[kj] Play dead

Darren A. Peace dpeace at bigfoot.com
Fri May 1 09:50:12 EDT 2009


WinAmp?

And I was most amused that WMP in the Windows 7 beta ate the first 20 or so
seconds of any mp3 file it found on your network! Classy bit of programming,
that. Still, it could have converted everything to WMA.

Darren
Hungerford, UK

-----Original Message-----
From: Brendan [mailto:bq at soundgardener.co.nz]
Sent: 01 May 2009 13:39
To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the
band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead

At the end of the day I want a little piece of inconspicuous software that
plays media files & makes playlists, and maybe has an equaliser. Something
free, unobtrusive, won't constantly try to wrest my file associations over
to the dark side, install Google fucking toolbar, take 10 mins to install,
loads up the iStore every time it opens, reminding me that the kids are
all listening to Rhianna these days - yay - and sinks its hooks into the
operating system so that if I try to remove it I have to rip half my OS's
brain-stem out, set up a hearrtbeat back to the Deathstar in order to
*update* itself periodically...

In fact I dislike Windows Media Player as well for similar reasons, but it
never tried to steal our files, precious, and make them it's own *growl*


> Heh.

>

> The help was for Stephen; I'm clear that your anti-Apple bias means that

> you'd rather see Air Supply in concert than load up iTunes.

>

> Darren

> Hungerford, UK

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

> On

> Behalf Of Brendan

> Sent: 01 May 2009 12:07

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead

>

> Yeah I know you can do it, I found that setting immediately and enabled

> it, just couldn't believe it started doing it automatically, and one of

> the reasons it pi$$ed me off is that I'd just spent weeks renaming and

> retagging my mp3 files. WEEKS. My OCD wouldn't sit still until I had

> everything in my particular format, band name space hyphen space year

> space hyphen space album name space hypen space track number space hyphen

> space etc. LOL.

>

> Also generally using the thing - my reaction was, to use a current geek

> meme - DO NOT WANT, or FAIL...and performance was pretty $hite too...had a

> single core CPU back then.

>

> Nup. Hated it. I also disliked it because of the iPod hype, I am player

> agnostic, no way do I want to be tied in to a fucking Applie application.

> So typical of that company, try to lock down the customers' choice and

> over-price with marketing hype and branding. Ugh. (And no it's not an

> anti-Apple pro-M$ rant, it's merely an anti-Apple rant...). There was some

> other drama about not being able to easily share your files with friends'

> PCs etc.

>

> Re Nero...I'm lazy with multimedia stuff, more of a gamer / hardware fan,

> never took the time to investigate that. Would be nice to do away with

> Nero actually, I have a rebuild coming up in a month or so so I wll do it

> then. I just assumed it was a good idea to use the software that came with

> the drive, and Nero has always been easy to use. Cheers.

>

>> Edit > Preferences > Advanced >

>>

>>

>>

>> Tick Keep iTunes Music Folder Organised

>>

>> Untick Copy files to iTunes Music Folder if you don’t want duplicates.

>>

>>

>>

>> I have the Copy Files option ticked, so everything is copied to my

>> central

>> library, and I can then manually delete the original file, which could

>> be

>> anywhere on my computer.

>>

>>

>>

>> Oh, and Brendan? Nero? Hope there’s something in that bloatware that you

>> really, really need. I gave up on it at version 5.

>>

>>

>>

>> Otherwise, the free ImgBurn (http://www.imgburn.com/ ) does pretty much

>> everything I need.

>>

>>

>>

>> Darren

>>

>> Hungerford, UK

>>

>>

>>

>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

>> On

>> Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence

>> Sent: 01 May 2009 11:12

>> To: gathering at misera.net

>> Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead

>>

>>

>>

>> you made me laugh about i-tunes ....yeah i hate it also but have to use

>> it

>> to put vinyl and tape into my computer ...i hate the way it duplicates

>> everything meaning i have to delete loads

>>

>>> Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 21:55:33 +1200

>>> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

>>> To: gathering at misera.net

>>> Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead

>>>

>>> Multimedia programs do in a sense fight each other, insofar as the file

>>> associations contention. Windows keeps a list of which programs to use

>>> to

>>> open particular file types...so by default when you double-click that

>>> kind

>>> of file, Windows will know what to do with it (open .doc files with M$

>>> Word for example...).

>>>

>>> Many multimedia apps ask you when you install them if you want to

>>> associate the application with ALL multimedia types (that it is

>>> compatible

>>> with)...such as mp3 / mp4, avi, wmv, flac, playing DVDs etc etc

>>> (there's

>>> loads of formats) and it's easy to overlook this setting when zipping

>>> through the install screens. I recently did a full install of the

>>> software

>>> that came with my DVD burner and it included a flaming media player

>>> (Nero), on top of all the other ones I have...as if I needed another

>>> one

>>> FFS...

>>>

>>> Can become a bit messy after a while as well, once you have several

>>> applications on your PC that aim to do the same thing, some of which

>>> will

>>> attempt to load automatically when your PC starts, automatically

>>> update,

>>> and many of which share core Windows system files & settings(dlls etc).

>>>

>>> Good rule of thumb is to pick a decent one that covers most bases and

>>> ignore the others. You probably don't need Quicktime on a Windows PC

>>> for

>>> example, avi files can be opened in VLC or Win Media Player. (And good

>>> luck if you're brave enough to use iTunes - we hates it precious ;p)

>>>

>>> If you want to change the file associations let me know, or Google it

>>> if

>>> you want, there's multiple ways to do it, pretty standard on Windows

>>> from

>>> 2000 on. Or you can simply re-install the player you want to use and

>>> let

>>> it reclaim the associations.

>>>

>>> The less programs you have on Windows the quicker it goes and less

>>> messy

>>> it gets, generally.

>>>

>>> > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Stephen Lawrence <stephen.l at live.com>

>>> > wrote:

>>> >

>>> >> thanks bo

>>> >> Â to be honest i don't know which version i have ..i'm a bit wary

>>> of

>>> >> downloads and installations ..i was once told that programs

>>> can''fight

>>> >> ''

>>> >> with each other whether that is true i don;t know

>>> >> Â i have vlc and real player and win amp but prefer media player

>>> for

>>> >> the

>>> >> database

>>> >

>>> > Both and, programs cannot as such interfere with eachother, but

>>> codecs

>>> > and dll's can and will at every given chance. This is why i

>>> > recommended smplayer and/or vlc, since they both use their own sets

>>> of

>>> > codecs instead of using (and cluttering) the standard DirectShow set

>>> > that Windows Media Player and virtually every other media player use.

>>> >

>>> > To find the version of nearly any Windows program, click "Help" and

>>> > then "About".

>>> >

>>> > Also, if you already have vlc, you should be able to play WMA and WMV

>>> > with it. Just make sure you have the latest version from

>>> > www.videolan.org and you're all set.

>>> >

>>> >

>>> > b

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