[kj] (OT) An Absolute Joke

[folk devil]

I don't really go with the Tarpley clip. It just comes off as a nebulous rant, that just goes around saying nothing.
Wikileaks only elaborates on what the <5% of us already know, that we are fed misinformation daily, and they are making it transparent.
Good journalism, to me. Fighting misinformation with actual truthful information. If anything, Tarpley's argument reemphasizes the status quo of an evil other, i.e. Pakistan, Iran.
I personally wouldn't trust any Government, or bank.

Re Clinton, Israel and the Arab 'people', cue Chomsky at around 7minutes 30seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL1-NE6H-M0&feature=related

From: marsboy1 at msn.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 19:01:46 -0500
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) An Absolute Joke








Yeah, I was trying to avoid naming Israel, you know what that'll get you.  And the system always want the US to look bad to maintain the adversarial relationship with the rest of the world.




 


Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 21:59:12 +0000
From: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) An Absolute Joke

A quick flick across recent news headlines reveals several items that make the US, the UK and a great many of their allies look incompetent, spineless or self-aggrandizing. Whatever's going on beyond the scenes- and there may well be a great deal that is- these leaks are clearly not intended to make us or said allies look good.
 
Jim.

--- On Wed, 8/12/10, Matthew Burke <marsboy1 at msn.com> wrote:




I searched for an aggregate of the snippets I've been coming across, this'll have to do, I have to feed and change my son any minute.  It's about 10 minutes of Webster Tarpley, who's always interesting, though I don't always agree with him.  This clip concerns the last info dump and questions about Assange.  Keep in mind I'm not fully convinced one way or the other.


Basically, what I've heard and read is that his funding can be traced to intelligence associated institutions, that nothing he's revealed is ever above 'secret' classification and that he couldn't have gotten his hands on it without a great deal of cooperation, despite the stories of his contacts walking out of high security installations with Lady Gaga CDs packed with info.  


And if you look at what the leaks accomplish, it is always in the interest of the Anglo-American establishment, most notably demonizing Pakistan and Iran.  In the current
 documents you'll also notice that all the allies of said establishment come out unscathed.  The recent leaks also go after the State Department, which could indicate the continuing war the Pentagon is waging against them for primacy in foreign affairs that started in 2001.  The next leaks are supposed to concern banking institutions, which could mean the big boys are going to use the info to knock off competition (if Soros is truly one of the figures behind this, I'd watch to see how heated his fight with the Queen and her pound gets).


Ultimately, it has divided us into two opinions, always the goal, as well as raise question as to whether governments should take over the internet.  And if it is an intel operation, it is of such complexity that I'm never going to fully understand it or be able to explain it.  Just remember it is rare that anything of this magnitude happens that isn't allowed to happen . . . . unless
 Assange is more bulletproof than Kennedy.  


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brGAgrxscOg




From: folk.devil at hotmail.com
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Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 08:09:42 -0800
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I am not sure how Assange could be being used as some form of Machiavellian device. If that is your inference Matt?
 
 


Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 19:26:51 -0800
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
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Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) An Absolute Joke





I haven't heard that one. Do continue.. 
(did he also have russian 
 operatives working beneath him?)
http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/10/20/101710-maxin-anna-chapman.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/08/27/article-1306739-0AF0F455000005DC-986_468x697.jpg 

 




From: Matthew Burke <marsboy1 at msn.com>
To: gathering <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tue, December 7, 2010 5:55:02 PM
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With the circus that went on today, I'm starting to lean heavily in the direction of some opinions I've heard recently.  To wit: Wikileaks is an intelligence operation and Assange is either a participant or a patsy.  









Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 17:12:52 -0800
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) An Absolute Joke





   Close. What I remember hearing (either in channel 7, or 4) is 
that the UFO leaks were to be of USGovt. opinions/findings/etc., 
but not (I don't think) meant to seem J.A. was taking a position 
on UFOs n' stuff.
   What I'm still curious about is who are the Chosen Few, the 100,000 
set to release the cyber-Holy-Of-Holies files that could immediately harm 
the U.S. Are they innocent computers that have been penetrated, secretly 
embedded and programmed ot be hijacked and set loose to spew upon 
JA's command, or are the Chosen Few active participants set to come forth 
in the greatest 
ever "I  am Spartacus!!" moment known to Man? http://flowstate.homestead.com/files/spartacus.gif
 
Julian Assange v. World: http://www.spittinflicks.com/images/spartacus1.jpg
 
'Enquiring minds want to know..'




From: folk devil <folk.devil at hotmail.com>
To: gathering at misera.net
Sent: Tue, December 7, 2010 12:20:13 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) An Absolute Joke



Which news channel? That sounds like another possible attempt to discredit him, to me..
 


From: LONESTYLE at aol.com
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 15:15:59 -0500
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) An Absolute Joke


I heard on the news last night he was going to release documents about UFOs and aliens? Which is going to be a bombshell so they say.
 
~ LB
 

In a message dated 12/7/2010 8:05:44 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, folk.devil at hotmail.com writes:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/06/wikileaks-julian-assange-police
 
"Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks, is expected to appear in a UK court today after his lawyers said he would meet police to discuss a European arrest warrant from Sweden relating to alleged sexual assaults."
 
Do they
 really think people are that stupid? Well, I guess so.
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