[kj] The war criminal Blair ?

[The Exorcist]

And they took Coast to Coast off AM radio here in NY.
I am in mourning.

BASTARDS! :(

At 05:13 PM 2/16/2010, Brendan wrote:

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>Sade...and any other ‘conspiracy theorist’ 

>(Bongo!) this is a seminal conspiracy theory 

>video, if you can get over the irritating MC 

>constantly telling everyone to shut up, and 

>focus on the CIA Director’s body language 

>(read: squirm), you’ll get an insight into a 

>bit more of what the CIA has been up to. 

>(Ruppert contends that the guy subsequently lost 

>a guaranteed position as Defence Secretary for 

>his terrible handling of this accusation...)

>

><http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDGviyhZba0>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDGviyhZba0

>

>Mike Ruppert is fascinating to listen to on this 

>topic; if you look him up on youtube he’s gone 

>into the topic in depth...(makes occupying the 

>poppy capital of the world more understandable...)

>

>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net 

>[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1

>Sent: Wednesday, 17 February 2010 8:42 AM

>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>Subject: Re: [kj] The war criminal Blair ?

>

>How about a list of U.S. employees (servants, 

>psychophants, minions, etc.) who were allowed to 

>become enemies or seriously stray off the 

>reservation, whether by design or stupidity.

>

>World Leaders/world players who were

>CIA agents (employed by, "contracted"

>by, trained by or beholden to the CIA):

>

>Ho Chi Minh (Vietnam)

>Manuel Noriega (Panama)

>Stroessner? (Argentina)

>Idi Amin Dada (Uganda)

>Augustus Pinochet (Chile)

>Robert D'Aubuisson (El Salvador)

>Anastasio Somoza (Nicaragua)

>Hamid Karzai (Afghanistan)

>his brother Ahmed Wali (Afghanistan)

>Saddam Hussein (iRaq)

>Osama Bin Laden (Yemen, Sudan, Afghanistan)

>

>Humam Khalil Abu-Mulal al-Balawi (Jordanian doctor in Afghani., 2010)

>

>others employed by/beholden to) by

>other U.S. executive branch Agencies...

>Fidel Castro?? (but 

><http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2009/10/26/1256597828344/Fidel-Castros-sister-Juan-001.jpg>his 

>sister was CIA)

>Papa Doc Duvalier (Haiti)

>Baby Doc Duvalier (Haiti)

>Jaz Coleman (UK, NZ)

>

>... ... ... ... ... ...

>

>[looking at the current state of things..]

>

>'Who has the fun..

>   ..is it always a man with a gun...?

>     Someone must have told him if you work too hard... you can sweat"

>

>

>

>From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>

>Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 1:30:20 PM

>Subject: Re: [kj] The war criminal Blair ?

>Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden were US 

>sponsored nutcases in the first place, I don’t 

>know how anyone in the US can trust their govt 

>in the slightest and I can sympathise with the 

>current unprecedented level of dissatisfaction 

>with govt (Dem or Republican it doesn’t really 

>make any difference). Look out if the economy 

>heads back down again cos Americans are 

>justifiably pretty pissed off with spending 

>trillions to bail out banks, and on wars to 

>suppress problems they’ve paid their govt to 

>lie about and create with their tax dollars for the last few decades.

>

><http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/press.htm>http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/press.htm

>

>

>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net 

>[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1

>Sent: Tuesday, 16 February 2010 8:08 AM

>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>Subject: Re: [kj] The war criminal Blair ?

>

>That - hypothetically - iRaq may have invaded 

>anyway and - hypothetically - would've started a 

>war doesn't deny that the U.S. in fact did go 

>ahead and greenlight Saddam's real, actual 

>invasion. We'll never know, except for what 

>actually did happen and how it happened. And a greenlight is a greenlight.

>

>The original point by Fluke was whether Gulf War 

>1 was legal, so only real actions can be judged, 

>not hypothetical "he-would've-done-so-anyway" 

>suppositions.  The can law only address real, 

>manifest actions and motives, and nothing else.

>So the guilty parties have been proven to be 

>Kuwait, iRaq, and the U.S. It's been established 

>fact almost since GW1 was over and off the media radar.

>

>

>

>

>... ... ... ... ... ...

>

>[looking at the current state of things..]

>

>'Who has the fun..

>   ..is it always a man with a gun...?

>     Someone must have told him if you work too hard... you can sweat"

>

>

>

>From: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>

>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>

>Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 12:27:20 PM

>Subject: Re: [kj] The war criminal Blair ?

>Yeah, 'cos Hussein hung on the words of the US 

>ambassador all the time. You can tell from the 

>way he withdrew his troops from Kuwait when told 

>to and co-operated fully with UN weapons inspectors.

>

>Oh wai-

>

>--- On Mon, 15/2/10, sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> > The First Gulf war was legitimate

>

>    I remember reading that, 

> among<http://chloesplace.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/funny-pictures-improved-yarnball-has-a-prize-inside.jpg> 

> a huge yarnball of issues/smokescreens, the 

> Kuwaitis (w/u.s. wink & nods)  drilled for oil 

> on the iRaq side of the border with 

> slanted-drilling gear on the Kuwaiti side 

> (w/Brit. gear, confirmed by the manufacturer 

> using said gear's serial numbers) - an illegal act of sovereign theft.

>    Then, when Saddam Hussein (after receiving 

> from u.s. $3bil in agri-loans [read, military]) 

> asked the US ambassador Glaspie the U.S. 

> position on his plans to face off w/Kuwait, 

> madame Ambassador (ambassatrix?) said, "the 

> U.S. has no opinion on Arab/Arab conflicts..." 

> Talk about greenlighting a tyrant to do whatever he wants, that was it.

>

>   So, basically, um, "somebody" was being 

> <http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&safe=off&um=1&q=michael+vick&sa=N&start=20&ndsp=20>'Michael 

> Vick' there, baiting both sides in order to get 

> a damn good fight, and a boatoad of ill-gotten gains, out of the whole thing.

>

>We've been living a hoax. someone's got us sussed.

>

>... ... ... ... ... ...

>

>[looking at the current state of things..]

>

>'Who has the fun..

>   ..is it always a man with a gun...?

>     Someone must have told him if you work too hard... you can sweat"

>

>

>

>From: Floren Luke <fluke1 at live.co.uk>

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 12:20:19 AM

>Subject: Re: [kj] The war criminal Blair ?

>

>

>

>The First Gulf war was legitimate , one of the 

>conditions of the ceasefire agreement was that 

>U.N. weapons inspectors can have full access to 

>Iraq anytime they like and they can go where ever they wanted .

>   Saddam refused to allow U.N. weapons 

> inspectors into to some sites in Iraq .

>This contravenes the ceasefire agreement and 

>thus the second Gulf War was legitimate.

>

>

>

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>From: concrete_cookie at hotmail.com

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 16:16:39 -0800

>Subject: Re: [kj] The war criminal Blair ?

>

>He just told you what war crimes Tony Blair committed

>

>a war crime is:

>starting a war based on a lie

>

>

>get it?

>

>

>

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>From: fluke1 at live.co.uk

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 23:19:35 +0000

>Subject: Re: [kj] The war criminal Blair ?

>

>What war crimes did Tony Blair commit ?

>

>A war crime is :

>Dressing up in an enemies uniform

>Killing prisoners

>Not feeding prisoners

>And there are a few other things that constitute a war crime.

>Do tell me why Tony Blair falls into the War criminal  category.

>

>

>

>

>

> > Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 12:42:40 -0600

> > From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net

> > To: gathering at misera.net

> > Subject: Re: [kj] The war criminal Blair ?

> >

> > Tony Blair IS a war criminal. I am with Jaz on this one. (So are Bush,

> > Cheney, Rumsfed, et.al, by the way.)

> >

> > That isn't irrational, emotional hyperbole. It's a juridical fact.

> >

> > The Nuremberg Principles, established by the US and its allies (England,

> > etc.) laid out clearly what constitutes a war crime.

> >

> > For ex.:

> >

> > Principle I. Any person who commits an act which constitutes a crime

> > under international law is responsible therefore and liable to punishment.

> >

> > Principle II. The fact that internal law does not impose a penalty for

> > an act which constitutes a crime under international law does not

> > relieve the person who committed the act from responsibility under

> > international law.

> >

> > Principle III. The fact that a person who committed an act which

> > constitutes a crime under international law acted as Head of State or

> > responsible government official does not relieve him from responsibility

> > under international law.

> >

> > The invasion of subsequent horror show in Iraq violated several UN laws.

> > The UN is a treaty of the U.S. and UK and is is int'l law - or , at

> > least, it is suppoosed to be regarded as such Not just invoked when

> > convenient by war hawks in first world countries.

> >

> > Also see:

> >

> >

> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Principles

> >

> >

> > We could Nuremberg Principles selectively, sat, only to Japan and

> > Germany ca. 1945 - but God forbid they actually apply to our heads of

> > state as well! Blair, Bush, Cheney, and their enablers are all war

> > criminals.

> >

> > -Oliver

> >

> >

> >

> > Floren Luke wrote:

> > >

> > > You fit the definition of a troll .

> > > You made no contribution to the subject, you just name call.

> > > You are the troll

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> > > From: dpeace at bigfoot.com

> > > To: gathering at misera.net

> > > Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 02:16:54 +0000

> > > Subject: Re: [kj] The war criminal Blair ?

> > >

> > > Troll.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Darren

> > >

> > > Hungerford, UK

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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