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>   1. Re: May 27 - The Crofoot Ballroom (Pontiac) (Brendan)

>   2. Re: Austin (GREG SLAWSON)

>   3. Re: May 27 - The Crofoot Ballroom (Pontiac) (jpwhkj at aol.com)

>   4. Re: May 27 - The Crofoot Ballroom (Pontiac)

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> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 16:42:07 +1100

> From: "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

> Subject: Re: [kj] May 27 - The Crofoot Ballroom (Pontiac)

> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'"

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> Fair enough. I'm quite a fan of Night Time as well, along with BTATS,

> Pandemonium and the two self titled it's a fave. I'd settle for seeing 

> them

> full stop...sigh. One day.

>

>

>

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] 

> On

> Behalf Of Alexander Smith

> Sent: Saturday, 20 February 2010 3:03 PM

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] May 27 - The Crofoot Ballroom (Pontiac)

>

>

>

>

>

> I respect the fact that various members of the Gathering have differing

> opinions about NightTime. If anything, it speaks to the versatility of the

> band that they've created such a musically diverse oeuvre, appealing to a

> wide array of different sensibilities.

>

>

>

> Personally speaking, NIGHTTIME is my fave, yeah, so I'm very excited. But 

> to

> Neil's point, I'm looking forward to hearing new music as well. I'd hate 

> for

> Killing Joke to simply become a nostalgia act, crankin' out the oldies for

> the die-hards.

>

>

>

> Alex in NYC

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Brendan wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

> So Alex...Night Time is your favourite album yeah...? Excited?

>

>

>

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] 

> On

> Behalf Of Alex Smith

> Sent: Saturday, 20 February 2010 2:05 AM

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); A list about all

> things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] May 27 - The Crofoot Ballroom (Pontiac)

>

>

>

> Fair point.

>

>

>

> Alex in NYC

>

>

>

>

> -----Original Message----- 

> From: Phillipps Marc

> Sent: Feb 19, 2010 9:29 AM

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

> Subject: Re: [kj] May 27 - The Crofoot Ballroom (Pontiac)

>

>

>

>

>

> Now I have nothing against Youth as a bass player (in fact I think he is

> rather good)

>

>

>

> BUT . .

>

>

>

> Will he be able to handle the Raven lines on Night Time? I have heard him

> mullah LLB more than once

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>  _____

>

>

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] 

> On

> Behalf Of Darren A. Peace

> Sent: 19 February 2010 14:23

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] May 27 - The Crofoot Ballroom (Pontiac)

>

>

>

> I wouldn't. Jaz'd hyperventilate and collapse doing the intro to Tabazan,

> and we'd miss Europe, which is the only NT track I really want to hear 

> live.

>

>

>

> Darren

>

> Hungerford, UK

>

> On 19 Feb 2010, at 13:51, Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>

>

> Myself I'd swap a number of major organs for the chance to see Night Time 

> in

> its entirety. And given that the album is only about 40 minutes long,

> there's plenty of time for a selection from their latest album too...

>

>

>

> Jim.

>

> --- On Fri, 19/2/10, Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:

>

> I really, really hope this isn't what they are going to be doing in 

> Europe.

>

> Good album and everything, but ... zzzzz ... I'd rather hear new material!

>

> n

>

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> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 02:47:39 -0500

> From: GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com>

> Subject: Re: [kj] Austin

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> I think part of it, Oliver, is we're living in a time when there is almost 

> NO spontenaety. Most music is a rehash of a rehash of a rehash,

>

> and the few old-timers that are left seem just that, old (with a few 

> exceptions who can still strike a chord w/audiences, like Stiff Little 

> Fingers, Gang of Four, and maybe the Buzzcocks on a good night). Music in 

> the period from 1976-1985 had so much that was new, weird, and even 

> dangerous/disturbing. Just look at old footage of concerts or tv 

> appearances by early Devo, Clash, Black Flag, Speicals, and even 

> relatively mainstream bands like Talking Heads, and you get a sense that 

> they were

>

> almost from another world. Bands now try to all be louder/harder/crazier 

> than the next, but the tension, originality, passion etc. is clearly 

> missing. For me, few things

>

> can compare to seeing the Joke in a tiny discoteque w/the lights on 

> playing to a few dozen people in Houston TexASS in 1981, or Henry Rollins 

> crawling through broken

>

> glass on the floor wearing only shorts, or Bad Manners dumping buckets of 

> water on an audience of 30--at a large rock club, since the small club 

> they were booked at didn't have a stage large enough to hold the band 

> members-- in Cleveland (both early 80s), or the guitarist from Jason & the 

> Scorchers breaking up fights in the audience w/one had while still playing 

> the guitar w/the other, and countless other shows. Today, music (from rock 

> to country to "r & b") is so passionless, watered down, and 

> ultra-contrived. Even world music from Africa, Middle East, India, etc. is 

> done on synthesizer now instead of traditional instruments. And kids are 

> used to thinking they can experience reality sitting in a chair with their 

> Iphones or whaterver--hell, they don't even buy cd's w/lyrics, cover art, 

> etc. but just download individual songs, thinking that they're really 

> experiencing music! I think those of us who were around when it was real 

> have much higher expectations. If only kids today

> knew that coming home from a show soaked in the sweat of the 80 or so 

> people in the audience was really music, not seeing Kings of Leon, or 

> "cover" bands like Interpole/Bravery etc. an air-conditioned ampitheater!

>

>> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 21:47:45 -0600

>> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net

>> To: gathering at misera.net

>> Subject: Re: [kj] Austin

>>

>> Yeah, it's weird - or not?

>>

>> I often go out expecting something amazing to happen, yet the opposite

>> does. You go home asleep, alone, and have this weird feeling of

>> existential confusion/loneliness.

>>

>> Seeing the The Dicks (live!) and then dancing to Killing Joke next door

>> would probably make any sane person happy. I went away from it all

>> feeling very hollow. Maybe it's me. The Dicks can do no wrong, vis a vis

>> "Rich Daddy": <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDwSqERSSh0>

>>

>> I was so stoked, excited when they played it, being raised by a single

>> mom myself (with no rich daddy, etc.) - it's like one of the great

>> all-time punk classics to me. Like Seeing The Ramones do "Sheena is..."

>> Yet getting shoved around and then ultimately leaving it all feeling

>> like it's actually not worth a hill of beans? Blegh. At least I got to

>> dance to Killing Joke after that, even if it was by myself! :)

>>

>> -0liver

>>

>>

>>

>> Brendan wrote:

>> > Being a smarty...the lyrics are all about Morrissey (or some 3rd 

>> > person)

>> > being cajoled to go out when they don't feel like it, having a 

>> > miserable

>> > time and coming home and feeling worse...or something ;)

>> >

>> > Which is my experience about 80% of the time going to clubs (hence I 

>> > prefer

>> > gigs)

>> >

>> >

>> >

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> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 05:31:40 -0500

> From: jpwhkj at aol.com

> Subject: Re: [kj] May 27 - The Crofoot Ballroom (Pontiac)

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> <grin> fair point.  Hopefully one day the Appeal Court will overturn your 

> conviction and you can experience the live glory of the Joke ;-)

>

> Anyway, back in the day if you went to see KJ, the set list would be about 

> 50% "the aces in the joker pack" (to quote a gig review from way back) and 

> 50% stuff from the most recent album.  That was true up to and including 

> Pandemonium; since then, the latest new material has barely been played. 

> No matter what you think of the albums in question, that's a shame - and I 

> hope we'll hear a load of new songs at the gigs.  Maybe even some tracks 

> that don't make it onto the album...

>

> Jamie (balancing hope with cynicism)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' 

> <gathering at misera.net>

> Sent: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 2:32

> Subject: Re: [kj] May 27 - The Crofoot Ballroom (Pontiac)

>

>

>

> Living in New Zealand / Australia and hearing you spoiled cnuts moan about 

> the Killing Joke setlist is like a prisoner on death row listening to the 

> guards moan about what kind of girls they?re picking up lately.

>

>

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] 

> On Behalf Of Stephen Robinson

> Sent: Saturday, 20 February 2010 12:44 AM

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] May 27 - The Crofoot Ballroom (Pontiac)

>

>

> Beats hearing the Wait, requiem and Wardance for the 76,435 time each.

>

>

>

> Oh, they're the encore you say?

>

>

>

>

> I really, really hope this isn't what they are going to be doing in 

> Europe.

>

> Good album and everything, but ... zzzzz ... I'd rather hear new material!

>

> n

>

>

>

>

> On 19 February 2010 13:02, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

>

>

>

>

> "playing 'Night Time' in its entirety and more"

>

>

>

>

> Wait.......WHAT?

>

>

>

> Alex in NYC

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> On Feb 18, 2010, at 11:53 PM, axl wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

> Killing Joke tickets, concerts and tour dates. Official Ticketmaster site.

>

> http://www.ticketmaster.com/Killing-Joke-tickets/artist/735441

>

>

>

> KILLING JOKE (playing 'Night Time' in its entirety and more) at the 

> Crofoot Ballroom

>

> http://www.thecrofoot.com/events/1022.html

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> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 02:39:50 -0800

> From: <ketracelwhite at hotmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [kj] May 27 - The Crofoot Ballroom (Pontiac)

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> I think they should play 'The Fanatic', 'Pleasures of the Flesh', and 

> 'Four Stations of the Sun'.  I also think that every Gatherer Present 

> should be on clean LSD at if this actually occurs...

>

>

> From: jpwhkj at aol.com

> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 2:31 AM

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] May 27 - The Crofoot Ballroom (Pontiac)

>

>

> <grin> fair point.  Hopefully one day the Appeal Court will overturn your 

> conviction and you can experience the live glory of the Joke ;-)

>

> Anyway, back in the day if you went to see KJ, the set list would be about 

> 50% "the aces in the joker pack" (to quote a gig review from way back) and 

> 50% stuff from the most recent album.  That was true up to and including 

> Pandemonium; since then, the latest new material has barely been played. 

> No matter what you think of the albums in question, that's a shame - and I 

> hope we'll hear a load of new songs at the gigs.  Maybe even some tracks 

> that don't make it onto the album...

>

> Jamie (balancing hope with cynicism)

>

>

>

>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' 

> <gathering at misera.net>

> Sent: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 2:32

> Subject: Re: [kj] May 27 - The Crofoot Ballroom (Pontiac)

>

>

> Living in New Zealand / Australia and hearing you spoiled cnuts moan about 

> the Killing Joke setlist is like a prisoner on death row listening to the 

> guards moan about what kind of girls they?re picking up lately.

>

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] 

> On Behalf Of Stephen Robinson

> Sent: Saturday, 20 February 2010 12:44 AM

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] May 27 - The Crofoot Ballroom (Pontiac)

>

> Beats hearing the Wait, requiem and Wardance for the 76,435 time each.

>

> Oh, they're the encore you say?

>

>

>

> I really, really hope this isn't what they are going to be doing in 

> Europe.

>

> Good album and everything, but ... zzzzz ... I'd rather hear new material!

>

> n

>

>

>

> On 19 February 2010 13:02, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

>

> "playing 'Night Time' in its entirety and more"

>

> Wait.......WHAT?

>

> Alex in NYC

>

>

>

>

> On Feb 18, 2010, at 11:53 PM, axl wrote:

>

>  Killing Joke tickets, concerts and tour dates. Official Ticketmaster 

> site.

>  http://www.ticketmaster.com/Killing-Joke-tickets/artist/735441

>

>  KILLING JOKE (playing 'Night Time' in its entirety and more) at the 

> Crofoot Ballroom

>  http://www.thecrofoot.com/events/1022.html

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