[kj] Openers: (Big Black with KJ)

jpwhkj at aol.com jpwhkj at aol.com
Tue Dec 7 03:42:31 EST 2010




Hi Antoni,

Correct, Big Black weren't advertised in advance, otherwise - having heard and really liked Kerosene on Peel - I'd have been waiting for them. As far as I can recall, the other bands did play, and BB were "extra", but maybe just Heist.

When you say that the gig was "pre-BTATS", do you mean prior to the release of the album, or prior to the tour? I can't actually remember whether the tour was September or Novermber (I'm sure you've got it written down somewhere!), but of course they were playing the material from August (Reading Festival) onwards.

I was really looking foward to RLYL at the November gig. I'd heard them on Peel and liked them a lot, but somehow never seen / purchased... and I was a bit disappointed. I'm sure some others here have voiced their likings of them (Brian? Jamie? Mick Head?)...

Cheers,

Jamie






-----Original Message-----
From: pssyche23 <antoni at clara.net>
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 20:31
Subject: Re: [kj] Openers: (Big Black with KJ)



* http://www.songkick.com/concerts/3904911-killing-joke-at-hammersmith-palais/posters/639031 *

An interesting story there Jamie – maybe I saw Big Black too and never ever realised it !!! As per the gig flyer (link above), I’d always assumed I’d seen the band “Joy” as main support ... opening band Heist had played twice with Killing Joke at the Palais in February 1985 ... the September 1986 gig was pre-BTATS ... there was another one at the Hammersmith Palais on 23/11/1986 with Red Lorry Yellow Lorry and the Guana Batz.

Regards, Antoni


From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of jpwhkj at aol.com
Sent: 06 December 2010 19:34
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It was feckin amazing.



At that point (Sept 86 I think) I'd only heard one Big Black song, namely Kerosene, courtesy of John Peel.



I was upstairs at Hammy Palais, biding my time through the support acts. Back then, KJ support acts were uniformly forgettable, so I was expecting quite a tedious wait.



So imagine my surprise when several scrawny, tatty and very intense characters apppeared on stage, and blazed their way through a series of fantastically aggressive tracks. No one around me knew who they were - and nor did I, but I was very fuckin impressed. Then they played their last track, and it was Kerosene, and the penny dropped.



The Joke were incredible as well - the Brighter material really rocked live, and they were playing a blindingly fast version of Requiem on that tour.



Jamie



-----Original Message-----
From: Janean <j at jlancaster.info>
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 14:28
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<<< Big Black (supporting Killing Joke) >>>



Oh Em Gee. As they say. I’m trying to imagine how fucking good that was. Not envious at all…





From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of jpwhkj at aol.com
Sent: 03 December 2010 09:58
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I've seen some great support bands:





Lords of the New Church (supporting the Damned)


Play Dead (supporting Killing Joke)


Big Black (supporting Killing Joke)





...but I've also seen a lot of cack!





-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
CC: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 7:00
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Listen to you lot! ;-)





There are some fucking great local bands here in the UK.


Problem is the default position from the fans is " it's not our band so......."





Some of the "local" Oxford bands did ok I guess. Radiohead......supergrass........watch out for little fish too.








When Kj supported joy Division they would have been seen as a bunch of no hopers by some.





Go to the gig. Have a beer. Open your ears and shut the fuck up....;-)

On 3 Dec 2010, at 06:05, Leigh Newton <angrytomhanks at yahoo.com> wrote:




Chances are, yes, they will all be godawful. All local bands being picked by the local promoters. Guarantee KJ are not hand-picking these bands. If they have any sense at all, they'll be comfortable on their bus or in the backstage area while the local yokels bore us all to tears. I swear to god, I've spent more time in my life waiting for bands to stop playing than anything else.





Leigh





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From: "LONESTYLE at aol.com" <LONESTYLE at aol.com>
To: gathering at misera.net
Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 8:02:00 PM
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And they all suck I gather? ;)





~ LB






In a message dated 12/2/2010 12:53:52 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, kjlist at live.com writes:


US openers are all locals. Interesting the label didn't send anyone, but that costs money. =

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