[kj] OT: Obama and Fox

[sade1]

> ..the news reporting was as good as we get in the UK. 


   Most TV news (especially network [ABC, NBC, CBS, etc.] primetime evening news is targeted at 
   older people 60 or older, and has several minutes of medical/pharmaceutical/health-related news. Even 
   the commercials are Pharma-related.  Is it all the same in the UK?


> ..allegedly anti-Obama, what about comdians.....Do they rip the shit out of 

>  Obama too, or have they had to find other material?


   More and more are now making jokes about him; let's just say the fear of doing so is wearing off.

... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   





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From: nicholas fitzpatrick <gasw30 at hotmail.com>
To: gathering at misera.net
Sent: Thu, October 22, 2009 4:16:24 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Obama and Fox

This is the first time in ten years I've created a Gathering thread that's had more than three responses. 
 
I was on holiday in the US on election night, which was cool, staying in a hotel in Burlington, Vermont. I was suprised in a positive way by the TV news in the US. I had been led to believe that US news is very parochial - what with only 15 Americans holding passports and 55% of them thinking China is a small district of Manhattan (joke guys, ok, just a joke) -but I thought the news reporting was as good as we get in the UK. There seemed to be a lot of international coverage, and in terms of Iraq/Afghanastan some coverage was given to non-US troops. Probably this should't be surprising but it was.
 
I binged on a lot of US TV. If anything annoyed me about it, it was that in almost every programme there seemed to be members of the public standing around shouting "boo-ya" a lot and waving at the cameras.
 
IN terms of Fox being allegedly anti-Obama, what about comdians that appear on the likes of chat shows, like SNL (though I don't know if that's Fox). Bush gave them loads of material, but I imagine these comedians are pretty liberal East/West coasters who would back Obama. Do they rip the shit out of Obama too, or have they had to find other material?
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:34:22 -0700
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Obama and Fox



> ..Not Journalists. Unless....


(hey, I use Merriams too!)

Un[for us]/fortunately, there's nothing in that definition concerning quality or integrity - which is why any moron who can master the mechanics of it can get away with getting credetialled as a journalist. Sort of like how Dr. "Joey" Mengele was technically a doctor, those fuckers psycho-logists monitoring the Guantanamo tortures are technically psychologists. 
 
I just emphasize the 'tone' of that definition in order to realign zeh peeple's focus back on the real issues: what we're willing (desirous?) to let pass as "journalism," and, that the real problem is the profession itself, that it should change in order to filter out such Beckian-Dobbsian crap.

(God bless FAIR.orgfor the sake of the few real journalists left.)



 So hey! how 'bout that balloon kid, huh?

 

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From: folk devil <folk.devil at hotmail.com>
To: gathering at misera.net
Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 6:05:32 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Obama and Fox

'Main Entry: jour·nal·ism  
Pronunciation: \ˈjər-nə-ˌli-zəm\
Function: noun 
Date: 1828
1 a : the collection and editing of news for presentation through the media b : the public press c : an academic study concerned with the collection and editing of news or the management of a news medium
2 a : writing designed for publication in a newspaper or magazine b : writing characterized by a direct presentation of facts or description of events without an attempt at interpretation c : writing designed to appeal to current popular taste or public interest'

Not Journalists. Unless News Media now includes myths and lies as fact?
(I don't agree with 2c, more likely to be written by a PR agent, propagandist or starfucker)

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Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:01:08 -0700
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Obama and Fox



> Hannity and Beck are NOT Journalists.  


   Technically (because 'in spirit' they definitely don't 
seem it)... *winces*...*sighs*... they are, according to 
the definitions of both "journalist," and "journalism."  


      
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