[kj] The war criminal Blair ?

[Karen Weil]

Not all of us are, Concrete. 


k.w.
the States
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  From: Concrete Cookie 
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  its not selective, it's the people of UK who decided to do something with it.

  People in the US are asleep.




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  Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:48:01 -0500
  From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com
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  Subject: Re: [kj] The war criminal Blair ?

  I understood you. :)

  I'm just not a fan of selective indictments.

  At 01:44 PM 2/15/2010, Concrete Cookie wrote:

    Like I said, if it were up to me...

    Two wrongs don't make a right





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    Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:41:41 -0500
    From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com
    To: gathering at misera.net
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    But they did send troops to fight in the war. That ought to be good enough. 

    Can't say I blame em' for the kissing of Uncle Sam's ass when they have Step Daddy Russia right
    next door.

    At 01:30 PM 2/15/2010, Concrete Cookie wrote:

      Frankly, I don't remember president of Poland making the case for war in front of the UN ;)


      Poland gave the CIA secret prisons in exchange for some rusted out ships I think.  Kissing the arse of Uncle Sam. 


      If it were up to me all these f*(*&* would rot in prison.  But since it isn't, I'd be happy if some of them got indicted, and it's not going to happen in the US.


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      Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 03:40:06 -0500

      From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com

      To: gathering at misera.net

      Subject: Re: [kj] The war criminal Blair ?


      Don't forget to include Spain, Australia, Poland, Portugal and Denmark. (And any others that I neglected to mention)


      Off with their heads I say!


      At 01:42 PM 2/14/2010, B. Oliver Sheppard wrote: 
        Tony Blair IS a war criminal. I am with Jaz on this one. (So are Bush, Cheney, Rumsfed, et.al, by the way.)

        That isn't irrational, emotional hyperbole. It's a juridical fact.

        The Nuremberg Principles, established by the US and its allies (England, etc.) laid out clearly what constitutes a war crime.

        For ex.:

        Principle I. Any person who commits an act which constitutes a crime under international law is responsible therefore and liable to punishment.

        Principle II. The fact that internal law does not impose a penalty for an act which constitutes a crime under international law does not relieve the person who committed the act from responsibility under international law.

        Principle III. The fact that a person who committed an act which constitutes a crime under international law acted as Head of State or responsible government official does not relieve him from responsibility under international law.

        The invasion of subsequent horror show in Iraq violated several UN laws. The UN is a treaty of the U.S. and UK and is is int'l law - or , at least, it is suppoosed to be regarded as such Not just invoked when convenient by war hawks in first world countries.

        Also see:



        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Principles


        We could Nuremberg Principles selectively, sat, only to Japan and Germany ca. 1945 - but God forbid they actually apply to our heads of state as well! Blair, Bush, Cheney, and their enablers are all war criminals.

        -Oliver




        Floren Luke wrote: 
           
            You fit the definition of a troll . 
          You made no contribution to the subject, you just name call. 
          You are the troll 
           
           
           
           
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          From: dpeace at bigfoot.com 
          To: gathering at misera.net 
          Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 02:16:54 +0000 
          Subject: Re: [kj] The war criminal Blair ?

          Troll.




          Darren


          Hungerford, UK





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