[kj] New Topic The war criminal Blair must pay!

[GREG SLAWSON]

Sorry Sade, I must have been mixing up 2 different emails. And yes, I meant competition! One more point about the 'exceptional' issue--

communism doesn't mean that no one could ever be exceptional--in fact it would be (and even was, in the early USSR) encouraged. But they

made the mistake of using purely economic motivations (pay bonuses) (called the Stakanovite system or something). My point is that there are

many other reasons to do your best at something, beyond purely personal economic gain. There have been studies by economists (in the US) that confirm this. And,

as a teacher, I see some teachers who may be considered exceptional, but hey are not motivated by $$ to be so. In fact, all the teachers I know are agaisnt

Obama & Co's plans to bring "merit pay" to teachers who boost test scores the most  (many think it's a scheme to bust teachers unions too). Many teachers

don't even think it makes logical sense...
 


Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:40:00 -0800
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] New Topic The war criminal Blair must pay!







>>> ..were it to succeed and everyone became "exceptional"... how would anyone be exceptional?   

>   ..you're taking the term exceptional is bit too literally!

 
It seems you took the term "everyone" a bit too literally. (Maybe I should've said instead, "everyone enough'?)
 
No one's attacking anyone (much less calling them names), just pointing out ironies and 
incosistencies the world would be better off without. 
 

> Back to the Haiti example .... the medical folks, have been completly exceptional. 

> There has been little or no...  Bill Gates/130 year olds, etc.

 
 That was conflating two seperate points from 2 different people, hence I'm not sure how (or if) that replies to what I wrote. 
Now, if I were the suspicious type i'd say it was a bit of a straw man to shoehorn in that last' sumthin' about the poor suckers jumpin' through hoops - but then again, no one's calling anyone names here...
 

> There has been little or no completion between them,

 
   Do you mean competition, instead of 'completion'?
 
 
 
... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Who has the fun.. 
  ..is it always a man with a gun...? 
    Someone must have told him if you work too hard... you can sweat" 






From: GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com>
To: gathering <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 2:53:47 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] New Topic The war criminal Blair must pay!



I think you're taking the term exceptional is bit too literally! Back to the Haiti example--from what I've been hearing, most of the volunteers
that are down there, esp. the medical folks, have been completly exceptional. There has been little or no completion between them, nor are there any Bill Gates/130 year olds, etc.
It's amazing the hoops a couple of people will jump thru just to attack communism or anything on the left..poor suckers...
 


Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:21:37 -0800
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] New Topic The war criminal Blair must pay!






   Assuming Ultimate Communism would encourage everyone to be "exceptional," were it to succeed and everyone became "exceptional"... how would anyone be exceptional? Exceptional being a relative term, is there some explanation of "exceptional" (as in, in relation to what?) that would still hold? 
   Because if everyone had Bill Gates' money, a philosopher's depth, and the health of a base-jumping 130-year-old twice-reincarnated Himalay Sherpa, no one could possibly be exceptional. 
 
 
... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Who has the fun.. 
  ..is it always a man with a gun...? 
    Someone must have told him if you work too hard... you can sweat" 






From: GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com>
To: gathering <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 10:49:12 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] New Topic The war criminal Blair must pay!



Communism would encourage people to be "exceptional". It says nothing about going over people's needs. And yes, no country has got it
right yet (it's only been about 100 years--a short time by historical standards).
And as for your "it will never work b/c all people care about is $" beliefs, why are thousands flooding into Haiti, mostly unpaid, to help?

 


Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 03:50:01 -0500
From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] New Topic The war criminal Blair must pay!

Right on!

If only we all lived in Imaginary Communist Land (because it seems that no one can ever get it right and communism has never
ever existed) things would be so much better and we'd all be happy, joyful, thoughtless providers to the betterment of man kind. 

Should anyone choose to be exceptional we will just maim them till they are EQUAL with all the others. Should anyone want more than
what is deemed acceptable to them... Ohhhh boy! I pity the fool!

Greg, I do hope that your salary does not go one penny over your needs and that if you ever had or will have a pay raise
you will promptly denounce it and threaten your employer with resignation.

FIGHT THE POWER MUTHAFUCKAS!

At 03:03 PM 2/13/2010, GREG SLAWSON wrote:

Unfortunately the march toward war doen't depend entirely on who's pres or PM. It stems from the competition between nations over markets, 
resources, cheap labor, etc. Obama has already stepped up the Afghan war (where the US wants to build an oil pipeline w/o Taliban interference), and
has not withdrawn troops from Iraq any faster than Bush would have. As long as capitalism exists, WWIII will be on it's way (w/China?)...
 


Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 19:39:38 +0000
From: adrianwason at btinternet.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] New Topic The war criminal Blair must pay!

I dont know how many of the gathering outside the UK have heard about the latest bollocks enquiry about tony & george's ego trip but I found it alarming how much blair mentioned Iran.My motto is attack is the best form of defence but it has to be organised.
 
Can anyone imagine what would have happened if these 2 clowns were left in power. I never ever thought I would say this but thank God america can get rid of it's idiots after their terms.
 
If George & Tony were still in power WW3 would be just around the corner. In the Uk now we have a one eyed grumpy disorganised threatining(to his staff) totally fiscally incompetent person who inherited a good economic base and has totally fucked it up & the USA-who knows.
 
But thank God it's not Cuba otherwise we could have those simpletons in for life.



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