrote: Johnny Mnemonic. Ahem. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Alexander Smith Sent: 04 May 2009 20:13 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote With the arguable exception of "River's Edge," name a single film Keanu Reeves has been in that hasn't sucked a giant one. Alex in NYC On May 4, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Karen Weil wrote: Very good choice, Alex. : ) My feelings about "The Matrix" are pretty similar. k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Alexander Smith To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Never saw "The Matrix" and couldn't give a fuck, so I'm going with "Brazil". Alex in NYC On May 4, 2009, at 11:36 AM, folk devil wrote: Which was better; a) The Matrix b) Brazil My vote, BRAZIL!!! _____ Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. 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URL: From saulomar1 at yahoo.com Mon May 4 20:46:05 2009 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 17:46:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <100089.97153.qm@web110203.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> It's a great film; highly recommended. ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things..] ? 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? ________________________________ From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, May 4, 2009 4:10:36 PM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote I haven?t seen it either, in fact not sure I?ve even heard of it JLet?s see what I can find? ? ________________________________ From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: Tuesday, 5 May 2009 04:11 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote ? *Gasp,* Milinda -- we must get you schooled! " Brazil " is a masterpiece, period. Rent it, please. You will not be sorry. : ) ? k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From:melinda grant To:thegathering mailing list Sent:Monday, May 04, 2009 10:01 AM Subject:Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote ? having never seen-brazil--i say matrix have dvd boxset ;) ? milindafgrant ? ________________________________ From: folk.devil at hotmail.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 08:36:28 -0700 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Which was better; a) The Matrix b) Brazil ? My vote, BRAZIL !!! ? ________________________________ Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. Check it out. ________________________________ Windows Live Messenger just got better. Find out more! ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.18/2096 - Release Date: 05/04/09 17:51:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephen.l at live.com Mon May 4 21:06:54 2009 From: stephen.l at live.com (Stephen Lawrence) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 01:06:54 +0000 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote In-Reply-To: <925E775CDD6E4DEC9F70ED8837BE4241@edweil> References: <925E775CDD6E4DEC9F70ED8837BE4241@edweil> Message-ID: thanks karen ,personality check based on others comments ,but really couldn't give a rats arse From: karen.weil at sddt.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 16:54:24 -0700 Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Well said on the film, Steve. As for your personality, I cannot comment. But enjoy the week. kw the States ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lawrence To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote well said karen ,it's funny ,dark ,romantic ,surreal and good all round entertainment .....then again i am an intense fucker From: karen.weil at sddt.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:10:52 -0700 Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote *Gasp,* Milinda -- we must get you schooled! "Brazil" is a masterpiece, period. Rent it, please. You will not be sorry. : ) k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: melinda grant To: thegathering mailing list Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote having never seen-brazil--i say matrix have dvd boxset ;) milindafgrant From: folk.devil at hotmail.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 08:36:28 -0700 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Which was better; a) The Matrix b) Brazil My vote, BRAZIL!!! Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. Check it out. Windows Live Messenger just got better. Find out more! _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering Surfing the web just got more rewarding. Download the New Internet Explorer 8 _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Beyond Hotmail ? see what else you can do with Windows Live. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665375/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From folk.devil at hotmail.com Mon May 4 21:07:57 2009 From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 18:07:57 -0700 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <02d301c9cd10$6efa7b90$4cef72b0$@com> References: rv.hcvlny.cv.net><003b01c9caa5$98405fa0$0600000a@jo><04a501c9caaf$dbfbf560$93f3e020$@com> <014201c9cabf$3e694360$0600000a@jo> <3B47200781E4412F96CDA18F38A840FF@edweil> <34437.95974.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <02d301c9cd10$6efa7b90$4cef72b0$@com> Message-ID: Yes, Marley was dead. lol! From: dpeace at bigfoot.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 00:31:21 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Was he dead? Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 04 May 2009 22:33 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead We gave a friend's pet rat a viking funeral, a few years back. We made him a little boat, tied the little feller on it, over some kindling, and pushed him out onto the river that went through the park, alight. :) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 13:04:22 -0700 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Btw, hasn't every guy at some point said he wants to have a viking ship funeral with the flames and stuff...? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' From: Karen Weil To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, May 4, 2009 11:20:58 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Nice suggestion, jo -- almost Swiftian in its proposal. However, I doubt anyone would be interested in what would be left of me. I figure the coyotes and vultures can do their job, as nature intended them to. ; ) But I do love your recipe. Bon appetite, k.w. Hotmail? goes with you. Get it on your BlackBerry or iPhone. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage1_052009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From folk.devil at hotmail.com Mon May 4 21:09:50 2009 From: folk.devil at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 18:09:50 -0700 Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: <7502841EF5FF4EA6AF9550F8B9EF6AC0@edweil> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC09728A@mr-pants.the-lab.local> <7502841EF5FF4EA6AF9550F8B9EF6AC0@edweil> Message-ID: C is for Cookie! That's good enough for me! ;) From: karen.weil at sddt.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 16:56:35 -0700 Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Cookie Monster was *the* original anger management patient. If you go as Ernie, be sure to have the unibrow perfected -- and act bipolar while you're at it. Cheers, Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead It's a killer to pass on Cookiemonster, I've always loved the way he goes fucking mental. I'll go as either Bert or Ern - total comedy heroes!!! _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail? has a new way to see what's up with your friends. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/WhatsNew?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_WhatsNew1_052009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From daxford at rogers.com Mon May 4 21:29:15 2009 From: daxford at rogers.com (Dave Axford) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 21:29:15 -0400 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097287@mr-pants.the-lab.local><3415AD7ACCAD4D329018C06070C5950B@dave> <02d801c9cd10$920e47b0$b62ad710$@com> Message-ID: <5890E8F1B36E4B37992C9DE9C6FC4DAE@dave> You have my deepest sympathy. In what capacity? 'Special effects props builder'. Basically, Johnny's upload/download devices and some sensors/transmitters. The problem with the movie was that there were three different stars being considered for the lead, right up to the last minute... Should SONY sign Val Kilmer, then the budget would be "X". If SONY signed Keanu Reeves, then the budget would be "X minus one"... Should they sign Keefer Sutherland, then the budget was going to be "X minus two". So now, there were three different versions of the script, depending on the budget/star... Needless to say, the same amount of crew were scambling to fit any of the three possibilities. I could go on, but I think you get the idea. Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpeace at bigfoot.com Mon May 4 21:30:08 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 02:30:08 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097293@mr-pants.the-lab.local> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097293@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: <032b01c9cd21$076c6950$16453bf0$@com> You need Tena Flex for that. Darren Hungerford, UK -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade Sent: 05 May 2009 00:14 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Playing Battleships with the Reaper for their lives - awesome. But then I pissed myself at Dodgeball last night. "Go Balls Deep!" -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Stephen Robinson Sent: 04 May 2009 22:48 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (t Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey. Note that is not a joke, I honstly thought it was a good comedy. > Johnny Mnemonic. Ahem. > > -----Original Message----- > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Alexander Smith Sent: > 04 May 2009 20:13 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote > > > > With the arguable exception of "River's Edge," name a single film Keanu > Reeves has been in that hasn't sucked a giant one. > > Alex in NYC > > > On May 4, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Karen Weil wrote: _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From daxford at rogers.com Mon May 4 21:38:11 2009 From: daxford at rogers.com (Dave Axford) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 21:38:11 -0400 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC097287@mr-pants.the-lab.local><3415AD7ACCAD4D329018C06070C5950B@dave> <6EB35464D28545DA970A7CB1EE5C85E6@edweil> Message-ID: <32B4F2DAC3AF4985A5A855E55224A98E@dave> you worked on the film, Dave? 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Don?t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage1_052009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From letranger789 at yahoo.com Mon May 4 21:43:45 2009 From: letranger789 at yahoo.com (The Stranger) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 18:43:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] London Pre-show shenanigans Message-ID: <616357.81822.qm@web36701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Fellow Gathering mongers, The sixth is almost here and the show hasn't been cancelled yet!!! Is the Tattershal Castle still the designated meet up pub? What time are people getting there? A friend and I are flying in from New York for the show. As of right now, neither of us are showing symptoms of the swine flu! Does anyone mind if we join the fun?? Does anyone mind if I drink fifty pints of beer in quick succession once I get there??? Cheers, Adam From letranger789 at yahoo.com Mon May 4 21:51:26 2009 From: letranger789 at yahoo.com (The Stranger) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 18:51:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] London Pre-show shenanigans Message-ID: <179643.7484.qm@web36704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Fellow Gathering mongers, The sixth is almost here and the show hasn't been cancelled yet!!! Is the Tattershal Castle still the designated meet up pub? What time are people getting there? A friend and I are flying in from New York for the show. As of right now, neither of us are showing symptoms of the swine flu! Does anyone mind if we join the fun?? Does anyone mind if I drink fifty pints of beer in quick succession once I get there??? Cheers, Adam From saulomar1 at yahoo.com Mon May 4 21:51:42 2009 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 18:51:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote In-Reply-To: <8A7B9332577E49319726F93AC3DC5473@edweil> References: <989E8D57-6937-44EE-8761-FB3F76E15040@earthlink.net> <8A7B9332577E49319726F93AC3DC5473@edweil> Message-ID: <543292.84807.qm@web110211.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> "A Walk In The Clouds" had one memorable line, but that's it. ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things..] ? 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? ________________________________ From: Karen Weil To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, May 4, 2009 1:36:09 PM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Ummmmmm.... "Bill & Ted"? (Or, perhaps not.)? ; ) ? kw San Diego ----- Original Message ----- From: Alexander Smith To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote With the arguable exception of "River's Edge," name a single film Keanu Reeves has been in that hasn't sucked a giant one. Alex in NYC On May 4, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Karen Weil wrote: Very good choice, Alex. : )? My feelings about "The Matrix" are pretty similar. ? ? k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From:?Alexander Smith To:?A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent:?Monday, May 04, 2009 9:51 AM Subject:?Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Never saw "The Matrix" and couldn't give a fuck, so I'm going with "Brazil". Alex in NYC On May 4, 2009, at 11:36 AM, folk devil wrote: Which was better; a) The Matrix b) Brazil ? My vote, BRAZIL!!! ? ________________________________ Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits.?Check it out._______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpeace at bigfoot.com Mon May 4 21:54:35 2009 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 02:54:35 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote In-Reply-To: <100089.97153.qm@web110203.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <100089.97153.qm@web110203.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <035f01c9cd24$713cb350$53b619f0$@com> Top 5 for me. Darren Hungerford, UK From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: 05 May 2009 01:46 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote It's a great film; highly recommended. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things..] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' _____ From: Brendan Quinn To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, May 4, 2009 4:10:36 PM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote I haven?t seen it either, in fact not sure I?ve even heard of it J Let?s see what I can find? _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: Tuesday, 5 May 2009 04:11 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote *Gasp,* Milinda -- we must get you schooled! " Brazil " is a masterpiece, period. Rent it, please. You will not be sorry. : ) k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: melinda grant To: thegathering mailing list Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote having never seen-brazil--i say matrix have dvd boxset ;) milindafgrant _____ From: folk.devil at hotmail.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 08:36:28 -0700 Subject: [kj] (OT) Cast your vote Which was better; a) The Matrix b) Brazil My vote, BRAZIL !!! _____ Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. Check it out. _____ Windows Live Messenger just got better. Find out more! _____ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.18/2096 - Release Date: 05/04/09 17:51:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From saulomar1 at yahoo.com Mon May 4 21:56:19 2009 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 18:56:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] Play dead In-Reply-To: References: rv.hcvlny.cv.net><003b01c9caa5$98405fa0$0600000a@jo><04a501c9caaf$dbfbf560$93f3e020$@com><014201c9cabf$3e694360$0600000a@jo><3B47200781E4412F96CDA18F38A840FF@edweil> <34437.95974.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <93432.40323.qm@web110204.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> >? I acutally like the Hindu funeral pyre ?? You?know the river Ganga is polluted and?sickening?lots of the people who live near it, becuase lots of those corpses are not fully burned and just float down the river rotting.??Wood is too expensive or hard to get for all?to use enough to completely cremate the dead. (the human corpus requires very high amounts of heat to burn) ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things..] ? 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? ________________________________ From: Karen Weil To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, May 4, 2009 2:28:47 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead That's quite dramatic -- I acutally like the Hindu funeral pyre.? ? k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: sade1 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Btw, hasn't every guy?at some point said he wants to have a viking ship funeral with the flames and?stuff...? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things..] ? 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? ________________________________ From: Karen Weil To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Monday, May 4, 2009 11:20:58 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Nice suggestion, jo -- almost Swiftian in its proposal. However, I doubt anyone would be interested in what would be left of me. I figure the coyotes and vultures can do their job, as nature intended them to. ; ) But I do love your recipe. ? Bon appetite, ? k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: jo To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Shan't be needing the undertaker, can't let things go to waste:-) ? I suggest BBQ'd body parts (feel free to bring your own) accompanied by freshly foraged wild mushrooms, cresses and garlic served with spicy, jellied stomach contents (again, feel free to bring your own).? Dessert will be my own take on a Rum? Baba - I called it my 'Sweet Steaming Floater' ? Oh, dear. We're in bigger trouble than I thought.? ; ) ? I'll ready the undertaker ... ? k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren A. Peace To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead Mexican pork. ? Darren Hungerford, UK ? From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: 01 May 2009 23:17 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead ? What's on the menu? ; ) ? kw. ----- Original Message ----- From:jo To:A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent:Friday, May 01, 2009 2:41 PM Subject:Re: [kj] Play dead ? 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